FEWMustang-Archive.digest.vol-ab
July 05, 2005 - November 01, 2011
In my heart or hearts, I truly believe that he will deliver the PSRU to you,
but I personally think he is stretched way beyond what he can accomplish by
himself at this time. Still, this has nothing to do what happened in the past.
We both agree the PSRU should have delivered a long time ago.
Expect to hear from me in the next day or so. If not, do not hesitate one
second to contact me. I am happy to help.as little as I have up until now.
George
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-----Original Message-----
From: Tore S. Bristol [mailto:tf51(at)c2i.net]
Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2005 2:13 PM
To: George
Subject: Re: PSRU and money
George,
another 2 1/2 weeks has come and gone, and of course I have heard nothing
from Ed.
He is the most dishonest man I have ever encountered.
Does he really think I am going to accept this?
I have been patient and polite for nearly 2 years, and lately only because
you assured me that my PSRU was there and would be ready shortly.
It is now 16 weeks since "it was ready to be shipped as soon as I told him
where"
I guess school is out and you are able to apply yourself to the new company.
Tore
----- Original Message -----
From: George
To: 'Tore S. Bristol'
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 2:58 AM
Subject: RE: PSRU and money
Tore:
I have ALWAYS been honest and frank with you. Since I am not doing the
work myself, I can only cajole Ed. Robert Oliver flew his aircraft down earlier
this week, which is a good thing. Also, I was at Santa Paula today and ED
was making arrangements with the airport to do the engine runs. I mentioned
you again, and he acknowledged my comments. I hope he will contact you.
Short of this, I can't do much more. I'm unhappy as well, but I will persist
on your behalf until it you have your PSRU. This I promise.
George
-----Original Message-----
From: Tore S. Bristol [mailto:tf51(at)c2i.net]
Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2005 4:55 PM
To: George Lazik
Subject: PSRU and money
George,
it is now more than two weeks since you said " perhaps next week things
will be resolved" ??????????????????????????????????????????????????????
I have never dealt with somebody like Ed, who will lie to a customer he
tricked into paying for something he obviously has no intention to deliver. On
top of that he admits to stealing the money which he in no way has any right
to.
I remain amazed, but i assure you I am not going to take this lying down.
I have been patient since we met in Nov because Jim Kern said you were
a totally honest person, which I would like to belive.
Regards
Tore
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| From: | PolymerDesign(at)aol.com |
I do not have any info on the tailwheel tire and hub and I'm ready to
install. Ken gottschall
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| From: | "Tore S. Bristol" <tf51(at)c2i.net> |
George Lazik.
Remember this mail?
My PSRU was ready to be tested and would be shipped in 30 days!!!! But of
course it was the same on Aug 7th 2003, and about a dozen times after that.
Ed tricked me into paying in full when he on Aug 7th 2003 said it was ready
and just waiting for " test stand time" Should be ready in 1 week.That is
now 23 months ago!
On March 2nd 2005 it was ready to shipped the same week!! But then he all of
a sudden refused to ship it before it was tested !!! Talk about catch 22!
I was perfectly willing to have it shipped without testing, as that seemed
the only way. I will open it to check it out/confirm all parts are there and
test it on my aircraft.
Against better judgement, but since you said so ( and I wanted to believe
you.) I agreed to wait 30days so I could have a tested unit.
That was more than 90 days ago.
And now it is suddenly locked up where you dont even know
I have wasted 23 months waiting for Ed to do what he has promised.
It must be pretty clear to everybody he is lying, and has been for well ower
2 years.
I noticed you are now talking about the "alledged PSRU" so I take it you
finally are seeing the truth about Ed ?
I told you about 4 months ago that I dont think he even has a unit for me.
So he can save himself and the new company by sending it ASAP.
To have it in FL by Aug 3rd , I recon he has a maximum of 3 weeks to get it
out of storage, crate it and get it on its way.
The same goes for the money he has witheld/stolen from me.
Because if I dont have the PSRU and my money by that time, I am going
after him and the company in any way I can think of. And a few more, I have
lot of retired pilot friends in the airpark who are eager to help.
This is not meant as a threat, I am just telling you, so maybe you can give
Ed a warning what will happen if he insist of going on cheating and lying.
To tell the truth I have never dealt with such a dishonest person, I just am
not used to it.
Tore
----- Original Message -----
From: "George" <glazik(at)wgn.net>
Subject: PSRU Status
Tore:
I spoke with Ed today and this is the situation as best I understand it.
He told me he has you PSRU, and it is complete and ready to go. I haven't
personally seen it, but that doesn't really mean much at this time. The
bigger issue is that the PSRU has not yet been mounted on an engine and run.
As you may or may not know, it is Ed's practice to run each PSRU for a
minimum of 10 hours before shipping it, and I agree with this policy.
Ed said he is prepared to ship your PSRU to you next week, but if he does,
he first needs some written acknowledgement from you that you are accepting
it before it has been test run. Under ordinary circumstances, I wouldn't
even consider this, but I know you are anxious to get the unit.
The alternative is to wait until it is test run, which is what I recommend.
But I imagine that if you doubt that the unit really exists, and you
certainly have every reason to do so, ask to have it shipped, and he will
ship it.
When asked how long it would take before he could test and then ship it, Ed
said he would test run your unit for at least 10 hours and then ship it
within the next 30 days. To do so, he has to first get an new engine
mounted on the test stand, etc. As you know, Ed has just relocated to the
new facility, so I know for a fact that things are a bit "untidy" at this
time. He is working hard to get things in order as soon as he can but it's
a lot of work.
So, the decision is yours to make. He will do whatever you wish.
Please understand that I am not playing politics. I am just trying to give
you the most accurate assesment I can. I want you to be satisfied, but I
also want you to be safe.
As a final note, I've attached several documents to this email message. I
hope you find them informative. They have not yet been sent out ot anyone
else, but I think you deserve some special consideration. Please do not
forward them on to others until I have a chance to review them and include
additional attachements. They wil be going out to everyone in the next few
days.
Thank you, and please feel free to contact me any time you wish.
George
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| From: | "Tore S. Bristol" <tf51(at)c2i.net> |
George,
yes I strongly advise you talk to Ed.
And I don=B4t need any excuses or lies from him, I have heard it all before.
For his own good he better start moving at once if he wants to make go of the new
company.
My patience has definately run out.
He has had 2 years to do what he has been paid to do, and so far I have nothing
to show for the money I have paid, and the patience I have shown.
And on top of that he has taken another 2000$ of my money!
You can start by making it crystal clear to him that he has just 3 weeks to do
it in before I start coming after him in every way I can think of, including legal
action.
Tore
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| From: | HMS23TURBO(at)aol.com |
Tore,
You will have it all by the end of the month. I have been working hard to
keep the company afloat and will instead focus on your PSRU testing and get it
in your hands ASAP.
Ed
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Tore S. Bristol" <tf51(at)c2i.net> |
----- Original Message -----
From: HMS23TURBO(at)aol.com
Subject: PSRU
Tore,
I now have all the pieces I need to do the update on your PSRU. I'll be out of
my office on other business until the 7th. Upon my return your unit is absolute
first on my list of items to get done. It will ship by the end of August.
Ed
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Tore S. Bristol" <tf51(at)c2i.net> |
Ed,
stop whining. It is you who have taken my money, and lied to me for 23
months, whithout giving me anything but countless broken promises.
It better be in my hands by the end of the month. If not I will do my utmost
to warn as many as I can so they are not cheated too.
I already have a draft ready to post on any homebuilder site I can find, and
I am preparing a letter to magazines read by homebuilders.
By the way, remember this message you sent me? It sounds remarkably like the
one you sent today. Note the date!! This is one of many I have received
during the last 2 years! (See attachment)
I am sure you were trying to keep costs down. Your costs that is by taking
my money and giving me nothing. I am fed up with your games.
Tore S Bristol
----- Original Message -----
From: <HMS23TURBO(at)aol.com>
Subject: Re: FEWMustang-List: My Psru
>
> Tore,
>
> You will have it all by the end of the month. I have been working hard to
> keep the company afloat and will instead focus on your PSRU testing and
> get it
> in your hands ASAP.
>
> Ed
>
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Tore S. Bristol" <tf51(at)c2i.net> |
This was received from ED Hullinger July 28th 2004!
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tore S. Bristol" <tf51(at)c2i.net>
Subject: FEWMustang-List: Fw: PSRU
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: HMS23TURBO(at)aol.com
> To: Bristolsabre(at)aol.com
> Subject: PSRU
>
>
> Tore,
>
> I now have all the pieces I need to do the update on your PSRU. I'll be
> out of my office on other business until the 7th. Upon my return your unit
> is absolute first on my list of items to get done. It will ship by the end
> of August.
>
> Ed
>
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | PolymerDesign(at)aol.com |
Hey guys, I've got a second question beside wheel and hub. What does the up
lock fitting look like that screws into the tailwheel fork. I got no drawings
or parts from kern even though I paid for them. Any help appreciated. Ken
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Cliff Hoyle" <c.hoyle(at)comcast.net> |
Ken, have you gotten answers to your two questions about the tail wheel? If
not let me know and I will try to help. I have a "Kern" full size drawing of
the tailwheel box that might help. Cliff
-------Original Message-------
From: PolymerDesign(at)aol.com
Date: 07/06/05 18:15:20
Subject: FEWMustang-List: Tailwheel
Hey guys, I've got a second question beside wheel and hub. What does the up
lock fitting look like that screws into the tailwheel fork. I got no
drawings
or parts from kern even though I paid for them. Any help appreciated. Ken
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | PolymerDesign(at)aol.com |
No replies yet. What I specifically need is the tire and hub to use and what
the fitting looks like that holds the gear up. Thanks Ken
________________________________________________________________________________
Ken G:
If you want to give me a fax number, I'll send you all the (~15)pages of
the tail wheel assembly. I don't know the tire and hub, its 8", and I seem
to recall Jim saying that it was std Maule. LRE
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| From: | PolymerDesign(at)aol.com |
My fax number is 618-234-2330. Thanks Do your pages show the fitting that
screws in to the side of the fork for the uplock? Thanks Ken
________________________________________________________________________________
Ken G;
How much of the tailwheel instructions do you need? Do you have any?
I have a drawing of the uplock hook, but I think you are looking for what
goes on the tailwheel fork to engage the hook. That is simply an AN-3 bolt
drilled into the fork. I don't have any drawings, but can take some photos, if
that's what you need.
There is really a lot to fax if you want it all. Some are oversized
and can't be Faxed, so If you everything I have, I'll copy it and send it by
"snail mail". LRE
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| From: | PolymerDesign(at)AOL.COM |
Laary, I got several drawings from Ivo that I can use so you won't need to
fax. My hang up now is the an3 bolt. How does the uplock arm engage the bolt.?
Ken
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| From: | "Tore S. Bristol" <tf51(at)c2i.net> |
Ed,
the end of the month is 4 days away so I assume it is underway.
I am ready.
Do you have a tracking no. ?
Tore
----- Original Message -----
From: <HMS23TURBO(at)aol.com>
Subject: Re: FEWMustang-List: My Psru
>
> Tore,
>
> You will have it all by the end of the month. I have been working hard to
> keep the company afloat and will instead focus on your PSRU testing and
> get it
> in your hands ASAP.
>
> Ed
>
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Tore S. Bristol" <tf51(at)c2i.net> |
Ed,
just to remind you ;as you can see from your mail below, today we "celebrate the
2 year anniversary" since my PSRU
" Was finished in a couple of days"
Since then you have promised appx. 15 times that you would ship it
" next week"
You have deliberately lied to me for 2 years!!
You tricked me into sending the money for the PSRU 2 years ago, and you have also
stolen 2000$ from me.You told me in april 2004; "you will have your money this
week".
The last I heard from you was July 6th, when you again said " you will have by
the end of the month" !!! July has come and gone, and of course I have no PSRU.
As you may remember, If I do not get the PSRU and my money now, I will take action
against you.
Tore
----- Original Message -----
From: HMS23TURBO(at)aol.com
To: Tore S. Bristol
Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2003 2:34 AM
Subject: PSRU
Tore,
I hope you made it home safely
Just letting you know that I'm working on your PSRU at the moment. A coupe of
days and it will be completed. Likely run the pre-delivery test early next week.
Dave Bothe came out for a couple of days for a bit of inspiration.
Ed
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Peter Davidson" <pdavidson(at)familynet.net> |
| Subject: | A want-to-be Mustang pilot |
Hello all,
I've been monitoring this mail list for a while now and there doesn't seem
to be much activity, so I don't know if this question is ok to ask on here
or not. But here's the situation:
My grandpa was once a Mustang pilot. At the end of WWII, he flew the P-51
in Germany. From the stories he tells me, he seems like he was a good one.
I'm currently a commercial pilot. I'd like to find someone who has a
Mustang with a back seat that would be willing to allow me to get trained to
fly it so I could take my grandpa for a ride and help him relive his flying
days. I realize this is no small request. It will be very expensive if
it's even possible.
Peter
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Cory Emberson" <bootless(at)earthlink.net> |
| Subject: | A want-to-be Mustang pilot |
Peter, where do you live?
best, Cory
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-fewmustang-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-fewmustang-list-server(at)matronics.com]On Behalf Of Peter
Davidson
Subject: FEWMustang-List: A want-to-be Mustang pilot
Hello all,
I've been monitoring this mail list for a while now and there doesn't seem
to be much activity, so I don't know if this question is ok to ask on here
or not. But here's the situation:
My grandpa was once a Mustang pilot. At the end of WWII, he flew the P-51
in Germany. From the stories he tells me, he seems like he was a good one.
I'm currently a commercial pilot. I'd like to find someone who has a
Mustang with a back seat that would be willing to allow me to get trained to
fly it so I could take my grandpa for a ride and help him relive his flying
days. I realize this is no small request. It will be very expensive if
it's even possible.
Peter
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Bill Smith <ocleju(at)yahoo.com> |
| Subject: | Alternative Engines - Geo/Suzuki |
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| Subject: | Re: A want-to-be Mustang pilot |
| From: | pdavidson(at)familynet.net |
Cory,
I live in Tulsa, OK
-Peter
>
>
> Peter, where do you live?
>
> best, Cory
>
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| From: | "Cory Emberson" <bootless(at)earthlink.net> |
| Subject: | Re: A want-to-be Mustang pilot |
I know a couple of guys down your way - maybe they know of someone. There
is/was a flying Mustang here in the Bay Area of Northern CA, but don't know
its status now.
Let me see what I can find...
best, Cory
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-fewmustang-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-fewmustang-list-server(at)matronics.com]On Behalf Of
pdavidson(at)familynet.net
Subject: FEWMustang-List: Re: A want-to-be Mustang pilot
Cory,
I live in Tulsa, OK
-Peter
>
>
> Peter, where do you live?
>
> best, Cory
>
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| From: | "Tore S. Bristol" <tf51(at)c2i.net> |
| Subject: | Ed Hullinger/PSRU/Authentic TF51 Mustang |
George,
I am really tired of this problem with Ed, and it is quite clear that he does not
have, and never will have the PSRU I paid for.
I notice you have never answered my question; have you ever seen the unit he claims
have been "ready to ship" for the last 2 years?
I distinctly remember in CA last fall you saying you would have nothing to do with
Ed and the new company if you found he was not honest!!
Really!!
How much proof do you need?
He promised AGAIN that I would have it by the end of the month. (July) but of
course I have heard nothing since July 6th.
So I=B4ll go ahead and get legal advice from my lawyer neighbour in the airpark,and
prepare a statement to post to all web sites I can think of, as well as Sport
Aviation, Kitplanes and so on.
This is not something I am happy about, but Ed is a liar and has stolen my money,
so I=B4ll try to warn as many as I can.
We have a saying in Norway; "He shot himself in the foot" and that is what Ed
is doing here.
I think he will have a hard time making a go of the company after that, but that
is his choice.
I am not happy on behalf of the investors, but Ed has had 2 years to put this right.
You know of course that he also owes Dave Bothe 25000$?
Regards
Tore
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| From: | HMS23TURBO(at)aol.com |
| Subject: | Re: Fw: Ed Hullinger/PSRU/Authentic TF51 Mustang |
Tore,
I have nothing to say but that I am truly sorry for all of the aggravation
that I have caused. I have obviously bitten off more than I can chew taking on
all of the old headaches from FEW. The delays are justified but I will no
longer make these excuses. I will simply ship your unit un-tested and leave it
at that. This makes me very uncomfortable, and as a pilot yourself I'm sure
that you understand my apprehension in doing this. I have seen two crashed
aircraft due to PSRU failures and read about many more and am doing all I can
to
prevent even more such incidences. Take it from someone that has flown
behind an automotive engine turning max rpms on takeoff- it is damned scary at
times and the PSRU is a necessary link in the system - one not to be taken
lightly. Having said that, I just need a shipping address and the unit is on it's
way.
Again, I apologize and only hope that we can see past this situation and
find a solution in the near future to getting the proper test procedures
completed on this unit prior to your first flight. I am guilty of many, many screw
ups in doing this business, but I have never wanted to cut corners or take
chances on items as critical as a PSRU. I'm sure that you will understand that
I
will have to generate some sort of liability waiver since we are proceeding
this way.
Please accept my apology Tore. I'm not the bad guy that you make me out to
be. I am just one guy simply struggling to hold this all together and rebuild
the company into what we all need to support and maintain our projects.
Without an ongoing FEW / Legendary Aircraft LLC entity, we will all own worthless
orphan aircraft that have no place in the industry and have little or no
value.
Ed Hullinger
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Tore S. Bristol" <tf51(at)c2i.net> |
| Subject: | Re: PRSU delivery |
Tom,
thank you for the sympatetic words.I had a wife like that once so I know the symptoms!
As you may have seen I paid for my unit 2 years ago, when it according to Ed was
finished.
At first I was not even interested in this PSRU after all the problems FEW had
with it, but Ed kept bombarding me with E-mails telling me mine was next in line
for delivery.
Now I think Ed may have solved most of the problems, but that does not help me,
as my project has been at a standstill for 18 months waiting for the PSRU.
As you can see from the mail Ed posted on the list today, he is now going to send
it right away; for the 16th time !!!!!
He also said that in early April 05; as soon as he got my adress in FL ( which
he has had for 18 months or more)
He said the same again on July the 6th ; You will have it ALL by the end of the
month.
Meaning I guess the PSRU AND the money he owes me.
So I have seen it all before, but I guess he posted this mail to make himself and
Legendary Aircraft LLC look better.
What happens every time is this; after promising to send it right away he goes
silent for a couple of months and the whole charade starts all over again.
And usually some catch 22 comes up after he promises to ship it. I am sure that
will happen this time too.
And there are about 6 other people waiting for their units after me !!!!
It would not be so bad if he had come clean and worked something out with us, instead
of lying, and making promises he does not intend to keep.
I do not know if he thinks he can get away with this because I live in Norway most
of the year, but I am not taking this anymore.
I cannot understand him; he must surelely understand he will have a very hard
time making a go of the company as long as his credibility is below zero ?
As to his location; I belive he has now moved to Santa Paula airport in CA.
Regards
Tore
Moss Norway/Lake City FL
----- Original Message -----
From: Tom Barnes
To: tf51(at)c2i.net
Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2005 1:39 AM
Subject: PRSU delivery
Tore,
I have been lurking on this list for a long time now and have observed your
conversations with Ed. I have a sister-in-law who has the same profile of
this guy. It is a sickness for her and may be for Ed. At this point, I can't
imagine you getting your delivery. Where does this guy live? Maybe a dead skunk
in his bed might get his attention.
Tom
NE Illinois
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| From: | Kenneth Melvin <melvinke(at)direcway.com> |
| Subject: | RE: FEWMustang-List Digest: 2 Msgs - 08/10/05 |
Well said, Ed! I believe most of us understand the extent of your commitment
to quality and the success of the enterprise, along with your honest
determination to make good any inherited arrears. You deserve our
congratulations for the progress to date, and best wishes for a successful
venture with Legendary Aircraft.
Kenneth Melvin
FEW P51D
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1. 01:01 PM - Ed Hullinger/PSRU/Authentic TF51 Mustang (Tore S.
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From: "Tore S. Bristol" <tf51(at)c2i.net>
Subject: FEWMustang-List: Ed Hullinger/PSRU/Authentic TF51 Mustang
George,
I am really tired of this problem with Ed, and it is quite clear that he
does not have, and never will have the PSRU I paid for.
I notice you have never answered my question; have you ever seen the unit he
claims have been "ready to ship" for the last 2 years?
I distinctly remember in CA last fall you saying you would have nothing to
do with Ed and the new company if you found he was not honest!!
Really!!
How much proof do you need?
He promised AGAIN that I would have it by the end of the month. (July) but
of course I have heard nothing since July 6th.
So I=B4ll go ahead and get legal advice from my lawyer neighbour in the
airpark,and prepare a statement to post to all web sites I can think of, as
well as Sport Aviation, Kitplanes and so on.
This is not something I am happy about, but Ed is a liar and has stolen my
money, so I=B4ll try to warn as many as I can.
We have a saying in Norway; "He shot himself in the foot" and that is what
Ed is doing here.
I think he will have a hard time making a go of the company after that, but
that is his choice.
I am not happy on behalf of the investors, but Ed has had 2 years to put
this right.
You know of course that he also owes Dave Bothe 25000$?
Regards
Tore
________________________________ Message 2
_____________________________________
From: HMS23TURBO(at)aol.com
Subject: FEWMustang-List: Re: Fw: Ed Hullinger/PSRU/Authentic TF51 Mustang
Tore,
I have nothing to say but that I am truly sorry for all of the aggravation
that I have caused. I have obviously bitten off more than I can chew taking
on
all of the old headaches from FEW. The delays are justified but I will no
longer make these excuses. I will simply ship your unit un-tested and leave
it
at that. This makes me very uncomfortable, and as a pilot yourself I'm sure
that you understand my apprehension in doing this. I have seen two crashed
aircraft due to PSRU failures and read about many more and am doing all I
can to prevent even more such incidences. Take it from someone that has
flown behind an automotive engine turning max rpms on takeoff- it is damned
scary at
times and the PSRU is a necessary link in the system - one not to be taken
lightly. Having said that, I just need a shipping address and the unit is
on it's
way.
Again, I apologize and only hope that we can see past this situation and
find a solution in the near future to getting the proper test procedures
completed on this unit prior to your first flight. I am guilty of many,
many screw
ups in doing this business, but I have never wanted to cut corners or take
chances on items as critical as a PSRU. I'm sure that you will understand
that I will have to generate some sort of liability waiver since we are
proceeding this way.
Please accept my apology Tore. I'm not the bad guy that you make me out to
be. I am just one guy simply struggling to hold this all together and
rebuild
the company into what we all need to support and maintain our projects.
Without an ongoing FEW / Legendary Aircraft LLC entity, we will all own
worthless
orphan aircraft that have no place in the industry and have little or no
value.
Ed Hullinger
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Tore S. Bristol" <tf51(at)c2i.net> |
| Subject: | Re: RE: FEWMustang-List Digest: 2 Msgs - 08/10/05 |
Ken,
This is nearly the same he said in March, but is still untrue, so I cant see
what is so well said.
I have actually asked to get the PSRU untested, but big surprise; I did not
get it " by the end of the month" as promised this time either.
I have no problem seeing Eds commitment, but I honestly belive he should
have delivered what he said was ready and therefor paid for before commiting
himself further.
He may also well be honest, but I have to judge him by his actions against
me.
And the fact is that he told me my 2 years ago my PSRU was finished, and
then asked to be paid. That I did, and on top of that he has $2000 of my
money.
He has been promising to send the PSRU AND my money 15 times for
in theese 2 years!!!
If that is honest you certainly have a different definition of honest from
us in Europe.
I remember we have discussed all this on the net, and also in CA last fall.
If I am not mistaken you have got your PSRU, so it is easy to be patient,
while I have paid good money + the $2000 Ed has kept, and have nothing.
And I really need it; my project has come to a halt waiting for it.
Regards
Tore
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kenneth Melvin" <melvinke(at)direcway.com>
Subject: FEWMustang-List: RE: FEWMustang-List Digest: 2 Msgs - 08/10/05
>
>
> Well said, Ed! I believe most of us understand the extent of your
> commitment
> to quality and the success of the enterprise, along with your honest
> determination to make good any inherited arrears. You deserve our
> congratulations for the progress to date, and best wishes for a successful
> venture with Legendary Aircraft.
> Kenneth Melvin
> FEW P51D
>
>
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> 1. 01:01 PM - Ed Hullinger/PSRU/Authentic TF51 Mustang (Tore S.
> Bristol)
> 2. 10:06 PM - Re: Fw: Ed Hullinger/PSRU/Authentic TF51 Mustang
> (HMS23TURBO(at)aol.com)
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 1
> _____________________________________
>
>
> From: "Tore S. Bristol" <tf51(at)c2i.net>
> Subject: FEWMustang-List: Ed Hullinger/PSRU/Authentic TF51 Mustang
>
>
> George,
> I am really tired of this problem with Ed, and it is quite clear that he
> does not have, and never will have the PSRU I paid for.
> I notice you have never answered my question; have you ever seen the unit
> he
> claims have been "ready to ship" for the last 2 years?
> I distinctly remember in CA last fall you saying you would have nothing to
> do with Ed and the new company if you found he was not honest!!
> Really!!
> How much proof do you need?
> He promised AGAIN that I would have it by the end of the month. (July)
> but
> of course I have heard nothing since July 6th.
> So I=B4ll go ahead and get legal advice from my lawyer neighbour in the
> airpark,and prepare a statement to post to all web sites I can think of,
> as
> well as Sport Aviation, Kitplanes and so on.
> This is not something I am happy about, but Ed is a liar and has stolen my
> money, so I=B4ll try to warn as many as I can.
> We have a saying in Norway; "He shot himself in the foot" and that is what
> Ed is doing here.
> I think he will have a hard time making a go of the company after that,
> but
> that is his choice.
> I am not happy on behalf of the investors, but Ed has had 2 years to put
> this right.
> You know of course that he also owes Dave Bothe 25000$?
>
> Regards
> Tore
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 2
> _____________________________________
>
>
> From: HMS23TURBO(at)aol.com
> Subject: FEWMustang-List: Re: Fw: Ed Hullinger/PSRU/Authentic TF51 Mustang
>
>
> Tore,
>
> I have nothing to say but that I am truly sorry for all of the aggravation
> that I have caused. I have obviously bitten off more than I can chew
> taking
> on
>
> all of the old headaches from FEW. The delays are justified but I will no
> longer make these excuses. I will simply ship your unit un-tested and
> leave
> it
>
> at that. This makes me very uncomfortable, and as a pilot yourself I'm
> sure
> that you understand my apprehension in doing this. I have seen two
> crashed
> aircraft due to PSRU failures and read about many more and am doing all I
> can to prevent even more such incidences. Take it from someone that has
> flown behind an automotive engine turning max rpms on takeoff- it is
> damned
> scary at
>
> times and the PSRU is a necessary link in the system - one not to be
> taken
> lightly. Having said that, I just need a shipping address and the unit is
> on it's
>
> way.
>
> Again, I apologize and only hope that we can see past this situation and
> find a solution in the near future to getting the proper test procedures
> completed on this unit prior to your first flight. I am guilty of many,
> many screw
>
> ups in doing this business, but I have never wanted to cut corners or
> take
> chances on items as critical as a PSRU. I'm sure that you will understand
> that I will have to generate some sort of liability waiver since we are
> proceeding this way.
>
> Please accept my apology Tore. I'm not the bad guy that you make me out to
> be. I am just one guy simply struggling to hold this all together and
> rebuild
>
> the company into what we all need to support and maintain our projects.
> Without an ongoing FEW / Legendary Aircraft LLC entity, we will all own
> worthless
>
> orphan aircraft that have no place in the industry and have little or no
> value.
>
> Ed Hullinger
>
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Tore S. Bristol" <tf51(at)c2i.net> |
| Subject: | Fw: Fw: Ed Hullinger/PSRU/Authentic TF51 Mustang |
----- Original Message -----
From: Tore S. Bristol
Subject: Re: Fw: Ed Hullinger/PSRU/Authentic TF51 Mustang
Ed,
You have said so before, and it does not help me much.
It is certainly good that you dont want to cut any corners, but how about leveling
with me, and stop lying when you say you are sending the PSRU and the money
that you have kept?
I accept your apology, but you have said the same before, last time in March 05,
and it sounds sort of hollow after a few times.
I am not making you out to be a bad guy, you manage that yourself by your actions.
It is up to you to prove you are not.
And my project has been an wortless orphan for 18 mnts thanks to you.
And please stop hiding behind FEW/Legendary Aircraft, it was not even started until
well over 18 months AFTER you said my PSRU was finished, and has nothing
to do with me in that respect.
I have been more than patient with you, and this is it.
You are again asking for my adress, which I have given many times, last on March
2nd when you were going to ship it " within a week" AGAIN !!
Adress;
Tore S Bristol
408 SW Airpark Glen
Lake City
32025 FL
I am returning to Lake City tomorrow, and if I do not have information that it
has been shipped ( including a tracking no) by next friday Aug 19th I will take
the steps I have outlined to George.
