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are just a few examples of what your direct List support enables... It provides for the expensive, commercial-grade Internet connection used on the List. It pays for the regular system hardware and software upgrades enabling the highest performance possible for List services such as the Archive Search Engine, List Browser, and the Web Forums. It pays for over 21 years (yeah, I really said *21* years) worth of on line archive data available for instant search and access. And, it offsets the many hours spent writing, developing, and maintaining the custom applications that power this List Service such as the List Browse, Search Engine, Forums, and Wiki. But most importantly, your List Contribution enables a forum where you and your peers can communicate freely in an environment that is free from moderation, censorship, advertising, commercialism, SPAM, and computer viruses. It is YOUR CONTRIBUTION that directly enables these aspects of Matronics List services. Please support it today with your List Contribution. Its one of the best investments you can make in your Sport! List Contribution Web Site: http://www.matronics.com/contribution or, you can send a personal check to the following address: Matronics / Matt Dralle 581 Jeannie Way Livermore, CA 94550 Thank you for your support! Matt Dralle Email List Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 17, 2011
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Please Support The Lists...
Dear Listers, Just a reminder that November is the Matronics Email List Fund Raiser month. There are some very nice incentive gifts to choose from as well! Your Contributions alone keep these services up and running. Please make your Contribution today at: http://www.matronics.com/contribution or by dropping a personal check in the mail to: Matt Dralle / Matronics 581 Jeannie Way Livermore CA 94550 Thank you! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 19, 2011
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: The Value of a Forum...
If you look forward to checking your List email everyday (and a lot of you have written to say that you do!), then you're probably getting at least $20 or $30 worth of Entertainment from the Lists each year. You'd pay twice that for a subscription to some magazine or even a dinner out. Arn't the Lists worth at least that much to you? Wouldn't it be great if you could pay that same amount and get a well-managed media source free of advertising, SPAM, and viruses? Come to think of it, you do... Won't you take a minute to make your Contribution today and support YOUR Lists? Please make a Contribution today at: http://www.matronics.com/contribution or by dropping a personal check in the mail to: Matt Dralle / Matronics 581 Jeannie Way Livermore CA 94550 Again, I want to say THANK YOU to everyone that has made a Contribution thus far during this year's List Fund Raiser!! These Lists are made possible exclusively through YOUR generosity!! Thank you for your support! Matt Dralle Email List Admin. ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 21, 2011
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Make Sure You're Listed -- List of Contributors Published
Dec 1! Dear Listers, The List of Contributors (LOC) is just around the corner! On December 1st I post a list of everyone that so generously made a Contribution to support the Lists. Its my way of publicly thanking everyone that took a minute to show their appreciation for the Lists. As a number of people have pointed out in their Contribution comments, the Lists are a whole lot more valuable than your typical magazine subscription! Won't you take minute and assure that your name is on the upcoming LOC? Tell others that you appreciate the Lists. Making a Contribution to support the Lists is fast and easy using your Visa, MasterCard, or Paypal account: http://www.matronics.com/contribution Or, by dropping a personal check in the mail to: Matronics / Matt Dralle 581 Jeannie Way Livermore CA 94550 I would like to thank everyone that has so generously made a Contribution thus far during this year's List Fund Raiser! Remember that its YOUR support that keeps these Lists running and improving! Don't forget to include a little comment about how the Lists have helped you! Thank you! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 23, 2011
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Contributions Down By 20%...
Dear Listers, As of today, Contributions to the Matronics List Fund Raiser are lagging behind last year at this time by roughly 20%. I have a Fund Raiser each year simply to cover my operating costs for the Lists. I *do not* accept any advertising income to support the Lists and rely solely on the Contributions of members to keep the expenses paid. I run all of my own servers and they are housed here locally, and the Internet connection is a commercial-grade, T1 connection with public address space. I also maintain a full backup system that does nightly backups of all List-related data so that in the event of a server crash, all of the Lists and the many years of List archive data could be restored onto a new server in a matter of hours. All of this costs a fair amount of money, not to mention a significant amount of my personal time. I have a Fund Raiser each year to cover these costs and I ask that members that feel they receive a benefit from my investments make a modest Contribution each year to support the continued operation and upgrade of these services. If you enjoy the Lists, please make a Contribution today. I also offer some incentive gifts for larger Contribution levels. At the Contribution Web Site, you can use a credit card, Paypal, or personal check to show your support for the continuation of these services: http://www.matronics.com/contribution Or, drop a personal check in the mail to: Matt Dralle / Matronics 581 Jeannie Way Livermore CA 94550 Thank you for your support! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 25, 2011
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Just A Few More Days To Make Your List Contribution...
There is less than a week left in this year's List Fund Raiser and only a few short days to grab one of the great Contribution Gifts available this year. Support is still significantly lagging behind last year at this point but hopefully it will pick up here towards the end. Please remember that it is solely the Contributions of List members that keeps the Lists up and running as there is no commercialism or advertising on the Matronics Lists and Forums. The List Contribution web site is secure, fast, and easy and you can use a credit card, Paypal: http://www.matronics.com/contribution Or, drop a personal check in the mail to: Matt Dralle / Matronics 581 Jeannie Way Livermore CA 94550 I want to thank everyone that has already made a generous contribution to support the Lists! Thank you! Matt Dralle Matronics EMail List and Forum Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 27, 2011
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Please Make A Contribution Today...
Dear Listers, A quick reminder that November is the annual List Fund Raiser and the List of Contributors is quickly approching. The Matronics Lists are 100% member supported and all of the operational costs are provided for by your Contributions during this time of the year. Your personal Contribution makes a big difference and keeps all of the Matronics Email Lists and Forums completely ad-free. Please make your Contribution today to keep these services up and running! http://www.matronics.com/contribution or by dropping a personal check in the mail to: Matt Dralle / Matronics 581 Jeannie Way Livermore CA 94550 Thank you in advance! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List and Forum Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 29, 2011
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Just Two Days Left - Still Way Behind...
Dear Listers, There are just two more days left in this years List Fund Raiser. Over the last few weeks I have received some really nice comments from members on what the Lists have meant to them. I have included some of them below. Please read over the comments and ponder on your own feelings about the Lists and the support and camaraderie you have found here. We are still way behind last year in terms of the number of contributions. I really want to keep providing these services to the homebuilt community, but it take resources. Since there's no advertising budget or deep pockets to keep the operation a float, its solely your generosity during the Fund Raiser that keeps things going. Please make a Contribution today. If you've been putting off showing your support for the Lists, now is the time to do it! Make a contribution with a Credit Card or though PayPal at that Matronics Contribution web site: http://www.matronics.com/contribution Or, drop a check in the mail: Matronics / Matt Dralle 581 Jeannie Way Livermore, CA 94550 Thank you in advance for your support! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ==================== A Few List Member Comments ===================== I get a lot of useful information and satisfaction from belonging to your groups. Somehow you foster a great sense of community without the baggage that accompanies other lists. Dave S. We do appreciate you running the lists spam and advertising free. Jeff P. I am celebrating my first flight day and you and the lists deserve a thanks since without it my build would have taken twice as long. Chris L. I enjoy the list. Have my morning coffee with it! Buddy M. Your lists are the best investment of my time and money, bar none, when it comes to interfacing with my fellow amateur builders. Owen B. Keep it going!! Thanks for taking over. Wallace J. I enjoy the Pietenpol List a lot. Malcolm Z. Thanks for your great site! As a new CJ-6 owner, your web site is an invaluable resource. Ken B. Great informational source. Fred S. Thanks for doing this! Lance G. Thank you for the service i do enjoy the many hours I use on line with the banter/ serious technical items. Noel G. Thanks for the years of builder support. Roy H. Great forum! Roger C. Thank you VERY MUCH, Matt, for carrying on with this great service. The "Europa" community really appreciates it. All the best, Svein - now celebrating 10 years as a subscriber, I think! Svein J. Matt, I'm building a much nicer and safer airplane because of your efforts. Robert D. 21 years for you 9 years for me on the Zenith lists. Could not imagine building and flying without Matronics. Brian U. Thanks for ALL the hard work and time you put into maintaining these forums. As an EAA Tech counselor I recommend them often. Paul M. This Pietenpol list is a huge part of the motivation that keeps me working on my project. This has been a great place for meeting like minded folks and getting help for the difficult parts. Thomas S. Thanks for the excellent service Matt. Frank S. Matt, I'm a Sonex building, but I have to say that the Piet group is without a doubt the most interesting. Ken M. I can't tell you how much I appreciate the Piet List. This is one of my sanity lifelines! Daniel H. Your site has provided us over the years with excellent connections to others for advice. Good job! Bob M. Kolb List is my #1 source! Henry V. Matt, you do a great job with this site. I've been with it since the beginning! John M. I am very grateful for all of your excellent work on the List. Arthur L. Thank you for the service you provide us all! Nicholas C. ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 30, 2011
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: [Please Read] - Last Official Day of List Fund Raiser!
Dear Listers, Its November 30th and that means a couple of things. Its my birthday again, 48 of them, in fact! But it also means that its that last official day of the Matronics Email List Fund Raiser! If you been jones'n over one of those really nice incentive gifts now is the time to jump on one!! If you've been meaning to make a Contribution this month but have been putting it off for some reason, NOW is the time! I will be posting the List of Contributors in a few days, so you'll probably want to be known as a person that supported the Lists! I want to thank everyone that has so generously made a Contribution this year in support of our Lists. It is your generosity that keeps this operation running and I don't ever forget it. Hopefully everyone feels the same. Below are a few more of the nice comments from Listers I've received this year. Please read them over and see if you don't agree. The List Contribution Web Site is fast and easy. Please support our habit by making your Contribution right now: http://www.matronics.com/contribution Or, by dropping a personal check in the mail to: Matt Dralle / Matronics 581 Jeannie Way Livermore CA 94550 Thank you to all in advance! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ==================== A Few More List Member Comments ===================== I never would have ended up with the great flying airplane I have without the help of people on the Pietenpol list. Thanks for giving us the medium to communicate our questions, tips and suggestions. Matt P. Thanks for the hard work and maintaining the site commercial free. Good luck for the future and this site has been a source of great friendship. Peter B. It is a great resource. Jim G. Thanks so much for your continuing support of the homebuilt community. Gerald A. You are doing an outstanding job running the list's. Keep it going. Bill V. Thanks for keeping this valuable information source going. Best of all the forums. George A. Another Great year on the RV-List! Thomas E. Still the best source of information (& opinion) for builders on a wide range of issues. Martin H. Matt, thanks for hosting and maintaining the lists! Rumen D. It is a great resource. Bryan R. Thanks for your continuing interest in Van's RV8 kitplanes. Peter C. I'm no longer building or flying but like to keep in touch with the current generation of builders. Best wishes to a great list system. Gerry C. A great list that is most useful for builders. Graham H. Thanks for this wonderful tool! Ralph C. Thanks for a great service to the experimental aviation community. Douglas D. Great topics and loads of useful info keep the subject matter relevant. George H. Thanks for keeping this going. Richard R. Great facility and well managed. Victor F. Thanks for a great service. John D. Thank you for you time and efforts they have made Aviation a better place for everyone. Jim W. I still enjoy getting the list in the morning. Don M. You provide a great resource. David M. You have probably saved a few necks over the years. Robert F. Thank you for being there. Benjamin B. You perform a great service. Bruce M. Thank you for providing this invaluable resource. William D. ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Dec 04, 2011
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Hardware Failure - Matronics Web Servers Currently Offline
failure and is currently not available. Replacement hardware has been ordered and should arrive on Tuesday 12/6/2011. All services should be restored shortly there after. During the outage, the Matronics Forums, Wiki, and other web-based List services will NOT be available. However, during the outage, all normal EMAIL based sevices WILL be available so you may continue to post messages to the various lists without an issue. I am so sorry for any inconvenience this web server outage has caused... Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Dec 07, 2011
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Matronics Web Services Restored!
Dear Listers, web services have been fully restored including the Web Forums, List Browse, Archive Search, Wiki, and AeroElectric web sites. It was quite an ordeal getting the replacement boards for the server, but things went back together tonight and are up and running nicely. The first company I ordered the boards from originally called me a day later to say that, whoops, they really didn't have them in stock after all... Fortunately, I was able to locate some through a different source and had then over-nighted and they arrived today. Thank you for your patience and consideration though the whole thing! The List Contribution web site is also back on line for those wishing to make a donation to the effort: http://www.matronics.com/contribution Best regards, Matt Dralle Matronics List Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Dec 19, 2011
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: 2011 List of Contributors
Dear Listers, The 2011 Matronics Email List and Forum Fund Raiser officially ended a couple of weeks ago and its time that I publish this year's List of Contributors. Its the people on this list that directly make the Email Lists and Forums possible. Their generous contributions keep the servers and Internet connection up and running! You can still show your support this year and pick up a great gift at the same time. The Contribution Web Site is fast, easy, and secure: http://www.matronics.com/contribution Or, by dropping a personal check in the mail to: Matt Dralle / Matronics 581 Jeannie Way Livermore CA 94550 I also want to thank Bob, Jon, and Andy for their generous support through the supply of great gifts this year!! These guys have some great products and I encourage you to visit their respective web sites: Bob Nucklolls - AeroElectric - http://www.aeroelectric.com Jon Croke - HomebuiltHELP - http://www.homebuilthelp.com Andy Gold - The Builder's Bookstore - http://www.buildersbooks.com And finally, I'm proud to present The 2011 Fund Raiser List of Contributors: http://www.matronics.com/loc/2011.html Thanks again to everyone that made a Contribution this year!! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List and Forum Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Scratch build =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=93?= Longerons
From: "dcstrng" <dcstrng1213(at)yahoo.com>
Date: Dec 25, 2011
Please pardon the naivet of a first-timer Using the holidays to pour over my newly arrived I note that the aft-fuselage longerons do not appear to be the garden variety 6061-T6 L-extrusions of some other Zenith designs, but a unique stylistic variant. As attractive as the rounded edges and flush-inset extrusion is, does anyone know of a commonly available alternative? I have nothing against paying the Zenith price as it seems modest enough, but have been around government procurement far too long to be comfortable with sole-source contracting I take the thickness to be nominally 0.050-0.075, but an L that long is far too long to simply gin up in any bending brake I can afford What are the plans/scratch builders doing? -------- -- Larry Virginia, USA Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=361641#361641 ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Larry McFarland" <larrycmcfarland(at)gmail.com>
Subject: ?Q?RE:_Zenith750-List:_Scratch_buil?= =?UTF-8?Q?d_=C3=A2=82=AC=9C_Longerons?
Date: Dec 25, 2011
Larry, Buy the things you cannot bend or process and make the ones you can. Zenith will work with you as well as anyone would. They are straight up people and they do want you to succeed. Larry McFarland 601HDS (scratch build) at www.macsmachine.com -----Original Message----- From: owner-zenith750-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-zenith750-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of dcstrng Sent: Sunday, December 25, 2011 9:12 AM Subject: Zenith750-List: Scratch build Longerons Please pardon the naivet of a first-timer Using the holidays to pour over my newly arrived I note that the aft-fuselage longerons do not appear to be the garden variety 6061-T6 L-extrusions of some other Zenith designs, but a unique stylistic variant. As attractive as the rounded edges and flush-inset extrusion is, does anyone know of a commonly available alternative? I have nothing against paying the Zenith price as it seems modest enough, but have been around government procurement far too long to be comfortable with sole-source contracting I take the thickness to be nominally 0.050-0.075, but an L that long is far too long to simply gin up in any bending brake I can afford What are the plans/scratch builders doing? -------- -- Larry Virginia, USA Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=361641#361641 ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Scratch build =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=93?= Longerons
From: "dcstrng" <dcstrng1213(at)yahoo.com>
Date: Dec 25, 2011
Thanks Larry, thats doubtless what Ill do then am hoping to take their builders workshop in March, since Im planning to be nearby anyway, cuz Im going that way to pick up the makins of my engine (Corvair) and some other parts, I may as well as pick up those unique extrusions By the way, Ive learned a lot on your great website lots of info there many homebuilders books have far less -------- -- Larry Virginia, USA Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=361651#361651 ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Scratch build =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=C3=A2=82=AC=9C?= Longerons
From: "dcstrng" <dcstrng1213(at)yahoo.com>
Date: Dec 25, 2011
Thanks Larry, thats doubtless what Ill do then am hoping to take their builders workshop in March, so since Ill be nearby anyway, cuz Im going that way to pick up the makins of my engine (Corvair) and some other parts, I may as well as pick up those unique extrusions By the way, Ive learned a lot on your great website lots of info there many homebuilders books have far less -------- -- Larry Virginia, USA Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=361652#361652 ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "George Race" <mykitairplane(at)mrrace.com>
Subject: My Monthly Commercial: Wing Trailing Edge Access Panel
Date: Dec 27, 2011
Hi Gang: Hope everyone has had a great Holiday Season. I have added another new item for the CH-750. Need to remove your wings from the 750? Make it easy with this wing root, trailing edge access panel which allows you to disconnect fuel and electrical lines from the fuselage and take off the wing. Could not be any easier than this. See details at http://www.mrrace.com/Products. Forth item down in the list. Thanks, George ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jan 20, 2012
Subject: Re: Zenith750-List Digest: 0 Msgs - 01/19/12
From: Curtis Jaussi <cjaussi(at)gmail.com>
Hi all. I have been watching this list for a couple of weeks now and have seen no posts. I also monitor the Europa list and there is a lot of traffic on it. I am curious if anybody uses the Zenith 750 list. On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 12:59 AM, Zenith750-List Digest Server wrote: > * > > ================================================= > Online Versions of Today's List Digest Archive > ================================================= > > Today's complete Zenith750-List Digest can also be found in either of the > two Web Links listed below. The .html file includes the Digest formatted > in HTML for viewing with a web browser and features Hyperlinked Indexes > and Message Navigation. The .txt file includes the plain ASCII version > of the Zenith750-List Digest and can be viewed with a generic text editor > such as Notepad or with a web browser. > > HTML Version: > > http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=html&Chapter 12-01-19&Archive=Zenith750 > > Text Version: > > http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=txt&Chapter 12-01-19&Archive=Zenith750 > > > =============================================== > EMail Version of Today's List Digest Archive > =============================================== > > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > Zenith750-List Digest Archive > --- > Total Messages Posted Thu 01/19/12: 0 > ---------------------------------------------------------- > > > Today's Message Index: > ---------------------- > > ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Zenith750-List Digest: 0 Msgs - 01/19/12
From: Jeffrey Roberts <jeff(at)rmmm.net>
Date: Jan 20, 2012
Like u I monitor this list and belong to the Europa list as I have built one. It seems most 750'ers use the Zenith list on their site. Jeff Sent from my mobile device. On Jan 20, 2012, at 8:15 AM, Curtis Jaussi wrote: > > Hi all. I have been watching this list for a couple of weeks now and > have seen no posts. I also monitor the Europa list and there is a lot > of traffic on it. I am curious if anybody uses the Zenith 750 list. > > On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 12:59 AM, Zenith750-List Digest Server > wrote: >> * >> >> ================================================= >> Online Versions of Today's List Digest Archive >> ================================================= >> >> Today's complete Zenith750-List Digest can also be found in either of the >> two Web Links listed below. The .html file includes the Digest formatted >> in HTML for viewing with a web browser and features Hyperlinked Indexes >> and Message Navigation. The .txt file includes the plain ASCII version >> of the Zenith750-List Digest and can be viewed with a generic text editor >> such as Notepad or with a web browser. >> >> HTML Version: >> >> http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=html&Chapter 12-01-19&Archive=Zenith750 >> >> Text Version: >> >> http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=txt&Chapter 12-01-19&Archive=Zenith750 >> >> >> =============================================== >> EMail Version of Today's List Digest Archive >> =============================================== >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------- >> Zenith750-List Digest Archive >> --- >> Total Messages Posted Thu 01/19/12: 0 >> ---------------------------------------------------------- >> >> >> Today's Message Index: >> ---------------------- >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________
From: Jeffrey Roberts <jeff(at)rmmm.net>
Subject: 750 For Sale
Date: Jan 20, 2012
Hi All, I have had a medical issue come up and after some good thought I have decided it would be best for me and mu wife to place my 750 Kit up for sale. Tough decision as this has been a great project for the little time I've had it. The rudder and horizontal stab are complete. The fuselage is almost complete. This is a complete airframe kit. I also have the Home Built videos to go with it. This was to be my second aircraft build as my first was a Europa. I am located in middle TN. If anyone is interested you can reach me at. jeff(at)rmmm.net Regards, Jeff Roberts ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Terry Capps" <tcapps(at)plrairport.com>
Subject: Hand Controls
Date: Feb 02, 2012
Would like to know if anyone has built any handicap accessible hand controls for the Zenith 701 / 750 / 801? Terry M. Capps Office: 205/338-9456 Office Email: tcapps(at)plrairport.com Cell: 205/473-4139 Cell Email: breezyflyer(at)gmail.com ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "David Teter" <woodnut(at)truetechsys.com>
Subject: Re: Hand Controls
Date: Feb 02, 2012
Terry, I've never done it on a Zenith but I did a handicap accessible conversion in a Titan Tornado S. The process wouldn't be that different. I don't know what the handicap is. If the pilot is wheel chair bound, entry and exit from any of the Zenith line would be a challange. My good friend who I did the conversion for is a paraplegic, paralized from the sternum down. The Titan is low enough to the ground that his entrance and exit is easy for him to accomplish. As tall as the 701/750/801 are, I see this as being a much greater challange the control reconfiguration. If I can help in any way, just let me know. Blessings, David Teter EAA Technical Counselor ----- Original Message ----- From: Terry Capps To: zenith750-list(at)matronics.com Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2012 11:01 AM Subject: Zenith750-List: Hand Controls Would like to know if anyone has built any handicap accessible hand controls for the Zenith 701 / 750 / 801? Terry M. Capps Office: 205/338-9456 Office Email: tcapps(at)plrairport.com Cell: 205/473-4139 Cell Email: breezyflyer(at)gmail.com ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Hand Controls
From: "NikkoBelik" <apryldubosea(at)gmail.com>
Date: Feb 12, 2012
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From: "Robert Pelland" <robert.pelland(at)cgocable.ca>
Subject: Re: Hand Controls
Date: Feb 12, 2012
WILL SOME BODY PLEASE TELL ME WHAT THIS F'NN BULLSHIT IS ONCE AGAIN. IF YOU ARE GETTING YOUR E-MAIL'S HACKED ( IT'S NOT AN EXCUSE ) , FOR GOD'S SAKE, PURCHASE AN ANTI VIRUS THAT WORKS ----- Original Message ----- From: "NikkoBelik" <apryldubosea(at)gmail.com> Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2012 7:30 PM Subject: Zenith750-List: Re: Hand Controls > > > > My generic viagra (http://viagrasuper-active.com/) arrived yesterday. It > is a magic! I had an unforgettable night. I am lucky that I ordered a big > package of it. It will last for long. I just cannot express my feelings, I > am overwhelmed. clomid (http://clomidgeneric.com/) works in me like no > other remedy for erection. You saved my life, guys! > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=366161#366161 > > > ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Curt Thompson" <charlievictor102(at)hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Hand Controls
Date: Feb 12, 2012
Again, what makes you think his email was hacked. Anyone (even me) could spoof my email to make it look like it came from you. There is no anti-virus that you could run on your computer that would keep me from doing that. Sorry, it is the nature of email. Curt -----Original Message----- From: owner-zenith750-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-zenith750-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Robert Pelland Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2012 7:40 PM Subject: Re: Zenith750-List: Re: Hand Controls --> WILL SOME BODY PLEASE TELL ME WHAT THIS F'NN BULLSHIT IS ONCE AGAIN. IF YOU ARE GETTING YOUR E-MAIL'S HACKED ( IT'S NOT AN EXCUSE ) , FOR GOD'S SAKE, PURCHASE AN ANTI VIRUS THAT WORKS ----- Original Message ----- From: "NikkoBelik" <apryldubosea(at)gmail.com> Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2012 7:30 PM Subject: Zenith750-List: Re: Hand Controls > > > > My generic viagra (http://viagrasuper-active.com/) arrived yesterday. It > is a magic! I had an unforgettable night. I am lucky that I ordered a big > package of it. It will last for long. I just cannot express my feelings, I > am overwhelmed. clomid (http://clomidgeneric.com/) works in me like no > other remedy for erection. You saved my life, guys! > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=366161#366161 > > > ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Feb 12, 2012
From: KM Heide CPO/FAAOP <kmheidecpo(at)yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Hand Controls
Matt, - It appears spam filter is not catching this solitication! Can you please re move "NikkoBelik" from this list. Please keep him off the list until he purchases antivirus softwear! -KMHeide --- On Sun, 2/12/12, Robert Pelland wrote: From: Robert Pelland <robert.pelland(at)cgocable.ca> Subject: Re: Zenith750-List: Re: Hand Controls Date: Sunday, February 12, 2012, 9:39 PM able.ca> WILL SOME BODY PLEASE TELL ME WHAT THIS F'NN BULLSHIT IS ONCE AGAIN. IF YOU ARE GETTING YOUR E-MAIL'S HACKED ( IT'S NOT AN EXCUSE ) , FOR GOD'S SAKE, PURCHASE AN ANTI VIRUS THAT WORKS ----- Original Message ----- From: "NikkoBelik" <apryldubosea(at)gmail.com> Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2012 7:30 PM Subject: Zenith750-List: Re: Hand Controls m> > > > My generic viagra (http://viagrasuper-active.com/) arrived yesterday. It is a magic! I had an unforgettable night. I am lucky that I ordered a big p ackage of it. It will last for long. I just cannot express my feelings, I a m overwhelmed. clomid (http://clomidgeneric.com/) works in me like no other remedy for erection. You saved my life, guys! > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=366161#366161 > > > > > > > > > > le, List Admin. ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Feb 12, 2012
From: KM Heide CPO/FAAOP <kmheidecpo(at)yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Hand Controls
Curt, - Very true. Most often you don't know the viral is using your email lists to send attached solitation until others advise you to run a better anti spy softwear. Understand Robert's frustration, but the best way is to remove hi m until he can debug his sytem! Surly, he is getting these emails and knows the problem exists!- -KMHeide --- On Sun, 2/12/12, Curt Thompson wrote: From: Curt Thompson <charlievictor102(at)hotmail.com> Subject: RE: Zenith750-List: Re: Hand Controls Date: Sunday, February 12, 2012, 10:01 PM mail.com> Again, what makes you think his email was hacked.- Anyone (even me) could spoof my email to make it look like it came from you.- There is no anti-virus that you could run on your computer that would keep me from doin g that.- Sorry, it is the nature of email. Curt -----Original Message----- From: owner-zenith750-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-zenith750-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Robert Pelland Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2012 7:40 PM Subject: Re: Zenith750-List: Re: Hand Controls --> WILL SOME BODY PLEASE TELL ME WHAT THIS F'NN BULLSHIT IS ONCE AGAIN. IF YOU ARE GETTING YOUR E-MAIL'S HACKED ( IT'S NOT AN EXCUSE ) , FOR GOD'S SAKE, PURCHASE AN ANTI VIRUS THAT WORKS ----- Original Message ----- From: "NikkoBelik" <apryldubosea(at)gmail.com> Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2012 7:30 PM Subject: Zenith750-List: Re: Hand Controls > > > > My generic viagra (http://viagrasuper-active.com/) arrived yesterday. It > is a magic! I had an unforgettable night. I am lucky that I ordered a big > package of it. It will last for long. I just cannot express my feelings, I > am overwhelmed. clomid (http://clomidgeneric.com/) works in me like no > other remedy for erection. You saved my life, guys! > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=366161#366161 > > > le, List Admin. ________________________________________________________________________________
From: Jeffrey Roberts <JEFF(at)rmmm.net>
Subject: 750 Kit For Sale
Date: Feb 14, 2012
Zenith 750 kit FOR SALE by second time perfectionist builder. Partially completed with Horizontal stab, rudder and most of the fuselage complete. Due to a medical issue and relocation I=92m selling my complete 750 kit. This is the 2nd generation reinforced kit only 7 months old. Includes, finishing kit, tool kit, powder coated steel parts, VG=92s for elevator, long range wing tank, & nav / strobe led lights. Over $23K and 400 hours invested. Will be sold in 30 days to best offer over 17K. Email Jeff(at)rmmm.net or call TN 615-355-7575. Pictures available upon request. ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Introducing Aircraft Specialty
From: Steve T <aircraftspecialty(at)gmail.com>
Date: Feb 23, 2012
Good evening everyone. My name is Steve, and I am an experimental aircraft b uilder in Wisconsin. We just finished an RV-10, and previously I have compl eted a Challenger Amphib and about half a Murphy Moose. I have been involve d in different aspects of aviation for my entire life, and have a passion fo r working on airplanes. It was only natural that my passion would eventuall y turn into a business, and I am now officially announcing the start of Airc raft Specialty LLC. We are working toward being a one stop shop for all you r aviation needs. Right now we carry multiple product lines including: Siou x Tools, Lightspeed Headsets, Clecos and Accessories, and Tungsten Bucking B ars. In addition, we do custom hydraulic fand fuel hose assemblies (with an online calculator for automatic price quoting.), and are going to be adding a full CNC machine shop in the next several months. Our website is www.aircraftspecialty.com Our Custom Hose website iswww.kitplanehoses.com I'd love it if you would take a look and feel free to forward suggestions an d comments on what product lines you would be interested in seeing in the fu ture. Also, please feel free to let your friends know about our site. I un derstand the value of customer service, and feel that it will help different iate us. Having been around aviation for most of my life, I have made some g reat friendships and learned a great deal. My goal is to make sure all of o ur customers are 110% satisfied, and I will do whatever it takes to make sur e that you are. Thanks again, and I look forward to doing business with you in the future. Sincerely, Steve Aircraft Specialty LLC Sent from my iPhone ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Mar 30, 2012
