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Date: Nov 27, 2007
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: [Please Read] What are "The Lists" and Who's This Matt Dralle?
Dear Listers, Who is Matt Dralle and what exactly are these Lists? Well, I've been working in the information technology industry for nearly 25 years primarily in computer networking design and implementation. I have also done extensive work in web development and CGI design during that time, along with some embedded system development as well. I started the Matronics Email Lists back in 1990 with about 30 fellow RV builders from around the world. Since that time, I have added 63 other kinds of aircraft related Lists to the line up and numerous other List related services such as the Forums, Wiki, Archives and Search Engine just to name a few. For flexibility and reliability, I have chosen to run all of my own servers here locally. Other List-related systems include a 1 Gigabit, fully switched network infrastructure, a commercial-grade Netscreen firewall, a Barracuda spam filter, a local T1 Internet router, and a commercial-grade business T1 Internet connection with full static addressing. The computer servers found here include a quad-processor Xeon Linux server for List web services, a dual-processor Xeon Linux system dedicated to the email processing List functions, and another P4 Linux system serving as a remote storage disk farm for the archives, databases, and for an on-line hard drive-based backup system with 3.2 Terra Bytes of storage! This entire system is protected by three large, commercial-grade uninterrupted power supply (UPS) systems that assure the Lists are available even during a local power outage! Speaking of power, imagine how much electricity it takes to run all of these systems. One month last Summer, I had a staggering $1368 bill for electricity alone! I recently upgraded all of the computer racking infrastructure including new power feeds and dedicated air conditioning for the room that serves as the Computer Center for the Matronics Email Lists. Last year I added another rack to house the MONSTER quad-processor web system that didn't quite fit into the first rack! Here's a composite photo of the List Computer Center before the addition of the second rack: http://www.matronics.com/MattDralle-ListComputerCenter.jpg As you can see, I take running these Lists very seriously and I am dedicated to providing an always-on, 24x7x365 experience for each and every Lister. But building and running this system isn't cheap. As I've stated before, I don't support any of these systems with commercial advertising on the Lists. It is supported 100% through List member Contributions! That means you... and you... and YOU! To that end, I hold a List Fund Raiser each November and ask that members make a small Contribution to support the continued operation and upgrade of this ever-expanding system. Its solely YOUR Contributions that keeps it running! Won't you please take a moment to make a Contribution to support these Lists! http://www.matronics.com/contribution Or, by dropping a personal check in the mail to: Matronics / Matt Dralle PO Box 347 Livermore CA 94551-0347 USA (Please include your email address on the check!) There are some great gifts available with qualifying Contribution levels too! Thank you! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 28, 2007
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Wow! A Ton of Comments!
Dear Listers, I've been getting a ton of great comments from Listers along with their List Support Contributions lately! I've shared a bunch more below. Please read over some of them and see what your fellow Listers think of the Lists and Forums. There are just a couple more days left before the official end of this year's Fund Raiser. Please make a Contribution today to support the continued upgrade and operation of these services. There are still lots of awesome gifts available, so browse the extensive selection and pickup a nice item along with your qualifying Contribution. http://www.matronics.com/contribution Thank you in advance for your generous support! It is very much appreciated! Best regards, Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ----------- What Listers Are Saying About The Lists ----------- In the big picture, you are most certainly saving lives. The fact that you do it at a very good level of service, quality, and simplicity is just icing on the cake. We all owe you a debt of gratitude. Bruce M Can't go a single day without reading my lists. Even when I am overseas. Terry W Best list ever. No comparison. Johann J I get the digest for the two lists I subscribe to each morning -- they go great with my coffee! I can't tell you how much I've learned from this great service... Mark S ..great lists, best on the Net! Robert S It is very nice to enjoy a SPAM free list. Ken L You run a great list. Makes a builder feel like there's lots of help out there for the asking, and it's appreciated. Steve T The list is a very valuable resource. Thomas S You run a good list. James G Thanks for a great forum. Jimmy Y Thanks for a well-maintained list(s). Michael M Great job! Worth every penny! Stephen T Helps me learn and think about issues I didn't know I didn't know. Martin H I find the list very useful... Robert F What you do provides me with daily contact with a passion of my life, aviation. Wendell M ..the list it is very valuable information. Dwayne H ..a great service to homebuilders. Andrew H I have learned quite a lot from reading the Forums. I have been reading at the forum pages and I like the way it works. Ron L [The List] makes a builder feel like there's lots of help out there for the asking, and it's appreciated. Steve T The list service many purposes, not the least of which is motivation to join my fellow RVer in completing my project and getting in the air. John S Thanks for running a great site. Its simplicity is its greatness. Don't know how I would have been successful without it. Timothy F ..terrific service to experimental and general aviation. James F You have a well run operation. I am happy to support what you do. Mark S A wonderful service to the GA community. David M Great list - let's keep it ad-free! Ben C They have been of great help, learning and friendship for all the members Worldwide. Great job of yours, a little idea that grew really big and wonderful. Gary G ..a thoroughly enjoyable and informative List. John W A GREAT LEARNING TOOL!! Dwayne Y This is a very well-run list and it is a valuable resource for the Pietenpol enthusiast. Graham H Thanks for running this great site - helps those of us on the east of the pond keep in touch. Malcolm H Thanks for the major contribution to my continuing education program. Oldbob S I'm just getting started in the building process & find Matronics to be the most valuable site. Scott D Without the information and encouragement from the listers my project would have been sitting in the corner of my shop collecting dust long ago. Now it's almost ready for final assemble and covering. Edward G Great List. No Ads, just RV-10 builders. Keep it going. Rick E Wonderful source of info for building & flying... Graham H The Yak-list is a superb single source to get answers to questions on the operation of these aircraft. Craig W This list is valuable to everyone and your hard work is very much appreciated. Jim S ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 29, 2007
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Just Two Days Left...
Dear Listers, There are just a couple days left for this year's List Fund Raiser. Over all, participation has been good, but things have been pretty slow this week for some reason. If you've been putting off making your Contribution until the last minute, this is it! The last minute, that is... :-) Please remember that there isn't any sort of commercial advertising on the Lists and the *only* means of keeping these Lists running is through your Contributions during this Fund Raiser. Please make a Contribution today! http://www.matronics.com/contribution Thank you! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 30, 2007
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: [Please Read] - Last Official Day of List Fund Raiser!
Dear Listers, Its November 30th and that means a couple of things. Its my 44th birthday for one, but I'm trying to forget about that... But, it also means that its that last official day of the Matronics Email List Fund Raiser! If you been drooling over one of the really sweet free gifts that are available this year with a qualifying Contribution, then now is the time to jump on one!! If you've been meaning to make a Contribution, but just keep putting it off, then now is the time! I will be posting the List of Contributors in a few days, so you'll probably want to be known as a person that supported the Lists! Rather than the guy that, er, ah, forgot (or whatever)... :-) I want to thank everyone that has so generously made a Contribution so far this year in support of our Lists. It is your generosity that keeps this operation a float and I don't ever forget it. Hopefully everyone will feel the same. The List Contribution page is fast and easy. Please support our habit by making your Contribution right now: http://www.matronics.com/contribution Thank you all in advance! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Dec 06, 2007
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Matronics List Fund Raiser - 2007 List of Contributors
Dear Listers, I would like to thank everyone that made a Contribution in support of the Lists this year! It was really nice to hear all great comments people had regarding the Lists! As I have said many times before, running these Lists is a labor of love. Your generosity during the List Fund Raiser underscores the great sentiments people have made regarding the Lists. If you haven't yet made a Contribution in support of this year's Fund Raiser please feel free to do so. The great List Fund Raiser gifts will be available on the Contribution site for just a little while longer, so hurry and make your Contribution and get your great gift! Once again, the URL for the Contribution web site is: http://www.matronics.com/contribution I would like to thank Andy Gold of the Builder's Bookstore ( http://www.buildersbooks.com ), Jon Croke of Homebuilt HELP ( http://www.homebuilthelp.com ) and Bob Nuckolls of AeroElectric ( http://www.aeroelectric.com ) for their extremely generous support during this year's Fund Raiser through the contribution of discounted merchandise. These are great guys that support the aviation industry and I encourage each and every Lister to have a look at their products. Thank you Andy, Jon and Bob!! Your support is very much appreciated! And finally, below you will find a web link to the 2007 List of Contributors current as of 12/6/07! Have a look at this list of names as these are the people that make all of these List services possible! I can't thank each of you enough for your support and great feedback during this year's Fund Raiser! THANK YOU! http://www.matronics.com/loc/2007.html I will be shipping out all of the gifts in the next few weeks and hope to have everything out by the end of the month. In most cases, gifts will be shipped via US Postal Service. Once again, thank you for making this year's List Fund Raiser successful! Best regards, Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Dec 13, 2007
From: Dan Farmer <daniellfarmer(at)yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Lancair-List Digest: 0 Msgs - 12/12/07
does anyone use this forum? Lancair-List Digest Server wrote: * ================================================= Online Versions of Today's List Digest Archive ================================================= Today's complete Lancair-List Digest can also be found in either of the two Web Links listed below. The .html file includes the Digest formatted in HTML for viewing with a web browser and features Hyperlinked Indexes and Message Navigation. The .txt file includes the plain ASCII version of the Lancair-List Digest and can be viewed with a generic text editor such as Notepad or with a web browser. HTML Version: http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=html&Chapter 07-12-12&Archive=Lancair Text Version: http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=txt&Chapter 07-12-12&Archive=Lancair =============================================== EMail Version of Today's List Digest Archive =============================================== ---------------------------------------------------------- Lancair-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Wed 12/12/07: 0 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- --------------------------------- Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "N320G" <n320g(at)hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Lancair-List Digest: 0 Msgs - 12/12/07
Date: Dec 13, 2007
Pretty much no, everyone is over on LML. For archives and unsub http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/lml/List.html Gary Melton LNC2 900 hours ----- Original Message ----- From: Dan Farmer To: lancair-list(at)matronics.com Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 5:07 AM Subject: Lancair-List: Re: Lancair-List Digest: 0 Msgs - 12/12/07 does anyone use this forum? Lancair-List Digest Server wrote: * Online Versions of Today's List Digest Archive Today's complete Lancair-List Digest can also be found in either of the two Web Links listed below. The .html file includes the Digest formatted in HTML for viewing with a web browser and features Hyperlinked Indexes and Message Navigation. The .txt file includes the plain ASCII version of the Lancair-List Digest and can be viewed with a generic text editor such as Notepad or with a web browser. HTML Version: http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=html& Chapter 07-12-12&Archive=Lancair Text Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Konrad L. Werner" <klwerner(at)comcast.net>
Subject: Re: Lancair-List Digest: 0 Msgs - 12/12/07
Date: Dec 13, 2007
I don't recall the last one this one was used. The Glasair-list gets more traffic. ----- Original Message ----- From: Dan Farmer To: lancair-list(at)matronics.com Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 6:07 AM Subject: Lancair-List: Re: Lancair-List Digest: 0 Msgs - 12/12/07 does anyone use this forum? Lancair-List Digest Server wrote: * Online Versions of Today's List Digest Archive Today's complete Lancair-List Digest can also be found in either of the two Web Links listed below. The .html file includes the Digest formatted in HTML for viewing with a web browser and features Hyperlinked Indexes and Message Navigation. The .txt file includes the plain ASCII version of the Lancair-List Digest and can be viewed with a generic text editor such as Notepad or with a web browser. HTML Version: http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=html& Chapter 07-12-12&Archive=Lancair Text Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Mar 29, 2008
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Two New Lists Added to the Matronics Lineup!
Dear Listers, I've added two new Email Lists to the Matronics List and Forum lineup today. These include the Rans-List and RV12-List. Please surf over to the Matronics List Subscription page and sign up for these new Lists if they are of interest to you: http://www.matronics.com/subscribe Full support on the Forums, List Browse, Archives, etc. is available. Rans-List: http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Rans-List RV12-List http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV12-List Best regards, Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Andrew M" <andrew(at)oc384.net>
Subject: Anyone have a Lancair 360 ?
Date: Apr 15, 2008
I'm considering a Lancair 360 but haven't flown one yet. Any chance someone in the Midwest or Florida with one would be up for a ride some time? Thanks! Andrew ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Mike" <mlas(at)cox.net>
Subject: Anyone have a Lancair 360 ?
Date: Apr 15, 2008
Hey Andrew, I have a Legacy and I have a friend in VA that has a 360. The friend in VA might be up for a ride in a few weeks. -----Original Message----- From: owner-lancair-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-lancair-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Andrew M Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2008 11:16 AM Subject: Lancair-List: Anyone have a Lancair 360 ? I=92m considering a Lancair 360 but haven=92t flown one yet. Any chance someone in the Midwest or Florida with one would be up for a ride some time? Thanks! Andrew "http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Lancair-List"http://www.matronics.co m/Navigator?Lancair-List "http://forums.matronics.com"http://forums.matronics.com "http://www.matronics.com/contribution"http://www.matronics.com/contribu tion 10/2/2007 11:10 AM 10/2/2007 11:10 AM ________________________________________________________________________________
From: steve korney <s_korney(at)hotmail.com>
Subject: Anyone have a Lancair 360 ?
Date: Apr 16, 2008
While your at it.... Try to get a ride in a Glasair 1rg or a 2rg... That w ay you can compare the way they fly yourself... I think the Glasair flies b etter, but the Lancair flies a little faster... That is engine for engine.. . Best... Steve From: mlas(at)cox.net Subject: RE: Lancair-List: Anyone have a Lancair 360 ? Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2008 21:35:19 -0700 Hey Andrew, I have a Legacy and I have a friend in VA that has a 360. The friend in VA might be up for a ride in a few weeks. -----Original Message----- From: owner-lancair-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-lancair-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Andrew M Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2008 11:16 AM Subject: Lancair-List: Anyone have a Lancair 360 ? I=92m considering a Lancair 360 but haven=92t flown one yet. Any chance someone in the Midwest or Florida with one would be up for a ride some time? Thanks! Andrew - The Lancair-List Email Forum - --> http://www.matronics.com /Navigator?Lancair-List - MATRONICS WEB FORUMS - --> http:/ /forums.matronics.com - List Contribution Web Site - Thank you for your generous support! -Matt Dralle, List Admin. --> http://www.matronics.com/contribution 10/2/2007 11:10 AM 10/2/2007 11:10 AM _________________________________________________________________ Get in touch in an instant. Get Windows Live Messenger now. http://www.windowslive.com/messenger/overview.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_Refr esh_getintouch_042008 ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Apr 26, 2008
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Four New Email Lists At Matronics!!