That includes postings to warn people not to do business with you on every aviation
related web site I can think of.
Also I have a draft for a warning to be sent to Sport Aviation- Kitplanes and similar
magazines.
I will also consult the lawyer in the airpark about legal action.
I hate to do this, but after 2 years of deceit it seems to be the only way.
The PSRU, when shipped will be complete with nothing missing, and in perfect working
order.
AND NO MORE OF THE: " IT WILL SHIP NEXT WEEK/ YOU WILL HAVE IT BY THE END OF THE
MONTH/ CAN I HAVE 3 WEEKS TO TEST IT" BULLSHIT.
I have heard that for 2 years, and I have had it
Hope I have made myself clear
Regards
Tore.
----- Original Message -----
From: HMS23TURBO(at)aol.com
To: tf51(at)c2i.net
Cc: fewmustang-list(at)matronics.com
Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2005 7:06 AM
Subject: Re: Fw: Ed Hullinger/PSRU/Authentic TF51 Mustang
Tore,
I have nothing to say but that I am truly sorry for all of the aggravation that
I have caused. I have obviously bitten off more than I can chew taking on all
of the old headaches from FEW. The delays are justified but I will no longer
make these excuses. I will simply ship your unit un-tested and leave it at that.
This makes me very uncomfortable, and as a pilot yourself I'm sure that you
understand my apprehension in doing this. I have seen two crashed aircraft
due to PSRU failures and read about many more and am doing all I can to prevent
even more such incidences. Take it from someone that has flown behind an automotive
engine turning max rpms on takeoff- it is damned scary at times and the
PSRU is a necessary link in the system - one not to be taken lightly. Having
said that, I just need a shipping address and the unit is on it's way.
Again, I apologize and only hope that we can see past this situation and find
a solution in the near future to getting the proper test procedures completed
on this unit prior to your first flight. I am guilty of many, many screw ups
in doing this business, but I have never wanted to cut corners or take chances
on items as critical as a PSRU. I'm sure that you will understand that I will
have to generate some sort of liability waiver since we are proceeding this way.
Please accept my apology Tore. I'm not the bad guy that you make me out to be.
I am just one guy simply struggling to hold this all together and rebuild the
company into what we all need to support and maintain our projects. Without
an ongoing FEW / Legendary Aircraft LLC entity, we will all own worthless orphan
aircraft that have no place in the industry and have little or no value.
Ed Hullinger
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Tore S. Bristol" <tf51(at)c2i.net> |
| Subject: | Re: PRSU delivery |
Tom,
thanks again for your moral support, I am really tired of this.
I have been over to see him twice, but every time he has promised " it is ready
next week" or similar.
I actually have a friend in Tampa who is a retired policeman (HUGE) who have offered
to look him up when he is out there on classic car business.
But I thought I would try with legal means.
I am Norwegian and feel I need to this right, but I am ready to take action by
the end of next week.
If that does not work I might look at other options.
Tore
----- Original Message -----
From: Tom Barnes
To: Tore S. Bristol
Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2005 5:35 PM
Subject: Re: PRSU delivery
Tore,
I feel for you especially because you are across the country in Fla. and
can not walk up and knock on his door with a few strong arm friends. The next
time he makes a promise, you should hire someone to pick it up for you. Maybe
an off duty police/security officer. Or, put him on the hot seat and tell him
no need to send it, that sometime within the next month your "boys" will be
over to pick it up.
Tom
----- Original Message -----
From: Tore S. Bristol
To: fewmustang-list(at)matronics.com
Cc: Tom Barnes
Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2005 3:19 AM
Subject: Re: PRSU delivery
Tom,
thank you for the sympatetic words.I had a wife like that once so I know the
symptoms!
As you may have seen I paid for my unit 2 years ago, when it according to Ed
was finished.
At first I was not even interested in this PSRU after all the problems FEW
had with it, but Ed kept bombarding me with E-mails telling me mine was next
in line for delivery.
Now I think Ed may have solved most of the problems, but that does not help
me, as my project has been at a standstill for 18 months waiting for the PSRU.
As you can see from the mail Ed posted on the list today, he is now going to
send it right away; for the 16th time !!!!!
He also said that in early April 05; as soon as he got my adress in FL ( which
he has had for 18 months or more)
He said the same again on July the 6th ; You will have it ALL by the end of
the month.
Meaning I guess the PSRU AND the money he owes me.
So I have seen it all before, but I guess he posted this mail to make himself
and
Legendary Aircraft LLC look better.
What happens every time is this; after promising to send it right away he goes
silent for a couple of months and the whole charade starts all over again.
And usually some catch 22 comes up after he promises to ship it. I am sure
that will happen this time too.
And there are about 6 other people waiting for their units after me !!!!
It would not be so bad if he had come clean and worked something out with us,
instead of lying, and making promises he does not intend to keep.
I do not know if he thinks he can get away with this because I live in Norway
most of the year, but I am not taking this anymore.
I cannot understand him; he must surelely understand he will have a very hard
time making a go of the company as long as his credibility is below zero ?
As to his location; I belive he has now moved to Santa Paula airport in CA.
Regards
Tore
Moss Norway/Lake City FL
----- Original Message -----
From: Tom Barnes
To: tf51(at)c2i.net
Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2005 1:39 AM
Subject: PRSU delivery
Tore,
I have been lurking on this list for a long time now and have observed
your conversations with Ed. I have a sister-in-law who has the same profile
of this guy. It is a sickness for her and may be for Ed. At this point, I can't
imagine you getting your delivery. Where does this guy live? Maybe a dead
skunk in his bed might get his attention.
Tom
NE Illinois
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Tore S. Bristol" <tf51(at)c2i.net> |
ED HULLINGER,
as you may remember you sent this July 6th.this year
It is now 3 weeks past " BY THE END OF THE MONTH"- AGAIN !!!!!!! But maybe you
don't remember, you have lied to me so many times the last 2 years
that you have probably lost track.
But I have not; this is the 16th time you have promised to ship my unit; "as soon
as I have your adress/ within a week/by the end of the month/ as soon as tested/
I am looking for the best shipping rate"-and so on.
It is now more than 2 years since it " was ready, waiting for teststand time.
I am not used to doing business with compulsive liars and crooks, and for quite
some time i believed you and wanted to give you a chance to prove me wrong,
but it seems clear that you have used the money I paid for the PSRU ( and the $2000
you have stolen) to sponsor the other PSRUs or to pay for your BMW or
your mortage.
You also sent a message saying you are not such a bad person as I make you out
to be- really?
Also ; grow up and be a man, stop whining like a little girl about "keeping the
company alive" that happened nearly 2 years after my unit was paid for, and has
nothing to do with me.
The fact is; I was led to pay for something I never got, and you obviously never
intend to give me.
But now my patience has come to an end, and I have an appointment on monday with
Mr T. Sawyer, who is a lawyer, a neighbour and a pilot here in the airpark.
After consulting with him I will take action any way I can, and try to stop you
from cheating more people.
I am really sorry on behalf of the investors, but I see no other way to stop you
cheating more people.
I am sure I know, and can reach so many people in the homebuilding community through
the internet, that I will make it unlikely that you will ever make a go
of the company.
Impressive new website by the way.
Tore
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <HMS23TURBO(at)aol.com>
> To:
> Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2005 4:43 PM
> Subject: Re: FEWMustang-List: My Psru
>
>
>>
>> Tore,
>>
>> You will have it all by the end of the month. I have been working hard to
>> keep the company afloat and will instead focus on your PSRU testing and
>> get it
>> in your hands ASAP.
>>
>> Ed
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Brett Hahn" <abakerson(at)zianet.com> |
Please take this issue offline.
Brett
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tore S. Bristol" <tf51(at)c2i.net>
Subject: Re: FEWMustang-List: My Psru
>
>
> ED HULLINGER,
> as you may remember you sent this July 6th.this year
> It is now 3 weeks past " BY THE END OF THE MONTH"- AGAIN !!!!!!! But
maybe you don't remember, you have lied to me so many times the last 2 years
> that you have probably lost track.
> But I have not; this is the 16th time you have promised to ship my unit;
"as soon as I have your adress/ within a week/by the end of the month/ as
soon as tested/
> I am looking for the best shipping rate"-and so on.
> It is now more than 2 years since it " was ready, waiting for teststand
time.
> I am not used to doing business with compulsive liars and crooks, and for
quite some time i believed you and wanted to give you a chance to prove me
wrong,
> but it seems clear that you have used the money I paid for the PSRU ( and
the $2000 you have stolen) to sponsor the other PSRUs or to pay for your
BMW or
> your mortage.
> You also sent a message saying you are not such a bad person as I make you
out to be- really?
> Also ; grow up and be a man, stop whining like a little girl about
"keeping the company alive" that happened nearly 2 years after my unit was
paid for, and has nothing to do with me.
> The fact is; I was led to pay for something I never got, and you obviously
never intend to give me.
> But now my patience has come to an end, and I have an appointment on
monday with Mr T. Sawyer, who is a lawyer, a neighbour and a pilot here in
the airpark.
> After consulting with him I will take action any way I can, and try to
stop you from cheating more people.
> I am really sorry on behalf of the investors, but I see no other way to
stop you cheating more people.
> I am sure I know, and can reach so many people in the homebuilding
community through the internet, that I will make it unlikely that you will
ever make a go of the company.
> Impressive new website by the way.
>
> Tore
>
>
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: <HMS23TURBO(at)aol.com>
> > To:
> > Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2005 4:43 PM
> > Subject: Re: FEWMustang-List: My Psru
> >
> >
> >>
> >> Tore,
> >>
> >> You will have it all by the end of the month. I have been working hard
to
> >> keep the company afloat and will instead focus on your PSRU testing and
> >> get it
> >> in your hands ASAP.
> >>
> >> Ed
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Tore S. Bristol" <tf51(at)c2i.net> |
Wish I could, but Ed Hullinger of Legendary aircraft never rplies to direct
mails.
Tore
----- Original Message -----
From: "Brett Hahn" <abakerson(at)zianet.com>
Subject: Re: FEWMustang-List: My Psru
>
> Please take this issue offline.
>
> Brett
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Tore S. Bristol" <tf51(at)c2i.net>
> To:
> Subject: Re: FEWMustang-List: My Psru
>
>
>>
>>
>> ED HULLINGER,
>> as you may remember you sent this July 6th.this year
>> It is now 3 weeks past " BY THE END OF THE MONTH"- AGAIN !!!!!!! But
> maybe you don't remember, you have lied to me so many times the last 2
> years
>> that you have probably lost track.
>> But I have not; this is the 16th time you have promised to ship my unit;
> "as soon as I have your adress/ within a week/by the end of the month/ as
> soon as tested/
>> I am looking for the best shipping rate"-and so on.
>> It is now more than 2 years since it " was ready, waiting for teststand
> time.
>> I am not used to doing business with compulsive liars and crooks, and for
> quite some time i believed you and wanted to give you a chance to prove me
> wrong,
>> but it seems clear that you have used the money I paid for the PSRU ( and
> the $2000 you have stolen) to sponsor the other PSRUs or to pay for your
> BMW or
>> your mortage.
>> You also sent a message saying you are not such a bad person as I make
>> you
> out to be- really?
>> Also ; grow up and be a man, stop whining like a little girl about
> "keeping the company alive" that happened nearly 2 years after my unit was
> paid for, and has nothing to do with me.
>> The fact is; I was led to pay for something I never got, and you
>> obviously
> never intend to give me.
>> But now my patience has come to an end, and I have an appointment on
> monday with Mr T. Sawyer, who is a lawyer, a neighbour and a pilot here in
> the airpark.
>> After consulting with him I will take action any way I can, and try to
> stop you from cheating more people.
>> I am really sorry on behalf of the investors, but I see no other way to
> stop you cheating more people.
>> I am sure I know, and can reach so many people in the homebuilding
> community through the internet, that I will make it unlikely that you will
> ever make a go of the company.
>> Impressive new website by the way.
>>
>> Tore
>>
>>
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: <HMS23TURBO(at)aol.com>
>> > To:
>> > Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2005 4:43 PM
>> > Subject: Re: FEWMustang-List: My Psru
>> >
>> >
>> >>
>> >> Tore,
>> >>
>> >> You will have it all by the end of the month. I have been working
>> >> hard
> to
>> >> keep the company afloat and will instead focus on your PSRU testing
>> >> and
>> >> get it
>> >> in your hands ASAP.
>> >>
>> >> Ed
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>>
>>
>
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Tore S. Bristol" <tf51(at)c2i.net> |
| Subject: | Promises from Ed Hullinger/ Legendary Aircraft |
Ed,
since I accepted your offer to have the mock-up PSRU in Florida in 2-3 days, 2
weeks have passed, and as usual, not a word from you.
So I guess your offer is as usual: worth nothing.
Tore
----- Original Message -----
From: HMS23TURBO(at)aol.com
To: tf51(at)c2i.net Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2005 6:32 PM
Subject: Tore's PSRU
Tore,
Please let us handle this on a different level that what is going on now. If
it continues as is, we'll end up with no FEW, no PSRU development, and no support
for the aircraft or any of it's systems.
I have asked you this before and will once again. I must test each and every
unit before it ships. After putting a lot of thought into this, I simply will
not ship something as critical as a PSRU without conducting proper testing procedures.
I would rather close the business and go broke than taking the chance
of hurting someone with an unknown, untested product bolted to their project.
If I simply sent your unit to Norway, untested and we then had a problem that
needed correction - what do we do? send it all the way back? We can avoid any
of this by testing for the prescribed 10 hours first.
I understand that your project is at a point that you can't go forward without
a PSRU. I assume that this means that you are at the stage of setting up the
cowling, installing all of the engines systems, and doing all the details of
the firewall forward. All of this work (months of work) can be completed using
a mockup unit. I have a mockup PSRU available in Syracuse NY (was just used
to set up a Lancair Legacy) as we speak (it can be shipped from my customer at
a moments notice). This unit has been installed and used in several aircraft
to accomplish just what I mentioned. Let me ship it to you at my cost and get
you back underway. As a further security, I'll send a brand new (one that was
purchased for my TF years ago) CAM-FIRE PSRU for you to have and hold onto until
your new unit arrives.
I have created a real problem by moving to our new location, in the fact that
we have to create a "special area" (cinder block walls, catch fence, and noise
suppression items) to run our test stand. You can only imagine the noise and
safety issues the "locals" have with constant high power runs that are needed
to properly develope these things. I had no problem doing this work prior to
the move but now it is a big deal. The airport has undergone a lot of scrutiny
as of late and has many sets of eyes on it and what happens there on a daily
basis. I have to be quite careful not to piss anyone off and be forced to relocate
yet again. I tried to have an engine dyno room modified for this use but
the prop noise and air movement proved to be an issue. So I'm back to doing this
work outside, across the airport, in an area that has just (completed last
week) been repaired from the damage it suffered from rains in February. No problem,
but I need to get set up again.
Please take this offer of a mockup unit and get back to work on your project
and allow me to do what is prudent and test the unit in a manner consistent with
what we have done in the past, and have proven to be successful.
Tore, I can have the mock up in Florida in two or three days, or Norway in a
week or so. This is really the best solution. What we are building (experimental
A/C, with automotive engines, PSRUs) are inherintly very dangerous, we need
to do all we can to minimalize the risks. By testing everything that that keeps
them in the air we can really increase the chances of success.
I realize that you are at you wits end with me and likely underway with some
sort of legal action, but I ask you to slow down a bit and let me do what is right.
I am a one-man show and have a huge amount on my plate. Your PSRU is a priority
to me, but I do have other things that occupy parts of my day. We will
get the tests done and you satisfied. Please allow me to do this in the right
manner.
Or, if you prefer, I will simply return any money that has been collected by
me for this project. I realize that money was deposited for your PSRU with Jim
Kern prior to my involvement. That money will need to be collected from that
end.
Ed
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Matronics Web Server Upgrade Today Tuesday 09/06/05 5pm |
PDT
Dear Listers,
I will be taking the Matronics Web Server down for a few hours today,
Tuesday September 6 2005 for a chassis upgrade. Archive browsing and
searching along with subscription services will be unavailable for
be processed normally during the upgrade. Please check the Matronics
System Status Page for updates (although this page resides on the web
server and won't be available during the upgrade):
http://www.matronics.com/SystemStatus/
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Admin.
Matt G Dralle | Matronics | PO Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551
925-606-1001 V | 925-606-6281 F | dralle(at)matronics.com Email
http://www.matronics.com/ WWW | Featuring Products For Aircraft
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| From: | PolymerDesign(at)aol.com |
I've just learned that Gary Gerber has passed away last Tuesday. He was
transporting his 51 on a trailer when in Wyoming he had a heart attack while
driving. The plane wasn't damaged. Services are this coming Tuesday in Indiana.
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Dennis Turner" <dennis.turner(at)rmci.net> |
| Subject: | Sale of Replica P-51 |
I just heard that someone in my area purchased a replica P-51 on Ebay. It
was supposedly located in the NY/New Jersey area. Anyone else heard
anything about this?
Dennis
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| From: | "Tore S. Bristol" <tf51(at)c2i.net> |
Ed Hullinger, Legendary Aircraft,
since I got your honourable offer for a mockup PSRU, and your Camfire unit as security,
and accepted, I have heard nothing from you.
Your offer was to have it in FL in 2-3 days. That was mid Aug.
I am just curious, what are your plans. Do you ever intend to send my PSRU and
the money you owe me, or are you intending to keep (steal) it?
Tore
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| From: | Bristolsabre1(at)aol.com |
| Subject: | Legendary Aircraft |
Legendary Aircraft-FEW-Ed Hullinger.
On the web page of FEW-Legendary Aircraft is said that you can now have the
PSRU for the Mustang replica !
I am still waiting for mine, which I paid for nearly 2.5 years ago, after
being informed it was ready !
Then, after 2 years of broken promises, I was offered a mock-up and a
CamFire PSRU as security. The mock- up could be here in 2-3 days, so I could get
back to building.
I accepted that in aug 2005, but since then I have heard nothing.
So it seems the "honourable offer" was not so honourable this time either.
I am just curious what Legendary Aircraft/ Ed Hullinger intend to do?
It all looks so good on their web site, but in my experience it is not
happening.
In this business the credibility of the manufacturer is all important, so I
am really interested in hearing from other builders (and Ed Hullinger) about
their experience with Legendary Aircraft/ Ed Hullinger.
Regards
Tore Bristol
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| From: | Bristolsabre1(at)aol.com |
Ed Hullinger,
I am presently in FL for an extended period of time, so I am planning
another trip to CA.
I plan to stay for a week so I have time to see you and George, and get in
contact with a lawyer.
When, during the next 3-4 weeks would be best for you?
I am using this site as you will not reply on yours.
Regards
Tore S Bristol
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| From: | Bristolsabre1(at)aol.com |
Ed Hulliger-Legendary aircraft.
As usual when I use your adress, you dont reply, so I guess you are not
receiving my mail.
As I said, I plan a trip to CA before X -mas, between X- mas and new year
will not work for me.
You did not tell me why you did not send the mock-you offered in 2-3 days
back in Aug.
Understand from your mail that you have a PSRU that is ready to test, so why
dont you get moving and do that, and ship it as you promised 28 months ago,
when I sent you the money.
Also you say in your mail that I can test it, I thought the reason I have
not received it was that YOU had to test it?
I am planning a trip on the 10th or shortly after.
Will you be there?
Regards
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| From: | Kenneth Melvin <melvinke(at)direcway.com> |
| Subject: | RE: FEWMustang-List Digest: 0 Msgs - 12/29/05 |
As a most satisfied customer, it is nice to close out 2005 with an
expression of appreciation to FEW/Legendary Aircraft/Ed Hullinger for going
the extra mile in meeting our needs, generous sharing of resources and time,
and meticulous attention to detail. Through Ed's support and advice,
P51D/N51KX now looks like it may fly in 2006.
Wishing Ed every success and prosperity during in the coming year.
Ken Melvin
Olinger Airpark, Hillsboro, Oregon.
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | All New BBS Interface For Matronics List Forums! |
Dear Listers,
I'm very proud to announce a completely new BBS interface is now available for
all of the Email Lists at Matronics! This is a full-featured system that allows
for viewing, posting, attachments, polls - the works.
But the best part is that it is *completely* integrated with all of the existing
email tools currently available at Matronics! What this means at the most basic
level is that, if you post a message to List from Email in the traditional
way, it will show up on the BBS system *and* get distributed to everyone currently
subscribed to the Email List. By the same token, if you are on the BBS
and post a message to a given List-Forum, the message will not only show up on
the BBS, but also be distributed to everyone on the Email List!!
It is really a very nice implementation and I am very pleased with its operation.
All of the tools you have come to know and love such as the List Search Engine
and List Browse and Download will still be available and contain all of the
latest posts. Think of the new BBS interface as just another method of accessing
the all of the Lists.
You can use the BBS to view all of the latest posts without having to do anything
except use your browser to surf over to the site. You can view and look at
all of the various List's posts. If you want to post a new message or reply
to an existing message from the BBS, you will have to Register on the BBS. This
is a *very* simple process and will only take a couple of minutes. There is
a small icon in the upper righthand side of the main BBS page labeled "Register"
to get you started.
I strongly recommend that you use the exact *same* email address you are subscribed
to the Email Lists with when registering on the BBS. Also, while not an
absolute requirement, I would really appreciate it if people would use their full
name when choosing their Username on the BBS (for example "Matt Dralle").
This just makes it easier for everyone to know who's posting. Also, I have enabled
the ability to upload a small user picture with your profile called an
"avatar". Please use a *real* picture of yourself *with* your cloths on! Thank
you! Maximum size of the bitmap is 120x120.
You can either be subscribed to the BBS, or any number of Email Lists, or both.
Registering on the BBS will allow you to email directly to all of the various
Lists. However, to receive direct List Email, you will need to be *subscribed*
to the various Lists as you have in the past. No changes here in operation.
I have added numerous links on the BBS pointing to the Email List subscription
page.
I've had the BBS connected to the Lists for about a week now, so its already loaded
up with a fair number of messages. You can post photos and other documents
directly to the BBS and links to them will appear in the List Email distributions.
Also, when any messages posted to the BBS are viewed in the List Email
distribution, there will be a URL link at the bottom of the message pointing
back to the BBS.
And here's what you've been waiting for -- the main URL for the new Matronics Email
List BBS is:
http://forums.matronics.com
Please surf on over, Register, and have a great time! I think this will be the
dawn of a whole new era for the Lists at Matronics!
Best regards,
Matt Dralle
Matt G Dralle | Matronics | PO Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551
925-606-1001 V | 925-606-6281 F | dralle(at)matronics.com Email
http://www.matronics.com/ WWW | Featuring Products For Aircraft
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Six New Email Lists / Forums At Matronics! |
Dear Listers,
Its my pleasure to announce the addition of six new Email List / Forums to the
aviation line up at Matronics! These new lists support all the usual features
you've come to know and love from the Matronics Email List including full integration
with the All New Web BBS Forums Site!! The new Lists include:
LycomingEngines-List Textron/Lycoming Engines
RotaxEngines-List Rotax Engine for Aircraft
M14PEngines-List Vendenyev M14P Radial Engine
MurphyMoose-List Murphy Moose Aircraft
Allegro-List Allegro 2000, a Czech-built, Rotax-powered Aircraft
Falco-List Sequoia Aircraft's Falco Experimental
To sign up for any or all of the new Lists, surf over to the Matronics Email List
Subscription Form and follow the instructions:
http://www.matronics.com/subscribe
Don't forget to check out the All New Web BBS Forum now available along with all
of the usual message and archive viewing tools at the Matronics Email Lists
site. Surf over to the following URL for information on the BBS Forum:
http://forums.matronics.com
Enjoy the new Lists!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
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| From: | "Darren Henley" <uh-1driver(at)earthlink.net> |
Hello,
Just purchased a FEW Mustang kit (no. 33) from another individual and moved it
to the Los Angeles area. Hoping to hear from other FEW builders that are willing
to share their techniques for building. Any builders on the Southern California
area?
Darren Henley
uh-1driver(at)earthlink.net
EarthLink Revolves Around You.
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| From: | PolymerDesign(at)aol.com |
Fill us in. Who did you buy your project from? Ken Gottschall
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| From: | Kenneth Melvin <melvinke(at)direcway.com> |
Congratulations! You are not too far from a great source of help at Mustang
headquarters, and Ed Hullinger, at Santa Paula. We have two Mustangs here in
Hillsboro, Oregon, both at the firewall-forward stage. From whom did you get
your kit?
Kenneth Melvin
N51KX
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-fewmustang-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-fewmustang-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Darren
Henley
Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2006 12:35 PM
Subject: FEWMustang-List: New to list
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Hello,
Just purchased a FEW Mustang kit (no. 33) from another individual and moved
it to the Los Angeles area. Hoping to hear from other FEW builders that are
willing to share their techniques for building. Any builders on the
Southern California area?
Darren Henley
uh-1driver(at)earthlink.net
EarthLink Revolves Around You.
________________________________________________________________________________
Hello Darren,
Welcome to the squadron, How far along is your project? There is
a group us us die hards that have learned many things in the construction of
this project. Bob Oliver in St Lui Obispo is flying. Up here in Oregon,
there are two of us , 90% finished, 90% to go.
Let us know if we can help
Larry Eidemiller
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| From: | "Cliff Hoyle" <c.hoyle(at)comcast.net> |
Hi Darren,
Good to have you join us and good luck on your new project. If I can be of
help or for that matter, any of us, you will find that we will all do what
we can to encourage and support you. I live in Colorado and only have
firewall forward to finish.
Cliff Hoyle
N2051P
-------Original Message-------
From: Darren Henley
Date: 03/15/06 13:36:23
Subject: FEWMustang-List: New to list
net>
Hello,
Just purchased a FEW Mustang kit (no. 33) from another individual and moved
it to the Los Angeles area. Hoping to hear from other FEW builders that are
willing to share their techniques for building. Any builders on the
Southern California area?
Darren Henley
uh-1driver(at)earthlink.net
EarthLink Revolves Around You.
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| From: | "Darren Henley" <uh-1driver(at)earthlink.net> |
To all those that replied so quickly, thank you. I shall try to answer
your questions at this post.
I bought the kit from Mark Alexander of Dayton, Ohio. I think it is
fitting that I purchased my airplane at the same place where the Wright
Brothers invented the bicycle. It is (I believe) from the second
production group from FEW. It is a single seat D version but I believe
that it has the current production wing. I hope to add a jump seat to it
but it will only fit someone much smaller than myself. The kit was
produced in 1993 and had been dragged around through 2 moves before Mr.
Alexander decided to give up the project.
He had assembled the fuselage with most bulkheads installed. He has closed
the horizontal stabilizer. The rudder and elevators have the ribs and
spars installed but not closed. The wing is completely unbuilt. The
fiberglass work is actually not that bad but the metal work is pretty poor.
I have removed all the metal work, (that I can get access to), nut plates
mostly, and have begun to re-fabricate them. I receive information and
assistance from one of the chapter members who is also a sheet metal worker
at an aircraft manufacturing plant (he is building his own Symphony). I
guess that it doesn't better than that.
I am working on the fuselage at the Compton Airport at the EAA Chapter 96
hangar. There are closer chapters, but this one maintains shop space for
it's members to build their projects. I am building the wing at a friends
workshop which is much closer to where I work and live. I have the wing
table complete and have begun to glue the spar cap to the main spar shear
web. Next week I will pull it out and install the reinforcing laminants.
I have been a little discouraged that the project has been going backwards
as I undo elements of the kit but I believe that I have turned the corner
and begun to move forward again. It is getting pretty interesting. It is
also very intimidating with respect to the size of this project.
A wise man once said, "How do you eat an elephant?"
"One bite at a time!"
> [Original Message]
> From: <PolymerDesign(at)aol.com>
> To:
> Date: 3/15/2006 2:50:43 PM
> Subject: Re: FEWMustang-List: New to list
>
>
> Fill us in. Who did you buy your project from? Ken Gottschall
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| From: | Cory Emberson <bootless(at)earthlink.net> |
| Subject: | Feedback Request (Alternative Engines) Kitplanes Magazine |
Hello all,
I would like to hear from you if you're a builder who has successfully
installed and flown an alternative engine in your plane. I'm compiling a
builder's roundup for Kitplanes magazine, and am looking for an
installation that's flown for a minimum of 300 hours, and is currently
flying. Also, we will not address any rotary engines, since a separate
article will cover those engines.
For the builders that we profile, the magazine will also be able to pay
you $100 for the write-up. I'll be at Sun 'n Fun until late morning on
Friday (April 7), so if you fly in, I'd be happy to take the photos
there. If not, we would also need at least 2-3 good photos, including a
close-up of the engine and an overall shot of the aircraft. Additional
photos would be great, and all photos will be returned. If you have
digital photos, it is very important that they be high-resolution, at
least 300 dpi. I have a list of specific areas to address if you'd like
to participate, but we can handle that off-line. Please feel free to
contact me off-line at: bootless (at) earthlink (dot) net (my despammed
email address).