From: rayj <raymondj(at)frontiernet.net>
Subject: Drill speed choice
Greetings listers, I've been lurking for a number of years and am about to order the kit for a 750. I'm trying to decide which drill to buy. I have always heard that faster is better so I'm looking at a 6000 rpm drill. Is there a down side to turning the bit that fast? Thanks in advance for any advice. -- Raymond Julian Kettle River, MN "And you know that I could have me a million more friends, and all I'd have to lose is my point of view." - John Prine ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Mar 30, 2012
From: rayj <raymondj(at)frontiernet.net>
Subject: Re: Drill speed choice
I should have done more research before I posted my question. I found a nice page with some very useful info. It answered my question in nothing flat. Hope someone else will find it useful. > http://www.littlemachineshop.com/Reference/CuttingSpeeds.php#Drilling The answer to my question is that I can use the 6000 rpm up to a 1/4" bit diameter (which is the chuck size) without exceeding the recommend sf/m for 6061-t6. Raymond Julian Kettle River, MN "And you know that I could have me a million more friends, and all I'd have to lose is my point of view." - John Prine On 03/30/2012 04:38 PM, rayj wrote: > > Greetings listers, > > I've been lurking for a number of years and am about to order the kit > for a 750. I'm trying to decide which drill to buy. I have always heard > that faster is better so I'm looking at a 6000 rpm drill. Is there a > down side to turning the bit that fast? > > Thanks in advance for any advice. ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "rv9jim(at)juno.com" <rv9jim(at)Juno.com>
Date: Mar 31, 2012
Subject: Re: Drill speed choice
Actually I find that a slow to moderate speed with the #40 and #30 drill s works best. Plus, the bits stay sharp longer. Definitly have several of the #40 and #30 bits. Four of each will last through the build. Tw o of a #20 works nice for the "A-5" rivits. Plus having one each of the longer 6" or 12" bits of the #30 and #40 are necessary in the tight pla ces. Having a good battery powered drill with at least one extra batter y is necessary. Air drills use a LOT of air. But then again, you need a "Harbor Freight" air powered pop rivit setting tool. You do not want to do the bird by hand squezer. Getting a spare manual poop rivit tool is necessary just to get the tips. The flat tips are modified to conca ve. This is done using the "Dremel" tool. Get the conical stone tips a nd use them to create the concave tips. That is the cheep way. The dre mel tool with many #60 grit sanding drums is necessary. Get the simple single speed version. There are some other tools that are the same func tion as Dremel. By the way, create a piece of 2 x 4 about 12" long that has holes in the large surface side, Drill a hole for each drill bit in groups with a good 1-5" between each size. Keeps you from putting them down and loosing them----. More things if you want. I am aproaching the end of my build of the 750. I have some pic's on the Zenith web sit e under "Jim Nelson". There are some highly recomended changes for peac e of mind (safety) that I recomend. Pic's on the mods and others on my own collection of pic's. IF you want more info, e-mail me at RV9Jim@Jun o.com and I will help you any way I can to build a safe and fun aircraf t. ---------- Original Message ---------- From: rayj <raymondj(at)frontiernet.net> Subject: Zenith750-List: Drill speed choice Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2012 16:38:29 -0500 Greetings listers, I've been lurking for a number of years and am about to order the kit for a 750. I'm trying to decide which drill to buy. I have always heard that faster is better so I'm looking at a 6000 rpm drill. Is there a down side to turning the bit that fast? Thanks in advance for any advice. -- Raymond Julian Kettle River, MN "And you know that I could have me a million more friends, and all I'd have to lose is my point of view." - John Prine ======================== =========== ======================== =========== ======================== =========== ======================== =========== ____________________________________________________________ 53 Year Old Mom Looks 33 The Stunning Results of Her Wrinkle Trick Has Botox Doctors Worried http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4f7668daaa0f532a0098st01duc ________________________________________________________________________________
From: Carlos Sa <carlossa52(at)gmail.com>
Date: Jun 10, 2012
Subject: upper bearing
Hello, all I am working on the (CH601-HD) firewall, and I am doing some changes based on the XL and the 750 firewall. The addition of the plastic upper bearing is causing me a bit of concern. In my case, the bearing interferes with rivets placed through 6F10-2 (the original CH601-HD upper bearing) and 6F8-2 (firewall stiffener). These parts can be sen on page 11 of this document: http://www.zenithair.com/pdf-doc/601-firewall-gear-rib.pdf I am using UHDMW (or some such mix of letters) 3/8" thick. I cut notches to clear the rivets. What is bugging me is that I could not find any comments about this interference, so maybe I am doing something incredibly wrong (I am not content with doing anything just "credibly" wrong). My "notched" upper bearing can be seen here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/54366879@N06/7359287022/ These notches might be weakening the part to a point where it will easily brake and be ineffective, reason why I am planning on a duplicate (no notches) installed on top of it. Comments, anyone? Carlos CH601-HD http://www.zenith.aero/photo/img-6037 ________________________________________________________________________________
From: Carlos Sa <carlossa52(at)gmail.com>
Date: Jun 11, 2012
Subject: bushings
Hello, Some time ago - but I think this year - somebody posted some information about bushings. I spent a long while searching, but couldn't find neither the post nor the product. Does anybody remember it? ...and while I have your attention: the upper and lower rudder hinges have different size holes (1/4" and 3/16" respectively), but the bushing is 1/4" for both...?? Thanks Carlos ________________________________________________________________________________
From: Carl <b.carl(at)sympatico.ca>
Subject: Re: bushings
Date: Jul 01, 2012
Hi Carlos. I have made bushings using tubing available in model a/c shops. You can get them in many sizes made of copper or al. I used copper. Hope this helps. 701 on amphibs, 912 ul ----- Original Message ----- From: Carlos Sa To: zenith-list(at)matronics.com ; zenith601-list(at)matronics.com ; zenith750-list(at)matronics.com Sent: Monday, June 11, 2012 12:12 PM Subject: Zenith750-List: bushings Hello, Some time ago - but I think this year - somebody posted some information about bushings. I spent a long while searching, but couldn't find neither the post nor the product. Does anybody remember it? ...and while I have your attention: the upper and lower rudder hinges have different size holes (1/4" and 3/16" respectively), but the bushing is 1/4" for both...?? Thanks Carlos ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jul 01, 2012
From: rayj <raymondj(at)frontiernet.net>
Subject: Re: bushings
Carl, I got this as a private email. Just an FYI Raymond Julian Kettle River, MN. "And you know that I could have me a million more friends, and all I'd have to lose is my point of view." - John Prine On 07/01/2012 05:47 PM, Carl wrote: > Hi Carlos. > I have made bushings using tubing available in model a/c shops. You can > get them in many sizes made of copper or al. > I used copper. Hope this helps. > 701 on amphibs, 912 ul > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* Carlos Sa > *To:* zenith-list(at)matronics.com ; > zenith601-list(at)matronics.com ; > zenith750-list(at)matronics.com > *Sent:* Monday, June 11, 2012 12:12 PM > *Subject:* Zenith750-List: bushings > > Hello, > > Some time ago - but I think this year - somebody posted some > information about bushings. > I spent a long while searching, but couldn't find neither the post > nor the product. > > Does anybody remember it? > > ...and while I have your attention: the upper and lower rudder > hinges have different size holes (1/4" and 3/16" respectively), but > the bushing is 1/4" for both...?? > > Thanks > > > Carlos > > * > > href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Zenith750-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Zenith750-List > href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com > href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c > * > > * > > > * > ________________________________________________________________________________
From: Carlos Sa <carlossa52(at)gmail.com>
Date: Jul 01, 2012
Subject: Re: bushings
I hadn't thought of that... thanks, Carl On 1 July 2012 18:47, Carl wrote: > ** > Hi Carlos. > I have made bushings using tubing available in model a/c shops. You can > get them in many sizes made of copper or al. > I used copper. Hope this helps. > 701 on amphibs, 912 ul > > ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jul 01, 2012
Subject: Re: bushings
From: Tommy Walker <twalker(at)cableone.net>
Aircraft Spruce sells oil-impregnated bronze bushing material. That's what I used. They will last forever. Tommy Walker On Sun, Jul 1, 2012 at 6:35 PM, Carlos Sa wrote: > I hadn't thought of that... thanks, Carl > > On 1 July 2012 18:47, Carl wrote: > >> ** >> Hi Carlos. >> I have made bushings using tubing available in model a/c shops. You can >> get them in many sizes made of copper or al. >> I used copper. Hope this helps. >> 701 on amphibs, 912 ul >> >> > * > > * > > ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Dirk Zahtilla" <ideaz1(at)sbcglobal.net>
Subject: bushings
Date: Jul 02, 2012
I don't usually but into these things but I couldn't help commenting. IMHO bushings that take ANY stress should be bronze or bronzite (best, a harder alloy with good wear properties). Copper is way too soft and will wear through very quickly. Good luck on your project, Dirk Zahtilla From: owner-zenith750-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-zenith750-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Carlos Sa Sent: Sunday, July 01, 2012 4:35 PM Subject: Re: Zenith750-List: bushings I hadn't thought of that... thanks, Carl On 1 July 2012 18:47, Carl wrote: Hi Carlos. I have made bushings using tubing available in model a/c shops. You can get them in many sizes made of copper or al. I used copper. Hope this helps. 701 on amphibs, 912 ul ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Tommy Walker" <twalker(at)cableone.net>
Subject: bushings
Date: Jul 02, 2012
Dirk, I agree. I sent Carl a msg about ACS having that material. Tommy Walker _____ From: owner-zenith750-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-zenith750-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dirk Zahtilla Sent: Monday, July 02, 2012 11:23 AM Subject: RE: Zenith750-List: bushings I don't usually but into these things but I couldn't help commenting. IMHO bushings that take ANY stress should be bronze or bronzite (best, a harder alloy with good wear properties). Copper is way too soft and will wear through very quickly. Good luck on your project, Dirk Zahtilla From: owner-zenith750-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-zenith750-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Carlos Sa Sent: Sunday, July 01, 2012 4:35 PM Subject: Re: Zenith750-List: bushings I hadn't thought of that... thanks, Carl On 1 July 2012 18:47, Carl wrote: Hi Carlos. I have made bushings using tubing available in model a/c shops. You can get them in many sizes made of copper or al. I used copper. Hope this helps. 701 on amphibs, 912 ul http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Zenith750-List http://forums.matronics.com http://www.matronics.com/contribution ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "George Race" <mykitairplane(at)mrrace.com>
Subject: Items For Your Airplane
Date: Aug 13, 2012
Oshkosh is over and now back to building your airplanes. I have a lot of convenience items for your airplane. Access openings, access doors, data plates, and the list goes on and on. Check here for more information: http://www.mrrace.com/Products/ Most of my items come from requests from builders. Do you have something I can build for you? George ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "George Race" <mykitairplane(at)mrrace.com>
Subject: Startup Of A New Zenith Builders Forum
Date: Oct 07, 2012
For a long time I have been thinking about starting a Forum for Zenith users to exchange thoughts, ideas, question, and pictures of their projects. Many of you have been my customers, and over many years have supported my efforts to provide Access Opening and many other Zenith related items through my web site. As a builder of a Zenith 701, much of my building experience has gone into the design of my products. In addition, many of you have suggested custom made part assemblies that have turned into products on my web site as well. Many of you have contributed a lot to the growth of my part time retirement venture, and now it is time for me to give back something to you, the builders. You are probably thinking that the one thing you don't need, is another forum to check into and post items on. But please don't sell it short before you have taken a look at what I have provided for you the builders. Using the Simple Machine Forum software, this forum adds a brand new look to a Builders Forum. Very easy to navigate, able to check new posted items quickly, and simple to post on with lots of options, you will find it is a very refreshing new look. In addition, I promise, the board will never be populated with commercial advertising, no matter how large or popular it becomes. Any benefits derived from this venture will be those that come about through sales of my items and new products that you may come up with. But having said that, there will be no outright advertising of my products on the forum either. Many times I have been ask to provide references and put others in touch with those who have purchased and installed my products. You will find categories on the Forum that are for your comments on each of my many products. If you have purchased items from me, I encourage you to share your experience and thoughts with other about my products. Posting pictures of your custom installations would be even more of a plus for other users to see. Whether, your comments are good, bad, or indifferent, they will never be deleted or edited. I guess you could call this my form of advertising on the site, driven by your personal comments! If you don't wish to feature your build in a new posting, that will need your attention and maintenance to keep up with, I encourage you to sign up as a user on the site and share your profile and comments for other users to see. Then, under the appropriate Category, add an HTML link to the web site and page where your builders information can be found. That way visitors to the various Airplane Categories will be able to go to your web page and see your project as well. That way you have nothing to maintain on this new forum. I want this to be your Forum,, a place with a new look that you can use to get answers, give out information to others, and show off your airplane projects. You can get to the Forum directly here: http://www.mrrace.com/forum/ Or from my web site, click on the "Forum" button at the top of each page. Thanks, and I look forward to seeing you as a user of this new Builders Forum, George ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Looking for CH750 builder in Southeast Washington state
From: "robert t moore" <bobandlindamoore1(at)msn.com>
Date: Oct 18, 2012
Anybody building a CH750 in Southeast Washington State (TriCities or ???).I am working the tail feathers and have the fuse and controls kit. Have a Jab 3300 for it, and probably will use a SkyView in it. Bob Moore 509 521 7323 bobandlindamoore1(at)msn.com Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=385641#385641 ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 01, 2012
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: PLEASE READ - Matronics Email List Fund Raiser During
November! Dear Listers, Each November I hold a PBS-like fund raiser to support the continued operation and upgrade of the Email List and Fourm Services at Matronics. It's through solely through the Contributions of List members that these Matronics Lists are possible. You have probably noticed that there are no banner ads or pop-up windows on any of the Matronics Lists or related web sites such as the Forums site http://forums.matronics.com , Wiki site http://wiki.matronics.com , or other related pages such as the List Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search , List Browse http://www.matronics.com/listbrowse , etc. This is because I believe in a List experience that is completely about the sport we all enjoy - namely Airplanes and not about annoying advertisements. During the month of November I will be sending out List messages every couple of days reminding everyone that the Fund Raiser is underway. I ask for your patience and understanding during the Fund Raiser and throughout these regular messages. The Fund Raiser is only financial support mechanism I have to pay all of the bills associated with running these lists. Your personal Contribution counts! Once again, this year I've got a terrific line up of free gifts to go along with the various Contribution levels. Most all of these gifts have been provided by some of the vary members and vendors that you'll find on Matronics Lists and have been either donated or provided at substantially discounted rates. This year, these generous people include: Bob Nuckolls of the AeroElectric Connection http://www.aeroelectric.com Andy Gold of the Builder's Bookstore http://www.buildersbooks.com Jon Croke of HomebuiltHELP http://www.homebuilthelp.com These are very generous guys and I encourage you to visit their respective web sites. Each one offers a unique and very useful aviation-related product line. I would like publicly to thank Bob, Andy, and Jon for their generous support of the Lists again this year!! Please make your List Contribution using any one of three secure methods including using a credit card, PayPal, or by personal check. All three methods afford you the opportunity to select one of this year's free gifts with a qualifying Contribution amount!! To make your Contribution, please visit the secure site: http://www.matronics.com/contribution I would like to thank everyone in advance for their generous financial AND moral support over the years! Thank you for your support! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator RV-4/RV-6/RV-8 Builder/Rebuilder/Pilot ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 03, 2012
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Please Make A Contribution To Support Your Lists
Dear Listers, There is no advertising income to support the Matronics Email Lists and Forums. The operation is supported 100% by your personal Contributions during the November Fund Raiser. Please make your Contribution today to support the continued operation and upgrade of these services. You can pick up a really nice gift for making your Contribution too! You may use a Credit Card or Paypal at the Matronics Contribution Site here: http://www.matronics.com/contribution or, you can send a personal check to the following address: Matronics / Matt Dralle 581 Jeannie Way Livermore, CA 94550 Thank you in advance for your generous support! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List and Forum Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Please Make A Contribution To Support Your Lists
From: "Kenneth M. Heide" <kmheidecpo(at)yahoo.com>
Date: Nov 03, 2012
Please enough! Remove me and all emails from you. I have unsubscribed from your site well over a year ago! Go away! Kenneth M. Heide Sent from my iPhone On Nov 3, 2012, at 12:31 PM, Matt Dralle wrote: > > Dear Listers, > > There is no advertising income to support the Matronics Email Lists and Forums. The operation is supported 100% by your personal Contributions during the November Fund > Raiser. > > Please make your Contribution today to support the continued operation and upgrade of these services. You can pick up a really nice gift for making your Contribution > too! > > You may use a Credit Card or Paypal at the Matronics Contribution Site here: > > http://www.matronics.com/contribution > > or, you can send a personal check to the following address: > > Matronics / Matt Dralle > 581 Jeannie Way > Livermore, CA 94550 > > Thank you in advance for your generous support! > > Matt Dralle > Matronics Email List and Forum Administrator > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 03, 2012
Subject: Re: Please Make A Contribution To Support Your Lists
From: Joe Motis <joemotis(at)gmail.com>
Here Ken, try this link http://www.matronics.com/subscription Joe motis no archive eh On Sat, Nov 3, 2012 at 11:52 AM, Kenneth M. Heide wrote: > kmheidecpo(at)yahoo.com> > > Please enough! Remove me and all emails from you. I have unsubscribed from > your site well over a year ago! > > Go away! > > Kenneth M. Heide > Sent from my iPhone > > On Nov 3, 2012, at 12:31 PM, Matt Dralle wrote: > > > > > Dear Listers, > > > > There is no advertising income to support the Matronics Email Lists and > Forums. The operation is supported 100% by your personal Contributions > during the November Fund > > Raiser. > > > > Please make your Contribution today to support the continued operation > and upgrade of these services. You can pick up a really nice gift for > making your Contribution > > too! > > > > You may use a Credit Card or Paypal at the Matronics Contribution Site > here: > > > > http://www.matronics.com/contribution > > > > or, you can send a personal check to the following address: > > > > Matronics / Matt Dralle > > 581 Jeannie Way > > Livermore, CA 94550 > > > > Thank you in advance for your generous support! > > > > Matt Dralle > > Matronics Email List and Forum Administrator > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 05, 2012
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Coming Soon - The List of Contributors - Please Make A
Contribution Today! Each year at the end of the List Fund Raiser, I post a message acknowledging everyone that so generously made a Contribution to support the Lists. Its my way of publicly thanking everyone that took a minute to show their appreciation for the Lists. Please take a moment and assure that your name is on that List of Contributors (LOC)! As a number of members have pointed out over the years, the List seems at least as valuable a building / entertainment tool as your typical magazine subscription! Make sure that your name is on this year's LOC! Show others that you appreciate the Lists. Making a Contribution to support the Lists is fast and easy using your Credit card or Paypal on the Secure Web Site: http://www.matronics.com/contribution or by dropping a personal check in the mail to: Matt Dralle / Matronics 581 Jeannie Way Livermore CA 94550 I would like to thank everyone that has so generously made a Contribution thus far in this year's List Fund Raiser! Remember that its YOUR support that keeps these Lists going and improving! Don't forget to include a little comment about how the Lists have helped you! Best regards, Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 06, 2012
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: A Message From AeroElectric's Bob Nuckolls...
Dear Listers, The well known Bob Nuckolls of the AeroElectric posted a great message Monday on the AeroElectric-List regarding the Matronics Lists and the importance of supporting the operation during the Fund Raiser. Please take a minute to read Bob's commentary below, reposted to the other Matronics Lists with his permission... Date: Mon, 05 Nov 2012 08:58:41 -0600 From: "Robert L. Nuckolls, III" <nuckolls.bob(at)aeroelectric.com> Subject: AeroElectric-List: Re: Please Make A Contribution Today! At 02:14 AM 11/5/2012, Matt Dralle wrote: > > Each year at the end of the List Fund Raiser, I post a message > acknowledging everyone that so generously made a Contribution to > support the Lists. Its my way of publicly thanking everyone that > took a minute to show their appreciation for the Lists. > I will add my voice to this suggestion. It's easy to enjoy the benefits of what's available to us off-the-shelves at the corner mega-marts. It's seldom that we give pause to learn and understand the processes and tools that made it possible to reach out and select from dozens of options. This, and all civil societies, runs on talent, energy and mobility. Mobility exploited by thousands of hands, machines and transportation that figure into the 'infrastructure' that puts the boxes of Wheaties and Pop Tarts on the shelves. See "I pencil" http://tinyurl.com/36xkhq Any break in that chain of time, talent and resources at least interrupts if not totally halts flow of that benefit. Matt's room full of byte-thrashers is like the natural gas pumping station a few miles from my house. If those pumps stop, who ever is expecting the furnace to come on at the other end of the pipe is at risk for reduced service and/or higher costs for that service. Matt's yearly endeavor to keep his pumps running is a trivial burden on the members of the Lists but of incalculable value to those who participate on them. No donation is too small. We go to a fly-in a willingly chuck a few bucks into the coffee can at the drinks and donuts table, let's chuck a few bucks into Matt's coffee can too. 50,000 pounds of value doesn't get to the shelves on time if one 18-wheeler runs out of gas. The T-bytes of data flow we all enjoy don't get from your keyboard to the screens of others unless Matt pays the light bill and strokes the machines to keep them happy. No, $5 won't get you a free copy of the 'Connection or a fuel sampler but it will go toward the assurance that logging onto your favorite List will open doors that you would be sorely missed should you find that hitting the return key doesn't produce the expected response. $5 from every List customer on Matt's system will go a very long way to keeping the byte-pumps running. $More$ will go a long way to upgrading the size and quality of the machines as the old ones get long in the tooth. No matter what size of donation you choose . . . please do it now . . . Bob . . . Please make your Contribution today to support the continued operation and upgrade of these services. You can pick up a really nice gift for making your Contribution too! You may use a Credit Card or Paypal at the Matronics Contribution Site here: http://www.matronics.com/contribution or, you can send a personal check to the following address: Matronics / Matt Dralle 581 Jeannie Way Livermore, CA 94550 Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 08, 2012
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Make A List Contribution - It's Your Personal Squelch
Button... There is an automatic "squelch button" of sorts for the Fund Raiser messages. Here's how it works... As soon as a List member makes a Contribution through the Matronics Fund Raiser web site, their email address is automatically added to this year's Contributor List and they instantly cease to receive further Fund Raiser messages for the rest of the month! Its just that simple! :-) I really do appreciate each and every one of your individual Contributions to support the Lists. It is your support that enables me to upgrade the hardware and software that are required to run a List Site such as this one. It also goes to pay for the commercial-grade Internet connection and to pay the huge electric bill to keep the computer gear running and the air conditioner powered on. I run all of the Matronics Email List and Forums sites here locally which allows me to control and monitor every aspect of the system for the utmost in reliably and performance. Your personal Contribution matters because, when combined with other Listers such as yourself, it pays the bills to keep this site up and running. I accept exactly ZERO advertising dollars for the Matronics Lists sites. I can't stand the pop-up ads and all other commercials that are so prevalent on the Internet these days and I particularly don't want to have it on my Email List sites. If you appreciate the ad-free, grass-roots, down-home feel of the Matronics Email Lists, please make a Contribution to keep it that way!! http://www.matronics.com/contribution or, you can send a personal check to the following address: Matronics / Matt Dralle 581 Jeannie Way Livermore, CA 94550 Thank you! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator [Note that there are certain circumstances where you might still see a Contribution related message. For example, if someone replies to one of the messages, when using the List Browse feature, or when accessing List message via the Forum. The system keys on the given email address and since most of these are anonymous public access methods, there is no simple way to filter them.] ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 10, 2012
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Please Support The Lists...
Dear Listers, Just a reminder that November is the Matronics Email List Fund Raiser month. There are some very nice incentive gifts to choose from as well! Please make your Contribution today at: http://www.matronics.com/contribution or by dropping a personal check in the mail to: Matt Dralle / Matronics 581 Jeannie Way Livermore CA 94550 Thank you! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 12, 2012
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: What's Your Contribution Used For?
Dear Listers, You might have wondered at some pointd, "What's my Contribution used for?" Here are just a few examples of what your direct List support enables... It provides for the expensive, commercial-grade Internet connection used on the List. It pays for the regular system hardware and software upgrades enabling the highest performance possible for List services such as the Archive Search Engine, List Browser, and the Web Forums. It pays for the over 22 years of on-line archive data always available for instant search and access. And, it offsets the many hours spent writing, developing, and maintaining the custom applications that power these List Service such as the List Browse, Search Engine, Forums, and Wiki. But most importantly, your List Contribution enables a forum where you and your peers can communicate freely in an environment that is free from moderation, censorship, advertising, commercialism, SPAM, and computer viruses. It is YOUR CONTRIBUTION that directly enables all these aspects of Matronics List services. Please support it today with your List Contribution. Its one of the best investments you can make in your Sport! List Contribution Web Site: http://www.matronics.com/contribution or, you can send a personal check to the following address: Matronics / Matt Dralle 581 Jeannie Way Livermore, CA 94550 Thank you for your support! Matt Dralle Email List Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 14, 2012
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Make Sure You're Listed! List of Contributors Published
in December! Dear Listers, The List of Contributors (LOC) is just around the corner! In December I post a list of everyone that so generously made a Contribution to support the Lists. Its my way of publicly thanking everyone that took a minute to show their appreciation for the Lists. Won't you take minute and assure that your name is on the upcoming LOC? Tell others that you appreciate the Lists. Making a Contribution to support the Lists is fast and easy using your Visa, MasterCard, or Paypal account: http://www.matronics.com/contribution Or, by dropping a personal check in the mail to: Matronics / Matt Dralle 581 Jeannie Way Livermore CA 94550 I would like to thank everyone that has so generously made a Contribution thus far during this year's List Fund Raiser! Remember that its YOUR support that keeps these Lists running and improving! Don't forget to include a little comment about how the Lists have helped you! Thank you! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 16, 2012
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Who is Matt Dralle & What Are The Lists?
Dear Listers, Who is Matt Dralle and what exactly are these Lists anyway? I've been working in the Information Technology industry for over 28 years, primarily in computer networking design and implementation and more recently as an embedded software engineer. I have also done a fair amount of work in web design and development. I started the Matronics Email Lists way back in 1990 shortly after I started building my RV-4 with about 30 fellow RV builders from around the world. Since that time, I have added many other types of aircraft related Lists to the line up and numerous other List related services such as the Forums, Wiki, Archives and Search Engine just to name a few. For flexibility and reliability, I have chosen to run all of my own servers locally. Other List-related systems include a 1 Gigabit, fully switched network infrastructure, a commercial-grade Netscreen firewall, a Barracuda spam filter, a local T1 Internet router, and a bonded dual T1 commercial-grade business Internet connection with full static addressing. The computer servers include a dual quad-core Linux server for List web services with 24GB of memory, a quad -core Linux system dedicated to the email processing List functions, and another standalone Linux system serving as a remote storage disk farm for the archives, databases, and for an on-line hard drive-based backup system with multi-terra byts of online storage. This entire system is protected by three large, commercial-grade uninterrupted power supply systems (UPS) that assure the Lists are available even during a local power outage! Speaking of power, imagine how much electricity it takes to run all of these systems. On the average, the elctric bill is in the neighborhood of $7000-$8000/yr and the newly upgraded dual-T1 Internet connection runs roughly $6000/yr. A while back, I upgraded all of the computer racking infrastructure including new power feeds and dedicated air conditioning for the room that serves as the Computer Center for the Matronics Email Lists and followed that upgrade up with a second rack upgrade to house the MONSTER web system that didn't quite fit into the first rack! Here's a composite photo of the List Computer Center prior to the addition of the second rack: http://www.matronics.com/MattDralle-ListComputerCenter.jpg As you can see, I take running these Lists very seriously and I am dedicated to providing an always-on, 24x7x365 experience for each and every Lister. But building and running this system isn't cheap. As I've mentioned many times before, I don't use commercial advertisments to support any of these systems. It is supported 100% through List member Contributions! That means you... and you... and YOU! To that end, I hold a List Fund Raiser each November and ask that members make a Contribution to support the continued operation and upgrade of this ever-expanding system. Its solely YOUR Contributions that keeps it running! Please make a Contribution today to support these Lists! http://www.matronics.com/contribution Or, by dropping a personal check in the mail to: Matronics / Matt Dralle 581 Jeannie Way Livermore CA 94550 Thank you! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 19, 2012
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Reminder
Dear Listers, A quick reminder that November is the annual Matronics List Fund Raiser. The Lists are 100% member supported and all of the operational costs are covered solely through your Contributions during this time of the year. *Your* personal Contribution makes a difference and keeps all of the Matronics Email Lists and Forums completely ad-free. Please make your Contribution today to keep these services up and running for another great year! Use a credit card or your PayPal account here: http://www.matronics.com/contribution Or, by sending a personal check to: Matronics / Matt Dralle 581 Jeannie Way Livermore CA 94550 Thank you in advance! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List and Forum Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 21, 2012
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Some Nice Comments...