Dear Listers, I have added four new Lists to the Matronics line up today. These include the following categories: Citabria-List Citabria, Decathlon, Scout, and Champ Zenith601-List Zenair Zodiac CH 601 Zenith640-List Zenair Zodiac CH 640 Zenith701801-List Zenair STOL CH 701 and CH 801 All services are enabled and now available including Search, Browse, Digest, Archives, Forums, Chat, etc., etc. etc...: Citabria: http://www.matronics.com/navigator?citabria-list Zenith601: http://www.matronics.com/navigator?zenith601-list Zenith640: http://www.matronics.com/navigator?zenith640-list Zenith701801: http://www.matronics.com/navigator?zenith701801-list To subscribe, go to the Matronics Email List Subscription Form: http://www.matronics.com/subscribe To check the new Lists out on the Matronics Forum go here: http://forums.matronics.com Enjoy the new Lists!! Don't forget me during the Fund Raiser! :-) Best regards, Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Larry James" <larry(at)ncproto.com>
Subject: crooks at Performance Engines
Date: Apr 30, 2008
Well, it's time I go public. Ron Munson / Performance Engines has owed me and promised to pay me back my $20,000 deposit for over two years now. I read Matt Throckmorton's account of his dealings with Mike Moore and mine is a very similar story. Bottom line here, no matter how you slice it Ron Munson is a liar and a cheat and should be in jail; let alone receive any orders from any of us or anyone else. His "salesman" Stuart Featherstone falls into the same category. I've tried being nice talking with him, I've had an attorney send nice letters, I've had an attorney send threatening letters, I've had a collections agency work to get my money back. So far, no joy. Apparently Ron Munson has moved his banking to Nevada while maintaining operations in California; making it more difficult and expensive to go after him. Anyone with any ideas on what to do with this crook ?? I have no intention of letting this go J. _________________ Larry E. James Bellevue, WA Super Decathlon Rocket (under construction) ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Apr 30, 2008
From: "al hamilton" <hamilton(at)twinwolf.net>
Subject: Re: crooks at Performance Engines
Larry first you need to get a judgment against him then get the Nevada court to acknowledge the foreign judgment and then attach his Nevada assets. Also record the judgment in any County in California that he has any real property. Then take him back to court on a judgment debtors examination and under oath you can ask him about all his assets and business activities. If you find any assets you can attach them. al On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 2:34 PM, Larry James wrote: > Well, it's time I go public. Ron Munson / Performance Engines has owed me > and promised to pay me back my $20,000 deposit for over two years now. I > read Matt Throckmorton's account of his dealings with Mike Moore and mine is > a very similar story. Bottom line here, no matter how you slice it Ron > Munson is a liar and a cheat and should be in jail; let alone receive any > orders from any of us or anyone else. His "salesman" Stuart Featherstone > falls into the same category. I've tried being nice talking with him, I've > had an attorney send nice letters, I've had an attorney send threatening > letters, I've had a collections agency work to get my money back. So far, no > joy. Apparently Ron Munson has moved his banking to Nevada while > maintaining operations in California; making it more difficult and expensive > to go after him. Anyone with any ideas on what to do with this crook ?? I > have no intention of letting this go J. > _________________ > Larry E. James > Bellevue, WA > Super Decathlon > Rocket (under construction) > > * > > * > > ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Larry James" <larry(at)ncproto.com>
Subject: FW: crooks at Performance Engines
Date: May 01, 2008
From: Larry James [mailto:larry(at)ncproto.com] Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2008 10:27 AM Subject: crooks at Performance Engines >>Larry, >> >>First let me say that I Purchased my engine from the fine folks at Mattatuck. That said I don't have a dog in >>this hunt in any way. Judging from your post you have just taken this public although there is not much detail. >>There is usually 2 sides to every story so I don't have any ability to evaluate your claim. >> >>I think before reasonable folks make judgments about the credibility of either side we should have some facts. >>Otherwise there are courts to sort out such disputes based on documented facts and not on emotion. >> >>All the best, I hope you are able to get satisfactory resolution. In the mean time lets not all rush to >>judgment. >> >>Ralph Hoover Hi Ralph, Here are some more details: I own / run a small business and see a lot of things run by my desk. I run a high-end machine shop with all multi-axis machines making orthopedic implants, medical devices, aircraft parts, and the like. The success of my business is largely based on old fashioned principles: honesty, quality, and expertise. The short story on goes like this: I decided to go with Performance Engines for a "hot rod" IO-540 for my Rocket. They asked for a $20,000 deposit and promised delivery in 90 days - all in a written contract (by email and fax). The 90 days came and went, I wasn't worried; another couple of months went by, I still wasn't too worried. After 9 months went by and still no engine I was worried. We had been talking during this time and there were "reasons" for the delay (for example, they were unable to secure a Barrett cold-air-induction sump). Then a friend of mine (based at my home airport) visited Performance Engines looking for another engine builder for his Reno racer; and found that while Performance advertises and talks up their dyno data and experience; they have no dyno. Given this and the fact that they were over 6 months late in delivering my engine I decided to pull the plug; I cancelled my order and asked for my deposit back. Ron agreed but asked for a little time to pull together the $20,000. Again I wasn't too worried and agreed to 2 months. This time came and went with no money. Long story short, after 2 years, over 50 phone calls, many promises, many broken promises, and the involvement of an attorney; I had received around $8,000 of my deposit returned. During this time my secretary kept a phone log and the number of calls and emails that went un-returned is staggering; as well as the number of times we were promised "$4,000 by the end of next week" only to receive $1500 2-1/2 weeks later. As a last resort I let a collections agency try; and after they had worked their normal process, they came back and said that Ron had shown himself to be fairly adept at circumventing debt; among the tactics are banking in Nevada while conducting operations in California and having his bookkeeper stonewall. These folks said the only way to go further would be for me to pay the up-front costs of a lawsuit. I'm taking this to mean "more good money after bad" so I'm very reticent to make this investment (most likely not an investment at all). That's pretty much the story. It has been my experience that it is not that hard to "do the right thing" and keep my nose clean. There is a very rare customer that is difficult to please, but they are rare. Even more rare (but do exist) is the "impossible to please" customer. It happens. But even then, it is fairly easy to walk away clean. My dealings with Ron at Performance has been anything but clean. I was quite reticent to go public with this and your response is exactly why. If I read someone making a claim like this I would naturally ask myself what part this "wronged person" had played to cause this breakdown. In throwing this mud it seems there is no escaping some of it sticking to me. And I didn't like this prospect. But in the end I didn't like the prospect of Ron Munson getting away with my (now) $12,000 even more. And in truth I cannot find myself carrying any fault - the case is very simple and straight forward: I paid a deposit for an engine; the engine was never delivered; it was acknowledged the deposit was to be returned; the deposit was not returned; done; black and white. The only reasonable conclusion is that Performance Engines, Ron Munson, and Stuart Featherstone are crooks. I have received some very nice and encouraging emails off-line; thank you to all of you J If anyone else has ideas on how I can get my money back I'd love to hear from them. Larry E. James Bellevue, WA Super Decathlon Rocket under construction ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Larry James" <larry(at)ncproto.com>
Subject: RE: the money you owe me
Date: May 01, 2008
Hi Stuart, The very fact that you are asking this speaks volumes. The Performance Engines website calls you the Sales Manager. Holding this position in the company and taking no action to remedy the situation defines you as complicit. So where is my money ??? Larry E. James 425-885-1200 800-783-9782 From: SFeatherstone [mailto:stuart(at)performanceengines.com] Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2008 4:43 PM Subject: RE: the money you owe me Larry, Would you kindly explain. If I do not own any part of Performance Engines. And. I make no financial decisions regarding any part of Performance Engines. And. The information provided to me comes only from the owner of Performance Engines. How exactly did I become a crook? Thank you, Stuart Featherstone _____ From: Larry James [mailto:larry(at)ncproto.com] Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2008 1:09 PM Cc: 'Sara Halcomb' Subject: the money you owe me Importance: High Ron and Stuart, My public attack exposing you and your crooked business is quickly spinning up. Within the last 1-1/2 days you have lost 3 engine sales that I am aware of and directly responsible for. It seems people are reluctant to deal with you because you don't return deposits for engines when you don't deliver those engines. I am just getting started. If you wish to control damage you can overnight me a check for the full amount you owe me. I will not slow or halt my work exposing you until all funds have cleared my bank. Larry E. James New Concepts Redmond, WA 425-885-1200 800-783-9782 ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Larry James" <larry(at)ncproto.com>
Subject: RE: RV-List: RE: the money you owe me
Date: May 02, 2008
Dale, Thank you and right on !!!! The support I am seeing and hearing on this puts a big smile on my face and in my chest. Thank you. This was the only correspondence I've had from Performance to date and nothing has yet been done. I have more in the hopper and you are right Dale; it will explode soon unless it is rectified straight away. Larry From: owner-rv-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dale Walter Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2008 5:58 PM Subject: RE: RV-List: RE: the money you owe me Stuart, You need to help your company succeed. Find the strengths and build on them. Be honest about the weaknesses and work to resolve them. If you ask people for help, in an honest way, many would lend a hand. Larry did, and what did you and your team do for him? This will bring out all the lurkers, there will be no more hiding. I too have worked with ex cons, and I did my best to get them on the right path. Do the right thing; before this explodes. Ask your management team to send him $100 a week or even $50 and see the difference in public support. We want good engine builders, Dale _____ From: owner-rv-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Larry James Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2008 8:22 PM Subject: RV-List: RE: the money you owe me Hi Stuart, The very fact that you are asking this speaks volumes. The Performance Engines website calls you the Sales Manager. Holding this position in the company and taking no action to remedy the situation defines you as complicit. So where is my money ??? Larry E. James 425-885-1200 800-783-9782 From: SFeatherstone [mailto:stuart(at)performanceengines.com] Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2008 4:43 PM Subject: RE: the money you owe me Larry, Would you kindly explain. If I do not own any part of Performance Engines. And. I make no financial decisions regarding any part of Performance Engines. And. The information provided to me comes only from the owner of Performance Engines. How exactly did I become a crook? Thank you, Stuart Featherstone _____ From: Larry James [mailto:larry(at)ncproto.com] Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2008 1:09 PM Cc: 'Sara Halcomb' Subject: the money you owe me Importance: High Ron and Stuart, My public attack exposing you and your crooked business is quickly spinning up. Within the last 1-1/2 days you have lost 3 engine sales that I am aware of and directly responsible for. It seems people are reluctant to deal with you because you don't return deposits for engines when you don't deliver those engines. I am just getting started. If you wish to control damage you can overnight me a check for the full amount you owe me. I will not slow or halt my work exposing you until all funds have cleared my bank. Larry E. James New Concepts Redmond, WA 425-885-1200 800-783-9782 http://www.matronics.com/contribution ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Bob-tcw" <rnewman(at)tcwtech.com>
Subject: New products from TCW Technologies
Date: May 31, 2008
Fellow builders, We are pleased to announce another new product. Universal Switch- Airspeed Kit. (USW-1) At Sun-n-Fun many folks got to see our Safety-Trim and Intelligent Flap Controller system in action. This included a working demonstration of our products. Aside from the interest generated in these products we had a lot of inquires regarding the use of our Airspeed Switch (ASW-1) for the control of other electrical loads in the airplane. Well this new product addresses that need. USW-1 allows for the control of electrical loads up to 10 amps based on aircraft speed. This product provides a "squat switch" like capability and may be used to enable/disable a transponder. For all the details please visit our web site. www.tcwtech.com Thank you, Bob Newman 40176 finish kit. ________________________________________________________________________________
From: Im7shannon(at)aol.com
Date: Sep 25, 2008
Subject: De-icing Prop
Hello, I have a flywheel and contactors for a hot prop setup from IO540 C4B5, I need a plain flywheel without the contactor rings on it for my plane, so if anyone is planning or think you might want to add a hot prop in the future wanna trade flywheels? Contact me offlist im7shannon(at)aol.com Thanks Kevin Shannon HRII N450KS 55 hours flying **************Looking for simple solutions to your real-life financial challenges? Check out WalletPop for the latest news and information, tips and calculators. (http://www.walletpop.com/?NCID=emlcntuswall00000001) ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 01, 2008
From: dralle(at)matronics.com
Subject: Matronics Email List Fund Raiser During November!
Dear Listers, Each November I hold a PBS-like fund raiser to support the continued operation and upgrade of the List services at Matronics. It's through soley through the Contributions of List members that these Matronics Lists are possible. You have probably noticed that there are no banner ads or pop-up windows on any of the Matronics Lists or related web sites such as the Forums site ( http://forums.matronics.com ), Wiki site ( http://wiki.matronics.com ), or other related pages such as the List Search Engine ( http://www.matronics.com/search ), List Browse ( http://www.matronics.com/listbrowse ), etc. This is because I believe in a List experience that is completely about the sport we all enjoy - namely Airplanes and not about annoying advertisments. During the month of November I will be sending out List messages every few days reminding everyone that the Fund Raiser is underway. I ask for your patience and understanding during the Fund Raiser and throughout these regular messages. The Fund Raiser is only financial support mechanism I have to pay all of the bills associated with running these lists. Your personal Contribution counts. Once again, this year I've got a terrific line up of free gifts to go along with the various Contribution levels. Most all of these gifts have been provided by some of the vary members and vendors that you'll find on Matronics Lists and have been either donated or provided at substantially discounted rates. This year, these generous people include Bob Nuckolls of the AeroElectric Connection (http://www.aeroelectric.com/), Andy Gold of the Builder's Bookstore (http://www.buildersbooks.com/), and Jon Croke of HomebuiltHELP (http://www.homebuilthelp.com/). These are extremely generous guys and I encourage you to visit their respective web sites. Each one offers a unique and very useful aviation-related product line. I would like publicly to thank Bob, Andy, and Jon for their generous support of the Lists again this year!! You can make your List Contribution using any one of three secure methods this year including using a credit card, PayPal, or by personal check. All three methods afford you the opportunity to select one of this year's free gifts with a qualifying Contribution amount!! To make your Contribution, please visit the secure site below: https://www.matronics.com/contribution I would like to thank everyone in advance for their generous financial AND moral support over the years. I know it sounds a little cliche, but you guys really do feel like family. Thank you for your support! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 01, 2008
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Contribution Site URL Clarification
Dear Listers, In my List Fund Raiser kickoff email last night, I mistyped the URL for the *initial* Contribution web site and couple of people reported receiving SSL certificate errors. The actual payment entry pages where were correct, however, so there were no certificate issues that impacted payment data. I'm sorry for the confusion. Please use the following URL to start your List Contribution: http://www.matronics.com/contribution Thank you for your support! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 03, 2008
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Please Make a Contribution to Support Your Lists...
Dear Listers, Just a reminder that November is the Annual List Fund Raiser. Please make a Contribution today to support the continued operation and upgrade of these great List services!! Pick up a really nice free gift with your qualifying Contribution too! The Contribution Site is fast and easy: http://www.matronics.com/contribution Thank you! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 05, 2008
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: List Fund Raiser
A couple of years ago I implemented an automatic "squelch button" of sorts for the Fund Raiser messages. Here's how it works... As soon as a List member makes a Contribution through the Matronics Fund Raiser web site, he or she will instantly cease to receive these Fund Raiser messages for the rest of the month! Its just that simple. Don't you wish PBS worked that way! :-) I really do appreciate each and every one of your individual Contributions to support the Lists. It is your support that enables me to upgrade the hardware and software that are required to run a List Site like this. It also goes to pay for the commercial-grade Internet connection and to pay the huge electric bill to keep the computer gear running and the air conditioner powered on. I run all of the Matronics Email List and Forums sites here locally which allows me to control and monitor every aspect of the system for the utmost in reliably and performance. Your personal Contribution matters because, when combined with other Listers such as yourself, it pays the bills to keep this site up and running. I accept exactly ZERO advertising dollars for the Matronics Lists sites. I can't stand the pop-up ads and all other commercials that are so prevalent on the Internet these days and I particularly don't want to have it on my Email List sites. If you appreciate the ad-free, grass-roots, down-home feel of the Matronics Email Lists, please make a Contribution to keep it that way!! http://www.matronics.com/contribution Thank you! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator [Note that there are certain circumstances where you might still see a Contribution related message. For example, if someone replies to one of the messages, when using the List Browse feature, or when accessing List message via the Forum. The system keys on the given email address and since most of these are anonymous public access methods, there is no simple way to filter them.] ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 06, 2008
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Reminder
Dear Listers, Just a quick reminder that November is the annual List Fund Raiser. The Matronics Lists are 100% member supported and all of the operational costs are provided for my your Contributions during this time of the year. Your personal Contribution makes a difference and keeps all of the Matronics Email Lists and Forums completely ad-free. Please make your Contribution today to keep these services up and running! http://www.matronics.com/contribution Thank you in advance! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List and Forum Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 10, 2008
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Fund Raiser List of Contributors - Please Make A Contribution
Today! Each year at the end of the List Fund Raiser, I post a message acknowledging everyone that so generously made a Contribution to support the Lists. Its sort of my way of publicly thanking everyone that took a minute to show their appreciation for the Lists. Won't you take a moment and assure that your name is on that List of Contributors (LOC)? As a number of members have pointed out over the years, the List seems at least - if not a whole lot more - valuable as a building/flying/recreating/entertainment tool as your typical magazine subscription! Please take minute and assure that your name is on this year's LOC! Show others that you appreciate the Lists. Making a Contribution to support the Lists is fast and easy using your Credit card or Paypal on the Secure Web Site: http://www.matronics.com/contribution or by dropping a personal check in the mail to: Matt Dralle / Matronics PO Box 347 Livermore CA 94551-0347 I would like to thank everyone that has so generously made a Contribution thus far in this year's List Fund Raiser! Remember that its YOUR support that keeps these Lists going and improving! Don't forget to include a little comment about how the Lists have helped you! Best regards, Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 12, 2008
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Please Make A Contribution To Support Your Lists
Dear Listers, There is no advertising income to support the Matronics Email Lists and Forums. The operation is supported 100% by your personal Contributions during the November Fund Raiser. Please make your Contribution today to support the continued operation and upgrade of these services. You can pick up a really nice gift for making your Contribution too! You may use a Credit Card or Paypal at the Matronics Contribution Site here: http://www.matronics.com/contribution or, you can send a personal check to the following address: Matronics / Matt Dralle PO Box 347 Livermore, CA 94551-0347 Thank you in advance for your generous support! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List and Forum Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 14, 2008
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Fund Raiser Lagging Last Year By Over 30%...
As of the 13th, the Fund Raiser is currently about 30% behind last year in terms of the number of Contributions. Yet, oddly the number of messages posted per day is up by 10 to 20% on the average. It costs real money to run these Lists and they are supported 100% though your Contributions during the Fund Raiser. Won't you please take a minute right now to make your Contribution to keep these Lists up and running? Contribution Page: http://www.matronics.com/contribution Thank you for your support! Matt Dralle Email List Admin. ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 16, 2008
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: What's My Contribution Used For?
Dear Listers, Some have asked, "What's my Contribution used for?" and that's a good question. Here are just a few examples of what your direct List support enables. It provides for the very expensive, commercial-grade T1 Internet connection used on the List insuring maximum performance and minimal contention when accessing List services. It pays for the regular system hardware and software upgrades enabling the highest performance possible for services such as the Archive Search Engine, List Browser, and Forums. It pays for 19+ years worth of online archive data available for instant random search and access. And, it offsets the many hours spent writing, developing, and maintaining the custom applications that power this List Service such as the List Browse, Search Engine, Forums, Wiki and PhotoShare. But most importantly, your List Contribution enables a forum where you and your peers can communicate freely in an environment that is free from moderation, censorship, advertising, commercialism, SPAM, and computer viruses. How many places on the Internet can you make all those statements these days? It is YOUR CONTRIBUTION that directly enables these many aspects of these valuable List services. Please support it today with your List Contribution. Its one of the best investments you can make in your Sport... List Contribution Web Site: http://www.matronics.com/contribution Thank you for your support! Matt Dralle Email List Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 18, 2008
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: What Members Are Saying...