Thank you so much!
best,
Cory Emberson
Contributing Editor
Kitplanes Magazine
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Matronics Email List Wiki! |
Dear Listers,
I have added a new feature to the Email List Forums at Matronics called a Wiki. What's "Wiki" you ask? A Wiki is a website. You go to it and browse just like you would any other web site. The difference is, you can change it. You can put anything you want on this web site without having to be a web designer or even being the owner. You can write a new page just like writing an email message on the BBS. You don't need to send it off to anyone to install on the site. It is kind of like a Blog (weblog) in which anyone can post. Here is a great page on where the term Wiki came from and what it means in the context of a website: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wiki
So on to the new Matronics Email List Wiki... I've created this site for anyone
from any of the Email Lists to use. I envision that there are a great many
things that can be added to this new Wiki since there are always new and interesting
tidbits of useful information traversing the Lists.
Off the main Matronics Email List Wiki page, you will find a link called "Community
Portal". Here you will find more links to stubs for all the various Lists
found at Matronics (and a few other links). Brian Lloyd and others from the
Yak-List have already begun adding content in a number of areas. Bob Nuckolls
of AeroElectric fame has added a great article on "Ageing Aircraft".
I have discussed the new Matronics Email List Wiki with Tedd McHenry and Dwight Frye of the RV Wiki Site and they have decided to merge their site over onto the new Matronics Wiki server giving everyone a single source for information on RV building and flying! This migration will begin today and you should be able to find all of the content currently found at www.rvwiki.org moved over to the Matronics Wiki within a few days.
To make edits to the Matronics Wiki, you will need to have a login account on the
Matronics Wiki and I have disabled anonymous edits. This protects the Wiki
site from automated spam engines and other nuisances that could compromise the
data at the site.
Signing up for an account is fast and easy and begins by clicking on the "create
an account or log in" link in the upper right hand corner of any page. Note
that you do not have to have a login or be logged in to view any of the content.
The Matronics Email List Wiki is YOUR Wiki! It is only as useful as the content
found within. The concept of the Wiki is that the people the use it and update
it. If you've got an interesting procedure for doing something, MAKE A WIKI
PAGE ON IT! You can even upload pictures. Saw something interesting at a
flyin? MAKE A WIKI PAGE ON IT! Don't be shy, this is YOUR site to share information
with others with similar interests.
Here is a users guide on using the Wiki implemented at Matronics: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Contents This gives a lot of great information on how to get started editing pages.
And finally, here is the URL for the Matronics Email List Wiki:
http://wiki.matronics.com
Brian Lloyd has written an excellent introduction to Wikis on the front page.
I encourage you to read it over, then drill into the "Community Portal" and HAVE
FUN!!
Best regards,
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Matronics BBS Forums |
Hello Listers,
I just wanted to send out a reminder to all of the Listers regarding the new-ish
BBS (Bulletin Board System) Forums that are available at Matronics for the Email
Lists. The BBS Forums give you Web-based access into the same email content
that is generated by the Email Lists. When an email message is posted to
any of the email lists, a copy of the message is also copied to the respective
List forum section on in the BBS Forums. By the same token, when a message is
posted within the BBS Forum interface context, it will also be posted to the
respective email list.
Basically, the BBS Forums give you yet another method of accessing the Matronics
Email List content. Some people prefer email, some prefer web forums; now you
can have it either way or both with the Matronics Lists!
You'll have to register for a login/password on the BBS Forum to _post_ from the
BBS, but you can view message content without registering for an account. To
Register for an account, look for the link at the top of the main BBS Forum
page entitled "Register". Click on it and follow the instructions. Site Administrator
approval will be required (to keep spammers out), but I will try to
get these approved in less than 24 hours.
If you haven't yet taken a look at the Matronics Email List content over on the
BBS Forum, surf on over and take a peek. Its pretty cool. The URL is:
http://forums.matronics.com
I want to stress that the BBS Forums are simply an adjunct to the existing Matronics
Email Lists; another way of viewing and interacting with the Matronics List
content. If you like Email, great. If you like Web Forums, great. If you
like both, great. Its up to you how you view and create your content.
You will also find a URL link at the bottom of this email called Matronics List
Features Navigator. You can click on this link at any time to find URL links
to all of the other great features available on the Matronics site like the Archive
Search Engine, List Browse, List Download, FAQs, Wiki, and lots more.
There is a specific Navigator for each Email List and the link for this specific
List is shown below.
Thanks for all the great list participation and support; it is greatly appreciated!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Two New Email Lists at Matronics and Wiki Reminder! |
Dear Listers,
I have added two new email Lists to the Matronics Line up today. These include
a Continental engine List and a Lightning aircraft List:
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continental-list(at)matronics.com
http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Continental-List
Everything related to the Continental aircraft engine. Sky's the limit on discussions
here.
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lightning-list(at)matronics.com
http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Lightning-List
This is an exciting new design from Arion Aircraft LLC in Shelbyville Tennessee. Pete Krotje has a very nice web site on the aircraft that can be found here: http://www.arionaircraft.com/
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Also, if you haven't checked out the new Matronics Aircraft Wiki, swing by and
have a look. Remember, a Wiki is only as good as the content that the members
put into it. Have a look over some of the sections, and if you've got some interesting
or useful, please add it to the Wiki! Its all about YOU! :-) The
URL for the Matronics Wiki is:
http://wiki.matronics.com
Best regards,
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
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| From: | ChrisL3064(at)aol.com |
Does anyone know if Ed Hullinger is still in business?? Who is running
Legendary Aircraft? Is it still in business? No one has heard or been able to
contact anyone at the old numbers for several months. Are they still at Santa
Paula?
ChrisL
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| From: | "Olen Goodwin" <ogoodwin(at)comcast.net> |
The contact email on the Legendary Aircraft website is good, worked a couple
of weeks ago.
----- Original Message -----
From: <ChrisL3064(at)aol.com>
Sent: Friday, June 02, 2006 11:23 AM
Subject: FEWMustang-List: FEW
>
> Does anyone know if Ed Hullinger is still in business?? Who is running
> Legendary Aircraft? Is it still in business? No one has heard or been able
> to
> contact anyone at the old numbers for several months. Are they still at
> Santa
> Paula?
>
> ChrisL
>
>
>
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| From: | "Tore S. Bristol" <tf51(at)c2i.net> |
Hard to belive , I have not heard from ED for a very long time , even though
he owes me $8000 , or the PSRU he told me was ready nearly 3 years ago !
----- Original Message -----
From: "Olen Goodwin" <ogoodwin(at)comcast.net>
Sent: Friday, June 02, 2006 9:22 PM
Subject: Re: FEWMustang-List: FEW
>
>
> The contact email on the Legendary Aircraft website is good, worked a
> couple
> of weeks ago.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <ChrisL3064(at)aol.com>
> To:
> Sent: Friday, June 02, 2006 11:23 AM
> Subject: FEWMustang-List: FEW
>
>
>>
>> Does anyone know if Ed Hullinger is still in business?? Who is running
>> Legendary Aircraft? Is it still in business? No one has heard or been
>> able
>> to
>> contact anyone at the old numbers for several months. Are they still at
>> Santa
>> Paula?
>>
>> ChrisL
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| From: | ChrisL3064(at)aol.com |
Did you get a reply from Ed or someone else?
ChrisL
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| From: | "Kenneth Melvin" <melvinke(at)coho.net> |
No reply at all from anyone -- just your posting flashed up on the screen as
I sent my message to Ed through the website. Wish I could get through to
him. Have left daily cell-phone messages and emails, but no response.
Ken
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-fewmustang-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-fewmustang-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of
ChrisL3064(at)aol.com
Sent: Friday, June 02, 2006 2:17 PM
Subject: Re: FEWMustang-List: FEW
Did you get a reply from Ed or someone else?
ChrisL
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | List Enclosure Support |
Dear Listers,
Over the years, I have resisted the urge to enable enclosure support on the Matronics
Lists for a number of reasons relating to performance, capacity, capability,
and security. However, its now 2006 and most everyone using email these
days is on an email client that, at some level, supports the viewing and handling
of enclosures. I get a fair amount of email each month from people on the
various Lists asking why their posts of this or that picture didn't go through.
Back quite a while ago by popular request, I enabled enclosure support for a few
Lists such as the RV10-List, Kolb-List, and the Tailwind-List. Contrary to
my fears, there really hasn't been any significant issues on these Lists relating
to the advent of enclosure support and for the most part, members have policed
themselves well with respect to the size of things they have posted.
Having enclosures enabled on some Lists and not others has given me a fair amount
of headaches with respect to filtering messages and content since the formats
are often quite different between a typical MIME encoded message and a generic
plain-text message. The spammers are getting more cleaver all the time and
are constantly trying to thwart my best efforts at keeping them from posting
to the Lists.
So, for these reasons, I've have decided to go ahead and enable limited enclosure
posting on all of the email Lists at Matronics. This will not only increase
the utility of the Lists, but will afford me a better opportunity to filter
out the chaff.
Here are some of the features and limits of enclosures on the Matronics Lists:
1) Enclosures will only be posted to the Real Time version of the
Lists.
2) Enclosures will NOT be included in the Daily Digest version of
the Lists.
3) Enclosures WILL BE forwarded on to the BBS Forum Web site.
4) Enclosures will NOT be appended to the Archives.
5) Enclosures will NOT be available in the List Browse feature.
6) Only the following file types and extensions will be allowed:
jpg, bmp, gif, txt, xls, pdf, and doc
All other enclosures types will be rejected and email returned to
sender. The enclosure types listed above are relatively safe from
a virus standpoint and don't pose a particularly large security risk.
7) !! All incoming enclosures will be scanned for viruses prior to posting
to the List. This is done in real time and will not slow down
the process of posting the message !!
Here are some rules for posting enclosures. Failure to abide by these rules could
result in the removal of a subscriber's email address from the Lists.
1) Pay attention to what you are posting!! Make sure that the files
you are enclosing aren't HUGE (greater that 1MB). Remember that there
are still people checking they're email via dial up modem. If you post
30MB worth of pictures, you are placing an unnecessary burden on these
folks and the rest of us, for that matter.
2) SCALE YOUR PICTURES DOWN!!! I don't want to see huge 3000 x 2000
pictures getting posted that are 3 or 4MB each. This is just
unacceptable. Use a program such as Photoshop to scale the picture
down to something on the order of 800 x 600 and try to keep the
file size to less-than 200KB, preferably much less.
Microsoft has a really awesome utility available for free that allows
you to Right-Click on a picture in Explorer and automatically
scale it down and resave it. This is a great utility - get it, use it!
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/downloads/powertoys/xppowertoys.mspx
Look for the link "Image Resizer"
3) !! This would seem to go without saying, but I'll say it anyway. Do not
post anything that would be considered offensive by your grandmother.
And you know what I'm saying; I don't want to see anything even
questionable. !!
4) REMEMBER THIS: If you post a 1MB enclosure to a List with 1000 members
subscribed, your 1MB enclosure must be resent 1000 times amounting
to 1MB X 1000 = 1 Gigabyte of network traffic!! BE CAREFUL and BE COURTEOUS!
I hope everyone will enjoy the added functionality of enclosures. Please police
yourself and use good judgement when posting messages with enclosures using
the guidelines I've outlined above.
Best regards,
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Matronics Email List Web Server Upgrade Tonight... |
Dear Listers,
This evening I will be upgrading the Matronics Web Server hardware to a new Quad-processor
2.8Ghz Xeon system (yes, 4-physical CPUs!) with an Ultra 320 SCSI
Raid 5 disk system and 5GB of DDR2 RAM.
As with the older system, the new system will be running the latest version of
Redhat Linux. Most of the software configuration work is already done for the
migration, but I still have to sync all of the archive and forum data from the
old system to the new system. I am anticipating about 2 to 3 hours of downtime
for me to fully make the transition, although it could be considerable less
if everything goes according to plan.
The Matronics Webserver will be *UNavailable* from the Internet during the work,
and you will receive a time-out if you try to connect during the upgrade.
Email List Distribution will be *available* during the upgrade of the Web Server,
and List message distribution will function as normal.
This represents a significant performance upgrade for the Matronics Web Server
and you should notice nicely improved searching and surfing performance following
the upgrade!
Best regards,
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | New Incoming Message Size Limit Implemented... |
Dear Listers,
Due to a number of requests to limit the size of incoming posts to the Lists because
of the recently added enclosure feature, I have add a new filter that will
limit the total size of any given message posted to the List. I have initially
set the limit to 2MB
and we'll see how everyone likes that.
If a member attempts to post a message that is greater than the set limit, they
will receive an email back indicating that their message wasn't posted to the
List and why. Also included in the message will be the current size limit and
how large their message
was.
Some might say that 2MB is still too large, but its a place to start...
Best regards,
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
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| From: | "Tore S. Bristol" <tf51(at)c2i.net> |
Ed
early July this year you sent me a mail saying you would ship my PSRU
within a month , or just after Oshkosh at the latest .
Since then you have asked for my address ( for the umphteen time )
I have since asked for a date , so I could be in FL when it arrived.
Since then nothing but silence , and you do not reply to mails sent to
Legendary Aircraft.
I can only guess this is just another delaying tactic , just like it has
been in the past.
Actually it is now 3 years since you said the PSRU was finished , asked
me to send the money .
How on earth do you expect to have ANY credability , and be able to sell
anything from Legendary Aircraft when you operate like this ?
That for me is a mystery.
TORE
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| From: | "Tore S. Bristol" <tf51(at)c2i.net> |
----- Original Message -----
From: Tore S. Bristol
Sent: Friday, September 22, 2006 3:06 PM
Subject: PSRU
Ed
early July this year you sent me a mail saying you would ship my PSRU
within a month , or just after Oshkosh at the latest .
Since then you have asked for my address ( for the umphteen time )
I have since asked for a date , so I could be in FL when it arrived.
Since then nothing but silence , and you do not reply to mails sent to
Legendary Aircraft.
I can only guess this is just another delaying tactic , just like it has
been in the past.
Actually it is now 3 years since you said the PSRU was finished , asked
me to send the money .
How on earth do you expect to have ANY credability , and be able to sell
anything from Legendary Aircraft when you operate like this ?
That for me is a mystery.
TORE
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Comcast Was Blocking Matronics Email Lists... |
Dear Listers (Specifically Comcast Listers),
For about the last two days, Comcast was blocking incoming email from the Matronics
Email Lists because their spam filters thought the mail was spam. I was
that people on Comcast are receiving List messages again.
If you are a Comcast user, you might want to email them and express your displeasure
with their Spam blocking policy, particularly as it relates to "matronics.com".
Sorry for the hassle...
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Admin
Matt G Dralle | Matronics | PO Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551
925-606-1001 V | 925-606-6281 F | dralle(at)matronics.com Email
http://www.matronics.com/ WWW | Featuring Products For Aircraft
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Matronics Email List Fund Raiser - November! |
Dear Listers,
Each November I hold a PBS-like fund raiser to support the continued operation
and upgrade of the List services at Matronics. It's through these sole Contributions
of List members that these Matronics Lists are possible.
You have probably noticed that there are no banner ads or pop-up windows on any of the Matronics Lists or related web sites such as the Forums site ( http://forums.matronics.com ), Wiki site ( http://wiki.matronics.com ), or other related pages such as the List Search Engine ( http://www.matornics.com/search ), List Browse ( http://www.matornics.com/listbrowse ), etc. This is because I believe in a List experience that is completely about the sport we all enjoy - namely Airplanes and not about annoying advertisments.
During the month of November I will be sending out List messages every few days
reminding everyone that the Fund Raiser is underway. Each message will generally
highlight a particular feature or benefit of the Matronics Lists or detail
a new feature or service that was added this year. I ask for your patience
and understanding during the Fund Raiser and throughout these regular messages.
The Fund Raiser is only financial support mechanism I have to pay all of the
bills associated with running these lists.
Once again, this year I've got a terrific line up of free gifts to go along with
the various Contribution levels. Most all of these gifts have been provided
by some of the vary members and vendors that you'll find on Matronics Lists and
have been either donated or provided at substantially discounted rates.
This year, these generous people include Bob Nuckolls of the AeroElectric Connection (http://www.aeroelectric.com/), Paul Besing of Aeroware Enterprises aka Kitlog Pro (http://www.kitlog.com/), Andy Gold of the Builder's Bookstore (http://www.buildersbooks.com/), and Jon Croke of HomebuiltHELP (http://www.homebuilthelp.com/).
These are extremely generous guys and I encourage you to visit their respective
web sites. Each one offers a unique and very useful aviation-related product
line. I would like publicly to thank Bob, Paul, Andy, and Jon for their generous
support of the Lists again this year!!
You can make your List Contribution using any one of three secure methods this
year including using a credit card, PayPal, or by personal check. All three methods
afford you the opportunity to select one of this year's free gifts with
a qualifying Contribution amount!!
To make your Contribution, please visit the secure site below:
https://www.matronics.com/contribution
I would like to thank everyone in advance for their generous financial AND moral
support over the years. I know it sounds a little cliche, but you guys really
do feel like family.
Thank you for your support!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Have You Tried The New Matronics List Forum? |
Hello Listers,
One of the major new additions to the Matronics Email Lists this year was the addition
of a new and full function Forum Web Site at:
http://forums.matronics.com
The best part of these new Forums is that they are tied directly to the Classic
email distribution Lists! That also means that posts go in both directions.
If you post a message on the Forum web site, it will be cross posted to the respective
Email List. And, if you post a message to a particular Email List,
it will be cross posted to the same respective forum on the Forum site!
So, no matter what your content viewing pleasure is - either direct email distribution
or web-based GUI interface, you can have it at the Matronics Email Lists!
Won't you make a Contribution to support these Lists? It is your SOLE Contributions
that make their continued operation and upgrade possible!
The Contribution site is Fast, Easy, and Secure. Please surf over and make your
Contribution today:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Thank you!!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Wow, Cool! New List Feature... [Please Read] |
Dear Listers,
By popular suggestion, I've written a substantial new code module for the Matronics
Email Lists system. Here's how it works...
During each November, I send out quite a few PBS-like "Please make a Contribution
to support your List" emails. Wouldn't it be cool if, once a member made a
Contribution, they didn't have to receive my support pleas anymore for the rest
of that year?
Well, that's exactly what I've written! Following this posting, anyone that makes
a List Contribution in 2006 will no longer receive my Contribution Pleas for
the rest of the year!
The best part is this not only applies to the Realtime distribution, but also the
Digest distribution! For those that have made a Contribution, the Daily Digest
email-version will be invisibly stripped of my requests as well! (Note that
my requests will still be present in the online versions of the Digests, List
Browse, and on the Forum site.)
For those submitting their Contribution by personal Check, please be sure to include
your email address along with your Check as this is what is used to determine
eligibility.
So, in a nutshell, here's how it works:
Make a Contribution = No more "Please Make a Contribution" messages!
How sweet is that? If that's not a great reason to jump on the Matronics Email
List Contribution site and make your donation today, I don't know what is!
Don't forget that there are some totally awesome free gifts to be had along with
your List Contribution this year!! Don't wait a minute longer to support your
Lists!
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Thank you for your Support!!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | If You Got This Email, You Haven't Made A Contribution |
Yet! :-)
If you received this particular Matronics List Email message, its because you haven't
yet made a Contribution to support your Lists! This is the first PBS-like
funds drive message under the new distribution system. The new system selectively
sends out the Contribution messages ONLY to those that forgot to whip
out the 'ol credit card this year to support the continued operation and upgrade
of the Matronics Email Lists! Don't you wish PBS worked that way? :-)
You heard that right. Once you make your Contribution, these support requests
messages during November will suddenly stop coming to your personal email inbox!
Pardon me if I seem kind of excited about the new feature. I've wanted to
implement something like this for a number of years now, but it was always such
a daunting task to modify the back-end List processing code, that I just kept
putting it off. Finally this year, I just decided to bite the bullet and put
the code-pounding time it to make it work. A few days later, bam! A working
system!
Anyway, I'll stop gushing now. I really do appreciate each and every one of your
individual Contributions to support the Lists. It is your support that enables
me to upgrade the hardware and software that are required to run a List Site
like this. It also goes to pay for the Commercial-Grade Internet connection
and to pay the rather huge electric bill to keep the computer gear running
and the air conditioner powered up.
Your personal Contribution matters because when combined with other Listers such
as yourself, it pays the bills to keep this site up and running. I accept exactly
ZERO advertising dollars for the Matronics Lists sites. I can't stand
the pop-up ads and all other commercialism that is so prevalent on the Internet
these days and I particularly don't want to have it on my Email List site.
I'm pretty sure you don't either.
If you appreciate the ad-free, grass-roots, down-home feel of the Matronics Email
Lists, please make a Contribution today to keep it that way!!
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Thank you!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Clarification On New Contribution Module Operation... |
Dear Listers,
A number of Listers emailed and indicated that, even though they had made a Contribution
this year, they still received the Contribution message yesterday.
I looked into it and I found a slight anomaly (ok, bug) in the new code specifically
as it related to Listers that had made their Contribution through PayPal
AND have a DIFFERENT email address for their PayPal account and for their Matronics
List subscription.
If your PayPal account email address is DIFFERENT than the email address you are
subscribed to the Matronics List(s) as, then my new code module couldn't tell
that you had made a Contribution, since it was using the PayPal email address
instead of the List email.
I've fixed this issue for any new PayPal Contributions, but I don't have any easy
way of resolving this for any of the previous Contribtuions. Again, this is
ONLY an issue if your PayPal and Matronics List email addresses ARE NOT the
same. Otherwise, everything works great.
If you made a PayPal Contribution before 11/09/06 AND your email addresses don't
match, please drop me an email at " info(at)matronics.com " (do not reply to this
message!) and give me your Name, and both Email Addresses and I will manually
update the records so that things will work as advertised.
Sorry for the hassle! New code; new bugs... :-)
To make a Contribution, please see: http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Thank you!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administration
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
Dear Listers,
I added a new Wiki web site to the Matronics Email List features earlier this year. What's a Wiki, you ask? Well, here's the Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wiki) definition:
A wiki (IPA: [ w .ki ] or [ wi .ki ] ) is a type of Web site
that allows the visitors themselves to easily add, remove, and otherwise edit
and change some available content, sometimes without the need for registration.
This ease of interaction and operation makes a wiki an effective tool for
collaborative authoring. The term wiki also can refer to the collaborative software
itself (wiki engine) that facilitates the operation of such a Web site,
or to certain specific wiki sites, including the computer science site (an original
wiki), WikiWikiWeb, and on-line encyclopedias such as Wikipedia.
Under the Matronics Email List Moniker, there is now a very nice List-specific
Wiki available! It a place for Listers to put articles about any aviation topic
that suits them. The purpose is to provide what the mailing lists do not:
structure and persistence. The mailing lists are a fantastic resource to ask
a question and get good (and bad and funny and annoying) answers. But once the
question is asked and answered it is not in front of the List anymore. If a
new person subscribes the next day, he/she does not see that information unless
he/she goes to the trouble to search the archives, a hit or miss proposition.
The result is that the same thread of conversation gets created and/or revisited.
There are several things that happen as a result:
1. The person gets his or her question answered;
2. The information gets better as more people think about and answer the question;
3. The people who have seen the same question asked and answered get annoyed
at seeing the same things over and over and over and ...
So this is where the Wiki comes in. You know what questions you wanted answered.
You may have asked or answered the question. You know the information is useful.
So you put the information here, in the Matronics Email List Wiki!
It doesn't matter that this information is 100% complete or correct. Just writing
something creates a placeholder and makes useful information available immediately.
It has the same immediacy as the mailing list but it has persistence
and structure.
But what if the information is incomplete or incorrect? No problem! Anyone else
coming along can edit the article! If I write something and you discover something
I have left out or stated incorrectly, you can fix it right then!
So let's begin and make this the place for information about building, flying,
maintaining, and understanding our airplanes.
But what about whether something is "appropriate" or not? Don't worry. Write
it down. Let the reader determine whether or not it is appropriate. If it is,
he/she will read it. If it isn't, he/she won't. It's as simple as that.
And when you do write that article you won't have to worry about whether some editor
is going to decide whether or not to print it in a newsletter or whether
the webmaster will have time to put it up on the web page.
The last question I hear brewing out there is: if anyone can post anything, won't
this just become a mass of garbage? Surprisingly, the answer is a resounding
no. If you want proof, go visit the Wikipedia, a free-to-everyone encyclopedia
written by whoever wants to write articles. The articles there are as good
as anything I have read anywhere and anyone can add anything anytime they want
to.
So don't hesitate. Write it down. Put it here. It will never hurt anyone. The
more information we get here, the more useful it will become to other people
and the more information they will put here for YOU to use.
Here's the URL to start (there are lots more bured under this starting place):
http://www.matronics.com/wiki/index.php/Matronics:Community_Portal
But please don't forget that this Wiki and all of the other Matronics Email List
features are supported solely by YOUR Contributions!! November is List Fund
Raiser month and there are lots of Free Gifts to be had with your qualifying
Contribution. Please make a Contribution to support the continued operation and
upgrade of these great services!!! Thank you!
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | WLAS [Please Read] |
Dear Listers,
I sat down at the 'ol computer tonight to have a look at a few of the nice comments
List Members have been including along with their Contributions this year.
I was amazed at how many I found and even more amazed at some of the very nice
things Listers have been saying about the Lists and how valuable the they
are to them.
I've included quite a few of these nice comments below. Please read over some
of this great Lister feedback. No doubt you will find that you agree with at
least one or two of those comments - maybe all of them! If you find that do,
won't you please make a Contribution to support these Lists today!! Its fast
and easy with the Matronics List Contribution Web Site:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Don't forget that I've now fully implemented the new *List Fund Raiser Squelch*
feature that will automatically intercept any future iterations of my "Please
Contribute" messages -- that is, *once you've made YOUR Contribution*! How cool
is that? (Make sure the email address you enter along with your Contribution
matches exactly your subscribed List email address. An exact match is how
it works.)
Thank you for your generous Contributions this year and for all the wonderful comments!!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
================= What Listers Are Saying (WLAS) ================
Absolutely the best deal on the Internet!!
-Owen B
I love The Matronics...
-Robeto B
My wife has her soaps & I've got my lists!
-Hal B
These lists are, indeed, the lifeline of our hobby.
-Bob R
The best source of information for my a/c.
-Tony C
The Zenith list is the first thing I read in the morning.
-Herbert H
You do more good than you can imagine. I wish I'd known
about you while I was building my Kitfox, but you are
still an after-the-fact resource.
-Ben B
..an excellent site.
-Ashley M
The "List" has been the ultimate help for my Zenith
CH 701 project!!
-Brian U
I appreciate the list being here for me.
-Geoff H
..a great service.
-William C
The List continues to be an interesting and useful facility.
-David M
Your list is a constant goad to keep me working on my project.
-Thomas S
..a great service.
-Robert W
The Pietenpol list is a great resource.
-Benjamin W
The Yak-list is Awesome!
-James S
..great service.
-Robert S
The features you have implemented recently have you poised
to knock out yahoo groups...
-Danny D
I like how your forum looks/works and the list service...
-Ken E
..great service.
-David P
Very useful web site.
-Wayne E
..a very valuable service.
-Chris D
Great sites...
-Randall R
I used to look at [that other] site also but it's gotten so
cluttered with advertising that I've stopped looking at it.
-Wayne E
Without your services, the build would be a grope in the dark...
-Fergus K
The information and help I've received greatly outweighs the
donation...
-Lee P
..great service!
-Christopher D
I really don't think I could be building my plane without the
wisdom I find on this list.
-William G
It really makes building a pleasure.
-James P
..great service.
-Doug W
I'm getting near the end of my build (Europa tri XS) don't
think I could have done it with out the help of the forum.
-Stanislaus S
Marvelous service. Couldn't have done it without you.
-Jim G
Love the list, this is a wonderful way to help others...
-Michael S
..good service.
-Derek L
The list is responsible for helping me complete this project
and educating me in the process.
-Jeff D
Definitely worth the donation.
-Ron L
..great service to the aviation community.
-Tony P
I have been flying my plane for 5 years (RV-6) but I still
get valuable information from this service.
-Don N
A very helpful site.
-Roland S
It's a great community to be part of.
-David L
Great sites.
-John C
A great place to find and share not only information but to
meet people across the country and make lasting relationships.
-Uncle Craig
Great facility.
-Peter H
Its a great source of information!
-Michael W
Great improvements to the List...
-Edward A
Great service!!!
-Rich D
..great resource!
-William C
..excellent lists!
-Michael S
Couldn't have built my RV4 without the list.
-Warren M
..a great service...
-James N
I would not have missed [the list] for anything during the
building of my Europa.
-Svein J
..another great year.
-Robert D
..this [is an] essential builder's resource.
-David A
..excellent service.
-Gregory B
I've learned a huge amount of "stuff" over the past year
and look forward to it every day!
-Smith M
..a great communication tool...
-Jon M
Finished building 5 years ago, but still are lurking on
your great list!