Dear Listers, I've been getting some very nice comments from Listers along with their List Support Contributions. I've shared a number of them below. Please read them over and see what your fellow Listers think of the Lists and Forums. Please make a Contribution today to support the continued upgrade and operation of these services. There are lots of sweet gifts available this year, so please browse the nice selection and pickup something fun with your qualifying Contribution! You may use a credit card or your PayPal account here: http://www.matronics.com/contribution Or feel free to send a personal check to: Matronics / Matt Dralle 581 Jeannie Way Livermore CA 94550 Thank you in advance for your generous support! It is very much appreciated! Best regards, Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator -------------------- What Listers Are Saying About The Lists -------------------- I have been flying my Pietenpol for a month now and am enjoying the fruits of ten hard years of work. I seriously doubt it would ever have been finished but for the help, encouragement and friendships I've received and made through the Pietenpol list. Douwe B Outstanding service to the flying community. George A Matt, I look forward to support each others projects, Glenn B Great list!!! Thanks for all your efforts! Roger C Thank you for keeping up the lists. Without it i would never have completed my aircraft. Stan S Keep up the good work my friend. I don't think I could ever finish my Pietenpol Air Camper without the help I get from this List. Tom S Thank you for keeping these list alive. Lee V The List is invaluable!! Svein J Thanks for continuing to provide the list service! Earl S You have a really GREAT service. Thankyou so much I've been on for nearly 30 years and I still check-in every morning. John B I rely fully on the lists which govern my every decision. The flexibility provides the security I seek. Fergus K My RV 7 Finally flies... 7 years of Matronics.com certainly helped. Martin H Great service here, thanks! I am just getting back to a project I dropped for a few years, great to see your site and all the folks again! James C Thanks for the great site. Robert U The Rotax list is good and the AeroElectric list outstanding! Jay H Thank you for a great resource! Jack T Thanks for your great record of outstanding service to the homebuilding community! Larry W This service is invaluable. Michael W You're doing a great job Matt. Robert D Thanks for all your work, its a great asset to all. John F Thank you for your time & effort Matt! Ted W Matt, been a follower since 2005 on the -10 list, now starting an -8. Keep up the great work! John M Still my favorite place to hang out. William W I'm not a Piet builder, but this is the most informative and congenial list I've ever run across. Please forgive my lurking-I learn a LOT here! Ken M Many thanks for keeping this alive, keep pushing! Adrian C Thanks! Please keep r going! Rich Z Many thanks for your hard work. Robert C Thanks for the Lists! I probably need to subscribe to a few more... John M Been a quick 14 years. Think I subscribed to the Kolb List in 1998, when I got my first computer. Thanks for keeping everything running smoothly for all these years. John H Great resource - thank you. David M I don't post very much, but get the postings, a lot of really practical info. John N Great job Matt, thanks for all you do. Roger M Thanks for ANOTHER great year, Matt! True grassroots experimental aviation has been pushed aside in many ways. But the List represents the evolution of this great tradition of home-building. One man, the plans, the tools, and the List - that's all you need to build the dream! Robert B This message board is a real help to my project and creating friendships. John S Many thanks for your continuing excellent work. Mike G Thank you for your work Matt. Your lists have helped me a great deal during the construction of my plane. Hal B Nice List Van E These lists are priceless for builders. Ronald C Thanks for keeping me in touch with the Pulsar community. Otto S Thanks for keeping up this great warbird sight!! Yak Ron Thanks for providing all the lists for so many years. H H Thanks for all that you do. Your dedication is much appreciated! Warren H Best service on the internet! Owen B I have learned so much from the "list". Nick C Great Service You Are Providing! Giffen M Thanks so much for maintaining these great resources. Dave S I no longer fly due to age and health problems, but I still enjoy the reading from other pilots. Dallas S This is a wonderful site. Robert B Useful service over the last year - thanks. Om T -------------------- What Listers Are Saying About The Lists -------------------- ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 23, 2012
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: "Black Friday" For List Fund Raiser...?
Dear Listers, The number of List subscriptions are up by a fair amount this year, but support during this year's Fund Raiser is substantially behind last year, and there's only about a week left until the end of the Fund Raiser. I have always preferred a non-commercial List experience as many, many members have also expressed that they do as well. However, if the yearly fund raiser cannot generate sufficient funds to keep the bills paid, other sources of income might be required including some sort of advertising. Please don't let that happen! Your personal Contribution of $20 or $30 goes a long ways to keeping this operation a float. Please make sure your name is on this year's List of Contributors! The List Contribution site is secure, quick, and easy: http://www.matronics.com/contribution Or, drop a personal check in the mail to: Matt Dralle / Matronics 581 Jeannie Way Livermore CA 94550 Thank you in advance for your support! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List and Forum Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 25, 2012
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Just A Few More Days To Make Your List Contribution...
There is less than a week left in this year's List Fund Raiser and only a few short days to grab one of the great Contribution Gifts available this year. Support is still significantly lagging behind last year at this point but hopefully it will pick up here towards the end. Please remember that it is solely the Contributions of List members that keeps the Lists up and running as there is no commercialism or advertising on the Matronics Lists and Forums. The List Contribution web site is secure, fast, and easy and you can use a credit card, Paypal, or a personal check: http://www.matronics.com/contribution Or, drop a personal check in the mail to: Matt Dralle / Matronics 581 Jeannie Way Livermore CA 94550 I want to thank everyone that has already made a generous contribution to support the Lists! Thank you! Matt Dralle Matronics EMail List and Forum Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 26, 2012
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Contributions Down By 23%...
Dear Listers, As of today, Contributions to the Matronics List Fund Raiser are lagging behind last year at this time by roughly 23%. I have a Fund Raiser each year simply to cover my operating costs for the Lists. I *do not* accept any advertising income to support the Lists and rely solely on the Contributions of members to keep the expenses paid. I run all of my own servers and they are housed here locally, and the Internet connection is a commercial-grade, dual T1 connection with public address space. I also maintain a full backup system that does nightly backups of all List-related data so that in the event of a server crash, all of the Lists and the many years of List archive data could be restored onto a new server in a matter of hours. All of this costs a fair amount of money, not to mention a significant amount of my personal time. I have a Fund Raiser each year to cover these costs and I ask that members that feel they receive a benefit from my investments make a modest Contribution each year to support the continued operation and upgrade of these services. If you enjoy the Lists, please make a Contribution today. I also offer some incentive gifts for larger Contribution levels. At the Contribution Web Site, you can use a credit card, Paypal, or personal check to show your support for the continuation of these services: http://www.matronics.com/contribution Or, drop a personal check in the mail to: Matt Dralle / Matronics 581 Jeannie Way Livermore CA 94550 Thank you for your support! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 27, 2012
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Make Sure You're Listed! List of Contributors Coming
in December! Dear Listers, There's just a couple more days left in this year's List Fund Raiser and that means the List of Contributors (LOC) is just around the corner! In December I post a list of everyone that so generously made a Contribution to support the Lists. Its my way of publicly thanking everyone that took a minute to show their appreciation for the Lists. Won't you take minute and assure that your name is on the upcoming LOC? Tell others that you appreciate the Lists. Making a Contribution to support the Lists is fast and easy using your Visa, MasterCard, or Paypal account: http://www.matronics.com/contribution Or, drop a personal check in the mail to: Matt Dralle / Matronics 581 Jeannie Way Livermore CA 94550 I would like to thank everyone that has so generously made a Contribution thus far during this year's List Fund Raiser! Remember that its YOUR support that keeps these Lists running and improving! Don't forget to include a little comment about how the Lists have helped you! Thank you! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 28, 2012
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Just 3 Days Left - Please Make Your List Contribution
Today! There are only three days left until the end of this year's List Fund Raiser. Please take a minute to show your support as so many others have this year and make sure YOUR name is on the forthcoming List of Contributors! Its quick and easy using the secure web site with a credit card or PayPal: http://www.matronics.com/contribution or by sending your personal check to: Matronics Lists c/o Matt Dralle 581 Jeannie Way Livermore, CA 94550 Thank you in advance for your support of these List services! Matt Dralle Matronics Email and Forum Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 29, 2012
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Just Two Days Left! - Still Behind...
Dear Listers, There are just two more days left in this years List Fund Raiser. Over the last couple of weeks I have received some more really nice comments from members on what the Lists have meant to them. I have included a few more of them below. Please read over the comments and ponder on your own feelings about the Lists and the support and camaraderie you have found here. We are still behind last year in terms of the number of contributions. I really want to keep providing these services to the homebuilt community, but it take resources. Since there's no advertising budget or deep pockets to keep the operation a float, its solely your generosity during the Fund Raiser that keeps things going. Please make a Contribution today. If you've been putting off showing your support for the Lists, now is the time to do it! Make a contribution with a Credit Card or though PayPal at that Matronics Contribution web site: http://www.matronics.com/contribution Or, drop a check in the mail: Matronics / Matt Dralle 581 Jeannie Way Livermore, CA 94550 Thank you in advance for your support! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ==================== A Few List Member Comments ===================== I have been flying my Pietenpol for a month now and am enjoying the fruits of ten hard years of work. I seriously doubt it would ever have been finished but for the help, encouragement and friendships I've received and made through the Pietenpol list. Douwe B Hey-Long time subscriber, zero-time contributor. Just a note of thanks. This is first time I have the resources to contribute. Thanks for carrying a lightweight for years and a special thanks for your time and effort. Billy R My 601 hd is flying with the help with the listers. Noel G A very useful facility. Graeme B ..great site! Robert C Great Pietenpol site! Don Y Not active but always interested in keeping up. Enjoy when I can. Richard R Dave and Tim from Aircrafters just want to reiterate our thanks for hosting the lists. Tim F. I don't have a lot to give at this time of year, but I hope my contribution helps none the less. I really enjoy the message board. Mark C Thanks to your continued work on maintaining these lists. Ralph C The lists and the various contributors have been a great help while I was building and also now that I'm flying. Albert G Very helpful tools for the homebuilder. Vaughn T We appreciate your great help! Richard H Many of our customers have expressed to us that you provide them with an invaluable service - and we agree! Bill B I Fly a Quicksilver GT400 but love to read what the Kolb boys have to say and it was on your list that I found out about the Yamaha product Ring Free,, now called engine med, that shit works.. no carbon in my rings or any to speak of with the use of the Yamaha product with a premix 503 with over 300 hrs of use.. thanks to your Kolb bulletin board. Robert B You are providing a valuable service that helps a lot of people through information sharing. When I built my Pietenpol over 40 years ago we were largely on our own, working without a resource like this list. Graham H Thanks for the opportunity to link us all, keep the good work! Peter B ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 30, 2012
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: [Please Read] - Last Official Day of List Fund Raiser!
Dear Listers, Its November 30th and that always means a couple of things. Its my birthday again; number 49 actually! But it also means that its that last official day of the Matronics Email List Fund Raiser! If you been thinking about picking up one of those really nice incentive gifts now is the time to jump on it!! If you've been meaning to make a Contribution this month but have been putting it off for some reason, NOW is the time! I will be posting the List of Contributors in a few days, so you'll probably want to be known as a person that supported the Lists! I want to thank everyone that has so generously made a Contribution this year in support of our Lists. It is your generosity that keeps this operation running and I don't ever forget it. The List Contribution Web Site is fast and easy. Please support our habit by making your Contribution right now: http://www.matronics.com/contribution Or, by dropping a personal check in the mail to: Matt Dralle / Matronics 581 Jeannie Way Livermore CA 94550 Thank you to all in advance! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Dec 10, 2012
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: 2012 List of Contributors
Dear Listers, The 2012 Matronics Email List and Forum Fund Raiser officially ended about a week ago and its time that I publish this year's List of Contributors. It is the people on this list that directly make the Email Lists and Forums possible! Their generous Contributions keep the servers and Internet connection up and running! You can still show your support this year and pick up a great gift at the same time. The Contribution Web Site is fast, easy, and secure: http://www.matronics.com/contribution Or, by dropping a personal check in the mail to: Matt Dralle / Matronics 581 Jeannie Way Livermore CA 94550 I also want to thank Bob, Jon, and Andy for their generous support through the supply of great gifts this year!! These guys have some excellent products and I encourage you to visit their respective web sites: Bob Nucklolls - AeroElectric - http://www.aeroelectric.com Jon Croke - HomebuiltHELP - http://www.homebuilthelp.com Andy Gold - The Builder's Bookstore - http://www.buildersbooks.com And finally, I'm proud to present The 2012 Fund Raiser List of Contributors: http://www.matronics.com/loc/2012.html Thanks again to everyone that made a Contribution this year!! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List and Forum Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jan 01, 2013
From: Viorel Nichols <viorel.nichols(at)yahoo.com>
Subject: Auto-response
Away on holiday from the 22 December 2012 till 29 January 2013 Wishing you a happy festive season . Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year from Viorel ... ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "George Race" <mykitairplane(at)mrrace.com>
Subject: A couple of new products for the 750 builder
Date: Jan 03, 2013
Happy new year to all the 750 builders, hope you projects are doing well. Late last year, a couple of builders came to me for some custom access openings. Ken Ryan in Anchorage AK needed a very small access opening to get to the Flaperon Pushrods for adjustment. Jeff Millburg from Thayer IL needed some way to get access to the bolts that hold the seat rails in place, size was very limited. Both resulted in new products on my web site. See the details at http://www.mrrace.com under the Products Tab. Ken's is the PRIO Kit, Jeff's is the SRAK Kit. As always, please let me know if there is something I can build for you, George ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Mar 26, 2013
From: rayj <raymondj(at)frontiernet.net>
Subject: DAR experience
Greetings, I'm in northern Minnesota andI need to pick a DAR to work with during my 750 build. I'd like to hear about anyone's experiences with their DARin the Minnesota area. Please email me directly if you would prefer not to post on the list. All privateemails willremain confidential. Thanks in advance. -- Raymond Julian Kettle River, MN. "And you know that I could have me a million more friends, and all I'd have to lose is my point of view." - John Prine ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Mar 29, 2013
From: Bruce Cruikshank <n5959z(at)gmail.com>
Subject: Invitation to connect on LinkedIn
LinkedIn ------------ I'd like to add you to my professional network on LinkedIn. - Bruce Bruce Cruikshank -- United States Confirm that you know Bruce Cruikshank: https://www.linkedin.com/e/pywnxq-hevwmi6w-72/isd/12043764682/_5TZiQ_k/?hs=false&tok=1pwMeeTKXh25I1 -- You are receiving Invitation to Connect emails. Click to unsubscribe: http://www.linkedin.com/e/pywnxq-hevwmi6w-72/zFeigojP2dOUEm5FbFFMIcg11OVhCk98Qk3jOXfnRWo/goo/zenith750-list%40matronics%2Ecom/20061/I3992976707_1/?hs=false&tok=1U8m1LLRLh25I1 (c) 2012 LinkedIn Corporation. 2029 Stierlin Ct, Mountain View, CA 94043, USA. ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 01, 2013
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: PLEASE READ - Matronics Email List Fund Raiser During
November! Dear Listers, Each November I hold a PBS-like fund raiser to support the continued operation and upgrade of the Email List and Fourm Services at Matronics. It's solely through the Contributions of List members (you) that these Matronics Lists are possible. You have probably noticed that there are no banner ads or pop-up windows on any of the Matronics Lists or related web sites such as the Forums site http://forums.matronics.com , Wiki site http://wiki.matronics.com , or other related pages such as the List Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search , List Browse http://www.matronics.com/listbrowse , etc. This is because I believe in a List experience that is completely about the sport we all enjoy - namely Airplanes and not about annoying advertisements. During the month of November I will be sending out List messages every couple of days reminding everyone that the Fund Raiser is underway. I ask for your patience and understanding during the Fund Raiser and throughout these regular messages. The Fund Raiser is only financial support mechanism I have to pay all of the bills associated with running these lists. YOUR personal Contribution counts! This year we have a really HUGE and TERRIFIC line up of free gifts to go along with the various Contribution levels. In fact, there are over 30 different gifts to choose from - more than we've ever had before! There's something for everyone, to be sure. Most all of these gifts have been provided by some of the vary members and vendors that you'll find on the Matronics Lists and they have been either donated or provided at substantially discounted rates. This year, these generous members include: Andy Gold of the Builder's Bookstore http://www.buildersbooks.com Bob Nuckolls of the AeroElectric Connection http://www.aeroelectric.com Corbin Glowacki of My Pilot Store http://www.mypilotstore.com George Race of Race Consulting http://www.mrrace.com/ Jon Croke of HomebuiltHELP http://www.homebuilthelp.com These are very generous guys and I encourage you to visit their respective web sites. Each one offers a unique and excellent aviation-related product line. I would like publicly to thank Andy, Bob, Corbin, George, and Jon their generous support of the Lists again this year!! Please make your List Contribution using any one of three secure methods including using a credit card, PayPal, or by personal check. All three methods afford you the opportunity to select one of this year's free gifts with a qualifying Contribution amount!! To make your Contribution, please visit the secure web site: http://www.matronics.com/contribution I would like to thank everyone in advance for their generous financial AND moral support over the years! Thank you! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator RV-4/RV-6/RV-8 Builder/Rebuilder/Pilot ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 04, 2013
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Please Make A Contribution To Support Your Lists
Dear Listers, There is no advertising income to support the Matronics Email Lists and Forums. The operation is supported 100% by your personal Contributions during the November Fund Raiser. Please make your Contribution today to support the continued operation and upgrade of these services. You can pick up a really nice gift for making your Contribution too! You may use a Credit Card or Paypal at the Matronics Contribution Site here: http://www.matronics.com/contribution or, you can send a personal check to the following address: Matronics / Matt Dralle 581 Jeannie Way Livermore, CA 94550 Thank you in advance for your generous support! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List and Forum Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 06, 2013
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Network Issues At Matronics Last Few Days...
Dear Listers, Starting sometime on Friday November 1st, my Internet Service Provider (ISP) began "upgrading" their Domain Name Servers (DNS). DNS servers allow the resolution of computer names such as "www.matronics.com" to real addresses such as 64.81.74.3. This also impacts email delivery as well, since there is another layer of resolution that applies to email names. Because of this upgrade on the part of my ISP, DNS service started getting unreliable around Friday sometime, but I didn't notice it until sometime on Saturday. When I used a tool called "nslookup" to test the resolution of name-to-address, about 50-75% of the time my ISP's servers would response with an "SERVFAIL" indicating that they didn't know the answer. I opened a ticket with the ISP on Saturday, and by Sunday afternoon I had no feedback on the ticket so I called in to support. "We upgrading the DNS servers, and it should back by Sunday at 5pm." 5pm came and went with no resolution. Well, long story short by Tuesday morning things were still not fixed and in fact much worse. So, I opted to move all my DNS service to a different service provider. I have a lot of DNS entries, so it took a while to get everything moved over. It generally takes about 24 hours for a change like that to fully propagate across the Internet which would be Wednesday morning sometime. I've noticed that the Matronics web server traffic is picking up again, so many sites have already propagated the new information. I really should have just moved the DNS on Saturday when I first noticed the troubles, but with stuff like this, you just keep believing that it gonna be fixed any minute now.... And, in fact, that's what my ISP kept telling me... Its always a giant bummer when stuff like this happens and particularly during the Fund Raiser. I apologize to anyone that has tried to make a Contribution in the last few days and had issues or was simply unable to connect. By the time you read this email, the DNS should be fully propagated, and I ask that you please try again. The Contribution web site URL is: http://www.matronics.com/contribution or, you can send a personal check to the following address: Matronics / Matt Dralle 581 Jeannie Way Livermore, CA 94550 Thank you for your kind consideration and patience, Matt Dralle Matronics Email List and Forum Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 07, 2013
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Coming Soon - The List of Contributors - Please Make A
Contribution Today! Each year at the end of the List Fund Raiser, I post a message acknowledging everyone that so generously made a Contribution to support the Lists. Its my way of publicly thanking everyone that took a minute to show their appreciation for the Lists. Please take a moment and assure that your name is on that List of Contributors (LOC)! As a number of members have pointed out over the years, the List seems at least as valuable a building / entertainment tool as your typical magazine subscription! Assure that your name is on this year's LOC! Show others that you appreciate the Lists. Making a Contribution to support the Lists is fast and easy using your Credit card or Paypal on the Secure Web Site: http://www.matronics.com/contribution or by dropping a personal check in the mail to: Matt Dralle / Matronics 581 Jeannie Way Livermore CA 94550 I would like to thank everyone that has so generously made a Contribution thus far in this year's List Fund Raiser! Remember that its YOUR support that keeps these Lists going and improving! Don't forget to include a little comment about how the Lists have helped you! Best regards, Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 09, 2013
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Please Make a Contribution to Support Your Lists...
Dear Listers, Just a reminder that November is the Annual List Fund Raiser. Please make a Contribution today to support the continued operation and upgrade of these great List services!! Pick up a really nice free gift with your qualifying Contribution too! The Contribution Site is fast and easy: http://www.matronics.com/contribution or by dropping a personal check in the mail to: Matt Dralle / Matronics 581 Jeannie Way Livermore CA 94551-0347 Thank you! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 11, 2013
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: A List Contribution - It's Your Personal Squelch Button...
There is an automatic "squelch button" of sorts for the Fund Raiser messages. Here's how it works... As soon as a List member makes a Contribution through the Matronics Fund Raiser web site, their email address is automatically added to this year's Contributor List and they instantly cease to receive further Fund Raiser messages for the rest of the month! Its just that simple! :-) I really do appreciate each and every one of your individual Contributions to support the Lists. It is your support that enables me to upgrade the hardware and software that are required to run a List Site such as this one. It also goes to pay for the commercial-grade Internet connection and to pay the huge electric bill to keep the computer gear running and the air conditioner powered on. I run all of the Matronics Email List and Forums sites here locally which allows me to control and monitor every aspect of the system for the utmost in reliably and performance. Your personal Contribution matters because, when combined with other Listers such as yourself, it pays the bills to keep this site up and running. I accept exactly ZERO advertising dollars for the Matronics Lists sites. I can't stand the pop-up ads and all other commercials that are so prevalent on the Internet these days and I particularly don't want to have it on my Email List sites. If you appreciate the ad-free, grass-roots, down-home feel of the Matronics Email Lists, please make a Contribution to keep it that way!! http://www.matronics.com/contribution or, you can send a personal check to the following address: Matronics / Matt Dralle 581 Jeannie Way Livermore, CA 94550 Thank you! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator [Note that there are certain circumstances where you might still see a Contribution related message. For example, if someone replies to one of the messages, when using the List Browse feature, or when accessing List message via the Forum. The system keys on the given email address and since most of these are anonymous public access methods, there is no simple way to filter them.] ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 11, 2013
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Matronics Email Disruption Fixed...
Dear Listers, Starting around midnight this morning 11/11/13, the Matronics Barracuda spam filter that receives all incoming email from the Internet, developed a problem and started rejecting all incoming email. I just got off the phone with the Barracuda technical support and we have If you have posted to any of the Lists during this time, you will need to resend your email to the respective List. My apologies for the disruption! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List and Forum Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 13, 2013
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Please Make A List Contribution Today; Some Nice Comments...
Dear Listers, I've been getting some very nice comments from Listers along with their List Support Contributions. I've shared a number of them below. Please read them over and see what your fellow Listers think of the Lists and Forums. Please make a Contribution today to support the continued upgrade and operation of these services. There are lots of really nice gifts available this year, so please browse the selections and pickup something fun with your qualifying Contribution! You may use a credit card or your PayPal account here: http://www.matronics.com/contribution Or feel free to send a personal check to: Matronics / Matt Dralle 581 Jeannie Way Livermore CA 94550 Thank you in advance for your generous support! It is very much appreciated! Best regards, Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator -------------------- What Listers Are Saying About The Lists -------------------- I wondered off for a few years & am coming back. I firmly believe you provide greater value to us than some magazine subscriptions. William F Thanks for helping me connect to people have truly blazed the trail. Terry M Thank you for the time and effort you put into keeping these lists going. I am on the verge of flying my RV 8 and would not be here without the help of Matronics. Michael W Thank you for providing a valuable service. Vaughn T Matt I like your forums. Jerry D Thank you for another year of service. Oscar Z Been a "member" for years - this has been a fantastic resource and a great gift to the aviation community. Reade G Thanks for the many years of support to RV builders. Roy H Best run list on the net. Roger C Thanks for your excellent forum! Fred D Truly respect your work and service to many readers!! Fergus K Thanks for an ad-free list! William A Thank you for your GREAT service. I read it every day. John B ..great service! Ralph C Thanks so much for being there. Your contribution to aviation knowledge is invaluable. Benjamin B Thank you for providing the list service. It's great! William V I'd never have finished my Glasair without them. Ronald C Thank you Matt for the valuable forum, am pleased to contribute! Jeffrey J Fine service. Byron G Thanks for your support of our community! Kenneth B -------------------- What Listers Are Saying About The Lists -------------------- ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 15, 2013
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Make Sure You're Listed! List of Contributors Published
in December! Dear Listers, The List of Contributors (LOC) is just around the corner! In December I post a list of everyone that so generously made a Contribution to support the Lists. Its my way of publicly thanking everyone that took a minute to show their appreciation for the Lists. Won't you take minute and assure that your name is on the upcoming LOC? Tell others that you appreciate the Lists. Making a Contribution to support the Lists is fast and easy using your Visa, MasterCard, or Paypal account: http://www.matronics.com/contribution Or, drop a personal check in the mail to: Matt Dralle / Matronics 581 Jeannie Way Livermore CA 94550 USA I would like to thank everyone that has so generously made a Contribution thus far during this year's List Fund Raiser! Remember that its YOUR support that keeps these Lists running and improving! Don't forget to include a little comment about how the Lists have helped you! Thank you! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 18, 2013
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Fund Raiser Behind By 25% - Please Contribute Today!
Dear Listers, The percentage of members making a Contribution to support the Lists this year is currently behind last year by at this time by roughly 25%. We got off to a slow start this year with the network DNS issues on the kickoff weekend, so please take this opportunity to show your support for the Matronics Lists and Forums! Please remember that it is *solely* your direct Contributions that keep these Lists and Forums up and running and most importantly - AD FREE! If the members don't want to support the Lists directly, then I might have to add advertisements to offset the costs of running the Lists. But I don't want to have to do that. I really like the non-commercial atmosphere here and I think that a lot of the members appreciate that too. Please take a moment to make a Contribution today in support of the continued ad-free operation of all these Lists: http://www.matronics.com/contribution Or, drop a personal check in the mail to: Matt Dralle / Matronics 581 Jeannie Way Livermore CA 94550 USA I want to send out a word of appreciation to all of the members that have already made their generous Contribution to support the Lists! Thank you! Matt Dralle Email List and Forums Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 20, 2013
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Value of the List...
If you look forward to checking your List email everyday (and a lot of you have written to say that you do!), then you're probably getting at least $20 or $30 worth of Entertainment from the Lists each year. You'd pay twice that for a subscription to some magazine or even a dinner out. Isn't the List worth at least that much to you? Wouldn't it be great if you could pay that amount and get a well-managed media source free of advertising, SPAM, and viruses? Come to think of it, you do... :-) Won't you please take a minute to make your Contribution today and support these Lists? http://www.matronics.com/contribution Or, drop a personal check in the mail to: Matt Dralle / Matronics 581 Jeannie Way Livermore CA 94550 USA I want to say THANK YOU to everyone that has made a Contribution thus far during this year's List Fund Raiser!! These Lists are made possible exclusively through YOUR generosity!! Thank you for your support! Matt Dralle Email List Admin. ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 22, 2013
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Please Make A Contribution Today...
Dear Listers, A quick reminder that November is the annual List Fund Raiser and the List of Contributors is quickly approching. The Matronics Lists are 100% member supported and all of the operational costs are provided for by your Contributions during this time of the year. Your personal Contribution makes a big difference and keeps all of the Matronics Email Lists and Forums completely ad-free. Please make your Contribution today to keep these services up and running! http://www.matronics.com/contribution or by dropping a personal check in the mail to: Matt Dralle / Matronics 581 Jeannie Way Livermore CA 94550 Thank you in advance! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List and Forum Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 25, 2013
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: [PLEASE READ] Why I Have A Fund Raiser...