Dear Listers, November is the Annual Matronics List Fund Raiser. The Lists are supported solely through your generous Contributions during this time. Please make your Contribution today and pick up a really nice free gift at this same time: http://www.matronics.com/contribution Listers have been including some really nice comments regarding what the Lists mean to them along with their Contributions this year. I've included a few of them below. Please read them over and see if some perhaps echo your feelings as well. Thank you for your support this year! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List and Forum Administrator ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Best bargain in the entire industry!! -Owen B Every year your lists are better, sure #1 in e-mail list in the world. -Gary G Thank you for an awesome site! -Ashley M Your lists are important to me and well worth paying for. -Calvin A Thank you for providing such and informative and ad free environment to learn by. -Myron H As always, a valuable and extremely useful resource. Stephen T As always, a great service. -Reade G Very much appreciate this site and the communications it has enabled between builders. -Larry M This service is worth every penny. -Robert S Great site! Thanks a ton for its functionality! -Peter B The RV-10 list feels like my community. -Dave S The lists are fantastic, a great source! -Jimmy Y I've learned a lot from the List. -Gabriel F A wonderful resource. -Gerald G Well done. -Richard N Years of good service. -William M Valuable service. -Keith H The site is quite helpful. -Jon M Very interesting List that I read form the beginning. -Alain L A well managed site. -Carl B Great service. -Svein Kare J Still the most useful program on the computer. -Fergus K Great contribution to my project! -Robert K Thanks for keeping a great list. -Dt G The List continues to provide excellent information. -Tony C This is a wonderful resource that has easily saved me a bunch on my build-time. -Ralph C Thank you for providing a great service. The Zenith builder's community would be in sad shape without the Zenith-List's. -Terrence P I really do get pleasure out of reading the List every day. -Bill V Great source of information. -Arthur V Thanks for a great service. Very enjoyable. -Louis B You know we all could not do without your support!! -James S Great resource! -Douglas D Thanks for the great service. -John B ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 20, 2008
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Behind By 21% - Advertising May Be Needed...?
Dear Listers, The percentage of people making a Contribution to support the Lists this year is currently lagging behind last year by approximately 21%! I'm hoping that everyone is just waiting until the last minute to show their support... ;-) Please remember that it is solely your direct Contributions that keep these Lists up and running and most importantly - AD FREE! If the members don't want to support the Lists directly, then I will likely have to start adding advertisements to offset the costs of running the Lists. But I *really* don't want to have to start doing that. I really like the non-commercial atmosphere here and I think that a lot of the members appreciate that too. Please take a moment to make a Contribution today in support of the continued ad-free operation of all these Lists: http://www.matronics.com/contribution I want to send out a word of appreciation to all of the members that have already made their generous Contribution to support the Lists! Thank you! Matt Dralle Email List Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 22, 2008
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: LOC
Dear Listers, Each year at the end of the List Fund Raiser, I post a message acknowledging everyone that so generously made a Contribution to support the Lists. Its sort of my way of publicly thanking everyone that took a minute to show their appreciation for the Lists. Won't you take a moment and assure that your name is on that List of Contributors (LOC)? As a number of members have pointed out over the years, the List seems at least - if not a whole lot more - valuable as a building/flying/recreating/entertainment tool as your typical magazine subscription! Please take minute and assure that your name is on this year's LOC! Show others that you appreciate the Lists. Making a Contribution to support the Lists is fast and easy using your Credit card or Paypal on the Secure Web Site: http://www.matronics.com/contribution or by popping a personal check in the mail to: Matronics Email Lists c/o Matt Dralle PO Box 347 Livermore CA 94551-0347 I would like to thank everyone that has so generously made a Contribution thus far in this year's List Fund Raiser! Remember that its YOUR support that keeps these Lists going and improving! Don't forget to include a little comment about how the Lists have helped you! Best regards, Matt Dralle Email List Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 24, 2008
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Value of the List...
If you look forward to checking your List email everyday (and a lot of you have written to say that you do!), then you're probably getting at least $20 or $30 worth of Entertainment from the Lists each year. You'd pay twice that for a subscription to some lame magazine or even just a single dinner out. Isn't the List worth at least that much to you? Won't you please take a minute to make your Contribution today and support the Lists? Contribution Page: http://www.matronics.com/contribution Again, I want to say THANK YOU to everyone that has made a Contribution thus far during this year's List Fund Raiser!! These Lists are made possible exclusively through YOUR generosity!! Thank you for your support! Matt Dralle Email List Admin. ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 26, 2008
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Just A Few More Days...
Dear Listers, There are just a few more days left in this year's List Fund Raiser. There are some great gifts available when you make a qualifying Contribution and there's plenty still available. Don't forget that its *your* Contribution that keeps the computers running, the electricity turned on, and the computer room AC cooling! If you look forward to reading your List email each day, won't you please take a minute right now to make your personal Contribution? Credit Card or Paypal: http://www.matronics.com/contribution Personal Check: Matronics / Matt Dralle PO Box 347 Livermore, CA 94550 Thank you for your support! Matt Dralle ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 28, 2008
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Just 3 Days Left - Please Make Your List Contribution Today!
There are only three days left until the end of this year's List Fund Raiser. Please take a minute to show your support as so many others have this year and make sure YOUR name is on the forthcoming List of Contributors 2008! Its quick and easy using the secure web site with a credit card or PayPal: http://www.matronics.com/contribution or by sending your personal check to: Matronics Lists c/o Matt Dralle PO Box 347 Livermore, CA 94551-0347 (Please write your email address on the check!) Thank you in advance for your support of these List services! Matt Dralle Matronics Email and Forum Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 29, 2008
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: What Listers Have Been Saying
Wow! Many of the members making a List Support Contribution this year have been using the Comments field to leave a personal message about the Lists. Thank you! I have included a number of them below. Please read over a few and see if you perhaps can echo some of the same sentiments regarding the value of the Lists to you... There is only a couple more days left for this year's List Fund Raiser and we're still way behind previous years. If you've been waiting until the last minute to show your support, Now is the Time! Please make your Contribution and pick up a great gift at the same time! By Credit Card or Paypal: http://www.matronics.com/contribution or By Personal Check: Matronics / Matt Dralle PO Box 347 Livermore, CA 94550-7227 Thank you in advance!! Matt Dralle Email List and Forums Administrator Here is some of the great feedback members have been including along with their personal Contributions this year... Over the years, the info I have received from the RV-List has saved me thousands of dollars, and dozens of hours of time by helping me avoid bad purchases, pointing me at vendors with low prices and excellent support, and providing solutions to the typical head scratchers that you run into. Kevin H Valuable service. Best List(s) on the Internet! George A Please accept this token not as an indicator of what this list has been worth to me this past year. Lew G Great information and entertainment. Tim V Thanks again for another great year of service. This project would be beyond me if it were not for the list. Moreover, the friendships I have found are worth their weight in GOLD! Robert B Great support you provide to all the subscribers! Freddie H Read it every day. PF B Thanks for your excellent management of the Matronics Lists! Your services are head and shoulders above the rest. James M Without the "List", there would be no Kolb "community". Bill T Thanks, Matt, for a great service! I've been monitoring and using the lists since 1999. Richard D Thanks for such a terrific site and for all the work and effort you put into it. John R A great service year after year. John D ..another year of fantastic service. Jerry B This list is a great resource. Arden A Great list. James M Lists were a great help while building HRII N561FS. John S Great resources for both the beginner and experienced. George R Good service. Gary G The List is an invaluable resource! William C AeroElectric list is a great source of info and learning! Janice J Thank you, Matt for being there for us making it all happen on the List for so many years - Great JOB! Sam S Thank you for providing a great venue. You definitely hit the nail on the head with your solicitation asking if readers look forward to receiving the email digests. I certainly do and when I move from a dreamer to a builder, I expect the anticipation will only increase. Joe S Thanks for a Perfect working list. Hans-Peter R Great List Bryan K Such a great selection of valuable forums! David G Nice job! Walt E Good resource... Robert P Thank you for another great year! Scott S I could not do this without you... Robert D I believe I've been a list member for over a decade now. Thanks for the service! Tim L Great List Hendrik W ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Bill Bradburry" <bbradburry(at)bellsouth.net>
Subject: What Listers Have Been Saying
Date: Nov 29, 2008
Hi Matt. I subscribe to several lists and have this problem with only the Lancair list. Each msg shows up in duplicate. I have made several inquiries as to why that might happen and if it could be fixed, but to no avail. Can you help? This is the only list that does this...I am using Vista if that matters. Thanks, Bill Bradburry -----Original Message----- From: owner-lancair-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-lancair-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Matt Dralle Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2008 3:23 AM Subject: Lancair-List: What Listers Have Been Saying Wow! Many of the members making a List Support Contribution this year have been using the Comments field to leave a personal message about the Lists. Thank you! I have included a number of them below. Please read over a few and see if you perhaps can echo some of the same sentiments regarding the value of the Lists to you... There is only a couple more days left for this year's List Fund Raiser and we're still way behind previous years. If you've been waiting until the last minute to show your support, Now is the Time! Please make your Contribution and pick up a great gift at the same time! By Credit Card or Paypal: http://www.matronics.com/contribution or By Personal Check: Matronics / Matt Dralle PO Box 347 Livermore, CA 94550-7227 Thank you in advance!! Matt Dralle Email List and Forums Administrator Here is some of the great feedback members have been including along with their personal Contributions this year... Over the years, the info I have received from the RV-List has saved me thousands of dollars, and dozens of hours of time by helping me avoid bad purchases, pointing me at vendors with low prices and excellent support, and providing solutions to the typical head scratchers that you run into. Kevin H Valuable service. Best List(s) on the Internet! George A Please accept this token not as an indicator of what this list has been worth to me this past year. Lew G Great information and entertainment. Tim V Thanks again for another great year of service. This project would be beyond me if it were not for the list. Moreover, the friendships I have found are worth their weight in GOLD! Robert B Great support you provide to all the subscribers! Freddie H Read it every day. PF B Thanks for your excellent management of the Matronics Lists! Your services are head and shoulders above the rest. James M Without the "List", there would be no Kolb "community". Bill T Thanks, Matt, for a great service! I've been monitoring and using the lists since 1999. Richard D Thanks for such a terrific site and for all the work and effort you put into it. John R A great service year after year. John D ..another year of fantastic service. Jerry B This list is a great resource. Arden A Great list. James M Lists were a great help while building HRII N561FS. John S Great resources for both the beginner and experienced. George R Good service. Gary G The List is an invaluable resource! William C AeroElectric list is a great source of info and learning! Janice J Thank you, Matt for being there for us making it all happen on the List for so many years - Great JOB! Sam S Thank you for providing a great venue. You definitely hit the nail on the head with your solicitation asking if readers look forward to receiving the email digests. I certainly do and when I move from a dreamer to a builder, I expect the anticipation will only increase. Joe S Thanks for a Perfect working list. Hans-Peter R Great List Bryan K Such a great selection of valuable forums! David G Nice job! Walt E Good resource... Robert P Thank you for another great year! Scott S I could not do this without you... Robert D I believe I've been a list member for over a decade now. Thanks for the service! Tim L Great List Hendrik W ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 30, 2008
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Last "Official" Day Of The List Fund Raiser!
Dear Listers, Its November 30th and that means three things:.. 1) Today I am now officially 45 years old... 2) It marks that last "official" day of this year's List Fund Raiser! 3) Its the last day I will be bugging everyone for a whole year! If you use the Lists and enjoy the content and the no-advertising, no-spam, and no-censorship way in which they're run, please make a Contribution today to support their continued operation and upkeep. Your $20 or $30 goes a long way to keep the List bills paid. I will be posting the List of Contributors next week so make sure your name is on it! Thank you to everyone that has made a Contribution so far this year! It is greatly appreciated. http://www.matronics.com/contribution Best regards, Matt Dralle Email List and Forum Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: What Listers Have Been Saying
From: "Matt Dralle" <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Date: Nov 30, 2008
I checked the subscriptions and only found a single occurrence of your email address. Generally when I hear this report it is related to a filter that the member has configured on their email client that is "copying" instead of "moving" an incoming email message. Best regards, Matt bbradburry(at)bellsouth.n wrote: > Hi Matt. > > I subscribe to several lists and have this problem with only the Lancair > list. Each msg shows up in duplicate. I have made several inquiries as to > why that might happen and if it could be fixed, but to no avail. > Can you help? This is the only list that does this...I am using Vista if > that matters. > > Thanks, > Bill Bradburry > > -- -------- Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=217049#217049 ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Bill Bradburry" <bbradburry(at)bellsouth.net>
Subject: Re: What Listers Have Been Saying
Date: Nov 30, 2008
I only got one copy of this msg. When I get them from Marv, I always get two copies. I only get one copy of the Aeroelectric list. ???? Bill B -----Original Message----- From: owner-lancair-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-lancair-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Matt Dralle Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2008 11:25 AM Subject: Lancair-List: Re: What Listers Have Been Saying I checked the subscriptions and only found a single occurrence of your email address. Generally when I hear this report it is related to a filter that the member has configured on their email client that is "copying" instead of "moving" an incoming email message. Best regards, Matt bbradburry(at)bellsouth.n wrote: > Hi Matt. > > I subscribe to several lists and have this problem with only the > Lancair list. Each msg shows up in duplicate. I have made several > inquiries as to why that might happen and if it could be fixed, but to no avail. > Can you help? This is the only list that does this...I am using Vista > if that matters. > > Thanks, > Bill Bradburry > > -- -------- Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=217049#217049 ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Dec 08, 2008
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: List of Contributors 2008
Dear Listers, This year's Fund Raiser has drawn to a close and I want to thank everyone that so generously made a contribution this year in support of the Matronics Email List and Forum operation. Your generosity keeps the wheels on this cart and I truly appreciate the many kind words of encouragement and financial reimbursement. If you haven't yet made a Contribution in support of this year's Fund Raiser, please feel free to do so. The great List Fund Raiser gifts will be available on the Contribution site for a little while longer, so hurry and make your Contribution today and still get your great gift! Once again, the URL for the Contribution web site is: http://www.matronics.com/contribution or by personal check to: Matronics / Matt Dralle PO Box 347 Livermore CA 94551-0347 I would like to thank Andy Gold of the Builder's Bookstore ( http://www.buildersbooks.com ), Jon Croke of HomebuiltHELP ( http://www.homebuilthelp.com ) and Bob Nuckolls of AeroElectric ( http://www.aeroelectric.com ) for their extremely generous support during this year's Fund Raiser through the contribution of discounted merchandise. These are great guys that support the aviation industry and I encourage each and every Lister to have a look at their products. Thank you Andy, Jon and Bob!! Your support is very much appreciated! And finally, below you will find a web link to the 2008 List of Contributors current as of 12/7/08! Have a look at this list of names as *these* are the people that make all of these List services possible! I can't thank each of you enough for your support and great feedback during this year's Fund Raiser! THANK YOU! http://www.matronics.com/loc/2008.html I will be shipping out all of the gifts around the end of December. In most cases, gifts will be shipped via US Postal Service. Once again, thank you for making this year's List Fund Raiser successful! Best regards, Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Gerard Souza" <gerard(at)villanautica.com.br>
Subject: Pressurization System
Date: Aug 04, 2009
Dear Sirs, I`ve bought one Lancair IV-P Propjet and flew it to Brazil. The pressurization system never works. Do you have any idea to solve this matter? I have no manuals about the Duke Pressurization system. Unfortunately, we don't have a lot of Lancairs down here in Brazil. Kind Regards GERARD SOUZA www.villanautica.com.br www.jpsmotorsport.com.br ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Gerard Souza" <gerard(at)villanautica.com.br>
Subject: ENC: Lancair-List Digest: 0 Msgs - 08/02/09
Date: Aug 04, 2009
Dear Sirs, Would you unsubscribe me from the Lancair and Continental discussions groups. Kind regards GERARD SOUZA www.villanautica.com.br www.jpsmotorsport.com.br -----Mensagem original----- De: owner-lancair-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-lancair-list-server(at)matronics.com] Em nome de Lancair-List Digest Server Enviada em: segunda-feira, 3 de agosto de 2009 03:57 Para: Lancair-List Digest List Assunto: Lancair-List Digest: 0 Msgs - 08/02/09 * ================================================= Online Versions of Today's List Digest Archive ================================================= Today's complete Lancair-List Digest can also be found in either of the two Web Links listed below. The .html file includes the Digest formatted in HTML for viewing with a web browser and features Hyperlinked Indexes and Message Navigation. The .txt file includes the plain ASCII version of the Lancair-List Digest and can be viewed with a generic text editor such as Notepad or with a web browser. HTML Version: http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=html&Chapter 09-08-02&Archive=Lancair Text Version: http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=txt&Chapter 2009-08-02&Archive=Lancair =============================================== EMail Version of Today's List Digest Archive =============================================== ---------------------------------------------------------- Lancair-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sun 08/02/09: 0 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Aug 04, 2009
From: George Rosel <rosel_george(at)yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Pressurization System
Try calling the Duke's company. You will probably have to send the entire s ystem to them, including the controller and gauge. Then check the system wi ring and make sure all the pin outs and wiring is correct. I also had a pro blem and found that the plug that plugs into the Dukes valve was wired back wards and burning up the Dukes valve. You must also understand that the Duk es valve, controller, and gauge is a matched set and must stay together. Ho pe this helps.....=C2-=C2- George George F. Rosel =0A2431 Lilac Dr. =0ALiberal, Ks. 67901 =0A =0A620-624-8849 office =0A620-624-9409 fax =0A620-655-8217 cell --- On Tue, 8/4/09, Gerard Souza wrote: From: Gerard Souza <gerard(at)villanautica.com.br> Subject: Lancair-List: Pressurization System Date: Tuesday, August 4, 2009, 9:23 AM =0A=0A=0A =0A =0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0ADear Sirs, =0A=0A =C2- =0A=0AI`ve boug ht one Lancair IV-P Propjet and=0Aflew it to Brazil. =0A=0AThe pressurizat ion system never works. =0A=0ADo you have any idea to solve this matter? =0A=0AI have no manuals about the Duke Pressurization=0Asystem. =0A=0AUnfor tunately, we don=99t have a lot of=0ALancairs down here in Brazil. =0A=0A =C2- =0A=0AKind Regards =0A=0A =C2- =0A=0AGERARD SOUZA =0A=0Aww w.villanautica.com.br =0A=0Awww.jpsmotorsport.com.br =0A=0A =C2- =0A=0A =0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A =0A=0A=0A ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 01, 2009
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: PLEASE READ - Matronics Email List Fund Raiser During November!