-Lothar K
..a valuable service. At 11:00 pm Matronics is the goto
place for my RV questions.
-Mike D
================= What Listers Are Saying (WLAS) ================
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
Each year at the end of the List Fund Raiser, I post a message acknowledging everyone
that so generously made a Contribution to support the Lists. Its sort
of my way of publicly thanking everyone that took a minute to show their
appreciation for the Lists.
Won't you take a moment and assure that your name is on that List of Contributors
(LOC)? As a number of members have pointed out over the years, the List seems
at least - if not a whole lot more - valuable as a
building/flying/recreating/entertainment tool as your typical magazine subscription!
Please take minute and assure that your name is on this year's LOC! Show others
that you appreciate the Lists. Making a Contribution to support the Lists is
fast and easy using your Credit card or Paypal on the Secure Web Site:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
or by popping a personal check in the mail to:
Matt Dralle / Matronics
PO Box 347
Livermore CA 94551-0347
I would like to thank everyone that has so generously made a Contribution thus
far in this year's List Fund Raiser! Remember that its YOUR support that keeps
these Lists going and improving! Don't forget to include a little comment
about how the Lists have helped you!
Best regards,
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
If you look forward to checking your List email everyday (and a lot of you have
written to say that you do!), then you're probably getting at least 0 or 0 worth
of Entertainment from the Lists each year. You'd pay twice that for a subscription
to some lame magazine or even a dinner out. Isn't the List worth at
least that much to you? Wouldn't it be great if you could pay that same amount
and get a well-managed media source free of advertising, SPAM, and viruses?
Come to think of it, you do...
Won't you please take a minute to make your Contribution today and support YOUR
Lists?
Contribution Page:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Again, I want to say THANK YOU to everyone that has made a Contribution thus far
during this year's List Fund Raiser!! These Lists are made possible exclusively
through YOUR generosity!!
Thank you for your support!
Matt Dralle
Email List Admin.
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Why? [Please Read] |
Dear Listers,
Each year I like to explain why I have a Fund Raiser and also take the opportunity
to express why I think the List Services here provide a superior experience
over the commercial equivalents.
I use the List Fund Raiser each year to offset the costs involved with running
a high performance email list site such as this one. With the annual support
from the List members through the PBS-like Fund Raiser, I have found I can run
the entire site without having to inflect any of the members with those annoying
banner ads flashing up all the time trying to sell little-blue-pills or other
garbage nobody wants or needs. From the comments I've received over the years
regarding the Lists, the great majority of the members really appreciate
the non-commercialism of my List systems and don't mind my 'go-team-go' banter
once a year during November to encourage members to support the Lists.
I believe that the Lists services that I provide here offer many benefits over
the commercial equivalents in a number of ways. The first feature I believe to
be significant is that you cannot receive a computer v*rus from any of these
Lists directly. Each incoming message is filtered and dangerous attachments
stripped off prior to posting. I also provide a Photo and File Share feature
that allows members to share files and bitmaps with other members and everyone
can be assured that these files will be prescanned for any sort of v*rus before
they are posted. Safe and simple.
Another very important feature of this system in my opinion is the extensive List
Archives that are available for download, browsing, and searching. The Archives
go all the way back to the very beginning of each List and with the very
fast Search Engine, the huge size of some of the Archives is a non-issue in quickly
finding the data you're looking for.
And added just this year is the new Email List Forum that allows members who prefer
the Web BBS-style of List interaction. The beauty of the new List Forums
is that they contain the exact same content that is distributed via email. Messages
posted via email are cross-posted to the respective Forum and vice versa.
The Forums also allow for another convenient method of sharing pictures and
other files. Additionally added this year is the new List Wiki that allows
members to build their own "Online List Encyclopedia" of sorts, documenting various
aspects of their project for all to share.
I've been running email Lists and services under the matronics.com domain since
about 1989 starting with RV-List and 30 guys I knew and who where also building
RVs. It has grown into nearly 70 different aviation-related Email Lists and
an associated web site that receives over 23,000,000 hits each year!! Additionally,
the List Email system forwarded well over 87,000 postings last year,
accounting for an unbelievable 39,000,000 (yes, that's 39 MILLION) email messages
delivered to Matronics List subscribers! I think there's a lot of value in
supporting a service that has gone the long haul and is still providing and
improving a high quality service all _without any advertising budget_!
I have to admit running these Lists is a labor of love and I hope it shows in the
quality of the experience that you receive when you get a List Email Message,
Search the Archives, use the List Browser, or surf the Forums and Wiki sites.
The Lists will be here for a long time to come. If you just want to lurk
a while for free, that's great and I encourage you to do so. If you use, appreciate,
and receive value from these Lists, then please support them during the
Annual List Fund Raiser!
List Contribution Web Site:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Thank you,
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Please Make a Contribution to Support Your Lists... |
Dear Listers,
Just a reminder that November is the Annual List Fund Raiser. Please make a Contribution
today to support the continued operation and upgrade of these great
List services!! Pick up a really nice free gift with your qualifying Contribution
too!
The Contribution Site is fast and easy:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Thank you!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | More Great List Comments - Please Make A Contribution! |
Dear Listers,
There's a little less than one week left for this year's List Fund Raiser. I thought
it would a great time to share a few more of the great comments I've been
receiving from Contributors regarding what the Lists mean to them. There are
some particularly poignant ones in this batch and I encourage you to have a
look at some of them.
Don't forget that once you make your Contribution, the Contribution Squelch kicks
in and you won't receive any future messages from me regarding the Fund Raiser
this year! This holds true for the Realtime and Digest distributions and
now also the HTML and TXT links included with the Digest! (Note that for technical
reasons, if someone replies to one of my contribution messages, the Squelch
will _not_ be activated, and you will still receive it. Contribution messages
will also still be found on the Forums site and the List Browse).
Please make your Contribution today to support these List services! Pick up a
great Gift too!
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Thank you!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
============================= WLAS #2 ============================
Tackling my project without the List would be like
building on a deserted island. The List has made me
part of a learning (and laughing) community. -Larry W
Thank you for providing such a fantastic resource for us
Kolbers. I'm very happy to contribute towards keeping such a
wonderful resource available. -Geoff T
..you do a great service for the flying community by
providing this service. -John L
..solidly administered. -James C
A great source of information. -Ralph S
The Lists have likely saved a numbers of lives... -James F
..exceptional user service. -Larry W
Better than a magazine! -Aaron G
Thanks to your List I will be able to finish and fly
my project. Without the help of the great people on
your List I doubt it would have happened. -Ed G
I learn something on a too regular basis thanks to
these lists! -Ralph C
..valuable service. -John F
..a well administered service. -Stewart C
Great forum! -Ronald C
A great service! -Andy H
Been reading the lists since my first RV in 1999. Good
work and as necessary to me as a rivet. -Albert G
The lists are a great help. -Gary S
This resource has been critical to my building success
so far. -Timothy F
Great system and support! -Richard P
Very helpful in the building my CH 701. -Ralph S
Another year of entertainment and pleasure! -Larry B
A great resource for all of us. -Larry W
Another year of great service! Once again, the
information is worth more than I can ever contribute.
Thank you also for the "community" that the List fosters.
I cannot tell you the number of times that seeing an
friend's name come up has caused so many awesome memories
to come flooding back - along with the eager desire to
gather with these great guys again. I love hearing the
beginner's enthusiasm, the builder's progress, and the
flyer's success... -Robert B
Our list has great info and I love reading the
"Flame Posts! " -Stephen M
Great service! -James B
Excellent source of information. -David P
You provide a very valuable service to the aviation
community. -David H
The RV related lists have been a tremendous help in the
construction of my RV-7... -Norman R
Awesome list!! -John E
Great bunch of guys and very knowledgeable! -Herbert G
Thank you for making it so easy to stay in touch
with my fellow RV-10 builders. -David J
I love the list and have been a reader for a long
time. -James V
Continues to be a great service! -George A
Awesome List server. -Deke M
Many of us would never finish our airplanes without
[the List]. With it, I'm getting close! -Ronald C
An excellent source of both information and
inspiration! -William R
Forums and format are easy to use. -Jack B
Great help with my kit building. -Ralph H
Super service. -Richard N
Still loving it. -Jared S
You have a fantastic web! -Harvey R
..a great service. -James M
Glad you are there... -David A
I get some great information on your list. -John P
Fantastic service. Couldn't have made it as far
as I have without it. -Stephen T
A great learning experience with my RV-6A. -Ron B
Great resources! -Jason H
Well done. Very valuable. -Jeffrey D
Great resource for the experimental aircraft
community. -Chris H
This List has been one of the most helpful tools in
building my RV-10, since I build alone, and do not
have any help readily available. Without the List,
I could not have embarked on building my RV-10. -Jim H
You run a great list there. -James H
Really like the Kolb List. -Don W
============================= WLAS #2 ============================
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | List of Contributors Coming Soon - Make Sure You're Listed! |
Dear Listers,
The List of Contributors (LOC) is just around the corner! On December 1st I post
a list of everyone that so generously made a Contribution to support the Lists.
Its my way of publicly thanking everyone that took a minute to show their
appreciation for the Lists.
As a number of people have pointed out in their Contribution comments, the List
seems at least as valuable of a building/flying/recreating tool as a typical
your magazine subscription! And how interactive is a magazine, after all? :-)
Won't you take minute and assure that your name is on the upcoming LOC? Tell others
that you appreciate the Lists. Making a Contribution to support the Lists
is fast and easy using your Visa, MasterCard, or Paypal account:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Or, by droping a personal check in the mail to:
Matronics / Matt Dralle
PO Box 347
Livermore CA 94551-0347
USA
(Please include your email address on the check!)
I would like to thank everyone that has so generously made a Contribution thus
far during this year's List Fund Raiser! Remember that its YOUR support that
keeps these Lists running and improving! Don't forget to include a little comment
about how the Lists have helped you!
Thank you!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Who is "Matt Dralle" & What Are "The Lists"? [Please |
Read]
Dear Listers,
Who is Matt Dralle and what exactly are these Lists? Well, I've been working in
the information technology industry for over 20 years primarily in computer
networking design and implementation. I have also done extensive work in web
development and CGI design during this period.
I started the Matronics Email Lists back in 1990 with about 30 fellow RV builders
from around the world. Since that time, I have added 63 other kinds of aircraft
related Lists to the line up and numerous other List related services such
as the Forums, Wiki, Archives and Search Engine just to name a few.
For flexibility and reliability, I have chosen to run all of my own servers here
locally. Other List-related systems include a 1 Gigabit, fully switched network
infrastructure, a commercial-grade Netscreen firewall, a Barracuda spam filter,
a local T1 Internet router, and a commercial-grade business T1 Internet
connection with full static addressing.
The computer servers found here include a brand new, quad-processor Xeon Linux
server for List web services, a dual-processor Xeon Linux system dedicated to
the email processing List functions, and another P4 Linux system serving as a
remote storage disk farm for the archives, databases, and for an on-line hard
drive-based backup system with 3.2 Terra Bytes of storage, soon to be upgraded
to over 6 Terra Bytes! This entire system is protected by three large, commercial-grade
uninterrupted power supply (UPS) systems that assure the Lists are
available even during a local power outage! Speaking of power, imagine how much
electricity it takes to run all of these systems. One month this Summer,
I had a staggering $1368 bill for electricity alone!
I recently upgraded all of the computer racking infrastructure including new power
feeds and dedicated air conditioning for the room that serves as the Computer
Center for the Matronics Email Lists. This year I added another rack to house
the new MONSTER quad-processor web system that didn't quite fit into the
first rack! Here's a composite photo of the List Computer Center before the addition
of the second rack:
http://www.matronics.com/MattDralle-ListComputerCenter.jpg
As you can see, I take running these Lists very seriously and I am dedicated to
providing an always-on, 24x7x365 experience for each and every Lister.
But building and running this system isn't cheap. As I've stated before, I don't
support any of these systems with commercial advertising on the Lists. It
is supported 100% through List member Contributions! That means you... and you...
and YOU!
To that end, I hold a List Fund Raiser each November and ask that members make
a small Contribution to support the continued operation and upgrade of this ever-expanding
system. Its solely YOUR Contributions that keeps it running!
Please make a Contribution today to support these Lists!
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Or, by dropping a personal check in the mail to:
Matronics / Matt Dralle
PO Box 347
Livermore CA 94551-0347
USA
(Please include your email address on the check!)
Thank you!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Last "Official" Day Of The List Fund Raiser! |
Dear Listers,
Well, its November 30th and that means three things...
1) Today I am now officially 43 years old... (arg...)
2) It marks that last "official" day of the List Fund Raiser!
3) Its the last day I will be bugging everyone for a whole year! :-)
If you use the Lists and enjoy the content and the no-advertising, no-spam, and
no-censorship way in which they're run, please make a Contribution today to support
their continued operation and upkeep. Your $20 or $30 goes a long way
to further the List operation and keep the bills paid.
I will be posting the List of Contributors next week, so make sure your name is
on it! :-)
Thank you to everyone that has made a Contribution so far this year! It is greatly
appreciated.
List Contributions: http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Best regards,
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Matronics Fund Raiser - 2006 List of Contributors |
Dear Listers,
I would like to thank everyone that made a Contribution in support of the Lists
this year! It was really nice to hear all great comments people had regarding
the Lists! As I have said many times before, running these Lists is a labor
of love. Your generosity during the List Fund Raiser only underscores the great
sentiments people have made regarding the Lists.
If you haven't yet made a Contribution in support of this year's Fund Raiser please
feel free to do so. The nice List gifts will be available on the site for
just a little while longer, so hurry and make your Contribution and get your
great gift. Once again, the URL for the Contribution web site is:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
I would like to thank Andy Gold of the Builder's Bookstore ( http://www.buildersbooks.com ), Paul Besing of Aeroware Enterprises ( http://www.kitlog.com ), Jon Croke of Homebuilt HELP ( http://www.homebuilthelp.com ) and Bob Nuckolls of AeroElectric ( http://www.aeroelectric.com ) for their extremely generous support during this year's Fund Raiser through the contribution of merchandise. These are great guys that support the aviation industry and I encourage each and every Lister to have a look at their products. Thank you Andy, Paul, Jon and Bob!! Your support is very much appreciated!
And finally, below you will find a web link to the 2006 List of Contributors current
as of 12/7/06! Have a look at this list of names as these are the people
that make all of these List services possible! I can't thank each of you enough
for your support and great feedback during this year's Fund Raiser!
THANK YOU!
http://www.matronics.com/loc/2006.html
I will be shipping out all of the gifts in the next few weeks and hope to have
everything out by the end of the month. In most cases, gifts will be shipped
via US Postal Service. Kitlog Pro serial numbers should go out via email this
weekend.
Once again, thank you for making this year's List Fund Raiser successful!
Best regards,
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
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| From: | "rob zeelenberg" <robzeel(at)ision.nl> |
| Subject: | new to this list |
Hi, and a Happy New Year to all fellow builder's of the fewMustang,
My name is Rob Zeelenberg,living in Holland (Europe)and for a year now
trying to finish an already half build FEW- mustang,
in finishing and flying a Europa-aircraft since 1999 I am not
considering myself as a beginner in the homebuilt aircraft- branche.
Anyone of you heard anything from mr.Ed Hullinger?
The Kit I'm trying to work on is missing some parts,namely 30 %,which
mr. Hullinger promised me to send but since I've paid half of the
sum,never heard of him since,no response at all ?
Please let me know if any of you encountered the same problems ?
Greetings RZ.
-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:owner-fewmustang-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of
FEWMustang-List Digest Server
Sent: maandag 1 januari 2007 8:57
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| From: | "Tore S. Bristol" <tf51(at)c2i.net> |
| Subject: | Re: new to this list |
Hi Rob.
Welcome to the club !
I am a Norwegian builder liwing part of the year in FL .
I was told 3 1/2 years ago by Ed Hullinger that my PSRU was ready , and
would I please pay for it .
So I did , and since then I have only gotten excuses and lies , but no PSRU
.
And I know there are others in the same situation .
My advise is not to part with ANY money until you have the stuff in your
hand .
The only way to do business with Ed Hullinger seems to be to go and pick
things up and then pay when you you have it in your posession .
He must be the least thrustworthy person I have ever met .
I can not understand how he can do business this way .
What parts are you missing , and are you the original buyer ?
Keep in touch .
Regards
Tore S Bristol
----- Original Message -----
From: "rob zeelenberg" <robzeel(at)ision.nl>
Sent: Monday, January 01, 2007 1:18 PM
Subject: FEWMustang-List: new to this list
>
>
> Hi, and a Happy New Year to all fellow builder's of the fewMustang,
>
> My name is Rob Zeelenberg,living in Holland (Europe)and for a year now
> trying to finish an already half build FEW- mustang,
>
> in finishing and flying a Europa-aircraft since 1999 I am not
> considering myself as a beginner in the homebuilt aircraft- branche.
>
> Anyone of you heard anything from mr.Ed Hullinger?
>
> The Kit I'm trying to work on is missing some parts,namely 30 %,which
> mr. Hullinger promised me to send but since I've paid half of the
> sum,never heard of him since,no response at all ?
> Please let me know if any of you encountered the same problems ?
> Greetings RZ.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> FEWMustang-List Digest Server
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| From: | "Tore S. Bristol" <tf51(at)c2i.net> |
----- Original Message -----
From: Tore S. Bristol
Sent: Friday, February 16, 2007 7:25 PM
Subject: Re: PSRU
Ed ,
since I received this promise of my PSRU being finished in 30 days ( I
think it is the 22nd time in the 3 1/2 years since I paid for it ) I
have mailed you twice to get confirmation that I can pick it up early
March , but again you do not reply.
Can only assume the mail has not reached you , so I try through the
list then.
So, can you confirm that I can pick it up early March then ?
Hate to make another trip all the way to CA with no result as you had me
do once already .
Your tardiness cannot be from lack of income , I notice you are charging
another builder $ 1.50 each for MS 20470 AN 4-7 rivets !
Quite a markup , Aircraft Spruce sell them for just over 0.3 cents a
piece !
Tore S Bristol
----- Original Message -----
From: Ed Hullinger
To: Tore S. Bristol
Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 3:54 PM
Subject: Re: PSRU
Tore,
I'm finishing up a group right now with the changes that we had to
make. 30 days and yours will be ready.
Ed
----- Original Message -----
From: Tore S. Bristol
To: ed(at)legendaryaircraft.com
Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 5:54 AM
Subject: Fw: PSRU
Ed ,
Another 6 months have passed , 3 1/2 years altogether since you said
my PSRU was ready , and you tricked me into paying .
All I have had since then is empty promises .
Tore
----- Original Message -----
From: Tore S. Bristol
To: ed(at)legendaryaircraft.com
Cc: fewmustang-list(at)matronics.com
Sent: Friday, September 22, 2006 11:39 PM
Subject: Fw: PSRU
----- Original Message -----
From: Tore S. Bristol
To: fewmustang-list(at)matronics.com
Sent: Friday, September 22, 2006 3:06 PM
Subject: PSRU
Ed
early July this year you sent me a mail saying you would ship my
PSRU within a month , or just after Oshkosh at the latest .
Since then you have asked for my address ( for the umphteen time )
I have since asked for a date , so I could be in FL when it arrived.
Since then nothing but silence , and you do not reply to mails sent
to Legendary Aircraft.
I can only guess this is just another delaying tactic , just like it
has been in the past.
Actually it is now 3 years since you said the PSRU was finished ,
asked me to send the money .
How on earth do you expect to have ANY credability , and be able to
sell anything from Legendary Aircraft when you operate like this ?
That for me is a mystery.
TORE
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| From: | "Tore S. Bristol" <tf51(at)c2i.net> |
Ed ,
according to this mail, my PSRU should be ready by now, but I have asked
you several times if I can pic it up , but you will not reply .
Would like confirmation before I make the trip from Norway to CA .
Or is this just a new lie , as it has been for more than 3 1/2 years
since I paid ?
Anyway I am coming out to CA , so we will see .
Had a mail from Rob in Holland the other day , understand you made him
pay about 1 year ago as well , but as me he has received nothing .
How long do you think you can keep cheating people ?
Tore.
----- Original Message -----
From: Ed Hullinger
Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 3:54 PM
Subject: Re: PSRU
Tore,
I'm finishing up a group right now with the changes that we had to make.
30 days and yours will be ready.
Ed
----- Original Message -----
From: Tore S. Bristol
To: ed(at)legendaryaircraft.com
Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 5:54 AM
Subject: Fw: PSRU
Ed ,
Another 6 months have passed , 3 1/2 years altogether since you said
my PSRU was ready , and you tricked me into paying .
All I have had since then is empty promises .
Tore
----- Original Message -----
From: Tore S. Bristol
To: ed(at)legendaryaircraft.com
Cc: fewmustang-list(at)matronics.com
Sent: Friday, September 22, 2006 11:39 PM
Subject: Fw: PSRU
----- Original Message -----
From: Tore S. Bristol
To: fewmustang-list(at)matronics.com
Sent: Friday, September 22, 2006 3:06 PM
Subject: PSRU
Ed
early July this year you sent me a mail saying you would ship my PSRU
within a month , or just after Oshkosh at the latest .
Since then you have asked for my address ( for the umphteen time )
I have since asked for a date , so I could be in FL when it arrived.
Since then nothing but silence , and you do not reply to mails sent to
Legendary Aircraft.
I can only guess this is just another delaying tactic , just like it
has been in the past.
Actually it is now 3 years since you said the PSRU was finished ,
asked me to send the money .
How on earth do you expect to have ANY credability , and be able to
sell anything from Legendary Aircraft when you operate like this ?
That for me is a mystery.
TORE
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| From: | Bristolsabre(at)aol.com |
Ed,
it is now 45 days since you promised my PSRU would be ready in 30 days , and
more than 3 1/2 years since you said it was ready the first time ! ( and I
paid )
As this is the 21st time ( I think ) you have said so , it is obviously
another delaying trick .
As you are not replying to mails on your adress , I have to post it here .
I will be coming by to pick up the PSRU as well as the money you owe me.
Tore
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| From: | HMS23TURBO(at)aol.com |
Tore,
Why don't you call me rather than post personal business things on the
Internet, to an email / forum service that hasn't been actively used for 2 1/2
years? 805.525.5151.
Ed
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| From: | Bristolsabre(at)aol.com |
Ed ,
because you never answear the phone or reply to e- mails to your adress .
If you had been honest during the last 3 1/2 years, we would not be having
this conversation .
This seems to be the only way to get your attention .
So again , when can I pick up my PSRU ?
Tore
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| From: | Bristolsabre(at)aol.com |
| Subject: | Missing PSRU for 3 1/2 Years |
Ed ,
I have noticed that you have not responded to my request for a date when I
can pick up my PSRU .
As it is getting closer to departure for my trip west , I need to know .
As you may remember you told me on Jan 18 th that you were finishing a batch
of PSRUs , and that mine would be finished in 30 days ?
But that is also what you said in July 2006 , and 19 other times since Aug
8th 2003 .
My phone no in FL is 386 758 2028 , and you also have my E/ mail adress !
Tore
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| Subject: | Re: Missing PSRU for 3 1/2 Years |
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| From: | HMS23TURBO(at)aol.com |
| Subject: | Re: Missing PSRU for 3 1/2 Years |
Tore,
Read one of the three emails that I have sent in the last week and you'll see
that I indicated that I was planning to come to Sun 'n Fun next month and
will have your PSRU in the back seat of the Mustang.
I will call you prior to that.
I am taking my name off of this list immediately so please only email to the
company address from this point on.
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| From: | "Kenneth Melvin" <Melvinke(at)coho.net> |
| Subject: | Missing PSRU for 3 1/2 Years |
That is fabulous news, Ed! I wish I was going to be at Sun 'n Fun too. Very
best wishes for a great trip.
Ken Melvin
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[mailto:owner-fewmustang-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of
HMS23TURBO(at)aol.com
Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2007 3:36 PM
Subject: Re: FEWMustang-List: Missing PSRU for 3 1/2 Years
Tore,
Read one of the three emails that I have sent in the last week and you'll
see that I indicated that I was planning to come to Sun 'n Fun next month
and will have your PSRU in the back seat of the Mustang.
I will call you prior to that.
I am taking my name off of this list immediately so please only email to the
company address from this point on.
Ed
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| From: | Bristolsabre(at)aol.com |
| Subject: | Re: Missing PSRU for 3 1/2 Years |
Ed
I have only got one mail from you last week , and that is the one where you
berate me for posting on the FEW list .
No replies to my requests about when I could pick up the PSRU .
Tore
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| From: | "Tore S. Bristol" <tf51(at)c2i.net> |
Ed.
Oh what a surprise , you did not make it to S&F !?
When I wisited at Santa Paula on March 18th , to pick up my PSRU , which
was to be ready around Feb 20th, ( according to you ) you of course had
nothing , and got really agitated when I accepted your offer to take it
disasembled .
So it was obvious that offer was not real .
You also guarantied that I would get the PSRU AND the money you owe me
at S&F , which of course did not happen either
.
But what is stopping you from sending the money ?
You promised to transfer that more than 3 years ago !
You have my adress , you must have asked for it at least 5 or 6 times ,
so surely by now you must have it written down ?
And now you ask for my phone No . which you obviously had when you
called and blamed me for loosing the sale of a kit in March .
But I mailed my cell no to you anyway , and monitor my cell waiting for
your call !
So now you are shipping the PSRU this week ?
These are indeed exciting times !
Only 3 more days , and it is finally on its way !??!??
Tore
----- Original Message -----
From: Ed Hullinger
To: Tore S. Bristol
Sent: Friday, April 20, 2007 4:50 PM
Subject: Sun 'n Fun
Tore,
After fighting landing gear issues we're not going to make it to Sun
'n Fun.
Your PSRU will be shipped to you in Florida next week when I get back
to CA after a quick overseas trip.
If you will give me a phone number to reach you, I'll call as soon as
I can.
Ed
----- Original Message -----
From: Tore S. Bristol
To: Ed Hullinger
Sent: Friday, January 26, 2007 8:12 AM
Subject: Re: PSRU
Ed
So I can come and pick it up around March 1st then .
Tore
----- Original Message -----
From: Ed Hullinger
To: Tore S. Bristol
Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 3:54 PM
Subject: Re: PSRU
Tore,
I'm finishing up a group right now with the changes that we had to
make. 30 days and yours will be ready.
Ed
----- Original Message -----
From: Tore S. Bristol
To: ed(at)legendaryaircraft.com
Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 5:54 AM
Subject: Fw: PSRU
Ed ,
Another 6 months have passed , 3 1/2 years altogether since you
said my PSRU was ready , and you tricked me into paying .
All I have had since then is empty promises .
Tore
----- Original Message -----
From: Tore S. Bristol
To: ed(at)legendaryaircraft.com
Cc: fewmustang-list(at)matronics.com
Sent: Friday, September 22, 2006 11:39 PM
Subject: Fw: PSRU
----- Original Message -----
From: Tore S. Bristol
To: fewmustang-list(at)matronics.com
Sent: Friday, September 22, 2006 3:06 PM
Subject: PSRU
Ed
early July this year you sent me a mail saying you would ship my
PSRU within a month , or just after Oshkosh at the latest .
Since then you have asked for my address ( for the umphteen time
)
I have since asked for a date , so I could be in FL when it
arrived.
Since then nothing but silence , and you do not reply to mails
sent to Legendary Aircraft.
I can only guess this is just another delaying tactic , just
like it has been in the past.
Actually it is now 3 years since you said the PSRU was finished
, asked me to send the money .
How on earth do you expect to have ANY credability , and be able
to sell anything from Legendary Aircraft when you operate like this ?
That for me is a mystery.
TORE
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| From: | HMS23TURBO(at)aol.com |
Hi Tore,
Yes, No Sun 'n Fun as we were busy building parts and fighting the old style
L/G on the demonstrator. Thankfully the new L/G system works very well and we
won't have future problems. Your PSRU is shipping this week. Maybe then you
give up on all this name calling stuff. You'll be quite happy when you see the
final product. I do need a phone number for you for the shipping airway bill.
Ed
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| From: | "Tore S. Bristol" <tf51(at)c2i.net> |
Ed,
I have given you both my cell no and you already have my home no , so
which nos is it you want ?
And I take it for granted you are shipping it surface , not air , and
door to door , so I can be there to sign for it .
Just curious ; when have I called you names ?
Tore
----- Original Message -----
From: HMS23TURBO(at)aol.com
To: fewmustang-list(at)matronics.com
Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2007 7:33 PM
Subject: Re: FEWMustang-List: Re: Sun 'n Fun
Hi Tore,
Yes, No Sun 'n Fun as we were busy building parts and fighting the old
style L/G on the demonstrator. Thankfully the new L/G system works very
well and we won't have future problems. Your PSRU is shipping this week.
Maybe then you give up on all this name calling stuff. You'll be quite
happy when you see the final product. I do need a phone number for you
for the shipping airway bill.
Ed
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| From: | "Kenneth Melvin" <Melvinke(at)coho.net> |
Ed, the new landing gear setup is of great interest to us here in Portland.