>From the beginning, the Matronics List and Forum experience has been free from advertising. I have been approached by fair number of vendors wanting to tap into the large volume of activity across the various lists hosted here, but have always flatly refused. Everywhere you go on the Internet these days, a user is pummeled with flashing banners and videos and ads for crap that they don't want. Yahoo, Google and that elk are not "free". The user must constantly endure their barrage of commercialism thrust into their face at an ever increasing rate. Enough is enough, and the Lists at Matronics choose not to succumb to that. That being said, running a service of this size is not "free". It costs a lot of money to maintain the hardware, pay for the electricity, air conditioning, maintenance contracts, etc, etc. etc. I choose to hold a PBS-like fund raiser each year during the month of November where I simply send out a short email every other day asking the members to make a small contribution to support the operation. That being said, that contribution is completely voluntary and non-compulsory. Many members choose not to contribute and that's fine. However, a very modest percentage of the members do choose to make a contribution and it is that financial support that keeps the Lists running. And that's it. To my way of thinking, it is a much more pleasant way of maintaining the Lists and Forums. The other 11 months of the year, you don't see a single advertisement or request for support. That's refreshing and that is a List and Forum that I want to belong to. I think other people feel the same way. Won't you please take a minute to make your Contribution today and support these Lists? http://www.matronics.com/contribution Or, drop a personal check in the mail to: Matt Dralle / Matronics 581 Jeannie Way Livermore CA 94550 USA Thank you for your support! Matt Dralle Email List Admin. ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 26, 2013
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Of Pencils & Airplanes [Repost From AeroElectric-List]...
[Dear Listers, last week, Bob Nuckolls of the AeroElectric fame, posted a very nice message discussing the Lists and Forums at Matronics. It is a very insightful piece and I asked Bob if I could forward it to the rest of the Lists for the other members to enjoy and contemplate as well. He gladly agreed, and so below I have included the text from that message. Enjoy. -Matt Dralle, Matronics Email List and Forum Administrator] "As most of you know, Matt's ISP was fiddling with some crucial details for the exchange of data on the 'net a few weeks ago. The Lists, Matt's business site, and AeroElectric.com got really flakey. . . I was 'unhooked' from the List and all of three of my e-mail services for several days. Out of business and out of touch. After two days, I was beginning to worry. I had no idea as to root cause nor was there a time table for resolution . . . I began to mull over plan-B options. Of course, plan-B would have entailed seeking a new home for aeroelectric.com and ancillary services. NOT a quick, inexpensive or happy thing to contemplate. The time talents and resources that go into fabrication and maintenance of some of the 'simplest' features of our lives often go unnoticed . . . not because they're unappreciated . . . but simply because we're unaware of their significance. I will invite you all to read an essay by one Leonard Read written in 1958 titled "I pencil". See: http://tinyurl.com/me3q3hj It's a fascinating and well crafted peek into a society of unacquainted, self-interested individuals who exploited uncountable windows of opportunity for what has been called "spontaneous order" in the manufacture and sales of the simple wood pencil. The point of citing Mr. Read's essay is to examine two features of the human experience that contribute to the success of this List and our various interests in airplanes. The first point I'd like to make is that we cannot know the millions of individuals who contributed to the materials and infrastructure that make this List possible. We sit at the top of a pyramid of work-product derived from the time, talents and resources of millions of people who we'll never know. Another feature I'd like to emphasis is our ignorance of the criticality for any single component for a host of materials and components for the manufacture and sales of a simple pencil or an affordable airplane. Suppose any one of the materials or processes described in Read's essay were simply unavailable. How would that impact the price of a pencil? Would the pencil even continue to exist at it's new price? The really big question is, "How might some seemingly small loss ripple throughout the economy of our existence?" The time, talent and resources that support infrastructure for this List, my website, Matt's website, and our e-mails cannot be accurately known. That infrastructure stands on an exceedingly complex array of activities that arose from the ingenuity and spontaneous organization of free- market enterprises. But from our perch at the top of this pyramid we need only look down a few layers and see that this resource upon which we depend is vulnerable. There are risks we all assume . . . Matt could get t-boned in an intersection tomorrow. Lightning could strike the pole behind his facility and do catastrophic damage to the hardware. Yours truly could take a deer through the windshield on his way to Wichita some morning. Other risks are less catastrophic. They include things like amateurish behaviors by maintainers of the Internet highway's potholes. Perhaps some material critical to the manufacture of terabyte hard drives dries up. Or maybe the cost of keeping the lights on and the bytes herded become more than Matt can justify given his personal needs for existence. Several times a year I get an opportunity to plant new seeds of thought in the minds of fellow citizens. One of my favorites is to be standing in a long line at Panera's waiting to purchase a bagel and coffee and hear somebody in line complaining about the wait. I suggest to them that to wait in line for a much desired product is a GOOD thing. Not having to wait is a BAD thing if there is not enough business to encourage them to be open tomorrow. It goes without saying that few, if any of us, possess the talents, resources or motivation to step up and do what Matt does. At last count, there were about 1600 individuals who subscribe to this List [Aeroelectric-List]. . . certainly many more make up the population of subscribers to all of the Lists on Matronics. A few years back, Matt was besieged by legal trials and tribulations over the naming of his products . . . seems somebody claimed ownership of the words 'scan' and/or 'scanner' . . . We here on the AeroElectric-List perceived a risk to Matt's operations and came up with several thousands of dollars to contribute to his defense fund. We need make no greater 'investment' in Matt's operations now than it takes to stand in a line for a Quarter-Pounder Combo . . . or a fist full of pencils. You and I can have no more positive influence over the manufacture of pencils and hard drives than to continue to purchase such things and encourage those with the time, talent and resources to continue doing what they do best. Let's contribute to the comfortable maintenance of this service which is probably more valuable than we know. Just a little bit from thousands of us on the Matronics Lists can make a big difference. Bob . . ." Please take a minute to make your Contribution today: http://www.matronics.com/contribution Or, drop a personal check in the mail to: Matt Dralle / Matronics 581 Jeannie Way Livermore CA 94550 USA Thank you for your support! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List and Forum Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 27, 2013
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Make Sure You're Listed! List of Contributors Coming
Soon! Dear Listers, There's just a few more days left in this year's List Fund Raiser and that means the List of Contributors (LOC) is just around the corner! In December I post a list of everyone that so generously made a Contribution to support the Lists. Its my way of publicly thanking everyone that took a minute to show their appreciation for the Lists. Won't you take minute and assure that your name is on the upcoming LOC? Tell others that you appreciate the Lists. Making a Contribution to support the Lists is fast and easy using your Visa, MasterCard, or Paypal account: http://www.matronics.com/contribution Or, drop a personal check in the mail to: Matt Dralle / Matronics 581 Jeannie Way Livermore CA 94550 I would like to thank everyone that has so generously made a Contribution thus far during this year's List Fund Raiser! Remember that its YOUR support that keeps these Lists running and improving! Don't forget to include a little comment about how the Lists have helped you! Thank you! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 29, 2013
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Just Two Days Left...
Dear Listers, There are just a couple days left for this year's List Fund Raiser. If you've been putting off making a Contribution until the last minute, well, this is it! The last minute, that is... :-) There are some GREAT new gift selections to choose from this year. I personally want at least four of them! There's probably something you can't live without too! And, best of all it supports your Lists! Please remember that there isn't any sort of commercial advertising on the Lists and the *only* means of keeping these Lists running is through your Contributions during this Fund Raiser. Let's make this a "Black Friday" for the Lists! Please make a Contribution today! http://www.matronics.com/contribution Or, drop a personal check in the mail to: Matt Dralle / Matronics 581 Jeannie Way Livermore CA 94550 Thank you! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 30, 2013
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: [Please Read] - Last Official Day of List Fund Raiser!
Dear Listers, It's November 30th and that always means a couple of things. Its my birthday again; the big 50, in fact! But it also means that it's that last official day of the Matronics Email List Fund Raiser! If you been thinking about picking up one of those really nice incentive gifts now is the time to jump on it!! If you've been meaning to make a Contribution this month but have been putting it off for some reason, NOW is the time! I will be posting the List of Contributors in a few days, so you'll probably want to be known as a person that supported the Lists! I want to thank everyone that has so generously made a Contribution this year in support of our Lists. It is your generosity that keeps this operation running and I don't ever forget it. The List Contribution Web Site is fast and easy. Please support our habit by making your Contribution right now: http://www.matronics.com/contribution Or, by dropping a personal check in the mail to: Matt Dralle / Matronics 581 Jeannie Way Livermore CA 94550 Thank you to all in advance! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Dec 16, 2013
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: 2013 List of Contributors
Dear Listers, The 2013 Matronics Email List and Forum Fund Raiser officially ended a couple of weeks ago and it's time that I published this year's List of Contributors. It is the people on this list that directly make these Email Lists and Forums possible! Their generous Contributions keep the servers and Internet connection up and running! You can still show your support this year and pick up a great gift at the same time. The Contribution Web Site is fast, easy, and secure: http://www.matronics.com/contribution Or, by dropping a personal check in the mail to: Matt Dralle / Matronics 581 Jeannie Way Livermore CA 94550 I also want to thank Andy, Bob, Corbin, George, and Jon for their generous support through the supply of many great gifts this year!! These guys have some excellent products and I encourage you to visit their respective web sites: Andy Gold - The Builder's Bookstore - http://www.buildersbooks.com Bob Nucklolls - AeroElectric - http://www.aeroelectric.com Corbin Glowacki - My Pilot Store - http://www.mypilotstore.com George Race - Race Consulting - http://www.mrrace.com Jon Croke - HomebuiltHELP - http://www.homebuilthelp.com And finally, I'm proud to present The 2013 Fund Raiser List of Contributors: http://www.matronics.com/loc/2013.html Thank you again to everyone that made a Contribution this year!! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List & Forum Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Apr 16, 2014
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Matronics Web Server Down for Repair (PLEASE READ)...
Dear Listers, Late Tuesday night 4/15/2014, the Matronics Web server crashed due to a multi-disk RAID 5 failure. The system has complete data backups, but I will likely have to order some replacement disks to rebuild the system. I'll work as quickly as I can to restore the Matronics Web Server. The Matronics EMAIL server is NOT impacted by this issue. All normal Matronics Email List mail will flow as usual. However, the Matronics Web Forums interface will not be available. Also impacted by the Web Server outage will be the AeroElectric web site. I will try to post daily updates on the Web Server restoration status. I apologize for the inconvenience... :-( Best regards, Matt Dralle Matronics Email List and Forum Admin. Matt G Dralle | Matronics | 581 Jeannie Way | Livermore | CA | 94550 925-606-1001 V | 925-606-6281 F | dralle(at)matronics.com Email http://www.matronics.com/ WWW | Featuring Products For Aircraft ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Apr 17, 2014
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Matronics Web Server Repaired and ONLINE! (PLEASE READ)
Dear Listers, The new hard drives for the Matronics web server arrived today, Thursday 4/17/2014 and the RAID5 disk array rebuild went very smoothly. Web server is back online and fully functional! No data or files were lost. Additionally, those that frequent the AeroElectric web site will find that it has been restored as well. Best regards, Matt Dralle Matronics Email List and Forum Admin. Matt G Dralle | Matronics | 581 Jeannie Way | Livermore | CA | 94550 925-606-1001 V | 925-606-6281 F | dralle(at)matronics.com Email http://www.matronics.com/ WWW | Featuring Products For Aircraft ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: F/S : Samsung Galaxy S5......$450
From: "active4" <LarryHoodlarryhood(at)hotmail.com>
Date: Jul 14, 2014
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From: "George Race" <mykitairplane(at)mrrace.com>
Subject: Access Opening Kits
Date: Oct 21, 2014
Just a reminder, I have a lot of access opening kits as well as a lot of other neat items to help with your airplane build. You can find the details at www.mrrace.com/products/ All the best, George ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 01, 2014
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: PLEASE READ - Matronics Email List Fund Raiser During
November! Dear Listers, Each November I hold a PBS-like fund raiser to support the continued operation and upgrade of the Email List and Fourm Services at Matronics. It's solely through the Contributions of List members (you) that these Matronics Lists are possible. You have probably noticed that there are no banner ads or pop-up windows on any of the Matronics Lists or related web sites such as the Forums site http://forums.matronics.com , Wiki site http://wiki.matronics.com , or other related pages such as the List Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search , List Browse http://www.matronics.com/listbrowse , etc. This is because I believe in a List experience that is completely about the sport we all enjoy - namely Airplanes and not about annoying advertisements. During the month of November I will be sending out List messages every couple of days reminding everyone that the Fund Raiser is underway. I ask for your patience and understanding during the Fund Raiser and throughout these regular messages. The Fund Raiser is only financial support mechanism I have to pay all of the bills associated with running these lists. YOUR personal Contribution counts! This year we have a really HUGE and TERRIFIC line up of free gifts to go along with the various Contribution levels. In fact, there are over 30 different gifts to choose from - more than we've ever had before! There's something for everyone, to be sure. Most all of these gifts have been provided by some of the vary members and vendors that you'll find on the Matronics Lists and they have been either donated or provided at substantially discounted rates. This year, these generous members include: Andy Gold of the Builder's Bookstore http://www.buildersbooks.com Bob Nuckolls of the AeroElectric Connection http://www.aeroelectric.com Corbin Glowacki of My Pilot Store http://www.mypilotstore.com George Race of Race Consulting http://www.mrrace.com/ Jon Croke of HomebuiltHELP http://www.homebuilthelp.com These are very generous guys and I encourage you to visit their respective web sites. Each one offers a unique and excellent aviation-related product line. I would like publicly to thank Andy, Bob, Corbin, George, and Jon their generous support of the Lists again this year!! Please make your List Contribution using any one of three secure methods including using a credit card, PayPal, or by personal check. All three methods afford you the opportunity to select one of this year's free gifts with a qualifying Contribution amount!! To make your Contribution, please visit the secure web site: http://www.matronics.com/contribution I would like to thank everyone in advance for their generous financial AND moral support over the years! Thank you! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator RV-4/RV-6/RV-8 Builder/Rebuilder/Pilot ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 03, 2014
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Please Make A Contribution To Support Your Lists
Dear Listers, There is no advertising income to support the Matronics Email Lists and Forums. The operation is supported 100% by your personal Contributions during the November Fund Raiser. Please make your Contribution today to support the continued operation and upgrade of these services. You can pick up a really nice gift for making your Contribution too! You may use a Credit Card or Paypal at the Matronics Contribution Site here: http://www.matronics.com/contribution or, you can send a personal check to the following address: Matronics / Matt Dralle 581 Jeannie Way Livermore, CA 94550 Thank you in advance for your generous support! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List and Forum Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 05, 2014
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Coming Soon - The List of Contributors - Please Make A
Contribution Today! Each year at the end of the List Fund Raiser, I post a message acknowledging everyone that so generously made a Contribution to support the Lists. Its my way of publicly thanking everyone that took a minute to show their appreciation for the Lists. Please take a moment and assure that your name is on that List of Contributors (LOC)! As a number of members have pointed out over the years, the List seems at least as valuable a building / entertainment tool as your typical magazine subscription! Assure that your name is on this year's LOC! Show others that you appreciate the Lists. Making a Contribution to support the Lists is fast and easy using your Credit card or Paypal on the Secure Web Site: http://www.matronics.com/contribution or by dropping a personal check in the mail to: Matt Dralle / Matronics 581 Jeannie Way Livermore CA 94550 I would like to thank everyone that has so generously made a Contribution thus far in this year's List Fund Raiser! Remember that its YOUR support that keeps these Lists going and improving! Don't forget to include a little comment about how the Lists have helped you! Best regards, Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 07, 2014
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Please Make a Contribution to Support Your Lists...
Dear Listers, Just a reminder that November is the Annual List Fund Raiser. Please make a Contribution today to support the continued operation and upgrade of these great List services!! Pick up a really nice free gift with your qualifying Contribution too! The Contribution Site is fast and easy: http://www.matronics.com/contribution or by dropping a personal check in the mail to: Matt Dralle / Matronics 581 Jeannie Way Livermore CA 94551-0347 Thank you! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 10, 2014
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: A List Contribution - It's Your Personal Squelch Button...
There is an automatic "squelch button" of sorts for the Fund Raiser messages. Here's how it works... As soon as a List member makes a Contribution through the Matronics Fund Raiser web site, their email address is automatically added to this year's Contributor List and they instantly cease to receive further Fund Raiser messages for the rest of the month! Its just that simple! :-) I really do appreciate each and every one of your individual Contributions to support the Lists. It is your support that enables me to upgrade the hardware and software that are required to run a List Site such as this one. It also goes to pay for the commercial-grade Internet connection and to pay the huge electric bill to keep the computer gear running and the air conditioner powered on. I run all of the Matronics Email List and Forums sites here locally which allows me to control and monitor every aspect of the system for the utmost in reliably and performance. Your personal Contribution matters because, when combined with other Listers such as yourself, it pays the bills to keep this site up and running. I accept exactly ZERO advertising dollars for the Matronics Lists sites. I can't stand the pop-up ads and all other commercials that are so prevalent on the Internet these days and I particularly don't want to have it on my Email List sites. If you appreciate the ad-free, grass-roots, down-home feel of the Matronics Email Lists, please make a Contribution to keep it that way!! http://www.matronics.com/contribution or, you can send a personal check to the following address: Matronics / Matt Dralle 581 Jeannie Way Livermore, CA 94550 Thank you! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator [Note that there are certain circumstances where you might still see a Contribution related message. For example, if someone replies to one of the messages, when using the List Browse feature, or when accessing List message via the Forum. The system keys on the given email address and since most of these are anonymous public access methods, there is no simple way to filter them.] ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 12, 2014
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Make Sure You're Listed! List of Contributors Published
in December! Dear Listers, The List of Contributors (LOC) is just around the corner! In December I post a list of everyone that so generously made a Contribution to support the Lists. Its my way of publicly thanking everyone that took a minute to show their appreciation for the Lists. Won't you take minute and assure that your name is on the upcoming LOC? Tell others that you appreciate the Lists. Making a Contribution to support the Lists is fast and easy using your Visa, MasterCard, or Paypal account: http://www.matronics.com/contribution Or, drop a personal check in the mail to: Matt Dralle / Matronics 581 Jeannie Way Livermore CA 94550 USA I would like to thank everyone that has so generously made a Contribution thus far during this year's List Fund Raiser! Remember that its YOUR support that keeps these Lists running and improving! Don't forget to include a little comment about how the Lists have helped you! Thank you! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 14, 2014
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Please Make a Contribution to Support Your Lists...
Dear Listers, Just a reminder that November is the Annual List Fund Raiser. Please make a Contribution today to support the continued operation and upgrade of these great List services!! Pick up a really nice free gift with your qualifying Contribution too! The Contribution Site is fast and easy: http://www.matronics.com/contribution or by dropping a personal check in the mail to: Matt Dralle / Matronics 581 Jeannie Way Livermore CA 94550 Thank you! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 17, 2014
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: What's Your Contribution Used For?
Dear Listers, You might have wondered at some point, "What's my Contribution used for?" Here are just a few examples of what your direct List support enables... It provides for the expensive, commercial-grade Internet connection used on the List. It pays for the regular system hardware and software upgrades enabling the highest performance possible for List services such as the Archive Search Engine, List Browser, and the Web Forums. It pays for the over 23 years of on-line archive data always available for instant search and access. And, it offsets the many hours spent writing, developing, and maintaining the custom applications that power these List Service such as the List Browse, Search Engine, Forums, and Wiki. But most importantly, your List Contribution enables a forum where you and your peers can communicate freely in an environment that is free from moderation, censorship, advertising, commercialism, SPAM, and computer viruses. It is YOUR CONTRIBUTION that directly enables all these aspects of Matronics List services. Please support it today with your List Contribution. Its one of the best investments you can make in your Sport! List Contribution Web Site: http://www.matronics.com/contribution or, you can send a personal check to the following address: Matronics / Matt Dralle 581 Jeannie Way Livermore, CA 94550 Thank you for your support! Matt Dralle Email List Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 19, 2014
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Value of the List...
If you look forward to checking your List email everyday (and a lot of you have written to say that you do!), then you're probably getting at least $20 or $30 worth of Entertainment from the Lists each year. You'd pay twice that for a subscription to some magazine or even a dinner out. Isn't the List worth at least that much to you? Wouldn't it be great if you could pay that amount and get a well-managed media source free of advertising, SPAM, and viruses? Come to think of it, you do... :-) Won't you please take a minute to make your Contribution today and support these Lists? http://www.matronics.com/contribution Or, drop a personal check in the mail to: Matt Dralle / Matronics 581 Jeannie Way Livermore CA 94550 USA I want to say THANK YOU to everyone that has made a Contribution thus far during this year's List Fund Raiser!! These Lists are made possible exclusively through YOUR generosity!! Thank you for your support! Matt Dralle Email List Admin. ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 21, 2014
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: [PLEASE READ] Why I Have A Fund Raiser...
Since the beginning, the Matronics List and Forum experience has been free from advertising. I have been approached by fair number of vendors wanting to tap into the large volume of activity across the various lists hosted here, but have always flatly refused. Everywhere you go on the Internet these days, a user is pummeled with flashing banners and videos and ads for crap that they don't want. Yahoo, Google and that elk are not "free". The user must constantly endure their barrage of commercialism thrust into their face at an ever increasing rate. Enough is enough, and the Lists at Matronics choose not to succumb to that. That being said, running a service of this size is not "free". It costs a lot of money to maintain the hardware, pay for the electricity, air conditioning, maintenance contracts, etc, etc. etc. I choose to hold a PBS-like fund raiser each year during the month of November where I simply send out a short email every other day asking the members to make a small contribution to support the operation. That being said, that contribution is completely voluntary and non-compulsory. Many members choose not to contribute and that's fine. However, a very modest percentage of the members do choose to make a contribution and it is that financial support that keeps the Lists running. And that's it. To my way of thinking, it is a much more pleasant way of maintaining the Lists and Forums. The other 11 months of the year, you don't see a single advertisement or request for support. That's refreshing and that is a List and Forum that I want to belong to. I think other people feel the same way. Won't you please take a minute to make your Contribution today and support these Lists? http://www.matronics.com/contribution Or, drop a personal check in the mail to: Matt Dralle / Matronics 581 Jeannie Way Livermore CA 94550 USA Thank you for your support! Matt Dralle Email List Admin. ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 23, 2014
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Just A Few Days Left...
Dear Listers, There are just a few days left for this year's List Fund Raiser. If you've been putting off making a Contribution until the last minute, well, this is it! The last minute, that is... :-) There are some GREAT new gift selections to choose from this year. I personally want at least three of them! There's probably something you can't live without too! And, best of all it supports your Lists! Please remember that there isn't any sort of commercial advertising on the Lists and the *only* means of keeping these Lists running is through your Contributions during this Fund Raiser. Let's make this a "Black Friday" for the Lists! Please make a Contribution today! http://www.matronics.com/contribution Or, drop a personal check in the mail to: Matt Dralle / Matronics 581 Jeannie Way Livermore CA 94550 Thank you! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 24, 2014
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Fund Raiser Behind By 20% - Please Contribute Today!
Dear Listers, The percentage of members making a Contribution to support the Lists this year is currently behind last year by at this time by roughly 20%. Please take this opportunity to show your support for the Matronics Lists and Forums! Please remember that it is *solely* your direct Contributions that keep these Lists and Forums up and running and most importantly - AD FREE! If the members don't want to support the Lists directly, then I might have to add advertisements to offset the costs of running the Lists. But I don't want to have to do that. I really like the non-commercial atmosphere here and I think that a lot of the members appreciate that too. Please take a moment to make a Contribution today in support of the continued ad-free operation of all these Lists: http://www.matronics.com/contribution Or, drop a personal check in the mail to: Matt Dralle / Matronics 581 Jeannie Way Livermore CA 94550 USA I want to send out a word of appreciation to all of the members that have already made their generous Contribution to support the Lists! Thank you! Matt Dralle Email List and Forums Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 25, 2014
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Make Sure You're Listed! List of Contributors Coming
Soon! Dear Listers, There's just a few more days left in this year's List Fund Raiser and that means the List of Contributors (LOC) is just around the corner! In December I post a list of everyone that so generously made a Contribution to support the Lists. Its my way of publicly thanking everyone that took a minute to show their appreciation for the Lists. Won't you take minute and assure that your name is on the upcoming LOC? Tell others that you appreciate the Lists. Making a Contribution to support the Lists is fast and easy using your Visa, MasterCard, or Paypal account: http://www.matronics.com/contribution Or, drop a personal check in the mail to: Matt Dralle / Matronics 581 Jeannie Way Livermore CA 94550 I would like to thank everyone that has so generously made a Contribution thus far during this year's List Fund Raiser! Remember that its YOUR support that keeps these Lists running and improving! Don't forget to include a little comment about how the Lists have helped you! Thank you! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 26, 2014
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Giving Thanks - Your List Contribution...
Dear Listers, Here in the United States, Thursday is our National day of Thanksgiving. Many of us will be traveling to be with our families and friends to share in generous feasts of plenty and giving thanks for the many blessings that have been bestowed upon us. Many Listers have expressed over the last couple of weeks how thankful they are for the Email Lists and Forums here on the Matronics servers and for all of the assistance and comradery they have experienced being a part of the Lists. One of my favorite comments is when someone writes to me and says something like, "Its the first thing I do in the morning while I'm having my morning coffee!". That's a wonderful tribute to the purpose and function of these Lists. Its always great to hear I'm not the only one that jumps out of bed each morning to check my List email!! Won't you take a minute today and show your appreciation for these Lists and for their continued operation and upgrade? The List Contribution Site is: http://www.matronics.com/contribution Or, drop a personal check in the mail to: Matt Dralle / Matronics 581 Jeannie Way Livermore CA 94550 USA Thank you in advance for your kind consideration, Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 28, 2014
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Just Two Days Left! - Still Behind...
Dear Listers, There are just two more days left in this years List Fund Raiser. We are still way behind last year in terms of the number of contributions and total contribution amount. I really want to keep providing these services to the homebuilt community, but it take resources. Since there's no advertising budget or deep pockets to keep the operation a float, its solely your generosity during the Fund Raiser that keeps things going. Please make a Contribution today. If you've been putting off showing your support for the Lists, now is the time to do it! Make a contribution with a Credit Card or though PayPal at that Matronics Contribution web site: http://www.matronics.com/contribution Or, drop a check in the mail: Matronics / Matt Dralle 581 Jeannie Way Livermore, CA 94550 Thank you in advance for your support! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 29, 2014
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Make Sure You're Listed! List of Contributors Coming
Soon! Dear Listers, There's just two more days left in this year's List Fund Raiser and that means the List of Contributors (LOC) is just around the corner! In December I post a list of everyone that so generously made a Contribution to support the Lists. Its my way of publicly thanking everyone that took a minute to show their appreciation for the Lists. Won't you take minute and assure that your name is on the upcoming LOC? Tell others that you appreciate the Lists. Making a Contribution to support the Lists is fast and easy using your Visa, MasterCard, or Paypal account: http://www.matronics.com/contribution Or, drop a personal check in the mail to: Matt Dralle / Matronics 581 Jeannie Way Livermore CA 94550 I would like to thank everyone that has so generously made a Contribution thus far during this year's List Fund Raiser! Remember that its YOUR support that keeps these Lists running and improving! Don't forget to include a little comment about how the Lists have helped you! Thank you! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 30, 2014
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: [Please Read] - Last Official Day of List Fund Raiser!