Dear Listers, Each November I hold a PBS-like fund raiser to support the continued operation and upgrade of the List services at Matronics. It's solely through the Contributions of List members that these Matronics Lists are possible. There is NO advertising to support the Lists. You might have noticed the conspicuous lack of flashing banners and annoying pop-ups on the Matronics Email List email messages and web site pages such as the Matronics List Forums ( http://forums.matronics.com ), the List Wiki ( http://wiki.matronics.com), or other related pages such as the List Search Engine ( http://www.matronics.com/search ), the List Browser ( http://www.matronics.com/listbrowse ), etc. This is because I believe in a List experience that is completely about the sport we all enjoy - namely Airplanes and not about annoying advertisements. During the month of November I will be sending out List messages every couple of days reminding everyone that the Fund Raiser is underway. I ask for your patience and understanding during the Fund Raiser and throughout these regular messages. The Fund Raiser is only financial support mechanism I have to pay all of the bills associated with running these lists. Your personal Contribution counts! Once again, this year I've got a terrific line up of free gifts to go along with the various Contribution levels. Most all of these gifts have been provided by some of the vary members and vendors that you'll find on Matronics Lists and have been either donated or provided at substantially discounted rates. This year, these generous people include Bob Nuckolls of the AeroElectric Connection (http://www.aeroelectric.com/), Andy Gold of the Builder's Bookstore (http://www.buildersbooks.com/), and Jon Croke of HomebuiltHELP (http://www.homebuilthelp.com/). These are extremely generous guys and I encourage you to visit their respective web sites. Each one offers a unique and very useful aviation-related product line. I would like publicly to thank Bob, Andy, and Jon for their generous support of the Lists again this year!! You can make your List Contribution using any one of three secure methods this year including using a credit card, PayPal, or by personal check. All three methods afford you the opportunity to select one of this year's free gifts with a qualifying Contribution amount!! To make your Contribution, please visit the secure site below: http://www.matronics.com/contribution I would like to thank everyone in advance for their generous financial AND moral support over the years! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 03, 2009
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: November List Fund Raiser
A couple of years ago I implemented an automatic "squelch button" of sorts for the Fund Raiser messages. Here's how it works... As soon as a List member makes a Contribution through the Matronics Fund Raiser web site, he or she will instantly cease to receive these Fund Raiser messages for the rest of the month! Its just that simple. Don't you wish PBS worked that way! :-) I really do appreciate each and every one of your individual Contributions to support the Lists. It is your support that enables me to upgrade the hardware and software that are required to run a List Site such as this one. It also goes to pay for the commercial-grade Internet connection and to pay the huge electric bill to keep the computer gear running and the air conditioner powered on. I run all of the Matronics Email List and Forums sites here locally which allows me to control and monitor every aspect of the system for the utmost in reliably and performance. Your personal Contribution matters because, when combined with other Listers such as yourself, it pays the bills to keep this site up and running. I accept exactly ZERO advertising dollars for the Matronics Lists sites. I can't stand the pop-up ads and all other commercials that are so prevalent on the Internet these days and I particularly don't want to have it on my Email List sites. If you appreciate the ad-free, grass-roots, down-home feel of the Matronics Email Lists, please make a Contribution to keep it that way!! http://www.matronics.com/contribution Thank you! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator [Note that there are certain circumstances where you might still see a Contribution related message. For example, if someone replies to one of the messages, when using the List Browse feature, or when accessing List message via the Forum. The system keys on the given email address and since most of these are anonymous public access methods, there is no simple way to filter them.] ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 05, 2009
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Reminder
Dear Listers, Just a quick reminder that November is the annual List Fund Raiser. The Matronics Lists are 100% member supported and all of the operational costs are provided for my your Contributions during this time of the year. Your personal Contribution makes a difference and keeps all of the Matronics Email Lists and Forums completely ad-free. Please make your Contribution today to keep these services up and running! http://www.matronics.com/contribution Thank you in advance! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List and Forum Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Please Make a Contribution to Support Your Lists...
From: "gerry26" <rana.vijay02(at)gmail.com>
Date: Nov 05, 2009
WHEREAS, this nation is kept strong and free by the loyal citizens who preserve our precious heritage through their positives declaration and actions; and WHEREAS, our deployed service members have courageously answered their nations call to service by defending our freedoms on foreign lands; and WHEREAS, Americans are encouraged to reaffirm their patriotism and allegiance to our flag and country, and honor the brave men and women currently deployed to protect and preserve our way of life........ Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=271230#271230 ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 07, 2009
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Please Make A Contribution To Support Your Lists
Dear Listers, There is no advertising income to support the Matronics Email Lists and Forums. The operation is supported 100% by your personal Contributions during the November Fund Raiser. Please make your Contribution today to support the continued operation and upgrade of these services. You can pick up a really nice gift for making your Contribution too! You may use a Credit Card or Paypal at the Matronics Contribution Site here: http://www.matronics.com/contribution or, you can send a personal check to the following address: Matronics / Matt Dralle PO Box 347 Livermore, CA 94551-0347 Thank you in advance for your generous support! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List and Forum Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 09, 2009
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Fund Raiser List of Contributors - Please Make A Contribution
Today! Each year at the end of the List Fund Raiser, I post a message acknowledging everyone that so generously made a Contribution to support the Lists. Its my way of publicly thanking everyone that took a minute to show their appreciation for the Lists. Won't you take a moment and assure that your name is on that List of Contributors (LOC)? As a number of members have pointed out over the years, the List seems at least - if not a whole lot more - valuable as a building/flying/recreating/entertainment tool as your typical magazine subscription! Please take minute and assure that your name is on this year's LOC! Show others that you appreciate the Lists. Making a Contribution to support the Lists is fast and easy using your Credit card or Paypal on the Secure Web Site: http://www.matronics.com/contribution or by dropping a personal check in the mail to: Matt Dralle / Matronics PO Box 347 Livermore CA 94551-0347 I would like to thank everyone that has so generously made a Contribution thus far in this year's List Fund Raiser! Remember that its YOUR support that keeps these Lists going and improving! Don't forget to include a little comment about how the Lists have helped you! Best regards, Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 11, 2009
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: List Fund Raiser
Dear Listers, Just a reminder that November is the Matronics Email List Fund Raiser month. There are some very nice incentive gifts to choose from as well! Please make your Contribution today: http://www.matronics.com/contribution Thank you! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 13, 2009
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Some Very Nice Comments...
Dear Listers, I've been getting some really nice comments from Listers along with their List Support Contributions. I've shared some of them below. Please read them over and see what your fellow Listers think of the Lists and Forums. Please make a Contribution today to support the continued upgrade and operation of these services. There are lots of sweet gifts available, so browse the extensive selection and pickup a nice item along with your qualifying Contribution. http://www.matronics.com/contribution Thank you in advance for your generous support! It is very much appreciated! Best regards, Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ----------- What Listers Are Saying About The Lists ----------- Few things in life bring more usefulness than the List. This is worth every penny! Stephen T. I have enjoyed the list for way too many years, but continue to get closer to flying my project with the help of listers. C.L. Thanks for this List. It's been a great source of encouragement and information. Arden A. Great service! Gerald T. It's always interesting reading the lists and I've gotten some good help from the issues and answers there. Steve T. Been a member of the List for 12 years. Keep up the good work. John H. Great Site! Harry M. Great source of information... Martin H. Thanks for providing this great service! Jeff P. I continue to get and give information through these lists. Ralph C. This is a wonderful resource! Warren H. This is what inernet was meant for, sharing information and experience. Michael W. Thanks for making such a good list! Fred D. Thanks for running a great service! Michael F. I really appreciate it. Dan H. Thanks for the great service. Michael L. Thanks for maintaining this great resource. John C. Your sites have been a great resourses and an introduction to many competent aircraft designers and fabricators. Jon M. Thanks for all that you do to maintain the Matronics forums and for the personal help that you have been to me in answering my questions regarding the use of the forums. William B. [The List] helped me get flying, fly off my test hours and make my systems better. Ralph C. The Universe is a better place because of you. Eric J. ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 16, 2009
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Contributions Down By 21%...
Dear Listers, As of today, contributions to the Matronics List Fund Raiser are lagging behind last year at this time by 21%. I have a fund raiser each year simply to cover my operating costs for the Lists. I *do not* accept any advertising income to support the Lists and rely solely on the contributions of members to keep the expenses paid. I run all of my own servers and they are housed here locally, and the Internet connection is a commercial-grade, T1 connection with public address space. I also maintain a full backup system that does nightly backups of all List-related data so that in the event of a server crash or worse, all of the Lists and the many years of List archive data could be restored onto a new server in a matter of hours. All of this costs a fair amount of money, not to mention a significant amount of my personal time as well. I have a Fund Raiser each year to cover these costs and I ask that members that feel they receive a benefit from my investments, make a modest contribution each year to support the continued operation and upgrade of these services. If you enjoy the Lists, please make a contribution today. I also offer some incentive gifts for larger contribution levels. At the Contribution Web Wite, you can use a credit card, Paypal, or personal check to show your support for the continuation of these services: http://www.matronics.com/contribution Thank you for your support! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 18, 2009
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: What's My Contribution Used For?
Dear Listers, Some have asked, "What's my Contribution used for?" and that's a good question. Here are just a few examples of what your direct List support enables. It provides for the very expensive, commercial-grade T1 Internet connection used on the List insuring maximum performance and minimal contention when accessing List services. It pays for the regular system hardware and software upgrades enabling the highest performance possible for services such as the Archive Search Engine, List Browser, and Forums. It pays for narly 20 years (yeah, I really said *20* years) worth of online archive data available for instant random search and access. And, it offsets the many hours spent writing, developing, and maintaining the custom applications that power this List Service such as the List Browse, Search Engine, Forums, and Wiki. But most importantly, your List Contribution enables a forum where you and your peers can communicate freely in an environment that is free from moderation, censorship, advertising, commercialism, SPAM, and computer viruses. How many places on the Internet can you make all those statements these days? It is YOUR CONTRIBUTION that directly enables these many aspects of these valuable List services. Please support it today with your List Contribution. Its one of the best investments you can make in your Sport... List Contribution Web Site: http://www.matronics.com/contribution Thank you for your support! Matt Dralle Email List Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 20, 2009
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Just A Few Days Left; Still Trailing Last Year...
Dear Listers, There are just a few more days left of this year's List Fund Raiser! Response has been very good, but still well behind last year. If you've been waiting until the last minute to make your contribution and maybe even pick up a great gift, now might be good time to show your support! Please remember that there isn't any sort of commercial advertising on the Lists and the *only* means of keeping these Lists running is through your Contributions during this Fund Raiser. Please make a Contribution today! http://www.matronics.com/contribution Thank you! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 22, 2009
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Make Sure You're Listed! List of Contributors Published
in December! Dear Listers, The List of Contributors (LOC) is just around the corner! In December I post a list of everyone that so generously made a Contribution to support the Lists. Its my way of publicly thanking everyone that took a minute to show their appreciation for the Lists. Won't you take minute and assure that your name is on the upcoming LOC? Tell others that you appreciate the Lists. Making a Contribution to support the Lists is fast and easy using your Visa, MasterCard, or Paypal account: http://www.matronics.com/contribution Or, by dropping a personal check in the mail to: Matronics / Matt Dralle PO Box 347 Livermore CA 94551-0347 USA (Please include your email address on the check!) I would like to thank everyone that has so generously made a Contribution thus far during this year's List Fund Raiser! Remember that its YOUR support that keeps these Lists running and improving! Don't forget to include a little comment about how the Lists have helped you! Thank you! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 24, 2009
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Just A Few More Days To Make Your List Contribution...
There is less than a week left in this year's List Fund Raiser and only a few short days to grab one of the great Contribution Gifts available this year. Support is still significantly lagging behind last year at this point but hopefully it will pick up here towards the end. Please remember that it is solely the Contributions of List members that keeps the Lists up and running as there is no commercialism or advertising on the Matronics Lists and Forums. The List Contribution web site is secure, fast, and easy and you can use a credit card, Paypal, or a personal check: http://www.matronics.com/contribution I want to thank everyone that has already made a generous contribution to support the Lists! Thank you! Matt Dralle Matronics EMail List and Forum Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 26, 2009
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: What Are You Thankful For...?
Dear Listers, Here in the United States, Thursday is our National day of Thanksgiving. Many of us will be traveling to be with our families and friends to share in generous feasts of plenty and giving thanks for many blessings that have been bestowed upon us. Many Listers have expressed over the last couple of weeks how thankful they are for the Email Lists and Forums here on the Matronics servers and for all of the assistance and comradery they have experienced being a part of the Lists. One of my favorite comments is when someone writes to me and says something like, "Its the first thing I do in the morning while I'm having my morning coffee!". That's a wonderful tribute to the purpose and function of these Lists. Its always great to hear I'm not the only one that jumps out of bed each morning to check my List email!! Won't you take a minute today and show your appreciation for these Lists and for their continued operation and upgrade? The List Contribution Site is: http://www.matronics.com/contribution Thank you in advance for your kind consideration, Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 28, 2009
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: No "Black Friday" For List Fund Raiser...
Even though the number of List subscriptions and List posts are up significantly this year compared to last year, support during this year's List Fund Raiser has been woefully lagging from last year. There are only a couple more days left in November and the end of the Fund Raiser is quickly approaching. I have always preferred a non-commercial List experience as many, many members have also expressed that they do as well. However, if the yearly fund raiser cannot generate sufficient funds to keep the bills paid on the List service expenses, I will have to look into some sort of advertising. Please don't let that happen! Your personal contribution of $20 or $30 goes a long ways to keeping the operation a float. The lunch combo at Carl's Jr costs nearly $10 these days. Isn't the List worth at least as much as a couple of burgers? Please make sure your name is on this year's List of Contributors published in December. The Contribution site is secure, quick, and easy: http://www.matronics.com/contribution Thank you in advance for your support! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List and Forum Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 29, 2009
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Just Two More Days Left; Fund Raiser Behind By 12%...