Do you plan to add a description to the website? Did you by any chance
utilize the Siemens digital unit?
Thanks,
Ken Melvin, N51KX
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Tore S. Bristol" <tf51(at)c2i.net> |
Ed,
"next week " has now come to an end , and my PSRU is finally on it`s
way after nearly 4 years of promises of "next week and within 30 days" .
So of course you are now going to e-mail me details of shipping ,
including tracking no ?
Tore
----- Original Message -----
From: HMS23TURBO(at)aol.com
To: fewmustang-list(at)matronics.com
Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2007 7:33 PM
Subject: Re: FEWMustang-List: Re: Sun 'n Fun
Hi Tore,
Yes, No Sun 'n Fun as we were busy building parts and fighting the old
style L/G on the demonstrator. Thankfully the new L/G system works very
well and we won't have future problems. Your PSRU is shipping this week.
Maybe then you give up on all this name calling stuff. You'll be quite
happy when you see the final product. I do need a phone number for you
for the shipping airway bill.
Ed
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| From: | "Tore S. Bristol" <tf51(at)c2i.net> |
Hi Ed,
you better check with the shipping company as to what happened to my
PSRU .
Whenyou it shipped 2 weeks ago you "forgot " to inform me how it was
shipped , so I=B4m unable to track it from here .
Tore
----- Original Message -----
From: HMS23TURBO(at)aol.com
To: fewmustang-list(at)matronics.com
Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2007 7:33 PM
Subject: Re: FEWMustang-List: Re: Sun 'n Fun
Hi Tore,
Yes, No Sun 'n Fun as we were busy building parts and fighting the old
style L/G on the demonstrator. Thankfully the new L/G system works very
well and we won't have future problems. Your PSRU is shipping this week.
Maybe then you give up on all this name calling stuff. You'll be quite
happy when you see the final product. I do need a phone number for you
for the shipping airway bill.
Ed
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| From: | HMS23TURBO(at)aol.com |
Tore,
Will do. I think it was Burlington, but will confirm later today.
Ed
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| From: | "Tore S. Bristol" <tf51(at)c2i.net> |
Ed ,
I=B4m still waiting as usual !
Tore
----- Original Message -----
From: HMS23TURBO(at)aol.com
To: fewmustang-list(at)matronics.com
Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 5:48 PM
Subject: Re: FEWMustang-List: Re: Sun 'n Fun
Tore,
Will do. I think it was Burlington, but will confirm later today.
Ed
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| From: | "Tore S. Bristol" <tf51(at)c2i.net> |
Ed ,
since you refuse to give me any details , I checked with Burlington ,
but they had no records anywhere that you had shipped anything to me .
SURPRISE !
They also confirmed that if you did , I should have it by now .
Could it be you are lying to me again , if so that is not very smart !
Thought I made that clear when I wisited Santa Paula in March .
You are obviously doing this to quite a few of your customers ( taking
their money , and not delivering ) so several are looking into taking
legal action to get the money back .
I should also think this will severly hurt your ability to do business ,
as more and more people gets wise to how you operate !
Tore
----- Original Message -----
From: HMS23TURBO(at)aol.com
To: fewmustang-list(at)matronics.com
Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 5:48 PM
Subject: Re: FEWMustang-List: Re: Sun 'n Fun
Tore,
Will do. I think it was Burlington, but will confirm later today.
Ed
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| From: | "Tore S. Bristol" <tf51(at)c2i.net> |
Ed,
" later today" is now 3 days ago ?
Still waiting ,
Tore
----- Original Message -----
From: HMS23TURBO(at)aol.com
To: fewmustang-list(at)matronics.com
Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 5:48 PM
Subject: Re: FEWMustang-List: Re: Sun 'n Fun
Tore,
Will do. I think it was Burlington, but will confirm later today.
Ed
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| From: | "Tore S. Bristol" <tf51(at)c2i.net> |
| Subject: | Ed Hullinger and Legendary Aircraft |
Ed ,
do you realize we have another anniversary ?!
It=B4s now 45 months since you sent me an e-mail telling me my PSRU was
ready within a week !
And around 44 months since I paid !
It=B4s allso the 25 th time you have told me I would have it "next week"
or "within a month" and so forth .
The way you "conduct business" should be a serious warning to potential
customers !
I can only warn them ; DO NOT PART WITH ANY MONEY until you have your
stuff in your hand .
Ed has proved time and again that he can NOT BE TRUSTED !
But the good thing is that in the meantime at least 2 other PSRUs have
been developed , and they are both cheaper and superior to yours .
It=B4s clear that you have no intetion of ever shipping me anything , so
I want my money back , including the extra 2000 $ you have no right to .
I know you are pulling the same trick on other builders too , even the
investors .
I know you have my account No .
Tore
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| From: | "Tore S. Bristol" <tf51(at)c2i.net> |
Ken ,
you are of course familiar with the control unit that Mr Hurlburt in FL has
developed ?
It does away with all the cables and stuff by adding a neat little hyd
cylinder to open the downlocks , and sequenses U/C and doors by means of a
compact little box .
Both Jan and I have this , and I have seen it work .
And this guy DELIVERS promptly as soon as he has been paid .
Even made some mods , and made new scematics overnite for me !
Tore
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kenneth Melvin" <Melvinke(at)coho.net>
Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2007 7:57 PM
Subject: RE: FEWMustang-List: Re: Sun 'n Fun
>
>
> Ed, the new landing gear setup is of great interest to us here in
> Portland.
> Do you plan to add a description to the website? Did you by any chance
> utilize the Siemens digital unit?
> Thanks,
> Ken Melvin, N51KX
>
>
>
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| From: | "Tore S. Bristol" <tf51(at)c2i.net> |
| Subject: | Re: PSRU and Ed Hullinger of Legendary Aircraft |
Ed ,
I have given you my adress in FL numerous times !
Don=B4t you keep the adress of your customers ?
And on May 5th 2007 you even told me you had shipped the PSRU to me in
FL .
How did you manage without my adress ?
The thing with modern communications is that it makes it hard to tell
lies without getting caught .
My cell phone shows missed calls , and the only one from you was last
nite at 7:29 PM FL time .
You asked me to stop posting on the FEW list ,which I agreed to , but
only because you guarantied I would get my PSRU, AND the money you owe
me at S&F .
Which of course didn=B4t happen .
So I will continue to warn other people about you and Legendary aircraft
.
I also thought I made it clear that if you lied to me again , I will
look into taking legal action .
And then I will sue for interest and legal costs as well .
I have mailed you on May 9th and 18th and asked for my money back , as
it is obvious you are not ever going to ship anything , and there are
other better , and cheaper units out there .
So now you come up again with an offer to ship the PSRU for the 26th
time ,
I would say your credability is very close to a big ZERO !
Getting me up and flying safely !?
You have been the biggest obstacle with this project !
But I guess you have made it safe by keeping me from finishing and
flying .
I used to feel sorry for you , but after been lied to for 4 years , I am
fed up with you .
And "YOUR PSRU CAN BE IN FL NEXT WEEK " sounds very familiar , wonder
if i didn=B4t hear that before ?
Getting past this has been entirely up to you since Aug 8th 2003 !
Sorry it has come to this , but it is entirely your doing by lying for 4
years !
My adress again ; ( and again this time write it down )
Tore S Bristol
408 SW Airpark Glen
Lake City
32025 FL
32025
And my acc. No. ( which you also already have )
Bank of America
0030 6789 0056
So now there should be nothing stopping you .
----- Original Message -----
From: Ed Hullinger
To: Tore S. Bristol
Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2007 2:05 AM
Subject: PSRU
Tore,
I'm done with your unit. I've asked for your shipping address several
times and still don't have it. PLEASE give it to me so that we can get
this over with.
I have tried to call on 3 occasions - one of which was just after we
spoke last and got no answer. This is also my third email to you in the
last 3 days.
I don't have access to the old FEW message board but have been told
that the bashing continues. You need to understand that I am doing all I
can to assure that any PSRU or engine package that goes out of here is
of the utmost quality. The delays for continued development and quality
assurance are warranted and I'm certain that at some point you will
learn to appreciate all the effort I have made.
Or, If you prefer. I would be happy to return any of the funds that
have been received here from you. Remember, any money that was sent to
FEW was spent well before my involvement.
If you choose - YOUR PSRU CAN BE IN FLORIDA NEXT WEEK.
Tore, let's get past this and work toward getting you up and flying
SAFELY.
Ed
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| From: | "Kenneth Melvin" <Melvinke(at)coho.net> |
I would be interested to find out more about that system, Tore. It sounds
like the system developed by the late David Bothe. I sent Ed a Siemens CPU
similar to that used by Wickham in Australia, and which integrates the
sequencing of valves for the system. Amongst other things, Ed and colleagues
have been experimenting with that unit. But more importantly, Ed has been
looking at overcoming the fragility and relative unreliability of the
original micro switches. I have no issue with the cable system, which is
very similar to that in the original Mustang. Not too difficult to set up,
and very reliable. But the microswitches worry me. Ed has a better variety
of switch, utilizing the plunger rather than the leaf actuator. Another big
improvement Ed has is the method for securing the inner door actuators.
Simple, elegant, and much more reliable than the screws into wood. Very
similar to that used in the Viper jet. Also, I would like a more reliable
and robust system for emergency release of the gear. Apparently Ed has
arrived at just that. I have no doubts that you will get your PSRU, and
will be very happy with it. Ed is a perfectionist of the first order. I know
it has continued to be a work in progress, and that as a result, your unit
will be better than ours! Keep the faith.
Thanks,
Ken Melvin, N51KX
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Kenneth Melvin" <Melvinke(at)coho.net> |
Tore, can you direct us to further information on the Hurlburt gear mod?
Thanks,
Ken
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| From: | "Tore S. Bristol" <tf51(at)c2i.net> |
Ken ,
it is David Bothes system , but Frank Hurlburt designed it from what I
understand .
I met him a couple of times , and he seemed very capable and honest .
His company is called Business Engeneering , and the system comes with a
complete owners manual and explains everything in detail and with nice
diagrams and pictures .
As I said earlier , when I needed adifferent layout for the tailwheel , I
had a new diagram for the hyd . and elec . within 24 hours .
Have his phone no. somewhere if you are interested .
I too think my PSRU will be better than yours , but I dont think I will get
it from Ed .
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kenneth Melvin" <Melvinke(at)coho.net>
Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2007 6:51 PM
Subject: RE: FEWMustang-List: Re: Sun 'n Fun
>
>
> I would be interested to find out more about that system, Tore. It sounds
> like the system developed by the late David Bothe. I sent Ed a Siemens CPU
> similar to that used by Wickham in Australia, and which integrates the
> sequencing of valves for the system. Amongst other things, Ed and
> colleagues
> have been experimenting with that unit. But more importantly, Ed has been
> looking at overcoming the fragility and relative unreliability of the
> original micro switches. I have no issue with the cable system, which is
> very similar to that in the original Mustang. Not too difficult to set up,
> and very reliable. But the microswitches worry me. Ed has a better variety
> of switch, utilizing the plunger rather than the leaf actuator. Another
> big
> improvement Ed has is the method for securing the inner door actuators.
> Simple, elegant, and much more reliable than the screws into wood. Very
> similar to that used in the Viper jet. Also, I would like a more reliable
> and robust system for emergency release of the gear. Apparently Ed has
> arrived at just that. I have no doubts that you will get your PSRU, and
> will be very happy with it. Ed is a perfectionist of the first order. I
> know
> it has continued to be a work in progress, and that as a result, your unit
> will be better than ours! Keep the faith.
> Thanks,
> Ken Melvin, N51KX
>
>
>
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| From: | "Tore S. Bristol" <tf51(at)c2i.net> |
Ed,
I presume you have received my Adress and Account No .
And written them down , so there is nothing stopping you from sending it
!?
Tore
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| From: | "Tore S. Bristol" <tf51(at)c2i.net> |
Ed ,
I sent you my adress and account no as you requested 3 days ago.
So I presume you have shipped the PSRU that was done according to this
mail ?
I have mailed you 3 times , but as usual there is no reply .
Tore
----- Original Message -----
From: HMS23TURBO(at)aol.com
To: tf51(at)c2i.net
Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2007 2:02 AM
Subject: Re: Phone call
Tore,
I'm done with your unit. I've asked for your shipping address several
times and still don't have it. PLEASE give it to me so that we can get
this over with.
I have tried to call on 3 occasions - one of which was just after we
spoke last and got no answer. This is also my third email to you in the
last 3 days.
I don't have access to the old FEW message board but have been told
that the bashing continues. You need to understand that I am doing all I
can to assure that any PSRU or engine package that goes out of here is
of the utmost quality. The delays for continued development and quality
assurance are warranted and I'm certain that at some point you will
learn to appreciate all the effort I have made.
Or, If you prefer. I would be happy to return any of the funds that
have been received here from you. Remember, any money that was sent to
FEW was spent well before my involvement.
If you choose - YOUR PSRU CAN BE IN FLORIDA NEXT WEEK.
Tore, let's get past this and work toward getting you up and flying
SAFELY.
Ed
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| From: | <uh-1driver(at)earthlink.net> |
| Subject: | Landing gear controller |
Tore,
You have contact information for the landing gear controller?
I have a ZZ4 engine and the exhaust ports are not evenly spaced for open
stack headers. Does anyone have info, drawings or sketches on the log
style
exhaust?
Darren Henley
Uh-1driver(at)earthlink.net
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| From: | "Tore S. Bristol" <tf51(at)c2i.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Landing gear controller |
Darren
Yes I do , try calling Frank Hurlburt Sarasota FL ; 941 924 2522 , and
say hello from me . If this no isn=B4t walid anylonger , I also have his
adress .
He is building a Lancair 4P , and seem very capable and efficient .
I have pics of the original FEW log system , but I would not copy that .
It is among other things too restrictive .
There isn=B4t a lot of room , but I think it should be possible to have
curved pipes comming off the head into a small diameter pipe if the pipe
sits flush with the opening in the aluminum part of the cowling vith .
Then you can have 6 smaller pipes at an angle from the log if you like .
So you are rotary wing driver ?
Have a few years in those too .
Tore
----- Original Message -----
From: uh-1driver(at)earthlink.net
To: fewmustang-list(at)matronics.com
Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2007 5:16 PM
Subject: FEWMustang-List: Landing gear controller
Tore,
You have contact information for the landing gear controller?
I have a ZZ4 engine and the exhaust ports are not evenly spaced for
open stack headers. Does anyone have info, drawings or sketches on the
log style exhaust?
Darren Henley
Uh-1driver(at)earthlink.net
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| From: | "Darren Henley" <uh-1driver(at)earthlink.net> |
| Subject: | Landing gear controller |
Tore,
Spent 6 years in the (US) Army flying AH-1 Cobras, 14 years in the
National
Guard flying UH-1 =93Hueys=94 and recently check out in UH-60
Blackhawks.
Darren
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-fewmustang-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-fewmustang-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tore S.
Bristol
Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2007 12:24 PM
Subject: Re: FEWMustang-List: Landing gear controller
Darren
Yes I do , try calling Frank Hurlburt Sarasota FL ; 941 924 2522 , and
say
hello from me . If this no isn=B4t walid anylonger , I also have his
adress .
He is building a Lancair 4P , and seem very capable and efficient .
I have pics of the original FEW log system , but I would not copy that .
It is among other things too restrictive .
There isn=B4t a lot of room , but I think it should be possible to have
curved
pipes comming off the head into a small diameter pipe if the pipe sits
flush
with the opening in the aluminum part of the cowling vith .
Then you can have 6 smaller pipes at an angle from the log if you like .
So you are rotary wing driver ?
Have a few years in those too .
Tore
----- Original Message -----
From: uh-1driver(at)earthlink.net
Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2007 5:16 PM
Subject: FEWMustang-List: Landing gear controller
Tore,
You have contact information for the landing gear controller?
I have a ZZ4 engine and the exhaust ports are not evenly spaced for open
stack headers. Does anyone have info, drawings or sketches on the log
style
exhaust?
Darren Henley
Uh-1driver(at)earthlink.net
href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?FEWMustang-List">http://www.ma
troni
cs.com/Navigator?FEWMustang-List
href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com
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| From: | "Tore S. Bristol" <tf51(at)c2i.net> |
Ed ,
Do you realize we now have another anniversary ?
It is now more than 3 years and 10 months since it " was ready in a week
" !
And what happened to the 26 th promise of delivery of last month ?
The one were I "could have in Florida next week " ?
You also asked for my adress again , but after I sent that , there has
not been any sign of life from you in spite of several mails .
Computor us ?
According to attached mail , you have now been working on my PSRU since
August 2003 !!!!!
Tore
----- Original Message -----
From: HMS23TURBO(at)aol.com
Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2003 2:34 AM
Subject: PSRU
Tore,
I hope you made it home safely
Just letting you know that I'm working on your PSRU at the moment. A
coupe of days and it will be completed. Likely run the pre-delivery test
early next week.
Dave Bothe came out for a couple of days for a bit of inspiration.
Ed
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| From: | "Tore S. Bristol" <tf51(at)c2i.net> |
| Subject: | Re: shipping address |
Ed
sure thing ; here it is again for the sixth time in the last 12 months .
You really should try to be more organized Ed !
Tore S Bristol
408 SW Airpark Glen
Lake City
32025 Florida
But I thought you said you shipped it early May with Burlington ?
Of course you will also send the money you owe me at the same time ?
My account No was with my adress in the mail I sent you on May 20th 2007
.
Looking forward to receiving it as usual !
Tore
----- Original Message -----
From: Ed Hullinger
To: Tore S. Bristol
Sent: Monday, June 18, 2007 9:46 PM
Subject: shipping address
Tore,
Please give me the shipping address for your PSRU. It's in a box ready
to go. If you have sent it previously, I don't have it. Just resend it
and your unit will be out of here.
Ed
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | New Realtime Spell Checker Added To Matronics Forums! |
Dear Listers,
Today 9/8/2007 I have added a new real-time spell checker function to all of the
BBS Forums at Matronics. When you reply or create a new message on the Forums,
you will notice that misspelled words will be high-lighted in yellow. If
you left-click on the word, you will be prompted with a drop-down list of suggested
spellings.
http://forums.matronics.com
Enjoy!
Matt Dralle
Matornics Email List and Forum Administrator
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| Subject: | Hello everyone?!?!? |
| From: | "3xtamper" <jwalker(at)dpatrol.com> |
Johnnie Walker here from Colorado. Stopped in at Legendary Ac. in Feb. and talked
to Ed. All was well then and had a great time. Talked to him a couple months
later when they were working on the Kitplanes artical and all was well.
Now no answer on the phone or emails..... Whats going on? Looked all over the
internet and lots of bad news on the psru being late..... Drop a line here
or call 719-337-9907 and say hello to tell me whats going on. Take care, Johnnie
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=138696#138696
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | November is Matronics Email List Fund Raiser Month! |
Dear Listers,
You've probably noticed that there are no banner ads or pop-up windows or spam
from any of the List and Forum services at Matronics. These include, for example:
The Email List Postings - http://www.matronics.com/listbrowse
The Email List Forum Site - http://forums.matronics.com
The List Wiki - http://wiki.matronics.com
The List Search Engine - http://www.matronics.com/search
This is because I have always enjoyed a List experience that was completely about
the sport we enjoy - airplanes - and not about advertising!
But running a high performance, highly available service like this isn't free and
a fair amount of money in terms of computer upgrades, business-class Internet
connectivity, and electricity. Consequently, many similar sites turn to advertising
to support these costs. Advertising that you have to look at each and
every time you read an email message or browse the their web site.
Rather than subject my List community to another constant commercial bombardment,
I have chosen to hold a PBS-like fund raiser each year in November to support
the continued operation and upgrade of the List services. It's solely through
the Contributions of List members that the Lists and Forums continue to be
possible!
During the month, I will be sending out a Fund Raiser reminder message every few
days and I ask for your patience and understanding during the month throughout
these regular messages. Think of them as PBS' Pledge Breaks... :-)
To minimize the impact of the Fund Raiser on the List community, I implemented
a new feature late last year specifically related to making Contributions. If
you are an Email List subscriber, once you make a Contribution using the online
web site, you will no longer receive the email from me regarding the Fund Raiser!
There are a couple of exceptions to this, however. If someone replies
to a Contribution message I've sent, you might receive that. Additionally, the
messages will always be posted to the Forums site. To a first order, however,
once you make a Contribution, you won't get my email messages about the Fund
Raiser for the rest of the month. For Contributions by check, the squelch
will take effect once the check is received.
There is a whole new line up of really great Contribution gifts this year! When
you make a qualifying Contribution, you can select one of the many free gifts
that are available during the Fund Raiser. These gifts are provided through
the generous support of a number of our industry's leading supporters including:
Bob Nuckolls - AeroElectric - http://www.aeroelectric.com
Andy Gold - Builder's Bookstore - http://www.buildersbooks.com
Jon Croke - HomebuiltHELP - http://www.homebuilthelp.com
Please visit these guy's respective sites, as they have some great products to
offer and are generously supporting the Matronics List Fund Raiser.
You can make your List Contribution using any one of three secure methods this
year including using a credit card, PayPal, or by personal check. From the Contribution
site, you can select any one of this year's free gifts with a qualifying
Contribution amount. The Contribution page is pretty loooonnnnng this year
in order to list great selection of great gifts available so be sure to scroll
all the way to the bottom of the web page to see everything that's available!
Please make a List Support Contribution:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
I would like to thank everyone in advance for their generous support! Your Contributions
truely keep this operation afloat!
Thank you,
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Forum Administrator
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | List Fund Raiser |
Dear Listers,
Just a reminder that November is the Matronics Email List Fund Raiser month. I've
got a bunch of really nice incentive gifts this year. There's really something
for everyone!
Please make a Contribution today:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Thank you!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | What Listers Are Saying... |
November is Matronics List Fund Raiser month and a number people been sending some
really nice comments regarding the Lists. I thought I'd share a few below.
The Lists are completely supported by your Contributions. All of the bills for
new hardware, connectivity, and electricity are paid by the generous support
of the List members.
Please make your Contribution today to support the continued operation of the List
and Forums:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Thank you!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
================= What Listers Are Saying ================
Flying and building is much safer with this List!!
Robert D.
Thanks for having and maintaining such a great resource to
all of us builders and flyers.
Wayne E.
Love the fact that you haven't caved to advertising!
Peter J.
..a great resource!!
Robert C.
Not building at the moment, but the Lists keeps me right
up to date with what's going on.
Chris D.
The web forum has been running great.
James O.
I enjoy this [List] site very much...
Paul C.
This is a great list!
Albert G.
..a valuable resource!
Roger C.
I am deployed to Pakistan right now, and being able
to go on-line and keep up with the aircraft discussions
helps keep the aircraft building dream alive in my mind!
Gregory C.
..fantastic service!
Roger M.
..clearly a work of passion!
Mike C.
It is a great service to us!
Kevin C.
The list is a wonderful resource...
Ralph O.
[The Lists] have been the single greatest resource in
building my RV-9A and now my RV-10.
Albert G.
..a valuable and always improving service.
Dick S.
STILL THE BEST BARGAIN AROUND!!
Owen B.
..such a valuable tool.
Jon M.
[The Lists] have been an invaluable resource for me
as a Zenith homebuilder.
David G.
The opportunity to meet (on line at least) many other
interesting builders and to make some new friends is
truly appreciated.
Albert G.
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | If You Got This Email, You Haven't Made A Contribution |
Yet! :-)
Dear Listers,
If you received this particular Matronics List Email message, its because you haven't
yet made a Contribution to support your Lists! Implemented for the first
time last year, the Matronics system selectively sends out the Contribution
messages to those that forgot to whip out the 'ol credit card this year to support
the continued operation and upgrade of the Matronics Email Lists! Don't
you wish PBS worked that way? :-)
You heard that right. Once you make your Contribution, these support requests
messages during November will suddenly stop coming to your personal email inbox!
I wanted to implement something like this for a number of years, but it was
always such a daunting task to modify the back-end List processing code, that
I just kept putting it off. Finally last year, I just decided to bite the bullet
and put the code-pounding time it to make it work. A few days later, bam!
A working system!
I really do appreciate each and every one of your individual Contributions to support
the Lists. It is your support that enables me to upgrade the hardware
and software that are required to run a List Site like this. It also goes to
pay for the commercial-grade Internet connection and to pay the rather huge electric
bill to keep the computer gear running and the air conditioner powered
up. I run ALL of the Matronics Email List and Forums sites here locally which
allows me to control and monitor every aspect of the system for the utmost in
reliably and performance.
Your personal Contribution matters because when combined with other Listers such
as yourself, it pays the bills to keep this site up and running. I accept exactly
ZERO advertising dollars for the Matronics Lists sites. I can't stand
the pop-up ads and all other commercialism that is so prevalent on the Internet
these days and I particularly don't want to have it on my Email List site.
If you appreciate the ad-free, grass-roots, down-home feel of the Matronics Email
Lists, please make a Contribution to keep it that way!!
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Thank you!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
[Please note the following regarding the selective posting system. There are certain
circumstances where you might still see a Contribution related message.
These situations include if someone replies to one of the messages, or when
using the List Browse feature, or when accessing List message via the Forum.
Since most of these are anonymous public access methods, there is no simple way
to filter them.]
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Post Mortem - Matronics List Pummeled By Spam... |
Dear Listers,
Over a 3-day period, Thursday 11/8 though Saturday 11/10, the Matronics Lists were
pummeled with over 450,000 spam emails causing posting delays and a few duplicate
messages. Yeah, I really said nearly half a million spams! The good
news is that I don't believe a single one of them actually made it to the Lists
thanks to the aggressive List filtering code and the Barracuda spam filter.
The bad news was that it caused quite a back log of email messages starting Friday
and continuing until late Saturday when I noticed that delivery seemed a bit
sluggish. By about 11pm on Saturday night, I had managed to get the backlog
cleared out of the spam filter by temporarily adjusting some of the filtering.
A check of the queues this morning, and everything looks like its working great
and there are no incoming filtering delays and spam levels appear to be back
to "normal".
There were a number of people asking what was going on, so I thought that I'd send
out a follow up post mortem on the event...
November is the annual List Fund Raiser. Your contribution directly enables me
to buy systems like the Barracuda spam filter that keep the List free of that
garbage. Please make a contribution to support your Lists!
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Thank you!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | List of Contributors |
Each year at the end of the List Fund Raiser, I post a message acknowledging everyone
that so generously made a Contribution to support the Lists. Its sort of
my way of publicly thanking everyone that took a minute to show their appreciation
for the Lists.
Won't you take a moment and assure that your name is on that List of Contributors
(LOC)? As a number of members have pointed out over the years, the List seems
at least - if not a whole lot more - valuable as a building/flying/recreating/entertainment
tool as your typical magazine subscription!
Please take minute and assure that your name is on this year's LOC! Show others
that you appreciate the Lists. Making a Contribution to support the Lists is
fast and easy using your Credit card or Paypal on the Secure Web Site:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
or by popping a personal check in the mail to:
Matt Dralle / Matronics
PO Box 347
Livermore CA 94551-0347
I would like to thank everyone that has so generously made a Contribution thus
far in this year's List Fund Raiser! Remember that its YOUR support that keeps
these Lists going and improving! Don't forget to include a little comment about
how the Lists have helped you!
Best regards,
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
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| From: | "Russell Lassetter" <rblassett(at)alltel.net> |
| Subject: | Construction/Restoration |
Hello all,
I would like to offer my aircraft construction/restoration services to the
group. I have a 40' X 60' hangar in NE Georgia and have a lifetime of
experience with various aircraft. I can construct large projects for $15.00
per hour with first-class workmanship. Please email me directly or give me
a call.
Russ Lassetter
202 Aviation Blvd.
Cleveland, GA 30528
706-348-7514
rblassett(at)alltel.net
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Value of the List... |
If you look forward to checking your List email everyday (and a lot of you have
written to say that you do!), then you're probably getting at least 0 or 0 worth
of Entertainment from the Lists each year. You'd pay twice that for a subscription
to some lame magazine or even a dinner out. Isn't the List worth at least
that much to you? Wouldn't it be great if you could pay that amount and get
a well-managed media source free of advertising, SPAM, and viruses? Come to
think of it, you do... :-)
Won't you please take a minute to make your Contribution today and support the
Lists?
Contribution Page:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Again, I want to say THANK YOU to everyone that has made a Contribution thus far
during this year's List Fund Raiser!! These Lists are made possible exclusively
through YOUR generosity!!
Thank you for your support!
Matt Dralle
Email List Admin.
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Please Make a Contribution to Support Your Lists... |
Just a reminder that November is the Annual List Fund Raiser. Please make a Contribution
today to support the continued operation and upgrade of these great
List services!! And pick up a really nice free gift with your qualifying Contribution
too!
The Contribution Site is fast and easy:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Thank you!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
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| From: | Bristolsabre(at)aol.com |
| Subject: | Re: Mustang parts |
Ed ,
On Oct the 26 th you said the parts would be shipped the same day.
And in Sept . you told me my parts were ready , so why should I belive you
now ?