Dear Listers, It's November 30th and that always means a couple of things. Its my birthday again - 51, so don't reminde me! :-) But it also means that it's that last official day of the Matronics Email List Fund Raiser! If you been thinking about picking up one of those really nice incentive gifts now is the time to jump on it!! If you've been meaning to make a Contribution this month but have been putting it off for some reason, NOW is the time! I will be posting the List of Contributors in a few days, so you'll probably want to be known as a person that supported the Lists! I want to thank everyone that has so generously made a Contribution this year in support of our Lists. It is your generosity that keeps this operation running and I don't ever forget it. The List Contribution Web Site is fast and easy. Please support our habit by making your Contribution right now: http://www.matronics.com/contribution Or, by dropping a personal check in the mail to: Matt Dralle / Matronics 581 Jeannie Way Livermore CA 94550 Thank you to all in advance! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Dec 05, 2014
From: Jim Kress <jim.kress(at)att.net>
Subject: fuel starvation problem while doing a high angle of attack,
power on stall On a training flight yesterday in a Zenith STOL 750 with an 0-200 engine we experienced a short stoppage of the engine while doing a prolonged high angle of attack, power on stall. We had about half tanks of fuel on board. Once the engine quit we lowered the nose and immediately turned on the electric fuel pump. The engine came back to life and the rest of the flight was uneventful. This phenomenon was not experienced during the 40 hour flight testing period. There is a placard advising that the "electric boost pump should be used for takeoff and landing", however perhaps this should be changed to say, " electric boost pump should be used during training maneuvers and low level operations" or something like that. Jim Kress CFII ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Roger Venables" <roger(at)nwtradingpost.com>
Subject: fuel starvation problem while doing a high angle of
attack, power on stall
Date: Dec 05, 2014
Jin As a Zenith 750 builder in an advanced stage of construction let me say thanks for your heads up on this issue I can understand gravity flow stopping when the carb level rises above the fuel tank outlet level, but assuming that the 0-200 engine installation has a mechanical fuel pump, my question is why the electric fuel pump worked when the mechanical fuel pump didn't. Would be interesting to find out also the location of the electrical fuel pump? I can still make changes! Roger Venables From: owner-zenith750-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-zenith750-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim Kress Sent: Friday, December 05, 2014 7:50 AM Subject: Zenith750-List: fuel starvation problem while doing a high angle of attack, power on stall On a training flight yesterday in a Zenith STOL 750 with an 0-200 engine we experienced a short stoppage of the engine while doing a prolonged high angle of attack, power on stall. We had about half tanks of fuel on board. Once the engine quit we lowered the nose and immediately turned on the electric fuel pump. The engine came back to life and the rest of the flight was uneventful. This phenomenon was not experienced during the 40 hour flight testing period. There is a placard advising that the "electric boost pump should be used for takeoff and landing", however perhaps this should be changed to say, " electric boost pump should be used during training maneuvers and low level operations" or something like that. Jim Kress CFII <http://www.buildersbooks.com> ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Dec 06, 2014
Subject: Re: fuel starvation problem while doing a high angle
of attack, power on stall
From: "j. davis" <jwd3ca(at)gmail.com>
What were your pre-first-flight fuel flow numbers at various fuel levels and angles of attack? On 5 Dec 2014 10:52, "Jim Kress" wrote: > On a training flight yesterday in a Zenith STOL 750 with an 0-200 engine > we experienced a short stoppage of the engine while doing a prolonged high > angle of attack, power on stall. We had about half tanks of fuel on > board. Once the engine quit we lowered the nose and immediately turned on > the electric fuel pump. The engine came back to life and the rest of the > flight was uneventful. This phenomenon was not experienced during the 40 > hour flight testing period. > There is a placard advising that the "electric boost pump should be used > for takeoff and landing", however perhaps this should be changed to say, " > electric boost pump should be used during training maneuvers and low level > operations" or something like that. > Jim Kress CFII > > * > > > * > > ________________________________________________________________________________
From: Carl <b.carl(at)sympatico.ca>
Subject: Re: fuel starvation problem while doing a high angle
of attack, power on stall
Date: Dec 07, 2014
INSTALL A COLLECTOR TANK TO ACT AS A BUFFER FOR WHEN YOUR WING TANKS UNCOVER (easily done with fuel low) engine keeps running. Best insurance you ca buy. Carl ----- Original Message ----- From: j. davis To: zenith750-list(at)matronics.com Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2014 5:02 PM Subject: Re: Zenith750-List: fuel starvation problem while doing a high angle of attack, power on stall What were your pre-first-flight fuel flow numbers at various fuel levels and angles of attack? On 5 Dec 2014 10:52, "Jim Kress" wrote: On a training flight yesterday in a Zenith STOL 750 with an 0-200 engine we experienced a short stoppage of the engine while doing a prolonged high angle of attack, power on stall. We had about half tanks of fuel on board. Once the engine quit we lowered the nose and immediately turned on the electric fuel pump. The engine came back to life and the rest of the flight was uneventful. This phenomenon was not experienced during the 40 hour flight testing period. There is a placard advising that the "electric boost pump should be used for takeoff and landing", however perhaps this should be changed to say, " electric boost pump should be used during training maneuvers and low level operations" or something like that. Jim Kress CFII _blank">www.aeroelectric.com .com" target="_blank">www.buildersbooks.com ="_blank">www.homebuilthelp.com ="_blank">www.mypilotstore.com ank">www.mrrace.com _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution " target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Zenith750-List tp://forums.matronics.com ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Dec 07, 2014
Subject: Re: Zenith750-List Digest: 1 Msgs - 12/06/14
From: Bruce Cruikshank <n5959z(at)gmail.com>
Jim, I have a slatless 0-200 powered 750, and use gravity flow, no pumps. I checked the fuel flow at a 15 degree nose high attitude. The last 3 gallons drained in 11.75 minutes or a rate of 15.3 GPH. I have markings on the jury struts that are level with the horizon at 15 degrees nose high. The problem I had was making a nose low descent into a controlled airport trying to keep up with other traffic. The engine quite. As I was flaring to land off airport the engine caught. After landing back at the airport I checked and had 5 gallons of fuel. So I did a test; in a 6 degree nose low attitude there was 5.2 gallons unusable in the 24 gallon tanks. I added a 0.8 gallon header tank behind the pilots head to fix the problem. Many certified high wing airplanes have fuel drains at the front and rear of the tanks. On Sun, Dec 7, 2014 at 12:01 AM, Zenith750-List Digest Server < zenith750-list(at)matronics.com> wrote: > * > > ================================================= > Online Versions of Today's List Digest Archive > ================================================= > > Today's complete Zenith750-List Digest can also be found in either of the > two Web Links listed below. The .html file includes the Digest formatted > in HTML for viewing with a web browser and features Hyperlinked Indexes > and Message Navigation. The .txt file includes the plain ASCII version > of the Zenith750-List Digest and can be viewed with a generic text editor > such as Notepad or with a web browser. > > HTML Version: > > > http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=html&Chapter 14-12-06&Archive=Zenith750 > > Text Version: > > > http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=txt&Chapter 14-12-06&Archive=Zenith750 > > > =============================================== > EMail Version of Today's List Digest Archive > =============================================== > > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > Zenith750-List Digest Archive > --- > Total Messages Posted Sat 12/06/14: 1 > ---------------------------------------------------------- > > > Today's Message Index: > ---------------------- > > 1. 02:02 PM - Re: fuel starvation problem while doing a high angle of > attack, power on stall (j. davis) > > > ________________________________ Message 1 > _____________________________________ > > > Subject: Re: Zenith750-List: fuel starvation problem while doing a high > angle > of attack, power on stall > From: "j. davis" <jwd3ca(at)gmail.com> > > What were your pre-first-flight fuel flow numbers at various fuel levels > and angles of attack? > On 5 Dec 2014 10:52, "Jim Kress" wrote: > > > On a training flight yesterday in a Zenith STOL 750 with an 0-200 engine > > we experienced a short stoppage of the engine while doing a prolonged > high > > angle of attack, power on stall. We had about half tanks of fuel on > > board. Once the engine quit we lowered the nose and immediately turned > on > > the electric fuel pump. The engine came back to life and the rest of the > > flight was uneventful. This phenomenon was not experienced during the 40 > > hour flight testing period. > > There is a placard advising that the "electric boost pump should be used > > for takeoff and landing", however perhaps this should be changed to say, > " > > electric boost pump should be used during training maneuvers and low > level > > operations" or something like that. > > Jim Kress CFII > > > > * > > > > > > * > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Dec 07, 2014
Subject: Re: Zenith750-List Digest: 1 Msgs - 12/06/14
From: "j. davis" <jwd3ca(at)gmail.com>
I've also had this happen, it's certainly something you need to be aware can happen and keep your descent shallow when low on fuel. Having a left/right/both/off fuel selector valve is helpful because you can choose the fuller tank to land with, But the header tank solution is the best solution, something I've had on my to-do list for a long time. I'd be interested in more details of your tank installation. Thanks! On 7 December 2014 at 12:17, Bruce Cruikshank wrote: > Jim, > > I have a slatless 0-200 powered 750, and use gravity flow, no pumps. I > checked the fuel flow at a 15 degree nose high attitude. The last 3 > gallons drained in 11.75 minutes or a rate of 15.3 GPH. I have markings on > the jury struts that are level with the horizon at 15 degrees nose high. > The problem I had was making a nose low descent into a controlled airport > trying to keep up with other traffic. The engine quite. As I was flaring > to land off airport the engine caught. After landing back at the airport I > checked and had 5 gallons of fuel. So I did a test; in a 6 degree nose low > attitude there was 5.2 gallons unusable in the 24 gallon tanks. I added a > 0.8 gallon header tank behind the pilots head to fix the problem. Many > certified high wing airplanes have fuel drains at the front and rear of the > tanks. > > On Sun, Dec 7, 2014 at 12:01 AM, Zenith750-List Digest Server < > zenith750-list(at)matronics.com> wrote: > >> * >> >> ======================== >> Online Versions of Today's List Digest Archive >> ======================== >> >> Today's complete Zenith750-List Digest can also be found in either of the >> two Web Links listed below. The .html file includes the Digest formatted >> in HTML for viewing with a web browser and features Hyperlinked Indexes >> and Message Navigation. The .txt file includes the plain ASCII version >> of the Zenith750-List Digest and can be viewed with a generic text editor >> such as Notepad or with a web browser. >> >> HTML Version: >> >> >> http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=html&Chapter 14-12-06&Archive=Zenith750 >> >> Text Version: >> >> >> http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=txt&Chapter 14-12-06&Archive=Zenith750 >> >> >> ====================== >> EMail Version of Today's List Digest Archive >> ====================== >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------- >> Zenith750-List Digest Archive >> --- >> Total Messages Posted Sat 12/06/14: 1 >> ---------------------------------------------------------- >> >> >> Today's Message Index: >> ---------------------- >> >> 1. 02:02 PM - Re: fuel starvation problem while doing a high angle >> of attack, power on stall (j. davis) >> >> >> >> ________________________________ Message 1 >> _____________________________________ >> >> >> Subject: Re: Zenith750-List: fuel starvation problem while doing a high >> angle >> of attack, power on stall >> From: "j. davis" <jwd3ca(at)gmail.com> >> >> What were your pre-first-flight fuel flow numbers at various fuel levels >> and angles of attack? >> On 5 Dec 2014 10:52, "Jim Kress" wrote: >> >> > On a training flight yesterday in a Zenith STOL 750 with an 0-200 engine >> > we experienced a short stoppage of the engine while doing a prolonged >> high >> > angle of attack, power on stall. We had about half tanks of fuel on >> > board. Once the engine quit we lowered the nose and immediately turned >> on >> > the electric fuel pump. The engine came back to life and the rest of the >> > flight was uneventful. This phenomenon was not experienced during the >> 40 >> > hour flight testing period. >> > There is a placard advising that the "electric boost pump should be used >> > for takeoff and landing", however perhaps this should be changed to >> say, " >> > electric boost pump should be used during training maneuvers and low >> level >> > operations" or something like that. >> > Jim Kress CFII >> > >> > * >> > >> > >> > * >> > >> > >> >> >> >> >> ========== >> br> fts!) >> r> > com" target="_blank">www.aeroelectric.com >> w.buildersbooks.com" target="_blank">www.buildersbooks.com >> p.com" target="_blank">www.homebuilthelp.com >> e.com" target="_blank">www.mypilotstore.com >> " target="_blank">www.mrrace.com >> target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution >> -Matt Dralle, List Admin. >> ========== >> br> th750-List" target="_blank"> >> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Zenith750-List >> ========== >> FORUMS - >> _blank">http://forums.matronics.com >> ========== >> >> >> >> >> > * > > > * > > -- Regards, J. ----------------------------- J. Davis, - Zenith STOL CH750 C-FJNJ: Jab 3300, Whilrwind GA prop, AeroCarb - Sonex #325 (ex)C-FJNJ, Jab 3300a, Prince P-Tip, Aerocarb - former C-IGGY CH701 owner/builder - see these and more at http://cleco.ca ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Dec 24, 2014
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: 2014 List of Contributors
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Date: Jun 08, 2015
Subject: Deciding what to build
From: Terry Davis <davistacm(at)gmail.com>
Hello, This sure is a slow list. I think I want to build a STOL 750 but I would sure like to look at the real thing and talk to the builder before I plunk down the cash. I live in Eastern Oregon and would like to find one within 300 miles or so. So if you can help me out on this please let me know. Terry Davis Baker City, OR ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jun 08, 2015
From: Craig Payne <craig(at)craigandjean.com>
Subject: Re: Deciding what to build
Most of the activity has moved to http://www.zenith.aero/, the company sponsored "social" site. -- Craig On Mon, Jun 8, 2015 at 9:21 PM, Terry Davis wrote: > Hello, > This sure is a slow list. I think I want to build a STOL 750 but I would > sure like to look at the real thing and talk to the builder before I plunk > down the cash. I live in Eastern Oregon and would like to find one within > 300 miles or so. So if you can help me out on this please let me know. > > Terry Davis > Baker City, OR > > * > > > * > > ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Deciding what to build
From: Mike <buells2t(at)gmail.com>
Date: Jun 08, 2015
Mine is a long way from done and we are more than 300 miles. But Dave Edward s is flying the one he built here in North Las Vegas KVGT NV. Mike Sent from my iPad > On Jun 8, 2015, at 9:47 PM, Craig Payne wrote: > > Most of the activity has moved to http://www.zenith.aero/, the company spo nsored "social" site. > > -- Craig > >> On Mon, Jun 8, 2015 at 9:21 PM, Terry Davis wrote: >> Hello, >> This sure is a slow list. I think I want to build a STOL 750 but I would sure like to look at the real thing and talk to the builder before I plunk d own the cash. I live in Eastern Oregon and would like to find one within 30 0 miles or so. So if you can help me out on this please let me know. >> >> Terry Davis >> Baker City, OR >> >> >> " target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Zenith750-List >> tp://forums.matronics.com >> _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution >> > > > 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jun 09, 2015
Subject: Re: Zenith750-List Digest: 3 Msgs - 06/08/15
From: Bruce Cruikshank <n5959z(at)gmail.com>
I have 270 hrs on a 0-200 powered 750 without slats with VG's. If I were to do it over I'd build the cruiser (no brainer). The tail on the Cruiser is a MUCH better design, and it's much clearer and the higher cruise speed also a BIG plus. Mine is close to the slatted version with 129 square feet of wing area, but only about 5 MPH faster. With 144 (whatever it is) and VG's I'm thinking pretty close to the same. Still love flying mine. Bruce On Tue, Jun 9, 2015 at 12:01 AM, Zenith750-List Digest Server < zenith750-list(at)matronics.com> wrote: > * > > ================================================= > Online Versions of Today's List Digest Archive > ================================================= > > Today's complete Zenith750-List Digest can also be found in either of the > two Web Links listed below. The .html file includes the Digest formatted > in HTML for viewing with a web browser and features Hyperlinked Indexes > and Message Navigation. The .txt file includes the plain ASCII version > of the Zenith750-List Digest and can be viewed with a generic text editor > such as Notepad or with a web browser. > > HTML Version: > > > http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=html&Chapter 15-06-08&Archive=Zenith750 > > Text Version: > > > http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=txt&Chapter 15-06-08&Archive=Zenith750 > > > =============================================== > EMail Version of Today's List Digest Archive > =============================================== > > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > Zenith750-List Digest Archive > --- > Total Messages Posted Mon 06/08/15: 3 > ---------------------------------------------------------- > > > Today's Message Index: > ---------------------- > > 1. 09:22 PM - Deciding what to build (Terry Davis) > 2. 09:47 PM - Re: Deciding what to build (Craig Payne) > 3. 11:15 PM - Re: Deciding what to build (Mike) > > > ________________________________ Message 1 > _____________________________________ > > > Subject: Zenith750-List: Deciding what to build > From: Terry Davis <davistacm(at)gmail.com> > > Hello, > This sure is a slow list. I think I want to build a STOL 750 but I would > sure like to look at the real thing and talk to the builder before I plunk > down the cash. I live in Eastern Oregon and would like to find one within > 300 miles or so. So if you can help me out on this please let me know. > > Terry Davis > Baker City, OR > > ________________________________ Message 2 > _____________________________________ > > > From: Craig Payne <craig(at)craigandjean.com> > Subject: Re: Zenith750-List: Deciding what to build > > Most of the activity has moved to http://www.zenith.aero/, the company > sponsored "social" site. > > -- Craig > > On Mon, Jun 8, 2015 at 9:21 PM, Terry Davis wrote: > > > Hello, > > This sure is a slow list. I think I want to build a STOL 750 but I would > > sure like to look at the real thing and talk to the builder before I > plunk > > down the cash. I live in Eastern Oregon and would like to find one > within > > 300 miles or so. So if you can help me out on this please let me know. > > > > Terry Davis > > Baker City, OR > > > > * > > > > > > * > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 3 > _____________________________________ > > > Subject: Re: Zenith750-List: Deciding what to build > From: Mike <buells2t(at)gmail.com> > > Mine is a long way from done and we are more than 300 miles. But Dave > Edward > s is flying the one he built here in North Las Vegas KVGT NV. > > Mike > > Sent from my iPad > > > On Jun 8, 2015, at 9:47 PM, Craig Payne wrote: > > > > Most of the activity has moved to http://www.zenith.aero/, the company > spo > nsored "social" site. > > > > -- Craig > > > >> On Mon, Jun 8, 2015 at 9:21 PM, Terry Davis > wrote: > >> Hello, > >> This sure is a slow list. I think I want to build a STOL 750 but I > would > sure like to look at the real thing and talk to the builder before I > plunk d > own the cash. I live in Eastern Oregon and would like to find one within > 30 > 0 miles or so. So if you can help me out on this please let me know. > >> > >> Terry Davis > >> Baker City, OR > >> > >> > >> " target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Zenith750-List > >> tp://forums.matronics.com > >> _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution > >> > > > > > > > 3D===============3 > D============== > ============== > 3D===============3 > D============== > ============== > 3D===============3 > D============== > ============== > 3D===============3 > D============== > ============== > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jun 09, 2015
From: David Josephson <dlj04(at)josephson.com>
Subject: Re: Zenith750-List Digest: 3 Msgs - 06/08/15
On 6/9/15 12:01 AM, Zenith750-List Digest Server wrote: > Subject: Zenith750-List: Deciding what to build > From: Terry Davis <davistacm(at)gmail.com> > > Hello, > This sure is a slow list. I think I want to build a STOL 750 but I would > sure like to look at the real thing and talk to the builder before I plunk > down the cash. I live in Eastern Oregon and would like to find one within > 300 miles or so. So if you can help me out on this please let me know. It's 700 miles, but will be worth it. Go see Doug Dugger at Quality Sport Planes in Cloverdale, Calif. Or call him 707-894-4084 and see if there is someone closer, he would know. He has a 750 Cruzer in the crate and at least one STOL 750 that he built and will demo. And, definitely check out the zenith.aero forums where you will find more folks building and flying 750s. David Josephson Santa Cruz CA ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jun 09, 2015
Subject: Thanks
From: Terry Davis <davistacm(at)gmail.com>
Thank you Mike and Craig for writing back. I started with this list because I was familiar with the matronics lists after building a Firestar with the help of the Kolb list. I will try the company site now. I'm sure I can find one to look at fairly close by, probably over in southern Idaho. Terry ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jun 10, 2015
From: Frank Stutzman <stutzman(at)stutzman.com>
Subject: Re: Thanks
On Tue, 9 Jun 2015, Terry Davis wrote: > Thank you Mike and Craig for writing back. I started with this list because > I was familiar with the matronics lists after building a Firestar with the > help of the Kolb list. I will try the company site now. I'm sure I can > find one to look at fairly close by, probably over in southern Idaho. Terry, Don't label me as authoratative, but I live in Boise and am unaware of any 750's under construction. Several 701s, many flying, but no 750s. When I visted the Missouri factory two years ago they gave me a listing of where they had shipped kits. Off the top of my head, seems like the closest one was in Montana. Thats no doubt dated information now, though. If you do proceed with a 750, I'd love to see your progress. I am still unfortunately several years away from my own project. Frank Stutzman Bonanza N494B "Hula Girl" Boise, ID

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Date: Jun 10, 2015
From: Craig Payne <craig(at)craigandjean.com>
Subject: Re: Thanks
It is beyond your 300 mile limit but your best bet would be to visit Zenith's west coast dealer, Quality Sport Planes in Cloverdale, CA http://www.qualitysportplanes.com/ They also plan to be at the Arlington Fly-in in July. -- Craig On Wed, Jun 10, 2015 at 5:13 AM, Frank Stutzman wrote: > On Tue, 9 Jun 2015, Terry Davis wrote: > > Thank you Mike and Craig for writing back. I started with this list >> because >> I was familiar with the matronics lists after building a Firestar with the >> help of the Kolb list. I will try the company site now. I'm sure I can >> find one to look at fairly close by, probably over in southern Idaho. >> > > Terry, > > Don't label me as authoratative, but I live in Boise and am unaware of any > 750's under construction. Several 701s, many flying, but no 750s. When I > visted the Missouri factory two years ago they gave me a listing of where > they had shipped kits. Off the top of my head, seems like the closest one > was in Montana. Thats no doubt dated information now, though. > > If you do proceed with a 750, I'd love to see your progress. I am still > unfortunately several years away from my own project. > > Frank Stutzman > Bonanza N494B "Hula Girl" > Boise, ID > >
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Date: Jun 14, 2015
From: Donald Koehnlein <mustangg40(at)yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Zenith750-List Digest: 2 Msgs - 06/10/15
I am not yet a builder nor owner of a Zenith. I am also interested in the Zenith 750 cruiser. Is there a group that will let want a be's listen in on the discussions. Also how can I find out local builders so I can see a project. Don Koehnlein Mesa, AZ -------------------------------------------- On Thu, 6/11/15, Zenith750-List Digest Server wrote: Subject: Zenith750-List Digest: 2 Msgs - 06/10/15 To: "Zenith750-List Digest List" Date: Thursday, June 11, 2015, 12:01 AM * ================================================= Online Versions of Today's List Digest Archive ================================================= Today's complete Zenith750-List Digest can also be found in either of the two Web Links listed below. The .html file includes the Digest formatted in HTML for viewing with a web browser and features Hyperlinked Indexes and Message Navigation. The .txt file includes the plain ASCII version of the Zenith750-List Digest and can be viewed with a generic text editor such as Notepad or with a web browser. HTML Version: http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=html&Chapter 15-06-10&Archive=Zenith750 Text Version: http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=txt&Chapter 15-06-10&Archive=Zenith750 =============================================== EMail Version of Today's List Digest Archive =============================================== ---------------------------------------------------------- Zenith750-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Wed 06/10/15: 2 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 05:13 AM - Re: Thanks (Frank Stutzman) 2. 08:59 AM - Re: Thanks (Craig Payne) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ From: Frank Stutzman <stutzman(at)stutzman.com> Subject: Re: Zenith750-List: Thanks On Tue, 9 Jun 2015, Terry Davis wrote: > Thank you Mike and Craig for writing back. I started with this list because > I was familiar with the matronics lists after building a Firestar with the > help of the Kolb list. I will try the company site now. I'm sure I can > find one to look at fairly close by, probably over in southern Idaho. Terry, Don't label me as authoratative, but I live in Boise and am unaware of any 750's under construction. Several 701s, many flying, but no 750s. When I visted the Missouri factory two years ago they gave me a listing of where they had shipped kits. Off the top of my head, seems like the closest one was in Montana. Thats no doubt dated information now, though. If you do proceed with a 750, I'd love to see your progress. I am still unfortunately several years away from my own project. Frank Stutzman Bonanza N494B "Hula Girl" Boise, ID

________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ From: Craig Payne <craig(at)craigandjean.com> Subject: Re: Zenith750-List: Thanks It is beyond your 300 mile limit but your best bet would be to visit Zenith's west coast dealer, Quality Sport Planes in Cloverdale, CA http://www.qualitysportplanes.com/ They also plan to be at the Arlington Fly-in in July. -- Craig On Wed, Jun 10, 2015 at 5:13 AM, Frank Stutzman wrote: > On Tue, 9 Jun 2015, Terry Davis wrote: > > Thank you Mike and Craig for writing back. I started with this list >> because >> I was familiar with the matronics lists after building a Firestar with the >> help of the Kolb list.I will try the company site now. I'm sure I can >> find one to look at fairly close by, probably over in southern Idaho. >> > > Terry, > > Don't label me as authoratative, but I live in Boise and am unaware of any > 750's under construction. Several 701s, many flying, but no 750s. When I > visted the Missouri factory two years ago they gave me a listing of where > they had shipped kits. Off the top of my head, seems like the closest one > was in Montana. Thats no doubt dated information now, though. > > If you do proceed with a 750, I'd love to see your progress. I am still > unfortunately several years away from my own project. > > Frank Stutzman > Bonanza N494B "Hula Girl" > Boise, ID > >
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Date: Jun 14, 2015
From: Donald Koehnlein <mustangg40(at)yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Zenith750-List Digest: 2 Msgs - 06/10/15
I am not yet a builder nor owner of a Zenith. I am also interested in the Zenith 750 cruiser. Is there a group that will let want a be's listen in on the discussions. Also how can I find out local builders so I can see a project. Don Koehnlein Mesa, AZ -------------------------------------------- On Thu, 6/11/15, Zenith750-List Digest Server wrote: Subject: Zenith750-List Digest: 2 Msgs - 06/10/15 To: "Zenith750-List Digest List" Date: Thursday, June 11, 2015, 12:01 AM * ================================================= Online Versions of Today's List Digest Archive ================================================= Today's complete Zenith750-List Digest can also be found in either of the two Web Links listed below. The .html file includes the Digest formatted in HTML for viewing with a web browser and features Hyperlinked Indexes and Message Navigation. The .txt file includes the plain ASCII version of the Zenith750-List Digest and can be viewed with a generic text editor such as Notepad or with a web browser. HTML Version: http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=html&Chapter 15-06-10&Archive=Zenith750 Text Version: http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=txt&Chapter 15-06-10&Archive=Zenith750 =============================================== EMail Version of Today's List Digest Archive =============================================== ---------------------------------------------------------- Zenith750-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Wed 06/10/15: 2 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 05:13 AM - Re: Thanks (Frank Stutzman) 2. 08:59 AM - Re: Thanks (Craig Payne) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ From: Frank Stutzman <stutzman(at)stutzman.com> Subject: Re: Zenith750-List: Thanks On Tue, 9 Jun 2015, Terry Davis wrote: > Thank you Mike and Craig for writing back. I started with this list because > I was familiar with the matronics lists after building a Firestar with the > help of the Kolb list. I will try the company site now. I'm sure I can > find one to look at fairly close by, probably over in southern Idaho. Terry, Don't label me as authoratative, but I live in Boise and am unaware of any 750's under construction. Several 701s, many flying, but no 750s. When I visted the Missouri factory two years ago they gave me a listing of where they had shipped kits. Off the top of my head, seems like the closest one was in Montana. Thats no doubt dated information now, though. If you do proceed with a 750, I'd love to see your progress. I am still unfortunately several years away from my own project. Frank Stutzman Bonanza N494B "Hula Girl" Boise, ID

________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ From: Craig Payne <craig(at)craigandjean.com> Subject: Re: Zenith750-List: Thanks It is beyond your 300 mile limit but your best bet would be to visit Zenith's west coast dealer, Quality Sport Planes in Cloverdale, CA http://www.qualitysportplanes.com/ They also plan to be at the Arlington Fly-in in July. -- Craig On Wed, Jun 10, 2015 at 5:13 AM, Frank Stutzman wrote: > On Tue, 9 Jun 2015, Terry Davis wrote: > > Thank you Mike and Craig for writing back. I started with this list >> because >> I was familiar with the matronics lists after building a Firestar with the >> help of the Kolb list.I will try the company site now. I'm sure I can >> find one to look at fairly close by, probably over in southern Idaho. >> > > Terry, > > Don't label me as authoratative, but I live in Boise and am unaware of any > 750's under construction. Several 701s, many flying, but no 750s. When I > visted the Missouri factory two years ago they gave me a listing of where > they had shipped kits. Off the top of my head, seems like the closest one > was in Montana. Thats no doubt dated information now, though. > > If you do proceed with a 750, I'd love to see your progress. I am still > unfortunately several years away from my own project. > > Frank Stutzman > Bonanza N494B "Hula Girl" > Boise, ID > >
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Email Forum - - MATRONICS WEB FORUMS - List Contribution Web Site - -Matt Dralle, List Admin. ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jun 15, 2015
From: dlj04 <dlj04(at)josephson.com>
Subject: Re: Zenith750-List Digest: 2 Msgs - 06/14/15
On 6/15/2015 12:02 AM, Zenith750-List Digest Server wrote: > From: Donald Koehnlein <mustangg40(at)yahoo.com> > Subject: Zenith750-List: Re: Zenith750-List Digest: 2 Msgs - 06/10/15 > > > I am not yet a builder nor owner of a Zenith. I am also interested in the Zenith > 750 cruiser. Is there a group that will let want a be's listen in on the discussions. > Also how can I find out local builders so I can see a project. > > Don Koehnlein > Mesa, AZ > ----------------- You can find a lot of 750 discussions on homebuiltairplanes.com including a couple of ongoing build reports. I think you can join the forum at zenith.aero. Although it says for "active builders" I don't think they check. Just don't ask wannnabe questions that you could easily find the answers to in the archives, and especially don't give wannabe answers (there are already plenty of people with lots of opinions and no aircraft experience) and you'll be okay. There is another group zenvair.freeforums.net that is all about Zenith airplanes with Corvair engines, they will let you join as a guest reader if you have Zenith plans and a Corvair conversion manual (which is not as silly an option as it might seem.) If you are a first time homebuilder, don't be too narrow in your learning. There is a lot in common among all of the Zenith designs, so you should be looking at 601/650, 701 and 750 STOL projects too. Many of the parts are identical and the workflow is the same, the tradeoffs among the high wing models are exactly what you would expect. Your best close source of info, although I think he sold his plane, is Dr. Andy Elliott of Mesa. He built a 601, instrumented and flew it a lot. Tom Butler in Payson and Tod Nutall in Gilbert are building 750s, according to the Zenith site. I am about half done building a Cruzer and am having a good time with it. You're welcome to visit if you visit the central Calif coast. If you aren't ready to buy the plans or the kit yet, you should buy Chris Heintz' book, see www.flyingonyourownwings.com and you will learn a lot about design and about Zenith's philosophy from that. Otherwise feel free to ask questions here. David Josephson ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "George Race" <mykitairplane(at)mrrace.com>
Subject: Items For Your Airplane Build
Date: Sep 06, 2015
Earlier this year I had to stop making parts, health issues got in the way. Just to let you all know, I am back making airpland parts kits again, have even added some new ones! You can find the details at www.mrrace.com/products/ All the best, George ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Sep 07, 2015
From: joseph hanz <jlhanz1(at)yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Items For Your Airplane Build
Hi George, Glad you are back. Sorry about your health issues. I am also going through some now also. Will send you pictures of the panel you cut out for me. Wish you the best. From: George Race <mykitairplane(at)mrrace.com> To: zenith750-list(at)matronics.com Sent: Sunday, September 6, 2015 11:21 AM Subject: Zenith750-List: Items For Your Airplane Build Earlier this year I had to stop making parts, health iss ues got in the way. =C2-Just to let you all know, I am back making airpla nd parts kits again, have even added some new ones! =C2-You can find the details at www.mrrace.com/products/ =C2-All the best,George ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 01, 2015
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: PLEASE READ - Matronics Email List Fund Raiser During
November! Dear Listers, Each November I hold a PBS-like fund raiser to support the continued operation and upgrade of the Email List and Fourm Services at Matronics. It's solely through the Contributions of List members (you) that these Matronics Lists are possible. You have probably noticed that there are no banner ads or pop-up windows on any of the Matronics Lists or related web sites such as the Forums site http://forums.matronics.com , Wiki site http://wiki.matronics.com , or other related pages such as the List Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search , List Browse http://www.matronics.com/listbrowse , etc. This is because I believe in a List experience that is completely about the sport we all enjoy - namely Airplanes and not about annoying advertisements. During the month of November I will be sending out List messages every couple of days reminding everyone that the Fund Raiser is underway. I ask for your patience and understanding during the Fund Raiser and throughout these regular messages. The Fund Raiser is only financial support mechanism I have to pay all of the bills associated with running these lists. YOUR personal Contribution counts! This year we have a really HUGE and TERRIFIC line up of free gifts to go along with the various Contribution levels. In fact, there are over 22 different gifts to choose from! There's something for everyone, to be sure. Most all of these gifts have been provided by some of the vary members and vendors that you'll find on the Matronics Lists and they have been either donated or provided at substantially discounted rates. This year, these generous members include: Andy Gold of the Builder's Bookstore http://www.buildersbooks.com Andy is a very generous guy and I encourage you to visit his web site. I would like publicly to thank Andy for his generous support of the Lists again this year!! Please make your List Contribution using any one of three secure methods including using a credit card, PayPal, or by personal check. All three methods afford you the opportunity to select one of this year's free gifts with a qualifying Contribution amount!! To make your Contribution, please visit the secure web site: http://www.matronics.com/contribution I would like to thank everyone in advance for their generous financial AND moral support over the years! Thank you! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator RV-4/RV-6/RV-8 Builder/Rebuilder/Pilot ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 04, 2015
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Please Make A Contribution To Support Your Lists
Dear Listers, There is no advertising income to support the Matronics Email Lists and Forums. The operation is supported 100% by your personal Contributions during the November Fund Raiser. Please make your Contribution today to support the continued operation and upgrade of these services. You can pick up a really nice gift for making your Contribution too! You may use a Credit Card or Paypal at the Matronics Contribution Site here: http://www.matronics.com/contribution or, you can send a personal check to the following address: Matronics / Matt Dralle 581 Jeannie Way Livermore, CA 94550 Thank you in advance for your generous support! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List and Forum Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 05, 2015
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Coming Soon - The List of Contributors - Please Make A
Contribution Today! Each year at the end of the List Fund Raiser, I post a message acknowledging everyone that so generously made a Contribution to support the Lists. Its my way of publicly thanking everyone that took a minute to show their appreciation for the Lists. Please take a moment and assure that your name is on that List of Contributors (LOC)! As a number of members have pointed out over the years, the List seems at least as valuable a building / entertainment tool as your typical magazine subscription! Assure that your name is on this year's LOC! Show others that you appreciate the Lists. Making a Contribution to support the Lists is fast and easy using your Credit card or Paypal on the Secure Web Site: http://www.matronics.com/contribution or by dropping a personal check in the mail to: Matt Dralle / Matronics 581 Jeannie Way Livermore CA 94550 I would like to thank everyone that has so generously made a Contribution thus far in this year's List Fund Raiser! Remember that its YOUR support that keeps these Lists going and improving! Don't forget to include a little comment about how the Lists have helped you! Best regards, Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 07, 2015
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Please Make a Contribution to Support Your Lists...