Dear Listers, This year's List Fund Raiser is still trailing last year by a 12% margin. If you like the ad-free environment that is the Matronics Email List and Forum experience, please make a quick Contribution to keep it that way! http://www.matronics.com/contribution I've been getting a ton of really nice comments from Contributors regarding the Lists. Please read over some of them below and see if they don't resonate with you as well. Thank you in advance for your generous contribution to support these Lists! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator --------------------------- Member Feedback ---------------------------- ur web site is a real institution of the whole Experimental Aircraft subculture. John G Thanks Matt for the lists. A lot of good info. Great bunch of list members. Great videos and no SPAM. Paul C It has been a valuable tool. Troy M ..appreciate the site as much as ever. Larry M By using various forums I've learned a ton, received great advice, made friends, and saved money! Craig W Since I've finished [my project], I've not had much to do as far as fabrication of electrical systems. However, selectively reading various topics is still very valuable and Bob's insights and new how to's make me a continuous subscriber. Larry F Matronics user groups are the best tool I have for learning to build my RV-10! Philip W There is always useful knowledge to be found on this list, and I suspect that it has kept quite a few people out of trouble over the years it has been in operation. Good entertainment, too. Graham H Great web site. I wish I'd known about it while building. Bob S I'm happy to provide some support to this list. It is very helpful. Vaughn T Good service to sport aviation!! Roger B Awesome Service you provide for us! Bill R My [project] is almost finished! However, it wouldn't be close without the [this] group. Douwe B Great list. Robert S I'm not a builder yet but learning lots from the list. Peter M Some nonsense, some humor, but mostly good information. Tony C Thanks for creating and keeping the Lists. They are entertaining and always informative! John M Thanks for this valuable resource to our community. Barry H The list is IMHO the greatest resource on the net. John B Thanks again for providing another year of your useful List service. Jerry B Great site indeed, every time I get a message I usually learn something. Peter B You are making a huge contribution to the builder fraternity and in no small way enhancing sport aviation safety. Richard G The List is the SINGLE, MOST IMPORTANT resource I have in building my RV10. I would be lost without out it. And I have made a bunch of new friends as well! Les K The lists are one of the things I really enjoy, so keep up the good work. Freddie H Every year -- the best value for my time and money! Owen B This list is a major contribution to safe building! Donald K Really enjoy the daily boost it gives me. Walter S In the last 18 months I have been privileged to listen & ask. I have learnt at the feet of the masters... Stewart G You set the standard on how Internet forums should be run and managed. Larry W The Universe is a better place because of you. Eric J [The List] helped me get flying, fly off my test hours and make my systems better. I continue to get and give information through these lists. Ralph C ..another GREAT year of advice, answers, and inspiration courtesy of the Lists and your hard work!!!! Rob B ..the best forum on the Internet! Robert B I can't tell you how grateful I am for your list and your subscribers to keep me up to date and holding the dream. Ashley M This page makes it easy to contribute. Jeffrey P Thank you for your expertise in creating & running the much useful lists! Anthony P Thanks for providing our advertising free on line community. George R Thanks for maintaining the equipment and software to provide this valuable source of information to us individuals. Your effort is appreciated by many more people than you realize. Ross H Thanks for a great site. Although the project is complete and flying I still get a wealth of information from all the messages. Marcus C Only learned about you six months ago...my RV-7A is just finished, but the list has been helpful. Wish I had discovered you sooner. Jack B This is an invaluable communications media for us common minded folks to exchange technical and other information. George H ..great service that you provide. David W ..still appreciate your list. Alain L [The] Lists are an invaluable resource. I know that it has helped me enormously in my project. William B ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 30, 2009
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: [Please Read] - Last Official Day of List Fund Raiser!
Dear Listers, Its November 30th and that means at least two things. For better or worse, its my 46th birthday! But it also means that its that last official day of the Matronics Email List Fund Raiser! If you been jones'n over one of the really nice gifts that are available this year with a qualifying Contribution, then now is the time to jump on one!! If you've been meaning to make a Contribution this month but have been putting it off for some reason, NOW is the time! I will be posting the List of Contributors in a few days, so you'll probably want to be known as a person that supported the Lists! I want to thank everyone that has so generously made a Contribution so far this year in support of our Lists. It is your generosity that keeps this operation a float and I don't ever forget it. Hopefully everyone feels the same. The List Contribution Web Site is fast and easy. Please support our habit by making your Contribution right now: http://www.matronics.com/contribution Thank you to all in advance! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Gretz Heated Pitot For Sale
From: "Barry" <blalmarz(at)embarqmail.com>
Date: Dec 02, 2009
Pitot has been sold Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=275751#275751 ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Dec 21, 2009
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: 2009 List of Contributors
Dear Listers, The 2009 Matronics Email List and Forum Fund Raiser officially ended a couple of weeks ago and its time that I publish this year's List of Contributors. Its the people on this list that directly make the Email Lists and Forums possible. Their generous contributions keep the servers and Internet connection up and running. You can still show your support this year and pick up a great gift at the same time. The Contribution Web Site is fast, easy, and secure: http://www.matronics.com/contribution I also want to thank Bob, Jon, Andy, and John for their generous support through the supply of great gifts this year!! These guys have some great products and I encourage you to visit their respective web sites: Bob Nucklolls - AeroElectric - www.aeroelectric.com Jon Croke - HomebuiltHELP - www.homebuilthelp.com Andy Gold - The Builder's Bookstore - www.buildersbooks.com John Caldwell - HowToCrimp - www.howtocrimp.com And finally, I'm proud to present The 2009 Fund Raiser List of Contributors: http://www.matronics.com/loc/2009.html Thanks again to everyone that made a Contribution this year!! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List and Forum Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: LANCAIR 360MKII For Sale - Australia (5 Feb 2010)
From: "jetfighterrides" <jetfighterrides(at)gmail.com>
Date: Feb 04, 2010
Hi Folks I have an immaculate Lancair 360MkII, available for immediate sale in Australia. Total cost 90K AUD o.n.o For details go to: http://aviationadvertiser.com.au/classifieds/detail.php?id=990 -------- Regards Matthew Doherty Pilot/owner www.jetfighterrides.com.au Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=284920#284920 ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Electronic Circuit Breakers on your EFIS
From: "marcausman" <marc(at)verticalpower.com>
Date: May 11, 2010
Vertical Power, along with its EFIS partners, recently announced the VP-X Electronic Circuit Breaker System. The VP-X uses proven electronic circuit breakers to simplify wiring and provide advanced electrical system capabilities. Monitor the status of individual devices and the entire electrical system right from your EFIS. Avionics, lights, trim, and flaps can all be controlled using standard switches or the EFIS. The VP-X works with Advanced Flight Systems, Grand Rapids Technologies HX and HX Sport, and MGL Voyager/Odyssey Gen 2 EFIS products. Click to learn more. http://www.verticalpower.com/VPX.html -------- Marc Ausman http://www.verticalpower.com "Move up to a modern electrical system" RV-7 IO-390 Flying Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=297358#297358 ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Tad Sargent" <tadsargent(at)bellsouth.net>
Subject: FS:Trutrak autopilot
Date: Jul 31, 2010
Digitrak http://www.trutrakap.com/products/Digitrak.html Fits Standard 2.25" Round Hole Built-in Ground Track DG Track Select Mode GPS Nav Mode Control Wheel Steering 12 Volts only New DT2 - $1,600 This unit has been used for 123 hours. I bought it from a friend and I intended to install it in the RV8 I am building, my partner does not want an A/P in the plane. Asking price $1300.00 for a barely used unit call 704-591-2035 Tad Sargent TeamRV ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: PRECISE FLIGHT SPEED BRAKES MOTOR WANTED
From: "mds4878" <mike(at)profishenterprises.com>
Date: Aug 07, 2010
I'm looking for the Simplex motor for cable actuated Precise Flight speed brakes. Mike Schulz 612-590-8604. Thanks. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=307853#307853 ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Patrick VERHEE" <patrick.verhee(at)aliceadsl.fr>
Subject: Re: Lancair-List Digest: 0 Msgs - 10/21/10
Date: Oct 22, 2010
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From: "GARY PENNINGTON" <pennington(at)q.com>
Subject: Lancair ES
Date: Oct 31, 2010
Hello everyone I am thinking of building a Lancair ES. In fact, I have been evaluating a partially built kit that is for sale. I'm wondering what is the smallest engine that has been successfully used and what climb, cruise and economy that could be expected from it. Also, how well does the ES fly. Are there any little quirks with the ES that is a concern? How difficult is it to get used to the side sticks? Can anyone advise me? Thank you. Gary Pennington ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "tom.on.the.road(at)juno.com" <tom.on.the.road(at)juno.com>
Date: Oct 31, 2010
Subject: Re: Lancair ES
Gary, I have a kit (mostly completed) for sale. The ES was originally designed for the Cont. 360 (210 HP).. Many were b uilt. and fly well. Some folks have put Lycomings in (6 cyl.) and they d o well too. With the IO-550, you can run lean of peak on less than 12 gph at 180-185 knots. Call, if you're interested in my kit. Tom 970-420-1798 ____________________________________________________________ Go Back to School Grant Funding May Be Available to Those Who Qualify http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4ccd756e4326c7d5f0st01vuc ________________________________________________________________________________
From: Brian Alley <n320wt(at)yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Lancair ES
Date: Oct 31, 2010
Gary, I've built one ES and have two in my shop in Ona, WV. If I can help or if you want to come by, give me a call Sent from my iPhone Brian Alley carbonfibercomposites.net 304-395-4932 On Oct 31, 2010, at 8:59 AM, "GARY PENNINGTON" wrote: > Hello everyone > > I am thinking of building a Lancair ES. In fact, I have been evaluating a p artially built kit that is for sale. > > I'm wondering what is the smallest engine that has been successfully used a nd what climb, cruise and economy that could be expected from it. > > Also, how well does the ES fly. Are there any little quirks with the ES th at is a concern? How difficult is it to get used to the side sticks? > > Can anyone advise me? > > Thank you. > Gary Pennington > > ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= > ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "GARY PENNINGTON" <pennington(at)q.com>
Subject: Re: Lancair ES
Date: Oct 31, 2010
Hello Brian Thank you so much for your response. I currently have a 1998 Piper Archer III. I just listed it for sale so I can build an ES. I'd like to sell the Archer and build an ES for the same amount of money. To keep the cost down, I would like to use an O-360, 210 horsepower engine in the ES. I'm wondering if it would perform well. Have you had any problems with the main gear legs? Any shimmy? Any fuel delivery problems or leakage? Does the plane handle well? Is it difficult to get used to the side sticks? Thanks again Brian Gary Pennington ----- Original Message ----- From: Brian Alley<mailto:n320wt(at)yahoo.com> To: lancair-list(at)matronics.com Sent: Sunday, October 31, 2010 8:59 AM Subject: Re: Lancair-List: Lancair ES Gary, I've built one ES and have two in my shop in Ona, WV. If I can help or if you want to come by, give me a call Sent from my iPhone Brian Alley carbonfibercomposites.net<http://carbonfibercomposites.net/> 304-395-4932 On Oct 31, 2010, at 8:59 AM, "GARY PENNINGTON" > wrote: Hello everyone I am thinking of building a Lancair ES. In fact, I have been evaluating a partially built kit that is for sale. I'm wondering what is the smallest engine that has been successfully used and what climb, cruise and economy that could be expected from it. Also, how well does the ES fly. Are there any little quirks with the ES that is a concern? How difficult is it to get used to the side sticks? Can anyone advise me? Thank you. Gary Pennington 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Lancair-List"http://www.matro nics.com/Navigator?Lancair-List"> 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D http://forums.matronics.com"http://forums.matronics.com"> 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D http://www.matronics.com/contribution"http://www.matronics.com/c ontribution"> 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Bill Bradburry" <bbradburry(at)bellsouth.net>
Subject: Lancair ES
Date: Oct 31, 2010
Gary, Building a plane is not just exactly like selling one and buying another.you will probably be without a plane to fly for several years if you sell then build. The best build plans have a way of life getting in the way of them. If you can get a good deal, I recommend that you find a kit partially completed and look at it very carefully to see if it is done with quality so you want have to redo anything. Good Luck! Bill B _____ From: owner-lancair-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-lancair-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of GARY PENNINGTON Sent: Sunday, October 31, 2010 4:16 PM Subject: Re: Lancair-List: Lancair ES Hello Brian Thank you so much for your response. I currently have a 1998 Piper Archer III. I just listed it for sale so I can build an ES. I'd like to sell the Archer and build an ES for the same amount of money. To keep the cost down, I would like to use an O-360, 210 horsepower engine in the ES. I'm wondering if it would perform well. Have you had any problems with the main gear legs? Any shimmy? Any fuel delivery problems or leakage? Does the plane handle well? Is it difficult to get used to the side sticks? Thanks again Brian Gary Pennington ----- Original Message ----- From: Brian <mailto:n320wt(at)yahoo.com> Alley Sent: Sunday, October 31, 2010 8:59 AM Subject: Re: Lancair-List: Lancair ES Gary, I've built one ES and have two in my shop in Ona, WV. If I can help or if you want to come by, give me a call Sent from my iPhone Brian Alley carbonfibercomposites.net 304-395-4932 On Oct 31, 2010, at 8:59 AM, "GARY PENNINGTON" wrote: Hello everyone I am thinking of building a Lancair ES. In fact, I have been evaluating a partially built kit that is for sale. I'm wondering what is the smallest engine that has been successfully used and what climb, cruise and economy that could be expected from it. Also, how well does the ES fly. Are there any little quirks with the ES that is a concern? How difficult is it to get used to the side sticks? Can anyone advise me? Thank you. Gary Pennington 3D=========================3 D=================== title='about:3D"http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Lancair-List"' href='3D"http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Lancair-List"'>http://www.matron ics.com/Navigator?Lancair-List 3D=========================3 D=================== href='3D"http://forums.matronics.com"'>http://forums.matronics.com 3D=========================3 D=================== title='about:3D"http://www.matronics.com/contribution"' href='3D"http://www.matronics.com/contribution"'>http://www.matronics.com/co ntribution 3D=========================3 D=================== ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "GARY PENNINGTON" <pennington(at)q.com>
Subject: Re: Lancair ES
Date: Oct 31, 2010
Hello Bill Your comments are very helpful. Thank you very much. Gary Pennington ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Bradburry<mailto:bbradburry(at)bellsouth.net> To: lancair-list(at)matronics.com Sent: Sunday, October 31, 2010 4:28 PM Subject: RE: Lancair-List: Lancair ES Gary, Building a plane is not just exactly like selling one and buying another.you will probably be without a plane to fly for several years if you sell then build. The best build plans have a way of life getting in the way of them. If you can get a good deal, I recommend that you find a kit partially completed and look at it very carefully to see if it is done with quality so you want have to redo anything. Good Luck! Bill B ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- From: owner-lancair-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-lancair-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of GARY PENNINGTON Sent: Sunday, October 31, 2010 4:16 PM To: lancair-list(at)matronics.com Subject: Re: Lancair-List: Lancair ES Hello Brian Thank you so much for your response. I currently have a 1998 Piper Archer III. I just listed it for sale so I can build an ES. I'd like to sell the Archer and build an ES for the same amount of money. To keep the cost down, I would like to use an O-360, 210 horsepower engine in the ES. I'm wondering if it would perform well. Have you had any problems with the main gear legs? Any shimmy? Any fuel delivery problems or leakage? Does the plane handle well? Is it difficult to get used to the side sticks? Thanks again Brian Gary Pennington ----- Original Message ----- From: Brian Alley<mailto:n320wt(at)yahoo.com> To: lancair-list(at)matronics.com Sent: Sunday, October 31, 2010 8:59 AM Subject: Re: Lancair-List: Lancair ES Gary, I've built one ES and have two in my shop in Ona, WV. If I can help or if you want to come by, give me a call Sent from my iPhone Brian Alley carbonfibercomposites.net<http://carbonfibercomposites.net/> 304-395-4932 On Oct 31, 2010, at 8:59 AM, "GARY PENNINGTON" > wrote: Hello everyone I am thinking of building a Lancair ES. In fact, I have been evaluating a partially built kit that is for sale. I'm wondering what is the smallest engine that has been successfully used and what climb, cruise and economy that could be expected from it. Also, how well does the ES fly. Are there any little quirks with the ES that is a concern? How difficult is it to get used to the side sticks? Can anyone advise me? Thank you. Gary Pennington 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3Dtitle='about:3D"http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Lancair-List"' href='3D"http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Lancair-List"'>http://www.m atronics.com/Navigator?Lancair-List3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3Dhref='3D"http://forums.matronics.c om"'>http://forums.matronics.com3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3Dtitle='about:3D"http://www.matroni cs.com/contribution"' href='3D"http://www.matronics.com/contribution"'>http://www.matronics.c om/contribution3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Lancair-Listhttp://forums.matronics.co mhttp://www.matronics.com/contribution www.aeroelectric.com<http://www.aeroelectric.com/> www.buildersbooks.com<http://www.buildersbooks.com/> www.homebuilthelp.com<http://www.homebuilthelp.com/> http://www.matronics.com/contribution on> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Lancair-List Navigator?Lancair-List> ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Nicholas Paczkowski" <npaczkowski(at)telus.net>
Subject: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?RE=3A_Lancair-List=3A_Lancair_ES?