I belive you when I receive a tracking no , and have the stuff delivered to
my door .
May I remind you it is now nearly 4 1/2 years since you told me my PSRU was
ready , and I paid you ?
I still do not have a complete PSRU ! !
In the last week 2 builders have called , and 3 have mailed me , we all have
the same problem with you !
So now it seems there are others in addition to me who are looking into
taking action against you .
I have looked into this , and since I am a foreigner , and sent the money
from abroad ,
I can go to the state of CA and they will represent me .
They obviously do not want foreigners to be cheated .
Tore
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | [Please Read] Why I Have A Fund Raiser... |
Dear Listers,
Each year I like to explain why I have a Fund Raiser and also take the opportunity
to express why I think the List Services here provide a superior experience
over the commercial equivalents.
I use the List Fund Raiser each year to offset the costs involved with running
a high performance email list site such as this one. With the annual support from
the List members through the PBS-like Fund Raiser, I have found I can run
the entire site without having to inflect any of the members with those annoying
banner ads flashing up all the time trying to sell little-blue-pills or other
garbage nobody wants or needs. From the comments I've received over the years
regarding the Lists, the great majority of the members really appreciate the
non-commercialism of my List systems and don't mind my 'go-team-go' banter once
a year during November to encourage members to support the Lists.
I believe that the Lists services that I provide here offer many benefits over
the commercial equivalents in a number of ways. The first feature I believe to
be significant is that you cannot receive a computer v*rus from any of these
Lists directly. Each incoming message is filtered and dangerous attachments stripped
off prior to posting. I also provide a Photo and File Share feature that
allows members to share files and bitmaps with other members and everyone can
be assured that these files will be prescanned for any sort of v*rus before
they are posted. More recently, I have enabled limited posting of a number of
file formats including pictures and PDFs.
Another very important feature of this system in my opinion is the extensive List
Archives that are available for download, browsing, and searching. The Archives
go all the way back to the very beginning of each List and with the very
fast Search Engine, the huge size of some of the Archives is a non-issue in quickly
finding the data you're looking for.
And added just a couple of years ago is the new Email List Forum that allows members who prefer the Web BBS-style of List interaction. The beauty of the new List Forums is that they contain the exact same content that is distributed via email. Messages posted via email are cross-posted to the respective Forum and vice versa. The Forums also allow for another convenient method of sharing pictures and other files (http://forums.matronics.com ). Additionally, added recently is the List Wiki that allows members to build their own "Online List Encyclopedia" of sorts, documenting various aspects of their project for all to share ( http://wiki.matronics.com ).
I've been running email Lists and services under the matronics.com domain since
about 1989 starting with RV-List and 30 guys I knew and who where also building
RVs. It has grown into nearly 70 different aviation-related Email Lists and
an associated web site that receives over 34,000,000 hits each year!! Additionally,
the List Email system forwarded well over 77,000 postings last year, accounting
for an unbelievable 33,000,000 (yes, that's 33 MILLION) email messages
delivered to Matronics List subscribers! I think there's a lot of value in supporting
a service that has gone the long haul and is still providing and improving
a high quality service all _without any advertising budget_!
I have to admit running these Lists is a labor of love and I hope it shows in the
quality of the experience that you receive when you get a List Email Message,
Search the Archives, use the List Browser, or surf the Forums and Wiki sites.
The Lists will be here for a long time to come. If you just want to lurk a
while for free, that's great and I encourage you to do so. If you use, appreciate,
and receive value from these Lists, then please support them during the Annual
List Fund Raiser!
List Contribution Web Site:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Thank you,
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | What Are You Thankful For...? |
Dear Listers,
Here in the United States, Thursday is our National day of Thanksgiving. Many
of us will be traveling to be with our families and friends to share in generous
feasts of plenty and giving thanks for many blessings that have been bestowed
upon us.
Many Listers have expressed over the last couple of weeks how thankful they are
for the Email Lists and Forums here on the Matronics servers and for all of the
assistance and comradery they have experienced being a part of the Lists.
One of my favorite kind of comments is when write to me and says something like,
"Its the first thing I do in the morning while I'm having my morning coffee!".
That's a wonderful tribute to the purpose and function of these Lists. Its
always great to hear I'm not the only one that jumps out of bed each morning
to check my List email!!
Won't you take a minute today and show your appreciation for these Lists and for
their continued operation and upgrade?
The List Contribution Site is:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Thank you in advance for your kind consideration,
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
Dear Listers,
Below are a few more of the nice comments Listers have been making along with their
Contributions in support of the Lists this year. Please make your Contribution
today to support the continued operation and upgrade of these services.
Remember, there is _no advertising budget_ to keep these Lists funded. It is
solely through your generosity that they continue.
Please make a Contribution:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Thank you!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List and Forum Administrator
------------------------------What Listers Are Saying------------------------------
The list has been invaluable in the building of my Zenith CH701.
George R
Thanks for keeping the lists a non-commercial venue for us
to gather and share knowledge.
Neal G
What a fantastic resource!
Ralph C
It's a pretty cheep troubleshooting tool with and unlimited
resource of personal knowledge.
Bruce G
A full house of Info & Ideas...
Ellery B
I really enjoy the Piet list.
Steven D
The Lists are an indispensable resource for those of us
building OBAM aircraft.
Bret S
..a great service.
Frank D
..all in all it is a great resource if you ask specific
questions.
Richard S
Your list has really helped me in my first build.
Michael W
Always a pleasure to support this great resource...
Richard W
I enjoy the lists very much, they are very beneficial.
Bob L
Great place to chat with other builders and Flyers.
Ellery B
Your lists are a great service to builders and owners!
Richard D
A real good place for someone that is starting to get
interested into flying without investing any money at
first.
Ellery B
The list has been an great help to my building process.
David B
I'm close to finishing my Zenith 601 thanks to you and
the Zenith List.
Jeff D
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Make Sure You're Listed! List of Contributors Published |
Dec 1!
Dear Listers,
The List of Contributors (LOC) is just around the corner! On December 1st I post
a list of everyone that so generously made a Contribution to support the Lists.
Its my way of publicly thanking everyone that took a minute to show their
appreciation for the Lists.
As a number of people have pointed out in their Contribution comments, these Lists
seems at least as valuable of a building/flying/recreating tool as a typical
your magazine subscription! And how interactive is a magazine, after all?
Won't you take minute and assure that your name is on the upcoming LOC? Tell others
that you appreciate the Lists. Making a Contribution to support the Lists
is fast and easy using your Visa, MasterCard, or Paypal account:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Or, by dropping a personal check in the mail to:
Matronics / Matt Dralle
PO Box 347
Livermore CA 94551-0347
USA
(Please include your email address on the check!)
I would like to thank everyone that has so generously made a Contribution thus
far during this year's List Fund Raiser! Remember that its YOUR support that keeps
these Lists running and improving! Don't forget to include a little comment
about how the Lists have helped you!
Thank you!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Bristolsabre(at)aol.com |
| Subject: | Fwd: Mustang parts |
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | [Please Read] What are "The Lists" and Who's This Matt |
Dralle?
Dear Listers,
Who is Matt Dralle and what exactly are these Lists? Well, I've been working in
the information technology industry for nearly 25 years primarily in computer
networking design and implementation. I have also done extensive work in web
development and CGI design during that time, along with some embedded system
development as well.
I started the Matronics Email Lists back in 1990 with about 30 fellow RV builders
from around the world. Since that time, I have added 63 other kinds of aircraft
related Lists to the line up and numerous other List related services such
as the Forums, Wiki, Archives and Search Engine just to name a few.
For flexibility and reliability, I have chosen to run all of my own servers here
locally. Other List-related systems include a 1 Gigabit, fully switched network
infrastructure, a commercial-grade Netscreen firewall, a Barracuda spam filter,
a local T1 Internet router, and a commercial-grade business T1 Internet
connection with full static addressing.
The computer servers found here include a quad-processor Xeon Linux server for
List web services, a dual-processor Xeon Linux system dedicated to the email processing
List functions, and another P4 Linux system serving as a remote storage
disk farm for the archives, databases, and for an on-line hard drive-based
backup system with 3.2 Terra Bytes of storage! This entire system is protected
by three large, commercial-grade uninterrupted power supply (UPS) systems that
assure the Lists are available even during a local power outage! Speaking
of power, imagine how much electricity it takes to run all of these systems. One
month last Summer, I had a staggering $1368 bill for electricity alone!
I recently upgraded all of the computer racking infrastructure including new power
feeds and dedicated air conditioning for the room that serves as the Computer
Center for the Matronics Email Lists. Last year I added another rack to
house the MONSTER quad-processor web system that didn't quite fit into the first
rack! Here's a composite photo of the List Computer Center before the addition
of the second rack:
http://www.matronics.com/MattDralle-ListComputerCenter.jpg
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Wow! A Ton of Comments! |
Dear Listers,
I've been getting a ton of great comments from Listers along with their List Support
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Just Two Days Left... |
Dear Listers,
There are just a couple days left for this year's List Fund Raiser. Over all,
participation has been good, but things have been pretty slow this week for some
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Please make a Contribution today!
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| From: | Bristolsabre(at)aol.com |
| Subject: | Re: Mustang parts |
Ed ,
what do you mean by " as a gesture of good faith I hope " ?
There is no such thing as "good faith" concernig you .
You have had the $ 2000,- that do not belong to you now for nearly 4 years .
In june this year you told me you had the oiling system ready to ship , and
in sept . you said that the prop flange was finally ready after 3 1/2 years .
On nov 12th I had enough of your lies and told you I could make my own
oiling system unless you shipped it by by
nov. 16th . After that I ordered all the hoses and fittings I need .
Then you shipped the hoses on nov 26th !
Which part of " I do not want " is it you do not understand ?
And knowing you , I might get the rest in about 4 years time , if I am lucky
!?
As I told you on nov 12th , I want the flange that I paid for nearly 4 1/2
years ago , and the money you owe me .
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | [Please Read] - Last Official Day of List Fund Raiser! |
Dear Listers,
Its November 30th and that means a couple of things. Its my 44th birthday for
one, but I'm trying to forget about that... But, it also means that its that
last official day of the Matronics Email List Fund Raiser!
If you been drooling over one of the really sweet free gifts that are available
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I will be posting the List of Contributors in a few days, so you'll probably want
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er, ah, forgot (or whatever)... :-)
I want to thank everyone that has so generously made a Contribution so far this
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The List Contribution page is fast and easy. Please support our habit by making
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Thank you all in advance!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Matronics List Fund Raiser - 2007 List of Contributors |
Dear Listers,
I would like to thank everyone that made a Contribution in support of the Lists
this year! It was really nice to hear all great comments people had regarding
the Lists! As I have said many times before, running these Lists is a labor
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If you haven't yet made a Contribution in support of this year's Fund Raiser please
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THANK YOU!
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I will be shipping out all of the gifts in the next few weeks and hope to have
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Once again, thank you for making this year's List Fund Raiser successful!
Best regards,
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
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| From: | "Tore S. Bristol" <tf51(at)c2i.net> |
| Subject: | Re: tracking no. |
Ed ,
who do you think you are fooling ?
4 days later , nothing has been shipped .
I honestly do not care anylonger, and I am leaving this to the Ventura
DAs office .
It is just interesting to see what new tricks you are coming up with to
cheat your customers !
Tore
----- Original Message -----
From: Ed Hullinger
To: Tore S. Bristol
Sent: Monday, December 03, 2007 6:16 PM
Subject: tracking no.
Tore.
The tracking no. for the 2nd box is (UPS) 1Z1E815V0360757331
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Tore S. Bristol" <tf51(at)c2i.net> |
| Subject: | Fw: 8 Bolt flange etc . |
----- Original Message -----
From: Tore S. Bristol
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2007 10:30 PM
Subject: 8 Bolt flange etc .
Ed,
you finally sent SOME ( very few ) of the parts you said said you would
send several years ago .
In Jan 2004 ! you promised the 8 bolt flange !
Then on Oct 1st 2007 you said ; "will ship this week "
And on Oct 26th ; "shipped"
And on Nov 19th ; " in 2 days "
Then finally on Dec 15, 2 packages arrived , but the only useful content
was the tank .
The 6 bolt flange is for loose bolts , while the 8 bolt prop has the
bolts fixed to the hub , so I do not even know if I can use the 6 bolt
for measuring for the engine attachment to the mount .
If the 8 bolt was ready on oct 1st , why did you send the 6 bolt ?
And where is the filter ,CPU drive etc ?
Do you have a date when you intend to ship the rest ?
Also when I received the PSRU minus the flange on June 28th , there was
no documentation .
Has it been run at all ?
Expect to hear from you VERY soon !
Tore
PS
I have mailed this to you before , and phoned you time and again , but
you never reply , or call me back .
And you keep on lying as you have now for FOUR and a HALF years !!!!
So if i do not hear from you by Jan 4th 2008 I will file a complaint
with the Ventura DAs office against you .
Tore
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Tore S. Bristol" <tf51(at)c2i.net> |
| Subject: | Re: 8 bolt flange |
Hi Ed ,
hope you have a good holiday season so far .
If you have been reading your E-mail you should know that I told you "
NOT TO SHIP ANYTHING " if you had not by Nov 12 th !
You still went ahead and shipped ( hoses ?) on Nov 26th ! , and of
course it would come back to you , as I was not here !
There is something else I do not understand ;
You told me in Jan 4 YEARS AGO , you could make an 8 bolt falange for my
MT prop .
And countless times in the last 4 years you have told me it would be
ready
" next " week .
Then on Oct 1st this year ; Will ship reservoir , plumbing , filter AND
8 BOLT FLANGE this week .
So how come you you all of a sudden dont have the flange , and dont even
know which one I need ?
I also told you again a few days ago that I have an 8 bolt MT prop with
the bolts fixed to the hub , as opposed to loose bolts .
You know ; I just think you are still stalling and wasting my time as
you have been for the last 4 1/2 years .
I also told you that the 6 bolt mock up flange you promised more than 2
1/2 years ago,
and shipped 2 weeks ago was of very little use to me as it is for loose
bolts and have treaded inserts for loose bolts ( and the inserts
protrude so it has a different thicness )
I also asked for dokumentation on the PSRU , I have no indication that
it has been tested or run at all .
Again; if I do not have a timetable for delivery of the remaining parts
( and I excpect max 2 weeks ) by Jan 4th I will contact The Ventura DAs
office .
I have all the forms filled out and copies of relevant documents ready .
Do yourself a favour , and dont waste your time on delaying tactics !
I am really fed up with your way of " conducting business " and so it
seems are a lot of others .=B4
Tore
----- Original Message -----
From: Ed Hullinger
To: Tore S. Bristol
Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2007 7:55 PM
Subject: 8 bolt flange
Hi Tore.
Hope you are having a good holiday season thus far.
I noticed that the package I shipped that contained the plumbing hoses
and fitting for the PSRU was returned. Now that you have the reservoir,
would you like me to reship the plumbing?
My local MT representative is confirming the specifications for the
ARP880 flange. The standard 8 bolt prop hub we have on hand (Hartzell)
has an interference on the flange we built to MT's specs. Are you
planning on using an MT, Whirlwind, or Hartzell? There are subtle
differences. I hope the 6 bolt mock-up flange has been useful in the
meantime.
Ed
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | <uh-1driver(at)earthlink.net> |
| Subject: | FEW Mustang Canopy |
Hello all,
I am building a FEW P-51D and I wish to add a back seat, providing the
person isn't too terribly large. In order to make more headroom, I an
going
to make a high-top canopy instead of the teardrop canopy supplied with
the
kit. It will be approximately the same size over the pilot's head but
will
extend over the passenger's head and taper somewhat sharply behind the
passenger's head. I will fabricate fiberglass skirts, skirt frame and
canopy bow. I plan to have a quick change release in order to switch
canopies. If there are any interested persons please email me.
I found an aircraft custom canopy shop not three blocks from where I
work
and they do excellent work. I plan to have the front canopy side panels
redone there as well.
Does anyone have information about the springs used in the tailwheel box
assembly? I need the large spring that pulls the trapeze yoke against
the
over-center blocks and the uplock latch return spring. If I could get
the
spring barrel diameter, length, wire dia, pounds/inch tension and a
picture,(to identify the type of end hook). Any information would be
appreciated. With this, I can order the parts from the McMaster Carr
catalog.
I am also fabricating a hydraulic cylender for the tail wheel retract
mechinism and will publish plans as soon as it is completed.
Is anyone here not a member of the Replica Fighter's Association? It is
a
group that is dedicated to the building and flying of replica military
aircraft. They have a fairly active website and builder's group at
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Tore S. Bristol" <tf51(at)c2i.net> |
| Subject: | Re: FEW Mustang Canopy |
Darren ,
I have the complete tailwheelbox made from parts received from FEW , so
I can take it apart and measure and take pics ..
Let me know , and I will try to do it this weekend .
Regards
Tore
----- Original Message -----
From: uh-1driver(at)earthlink.net
To: fewmustang-list(at)matronics.com
Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2008 5:55 PM
Subject: FEWMustang-List: FEW Mustang Canopy
Hello all,
I am building a FEW P-51D and I wish to add a back seat, providing the
person isn't too terribly large. In order to make more headroom, I an
going to make a high-top canopy instead of the teardrop canopy supplied
with the kit. It will be approximately the same size over the pilot's
head but will extend over the passenger's head and taper somewhat
sharply behind the passenger's head. I will fabricate fiberglass
skirts, skirt frame and canopy bow. I plan to have a quick change
release in order to switch canopies. If there are any interested
persons please email me.
I found an aircraft custom canopy shop not three blocks from where I
work and they do excellent work. I plan to have the front canopy side
panels redone there as well.
Does anyone have information about the springs used in the tailwheel
box assembly? I need the large spring that pulls the trapeze yoke
against the over-center blocks and the uplock latch return spring. If I
could get the spring barrel diameter, length, wire dia, pounds/inch
tension and a picture,(to identify the type of end hook). Any
information would be appreciated. With this, I can order the parts from
the McMaster Carr catalog.
I am also fabricating a hydraulic cylender for the tail wheel retract
mechinism and will publish plans as soon as it is completed.
Is anyone here not a member of the Replica Fighter's Association? It
is a group that is dedicated to the building and flying of replica
military aircraft. They have a fairly active website and builder's
group at
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Tore S. Bristol" <tf51(at)c2i.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Psru plumbing, flange, etc. |
Ed ,
as usual no tracking no , so you have not shipped anything , but we know
you by now .
This the 6th time you claim to hve shipped the flange since Oct 1st when
it again was supposed to be ready .
And that is 4 years after you promised the 8 bolt flange !
But I=B4m fed up with your lies , and the papers to the Ventura DA=B4s
office goes out tomorrow morning around
9 o=B4clock your time , as we are 3 hours ahead of you .
Tore S Bristol
----- Original Message -----
From: Ed Hullinger
To: Tore S. Bristol
Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2008 7:30 PM
Subject: Psru plumbing, flange, etc.
Tore,
I'm sending your remaining PSRU parts today with a check for $2200.00.
I hope that we can get back on the same page now and get you up and
flying very soon.
Ed
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Tore S. Bristol" <tf51(at)c2i.net> |
Ed,
parts arrived and looks GOOD , I guess the only thing missing now is the
retaining nut and hookup instructions for the oil system .
So finally after Four and a half years !
Why didn=B4t you do this four years ago?
That would have saved me a lot of grief , and you a lot of negative pr !
Regards
Tore
Ps; what is ARP ?
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Two New Lists Added to the Matronics Lineup! |
Dear Listers,
I've added two new Email Lists to the Matronics List and Forum lineup today. These
include the Rans-List and RV12-List. Please surf over to the Matronics List
Subscription page and sign up for these new Lists if they are of interest
to you:
http://www.matronics.com/subscribe
Full support on the Forums, List Browse, Archives, etc. is available.
Rans-List:
http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Rans-List
RV12-List
http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV12-List
Best regards,
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
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| From: | Bristolsabre(at)aol.com |
| Subject: | Re: missing parts |
Ed ,
2 weeks ago you said you would " get it to you this week " .
Does " this week " mean the usual 4,5 years again ?
Tore
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| From: | Bristolsabre(at)aol.com |
FEW Mustang builders :
Over the last 2 to 3 years a lot of you have contacted me , so I know there
are a lot of you out there who have paid Ed Hullinger money without getting any
of the stuff you paid for .
I have seen sums from 6500 to 20 000 $ !!
Have any of you been able to get anything , or get your money back from Ed ?
I know some have taken him to court and won , but has he paid you back ?
I guess I am one of the few lucky ones , as I got my PSRU and oiling system (
minus some parts ) after only 5 1/2 years .
But I am still waiting for hookup instructions for the oiling system and
confirmation that the PSRU has been tested ( which acc. to Ed was a must )
This does not cost him anything , but he still will not do it !
So I can only draw the conclusion that he has no intention to follow up on
his promises .
For those who might not know , you can report him to the Ventura county DAs
office for fraud .
Regards
Tore S Bristol
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| From: | HMS23TURBO(at)aol.com |
| Subject: | Re: Official FEWMustang-List Usage Guidelines |
Matt,
I am the owner of Legendary Aircraft (formerly FEW). I don't know how this
list was set up and by who but it wasn't authorized by me, we don't use it, and
I wish to have it removed.
Thank you.
Ed Hullinger
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| From: | Bristolsabre(at)aol.com |
| Subject: | Re: Official FEWMustang-List Usage Guidelines |
Ed ,
Of course it was not set up by you , or for you .
It was set up for the the builders , and I do not think you have a right to
have it removed .
I understand you want it removed , that would make it harder for us builders
to keep in touch and keep track of you !
I strongly suggest we keep on using it .
Regards
Tore S Bristol
Ps ,
Ed , feel free to call me , I have given you my adress and phone no.
countless times .
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Four New Email Lists At Matronics!! |
Dear Listers,
I have added four new Lists to the Matronics line up today. These include the
following categories:
Citabria-List Citabria, Decathlon, Scout, and Champ
Zenith601-List Zenair Zodiac CH 601
Zenith640-List Zenair Zodiac CH 640
Zenith701801-List Zenair STOL CH 701 and CH 801
All services are enabled and now available including Search, Browse, Digest, Archives,
Forums, Chat, etc., etc. etc...:
Citabria:
http://www.matronics.com/navigator?citabria-list
Zenith601:
http://www.matronics.com/navigator?zenith601-list
Zenith640:
http://www.matronics.com/navigator?zenith640-list
Zenith701801:
http://www.matronics.com/navigator?zenith701801-list
To subscribe, go to the Matronics Email List Subscription Form:
http://www.matronics.com/subscribe
To check the new Lists out on the Matronics Forum go here:
http://forums.matronics.com
Enjoy the new Lists!! Don't forget me during the Fund Raiser! :-)
Best regards,
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Bristolsabre(at)aol.com |
| Subject: | Legendary Aircraft/ Ed Hullinger |
Hello Gordon Brooker .
My computor " ate " your e-mail , and I do not have your adress here in
Florida .
If you could send it again I will get back to you as soon as I get to Europe .
I belive I have all adresses to the people who are suing Ed Hullinger in my
computor there .
If he owes you 20 000 you should join them !
Are there anybody out there who have heard from him lately ?
Last I heard was that my remaining parts were "on the way" on May 27 th .
I did not know it takes more than 6 weeks from CA to FL !
Since then he will not reply to my mails , so I will contact the Ventura DAs
office as I was recomended to do .
Next month we will pass 6 years since he told me my PSRU was ready !
Regards
Tore S Bristol
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| From: | "Cliff Hoyle" <c.hoyle(at)comcast.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Legendary Aircraft/ Ed Hullinger |
Tore,
I and a few others would be interested in knowing who is on that list
also. Would you please forward it to me when you have a chance?
Thanks, Cliff Hoyle
----- Original Message -----
From: Bristolsabre(at)aol.com
To: FEWMustang-List-Digest(at)matronics.com
Sent: Sunday, July 06, 2008 2:07 PM
Subject: FEWMustang-List: Legendary Aircraft/ Ed Hullinger
Hello Gordon Brooker .
My computor " ate " your e-mail , and I do not have your adress here
in Florida .
If you could send it again I will get back to you as soon as I get to
Europe .
I belive I have all adresses to the people who are suing Ed Hullinger
in my computor there .
If he owes you 20 000 you should join them !
Are there anybody out there who have heard from him lately ?
Last I heard was that my remaining parts were "on the way" on May 27
th .
I did not know it takes more than 6 weeks from CA to FL !
Since then he will not reply to my mails , so I will contact the
Ventura DAs office as I was recomended to do .
Next month we will pass 6 years since he told me my PSRU was ready !
Regards
Tore S Bristol
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| From: | "Cliff Hoyle" <c.hoyle(at)comcast.net> |
| Subject: | Legendary Aircraft/Ed Hulinger |
Just to say that good things do happen.
I recently received my new motor mount and submounts from Ed Hullinger
for my FEW Mustang and was very pleased with the quality of workmanship.
The mount fit my plane without modification and even more importantly
supported the engine with exactly 1 3/4 degrees down thrust without the
need for shims. Also it fits nicely inside the cowling. It could not
have been better and is much "beefier" than the original FEW supplied
mount. Thanks, Ed.
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Re: Legendary Aircraft/Ed Hulinger |
Ed does excellent work!
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| From: | "Tore S. Bristol" <tf51(at)c2i.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Legendary Aircraft/Ed Hulinger |
Yes he does , but its the delays that bothers me .
There are several items I would like to buy from him , but I am still
waiting for parts I paid when Ed said they were ready 5 years ago !
And he does not even reply to E-mails .
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From: LRE2(at)aol.com
To: fewmustang-list(at)matronics.com
Sent: Friday, July 25, 2008 7:18 AM
Subject: Re: FEWMustang-List: Legendary Aircraft/Ed Hulinger
Ed does excellent work!
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| From: | dralle(at)matronics.com |
| Subject: | Matronics Email List Fund Raiser During November! |
Dear Listers,
Each November I hold a PBS-like fund raiser to support the continued operation
and upgrade of the List services at Matronics. It's through soley through the
Contributions of List members that these Matronics Lists are possible.
You have probably noticed that there are no banner ads or pop-up windows on any of the Matronics Lists or related web sites such as the Forums site ( http://forums.matronics.com ), Wiki site ( http://wiki.matronics.com ), or other related pages such as the List Search Engine ( http://www.matronics.com/search ), List Browse ( http://www.matronics.com/listbrowse ), etc. This is because I believe in a List experience that is completely about the sport we all enjoy - namely Airplanes and not about annoying advertisments.
During the month of November I will be sending out List messages every few days
reminding everyone that the Fund Raiser is underway. I ask for your patience
and understanding during the Fund Raiser and throughout these regular messages.
The Fund Raiser is only financial support mechanism I have to pay all of the
bills associated with running these lists. Your personal Contribution counts.
Once again, this year I've got a terrific line up of free gifts to go along with
the various Contribution levels. Most all of these gifts have been provided
by some of the vary members and vendors that you'll find on Matronics Lists and
have been either donated or provided at substantially discounted rates.
This year, these generous people include Bob Nuckolls of the AeroElectric Connection (http://www.aeroelectric.com/), Andy Gold of the Builder's Bookstore (http://www.buildersbooks.com/), and Jon Croke of HomebuiltHELP (http://www.homebuilthelp.com/).
These are extremely generous guys and I encourage you to visit their respective
web sites. Each one offers a unique and very useful aviation-related product
line. I would like publicly to thank Bob, Andy, and Jon for their generous support
of the Lists again this year!!
You can make your List Contribution using any one of three secure methods this
year including using a credit card, PayPal, or by personal check. All three methods
afford you the opportunity to select one of this year's free gifts with
a qualifying Contribution amount!!
To make your Contribution, please visit the secure site below:
https://www.matronics.com/contribution
I would like to thank everyone in advance for their generous financial AND moral
support over the years. I know it sounds a little cliche, but you guys really
do feel like family.
Thank you for your support!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Contribution Site URL Clarification |
Dear Listers,
In my List Fund Raiser kickoff email last night, I mistyped the URL for the *initial*
Contribution web site and couple of people reported receiving SSL certificate
errors. The actual payment entry pages where were correct, however, so
there were no certificate issues that impacted payment data. I'm sorry for the
confusion.
Please use the following URL to start your List Contribution:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Thank you for your support!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Please Make a Contribution to Support Your Lists... |
Dear Listers,
Just a reminder that November is the Annual List Fund Raiser. Please make a Contribution
today to support the continued operation and upgrade of
these great List services!! Pick up a really nice free gift with your qualifying
Contribution too!
The Contribution Site is fast and easy:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Thank you!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | List Fund Raiser |
A couple of years ago I implemented an automatic "squelch button" of sorts for
the Fund Raiser messages. Here's how it works... As soon as a List member makes
a
Contribution through the Matronics Fund Raiser web site, he or she will instantly
cease to receive these Fund Raiser messages for the rest of the month! Its
just that simple. Don't you wish PBS worked that way! :-)
I really do appreciate each and every one of your individual Contributions to support
the Lists. It is your support that enables me to upgrade the hardware
and
software that are required to run a List Site like this. It also goes to pay for
the commercial-grade Internet connection and to pay the huge electric bill
to
keep the computer gear running and the air conditioner powered on. I run all of
the Matronics Email List and Forums sites here locally which allows me to
control and monitor every aspect of the system for the utmost in reliably and performance.