Dear Listers, Just a reminder that November is the Annual List Fund Raiser. Please make a Contribution today to support the continued operation and upgrade of these great List services!! Pick up a really nice free gift with your qualifying Contribution too! The Contribution Site is fast and easy: http://www.matronics.com/contribution or by dropping a personal check in the mail to: Matt Dralle / Matronics 581 Jeannie Way Livermore CA 94551-0347 Thank you! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 09, 2015
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: A List Contribution - It's Your Personal Squelch Button...
There is an automatic "squelch button" of sorts for the Fund Raiser messages. Here's how it works... As soon as a List member makes a Contribution through the Matronics Fund Raiser web site, their email address is automatically added to this year's Contributor List and they instantly cease to receive further Fund Raiser messages for the rest of the month! Its just that simple! :-) I really do appreciate each and every one of your individual Contributions to support the Lists. It is your support that enables me to upgrade the hardware and software that are required to run a List Site such as this one. It also goes to pay for the commercial-grade Internet connection and to pay the huge electric bill to keep the computer gear running and the air conditioner powered on. I run all of the Matronics Email List and Forums sites here locally which allows me to control and monitor every aspect of the system for the utmost in reliably and performance. Your personal Contribution matters because, when combined with other Listers such as yourself, it pays the bills to keep this site up and running. I accept exactly ZERO advertising dollars for the Matronics Lists sites. I can't stand the pop-up ads and all other commercials that are so prevalent on the Internet these days and I particularly don't want to have it on my Email List sites. If you appreciate the ad-free, grass-roots, down-home feel of the Matronics Email Lists, please make a Contribution to keep it that way!! http://www.matronics.com/contribution or, you can send a personal check to the following address: Matronics / Matt Dralle 581 Jeannie Way Livermore, CA 94550 Thank you! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator [Note that there are certain circumstances where you might still see a Contribution related message. For example, if someone replies to one of the messages, when using the List Browse feature, or when accessing List message via the Forum. The system keys on the given email address and since most of these are anonymous public access methods, there is no simple way to filter them.] ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 11, 2015
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: [PLEASE READ] Why I Have A Fund Raiser...
Since the beginning, the Matronics List and Forum experience has been free from advertising. I have been approached by fair number of vendors wanting to tap into the large volume of activity across the various lists hosted here, but have always flatly refused. Everywhere you go on the Internet these days, a user is pummeled with flashing banners and videos and ads for crap that they don't want. Yahoo, Google and that ilk are not "free". The user must constantly endure their barrage of commercialism thrust into their face at an ever increasing rate. Enough is enough, and the Lists at Matronics choose not to succumb to that. That being said, running a service of this size is not "free". It costs a lot of money to maintain the hardware, pay for the electricity, air conditioning, maintenance contracts, etc, etc. etc. I choose to hold a PBS-like fund raiser each year during the month of November where I simply send out a short email every other day asking the members to make a small contribution to support the operation. That being said, that contribution is completely voluntary and non-compulsory. Many members choose not to contribute and that's fine. However, a very modest percentage of the members do choose to make a contribution and it is that financial support that keeps the Lists running. And that's it. To my way of thinking, it is a much more pleasant way of maintaining the Lists and Forums. The other 11 months of the year, you don't see a single advertisement or request for support. That's refreshing and that is a List and Forum that I want to belong to. I think other people feel the same way. Won't you please take a minute to make your Contribution today and support these Lists? http://www.matronics.com/contribution Or, drop a personal check in the mail to: Matt Dralle / Matronics 581 Jeannie Way Livermore CA 94550 USA Thank you for your support! Matt Dralle Email List Admin. ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 13, 2015
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Make Sure You're Listed! List of Contributors Published
in December! Dear Listers, The List of Contributors (LOC) is just around the corner! In December I post a list of everyone that so generously made a Contribution to support the Lists. Its my way of publicly thanking everyone that took a minute to show their appreciation for the Lists. Won't you take minute and assure that your name is on the upcoming LOC? Tell others that you appreciate the Lists. Making a Contribution to support the Lists is fast and easy using your Visa, MasterCard, or Paypal account: http://www.matronics.com/contribution Or, drop a personal check in the mail to: Matt Dralle / Matronics 581 Jeannie Way Livermore CA 94550 USA I would like to thank everyone that has so generously made a Contribution thus far during this year's List Fund Raiser! Remember that its YOUR support that keeps these Lists running and improving! Don't forget to include a little comment about how the Lists have helped you! Thank you! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 15, 2015
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Reminder
Dear Listers, A quick reminder that November is the annual Matronics List Fund Raiser. The Lists are 100% member supported and all of the operational costs are covered solely through your Contributions during this time of the year. *Your* personal Contribution makes a difference and keeps all of the Matronics Email Lists and Forums completely ad-free. Please make your Contribution today to keep these services up and running for another great year! Use a credit card or your PayPal account here: http://www.matronics.com/contribution Or, by sending a personal check to: Matronics / Matt Dralle 581 Jeannie Way Livermore CA 94550 Thank you in advance! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List and Forum Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 16, 2015
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: List Contribution - Value of the List...
If you look forward to checking your List email everyday (and a lot of you have written to say that you do!), then you're probably getting at least $20 or $30 worth of Entertainment from the Lists each year. You'd pay twice that for a subscription to some magazine or even a dinner out. Isn't the List worth at least that much to you? Wouldn't it be great if you could pay that amount and get a well-managed media source free of advertising, SPAM, and viruses? Come to think of it, you do... :-) Won't you please take a minute to make your Contribution today and support these Lists? http://www.matronics.com/contribution Or, drop a personal check in the mail to: Matt Dralle / Matronics 581 Jeannie Way Livermore CA 94550 USA I want to say THANK YOU to everyone that has made a Contribution thus far during this year's List Fund Raiser!! These Lists are made possible exclusively through YOUR generosity!! Thank you for your support! Matt Dralle Email List Admin. ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 18, 2015
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: What's Your Contribution Used For?
Dear Listers, You might have wondered at some point, "What's my Contribution used for?" Here are just a few examples of what your direct List support enables... It provides for the expensive, commercial-grade Internet connection used on the List. It pays for the regular system hardware and software upgrades enabling the highest performance possible for List services such as the Archive Search Engine, List Browser, and the Web Forums. It pays for the over 23 years of on-line archive data always available for instant search and access. And, it offsets the many hours spent writing, developing, and maintaining the custom applications that power these List Service such as the List Browse, Search Engine, Forums, and Wiki. But most importantly, your List Contribution enables a forum where you and your peers can communicate freely in an environment that is free from moderation, censorship, advertising, commercialism, SPAM, and computer viruses. It is YOUR CONTRIBUTION that directly enables all these aspects of Matronics List services. Please support it today with your List Contribution. Its one of the best investments you can make in your Sport! List Contribution Web Site: http://www.matronics.com/contribution or, you can send a personal check to the following address: Matronics / Matt Dralle 581 Jeannie Way Livermore, CA 94550 Thank you for your support! Matt Dralle Email List Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 20, 2015
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Please Make a Contribution to Support Your Lists...
Dear Listers, Just a reminder that November is the Annual List Fund Raiser. Please make a Contribution today to support the continued operation and upgrade of these great List services!! Pick up a really nice free gift with your qualifying Contribution too! The Contribution Site is fast and easy: http://www.matronics.com/contribution or by dropping a personal check in the mail to: Matt Dralle / Matronics 581 Jeannie Way Livermore CA 94550 Thank you! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 22, 2015
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Coming Soon - The List of Contributors - Please Make A
Contribution Today! Each year at the end of the List Fund Raiser, I post a message acknowledging everyone that so generously made a Contribution to support the Lists. Its my way of publicly thanking everyone that took a minute to show their appreciation for the Lists. Please take a moment and assure that your name is on that List of Contributors (LOC)! As a number of members have pointed out over the years, the List seems at least as valuable a building / entertainment tool as your typical magazine subscription! Assure that your name is on this year's LOC! Show others that you appreciate the Lists. Making a Contribution to support the Lists is fast and easy using your Credit card or Paypal on the Secure Web Site: http://www.matronics.com/contribution or by dropping a personal check in the mail to: Matt Dralle / Matronics 581 Jeannie Way Livermore CA 94550 I would like to thank everyone that has so generously made a Contribution thus far in this year's List Fund Raiser! Remember that its YOUR support that keeps these Lists going and improving! Don't forget to include a little comment about how the Lists have helped you! Best regards, Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 23, 2015
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Fund Raiser Behind By 22% - Please Contribute Today!
Dear Listers, The percentage of members making a Contribution to support the Lists this year is currently behind last year by at this time by roughly 22%. Please take this opportunity to show your support for the Matronics Lists and Forums! Please remember that it is *solely* your direct Contributions that keep these Lists and Forums up and running and most importantly - AD FREE! If the members don't want to support the Lists directly, then I might have to add advertisements to offset the costs of running the Lists. But I don't want to have to do that. I really like the non-commercial atmosphere here and I think that a lot of the members appreciate that too. Please take a moment to make a Contribution today in support of the continued ad-free operation of all these Lists: http://www.matronics.com/contribution Or, drop a personal check in the mail to: Matt Dralle / Matronics 581 Jeannie Way Livermore CA 94550 USA I want to send out a word of appreciation to all of the members that have already made their generous Contribution to support the Lists! Thank you! Matt Dralle Email List and Forums Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 24, 2015
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Just A Few Days Left...
Dear Listers, There are just a few days left for this year's List Fund Raiser. If you've been putting off making a Contribution until the last minute, well, this is it! The last minute, that is... :-) There are some GREAT new gift selections to choose from this year. I personally want at least three of them! There's probably something you can't live without too! And, best of all it supports your Lists! Please remember that there isn't any sort of commercial advertising on the Lists and the *only* means of keeping these Lists running is through your Contributions during this Fund Raiser. Let's make this a "Black Friday" for the Lists! Please make a Contribution today! http://www.matronics.com/contribution Or, drop a personal check in the mail to: Matt Dralle / Matronics 581 Jeannie Way Livermore CA 94550 Thank you! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 25, 2015
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: What Are You Thankful For...?
Dear Listers, Here in the United States, Thursday is our National day of Thanksgiving. Many of us will be traveling to be with our families and friends to share in generous feasts of plenty and giving thanks for the many blessings that have been bestowed upon us. Many Listers have expressed over the last couple of weeks how thankful they are for the Email Lists and Forums here on the Matronics servers and for all of the assistance and comradery they have experienced being a part of the Lists. One of my favorite comments is when someone writes to me and says something like, "Its the first thing I do in the morning while I'm having my morning coffee!". That's a wonderful tribute to the purpose and function of these Lists. Its always great to hear I'm not the only one that jumps out of bed each morning to check my List email!! Won't you take a minute today and show your appreciation for these Lists and for their continued operation and upgrade? The List Contribution Site is: http://www.matronics.com/contribution Or, drop a personal check in the mail to: Matt Dralle / Matronics 581 Jeannie Way Livermore CA 94550 USA Thank you in advance for your kind consideration, Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 27, 2015
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Make Sure You're Listed! List of Contributors Coming
Soon! Dear Listers, There's just three more days left in this year's List Fund Raiser and that means the List of Contributors (LOC) is just around the corner! In December I post a list of everyone that so generously made a Contribution to support the Lists. Its my way of publicly thanking everyone that took a minute to show their appreciation for the Lists. Won't you take minute and assure that your name is on the upcoming LOC? Tell others that you appreciate the Lists. Making a Contribution to support the Lists is fast and easy using your Visa, MasterCard, or Paypal account: http://www.matronics.com/contribution Or, drop a personal check in the mail to: Matt Dralle / Matronics 581 Jeannie Way Livermore CA 94550 I would like to thank everyone that has so generously made a Contribution thus far during this year's List Fund Raiser! Remember that its YOUR support that keeps these Lists running and improving! Don't forget to include a little comment about how the Lists have helped you! Thank you! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 28, 2015
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Fund Raiser - Just Two Days Left! - Still Well Behind...
Dear Listers, There are just two more full days left in this year's List Fund Raiser. Over the last couple of weeks I have received some really nice comments from members on what the Lists have meant to them and I really appreciate the feedback! At this point, unfortunately, we are still well behind last year in total Contributions to support the continued operation of these services. I really want to keep providing these Lists and Forums to the home built community, but it takes resources. Since there's no advertising budget or deep pockets to keep the operation a float, it's *solely your generosity* during the yearly Fund Raiser that keeps things going. Please make a Contribution today so that I can keep the bills paid and the services and systems turned on. If you've been putting off showing your support for the Lists, now is the time to do it! To make a contribution with a Credit Card or though PayPal at that Matronics Contribution web site: http://www.matronics.com/contribution Or, drop a check in the mail: Matronics / Matt Dralle 581 Jeannie Way Livermore, CA 94550 USA Thank you in advance for your support! It is very much appreciated... Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 29, 2015
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: [PLEASE READ] Why I Have A Fund Raiser...
Since the beginning, the Matronics List and Forum experience has been free from advertising. I have been approached by fair number of vendors wanting to tap into the large volume of activity across the various lists hosted here, but have always flatly refused. Everywhere you go on the Internet these days, a user is pummeled with flashing banners and videos and ads for crap that they don't want. Yahoo, Google and that elk are not "free". The user must constantly endure their barrage of commercialism thrust into their face at an ever increasing rate. Enough is enough, and the Lists at Matronics choose not to succumb to that. That being said, running a service of this size is not "free". It costs a lot of money to maintain the hardware, pay for the electricity, air conditioning, maintenance contracts, etc, etc. etc. I choose to hold a PBS-like fund raiser each year during the month of November where I simply send out a short email every other day asking the members to make a small contribution to support the operation. That being said, that contribution is completely voluntary and non-compulsory. Many members choose not to contribute and that's fine. However, a very modest percentage of the members do choose to make a contribution and it is that financial support that keeps the Lists running. And that's it. To my way of thinking, it is a much more pleasant way of maintaining the Lists and Forums. The other 11 months of the year, you don't see a single advertisement or request for support. That's refreshing and that is a List and Forum that I want to belong to. I think other people feel the same way. Won't you please take a minute to make your Contribution today and support these Lists? http://www.matronics.com/contribution Or, drop a personal check in the mail to: Matt Dralle / Matronics 581 Jeannie Way Livermore CA 94550 USA Thank you for your support! Matt Dralle Email List Admin. ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 29, 2015
From: joseph hanz <jlhanz1(at)yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [PLEASE READ] Why I Have A Fund Raiser...
please remove me from list. From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> To: zenith750-list(at)matronics.com Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2015 12:33 PM Subject: Zenith750-List: [PLEASE READ] Why I Have A Fund Raiser... Since the beginning, the Matronics List and Forum experience has been free from advertising.=C2- I have been approached by fair number of vendors wa nting to tap into the large volume of activity across the various lists hos ted here, but have always flatly refused.=C2- Everywhere you go on the In ternet these days, a user is pummeled with flashing banners and videos and ads for crap that they don't want.=C2- Yahoo, Google and that elk are not "free".=C2- The user must constantly endure their barrage of commerciali sm thrust into their face at an ever increasing rate.=C2- Enough is enoug h, and the Lists at Matronics choose not to succumb to that. That being said, running a service of this size is not "free".=C2- It cos ts a lot of money to maintain the hardware, pay for the electricity, air co nditioning, maintenance contracts, etc, etc. etc.=C2- I choose to hold a PBS-like fund raiser each year during the month of November where I simply send out a short email every other day asking the members to make a small c ontribution to support the operation.=C2- That being said, that contribut ion is completely voluntary and non-compulsory.=C2- Many members choose n ot to contribute and that's fine. However, a very modest percentage of the members do choose to make a contri bution and it is that financial support that keeps the Lists running.=C2- And that's it.=C2- To my way of thinking, it is a much more pleasant way of maintaining the Lists and Forums.=C2- The other 11 months of the year , you don't see a single advertisement or request for support.=C2- That's refreshing and that is a List and Forum that I want to belong to.=C2- I think other people feel the same way. Won't you please take a minute to make your Contribution today and support these Lists? =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- http://www.matronics.com/contribution Or, drop a personal check in the mail to: =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- Matt Dralle / Matronics =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- 581 Jeannie Way =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- Livermore CA 94550 =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- USA Thank you for your support! Matt Dralle Email List Admin. =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- -Matt Dralle, List Admin. S - - =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- -Matt Dralle, List Admin. ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 30, 2015
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: [Please Read] - Last Official Day of List Fund Raiser!
Dear Listers, It's November 30th and that always means a couple of things. Its my birthday again - 52, so don't remind me! :-) But it also means that it's that last official day of the Matronics Email List Fund Raiser! If you been thinking about picking up one of those really nice incentive gifts now is the time to jump on it!! If you've been meaning to make a Contribution this month but have been putting it off for some reason, NOW is the time! I will be posting the List of Contributors in a few days, so you'll probably want to be known as a person that supported the Lists! I want to thank everyone that has so generously made a Contribution this year in support of our Lists. It is your generosity that keeps this operation running and I don't ever forget it. The List Contribution Web Site is fast and easy. Please support our habit by making your Contribution right now: http://www.matronics.com/contribution Or, by dropping a personal check in the mail to: Matt Dralle / Matronics 581 Jeannie Way Livermore CA 94550 USA Thank you in advance! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Dec 19, 2015
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Auction For P113 eMag To Support Matronics List Fund Raiser
Dear Listers, Bob Nuckolls of the AeroElectric fame has generously put a new eMag P113 electronic 4-cylinder mag up for sale on EBay. Bob has pledged to donate all of the proceeds from this auction in support of this year's Matronics Fund Raiser. If you are in the market for one of these great electronic ignitions (I have two eMags on my RV-8 and love them), please bid on this one! http://www.ebay.com/itm/151920582478 Thank you in advance! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Dec 19, 2015
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: 2015 List of Contributors
Dear Listers, The 2015 Matronics Email List and Forum Fund Raiser officially ended a couple of weeks ago and it's time that I published this year's List of Contributors. It is the people on this list that directly make these Email Lists and Forums possible! Their generous Contributions keep the servers and Internet connection up and running! You can still show your support this year and pick up a great gift at the same time. The Contribution Web Site is fast, easy, and secure: http://www.matronics.com/contribution Or, by dropping a personal check in the mail to: Matt Dralle / Matronics 581 Jeannie Way Livermore CA 94550 I also want to thank Andy, Bob, and George for their generous support through the supply of many great gifts this year!! These guys have some excellent products and I encourage you to visit their respective web sites: Andy Gold - The Builder's Bookstore - http://www.buildersbooks.com Bob Nucklolls - AeroElectric - http://www.aeroelectric.com George Race - Race Consulting - http://www.mrrace.com And finally, I'm proud to present The 2015 Fund Raiser List of Contributors: http://www.matronics.com/loc/2015.html Thanks again to everyone that made a Contribution this year!! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List & Forum Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Apr 19, 2016
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Matronics Web Server Back Online
Dear Listers, The Matronics Web server lost a critical system hard drive yesterday 4/18/2016. I have been working feverishly for the last 24 hours to repair the system and get the Matronics Forums and other web-based resources back online. Email services were not impacted in anyway. back online and all resources were successfully restored from a backup. My apologies for the down time. Matt Dralle Matronics Email and Forum Admin ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Airport Courtesy Cars App/Website Update
From: "gbrasch" <gmbrasch(at)gmail.com>
Date: Sep 02, 2016
ACC's app is still free in the app stores, and on the web. Currently over 11,000 active pilots are using it, and several businesses and FBO' offer fuel and other product discounts. I recently added a Facebook page which will include updates and events. If you are on Facebook please take a look and like it at www.facebook.com/airportcourtesycars Thanks! -------- Glenn Brasch RV-9A Flying Medevac Helicopter Pilot (Ret) Owner, "Airport Courtesy Cars" Smart Phone App and www.airportcourtesycars.com Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=460195#460195 ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 01, 2016
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: PLEASE READ - Matronics Email List 2016 Fund Raiser During
November! Dear Listers, Each November I hold a PBS-like fund raiser to support the continued operation and upgrade of the Email List and Fourm Services at Matronics. It's solely through the Contributions of List members (you) that these Matronics Lists are possible. You have probably noticed that there are no banner ads or pop-up windows on any of the Matronics Lists or related web sites such as the Forums site http://forums.matronics.com , Wiki site http://wiki.matronics.com , or other related pages such as the List Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search , List Browse http://www.matronics.com/listbrowse , etc. This is because I believe in a List experience that is completely about the sport we all enjoy - namely Airplanes and not about annoying advertisements. During the month of November I will be sending out List messages every couple of days reminding everyone that the Fund Raiser is underway. I ask for your patience and understanding during the Fund Raiser and throughout these regular messages. The Fund Raiser is only financial support mechanism I have to pay all of the bills associated with running these lists. YOUR personal Contribution counts! This year we have a really HUGE and TERRIFIC line up of free gifts to go along with the various Contribution levels. In fact, there are over 24 different gifts to choose from! There's something for everyone, to be sure. Most all of these gifts have been provided by some of the vary members and vendors that you'll find on the Matronics Lists and they have been either donated or provided at substantially discounted rates. This year, these generous members include: Andy Gold of the Builder's Bookstore http://www.buildersbooks.com Bob Nuckolls of the AeroElectric Connection http://www.aeroelectric.com Corbin Glowacki of My Pilot Store http://www.mypilotstore.com George Race of Race Consulting http://www.mrrace.com/ Jon Croke of HomebuiltHELP http://www.homebuilthelp.com These are very generous guys and I encourage you to visit their respective web sites. Each one offers a unique and excellent aviation-related product line. I would like publicly to thank Andy, Bob, Corbin, George, and Jon their generous support of the Lists again this year!! Please make your List Contribution using any one of three secure methods including using a credit card, PayPal, or by personal check. All three methods afford you the opportunity to select one of this year's free gifts with a qualifying Contribution amount!! To make your Contribution, please visit the secure web site: http://www.matronics.com/contribution I would like to thank everyone in advance for their generous financial AND moral support over the years! Thank you! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator RV-4/RV-6/RV-8 Builder/Rebuilder/Pilot ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 03, 2016
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Please Make A Contribution To Support Your Lists
Dear Listers, There is no advertising income to support the Matronics Email Lists and Forums. The operation is supported 100% by your personal Contributions during the November Fund Raiser. Please make your Contribution today to support the continued operation and upgrade of these services. You can pick up a really nice gift for making your Contribution too! You may use a Credit Card or Paypal at the Matronics Contribution Site here: http://www.matronics.com/contribution or, you can send a personal check to the following address: Matronics / Matt Dralle 581 Jeannie Way Livermore, CA 94550 Thank you in advance for your generous support! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List and Forum Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 05, 2016
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Coming Soon - The List of Contributors - Please Make A
Contribution Today! Each year at the end of the List Fund Raiser, I post a message acknowledging everyone that so generously made a Contribution to support the Lists. Its my way of publicly thanking everyone that took a minute to show their appreciation for the Lists. Please take a moment and assure that your name is on that List of Contributors (LOC)! As a number of members have pointed out over the years, the List seems at least as valuable a building / entertainment tool as your typical magazine subscription! Assure that your name is on this year's LOC! Show others that you appreciate the Lists. Making a Contribution to support the Lists is fast and easy using your Credit card or Paypal on the Secure Web Site: http://www.matronics.com/contribution or by dropping a personal check in the mail to: Matt Dralle / Matronics 581 Jeannie Way Livermore CA 94550 I would like to thank everyone that has so generously made a Contribution thus far in this year's List Fund Raiser! Remember that its YOUR support that keeps these Lists going and improving! Don't forget to include a little comment about how the Lists have helped you! Best regards, Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 07, 2016
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Please Make A Contribution To Support Your Lists
Dear Listers, There is no advertising income to support the Matronics Email Lists and Forums. The operation is supported 100% by your personal Contributions during the November Fund Raiser. Please make your Contribution today to support the continued operation and upgrade of these services. You can pick up a really nice gift for making your Contribution too! You may use a Credit Card or Paypal at the Matronics Contribution Site here: http://www.matronics.com/contribution or, you can send a personal check to the following address: Matronics / Matt Dralle 581 Jeannie Way Livermore, CA 94550 Thank you in advance for your generous support! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List and Forum Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 09, 2016
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: A List Contribution - It's Your Personal Squelch Button...