Date: Oct 31, 2010
X-mailer: iolo System Shield 4.0.3.161 I endorse what Bill is saying. I am on my 10th year of building a L-IV. Life has a way.... In any event, late in the game you will require an engine and a panel. That's a good time to sell the plane that you are flying for the final expensive touches that you need to get airborne in the ES From: owner-lancair-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-lancair-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of GARY PENNINGTON Sent: October-31-10 4:41 PM Subject: Re: Lancair-List: Lancair ES Hello Bill Your comments are very helpful. Thank you very much. Gary Pennington ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill <mailto:bbradburry(at)bellsouth.net> Bradburry Sent: Sunday, October 31, 2010 4:28 PM Subject: RE: Lancair-List: Lancair ES Gary, Building a plane is not just exactly like selling one and buying another.you will probably be without a plane to fly for several years if you sell then build. The best build plans have a way of life getting in the way of them. If you can get a good deal, I recommend that you find a kit partially completed and look at it very carefully to see if it is done with quality so you want have to redo anything. Good Luck! Bill B _____ From: owner-lancair-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-lancair-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of GARY PENNINGTON Sent: Sunday, October 31, 2010 4:16 PM Subject: Re: Lancair-List: Lancair ES Hello Brian Thank you so much for your response. I currently have a 1998 Piper Archer III. I just listed it for sale so I can build an ES. I'd like to sell the Archer and build an ES for the same amount of money. To keep the cost down, I would like to use an O-360, 210 horsepower engine in the ES. I'm wondering if it would perform well. Have you had any problems with the main gear legs? Any shimmy? Any fuel delivery problems or leakage? Does the plane handle well? Is it difficult to get used to the side sticks? Thanks again Brian Gary Pennington ----- Original Message ----- From: Brian Alley <mailto:n320wt(at)yahoo.com> Sent: Sunday, October 31, 2010 8:59 AM Subject: Re: Lancair-List: Lancair ES Gary, I've built one ES and have two in my shop in Ona, WV. If I can help or if you want to come by, give me a call Sent from my iPhone Brian Alley carbonfibercomposites.net 304-395-4932 On Oct 31, 2010, at 8:59 AM, "GARY PENNINGTON" wrote: Hello everyone I am thinking of building a Lancair ES. In fact, I have been evaluating a partially built kit that is for sale. I'm wondering what is the smallest engine that has been successfully used and what climb, cruise and economy that could be expected from it. Also, how well does the ES fly. Are there any little quirks with the ES that is a concern? How difficult is it to get used to the side sticks? Can anyone advise me? Thank you. Gary Pennington 3D=========================3 D=================== title='about:3D"http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Lancair-List"' href='3D"http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Lancair-List"'>http://www.matron ics.com/Navigator?Lancair-List 3D=========================3 D=================== href='3D"http://forums.matronics.com"'>http://forums.matronics.com 3D=========================3 D=================== title='about:3D"http://www.matronics.com/contribution"' href='3D"http://www.matronics.com/contribution"'>http://www.matronics.com/co ntribution 3D=========================3 D=================== http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Lancair-List http://forums.matronics.com http://www.matronics.com/contribution href="http://www.aeroelectric.com">www.aeroelectric.com title=http://www.buildersbooks.com/ href="http://www.buildersbooks.com">www.buildersbooks.com href="http://www.homebuilthelp.com">www.homebuilthelp.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/ctitle =http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Lancair-List href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Lancair-List">http://www.matronics. com/Navigator?Lancair-List href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com _______________________________________ No infections found in this outgoing message Scanned by iolo System Shield http://www.iolo.com ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Rick Titsworth" <rtitsworth2(at)mindspring.com>
Subject: Lancair ES
Date: Nov 01, 2010
Where are you located? _____ From: owner-lancair-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-lancair-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of GARY PENNINGTON Sent: Sunday, October 31, 2010 9:00 AM Subject: Lancair-List: Lancair ES Hello everyone I am thinking of building a Lancair ES. In fact, I have been evaluating a partially built kit that is for sale. I'm wondering what is the smallest engine that has been successfully used and what climb, cruise and economy that could be expected from it. Also, how well does the ES fly. Are there any little quirks with the ES that is a concern? How difficult is it to get used to the side sticks? Can anyone advise me? Thank you. Gary Pennington ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 01, 2010
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: PLEASE READ - List Fund Raiser Kickoff!
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From: "GARY PENNINGTON" <pennington(at)q.com>
Subject: Re: Lancair ES
Date: Nov 01, 2010
Tucson, Arizona ----- Original Message ----- From: Rick Titsworth<mailto:rtitsworth2(at)mindspring.com> To: lancair-list(at)matronics.com Sent: Sunday, October 31, 2010 9:16 PM Subject: RE: Lancair-List: Lancair ES Where are you located? ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- From: owner-lancair-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-lancair-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of GARY PENNINGTON Sent: Sunday, October 31, 2010 9:00 AM To: lancair-list(at)matronics.com Subject: Lancair-List: Lancair ES Hello everyone I am thinking of building a Lancair ES. In fact, I have been evaluating a partially built kit that is for sale. I'm wondering what is the smallest engine that has been successfully used and what climb, cruise and economy that could be expected from it. Also, how well does the ES fly. Are there any little quirks with the ES that is a concern? How difficult is it to get used to the side sticks? Can anyone advise me? Thank you. Gary Pennington http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Lancair-Listhttp://forums.matronics.co mhttp://www.matronics.com/contribution www.aeroelectric.com<http://www.aeroelectric.com/> www.buildersbooks.com<http://www.buildersbooks.com/> www.homebuilthelp.com<http://www.homebuilthelp.com/> http://www.matronics.com/contribution on> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Lancair-List Navigator?Lancair-List> ________________________________________________________________________________
From: BERNDSENCO(at)aol.com
Date: Nov 01, 2010
Subject: Re: Lancair ES questions (ES for sale)
Gary, I have an ES with the 210 HP IO-360 and really love the airplane. It will cruise around 170 kts at 9 gph, so it is very economical. Takes a little more runway to take off, so not good for very short strips. I live on a 2500' grass strip and I just have to make sure to take off with light loads and keep an eye on the winds and density altitude. For trips I take off light and then stop at a nearby regular airport to fill up with fuel before heading off cross country. Rate of climb with the IO-360 is less than 1000 fpm, so it takes a little longer to get to altitude. You will be much better off financially to find an ES that is already flying and buy it, rather than building one from scratch. You will have way over $200K in just parts/equipment invested in one that you build yourself, and then add to that thousands of hours of your time. It is a major undertaking and commitment. Of course, there is nothing more rewarding than flying an airplane you built yourself, but don't go into it thinking you're going to be saving money. As for the flying qualities of the ES? It is wonderful. A marvelous, stable, comfortable and quiet high speed cruising aircraft. The side sticks are completely natural and take no time getting used to. Once you fly with side sticks you will never want to go back to a conventional yoke or stick. They really free up the cockpit and give you much more room. Nothing blocking the panel, nothing between your legs to interfer with charts or anything else on your lap..... I don't know if you have looked into the costs of buying an ES kit from Lancair, but just the basic kit (fiberglass parts, gear, basic hardware, etc.) is around $90,000. Then you will need to buy the engine/prop, and associated firewall forward components ($75,000), panel and avionics and wiring/accessories ($50,000), interior finishes & accessories ($20,000), and paint ($20,000). As you can see, the numbers add up in a hurry, and it's not uncommon for you to have $300K to $400K in a well equipped and well built ES. I'm not trying to talk you out of building an ES, just pointing out the big picture. I am building a Legacy right now (my 3rd airplane project) and I love the process and experience. Just wish I had more time to devote to the project so it would move along quicker..... If you do want to participate in the building experience, but not invest the time and big $ I suggest you look at buying an ES that is partially completed, or one that is already flying but might need work to finish it out to your personal tastes. You can buy a project ES or one already flying for much less than the costs of the components. I am going to be putting my ES up for sale shortly as I have a new Cirrus Turbo that I have purchased and will not need two 4-place aircraft. My ES was professionally built in 2003 and has less than 200 hours on it as it was in storage for a number of years with no engine on it. (I had removed and sold the original TCM IO-360 with the intent of upgrading to the bigger IO-550, but that project got put on the back burner) I recently installed a 2007 Cirrus SR20 IO360 engine and prop on it and will put it back into flying status shortly. The Cirrus engine and prop only have 240 hours on them. My ES is a beautiful and well built aircraft. Has the most beautiful all leather interior I've seen in an ES. Professionally built panel with Garmin radio stack, glass panels, etc. Has won awards. I would be willing to sell the aircraft whole, with fresh annual for $150K, or would part it out selling the completed airframe, firewall forward, and panel separately if someone wanted to do a different engine configuration or different panel setup. I have available the new IO-550 ES engine mount, baffling kit, and a used IO-550 with 850 hours TT or a brand new 0-time performance rebuilt IO-550 that I could sell with the airframe also if you wanted to go with the big engine. Contact me directly if you are interested in any of the above. I live in Atlanta. Jon Berndsen 404-787-7472 In a message dated 11/1/2010 3:03:42 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, lancair-list(at)matronics.com writes: * ================================================= Online Versions of Today's List Digest Archive ================================================= Today's complete Lancair-List Digest can also be found in either of the two Web Links listed below. 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(Nicholas Paczkowski) 8. 09:24 PM - Re: Lancair ES (Rick Titsworth) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ From: "GARY PENNINGTON" <pennington(at)q.com> Subject: Lancair-List: Lancair ES Hello everyone I am thinking of building a Lancair ES. In fact, I have been evaluating a partially built kit that is for sale. I'm wondering what is the smallest engine that has been successfully used and what climb, cruise and economy that could be expected from it. Also, how well does the ES fly. Are there any little quirks with the ES that is a concern? How difficult is it to get used to the side sticks? Can anyone advise me? Thank you. Gary Pennington ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ From: "tom.on.the.road(at)juno.com" <tom.on.the.road(at)juno.com> Subject: Re: Lancair-List: Lancair ES Gary, I have a kit (mostly completed) for sale. The ES was originally designed for the Cont. 360 (210 HP).. Many were b uilt. and fly well. Some folks have put Lycomings in (6 cyl.) and they d o well too. With the IO-550, you can run lean of peak on less than 12 gph at 180-185 knots. Call, if you're interested in my kit. Tom 970-420-1798 ____________________________________________________________ Go Back to School Grant Funding May Be Available to Those Who Qualify http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4ccd756e4326c7d5f0st01vuc ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ From: Brian Alley <n320wt(at)yahoo.com> Subject: Re: Lancair-List: Lancair ES Gary, I've built one ES and have two in my shop in Ona, WV. If I can help or if you want to come by, give me a call Sent from my iPhone Brian Alley carbonfibercomposites.net 304-395-4932 On Oct 31, 2010, at 8:59 AM, "GARY PENNINGTON" wrote: > Hello everyone > > I am thinking of building a Lancair ES. In fact, I have been evaluating a p artially built kit that is for sale. > > I'm wondering what is the smallest engine that has been successfully used a nd what climb, cruise and economy that could be expected from it. > > Also, how well does the ES fly. Are there any little quirks with the ES th at is a concern? How difficult is it to get used to the side sticks? > > Can anyone advise me? > > Thank you. > Gary Pennington > > ========================= ======== ========================= ======== ========================= ======== ========================= ======== > ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ From: "GARY PENNINGTON" <pennington(at)q.com> Subject: Re: Lancair-List: Lancair ES Hello Brian Thank you so much for your response. I currently have a 1998 Piper Archer III. I just listed it for sale so I can build an ES. I'd like to sell the Archer and build an ES for the same amount of money. To keep the cost down, I would like to use an O-360, 210 horsepower engine in the ES. I'm wondering if it would perform well. Have you had any problems with the main gear legs? Any shimmy? Any fuel delivery problems or leakage? Does the plane handle well? Is it difficult to get used to the side sticks? Thanks again Brian Gary Pennington ----- Original Message ----- From: Brian Alley<mailto:n320wt(at)yahoo.com> Sent: Sunday, October 31, 2010 8:59 AM Subject: Re: Lancair-List: Lancair ES Gary, I've built one ES and have two in my shop in Ona, WV. If I can help or if you want to come by, give me a call Sent from my iPhone Brian Alley carbonfibercomposites.net<http://carbonfibercomposites.net/> 304-395-4932 On Oct 31, 2010, at 8:59 AM, "GARY PENNINGTON" > wrote: Hello everyone I am thinking of building a Lancair ES. In fact, I have been evaluating a partially built kit that is for sale. I'm wondering what is the smallest engine that has been successfully used and what climb, cruise and economy that could be expected from it. Also, how well does the ES fly. Are there any little quirks with the ES that is a concern? How difficult is it to get used to the side sticks? Can anyone advise me? Thank you. Gary Pennington 3D============== 3D============== 3D============== 3D http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Lancair-List"http://www.matro nics.com/Navigator?Lancair-List"> 3D============== 3D============== 3D============== 3D http://forums.matronics.com"http://forums.matronics.com"> 3D============== 3D============== 3D============== 3D http://www.matronics.com/contribution"http://www.matronics.com/c ontribution"> 3D============== 3D============== 3D============== 3D ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ From: "Bill Bradburry" <bbradburry(at)bellsouth.net> Subject: RE: Lancair-List: Lancair ES Gary, Building a plane is not just exactly like selling one and buying another.you will probably be without a plane to fly for several years if you sell then build. The best build plans have a way of life getting in the way of them. If you can get a good deal, I recommend that you find a kit partially completed and look at it very carefully to see if it is done with quality so you want have to redo anything. Good Luck! Bill B _____ From: owner-lancair-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-lancair-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of GARY PENNINGTON Sent: Sunday, October 31, 2010 4:16 PM Subject: Re: Lancair-List: Lancair ES Hello Brian Thank you so much for your response. I currently have a 1998 Piper Archer III. I just listed it for sale so I can build an ES. I'd like to sell the Archer and build an ES for the same amount of money. To keep the cost down, I would like to use an O-360, 210 horsepower engine in the ES. I'm wondering if it would perform well. Have you had any problems with the main gear legs? Any shimmy? Any fuel delivery problems or leakage? Does the plane handle well? Is it difficult to get used to the side sticks? Thanks again Brian Gary Pennington ----- Original Message ----- From: Brian <mailto:n320wt(at)yahoo.com> Alley Sent: Sunday, October 31, 2010 8:59 AM Subject: Re: Lancair-List: Lancair ES Gary, I've built one ES and have two in my shop in Ona, WV. If I can help or if you want to come by, give me a call Sent from my iPhone Brian Alley carbonfibercomposites.net 304-395-4932 On Oct 31, 2010, at 8:59 AM, "GARY PENNINGTON" wrote: Hello everyone I am thinking of building a Lancair ES. In fact, I have been evaluating a partially built kit that is for sale. I'm wondering what is the smallest engine that has been successfully used and what climb, cruise and economy that could be expected from it. Also, how well does the ES fly. Are there any little quirks with the ES that is a concern? How difficult is it to get used to the side sticks? Can anyone advise me? Thank you. Gary Pennington 3D=========================3 D================== title='about:3D"http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Lancair-List"' href='3D"http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Lancair-List"'>http://www.matron ics.com/Navigator?Lancair-List 3D=========================3 D================== href='3D"http://forums.matronics.com"'>http://forums.matronics.com 3D=========================3 D================== title='about:3D"http://www.matronics.com/contribution"' href='3D"http://www.matronics.com/contribution"'>http://www.matronics.com/co ntribution 3D=========================3 D================== ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ From: "GARY PENNINGTON" <pennington(at)q.com> Subject: Re: Lancair-List: Lancair ES Hello Bill Your comments are very helpful. Thank you very much. Gary Pennington ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Bradburry<mailto:bbradburry(at)bellsouth.net> Sent: Sunday, October 31, 2010 4:28 PM Subject: RE: Lancair-List: Lancair ES Gary, Building a plane is not just exactly like selling one and buying another.you will probably be without a plane to fly for several years if you sell then build. The best build plans have a way of life getting in the way of them. If you can get a good deal, I recommend that you find a kit partially completed and look at it very carefully to see if it is done with quality so you want have to redo anything. Good Luck! Bill B ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- From: owner-lancair-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-lancair-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of GARY PENNINGTON Sent: Sunday, October 31, 2010 4:16 PM Subject: Re: Lancair-List: Lancair ES Hello Brian Thank you so much for your response. I currently have a 1998 Piper Archer III. I just listed it for sale so I can build an ES. I'd like to sell the Archer and build an ES for the same amount of money. To keep the cost down, I would like to use an O-360, 210 horsepower engine in the ES. I'm wondering if it would perform well. Have you had any problems with the main gear legs? Any shimmy? Any fuel delivery problems or leakage? Does the plane handle well? Is it difficult to get used to the side sticks? Thanks again Brian Gary Pennington ----- Original Message ----- From: Brian Alley<mailto:n320wt(at)yahoo.com> Sent: Sunday, October 31, 2010 8:59 AM Subject: Re: Lancair-List: Lancair ES Gary, I've built one ES and have two in my shop in Ona, WV. If I can help or if you want to come by, give me a call Sent from my iPhone Brian Alley carbonfibercomposites.net<http://carbonfibercomposites.net/> 304-395-4932 On Oct 31, 2010, at 8:59 AM, "GARY PENNINGTON" > wrote: Hello everyone I am thinking of building a Lancair ES. In fact, I have been evaluating a partially built kit that is for sale. I'm wondering what is the smallest engine that has been successfully used and what climb, cruise and economy that could be expected from it. Also, how well does the ES fly. Are there any little quirks with the ES that is a concern? How difficult is it to get used to the side sticks? Can anyone advise me? Thank you. 