Your personal Contribution matters because, when combined with other Listers such
as yourself, it pays the bills to keep this site up and running. I accept
exactly ZERO advertising dollars for the Matronics Lists sites. I can't stand
the pop-up ads and all other commercials that are so prevalent on the Internet
these days and I particularly don't want to have it on my Email List sites.
If you appreciate the ad-free, grass-roots, down-home feel of the Matronics Email
Lists, please make a Contribution to keep it that way!!
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Thank you!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
[Note that there are certain circumstances where you might still see a Contribution
related message. For example, if someone replies to one of the messages,
when using the List Browse feature, or when accessing List message via the Forum.
The system keys on the given email address and since most of these are
anonymous public access methods, there is no simple way to filter them.]
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
Dear Listers,
Just a quick reminder that November is the annual List Fund Raiser. The Matronics
Lists are 100% member supported and all of the operational costs are provided
for my your Contributions during this time of the year.
Your personal Contribution makes a difference and keeps all of the Matronics Email
Lists and Forums completely ad-free.
Please make your Contribution today to keep these services up and running!
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Thank you in advance!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List and Forum Administrator
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Fund Raiser List of Contributors - Please Make A Contribution |
Today!
Each year at the end of the List Fund Raiser, I post a message acknowledging everyone
that so generously made a Contribution to support the Lists. Its sort of
my way of publicly thanking everyone that took a minute to show their appreciation
for the Lists.
Won't you take a moment and assure that your name is on that List of Contributors
(LOC)? As a number of members have pointed out over the years, the List seems
at least - if not a whole lot more - valuable as a building/flying/recreating/entertainment
tool as your typical magazine subscription!
Please take minute and assure that your name is on this year's LOC! Show others
that you appreciate the Lists. Making a Contribution to support the Lists is
fast and easy using your Credit card or Paypal on the Secure Web Site:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
or by dropping a personal check in the mail to:
Matt Dralle / Matronics
PO Box 347
Livermore CA 94551-0347
I would like to thank everyone that has so generously made a Contribution thus
far in this year's List Fund Raiser! Remember that its YOUR support that keeps
these Lists going and improving! Don't forget to include a little comment about
how the Lists have helped you!
Best regards,
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Please Make A Contribution To Support Your Lists |
Dear Listers,
There is no advertising income to support the Matronics Email Lists and Forums.
The operation is supported 100% by your personal Contributions during the November
Fund Raiser.
Please make your Contribution today to support the continued operation and upgrade
of these services. You can pick up a really nice gift for making your Contribution
too!
You may use a Credit Card or Paypal at the Matronics Contribution Site here:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
or, you can send a personal check to the following address:
Matronics / Matt Dralle
PO Box 347
Livermore, CA 94551-0347
Thank you in advance for your generous support!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List and Forum Administrator
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Fund Raiser Lagging Last Year By Over 30%... |
As of the 13th, the Fund Raiser is currently about 30% behind last year in terms
of the number of Contributions. Yet, oddly the number of messages posted per
day is up by 10 to 20% on the average. It costs real money to run these Lists
and they are supported 100% though your Contributions during the Fund Raiser.
Won't you please take a minute right now to make your Contribution to keep
these Lists up and running?
Contribution Page:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Thank you for your support!
Matt Dralle
Email List Admin.
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | What's My Contribution Used For? |
Dear Listers,
Some have asked, "What's my Contribution used for?" and that's a good question.
Here are just a few examples of what your direct List support enables. It provides
for the very expensive, commercial-grade T1 Internet connection used on
the List insuring maximum performance and minimal contention when accessing
List services. It pays for the regular system hardware and software upgrades
enabling the highest performance possible for services such as the Archive Search
Engine, List Browser, and Forums. It pays for 19+ years worth of online archive
data available for instant random search and access. And, it offsets the
many hours spent writing, developing, and maintaining the custom applications
that power this List Service such as the List Browse, Search Engine, Forums,
Wiki and PhotoShare.
But most importantly, your List Contribution enables a forum where you and your
peers can communicate freely in an environment that is free from moderation,
censorship, advertising, commercialism, SPAM, and computer viruses. How many
places on the Internet can you make all those statements these days?
It is YOUR CONTRIBUTION that directly enables these many aspects of these valuable
List services. Please support it today with your List Contribution. Its
one of the best investments you can make in your Sport...
List Contribution Web Site:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Thank you for your support!
Matt Dralle
Email List Administrator
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | What Members Are Saying... |
Dear Listers,
November is the Annual Matronics List Fund Raiser. The Lists are supported solely
through your generous Contributions during this time. Please make your Contribution
today and pick up a really nice free gift at this same time:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Listers have been including some really nice comments regarding what the Lists
mean to them along with their Contributions this year. I've included a few of
them below. Please read them over and see if some perhaps echo your feelings
as well.
Thank you for your support this year!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List and Forum Administrator
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Best bargain in the entire industry!!
-Owen B
Every year your lists are better, sure #1 in e-mail list in the world.
-Gary G
Thank you for an awesome site!
-Ashley M
Your lists are important to me and well worth paying for.
-Calvin A
Thank you for providing such and informative and ad free environment
to learn by.
-Myron H
As always, a valuable and extremely useful resource.
Stephen T
As always, a great service.
-Reade G
Very much appreciate this site and the communications it has
enabled between builders.
-Larry M
This service is worth every penny.
-Robert S
Great site! Thanks a ton for its functionality!
-Peter B
The RV-10 list feels like my community.
-Dave S
The lists are fantastic, a great source!
-Jimmy Y
I've learned a lot from the List.
-Gabriel F
A wonderful resource.
-Gerald G
Well done.
-Richard N
Years of good service.
-William M
Valuable service.
-Keith H
The site is quite helpful.
-Jon M
Very interesting List that I read form the beginning.
-Alain L
A well managed site.
-Carl B
Great service.
-Svein Kare J
Still the most useful program on the computer.
-Fergus K
Great contribution to my project!
-Robert K
Thanks for keeping a great list.
-Dt G
The List continues to provide excellent information.
-Tony C
This is a wonderful resource that has easily saved me a bunch on
my build-time.
-Ralph C
Thank you for providing a great service. The Zenith builder's community
would be in sad shape without the Zenith-List's.
-Terrence P
I really do get pleasure out of reading the List every day.
-Bill V
Great source of information.
-Arthur V
Thanks for a great service. Very enjoyable.
-Louis B
You know we all could not do without your support!!
-James S
Great resource!
-Douglas D
Thanks for the great service.
-John B
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Behind By 21% - Advertising May Be Needed...? |
Dear Listers,
The percentage of people making a Contribution to support the Lists this year is
currently lagging behind last year by approximately 21%! I'm hoping that everyone
is just waiting until the last minute to show their support... ;-)
Please remember that it is solely your direct Contributions that keep these Lists
up and running and most importantly - AD FREE! If the members don't want to
support the Lists directly, then I will likely have to start adding advertisements
to offset the costs of running the Lists. But I *really* don't want to
have to start doing that. I really like the non-commercial atmosphere here and
I think that a lot of the members appreciate that too.
Please take a moment to make a Contribution today in support of the continued ad-free
operation of all these Lists:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
I want to send out a word of appreciation to all of the members that have already
made their generous Contribution to support the Lists! Thank you!
Matt Dralle
Email List Administrator
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
Dear Listers,
Each year at the end of the List Fund Raiser, I post a message acknowledging everyone
that so generously made a Contribution to support the Lists. Its sort
of my way of publicly thanking everyone that took a minute to show their appreciation
for the Lists.
Won't you take a moment and assure that your name is on that List of Contributors
(LOC)? As a number of members have pointed out over the years, the List seems
at least - if not a whole lot more - valuable as a building/flying/recreating/entertainment
tool as your typical magazine subscription!
Please take minute and assure that your name is on this year's LOC! Show others
that you appreciate the Lists. Making a Contribution to support the Lists is
fast and easy using your Credit card or Paypal on the Secure Web Site:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
or by popping a personal check in the mail to:
Matronics Email Lists
c/o Matt Dralle
PO Box 347
Livermore CA 94551-0347
I would like to thank everyone that has so generously made a Contribution thus
far in this year's List Fund Raiser! Remember that its YOUR support that keeps
these Lists going and improving! Don't forget to include a little comment about
how the Lists have helped you!
Best regards,
Matt Dralle
Email List Administrator
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Value of the List... |
If you look forward to checking your List email everyday (and a lot of you have
written to say that you do!), then you're probably getting at least $20 or $30
worth of Entertainment from the Lists each year. You'd pay twice that for a
subscription to some lame magazine or even just a single dinner out. Isn't the
List worth at least that much to you?
Won't you please take a minute to make your Contribution today and support the
Lists?
Contribution Page:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Again, I want to say THANK YOU to everyone that has made a Contribution thus far
during this year's List Fund Raiser!! These Lists are made possible exclusively
through YOUR generosity!!
Thank you for your support!
Matt Dralle
Email List Admin.
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Just A Few More Days... |
Dear Listers,
There are just a few more days left in this year's List Fund Raiser. There are
some great gifts available when you make a qualifying Contribution and there's
plenty still available. Don't forget that its *your* Contribution that keeps
the computers running, the electricity turned on, and the computer room AC cooling!
If you look forward to reading your List email each day, won't you please take
a minute right now to make your personal Contribution?
Credit Card or Paypal:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Personal Check:
Matronics / Matt Dralle
PO Box 347
Livermore, CA 94550
Thank you for your support!
Matt Dralle
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Just 3 Days Left - Please Make Your List Contribution |
Today!
There are only three days left until the end of this year's List Fund Raiser.
Please take a minute to show your support as so many others have this year and
make sure YOUR name is on the forthcoming List of Contributors 2008!
Its quick and easy using the secure web site with a credit card or PayPal:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
or by sending your personal check to:
Matronics Lists c/o Matt Dralle
PO Box 347
Livermore, CA 94551-0347
(Please write your email address on the check!)
Thank you in advance for your support of these List services!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email and Forum Administrator
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | What Listers Have Been Saying |
Wow! Many of the members making a List Support Contribution this year have been
using the Comments field to leave a personal message about the Lists. Thank
you! I have included a number of them below. Please read over a few and see
if you perhaps can echo some of the same sentiments regarding the value of the
Lists to you...
There is only a couple more days left for this year's List Fund Raiser and we're
still way behind previous years. If you've been waiting until the last minute
to show your support, Now is the Time! Please make your Contribution and pick
up a great gift at the same time!
By Credit Card or Paypal:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
or By Personal Check:
Matronics / Matt Dralle
PO Box 347
Livermore, CA 94550-7227
Thank you in advance!!
Matt Dralle
Email List and Forums Administrator
Here is some of the great feedback members have been including along with their
personal Contributions this year...
Over the years, the info I have received from the RV-List has
saved me thousands of dollars, and dozens of hours of time by
helping me avoid bad purchases, pointing me at vendors with
low prices and excellent support, and providing solutions to
the typical head scratchers that you run into.
Kevin H
Valuable service. Best List(s) on the Internet!
George A
Please accept this token not as an indicator of what
this list has been worth to me this past year.
Lew G
Great information and entertainment.
Tim V
Thanks again for another great year of service. This
project would be beyond me if it were not for the list.
Moreover, the friendships I have found are worth their
weight in GOLD!
Robert B
Great support you provide to all the subscribers!
Freddie H
Read it every day.
PF B
Thanks for your excellent management of the Matronics
Lists! Your services are head and shoulders above the
rest.
James M
Without the "List", there would be no Kolb "community".
Bill T
Thanks, Matt, for a great service! I've been monitoring
and using the lists since 1999.
Richard D
Thanks for such a terrific site and for all the work and
effort you put into it.
John R
A great service year after year.
John D
..another year of fantastic service.
Jerry B
This list is a great resource.
Arden A
Great list.
James M
Lists were a great help while building HRII N561FS.
John S
Great resources for both the beginner and experienced.
George R
Good service.
Gary G
The List is an invaluable resource!
William C
AeroElectric list is a great source of info and learning!
Janice J
Thank you, Matt for being there for us making it all happen
on the List for so many years - Great JOB!
Sam S
Thank you for providing a great venue. You definitely hit
the nail on the head with your solicitation asking if
readers look forward to receiving the email digests. I
certainly do and when I move from a dreamer to a builder, I
expect the anticipation will only increase.
Joe S
Thanks for a Perfect working list.
Hans-Peter R
Great List
Bryan K
Such a great selection of valuable forums!
David G
Nice job!
Walt E
Good resource...
Robert P
Thank you for another great year!
Scott S
I could not do this without you...
Robert D
I believe I've been a list member for over a decade
now. Thanks for the service!
Tim L
Great List
Hendrik W
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Last "Official" Day Of The List Fund Raiser! |
Dear Listers,
Its November 30th and that means three things:..
1) Today I am now officially 45 years old...
2) It marks that last "official" day of this year's List Fund Raiser!
3) Its the last day I will be bugging everyone for a whole year!
If you use the Lists and enjoy the content and the no-advertising, no-spam, and
no-censorship way in which they're run, please make a Contribution today to support
their continued operation and upkeep. Your $20 or $30 goes a long way
to keep the List bills paid.
I will be posting the List of Contributors next week so make sure your name is
on it!
Thank you to everyone that has made a Contribution so far this year! It is greatly
appreciated.
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Best regards,
Matt Dralle
Email List and Forum Administrator
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | List of Contributors 2008 |
Dear Listers,
This year's Fund Raiser has drawn to a close and I want to thank everyone that
so generously made a contribution this year in support of the Matronics Email
List and Forum operation. Your generosity keeps the wheels on this cart and I
truly appreciate the many kind words of encouragement and financial reimbursement.
If you haven't yet made a Contribution in support of this year's Fund Raiser, please
feel free to do so. The great List Fund Raiser gifts will be available
on the Contribution site for a little while longer, so hurry and make your Contribution
today and still get your great gift! Once again, the URL for the Contribution
web site is:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
or by personal check to:
Matronics / Matt Dralle
PO Box 347
Livermore CA 94551-0347
I would like to thank Andy Gold of the Builder's Bookstore ( http://www.buildersbooks.com ), Jon Croke of HomebuiltHELP ( http://www.homebuilthelp.com ) and Bob Nuckolls of AeroElectric ( http://www.aeroelectric.com ) for their extremely generous support during this year's Fund Raiser through the contribution of discounted merchandise. These are great guys that support the aviation industry and I encourage each and every Lister to have a look at their products. Thank you Andy, Jon and Bob!! Your support is very much appreciated!
And finally, below you will find a web link to the 2008 List of Contributors current
as of 12/7/08! Have a look at this list of names as *these* are the people
that make all of these List services possible! I can't thank each of you
enough for your support and great feedback during this year's Fund Raiser!
THANK YOU!
http://www.matronics.com/loc/2008.html
I will be shipping out all of the gifts around the end of December. In most cases,
gifts will be shipped via US Postal Service.
Once again, thank you for making this year's List Fund Raiser successful!
Best regards,
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
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| From: | Bristolsabre(at)aol.com |
| Subject: | Fwd: PSRU plumbing |
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| From: | Bristolsabre(at)aol.com |
| Subject: | Fwd: PSRU plumbing |
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| From: | Bristolsabre(at)aol.com |
| Subject: | PSRU Plumbing and locknut . |
Ed ,
as you may , or may not remember , the rest of my parts " were on the way "
according to you on May 27 of 2008 . That is more than 9 months ago , and
surprise , nothing has arrived yet !
And of course you do not respond to E mails or phonecalls .
I understand that even more people ( in addition to those who already did )
are in the prosess of taking legal action against you , and there seems to be
quite a few judging by the number who have contacted me .
I am going to Vegas later this month , so I plan to drop by your place to
pick up what I paid for , or check in with the Ventura DAs office if I do not get
it . What would be a good day for you ?
What is it - 6 years since I paid , it is so long ago I have to check .
Just wondering - did anybody get what they paid for at all ?
Posting this here as I have tried your adress several times with no result .
Tore S Bristol
**************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy
steps!
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| From: | Bristolsabre(at)aol.com |
You can send me the 8 bolt prop flange lock nut , and the missing parts for
the PSRU oiling system . You said they were sent on May 28th 2008 , so just
send them again .
And yes , I still have the same Florida adress and phone . 408 SW Airpark
Glen
Lake City FL 32025-1617
And by the way , I never called you any names ! But I will let that be .
You did not let me know what would be a good time to come by your hangar ?
Tore S Bristol
**************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy
steps!
%3D62%26bcd%3DMarchfooterNO62)
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| From: | Bristolsabre(at)aol.com |
| Subject: | My missing parts |
Ed , as usual you do not reply . I am ready to go to Vegas for a Fighter
Pilots reunion , and after that I am picking up a Z4 for my wife , so i will drive
out to your place . If you are not there , I will go on to the Ventura DAs
office and file a complaint against you .
You have had nearly 6 years to be an honest guy , and give me what I paid for
!
I simply do not belive in you at all , but I will give you one last chance .
You can either mail me at this adress by tomorrow afternoon , or call me on
386 758 2028 or 386 292 6415 .
And that is final .
Tore S Bristol
**************Check all of your email inboxes from anywhere on the web. Try
the new Email Toolbar now!
(http://toolbar.aol.com/mail/download.html?ncid=txtlnkusdown00000027)
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| From: | Bristolsabre(at)aol.com |
| Subject: | My missing parts |
As there is still no reply from you since you told me you would send what is
still missing , or when would be a good time to come by your hangar , I can
only assume you are not keeping your word . But that is what I expected , so no
surprise there .
I am leaving for Vegas now , and will join the others through the Ventura DAs
office .
Tore S Bristol .
**************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy
steps!
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| From: | Darren Henley <uh-1driver(at)earthlink.net> |
| Subject: | FEW Mustang Builders Group Started |
Hello all.
I just started a FEW Mustang Builders forum at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FEWbuilders/
It has more robust capabilities than this site with file, photos, email and instant
messaging. Also it Will be more accessable than this site. I will continue
to participate in this site and post information as it becomes available.
Darren Henley
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| From: | Bristolsabre(at)aol.com |
| Subject: | Re: FEW Mustang Builders Group Started |
Hello Darren!
Good idea!
Are you still in Afgahnistan?
I am back in FL for 5 weeks, then I go back to Norway to build on the
Mustang.
Regards
Tore S Bristol
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | PLEASE READ - Matronics Email List Fund Raiser During |
November!
Dear Listers,
Each November I hold a PBS-like fund raiser to support the continued operation and upgrade of the List services at Matronics. It's solely through the Contributions of List members that these Matronics Lists are possible. There is NO advertising to support the Lists. You might have noticed the conspicuous lack of flashing banners and annoying pop-ups on the Matronics Email List email messages and web site pages such as the Matronics List Forums ( http://forums.matronics.com ), the List Wiki ( http://wiki.matronics.com), or other related pages such as the List Search Engine ( http://www.matronics.com/search ), the List Browser ( http://www.matronics.com/listbrowse ), etc. This is because I believe in a List experience that is completely about the sport we all enjoy - namely Airplanes and not about annoying advertisements.
During the month of November I will be sending out List messages every couple of
days reminding everyone that the Fund Raiser is underway. I ask for your patience
and understanding during the Fund Raiser and throughout these regular messages.
The Fund Raiser is only financial support mechanism I have to pay all
of the bills associated with running these lists. Your personal Contribution
counts!
Once again, this year I've got a terrific line up of free gifts to go along with
the various Contribution levels. Most all of these gifts have been provided
by some of the vary members and vendors that you'll find on Matronics Lists and
have been either donated or provided at substantially discounted rates.
This year, these generous people include Bob Nuckolls of the AeroElectric Connection (http://www.aeroelectric.com/), Andy Gold of the Builder's Bookstore (http://www.buildersbooks.com/), and Jon Croke of HomebuiltHELP (http://www.homebuilthelp.com/).
These are extremely generous guys and I encourage you to visit their respective
web sites. Each one offers a unique and very useful aviation-related product
line. I would like publicly to thank Bob, Andy, and Jon for their generous support
of the Lists again this year!!
You can make your List Contribution using any one of three secure methods this
year including using a credit card, PayPal, or by personal check. All three methods
afford you the opportunity to select one of this year's free gifts with
a qualifying Contribution amount!!
To make your Contribution, please visit the secure site below:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
I would like to thank everyone in advance for their generous financial AND moral
support over the years!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | November List Fund Raiser |
A couple of years ago I implemented an automatic "squelch button" of sorts for
the Fund Raiser messages. Here's how it works... As soon as a List member makes
a Contribution through the Matronics Fund Raiser web site, he or she will
instantly cease to receive these Fund Raiser messages for the rest of the month!
Its just that simple. Don't you wish PBS worked that way! :-)
I really do appreciate each and every one of your individual Contributions to support
the Lists. It is your support that enables me to upgrade the hardware
and software that are required to run a List Site such as this one. It also goes
to pay for the commercial-grade Internet connection and to pay the huge electric
bill to keep the computer gear running and the air conditioner powered
on. I run all of the Matronics Email List and Forums sites here locally which
allows me to control and monitor every aspect of the system for the utmost in
reliably and performance.
Your personal Contribution matters because, when combined with other Listers such
as yourself, it pays the bills to keep this site up and running. I accept
exactly ZERO advertising dollars for the Matronics Lists sites. I can't stand
the pop-up ads and all other commercials that are so prevalent on the Internet
these days and I particularly don't want to have it on my Email List sites.
If you appreciate the ad-free, grass-roots, down-home feel of the Matronics Email
Lists, please make a Contribution to keep it that way!!
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Thank you!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
[Note that there are certain circumstances where you might still see a Contribution
related message. For example, if someone replies to one of the messages,
when using the List Browse feature, or when accessing List message via the Forum.
The system keys on the given email address and since most of these are anonymous
public access methods, there is no simple way to filter them.]
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
Dear Listers,
Just a quick reminder that November is the annual List Fund Raiser. The Matronics
Lists are 100% member supported and all of the operational costs are provided
for my your Contributions during this time of the year.
Your personal Contribution makes a difference and keeps all of the Matronics Email
Lists and Forums completely ad-free.
Please make your Contribution today to keep these services up and running!
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Thank you in advance!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List and Forum Administrator
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Please Make A Contribution To Support Your Lists |
Dear Listers,
There is no advertising income to support the Matronics Email Lists and Forums.
The operation is supported 100% by your personal Contributions during the November
Fund
Raiser.
Please make your Contribution today to support the continued operation and upgrade
of these services. You can pick up a really nice gift for making your Contribution
too!
You may use a Credit Card or Paypal at the Matronics Contribution Site here:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
or, you can send a personal check to the following address:
Matronics / Matt Dralle
PO Box 347
Livermore, CA 94551-0347
Thank you in advance for your generous support!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List and Forum Administrator
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Fund Raiser List of Contributors - Please Make A Contribution |
Today!
Each year at the end of the List Fund Raiser, I post a message acknowledging everyone
that so generously made a Contribution to support the Lists. Its my way
of publicly thanking everyone that took a minute to show their appreciation for
the Lists.
Won't you take a moment and assure that your name is on that List of Contributors
(LOC)? As a number of members have pointed out over the years, the List seems
at least - if not a whole lot more - valuable as a building/flying/recreating/entertainment
tool as your typical magazine subscription!
Please take minute and assure that your name is on this year's LOC! Show others
that you appreciate the Lists. Making a Contribution to support the Lists is
fast and easy using your Credit card or Paypal on the Secure Web Site:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
or by dropping a personal check in the mail to:
Matt Dralle / Matronics
PO Box 347
Livermore CA 94551-0347
I would like to thank everyone that has so generously made a Contribution thus
far in this year's List Fund Raiser! Remember that its YOUR support that keeps
these Lists going and improving! Don't forget to include a little comment about
how the Lists have helped you!
Best regards,
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | List Fund Raiser |
Dear Listers,
Just a reminder that November is the Matronics Email List Fund Raiser month. There
are some very nice incentive gifts to choose from as well!
Please make your Contribution today:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Thank you!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Some Very Nice Comments... |
Dear Listers,
I've been getting some really nice comments from Listers along with their List
Support Contributions. I've shared some of them below. Please read them over
and see what your fellow Listers think of the Lists and Forums.
Please make a Contribution today to support the continued upgrade and operation
of these services.
There are lots of sweet gifts available, so browse the extensive selection and
pickup a nice item along with your qualifying Contribution.
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Thank you in advance for your generous support! It is very much appreciated!
Best regards,
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
----------- What Listers Are Saying About The Lists -----------
Few things in life bring more usefulness than the List. This
is worth every penny!
Stephen T.
I have enjoyed the list for way too many years, but continue
to get closer to flying my project with the help of listers.
C.L.
Thanks for this List. It's been a great source of encouragement
and information.
Arden A.
Great service!
Gerald T.
It's always interesting reading the lists and I've gotten some
good help from the issues and answers there.
Steve T.
Been a member of the List for 12 years. Keep up the good work.
John H.
Great Site!
Harry M.
Great source of information...
Martin H.
Thanks for providing this great service!
Jeff P.
I continue to get and give information through these lists.
Ralph C.
This is a wonderful resource!
Warren H.
This is what inernet was meant for, sharing information and
experience. Michael W.
Thanks for making such a good list!
Fred D.
Thanks for running a great service!
Michael F.
I really appreciate it.
Dan H.
Thanks for the great service.
Michael L.
Thanks for maintaining this great resource.
John C.
Your sites have been a great resourses and an introduction
to many competent aircraft designers and fabricators.
Jon M.
Thanks for all that you do to maintain the Matronics forums
and for the personal help that you have been to me in
answering my questions regarding the use of the forums.
William B.
[The List] helped me get flying, fly off my test hours and
make my systems better. Ralph C.
The Universe is a better place because of you.
Eric J.
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Contributions Down By 21%... |
Dear Listers,
As of today, contributions to the Matronics List Fund Raiser are lagging behind
last year at this time by 21%. I have a fund raiser each year simply to cover
my operating costs for the Lists. I *do not* accept any advertising income
to support the Lists and rely solely on the contributions of members to keep the
expenses paid.
I run all of my own servers and they are housed here locally, and the Internet
connection is a commercial-grade, T1 connection with public address space. I
also maintain a full backup system that does nightly backups of all List-related
data so that in the event of a server crash or worse, all of the Lists and
the many years of List archive data could be restored onto a new server in a matter
of hours.
All of this costs a fair amount of money, not to mention a significant amount of
my personal time as well. I have a Fund Raiser each year to cover these costs
and I ask that members that feel they receive a benefit from my investments,
make a modest contribution each year to support the continued operation and
upgrade of these services.
If you enjoy the Lists, please make a contribution today. I also offer some incentive
gifts for larger contribution levels. At the Contribution Web Wite, you
can use a credit card, Paypal, or personal check to show your support for the
continuation of these services:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Thank you for your support!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
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| From: | "Darren Henley" <uh-1driver(at)earthlink.net> |
| Subject: | Worked on the plane today |
Huzzah!
With the shop projects winding down, I finally got to work on the plane.
The wing construction table, after two moves, had become pretty
rickety, so I had plans to rebuild the table. I had installed an
electric hoist over the wing to raise and lower the wing panel during
the construction. This time, I used it to raise the entire wing off the
table. The saddles had only been marginally done, were improved. I
painted epoxy in the saddle and trowled in some epoxy with micro. I
then lowered the wing back onto the table. This will make the saddles
to be exactly shaped to the curve of the upper wing surface. Tomorrow,
I plan to rework the center box of the wing table.
More to follow.
Darren Henley
FEW P-51D Mustang
Demon Caller
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| From: | "Darren Henley" <uh-1driver(at)earthlink.net> |
| Subject: | Worked on the plane today |
Huzzah!
With the shop projects winding down, I finally got to work on the plane.
The wing construction table, after two moves, had become pretty
rickety, so I had plans to rebuild the table. I had installed an
electric hoist over the wing to raise and lower the wing panel during
the construction. This time, I used it to raise the entire wing off the
table. The saddles had only been marginally done, were improved. I
painted epoxy in the saddle and trowled in some epoxy with micro. I
then lowered the wing back onto the table. This will make the saddles
to be exactly shaped to the curve of the upper wing surface. Tomorrow,
I plan to rework the center box of the wing table.
More to follow.
Darren Henley
FEW P-51D Mustang
Demon Caller
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | What's My Contribution Used For? |
Dear Listers,
Some have asked, "What's my Contribution used for?" and that's a good question.
Here are just a few examples of what your direct List support enables. It provides
for the very expensive, commercial-grade T1 Internet connection used on
the List insuring maximum performance and minimal contention when accessing List
services. It pays for the regular system hardware and software upgrades enabling
the highest performance possible for services such as the Archive Search
Engine, List Browser, and Forums. It pays for narly 20 years (yeah, I really
said *20* years) worth of online archive data available for instant random search
and access. And, it offsets the many hours spent writing, developing, and
maintaining the custom applications that power this List Service such as the List
Browse, Search Engine, Forums, and Wiki.