There is an automatic "squelch button" of sorts for the Fund Raiser messages. Here's how it works... As soon as a List member makes a Contribution through the Matronics Fund Raiser web site, their email address is automatically added to this year's Contributor List and they instantly cease to receive further Fund Raiser messages for the rest of the month! Its just that simple! :-) I really do appreciate each and every one of your individual Contributions to support the Lists. It is your support that enables me to upgrade the hardware and software that are required to run a List Site such as this one. It also goes to pay for the commercial-grade Internet connection and to pay the huge electric bill to keep the computer gear running and the air conditioner powered on. I run all of the Matronics Email List and Forums sites here locally which allows me to control and monitor every aspect of the system for the utmost in reliably and performance. Your personal Contribution matters because, when combined with other Listers such as yourself, it pays the bills to keep this site up and running. I accept exactly ZERO advertising dollars for the Matronics Lists sites. I can't stand the pop-up ads and all other commercials that are so prevalent on the Internet these days and I particularly don't want to have it on my Email List sites. If you appreciate the ad-free, grass-roots, down-home feel of the Matronics Email Lists, please make a Contribution to keep it that way!! http://www.matronics.com/contribution or, you can send a personal check to the following address: Matronics / Matt Dralle 581 Jeannie Way Livermore, CA 94550 Thank you! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator [Note that there are certain circumstances where you might still see a Contribution related message. For example, if someone replies to one of the messages, when using the List Browse feature, or when accessing List message via the Forum. The system keys on the given email address and since most of these are anonymous public access methods, there is no simple way to filter them.] ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 11, 2016
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Make Sure You're Listed! List of Contributors Published
in December! Dear Listers, The List of Contributors (LOC) is just around the corner! In December I post a list of everyone that so generously made a Contribution to support the Lists. Its my way of publicly thanking everyone that took a minute to show their appreciation for the Lists. Won't you take minute and assure that your name is on the upcoming LOC? Tell others that you appreciate the Lists. Making a Contribution to support the Lists is fast and easy using your Visa, MasterCard, or Paypal account: http://www.matronics.com/contribution Or, drop a personal check in the mail to: Matt Dralle / Matronics 581 Jeannie Way Livermore CA 94550 USA I would like to thank everyone that has so generously made a Contribution thus far during this year's List Fund Raiser! Remember that its YOUR support that keeps these Lists running and improving! Don't forget to include a little comment about how the Lists have helped you! Thank you! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 13, 2016
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: [PLEASE READ] Why I Have A Fund Raiser...
Since the beginning, the Matronics List and Forum experience has been free from advertising. I have been approached by fair number of vendors wanting to tap into the large volume of activity across the various lists hosted here, but have always flatly refused. Everywhere you go on the Internet these days, a user is pummeled with flashing banners and videos and ads for crap that they don't want. Yahoo, Google and that ilk are not "free". The user must constantly endure their barrage of commercialism thrust into their face at an ever increasing rate. Enough is enough, and the Lists at Matronics choose not to succumb to that. That being said, running a service of this size is not "free". It costs a lot of money to maintain the hardware, pay for the electricity, air conditioning, maintenance contracts, etc, etc. etc. I choose to hold a PBS-like fund raiser each year during the month of November where I simply send out a short email every other day asking the members to make a small contribution to support the operation. That being said, that contribution is completely voluntary and non-compulsory. Many members choose not to contribute and that's fine. However, a very modest percentage of the members do choose to make a contribution and it is that financial support that keeps the Lists running. And that's it. To my way of thinking, it is a much more pleasant way of maintaining the Lists and Forums. The other 11 months of the year, you don't see a single advertisement or request for support. That's refreshing and that is a List and Forum that I want to belong to. I think other people feel the same way. Won't you please take a minute to make your Contribution today and support these Lists? http://www.matronics.com/contribution Or, drop a personal check in the mail to: Matt Dralle / Matronics 581 Jeannie Way Livermore CA 94550 USA Thank you for your support! Matt Dralle Email List Admin. ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 15, 2016
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Reminder
Dear Listers, A quick reminder that November is the annual Matronics List Fund Raiser. The Lists are 100% member supported and all of the operational costs are covered solely through your Contributions during this time of the year. *Your* personal Contribution makes a difference and keeps all of the Matronics Email Lists and Forums completely ad-free. Please make your Contribution today to keep these services up and running for another great year! Use a credit card or your PayPal account here: http://www.matronics.com/contribution Or, by sending a personal check to: Matronics / Matt Dralle 581 Jeannie Way Livermore CA 94550 Thank you in advance! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List and Forum Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 17, 2016
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: What's Your Contribution Used For?
Dear Listers, You might have wondered at some point, "What's my Contribution used for?" Here are just a few examples of what your direct List support enables... It provides for the expensive, commercial-grade Internet connection used on the List. It pays for the regular system hardware and software upgrades enabling the highest performance possible for List services such as the Archive Search Engine, List Browser, and the Web Forums. It pays for the over 23 years of on-line archive data always available for instant search and access. And, it offsets the many hours spent writing, developing, and maintaining the custom applications that power these List Service such as the List Browse, Search Engine, Forums, and Wiki. But most importantly, your List Contribution enables a forum where you and your peers can communicate freely in an environment that is free from moderation, censorship, advertising, commercialism, SPAM, and computer viruses. It is YOUR CONTRIBUTION that directly enables all these aspects of Matronics List services. Please support it today with your List Contribution. Its one of the best investments you can make in your Sport! List Contribution Web Site: http://www.matronics.com/contribution or, you can send a personal check to the following address: Matronics / Matt Dralle 581 Jeannie Way Livermore, CA 94550 Thank you for your support! Matt Dralle Email List Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 19, 2016
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Please Make a Contribution to Support Your Lists...
Dear Listers, Just a reminder that November is the Annual List Fund Raiser. Please make a Contribution today to support the continued operation and upgrade of these great List services!! Pick up a really nice free gift with your qualifying Contribution too! The Contribution Site is fast and easy: http://www.matronics.com/contribution or by dropping a personal check in the mail to: Matt Dralle / Matronics 581 Jeannie Way Livermore CA 94550 Thank you! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 21, 2016
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Coming Soon - The List of Contributors - Please Make A
Contribution Today! Each year at the end of the List Fund Raiser, I post a message acknowledging everyone that so generously made a Contribution to support the Lists. Its my way of publicly thanking everyone that took a minute to show their appreciation for the Lists. Please take a moment and assure that your name is on that List of Contributors (LOC)! As a number of members have pointed out over the years, the List seems at least as valuable a building / entertainment tool as your typical magazine subscription! Assure that your name is on this year's LOC! Show others that you appreciate the Lists. Making a Contribution to support the Lists is fast and easy using your Credit card or Paypal on the Secure Web Site: http://www.matronics.com/contribution or by dropping a personal check in the mail to: Matt Dralle / Matronics 581 Jeannie Way Livermore CA 94550 I would like to thank everyone that has so generously made a Contribution thus far in this year's List Fund Raiser! Remember that its YOUR support that keeps these Lists going and improving! Don't forget to include a little comment about how the Lists have helped you! Best regards, Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 23, 2016
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Value of the List...
If you look forward to checking your List email everyday (and a lot of you have written to say that you do!), then you're probably getting at least $20 or $30 worth of Entertainment from the Lists each year. You'd pay twice that for a subscription to some magazine or even a dinner out. Isn't the List worth at least that much to you? Wouldn't it be great if you could pay that amount and get a well-managed media source free of advertising, SPAM, and viruses? Come to think of it, you do... :-) Won't you please take a minute to make your Contribution today and support these Lists? http://www.matronics.com/contribution Or, drop a personal check in the mail to: Matt Dralle / Matronics 581 Jeannie Way Livermore CA 94550 USA I want to say THANK YOU to everyone that has made a Contribution thus far during this year's List Fund Raiser!! These Lists are made possible exclusively through YOUR generosity!! Thank you for your support! Matt Dralle Email List Admin. ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 26, 2016
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Just A Few Days Left...
Dear Listers, There are just a few days left for this year's List Fund Raiser. If you've been putting off making a Contribution until the last minute, well, this is it! The last minute, that is... :-) There are some GREAT new gift selections to choose from this year. I personally want at least three of them! There's probably something you can't live without too! And, best of all it supports your Lists! Please remember that there isn't any sort of commercial advertising on the Lists and the *only* means of keeping these Lists running is through your Contributions during this Fund Raiser. Let's make this a "Black Friday" for the Lists! Please make a Contribution today! http://www.matronics.com/contribution Or, drop a personal check in the mail to: Matt Dralle / Matronics 581 Jeannie Way Livermore CA 94550 Thank you! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 27, 2016
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Please Make a Contribution to Support Your Lists...
Dear Listers, Just a reminder that November is the Annual List Fund Raiser. Please make a Contribution today to support the continued operation and upgrade of these great List services!! Pick up a really nice free gift with your qualifying Contribution too! The Contribution Site is fast and easy: http://www.matronics.com/contribution or by dropping a personal check in the mail to: Matt Dralle / Matronics 581 Jeannie Way Livermore CA 94550 Thank you! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 28, 2016
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Fund Raiser Behind By 28% - Please Contribute Today!
Dear Listers, The percentage of members making a Contribution to support the Lists this year is currently behind last year by at this time by roughly 28%. Please take this opportunity to show your support for the Matronics Lists and Forums! Please remember that it is *solely* your direct Contributions that keep these Lists and Forums up and running and most importantly - AD FREE! If the members don't want to support the Lists directly, then I might have to add advertisements to offset the costs of running the Lists. But I don't want to have to do that. I really like the non-commercial atmosphere here and I think that a lot of the members appreciate that too. Please take a moment to make a Contribution today in support of the continued ad-free operation of all these Lists: http://www.matronics.com/contribution Or, drop a personal check in the mail to: Matt Dralle / Matronics 581 Jeannie Way Livermore CA 94550 USA I want to send out a word of appreciation to all of the members that have already made their generous Contribution to support the Lists! Thank you! Matt Dralle Email List and Forums Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 29, 2016
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Just Two Days Left! - Still Behind...
Dear Listers, There are just two more days left in this years List Fund Raiser. We are still way behind last year in terms of the number of contributions and total contribution amount. I really want to keep providing these services to the homebuilt community, but it take resources. Since there's no advertising budget or deep pockets to keep the operation a float, its solely your generosity during the Fund Raiser that keeps things going. Please make a Contribution today. If you've been putting off showing your support for the Lists, now is the time to do it! Make a contribution with a Credit Card or though PayPal at that Matronics Contribution web site: http://www.matronics.com/contribution Or, drop a check in the mail: Matronics / Matt Dralle 581 Jeannie Way Livermore, CA 94550 Thank you in advance for your support! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 30, 2016
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: [Please Read] - Last Official Day of List Fund Raiser!
Dear Listers, It's November 30th and that always means a couple of things. Its my birthday again - 53! :-) But it also means that it's that last official day of the Matronics Email List Fund Raiser! If you been thinking about picking up one of those really nice incentive gifts now is the time to jump on it!! If you've been meaning to make a Contribution this month but have been putting it off for some reason, NOW is the time! I will be posting the List of Contributors in a few days, so you'll probably want to be known as a person that supported the Lists! I want to thank everyone that has so generously made a Contribution this year in support of our Lists. It is your generosity that keeps this operation running and I don't ever forget it. The List Contribution Web Site is fast and easy. Please support our habit by making your Contribution right now: http://www.matronics.com/contribution Or, by dropping a personal check in the mail to: Matt Dralle / Matronics 581 Jeannie Way Livermore CA 94550 USA Thank you in advance! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Airport Courtesy Cars App Closing?
From: "gbrasch" <gmbrasch(at)gmail.com>
Date: Dec 16, 2016
IMPORTANT! If you are a user of the app version of Airport Courtesy Cars, please view it for an important message about the possible closure of the app, or view the page here: https://www.airportcourtesycars.com/app-status.html -------- Glenn Brasch RV-9A Flying Medevac Helicopter Pilot (Ret) Owner, "Airport Courtesy Cars" Smart Phone App and www.airportcourtesycars.com Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=464025#464025 ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Airport Courtesy Cars App Closing?
From: "gbrasch" <gmbrasch(at)gmail.com>
Date: Dec 18, 2016
I am happy to report that thanks to donations, the site continues. View the donors or add your name by clicking here: https://www.airportcourtesycars.com/thank-you-donors-.html Thanks, Glenn -------- Glenn Brasch RV-9A Flying Medevac Helicopter Pilot (Ret) Owner, "Airport Courtesy Cars" Smart Phone App and www.airportcourtesycars.com Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=464155#464155 ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Dec 24, 2016
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: 2016 List of Contributors
Dear Listers, The 2016 Matronics Email List and Forum Fund Raiser officially ended a couple of weeks ago and it's time that I published this year's List of Contributors. It is the people on this list that directly make these Email Lists and Forums possible! Their generous Contributions keep the servers and Internet connection up and running! You can still show your support this year and pick up a great gift at the same time. The Contribution Web Site is fast, easy, and secure: http://www.matronics.com/contribution Or, by dropping a personal check in the mail to: Matt Dralle / Matronics 581 Jeannie Way Livermore CA 94550 I also want to thank Andy, Bob, George, and Jon for their generous support through the supply of many great gifts this year!! These guys have some excellent products and I encourage you to visit their respective web sites: Andy Gold - The Builder's Bookstore - http://www.buildersbooks.com Bob Nucklolls - AeroElectric - http://www.aeroelectric.com George Race - Race Consulting - http://www.mrrace.com Jon Croke - HomebuiltHELP - http://www.homebuilthelp.com And finally, I'm proud to present The 2016 Fund Raiser List of Contributors: http://www.matronics.com/loc/2016.html Thank you again to everyone that made a Contribution this year!! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List & Forum Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Airport Cafe's Now Listed in ACC's
From: "gbrasch" <gmbrasch(at)gmail.com>
Date: Dec 31, 2016
I have just added over 50 airport cafs (and still growing) to current listings in the Airport Courtesy Cars website and app (just in case your courtesy car isnt available when you arrive!) These listings are highlighted in red so you can easily find them. If you have any additions or corrections, please email them directly to me at airportcars101(at)gmail.com. Thanks and Happy New Year! Glenn PS, Submit your ramp fee's experience also for inclusion in the website/app! -------- Glenn Brasch RV-9A Flying Medevac Helicopter Pilot (Ret) Owner, "Airport Courtesy Cars" Smart Phone App and www.airportcourtesycars.com Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=464570#464570 ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Apr 15, 2017
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Matronics Internet Connectivity Upgrades April 17-18 2017
Dear Matronics Email List an/or Forum User, The Matronics Internet connectivity will be upgraded on April 17 through April 18, 2017. During the upgrade connections to the Matronics and AeroElectric web servers may be unavailable. Additionally, Matronics Email List email will not be redistributed. Internet Connectivity bandwidth will be significantly increased by a factor of 7X for downloads and 50X for uploads, which represents a significant increase in performance. Reliability should also increase in terms. I will send out a follow up message when the upgrade has been completed. Best Regards, Matt Dralle Matronics Email List and Forum Admin. Matt G Dralle | Matronics | 581 Jeannie Way | Livermore | CA | 94550 925-606-1001 V | 925-606-6281 F | dralle(at)matronics.com Email http://www.matronics.com/ WWW | Featuring Products For Aircraft ________________________________________________________________________________
From: Alan Mekler MD <amekler(at)metrocast.net>
Date: Jul 26, 2017
Subject: CH750
Looking at building Live in NH Are there builders in the area? Alan Sent from my iPhone ________________________________________________________________________________
From: ernie <ernieth(at)gmail.com>
Date: Jul 26, 2017
Subject: Re: CH750
How close are you to andover NH the local EAA was active there. On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 6:42 AM, Alan Mekler MD wrote: > amekler(at)metrocast.net> > > Looking at building > Live in NH > Are there builders in the area? > Alan > > Sent from my iPhone > > ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 01, 2017
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: PLEASE READ - Matronics Email List 2017 Fund Raiser During
November! Dear Listers, Each November I hold a PBS-like fund raiser to support the continued operation and upgrade of the Email List and Fourm Services at Matronics. It's solely through the Contributions of List members (you) that these Matronics Lists are possible. You have probably noticed that there are no banner ads or pop-up windows on any of the Matronics Lists or related web sites such as the Forums site http://forums.matronics.com , Wiki site http://wiki.matronics.com , or other related pages such as the List Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search , List Browse http://www.matronics.com/listbrowse , etc. This is because I believe in a List experience that is completely about the sport we all enjoy - namely Airplanes and not about annoying advertisements. During the month of November I will be sending out List messages every couple of days reminding everyone that the Fund Raiser is underway. I ask for your patience and understanding during the Fund Raiser and throughout these regular messages. The Fund Raiser is only financial support mechanism I have to pay all of the bills associated with running these lists. YOUR personal Contribution counts! This year we have a really HUGE and TERRIFIC line up of free gifts to go along with the various Contribution levels. In fact, there are 9 great gifts to choose from! There's something for everyone, to be sure. Please make your List Contribution using any one of three secure methods including using a Credit Card, PayPal, or by Personal Check. All three methods afford you the opportunity to select one of this year's free gifts with a qualifying Contribution amount!! To make your Contribution, please visit the secure web site: http://www.matronics.com/contribution I would like to thank everyone in advance for their generous financial AND moral support over the years! Thank you! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator RV-4/RV-6/RV-8 Builder/Rebuilder/Pilot ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 01, 2017
From: joseph hanz <jlhanz1(at)yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: PLEASE READ - Matronics Email List 2017 Fund Raiser
During November! Please remove me from list. ronics.com> wrote: Dear Listers, Each November I hold a PBS-like fund raiser to support the continued operat ion and upgrade of the Email List and Fourm Services at Matronics.=C2- It 's solely through the Contributions of List members (you) that these Matron ics Lists are possible.=C2- You have probably noticed that there are no banner ads or pop-up windows on any of the Matronics Lists or related web sites such as the Forums site ht tp://forums.matronics.com , Wiki site http://wiki.matronics.com , or other related pages such as the List Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/searc h , List Browse http://www.matronics.com/listbrowse , etc.=C2- This is be cause I believe in a List experience that is completely about the sport we all enjoy - namely Airplanes and not about annoying advertisements. During the month of November I will be sending out List messages every coup le of days reminding everyone that the Fund Raiser is underway.=C2- I ask for your patience and understanding during the Fund Raiser and throughout these regular messages.=C2- The Fund Raiser is only financial support mec hanism I have to pay all of the bills associated with running these lists. =C2- YOUR personal Contribution counts! This year we have a really HUGE and TERRIFIC line up of free gifts to go al ong with the various Contribution levels.=C2- In fact, there are 9 great gifts to choose from!=C2- There's something for everyone, to be sure. Please make your List Contribution using any one of three secure methods in cluding using a Credit Card, PayPal, or by Personal Check.=C2- All three methods afford you the opportunity to select one of this year's free gifts with a qualifying Contribution amount!!=C2- To make your Contribution, please visit the secure web site: =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- http://www.matronics.com/contribution I would like to thank everyone in advance for their generous financial AND moral support over the years! Thank you! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator RV-4/RV-6/RV-8 Builder/Rebuilder/Pilot S - WIKI - - =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- -Matt Dralle, List Admin. ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 03, 2017
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Please Make A Contribution To Support Your Lists
Dear Listers, There is no advertising income to support the Matronics Email Lists and Forums. The operation is supported 100% by your personal Contributions during the November Fund Raiser. Please make your Contribution today to support the continued operation and upgrade of these services. You can pick up a really nice gift for making your Contribution too! You may use a Credit Card or Paypal at the Matronics Contribution Site here: http://www.matronics.com/contribution or, you can send a personal check to the following address: Matronics / Matt Dralle 581 Jeannie Way Livermore, CA 94550 Thank you in advance for your generous support! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List and Forum Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 03, 2017
From: joseph hanz <jlhanz1(at)yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Please Make A Contribution To Support Your Lists
Please remove me from your emails. ics.com> wrote: Dear Listers, There is no advertising income to support the Matronics Email Lists and For ums.=C2- The operation is supported 100% by your personal Contributions d uring the November Fund Raiser. Please make your Contribution today to support the continued operation and upgrade of these services.=C2- You can pick up a really nice gift for mak ing your Contribution too! You may use a Credit Card or Paypal at the Matronics Contribution Site here : =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- http://www.matronics.com/contribution or, you can send a personal check to the following address: =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- Matronics / Matt Dralle =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- 581 Jeannie Way =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- Livermore, CA 94550 Thank you in advance for your generous support! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List and Forum Administrator S - WIKI - - =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- -Matt Dralle, List Admin. ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Help Keep Airport Courtesy Cars Running
From: "gbrasch" <airportcars101(at)gmail.com>
Date: Nov 04, 2017
Last November, a few people (out of thousands) complained to me that my fundraising efforts for the Airport Courtesy Cars site were too often. In response, I will only ask for donations once a year, in November. In the past few months I have transferred all the data to a web based platform. As a result, the site will work on ANY device with no bugs, crashes, or Android and Apple permissions required. Please refer to website for more details. The site now lists over 1,830 courtesy cars across the U.S. I receive a very small percent of my operating costs from advertisers. Most of my expenses are covered from small donations from pilots like you. I take no salary. Please consider any donation to keep the site up and running in the coming year. Donations can be made via the secure PayPal tab on the site (you don not need a PayPal account), or by mailing your donation to: Airport Courtesy Cars. P.O. Box 85762, Tucson, Arizona 85754. All donors will be listed on the donor page (unless you request not to be). Any donation is greatly appreciated. Please share this post with a fellow pilot who might benefit from A.C.C.s You can continue to email me your updates and suggestions to: airportcars101(at)gmail.com Thank you, Glenn www.airportcourtesycars.com -------- Glenn Brasch RV-9A Flying Medevac Helicopter Pilot (Ret) Owner, "Airport Courtesy Cars" Website www.airportcourtesycars.com Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=474327#474327 ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 05, 2017
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Coming Soon - The List of Contributors - Please Make A
Contribution Today! Each year at the end of the List Fund Raiser, I post a message acknowledging everyone that so generously made a Contribution to support the Lists. Its my way of publicly thanking everyone that took a minute to show their appreciation for the Lists. Please take a moment and assure that your name is on that List of Contributors (LOC)! As a number of members have pointed out over the years, the List seems at least as valuable a building / entertainment tool as your typical magazine subscription! Assure that your name is on this year's LOC! Show others that you appreciate the Lists. Making a Contribution to support the Lists is fast and easy using your Credit card or Paypal on the Secure Web Site: http://www.matronics.com/contribution or by dropping a personal check in the mail to: Matt Dralle / Matronics 581 Jeannie Way Livermore CA 94550 I would like to thank everyone that has so generously made a Contribution thus far in this year's List Fund Raiser! Remember that its YOUR support that keeps these Lists going and improving! Don't forget to include a little comment about how the Lists have helped you! Best regards, Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 07, 2017
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Please Make A Contribution To Support Your Lists
Dear Listers, There is no advertising income to support the Matronics Email Lists and Forums. The operation is supported 100% by your personal Contributions during the November Fund Raiser. Please make your Contribution today to support the continued operation and upgrade of these services. You can pick up a really nice gift for making your Contribution too! You may use a Credit Card or Paypal at the Matronics Contribution Site here: http://www.matronics.com/contribution or, you can send a personal check to the following address: Matronics / Matt Dralle 581 Jeannie Way Livermore, CA 94550 Thank you in advance for your generous support! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List and Forum Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 09, 2017
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: A List Contribution - It's Your Personal Squelch Button...
There is an automatic "squelch button" of sorts for the Fund Raiser messages. Here's how it works... As soon as a List member makes a Contribution through the Matronics Fund Raiser web site, their email address is automatically added to this year's Contributor List and they instantly cease to receive further Fund Raiser messages for the rest of the month! Its just that simple! :-) I really do appreciate each and every one of your individual Contributions to support the Lists. It is your support that enables me to upgrade the hardware and software that are required to run a List Site such as this one. It also goes to pay for the commercial-grade Internet connection and to pay the huge electric bill to keep the computer gear running and the air conditioner powered on. I run all of the Matronics Email List and Forums sites here locally which allows me to control and monitor every aspect of the system for the utmost in reliably and performance. Your personal Contribution matters because, when combined with other Listers such as yourself, it pays the bills to keep this site up and running. I accept exactly ZERO advertising dollars for the Matronics Lists sites. I can't stand the pop-up ads and all other commercials that are so prevalent on the Internet these days and I particularly don't want to have it on my Email List sites. If you appreciate the ad-free, grass-roots, down-home feel of the Matronics Email Lists, please make a Contribution to keep it that way!! http://www.matronics.com/contribution or, you can send a personal check to the following address: Matronics / Matt Dralle 581 Jeannie Way Livermore, CA 94550 Thank you! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator [Note that there are certain circumstances where you might still see a Contribution related message. For example, if someone replies to one of the messages, when using the List Browse feature, or when accessing List message via the Forum. The system keys on the given email address and since most of these are anonymous public access methods, there is no simple way to filter them.] ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 11, 2017
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Make Sure You're Listed! List of Contributors Published
in December! Dear Listers, The List of Contributors (LOC) is just around the corner! In December I post a list of everyone that so generously made a Contribution to support the Lists. Its my way of publicly thanking everyone that took a minute to show their appreciation for the Lists. Won't you take minute and assure that your name is on the upcoming LOC? Tell others that you appreciate the Lists. Making a Contribution to support the Lists is fast and easy using your Visa, MasterCard, or Paypal account: http://www.matronics.com/contribution Or, drop a personal check in the mail to: Matt Dralle / Matronics 581 Jeannie Way Livermore CA 94550 USA I would like to thank everyone that has so generously made a Contribution thus far during this year's List Fund Raiser! Remember that its YOUR support that keeps these Lists running and improving! Don't forget to include a little comment about how the Lists have helped you! Thank you! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 13, 2017
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: [PLEASE READ] Why I Have A Fund Raiser...
Since the beginning, the Matronics List and Forum experience has been free from advertising. I have been approached by fair number of vendors wanting to tap into the large volume of activity across the various lists hosted here, but have always flatly refused. Everywhere you go on the Internet these days, a user is pummeled with flashing banners and videos and ads for crap that they don't want. Yahoo, Google and that ilk are not "free". The user must constantly endure their barrage of commercialism thrust into their face at an ever increasing rate. Enough is enough, and the Lists at Matronics choose not to succumb to that. That being said, running a service of this size is not "free". It costs a lot of money to maintain the hardware, pay for the electricity, air conditioning, maintenance contracts, etc, etc. etc. I choose to hold a PBS-like fund raiser each year during the month of November where I simply send out a short email every other day asking the members to make a small contribution to support the operation. That being said, that contribution is completely voluntary and non-compulsory. Many members choose not to contribute and that's fine. However, a very modest percentage of the members do choose to make a contribution and it is that financial support that keeps the Lists running. And that's it. To my way of thinking, it is a much more pleasant way of maintaining the Lists and Forums. The other 11 months of the year, you don't see a single advertisement or request for support. That's refreshing and that is a List and Forum that I want to belong to. I think other people feel the same way. Won't you please take a minute to make your Contribution today and support these Lists? http://www.matronics.com/contribution Or, drop a personal check in the mail to: Matt Dralle / Matronics 581 Jeannie Way Livermore CA 94550 USA Thank you for your support! Matt Dralle Email List Admin. ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 15, 2017
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Reminder
Dear Listers, A quick reminder that November is the annual Matronics List Fund Raiser. The Lists are 100% member supported and all of the operational costs are covered solely through your Contributions during this time of the year. *Your* personal Contribution makes a difference and keeps all of the Matronics Email Lists and Forums completely ad-free. Please make your Contribution today to keep these services up and running for another great year! Use a credit card or your PayPal account here: http://www.matronics.com/contribution Or, by sending a personal check to: Matronics / Matt Dralle 581 Jeannie Way Livermore CA 94550 Thank you in advance! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List and Forum Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 17, 2017
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: What's Your Contribution Used For?
Dear Listers, You might have wondered at some point, "What's my Contribution used for?" Here are just a few examples of what your direct List support enables... It provides for the expensive, commercial-grade Internet connection used on the List. It pays for the regular system hardware and software upgrades enabling the highest performance possible for List services such as the Archive Search Engine, List Browser, and the Web Forums. It pays for the over 23 years of on-line archive data always available for instant search and access. And, it offsets the many hours spent writing, developing, and maintaining the custom applications that power these List Service such as the List Browse, Search Engine, Forums, and Wiki. But most importantly, your List Contribution enables a forum where you and your peers can communicate freely in an environment that is free from moderation, censorship, advertising, commercialism, SPAM, and computer viruses. It is YOUR CONTRIBUTION that directly enables all these aspects of Matronics List services. Please support it today with your List Contribution. Its one of the best investments you can make in your Sport! List Contribution Web Site: http://www.matronics.com/contribution or, you can send a personal check to the following address: Matronics / Matt Dralle 581 Jeannie Way Livermore, CA 94550 Thank you for your support! Matt Dralle Email List Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 19, 2017
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Please Make a Contribution to Support Your Lists...