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X-mailer: iolo System Shield 4.0.3.161 I endorse what Bill is saying. I am on my 10th year of building a L-IV. Life has a way.... In any event, late in the game you will require an engine and a panel. That's a good time to sell the plane that you are flying for the final expensive touches that you need to get airborne in the ES From: owner-lancair-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-lancair-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of GARY PENNINGTON Sent: October-31-10 4:41 PM Subject: Re: Lancair-List: Lancair ES Hello Bill Your comments are very helpful. Thank you very much. Gary Pennington ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill <mailto:bbradburry(at)bellsouth.net> Bradburry Sent: Sunday, October 31, 2010 4:28 PM Subject: RE: Lancair-List: Lancair ES Gary, Building a plane is not just exactly like selling one and buying another.you will probably be without a plane to fly for several years if you sell then build. The best build plans have a way of life getting in the way of them. If you can get a good deal, I recommend that you find a kit partially completed and look at it very carefully to see if it is done with quality so you want have to redo anything. Good Luck! Bill B _____ From: owner-lancair-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-lancair-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of GARY PENNINGTON Sent: Sunday, October 31, 2010 4:16 PM Subject: Re: Lancair-List: Lancair ES Hello Brian Thank you so much for your response. I currently have a 1998 Piper Archer III. I just listed it for sale so I can build an ES. I'd like to sell the Archer and build an ES for the same amount of money. To keep the cost down, I would like to use an O-360, 210 horsepower engine in the ES. I'm wondering if it would perform well. Have you had any problems with the main gear legs? Any shimmy? Any fuel delivery problems or leakage? Does the plane handle well? Is it difficult to get used to the side sticks? Thanks again Brian Gary Pennington ----- Original Message ----- From: Brian Alley <mailto:n320wt(at)yahoo.com> Sent: Sunday, October 31, 2010 8:59 AM Subject: Re: Lancair-List: Lancair ES Gary, I've built one ES and have two in my shop in Ona, WV. If I can help or if you want to come by, give me a call Sent from my iPhone Brian Alley carbonfibercomposites.net 304-395-4932 On Oct 31, 2010, at 8:59 AM, "GARY PENNINGTON" wrote: Hello everyone I am thinking of building a Lancair ES. In fact, I have been evaluating a partially built kit that is for sale. I'm wondering what is the smallest engine that has been successfully used and what climb, cruise and economy that could be expected from it. Also, how well does the ES fly. Are there any little quirks with the ES that is a concern? How difficult is it to get used to the side sticks? Can anyone advise me? Thank you. 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In fact, I have been evaluating a partially built kit that is for sale. I'm wondering what is the smallest engine that has been successfully used and what climb, cruise and economy that could be expected from it. Also, how well does the ES fly. Are there any little quirks with the ES that is a concern? How difficult is it to get used to the side sticks? Can anyone advise me? Thank you. Gary Pennington ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 01, 2010
Subject: Re: Lancair ES
From: Karoliina Salminen <karoliina.t.salminen(at)gmail.com>
Hello, I am just a lurker as I fly Diamond, not Lancair at the moment (even if the Evolution still remains my dream plane from all the kits out there), so short comment from the usual silence: > How difficult is it to get used to the side sticks? We have traditional stick in Diamond and then I have also flown with side stick Cirrus SR20 and SR22. The Cirrus side stick has pretty springy feel (which may not be the case with Lancair, Cirrus control feel is kind of unique as far as I know) which makes it not so ideal, but anyhow getting used to the side stick part took maybe the first 15 minutes of the first familiarization flight. Not very big deal. For the feel and accuracy of the control I prefer the Diamond-style stick but for the cockpit space and freedom, the side stick is very good. On our N. Atlantic crossing trip with the immersion suits on it would have been a bit more comfortable with a side stick controlled plane than it was with the Diamond. I think yoke is not to be discussed as who wants to drive with a yoke anyway. Best Regards, Karoliina http://n756ds.blogspot.com ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Rick Titsworth" <rtitsworth2(at)mindspring.com>
Subject: Lancair ES
Date: Nov 01, 2010
Cirrus is really a side yoke (not a side stick). Although it only has one "ear/handle", it still slides in/out, versus pivoting. Furthermore, Cirrus Elevator/pitch and Aileron/roll controls are all cable driven (hence the springy/sloppy feel). Side stick (Lancair/Columbia) was comfortable for me in about 10 min. I wouldn't have it any other way. Think about it this way: you're often flying with one hand anyway - Right hand on the throttle during take-off, most of approach, and doing everything else (radios, flaps, etc). -----Original Message----- From: owner-lancair-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-lancair-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Karoliina Salminen Sent: Monday, November 01, 2010 2:10 PM Subject: Re: Lancair-List: Lancair ES Hello, I am just a lurker as I fly Diamond, not Lancair at the moment (even if the Evolution still remains my dream plane from all the kits out there), so short comment from the usual silence: > How difficult is it to get used to the side sticks? We have traditional stick in Diamond and then I have also flown with side stick Cirrus SR20 and SR22. The Cirrus side stick has pretty springy feel (which may not be the case with Lancair, Cirrus control feel is kind of unique as far as I know) which makes it not so ideal, but anyhow getting used to the side stick part took maybe the first 15 minutes of the first familiarization flight. Not very big deal. For the feel and accuracy of the control I prefer the Diamond-style stick but for the cockpit space and freedom, the side stick is very good. On our N. Atlantic crossing trip with the immersion suits on it would have been a bit more comfortable with a side stick controlled plane than it was with the Diamond. I think yoke is not to be discussed as who wants to drive with a yoke anyway. Best Regards, Karoliina http://n756ds.blogspot.com ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "GARY PENNINGTON" <pennington(at)q.com>
Subject: Re: Lancair ES
Date: Nov 01, 2010
Hello Karolina/Rick It sounds like getting used to the side stick is no big thing. I have flown three airplanes with center sticks and I prefer the center stick over the yoke I now fly in my Archer III. Thanks guys Gary Pennington ----- Original Message ----- From: Rick Titsworth<mailto:rtitsworth2(at)mindspring.com> To: lancair-list(at)matronics.com Sent: Monday, November 01, 2010 1:24 PM Subject: RE: Lancair-List: Lancair ES > Cirrus is really a side yoke (not a side stick). Although it only has one "ear/handle", it still slides in/out, versus pivoting. Furthermore, Cirrus Elevator/pitch and Aileron/roll controls are all cable driven (hence the springy/sloppy feel). Side stick (Lancair/Columbia) was comfortable for me in about 10 min. I wouldn't have it any other way. Think about it this way: you're often flying with one hand anyway - Right hand on the throttle during take-off, most of approach, and doing everything else (radios, flaps, etc). -----Original Message----- From: owner-lancair-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-lancair-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Karoliina Salminen Sent: Monday, November 01, 2010 2:10 PM To: lancair-list(at)matronics.com Subject: Re: Lancair-List: Lancair ES > Hello, I am just a lurker as I fly Diamond, not Lancair at the moment (even if the Evolution still remains my dream plane from all the kits out there), so short comment from the usual silence: > How difficult is it to get used to the side sticks? We have traditional stick in Diamond and then I have also flown with side stick Cirrus SR20 and SR22. The Cirrus side stick has pretty springy feel (which may not be the case with Lancair, Cirrus control feel is kind of unique as far as I know) which makes it not so ideal, but anyhow getting used to the side stick part took maybe the first 15 minutes of the first familiarization flight. Not very big deal. For the feel and accuracy of the control I prefer the Diamond-style stick but for the cockpit space and freedom, the side stick is very good. On our N. Atlantic crossing trip with the immersion suits on it would have been a bit more comfortable with a side stick controlled plane than it was with the Diamond. I think yoke is not to be discussed as who wants to drive with a yoke anyway. Best Regards, Karoliina http://n756ds.blogspot.com> www.aeroelectric.com<http://www.aeroelectric.com/> www.buildersbooks.com<http://www.buildersbooks.com/> www.homebuilthelp.com<http://www.homebuilthelp.com/> http://www.matronics.com/contribution on> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Lancair-List Navigator?Lancair-List> ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Rick Titsworth" <rtitsworth2(at)mindspring.com>
Subject: Lancair ES
Date: Nov 02, 2010
Gary, FYI, I noticed your post was from the Yahoo Lancair site. Good site, but.. Frankly, that site is not the most followed/active. For ES info, there is a Lancair ES group here: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Lancair_ES/ 15,000 past emails, pictures, etc - all from ES builders/flyers/etc The nerve center of the ES group ;-) Rick _____ From: owner-lancair-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-lancair-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of GARY PENNINGTON Sent: Monday, November 01, 2010 6:37 PM Subject: Re: Lancair-List: Lancair ES Hello Karolina/Rick It sounds like getting used to the side stick is no big thing. I have flown three airplanes with center sticks and I prefer the center stick over the yoke I now fly in my Archer III. Thanks guys Gary Pennington ----- Original Message ----- From: Rick Titsworth <mailto:rtitsworth2(at)mindspring.com> Sent: Monday, November 01, 2010 1:24 PM Subject: RE: Lancair-List: Lancair ES Cirrus is really a side yoke (not a side stick). Although it only has one "ear/handle", it still slides in/out, versus pivoting. Furthermore, Cirrus Elevator/pitch and Aileron/roll controls are all cable driven (hence the springy/sloppy feel). Side stick (Lancair/Columbia) was comfortable for me in about 10 min. I wouldn't have it any other way. Think about it this way: you're often flying with one hand anyway - Right hand on the throttle during take-off, most of approach, and doing everything else (radios, flaps, etc). -----Original Message----- From: owner-lancair-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-lancair-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Karoliina Salminen Sent: Monday, November 01, 2010 2:10 PM Subject: Re: Lancair-List: Lancair ES Hello, I am just a lurker as I fly Diamond, not Lancair at the moment (even if the Evolution still remains my dream plane from all the kits out there), so short comment from the usual silence: > How difficult is it to get used to the side sticks? We have traditional stick in Diamond and then I have also flown with side stick Cirrus SR20 and SR22. The Cirrus side stick has pretty springy feel (which may not be the case with Lancair, Cirrus control feel is kind of unique as far as I know) which makes it not so ideal, but anyhow getting used to the side stick part took maybe the first 15 minutes of the first familiarization flight. Not very big deal. For the feel and accuracy of the control I prefer the Diamond-style stick but for the cockpit space and freedom, the side stick is very good. On our N. Atlantic crossing trip with the immersion suits on it would have been a bit more comfortable with a side stick controlled plane than it was with the Diamond. I think yoke is not to be discussed as who wants to drive with a yoke anyway. Best Regards, Karoliina http://n756ds.blogspot.com http://www.aeroelectric.com/ sp; * The Builder's Bookstore http://www.matronics.com/c Thank you for your generous <http://www.matronics.com/contribution> ; -Matt Dralle, List nbsp; Features Chat, http://www.matrop; <http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Lancair-List> via the Web title=http://forums.matronics.com/ href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com _============= ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "GARY PENNINGTON" <pennington(at)q.com>
Subject: Re: Lancair ES
Date: Nov 02, 2010
Hello Rick I accessed the site. Thanks for the info. Gary Pennington ----- Original Message ----- From: Rick Titsworth<mailto:rtitsworth2(at)mindspring.com> To: lancair-list(at)matronics.com Sent: Monday, November 01, 2010 11:55 PM Subject: RE: Lancair-List: Lancair ES Gary, FYI, I noticed your post was from the Yahoo Lancair site. Good site, but.. Frankly, that site is not the most followed/active. For ES info, there is a Lancair ES group here: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Lancair_ES/ ancair_ES/> 15,000 past emails, pictures, etc - all from ES builders/flyers/etc The nerve center of the ES group ;-) Rick ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- From: owner-lancair-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-lancair-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of GARY PENNINGTON Sent: Monday, November 01, 2010 6:37 PM To: lancair-list(at)matronics.com Subject: Re: Lancair-List: Lancair ES Hello Karolina/Rick It sounds like getting used to the side stick is no big thing. I have flown three airplanes with center sticks and I prefer the center stick over the yoke I now fly in my Archer III. Thanks guys Gary Pennington ----- Original Message ----- From: Rick Titsworth<mailto:rtitsworth2(at)mindspring.com> To: lancair-list(at)matronics.com Sent: Monday, November 01, 2010 1:24 PM Subject: RE: Lancair-List: Lancair ES > Cirrus is really a side yoke (not a side stick). Although it only has one "ear/handle", it still slides in/out, versus pivoting. Furthermore, Cirrus Elevator/pitch and Aileron/roll controls are all cable driven (hence the springy/sloppy feel). Side stick (Lancair/Columbia) was comfortable for me in about 10 min. I wouldn't have it any other way. Think about it this way: you're often flying with one hand anyway - Right hand on the throttle during take-off, most of approach, and doing everything else (radios, flaps, etc). -----Original Message----- From: owner-lancair-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-lancair-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Karoliina Salminen Sent: Monday, November 01, 2010 2:10 PM To: lancair-list(at)matronics.com Subject: Re: Lancair-List: Lancair ES > Hello, I am just a lurker as I fly Diamond, not Lancair at the moment (even if the Evolution still remains my dream plane from all the kits out there), so short comment from the usual silence: > How difficult is it to get used to the side sticks? We have traditional stick in Diamond and then I have also flown with side stick Cirrus SR20 and SR22. The Cirrus side stick has pretty springy feel (which may not be the case with Lancair, Cirrus control feel is kind of unique as far as I know) which makes it not so ideal, but anyhow getting used to the side stick part took maybe the first 15 minutes of the first familiarization flight. Not very big deal. For the feel and accuracy of the control I prefer the Diamond-style stick but for the cockpit space and freedom, the side stick is very good. On our N. Atlantic crossing trip with the immersion suits on it would have been a bit more comfortable with a side stick controlled plane than it was with the Diamond. I think yoke is not to be discussed as who wants to drive with a yoke anyway. Best Regards, Karoliina http://n756ds.blogspot.com> http://www.aeroelectric.com/ sp; * The Builder's Bookstore http://www.matronics.com/c Thank you for your generous ; -Matt Dralle, List nbsp; Features Chat, <http://www.matronics.com/contribution>http://www.matrop; via the Web title=http://forums.matronics.com/ href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com _============= www.buildersbooks.comhttp://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Lancair-Listhttp: //forums.matronics.com www.aeroelectric.com<http://www.aeroelectric.com/> www.buildersbooks.com<http://www.buildersbooks.com/> www.homebuilthelp.com<http://www.homebuilthelp.com/> http://www.matronics.com/contribution on> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Lancair-List Navigator?Lancair-List> ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Rick Titsworth" <rtitsworth2(at)mindspring.com>
Subject: Lancair ES
Date: Nov 02, 2010
Do you get to SNF or OSH? We typically have an informal ES builder/flyer dinner there (in addition to anything Lancair does). Pretty good group, and the experienced builder/flyers have been very gracious with their learning's. There's lots of help/insight available. Rick _____ From: owner-lancair-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-lancair-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of GARY PENNINGTON Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2010 7:43 AM Subject: Re: Lancair-List: Lancair ES Hello Rick I accessed the site. Thanks for the info. Gary Pennington ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "GARY PENNINGTON" <pennington(at)q.com>
Subject: Re: Lancair ES
Date: Nov 02, 2010
Hello Rick Yes, I have been to Sun-n-Fun and Oshkosh but haven't been to the Lancair events. Have a great day. Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: Rick Titsworth<mailto:rtitsworth2(at)mindspring.com> To: lancair-list(at)matronics.com Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2010 6:27 AM Subject: RE: Lancair-List: Lancair ES Do you get to SNF or OSH? We typically have an informal ES builder/flyer dinner there (in addition to anything Lancair does). Pretty good group, and the experienced builder/flyers have been very gracious with their learning's. There's lots of help/insight available. Rick ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- From: owner-lancair-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-lancair-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of GARY PENNINGTON Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2010 7:43 AM To: lancair-list(at)matronics.com Subject: Re: Lancair-List: Lancair ES Hello Rick I accessed the site. Thanks for the info. Gary Pennington www.aeroelectric.com www.buildersbooks.com<http://www.buildersbooks.com/> www.homebuilthelp.com<http://www.homebuilthelp.com/> http://www.matronics.com/contribution on> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Lancair-List Navigator?Lancair-List> ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 03, 2010
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: November List Fund Raiser
There is an automatic "squelch button" of sorts for the Fund Raiser messages. Here's how it works... As soon as a List member makes a Contribution through the Matronics Fund Raiser web site, they will instantly cease to receive these Fund Raiser messages for the rest of the month! Its just that simple. I really do appreciate each and every one of your individual Contributions to support the Lists. It is your support that enables me to upgrade the hardware and software that are required to run a List Site such as this one. It also goes to pay for the commercial-grade Internet connection and to pay the huge electric bill to keep the computer gear running and the air conditioner powered on. I run all of the Matronics Email List and Forums sites here locally which allows me to control and monitor every aspect of the system for the utmost in reliably and performance. Your personal Contribution matters because, when combined with other Listers such as yourself, it pays the bills to keep this site up and running. I accept exactly ZERO advertising dollars for the Matronics Lists sites. I can't stand the pop-up ads and all other commercials that are so prevalent on the Internet these days and I particularly don't want to have it on my Email List sites. If you appreciate the ad-free, grass-roots, down-home feel of the Matronics Email Lists, please make a Contribution to keep it that way!! http://www.matronics.com/contribution Thank you! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator [Note that there are certain circumstances where you might still see a Contribution related message. For example, if someone replies to one of the messages, when using the List Browse feature, or when accessing List message via the Forum. The system keys on the given email address and since most of these are anonymous public access methods, there is no simple way to filter them.] ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Rick Titsworth" <rtitsworth2(at)mindspring.com>
Subject: Lancair ES
Date: Nov 04, 2010