But most importantly, your List Contribution enables a forum where you and your
peers can communicate freely in an environment that is free from moderation,
censorship, advertising, commercialism, SPAM, and computer viruses. How many places
on the Internet can you make all those statements these days?
It is YOUR CONTRIBUTION that directly enables these many aspects of these valuable
List services. Please support it today with your List Contribution. Its one
of the best investments you can make in your Sport...
List Contribution Web Site:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Thank you for your support!
Matt Dralle
Email List Administrator
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Just A Few Days Left; Still Trailing Last Year... |
Dear Listers,
There are just a few more days left of this year's List Fund Raiser! Response
has been very good, but still well behind last year. If you've been waiting until
the last minute to make your contribution and maybe even pick up a great
gift, now might be good time to show your support!
Please remember that there isn't any sort of commercial advertising on the Lists
and the *only* means of keeping these Lists running is through your Contributions
during this Fund Raiser.
Please make a Contribution today!
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Thank you!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Make Sure You're Listed! List of Contributors Published |
in December!
Dear Listers,
The List of Contributors (LOC) is just around the corner! In December I post a
list of everyone that so generously made a Contribution to support the Lists.
Its my way of publicly thanking everyone that took a minute to show their appreciation
for the Lists.
Won't you take minute and assure that your name is on the upcoming LOC? Tell others
that you appreciate the Lists. Making a Contribution to support the Lists
is fast and easy using your Visa, MasterCard, or Paypal account:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Or, by dropping a personal check in the mail to:
Matronics / Matt Dralle
PO Box 347
Livermore CA 94551-0347
USA
(Please include your email address on the check!)
I would like to thank everyone that has so generously made a Contribution thus
far during this year's List Fund Raiser! Remember that its YOUR support that keeps
these Lists running and improving! Don't forget to include a little comment
about how the Lists have helped you!
Thank you!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Just A Few More Days To Make Your List Contribution... |
There is less than a week left in this year's List Fund Raiser and only a few short
days to grab one of the great Contribution Gifts available this year. Support
is still significantly lagging behind last year at this point but hopefully
it will pick up here towards the end. Please remember that it is solely the
Contributions of List members that keeps the Lists up and running as there
is no commercialism or advertising on the Matronics Lists and Forums.
The List Contribution web site is secure, fast, and easy and you can use a credit
card, Paypal, or a personal check:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
I want to thank everyone that has already made a generous contribution to support
the Lists!
Thank you!
Matt Dralle
Matronics EMail List and Forum Administrator
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | What Are You Thankful For...? |
Dear Listers,
Here in the United States, Thursday is our National day of Thanksgiving. Many
of us will be traveling to be with our families and friends to share in generous
feasts of plenty and giving thanks for many blessings that have been bestowed
upon us.
Many Listers have expressed over the last couple of weeks how thankful they are
for the Email Lists and Forums here on the Matronics servers and for all of the
assistance and comradery they have experienced being a part of the Lists.
One of my favorite comments is when someone writes to me and says something like,
"Its the first thing I do in the morning while I'm having my morning coffee!".
That's a wonderful tribute to the purpose and function of these Lists.
Its always great to hear I'm not the only one that jumps out of bed each morning
to check my List email!!
Won't you take a minute today and show your appreciation for these Lists and for
their continued operation and upgrade?
The List Contribution Site is:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Thank you in advance for your kind consideration,
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | No "Black Friday" For List Fund Raiser... |
Even though the number of List subscriptions and List posts are up significantly
this year compared to last year, support during this year's List Fund Raiser
has been woefully lagging from last year. There are only a couple more days
left in November and the end of the Fund Raiser is quickly approaching.
I have always preferred a non-commercial List experience as many, many members
have also expressed that they do as well. However, if the yearly fund raiser
cannot generate sufficient funds to keep the bills paid on the List service expenses,
I will have to look into some sort of advertising. Please don't let that
happen!
Your personal contribution of $20 or $30 goes a long ways to keeping the operation
a float. The lunch combo at Carl's Jr costs nearly $10 these days. Isn't
the List worth at least as much as a couple of burgers?
Please make sure your name is on this year's List of Contributors published in
December. The Contribution site is secure, quick, and easy:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Thank you in advance for your support!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List and Forum Administrator
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Just Two More Days Left; Fund Raiser Behind By 12%... |
Dear Listers,
This year's List Fund Raiser is still trailing last year by a 12% margin. If you
like the ad-free environment that is the Matronics Email List and Forum experience,
please make a quick Contribution to keep it that way!
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
I've been getting a ton of really nice comments from Contributors regarding the
Lists. Please read over some of them below and see if they don't resonate with
you as well.
Thank you in advance for your generous contribution to support these Lists!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
--------------------------- Member Feedback ----------------------------
ur web site is a real institution of the whole Experimental
Aircraft subculture.
John G
Thanks Matt for the lists. A lot of good info. Great bunch
of list members. Great videos and no SPAM.
Paul C
It has been a valuable tool.
Troy M
..appreciate the site as much as ever.
Larry M
By using various forums I've learned a ton, received great
advice, made friends, and saved money!
Craig W
Since I've finished [my project], I've not had much to do as
far as fabrication of electrical systems. However,
selectively reading various topics is still very valuable
and Bob's insights and new how to's make me a continuous
subscriber.
Larry F
Matronics user groups are the best tool I have for learning
to build my RV-10!
Philip W
There is always useful knowledge to be found on this list,
and I suspect that it has kept quite a few people out of
trouble over the years it has been in operation. Good
entertainment, too.
Graham H
Great web site. I wish I'd known about it while building.
Bob S
I'm happy to provide some support to this list. It is very
helpful.
Vaughn T
Good service to sport aviation!!
Roger B
Awesome Service you provide for us!
Bill R
My [project] is almost finished! However, it wouldn't be
close without the [this] group.
Douwe B
Great list.
Robert S
I'm not a builder yet but learning lots from the list.
Peter M
Some nonsense, some humor, but mostly good information.
Tony C
Thanks for creating and keeping the Lists. They are
entertaining and always informative!
John M
Thanks for this valuable resource to our community.
Barry H
The list is IMHO the greatest resource on the net.
John B
Thanks again for providing another year of your useful
List service.
Jerry B
Great site indeed, every time I get a message I usually
learn something.
Peter B
You are making a huge contribution to the builder fraternity
and in no small way enhancing sport aviation safety.
Richard G
The List is the SINGLE, MOST IMPORTANT resource I have in
building my RV10. I would be lost without out it. And I
have made a bunch of new friends as well!
Les K
The lists are one of the things I really enjoy, so keep
up the good work.
Freddie H
Every year -- the best value for my time and money!
Owen B
This list is a major contribution to safe building!
Donald K
Really enjoy the daily boost it gives me.
Walter S
In the last 18 months I have been privileged to listen &
ask. I have learnt at the feet of the masters...
Stewart G
You set the standard on how Internet forums should be run
and managed.
Larry W
The Universe is a better place because of you.
Eric J
[The List] helped me get flying, fly off my test hours and
make my systems better. I continue to get and give
information through these lists.
Ralph C
..another GREAT year of advice, answers, and inspiration
courtesy of the Lists and your hard work!!!!
Rob B
..the best forum on the Internet!
Robert B
I can't tell you how grateful I am for your list and your
subscribers to keep me up to date and holding the dream.
Ashley M
This page makes it easy to contribute.
Jeffrey P
Thank you for your expertise in creating & running the
much useful lists!
Anthony P
Thanks for providing our advertising free on line community.
George R
Thanks for maintaining the equipment and software to
provide this valuable source of information to us
individuals. Your effort is appreciated by many more people
than you realize.
Ross H
Thanks for a great site. Although the project is complete
and flying I still get a wealth of information from all
the messages.
Marcus C
Only learned about you six months ago...my RV-7A is just
finished, but the list has been helpful. Wish I had
discovered you sooner.
Jack B
This is an invaluable communications media for us
common minded folks to exchange technical and other
information.
George H
..great service that you provide.
David W
..still appreciate your list.
Alain L
[The] Lists are an invaluable resource. I know that it has
helped me enormously in my project.
William B
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | [Please Read] - Last Official Day of List Fund Raiser! |
Dear Listers,
Its November 30th and that means at least two things. For better or worse, its
my 46th birthday! But it also means that its that last official day of the
Matronics Email List Fund Raiser! If you been jones'n over one of the really
nice gifts that are available this year with a qualifying Contribution, then now
is the time to jump on one!!
If you've been meaning to make a Contribution this month but have been putting
it off for some reason, NOW is the time!
I will be posting the List of Contributors in a few days, so you'll probably want
to be known as a person that supported the Lists!
I want to thank everyone that has so generously made a Contribution so far this
year in support of our Lists. It is your generosity that keeps this operation
a float and I don't ever forget it. Hopefully everyone feels the same.
The List Contribution Web Site is fast and easy. Please support our habit by making
your Contribution right now:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Thank you to all in advance!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | 2009 List of Contributors |
Dear Listers,
The 2009 Matronics Email List and Forum Fund Raiser officially ended a couple of
weeks ago and its time that I publish this year's List of Contributors. Its
the people on this list that directly make the Email Lists and Forums possible.
Their generous
contributions keep the servers and Internet connection up and running.
You can still show your support this year and pick up a great gift at the same
time. The Contribution Web Site is fast, easy, and secure:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
I also want to thank Bob, Jon, Andy, and John for their generous support through
the supply of great gifts this year!! These guys have some great products and
I encourage you to visit their respective web sites:
Bob Nucklolls - AeroElectric - www.aeroelectric.com
Jon Croke - HomebuiltHELP - www.homebuilthelp.com
Andy Gold - The Builder's Bookstore - www.buildersbooks.com
John Caldwell - HowToCrimp - www.howtocrimp.com
And finally, I'm proud to present The 2009 Fund Raiser List of Contributors:
http://www.matronics.com/loc/2009.html
Thanks again to everyone that made a Contribution this year!!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List and Forum Administrator
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | PLEASE READ - List Fund Raiser Kickoff! |
Dear Listers,
Each November I hold a PBS-like fund raiser to support the continued operation
and upgrade of the List services at Matronics. It's solely through the Contributions
of List members that these Matronics Lists are possible. There is NO
advertising to support the Lists. You might have noticed the conspicuous lack
of flashing banners and annoying pop-ups on the Matronics Email List email messages
and web site pages including:
* Matronics List Forums http://forums.matronics.com
* Matronics List List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com
* Matronics List Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search
* Matronics List Browser http://www.matronics.com/listbrowse
You don't find advertising on any of these pages because I believe in a List experience
that is completely about the sport we all enjoy - namely Airplanes and
not about annoying advertisements.
During the month of November I will be sending out List messages every couple of
days reminding everyone that the Fund Raiser is underway. I ask for your patience
and understanding during the Fund Raiser and throughout these regular messages.
The Fund Raiser is only financial support mechanism I have to pay all
of the bills associated with running these Lists. Your personal Contribution
counts!
Once again, this year I've got a terrific line up of free gifts to go along with
the various Contribution levels. Most all of these gifts have been provided
by some of the vary members and vendors that you'll find on Matronics Lists and
have been either donated or provided at substantially discounted rates.
This year, these generous people include:
* Bob Nuckolls of the AeroElectric Connection http://www.aeroelectric.com
* Andy Gold of the Builder's Bookstore http://www.buildersbooks.com
* Jon Croke of HomebuiltHELP http://www.homebuilthelp.com
These are extremely generous guys and I encourage you to visit their respective
web sites. Each one offers a unique and very useful aviation-related product
line. I would like publicly to thank Bob, Andy, and Jon for their generous support
of the Lists again this year!!
You can make your List Contribution using any one of three secure methods including
using a credit card, PayPal, or by personal check. All three methods afford
you the opportunity to select one of this year's free gifts with a qualifying
Contribution amount!!
To make your Contribution, please visit the secure site below:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
I would like to thank everyone in advance for their generous financial AND moral
support over the years!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
RV-8 Builder and Flyer
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | November List Fund Raiser |
There is an automatic "squelch button" of sorts for the Fund Raiser messages.
Here's how it works... As soon as a List member makes a Contribution through
the Matronics Fund Raiser web site, they will instantly cease to receive these
Fund Raiser messages for the rest of the month! Its just that simple.
I really do appreciate each and every one of your individual Contributions to support
the Lists. It is your support that enables me to upgrade the hardware
and software that are required to run a List Site such as this one. It also goes
to pay for the commercial-grade Internet connection and to pay the huge electric
bill to keep the computer gear running and the air conditioner powered
on. I run all of the Matronics Email List and Forums sites here locally which
allows me to control and monitor every aspect of the system for the utmost in
reliably and performance.
Your personal Contribution matters because, when combined with other Listers such
as yourself, it pays the bills to keep this site up and running. I accept
exactly ZERO advertising dollars for the Matronics Lists sites. I can't stand
the pop-up ads and all other commercials that are so prevalent on the Internet
these days and I particularly don't want to have it on my Email List sites.
If you appreciate the ad-free, grass-roots, down-home feel of the Matronics Email
Lists, please make a Contribution to keep it that way!!
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Thank you!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
[Note that there are certain circumstances where you might still see a Contribution
related message. For example, if someone replies to one of the messages,
when using the List Browse feature, or when accessing List message via the Forum.
The system keys on the given email address and since most of these are anonymous
public access methods, there is no simple way to filter them.]
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
Dear Listers,
A quick reminder that November is the annual List Fund Raiser. The Matronics Lists
are 100% member supported and all of the operational costs are provided for
my your Contributions during this time of the year.
Your personal Contribution makes a big difference and keeps all of the Matronics
Email Lists and Forums completely ad-free.
Please make your Contribution today to keep these services up and running!
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Thank you in advance!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List and Forum Administrator
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Please Make A Contribution To Support Your Lists |
Dear Listers,
There is no advertising income to support the Matronics Email Lists and Forums.
The operation is supported 100% by your personal Contributions during the November
Fund Raiser.
Please make your Contribution today to support the continued operation and upgrade
of these services. You can pick up a really nice gift for making your Contribution
too!
You may use a Credit Card or Paypal at the Matronics Contribution Site here:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
or, you can send a personal check to the following address:
Matronics / Matt Dralle
581 Jeannie Way
Livermore, CA 94550
Thank you in advance for your generous support!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List and Forum Administrator
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Coming Soon - The List of Contributors - Please Make |
A Contribution Today!
Each year at the end of the List Fund Raiser, I post a message acknowledging everyone
that so generously made a Contribution to support the Lists. Its my way
of publicly thanking everyone that took a minute to show their appreciation
for the Lists.
Please take a moment and assure that your name is on that List of Contributors
(LOC)! As a number of members have pointed out over the years, the List seems
at least as valuable a building / entertainment tool as your typical magazine
subscription!
Assure that your name is on this year's LOC! Show others that you appreciate the
Lists. Making a Contribution to support the Lists is fast and easy using your
Credit card or Paypal on the Secure Web Site:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
or by dropping a personal check in the mail to:
Matt Dralle / Matronics
581 Jeannie Way
Livermore CA 94550
I would like to thank everyone that has so generously made a Contribution thus
far in this year's List Fund Raiser! Remember that its YOUR support that keeps
these Lists going and improving! Don't forget to include a little comment about
how the Lists have helped you!
Best regards,
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Please Support The Lists... |
Dear Listers,
Just a reminder that November is the Matronics Email List Fund Raiser month. There
are some very nice incentive gifts to choose from as well!
Please make your Contribution today at:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
or by dropping a personal check in the mail to:
Matt Dralle / Matronics
581 Jeannie Way
Livermore CA 94550
Thank you!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Please Make A Contribution... |
Dear Listers,
A quick reminder that November is the annual List Fund Raiser. The Matronics Lists
are 100% member supported and all of the operational costs are provided for
my your Contributions during this time of the year.
Your personal Contribution makes a big difference and keeps all of the Matronics
Email Lists and Forums completely ad-free.
Please make your Contribution today to keep these services up and running!
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Thank you in advance!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List and Forum Administrator
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | List Fund Raiser & Some Very Nice Comments... |
Dear Listers,
I've been getting some really nice comments from Listers along with their List
Support Contributions. I've shared some of them below. Please read them over
and see what your fellow Listers think of the Lists and Forums.
Please make a Contribution today to support the continued upgrade and operation
of these services.
There are lots of sweet gifts available, so browse the extensive selection and
pickup a nice item along with your qualifying Contribution.
Contribution Web Site:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Or drop a personal check in the mail to:
Matt Dralle / Matronics
581 Jeannie Way
Livermore CA 94550
Thank you in advance for your generous support! It is very much appreciated!
Best regards,
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
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You are providing a great service. Thanks so very much.
David L
Keep up the good work! A great website - wish I'd found it earlier!
Bob S
Thanks for providing a site for information.
Jim S
Thanks again for providing a great service to our community!
Alex M
Thanks and keep up the good work!
Robert B.
Great forum!
David S
Thanks for providing the Kolb List for the last 12 years.
John H
Long time lurker, it's a great resource...many thanks.
Ian C
Your work and effort are greatly appreciated.
Nicolas L
Thank you very much for keeping the list going!
Svein J
Thank you for your support to the community.
Valin T
I am a long time subscriber and a slow builder because of
work and two moves, but still enjoy the process and your
list.
CL M
Thanks for providing this service. It can't be beat!
Thomas W
I'm no longer a builder or flier but I like to keep in touch with
the List - which is the best organised list I've seen on the Internet.
Gerry C
Matt, you are doing a GREAT service to the community of KOLB
Builders and Flyers.
John B
I've been flying for almost two years and still find these Lists as a great
resource for information.....now I get to answer a question once-in-a-while too.
Ralph C
Thanks for this great service.
Dale E
I couldn't keep on building without the support I get from this List.
Thomas S
This is a great service to all of us.
Michael W
I am no longer actively building, but I really like to keep up with what's
going on, and I especially like to follow Bob Nuckolls - and your RV-8.
Terrence W
I really appreciate your work and consider the lists to be a great value.
Christopher R
Thanks Matt for a great resource!
Geoff T
Many thanks for providing this service. I love it.
William V
One of the best Internet Deals going...
Owen B
Thanks for the great site.
Danny S
A valuable resource.
George A
Thanks for running a great list.
Ted P
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | What's My Contribution Used For? |
Dear Listers,
Some have asked, "What's my Contribution used for?" and that's a good question.
Here are just a few examples of what your direct List support enables. It provides
for the very expensive, commercial-grade T1 Internet connection used on
the List insuring maximum performance and minimal contention when accessing List
services. It pays for the regular system hardware and software upgrades enabling
the highest performance possible for services such as the Archive Search
Engine, List Browser, and Forums. It pays for narly 20 years (yeah, I really
said *20* years) worth of online archive data available for instant random search
and access. And, it offsets the many hours spent writing, developing, and
maintaining the custom applications that power this List Service such as the List
Browse, Search Engine, Forums, and Wiki.
But most importantly, your List Contribution enables a forum where you and your
peers can communicate freely in an environment that is free from moderation,
censorship, advertising, commercialism, SPAM, and computer viruses. How many places
on the Internet can you make all those statements these days? It is YOUR
CONTRIBUTION that directly enables these many aspects of these valuable List
services. Please support it today with your List Contribution. Its one of the
best investments you can make in your Sport...
List Contribution Web Site:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Or drop a personal check in the mail to:
Matt Dralle / Matronics
581 Jeannie Way
Livermore CA 94550
Thank you for your support!
Matt Dralle
Email List Administrator
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Just A Few Days Left; Well Behind Last Year... |
Dear Listers,
There are just a few more days left of this year's List Fund Raiser. Response
has been good so far, but we're well behind last year at this point. If you've
been waiting until the last minute to make your Contribution, now might be good
time to show your support and maybe pick up a nice gift as well!
Please remember that there is no commercial advertising on these Lists and the
*only* means of keeping them running is through your Contributions during this
Fund Raiser. If it weren't for your individual Contributions, these Lists could
easily become economically infeasible and simply cease to exist.
You probably can't even take the family out to dinner for $20 these days, but your
individual Contribution of the same amount makes a huge difference in keeping
the List services alive.
Please make a Contribution today with a Credit Card or Paypal:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Or, drop a personal check in the mail to:
Matt Dralle / Matronics
581 Jeannie Way
Livermore CA 94550
Thank you!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Make Sure You're Listed! List of Contributors Published |
in December!
Dear Listers,
The List of Contributors (LOC) is just around the corner! In December I post a
list of everyone that so generously made a Contribution to support the Lists.
Its my way of publicly thanking everyone that took a minute to show their appreciation
for the Lists.
Won't you take minute and assure that your name is on the upcoming LOC? Tell others
that you appreciate the Lists. Making a Contribution to support the Lists
is fast and easy using your Visa, MasterCard, or Paypal account:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Or, drop a personal check in the mail to:
Matt Dralle / Matronics
581 Jeannie Way
Livermore CA 94550
USA
I would like to thank everyone that has so generously made a Contribution thus
far during this year's List Fund Raiser! Remember that its YOUR support that
keeps these Lists running and improving! Don't forget to include a little comment
about how the Lists have
helped you!
Thank you!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Contributions Down By 17%... |
Dear Listers,
As of today, Contributions to the Matronics List Fund Raiser are lagging behind
last year at this time by roughly 17%. I have a Fund Raiser each year simply
to cover my operating costs for the Lists. I *do not* accept any advertising
income to support the Lists and rely solely on the Contributions of members to
keep the expenses paid.
I run all of my own servers and they are housed here locally, and the Internet
connection is a commercial-grade, T1 connection with public address space. I
also maintain a full backup system that does nightly backups of all List-related
data so that in the event of a server crash or worse, all of the Lists and
the many years of List archive data could be restored onto a new server in a matter
of hours.
All of this costs a fair amount of money, not to mention a significant amount of
my personal time. I have a Fund Raiser each year to cover these costs and I
ask that members that feel they receive a benefit from my investments make a
modest Contribution each year to support the continued operation and upgrade of
these services.
If you enjoy the Lists, please make a Contribution today. I also offer some incentive
gifts for larger Contribution levels. At the Contribution Web Wite, you
can use a credit card, Paypal, or personal check to show your support for the
continuation of these services:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Or, drop a personal check in the mail to:
Matt Dralle / Matronics
581 Jeannie Way
Livermore CA 94550
USA
Thank you for your support!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Just A Few More Days To Make Your List Contribution... |
There is less than a week left in this year's List Fund Raiser and only a few short
days to grab one of the great Contribution Gifts available this year. Support
is still significantly lagging behind last year at this point but hopefully
it will pick up here towards the end. Please remember that it is solely the
Contributions of List members that keeps the Lists up and running as there
is no commercialism or advertising on the Matronics Lists and Forums.
The List Contribution web site is secure, fast, and easy and you can use a credit
card, Paypal, or a personal check:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Or, drop a personal check in the mail to:
Matt Dralle / Matronics
581 Jeannie Way
Livermore CA 94550
USA
I want to thank everyone that has already made a generous contribution to support
the Lists!
Thank you!
Matt Dralle
Matronics EMail List and Forum Administrator
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | What Are You Thankful For...? |
Dear Listers,
Here in the United States, Thursday is our National day of Thanksgiving. Many
of us will be traveling to be with our families and friends to share in generous
feasts of plenty and giving thanks for the many blessings that have been bestowed
upon us.
Many Listers have expressed over the last couple of weeks how thankful they are
for the Email Lists and Forums here on the Matronics servers and for all of the
assistance and comradery they have experienced being a part of the Lists.
One of my favorite comments is when someone writes to me and says something like,
"Its the first thing I do in the morning while I'm having my morning coffee!".
That's a wonderful tribute to the purpose and function of these Lists.
Its always great to hear I'm not the only one that jumps out of bed each morning
to check my List email!!
Won't you take a minute today and show your appreciation for these Lists and for
their continued operation and upgrade?
The List Contribution Site is:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Or, drop a personal check in the mail to:
Matt Dralle / Matronics
581 Jeannie Way
Livermore CA 94550
USA
Thank you in advance for your kind consideration,
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | No "Black Friday" For List Fund Raiser... |
Dear Listers,
Curiously, even though the number of List subscriptions are significantly up this
year, support during this year's Fund Raiser is still substantially behind
last year. There are only a couple more days left in November and the end of
the Fund Raiser is quickly approaching.
I have always preferred a non-commercial List experience as many, many members
have also expressed that they do as well. However, if the yearly fund raiser
cannot generate sufficient funds to keep the bills paid, other sources of income
might be required including some sort of advertising. Please don't let that
happen! Your personal Contribution of $20 or $30 goes a long ways to keeping
the operation a float.
Please make sure your name is on this year's List of Contributors published in
December.
The Contribution site is secure, quick, and easy:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Or, drop a personal check in the mail to:
Matt Dralle / Matronics
581 Jeannie Way
Livermore CA 94550
USA
Thank you in advance for your support!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List and Forum Administrator
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Just Three Days Left & Some Very Nice Comments... |
Dear Listers,
There are just three days left in this year's List Fund Raiser. Won't you take
a monment and make a quick Contribution today to support the continued upgrade
and operation of these Forum services.
I've received some more really nice comments from Listers along with their List
Support Contributions, and I've share a few below.
There are some sweet gifts available this year, so browse the selections and pickup
a nice item along with your qualifying Contribution.
Contribution Web Site:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Or drop a personal check in the mail to:
Matt Dralle / Matronics
581 Jeannie Way
Livermore CA 94550
USA
Thank you in advance for your generous support! It is very much appreciated!
Best regards,
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
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Great resource, keep it coming...
Marten V.
Thanks for maintaining these essential lists!
Rumen D.
Great Service!
Douglas D.
Thanks for this great service!
Peter T.
Thanks for your enduring support of homebuilding communications!
Daniel M.
You do a great job and provide a valuable service.
Mark B.
It's really a great source I have used a lot.
Robert K.
Reading the RV-10 list is part of my morning routine...
Perry C.
Great job running these lists.
Edward T.
Thanks for doing a tough job.
Mic T.
Your List was such a great resource for me when I built in "98".
Ron V.
Its a very useful forum.
Dave F.
Really enjoy your list...
William D.
Great service,
Gerald T.
The list still is a valuable source of information and there
are many worthwhile postings.
Graham H.
The list has seen me through an RV-9A, RV-10, and now an RV-12.
Albert G.
Thanks for a great resource!
Barry H.
Thank you for maintaining this excellent site.
Bill W.
The Matronics Email list are an invaluable service.
William C.
I appreciate the RV-10 list.
Vijay P.
Thanks for a great list and all of the work you do.
Ian W.
Thanks for keeping up this very useful list.
George R.
The list is excellent and I find it very handy for any problems
I come up against during construction.
Greg W.
The lists are an important part of my day. I've met lots of people
and made lots of friends.
Dave S.
It's really a great source I haved used a lot.
Robert K.
I read the Pietenpol List everyday.
PF B.
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Make Sure You're Listed! |
Dear Listers,
The List of Contributors (LOC) is just around the corner with just two more days
in this year's Fund Raiser! Later in December I will post a list of everyone
that so generously made a Contribution to support the Lists this year. Its
my way of publicly thanking everyone that took a minute to show their appreciation
for the Lists.
Won't you take minute and assure that your name is on the upcoming LOC? Tell others
that you appreciate the Lists.
Making a Contribution to support the Lists is fast and easy using your Visa, MasterCard,
or Paypal account:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Or, by dropping a personal check in the mail to:
Matt Dralle / Matronics
581 Jeannie Way
Livermore CA 94550
I would like to thank everyone that has so generously made a Contribution thus
far during this year's List Fund Raiser! Remember that its YOUR support that
keeps these Lists running and improving!
Thank you!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | [Please Read] - Last Official Day of List Fund Raiser! |
Dear Listers,
Its November 30th and that means at least two things. For better or worse, its
my 47th birthday! But it also means that its that last official day of the
Matronics Email List Fund Raiser! If you been drooling over one of the really
nice gifts that are available this year with a qualifying Contribution, then
now is the time to jump on one!!
If you've been meaning to make a Contribution this month but have been putting
it off for some reason, NOW is the time!
I will be posting the List of Contributors in a few days, so you'll probably want
to be known as a person that supported the Lists!
I want to thank everyone that has so generously made a Contribution this year in
support of our Lists. It is your generosity that keeps this operation running
and I don't ever forget it. Hopefully everyone feels the same.
The List Contribution Web Site is fast and easy. Please support our habit by making
your Contribution right now:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Or, by dropping a personal check in the mail to:
Matt Dralle / Matronics
581 Jeannie Way
Livermore CA 94550
Thank you to all in advance!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | 2010 List of Contributors |
Dear Listers,
The 2010 Matronics Email List and Forum Fund Raiser officially ended a couple of
weeks ago and its time that I publish this year's List of Contributors. Its
the people on this list that directly make the Email Lists and Forums possible.
Their generous contributions keep the servers and Internet connection up and
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