Dear Listers, Just a reminder that November is the Annual List Fund Raiser. Please make a Contribution today to support the continued operation and upgrade of these great List services!! Pick up a really nice free gift with your qualifying Contribution too! The Contribution Site is fast and easy: http://www.matronics.com/contribution or by dropping a personal check in the mail to: Matt Dralle / Matronics 581 Jeannie Way Livermore CA 94550 Thank you! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 21, 2017
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Coming Soon - The List of Contributors - Please Make A
Contribution Today! Each year at the end of the List Fund Raiser, I post a message acknowledging everyone that so generously made a Contribution to support the Lists. Its my way of publicly thanking everyone that took a minute to show their appreciation for the Lists. Please take a moment and assure that your name is on that List of Contributors (LOC)! As a number of members have pointed out over the years, the List seems at least as valuable a building / entertainment tool as your typical magazine subscription! Assure that your name is on this year's LOC! Show others that you appreciate the Lists. Making a Contribution to support the Lists is fast and easy using your Credit card or Paypal on the Secure Web Site: http://www.matronics.com/contribution or by dropping a personal check in the mail to: Matt Dralle / Matronics 581 Jeannie Way Livermore CA 94550 I would like to thank everyone that has so generously made a Contribution thus far in this year's List Fund Raiser! Remember that its YOUR support that keeps these Lists going and improving! Don't forget to include a little comment about how the Lists have helped you! Best regards, Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 24, 2017
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Value of the List...
If you look forward to checking your List email everyday (and a lot of you have written to say that you do!), then you're probably getting at least $20 or $30 worth of Entertainment from the Lists each year. You'd pay twice that for a subscription to some magazine or even a dinner out. Isn't the List worth at least that much to you? Wouldn't it be great if you could pay that amount and get a well-managed media source free of advertising, SPAM, and viruses? Come to think of it, you do... :-) Won't you please take a minute to make your Contribution today and support these Lists? http://www.matronics.com/contribution Or, drop a personal check in the mail to: Matt Dralle / Matronics 581 Jeannie Way Livermore CA 94550 USA I want to say THANK YOU to everyone that has made a Contribution thus far during this year's List Fund Raiser!! These Lists are made possible exclusively through YOUR generosity!! Thank you for your support! Matt Dralle Email List Admin. ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 26, 2017
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Just A Few Days Left...
Dear Listers, There are just a few days left for this year's List Fund Raiser. If you've been putting off making a Contribution until the last minute, well, this is it! The last minute, that is... :-) There are some GREAT new gift selections to choose from this year. I personally want at least three of them! There's probably something you can't live without too! And, best of all it supports your Lists! Please remember that there isn't any sort of commercial advertising on the Lists and the *only* means of keeping these Lists running is through your Contributions during this Fund Raiser. Let's make this a "Black Friday" for the Lists! Please make a Contribution today! http://www.matronics.com/contribution Or, drop a personal check in the mail to: Matt Dralle / Matronics 581 Jeannie Way Livermore CA 94550 Thank you! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 28, 2017
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Just A Few Days Left...
Dear Listers, There are just a few days left for this year's List Fund Raiser. If you've been putting off making a Contribution until the last minute, well, this is it! The last minute, that is... :-) There are some GREAT new gift selections to choose from this year. I personally want at least three of them! There's probably something you can't live without too! And, best of all it supports your Lists! Please remember that there isn't any sort of commercial advertising on the Lists and the *only* means of keeping these Lists running is through your Contributions during this Fund Raiser. Let's make this a "Black Friday" for the Lists! Please make a Contribution today! http://www.matronics.com/contribution Or, drop a personal check in the mail to: Matt Dralle / Matronics 581 Jeannie Way Livermore CA 94550 Thank you! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 29, 2017
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Coming Soon - The List of Contributors - Please Make A
Contribution Today! Each year at the end of the List Fund Raiser, I post a message acknowledging everyone that so generously made a Contribution to support the Lists. Its my way of publicly thanking everyone that took a minute to show their appreciation for the Lists. Please take a moment and assure that your name is on that List of Contributors (LOC)! As a number of members have pointed out over the years, the List seems at least as valuable a building / entertainment tool as your typical magazine subscription! Assure that your name is on this year's LOC! Show others that you appreciate the Lists. Making a Contribution to support the Lists is fast and easy using your Credit card or Paypal on the Secure Web Site: http://www.matronics.com/contribution or by dropping a personal check in the mail to: Matt Dralle / Matronics 581 Jeannie Way Livermore CA 94550 I would like to thank everyone that has so generously made a Contribution thus far in this year's List Fund Raiser! Remember that its YOUR support that keeps these Lists going and improving! Don't forget to include a little comment about how the Lists have helped you! Best regards, Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 30, 2017
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: [Please Read] - Last Official Day of List Fund Raiser!
Dear Listers, It's November 30th and that always means a couple of things. Its my birthday again - 54! :-) But it also means that it's that last official day of the Matronics Email List Fund Raiser! If you been thinking about picking up one of those really nice incentive gifts now is the time to jump on it!! If you've been meaning to make a Contribution this month but have been putting it off for some reason, NOW is the time! I will be posting the List of Contributors in a few days, so you'll probably want to be known as a person that supported the Lists! I want to thank everyone that has so generously made a Contribution this year in support of our Lists. It is your generosity that keeps this operation running and I don't ever forget it. The List Contribution Web Site is fast and easy. Please support our habit by making your Contribution right now: http://www.matronics.com/contribution Or, by dropping a personal check in the mail to: Matt Dralle / Matronics 581 Jeannie Way Livermore CA 94550 USA Thank you in advance! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Help Keep Airport Courtesy Cars Running
From: "gbrasch" <airportcars101(at)gmail.com>
Date: Dec 06, 2017
Thanks to those of you who donated this past month and year to help keep Airport Courtesy Cars website up and running. Your names are posted on the donor page. This month ACCs will transform to a fully web based platform that will work on any device, bug and permission free. Just bookmark the website on your home screen. Continued donations are greatly appreciated, along with new listings or corrections. See you next November. Glenn -------- Glenn Brasch RV-9A Flying Medevac Helicopter Pilot (Ret) Owner, "Airport Courtesy Cars" Website www.airportcourtesycars.com Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=476179#476179 ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Dec 17, 2017
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: 2017 List of Contributors
Dear Listers, The 2017 Matronics Email List and Forum Fund Raiser officially ended a couple of weeks ago and it's time that I published this year's List of Contributors (LOC). It is the people on this list that directly make these Email Lists and Forums possible! Their generous Contributions keep the servers and Internet connection up and running! You can still show your support this year and pick up a great gift at the same time. The Contribution Web Site is fast, easy, and secure: http://www.matronics.com/contribution Or, by dropping a personal check in the mail to: Matt Dralle / Matronics 581 Jeannie Way Livermore CA 94550 And finally, I'm proud to present The 2017 Fund Raiser List of Contributors: http://www.matronics.com/loc Thank you again to everyone that made a Contribution this year!! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List & Forum Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: AirNav.com Now Linked to Airport Courtesy Cars
From: "gbrasch" <airportcars101(at)gmail.com>
Date: Apr 04, 2018
Airport Courtesy Cars website has been updated to link to AirNav.com. Click on any of the over 1,850 airport IDs within the site and you will be taken to the AirNav.com page for that airport. Please note Airport Courtesy Cars is now fully web based and works on any device. We have also added many locations with MOGAS. Have a great flying season and please consider a small donation to keep this site running and get your name added to the donor page. Thanks, Glenn -------- Glenn Brasch RV-9A Flying Medevac Helicopter Pilot (Ret) Owner, "Airport Courtesy Cars" Website www.airportcourtesycars.com Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=479094#479094 ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Sep 09, 2018
From: hshack(at)aol.com
Subject: Auto Response: Zenith750-List Digest: 0 Msgs - 09/08/18
Thank you for the email. Please know that Howard has passed away. If you are NOT a solicitor, please contact his wife Judy at tudulu2(at)aol.com ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 01, 2018
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: PLEASE READ - Matronics Email List 2018 Fund Raiser During
November! Dear Listers, Each November I hold a PBS-like fund raiser to support the continued operation and upgrade of the Email List and Fourm Services at Matronics. It's solely through the Contributions of List members (you) that these Matronics Lists are possible. You have probably noticed that there are no banner ads or pop-up windows on any of the Matronics Lists or related web sites such as the Forums site http://forums.matronics.com , Wiki site http://wiki.matronics.com , or other related pages such as the List Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search , List Browse http://www.matronics.com/listbrowse , etc. This is because I believe in a List experience that is completely about the sport we all enjoy - namely Airplanes and not about annoying advertisements. During the month of November I will be sending out List messages every couple of days reminding everyone that the Fund Raiser is underway. I ask for your patience and understanding during the Fund Raiser and throughout these regular messages. The Fund Raiser is only financial support mechanism I have to pay all of the bills associated with running these lists. YOUR personal Contribution counts! This year we have a really HUGE and TERRIFIC line up of free gifts to go along with the various Contribution levels. In fact, there are 9 great gifts to choose from! There's something for everyone, to be sure. Please make your List Contribution using any one of three secure methods including using a Credit Card, PayPal, or by Personal Check. All three methods afford you the opportunity to select one of this year's free gifts with a qualifying Contribution amount!! To make your Contribution, please visit the secure web site: http://www.matronics.com/contribution I would like to thank everyone in advance for their generous financial AND moral support over the years! Thank you! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator RV-4/RV-6/RV-8 Builder/Rebuilder/Pilot ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 03, 2018
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Please Make A Contribution To Support Your Lists
Dear Listers, There is no advertising income to support the Matronics Email Lists and Forums. The operation is supported 100% by your personal Contributions during the November Fund Raiser. Please make your Contribution today to support the continued operation and upgrade of these services. You can pick up a really nice gift for making your Contribution too! You may use a Credit Card or Paypal at the Matronics Contribution Site here: http://www.matronics.com/contribution or, you can send a personal check to the following address: Matronics / Matt Dralle 581 Jeannie Way Livermore, CA 94550 Thank you in advance for your generous support! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List and Forum Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 05, 2018
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Coming Soon - The List of Contributors - Please Make A
Contribution Today! Each year at the end of the List Fund Raiser, I post a message acknowledging everyone that so generously made a Contribution to support the Lists. Its my way of publicly thanking everyone that took a minute to show their appreciation for the Lists. Please take a moment and assure that your name is on that List of Contributors (LOC)! As a number of members have pointed out over the years, the List seems at least as valuable a building / entertainment tool as your typical magazine subscription! Assure that your name is on this year's LOC! Show others that you appreciate the Lists. Making a Contribution to support the Lists is fast and easy using your Credit card or Paypal on the Secure Web Site: http://www.matronics.com/contribution or by dropping a personal check in the mail to: Matt Dralle / Matronics 581 Jeannie Way Livermore CA 94550 I would like to thank everyone that has so generously made a Contribution thus far in this year's List Fund Raiser! Remember that its YOUR support that keeps these Lists going and improving! Don't forget to include a little comment about how the Lists have helped you! Best regards, Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 07, 2018
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: [PLEASE READ] Why I Have A Fund Raiser...
Since the beginning, the Matronics List and Forum experience has been free from advertising. I have been approached by fair number of vendors wanting to tap into the large volume of activity across the various lists hosted here, but have always flatly refused. Everywhere you go on the Internet these days, a user is pummeled with flashing banners and videos and ads for crap that they don't want. Yahoo, Google and that ilk are not "free". The user must constantly endure their barrage of commercialism thrust into their face at an ever increasing rate. Enough is enough, and the Lists at Matronics choose not to succumb to that. That being said, running a service of this size is not "free". It costs a lot of money to maintain the hardware, pay for the electricity, Commercial-greade Internet Connection, air conditioning, maintenance contracts, etc, etc. etc. I choose to hold a PBS-like fund raiser each year during the month of November where I simply send out a short email every other day asking the members to make a small contribution to support the operation. That being said, that contribution is completely voluntary and non-compulsory. Many members choose not to contribute and that's fine. However, a very modest percentage of the members do choose to make a contribution and it is that financial support that keeps the Lists running. And that's it. To my way of thinking, it is a much more pleasant way of maintaining the Lists and Forums. The other 11 months of the year, you don't see a single advertisement or request for support. That's refreshing and that is a List and Forum that I want to belong to. I think other people feel the same way. Won't you please take a minute to make your Contribution today and support these Lists? http://www.matronics.com/contribution Or, drop a personal check in the mail to: Matt Dralle / Matronics 581 Jeannie Way Livermore CA 94550 USA Thank you for your support! Matt Dralle Email List Admin. ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 09, 2018
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: List Contribution - Value of the List...
If you look forward to checking your List email everyday (and a lot of you have written to say that you do!), then you're probably getting at least $20 or $30 worth of Entertainment from the Lists each year. You'd pay twice that for a subscription to some magazine or even a dinner out. Isn't the List worth at least that much to you? Wouldn't it be great if you could pay that amount and get a well-managed media source free of advertising, SPAM, and viruses? Come to think of it, you do... :-) Won't you please take a minute to make your Contribution today and support these Lists? http://www.matronics.com/contribution Or, drop a personal check in the mail to: Matt Dralle / Matronics 581 Jeannie Way Livermore CA 94550 USA I want to say THANK YOU to everyone that has made a Contribution thus far during this year's List Fund Raiser!! These Lists are made possible exclusively through YOUR generosity!! Thank you for your support! Matt Dralle Email List Admin. ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 11, 2018
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: A List Contribution - It's Your Personal Squelch Button...
There is an automatic "squelch button" of sorts for the Fund Raiser messages. Here's how it works... As soon as a List member makes a Contribution through the Matronics Fund Raiser web site, their email address is automatically added to this year's Contributor List and they instantly cease to receive further Fund Raiser messages for the rest of the month! Its just that simple! :-) I really do appreciate each and every one of your individual Contributions to support the Lists. It is your support that enables me to upgrade the hardware and software that are required to run a List Site such as this one. It also goes to pay for the commercial-grade Internet connection and to pay the huge electric bill to keep the computer gear running and the air conditioner powered on. I run all of the Matronics Email List and Forums sites here locally which allows me to control and monitor every aspect of the system for the utmost in reliably and performance. Your personal Contribution matters because, when combined with other Listers such as yourself, it pays the bills to keep this site up and running. I accept exactly ZERO advertising dollars for the Matronics Lists sites. I can't stand the pop-up ads and all other commercials that are so prevalent on the Internet these days and I particularly don't want to have it on my Email List sites. If you appreciate the ad-free, grass-roots, down-home feel of the Matronics Email Lists, please make a Contribution to keep it that way!! http://www.matronics.com/contribution or, you can send a personal check to the following address: Matronics / Matt Dralle 581 Jeannie Way Livermore, CA 94550 Thank you! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator [Note that there are certain circumstances where you might still see a Contribution related message. For example, if someone replies to one of the messages, when using the List Browse feature, or when accessing List message via the Forum. The system keys on the given email address and since most of these are anonymous public access methods, there is no simple way to filter them.] ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 13, 2018
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Just A Few Days Left...
Dear Listers, There are just a few days left for this year's List Fund Raiser. If you've been putting off making a Contribution until the last minute, well, this is it! The last minute, that is... :-) There are some GREAT new gift selections to choose from this year. I personally want at least three of them! There's probably something you can't live without too! And, best of all it supports your Lists! Please remember that there isn't any sort of commercial advertising on the Lists and the *only* means of keeping these Lists running is through your Contributions during this Fund Raiser. Please make a Contribution today! http://www.matronics.com/contribution Or, drop a personal check in the mail to: Matt Dralle / Matronics 581 Jeannie Way Livermore CA 94550 Thank you! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 15, 2018
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Make Sure You're Listed! List of Contributors Coming
Soon! Dear Listers, There's just two more days left in this year's List Fund Raiser and that means the List of Contributors (LOC) is just around the corner! In December I post a list of everyone that so generously made a Contribution to support the Lists. Its my way of publicly thanking everyone that took a minute to show their appreciation for the Lists. Won't you take minute and assure that your name is on the upcoming LOC? Tell others that you appreciate the Lists. Making a Contribution to support the Lists is fast and easy using your Visa, MasterCard, or Paypal account: http://www.matronics.com/contribution Or, drop a personal check in the mail to: Matt Dralle / Matronics 581 Jeannie Way Livermore CA 94550 I would like to thank everyone that has so generously made a Contribution thus far during this year's List Fund Raiser! Remember that its YOUR support that keeps these Lists running and improving! Don't forget to include a little comment about how the Lists have helped you! Thank you! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 17, 2018
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Reminder
Dear Listers, A quick reminder that November is the annual Matronics List Fund Raiser. The Lists are 100% member supported and all of the operational costs are covered solely through your Contributions during this time of the year. *Your* personal Contribution makes a difference and keeps all of the Matronics Email Lists and Forums completely ad-free. Please make your Contribution today to keep these services up and running for another great year! Use a credit card or your PayPal account here: http://www.matronics.com/contribution Or, by sending a personal check to: Matronics / Matt Dralle 581 Jeannie Way Livermore CA 94550 Thank you in advance! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List and Forum Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 19, 2018
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: LOC
Dear Listers, Each year at the end of the List Fund Raiser, I post a message acknowledging everyone that so generously made a Contribution to support the Lists. Its sort of my way of publicly thanking everyone that took a minute to show their appreciation for the Lists. Won't you take a moment and assure that your name is on that List of Contributors (LOC)? As a number of members have pointed out over the years, the List seems at least - if not a whole lot more - valuable as a building/flying/recreating/entertainment tool as your typical magazine subscription! Please take minute and assure that your name is on this year's LOC! Show others that you appreciate the Lists. Making a Contribution to support the Lists is fast and easy using your Credit card or Paypal on the Secure Web Site: http://www.matronics.com/contribution or by popping a personal check in the mail to: Matronics Email Lists c/o Matt Dralle 581 Jeannie Way Livermore CA 94550 I would like to thank everyone that has so generously made a Contribution thus far in this year's List Fund Raiser! Remember that its YOUR support that keeps these Lists going and improving! Don't forget to include a little comment about how the Lists have helped you! Best regards, Matt Dralle Email List Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 21, 2018
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Please Make a Contribution to Support Your Lists...
Dear Listers, Just a reminder that November is the Annual List Fund Raiser. Please make a Contribution today to support the continued operation and upgrade of these great List services!! Pick up a really nice free gift with your qualifying Contribution too! The Contribution Site is fast and easy: http://www.matronics.com/contribution or by dropping a personal check in the mail to: Matt Dralle / Matronics 581 Jeannie Way Livermore CA 94550 Thank you! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 23, 2018
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Just A Few Days Left...
Dear Listers, There are just a few days left for this year's List Fund Raiser. If you've been putting off making a Contribution until the last minute, well, this is it! The last minute, that is... :-) There are some GREAT new gift selections to choose from this year. I personally want at least three of them! There's probably something you can't live without too! And, best of all it supports your Lists! Please remember that there isn't any sort of commercial advertising on the Lists and the *only* means of keeping these Lists running is through your Contributions during this Fund Raiser. Let's make this a "Black Friday" for the Lists! Please make a Contribution today! http://www.matronics.com/contribution Or, drop a personal check in the mail to: Matt Dralle / Matronics 581 Jeannie Way Livermore CA 94550 Thank you! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 25, 2018
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Coming Soon - The List of Contributors - Please Make A
Contribution Today! Each year at the end of the List Fund Raiser, I post a message acknowledging everyone that so generously made a Contribution to support the Lists. Its my way of publicly thanking everyone that took a minute to show their appreciation for the Lists. Please take a moment and assure that your name is on that List of Contributors (LOC)! As a number of members have pointed out over the years, the List seems at least as valuable a building / entertainment tool as your typical magazine subscription! Assure that your name is on this year's LOC! Show others that you appreciate the Lists. Making a Contribution to support the Lists is fast and easy using your Credit card or Paypal on the Secure Web Site: http://www.matronics.com/contribution or by dropping a personal check in the mail to: Matt Dralle / Matronics 581 Jeannie Way Livermore CA 94550 I would like to thank everyone that has so generously made a Contribution thus far in this year's List Fund Raiser! Remember that its YOUR support that keeps these Lists going and improving! Don't forget to include a little comment about how the Lists have helped you! Best regards, Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 27, 2018
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: What's My Contribution Used For?
Dear Listers, Some have asked, "What's my Contribution used for?" and that's a good question. Here are just a few examples of what your direct List support enables. It provides for the very expensive, commercial-grade Internet connection used on the List insuring maximum performance and minimal contention when accessing List services. It pays for the regular system hardware and software upgrades enabling the highest performance possible for services such as the Archive Search Engine, List Browser, and Forums. It pays for narly 30 years (yeah, I really said *30* years) worth of online archive data available for instant random search and access. And, it offsets the many hours spent writing, developing, and maintaining the custom applications that power this List Service such as the List Browse, Search Engine, Forums, and Wiki. But most importantly, your List Contribution enables a forum where you and your peers can communicate freely in an environment that is free from moderation, censorship, advertising, commercialism, SPAM, and computer viruses. How many places on the Internet can you make all those statements these days? It is YOUR CONTRIBUTION that directly enables these many aspects of these valuable List services. Please support it today with your List Contribution. Its one of the best investments you can make in your Sport... List Contribution Web Site: http://www.matronics.com/contribution or by dropping a personal check in the mail to: Matt Dralle / Matronics 581 Jeannie Way Livermore CA 94550 Thank you for your support! Matt Dralle Email List Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 29, 2018
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Just A Few Days Left...
Dear Listers, There are just a Two days left for this year's List Fund Raiser! If you've been putting off making a Contribution until the last minute, well, this is it! The last minute, that is... :-) There are some GREAT new gift selections to choose from this year. I personally want at least three of them! There's probably something you can't live without too! And, best of all it supports your Lists! Please remember that there isn't any sort of commercial advertising on the Lists and the *only* means of keeping these Lists running is through your Contributions during this Fund Raiser. Let's make this a "Black Friday" for the Lists! Please make a Contribution today! http://www.matronics.com/contribution Or, drop a personal check in the mail to: Matt Dralle / Matronics 581 Jeannie Way Livermore CA 94550 Thank you! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 30, 2018
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: [Please Read] - Last Official Day of List Fund Raiser!
Dear Listers, It's November 30th and that always means a couple of things. Its my birthday again - 55! :-) But it also means that it's that last official day of the Matronics Email List Fund Raiser! If you been thinking about picking up one of those really nice incentive gifts now is the time to jump on it!! If you've been meaning to make a Contribution this month but have been putting it off for some reason, NOW is the time! I will be posting the List of Contributors in a few days, so you'll probably want to be known as a person that supported the Lists! I want to thank everyone that has so generously made a Contribution this year in support of our Lists. It is your generosity that keeps this operation running and I don't ever forget it. The List Contribution Web Site is fast and easy. Please support our habit by making your Contribution right now: http://www.matronics.com/contribution Or, by dropping a personal check in the mail to: Matt Dralle / Matronics 581 Jeannie Way Livermore CA 94550 USA Thank you in advance! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Dec 19, 2018
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: 2018 List of Contributors
Dear Listers, The 2018 Matronics Email List and Forum Fund Raiser officially ended a couple of weeks ago and it's time that I published this year's List of Contributors. It is the people on this list that directly make these Email Lists and Forums possible! Their generous Contributions keep the servers and Internet connection up and running! You can still show your support this year and pick up a great gift at the same time. The Contribution Web Site is fast, easy, and secure: http://www.matronics.com/contribution Or, by dropping a personal check in the mail to: Matt Dralle / Matronics 581 Jeannie Way Livermore CA 94550 And finally, I'm proud to present The 2018 Fund Raiser List of Contributors: http://www.matronics.com/loc Thank you again to everyone that made a Contribution this year!! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List & Forum Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 01, 2019
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: PLEASE READ - Matronics Email List 2018 Fund Raiser During
November! Dear Listers, Each November I hold a PBS-like fund raiser to support the continued operation and upgrade of the Email List and Fourm Services at Matronics. It's solely through the Contributions of List members (you) that these Matronics Lists are possible. You have probably noticed that there are no banner ads or pop-up windows on any of the Matronics Lists or related web sites such as the Forums site http://forums.matronics.com , Wiki site http://wiki.matronics.com , or other related pages such as the List Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search , List Browse http://www.matronics.com/listbrowse , etc. This is because I believe in a List experience that is completely about the sport we all enjoy - namely Airplanes and not about annoying advertisements. During the month of November I will be sending out List messages every couple of days reminding everyone that the Fund Raiser is underway. I ask for your patience and understanding during the Fund Raiser and throughout these regular messages. The Fund Raiser is only financial support mechanism I have to pay all of the bills associated with running these lists. YOUR personal Contribution counts! This year we have a really HUGE and TERRIFIC line up of free gifts to go along with the various Contribution levels. In fact, there are 9 great gifts to choose from! There's something for everyone, to be sure. Please make your List Contribution using any one of three secure methods including using a Credit Card, PayPal, or by Personal Check. All three methods afford you the opportunity to select one of this year's free gifts with a qualifying Contribution amount!! To make your Contribution, please visit the secure web site: http://www.matronics.com/contribution I would like to thank everyone in advance for their generous financial AND moral support over the years! Thank you! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator RV-4/RV-6/RV-8 Builder/Rebuilder/Builder-Pilot ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 01, 2019
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: PLEASE READ - Matronics Email List 2019 Fund Raiser During
November! Dear Listers, Each November I hold a PBS-like fund raiser to support the continued operation and upgrade of the Email List and Fourm Services at Matronics. It's solely through the Contributions of List members (you) that these Matronics Lists are possible. You have probably noticed that there are no banner ads or pop-up windows on any of the Matronics Lists or related web sites such as the Forums site http://forums.matronics.com , Wiki site http://wiki.matronics.com , or other related pages such as the List Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search , List Browse http://www.matronics.com/listbrowse , etc. This is because I believe in a List experience that is completely about the sport we all enjoy - namely Airplanes and not about annoying advertisements. During the month of November I will be sending out List messages every couple of days reminding everyone that the Fund Raiser is underway. I ask for your patience and understanding during the Fund Raiser and throughout these regular messages. The Fund Raiser is only financial support mechanism I have to pay all of the bills associated with running these lists. YOUR personal Contribution counts! This year we have a really HUGE and TERRIFIC line up of free gifts to go along with the various Contribution levels. In fact, there are 12 great gifts to choose from! There's something for everyone, to be sure. Please make your List Contribution using any one of three secure methods including using a Credit Card, PayPal, or by Personal Check. All three methods afford you the opportunity to select one of this year's free gifts with a qualifying Contribution amount!! To make your Contribution, please visit the secure web site: http://www.matronics.com/contribution I would like to thank everyone in advance for their generous financial AND moral support over the years! Thank you! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator RV-4/RV-6/RV-8 Builder/Rebuilder/Builder-Pilot ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 03, 2019
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Please Make A Contribution To Support Your Lists
Dear Listers, There is no advertising income to support the Matronics Email Lists and Forums. The operation is supported 100% by your personal Contributions during the November Fund Raiser. Please make your Contribution today to support the continued operation and upgrade of these services. You can pick up a really nice gift for making your Contribution too! You may use a Credit Card or Paypal at the Matronics Contribution Site here: http://www.matronics.com/contribution or, you can send a personal check to the following address: Matronics / Matt Dralle 581 Jeannie Way Livermore, CA 94550 Thank you in advance for your generous support! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List and Forum Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 05, 2019
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Coming Soon - The List of Contributors - Please Make A
Contribution Today! Each year at the end of the List Fund Raiser, I post a message acknowledging everyone that so generously made a Contribution to support the Lists. Its my way of publicly thanking everyone that took a minute to show their appreciation for the Lists. Please take a moment and assure that your name is on that List of Contributors (LOC)! As a number of members have pointed out over the years, the List seems at least as valuable a building / entertainment tool as your typical magazine subscription! Assure that your name is on this year's LOC! Show others that you appreciate the Lists. Making a Contribution to support the Lists is fast and easy using your Credit card or Paypal on the Secure Web Site: http://www.matronics.com/contribution or by dropping a personal check in the mail to: Matt Dralle / Matronics 581 Jeannie Way Livermore CA 94550 I would like to thank everyone that has so generously made a Contribution thus far in this year's List Fund Raiser! Remember that its YOUR support that keeps these Lists going and improving! Don't forget to include a little comment about how the Lists have helped you! Best regards, Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 07, 2019
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Please Make A Contribution To Support Your Lists
Dear Listers, There is no advertising income to support the Matronics Email Lists and Forums. The operation is supported 100% by your personal Contributions during the November Fund Raiser. Please make your Contribution today to support the continued operation and upgrade

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