Well, stay tuned here in the days just before the shows. We'd love to have you join us. _____ From: owner-lancair-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-lancair-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of GARY PENNINGTON Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2010 8:19 PM Subject: Re: Lancair-List: Lancair ES Hello Rick Yes, I have been to Sun-n-Fun and Oshkosh but haven't been to the Lancair events. Have a great day. Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: Rick Titsworth <mailto:rtitsworth2(at)mindspring.com> Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2010 6:27 AM Subject: RE: Lancair-List: Lancair ES Do you get to SNF or OSH? We typically have an informal ES builder/flyer dinner there (in addition to anything Lancair does). Pretty good group, and the experienced builder/flyers have been very gracious with their learning's. There's lots of help/insight available. Rick _____ From: owner-lancair-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-lancair-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of GARY PENNINGTON Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2010 7:43 AM Subject: Re: Lancair-List: Lancair ES Hello Rick I accessed the site. Thanks for the info. Gary Pennington www.aeroelectric.com title=http://www.buildersbooks.com/ href="http://www.buildersbooks.com">www.buildersbooks.com href="http://www.homebuilthelp.com">www.homebuilthelp.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/ctitle =http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Lancair-List href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Lancair-List">http://www.matronics. com/Navigator?Lancair-List href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com ________________________________________________________________________________
From: SD737(at)aol.com
Date: Nov 04, 2010
Subject: Re: Lancair ES
Any word on the "Reichel" Trim Wheel for the Lancair 360 that someone out there was fabricating? In a message dated 11/4/2010 11:23:36 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, rtitsworth2(at)mindspring.com writes: Well, stay tuned here in the days just before the shows. We=99d lov e to have you join us. ____________________________________ From: owner-lancair-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-lancair-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of GARY PENNING TON Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2010 8:19 PM Subject: Re: Lancair-List: Lancair ES Hello Rick Yes, I have been to Sun-n-Fun and Oshkosh but haven't been to the Lancair events. Have a great day. Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: _Rick Titsworth_ (mailto:rtitsworth2(at)mindspring.com) Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2010 6:27 AM Subject: RE: Lancair-List: Lancair ES Do you get to SNF or OSH? We typically have an informal ES builder/flyer dinner there (in addition to anything Lancair does). Pretty good group, and the experienced builder/flyers have been very gracious with their learning's. There's lots of help/insight available. Rick ____________________________________ From: _owner-lancair-list-server(at)matronics.com_ (mailto:owner-lancair-list-server(at)matronics.com) [mailto:owner-lancair-l ist-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of GARY PENNINGTON Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2010 7:43 AM Subject: Re: Lancair-List: Lancair ES Hello Rick I accessed the site. Thanks for the info. Gary Pennington www.aeroelectric.com title=http://www.buildersbooks.com/ href="http://www.buildersbooks.com">www.buildersbooks.com href="http://www.homebuilthelp.com">www.homebuilthelp.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/ct itle =http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Lancair-List href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Lancair-List">http://www.matron ics.com/Navigator?Lancair-List href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com www.buildersbooks.com http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Lancair-List http://forums.matronics.com ======================== ============ (http://www.aeroelectric.com/) (http://www.buildersbooks.com/) (http://www.homebuilthelp.com/) (http://www.matronics.com/contribution) ======================== ============ (http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Lancair-List) ======================== ============ ======================== ============ ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 05, 2010
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Reminder
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Date: Nov 07, 2010
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Please Make A Contribution To Support Your Lists
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Date: Nov 09, 2010
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Coming Soon - The List of Contributors - Please Make A Contribution
Today! Each year at the end of the List Fund Raiser, I post a message acknowledging everyone that so generously made a Contribution to support the Lists. Its my way of publicly thanking everyone that took a minute to show their appreciation for the Lists. Please take a moment and assure that your name is on that List of Contributors (LOC)! As a number of members have pointed out over the years, the List seems at least as valuable a building / entertainment tool as your typical magazine subscription! Assure that your name is on this year's LOC! Show others that you appreciate the Lists. Making a Contribution to support the Lists is fast and easy using your Credit card or Paypal on the Secure Web Site: http://www.matronics.com/contribution or by dropping a personal check in the mail to: Matt Dralle / Matronics 581 Jeannie Way Livermore CA 94550 I would like to thank everyone that has so generously made a Contribution thus far in this year's List Fund Raiser! Remember that its YOUR support that keeps these Lists going and improving! Don't forget to include a little comment about how the Lists have helped you! Best regards, Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Rick Titsworth" <rtitsworth2(at)mindspring.com>
Subject: RE: Fingertip Pulse Oximeters
Date: Nov 10, 2010
FYI, I received and briefly tested the $27 version below (running on the stair master). It seems to work fine. Can't distinguish a difference from my prior $100 one. Still waiting on the $36 one. _____ From: Rick Titsworth [mailto:rtitsworth2(at)mindspring.com] Sent: Saturday, October 30, 2010 1:03 AM Subject: Fingertip Pulse Oximeters FYI, for any of us looking for relatively inexpensive fingertip pulse oximeters see: $27 <http://www.amazon.com/Contec-CMS50L-Fingertip-Pulse-Oximeter/dp/B002BUYSDC/ ref=sr_1_2?tag=slickdeals&ie=UTF8&qid=1288343793&sr=8-2> http://www.amazon.com/Contec-CMS50L-Fingertip-Pulse-Oximeter/dp/B002BUYSDC/r ef=sr_1_2?tag=slickdeals&ie=UTF8&qid=1288343793&sr=8-2 or $36 <http://www.amazon.com/Finger-Pulse-Oximeter-SM-110-Carry-Wrist/dp/B003TJH3L I/ref=sr_1_1?tag=slickdeals&ie=UTF8&qid=1288343793&sr=8-1> http://www.amazon.com/Finger-Pulse-Oximeter-SM-110-Carry-Wrist/dp/B003TJH3LI /ref=sr_1_1?tag=slickdeals&ie=UTF8&qid=1288343793&sr=8-1 Don't know the difference. Just ordered one of each and will report back in a couple weeks. RickT ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 11, 2010
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Please Support The Lists...
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Date: Nov 13, 2010
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Please Make A Contribution...
Dear Listers, A quick reminder that November is the annual List Fund Raiser. The Matronics Lists are 100% member supported and all of the operational costs are provided for my your Contributions during this time of the year. Your personal Contribution makes a big difference and keeps all of the Matronics Email Lists and Forums completely ad-free. Please make your Contribution today to keep these services up and running! http://www.matronics.com/contribution Thank you in advance! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List and Forum Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 15, 2010
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: List Fund Raiser & Some Very Nice Comments...
Dear Listers, I've been getting some really nice comments from Listers along with their List Support Contributions. I've shared some of them below. Please read them over and see what your fellow Listers think of the Lists and Forums. Please make a Contribution today to support the continued upgrade and operation of these services. There are lots of sweet gifts available, so browse the extensive selection and pickup a nice item along with your qualifying Contribution. Contribution Web Site: http://www.matronics.com/contribution Or drop a personal check in the mail to: Matt Dralle / Matronics 581 Jeannie Way Livermore CA 94550 Thank you in advance for your generous support! It is very much appreciated! Best regards, Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ------------------------------------------------------- You are providing a great service. Thanks so very much. David L Keep up the good work! A great website - wish I'd found it earlier! Bob S Thanks for providing a site for information. Jim S Thanks again for providing a great service to our community! Alex M Thanks and keep up the good work! Robert B. Great forum! David S Thanks for providing the Kolb List for the last 12 years. John H Long time lurker, it's a great resource...many thanks. Ian C Your work and effort are greatly appreciated. Nicolas L Thank you very much for keeping the list going! Svein J Thank you for your support to the community. Valin T I am a long time subscriber and a slow builder because of work and two moves, but still enjoy the process and your list. CL M Thanks for providing this service. It can't be beat! Thomas W I'm no longer a builder or flier but I like to keep in touch with the List - which is the best organised list I've seen on the Internet. Gerry C Matt, you are doing a GREAT service to the community of KOLB Builders and Flyers. John B I've been flying for almost two years and still find these Lists as a great resource for information.....now I get to answer a question once-in-a-while too. Ralph C Thanks for this great service. Dale E I couldn't keep on building without the support I get from this List. Thomas S This is a great service to all of us. Michael W I am no longer actively building, but I really like to keep up with what's going on, and I especially like to follow Bob Nuckolls - and your RV-8. Terrence W I really appreciate your work and consider the lists to be a great value. Christopher R Thanks Matt for a great resource! Geoff T Many thanks for providing this service. I love it. William V One of the best Internet Deals going... Owen B Thanks for the great site. Danny S A valuable resource. George A Thanks for running a great list. Ted P ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 15, 2010
From: rfreeman505(at)comcast.net
Subject: Re: List Fund Raiser & Some Very Nice Comments...
hi matt pls change my address to: bobbyfreeman505(at)gmail.com thanks, bobby ----- Original Message ----- From: "Matt Dralle" <dralle(at)matronics.com> Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 1:28:15 AM Subject: Lancair-List: List Fund Raiser & Some Very Nice Comments... Dear Listers, I've been getting some really nice comments from Listers along with their L ist Support Contributions. =C2-I've shared some of them below. =C2-Plea se read them over and see what your fellow Listers think of the Lists and F orums. Please make a Contribution today to support the continued upgrade and opera tion of these services. There are lots of sweet gifts available, so browse the extensive selection and pickup a nice item along with your qualifying Contribution. 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Date: Nov 15, 2010
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Re: Subscription Update
No problem. Complete as requested. Matt At 06:40 AM 11/15/2010 Monday, you wrote: >hi matt > >pls change my address to: > > > >bobbyfreeman505(at)gmail.com > > > >thanks, > >bobby > > > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Matt Dralle" <dralle(at)matronics.com> >To: lancair-list(at)matronics.com >Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 1:28:15 AM >Subject: Lancair-List: List Fund Raiser & Some Very Nice Comments... > > >Dear Listers, > >I've been getting some really nice comments from Listers along with their List Support Contributions. I've shared some of them below. Please read them over and see what your fellow Listers think of the Lists and Forums. > >Please make a Contribution today to support the continued upgrade and operation of these services. > >There are lots of sweet gifts available, so browse the extensive selection and pickup a nice item along with your qualifying Contribution. > >Contribution Web Site: > > http://www.matronics.com/contribution > >Or drop a personal check in the mail to: > > Matt Dralle / Matronics > 581 Jeannie Way > Livermore CA 94550 > >Thank you in advance for your generous support! It is very much appreciated! > >Best regards, > >Matt Dralle >Matronics Email List Administrator > > >------------------------------------------------------- > >You are providing a great service. Thanks so very much. > David L > >Keep up the good work! A great website - wish I'd found it earlier! > Bob S > >Thanks for providing a site for information. > Jim S > >Thanks again for providing a great service to our community! > Alex M > >Thanks and keep up the good work! > Robert B. > >Great forum! > David S > >Thanks for providing the Kolb List for the last 12 years. > John H > >Long time lurker, it's a great resource...many thanks. > Ian C > >Your work and effort are greatly appreciated. > Nicolas L > >Thank you very much for keeping the list going! > Svein J > >Thank you for your support to the community. > Valin T > >I am a long time subscriber and a slow builder because of >work and two moves, but still enjoy the process and your >list. > CL M > >Thanks for providing this service. It can't be beat! > Thomas W > >I'm no longer a builder or flier but I like to keep in touch with >the List - which is the best organised list I've seen on the Internet. > Gerry C > >Matt, you are doing a GREAT service to the community of KOLB >Builders and Flyers. > John B > >I've been flying for almost two years and still find these Lists as a great >resource for information.....now I get to answer a question once-in-a-while too. > Ralph C > >Thanks for this great service. > Dale E > >I couldn't keep on building without the support I get from this List. > Thomas S > >This is a great service to all of us. > Michael W > >I am no longer actively building, but I really like to keep up with what's >going on, and I especially like to follow Bob Nuckolls - and your RV-8. > Terrence W > >I really appreciate your work and consider the lists to be a great value. > Christopher R > >Thanks Matt for a great resource! > Geoff T > >Many thanks for providing this service. I love it. > William V > >One of the best Internet Deals going... > Owen B > >Thanks for the great site. > Danny S > >A valuable resource. > George A > >Thanks for running a great list. > Tbsp; ======================= > > Matt G Dralle | Matronics | 581 Jeannie Way | Livermore | CA | 94550 925-606-1001 V | 925-606-6281 F | dralle(at)matronics.com Email http://www.matronics.com/ WWW | Featuring Products For Aircraft ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 17, 2010
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: What's My Contribution Used For?
Dear Listers, Some have asked, "What's my Contribution used for?" and that's a good question. Here are just a few examples of what your direct List support enables. It provides for the very expensive, commercial-grade T1 Internet connection used on the List insuring maximum performance and minimal contention when accessing List services. It pays for the regular system hardware and software upgrades enabling the highest performance possible for services such as the Archive Search Engine, List Browser, and Forums. It pays for narly 20 years (yeah, I really said *20* years) worth of online archive data available for instant random search and access. And, it offsets the many hours spent writing, developing, and maintaining the custom applications that power this List Service such as the List Browse, Search Engine, Forums, and Wiki. But most importantly, your List Contribution enables a forum where you and your peers can communicate freely in an environment that is free from moderation, censorship, advertising, commercialism, SPAM, and computer viruses. How many places on the Internet can you make all those statements these days? It is YOUR CONTRIBUTION that directly enables these many aspects of these valuable List services. Please support it today with your List Contribution. Its one of the best investments you can make in your Sport... List Contribution Web Site: http://www.matronics.com/contribution Or drop a personal check in the mail to: Matt Dralle / Matronics 581 Jeannie Way Livermore CA 94550 Thank you for your support! Matt Dralle Email List Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 19, 2010
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Just A Few Days Left; Well Behind Last Year...
Dear Listers, There are just a few more days left of this year's List Fund Raiser. Response has been good so far, but we're well behind last year at this point. If you've been waiting until the last minute to make your Contribution, now might be good time to show your support and maybe pick up a nice gift as well! Please remember that there is no commercial advertising on these Lists and the *only* means of keeping them running is through your Contributions during this Fund Raiser. If it weren't for your individual Contributions, these Lists could easily become economically infeasible and simply cease to exist. You probably can't even take the family out to dinner for $20 these days, but your individual Contribution of the same amount makes a huge difference in keeping the List services alive. Please make a Contribution today with a Credit Card or Paypal: http://www.matronics.com/contribution Or, drop a personal check in the mail to: Matt Dralle / Matronics 581 Jeannie Way Livermore CA 94550 Thank you! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 21, 2010
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Make Sure You're Listed! List of Contributors Published
in December! Dear Listers, The List of Contributors (LOC) is just around the corner! In December I post a list of everyone that so generously made a Contribution to support the Lists. Its my way of publicly thanking everyone that took a minute to show their appreciation for the Lists. Won't you take minute and assure that your name is on the upcoming LOC? Tell others that you appreciate the Lists. Making a Contribution to support the Lists is fast and easy using your Visa, MasterCard, or Paypal account: http://www.matronics.com/contribution Or, drop a personal check in the mail to: Matt Dralle / Matronics 581 Jeannie Way Livermore CA 94550 USA I would like to thank everyone that has so generously made a Contribution thus far during this year's List Fund Raiser! Remember that its YOUR support that keeps these Lists running and improving! Don't forget to include a little comment about how the Lists have helped you! Thank you! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 22, 2010
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Contributions Down By 17%...
Dear Listers, As of today, Contributions to the Matronics List Fund Raiser are lagging behind last year at this time by roughly 17%. I have a Fund Raiser each year simply to cover my operating costs for the Lists. I *do not* accept any advertising income to support the Lists and rely solely on the Contributions of members to keep the expenses paid. I run all of my own servers and they are housed here locally, and the Internet connection is a commercial-grade, T1 connection with public address space. I also maintain a full backup system that does nightly backups of all List-related data so that in the event of a server crash or worse, all of the Lists and the many years of List archive data could be restored onto a new server in a matter of hours. All of this costs a fair amount of money, not to mention a significant amount of my personal time. I have a Fund Raiser each year to cover these costs and I ask that members that feel they receive a benefit from my investments make a modest Contribution each year to support the continued operation and upgrade of these services. If you enjoy the Lists, please make a Contribution today. I also offer some incentive gifts for larger Contribution levels. At the Contribution Web Wite, you can use a credit card, Paypal, or personal check to show your support for the continuation of these services: http://www.matronics.com/contribution Or, drop a personal check in the mail to: Matt Dralle / Matronics 581 Jeannie Way Livermore CA 94550 USA Thank you for your support! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 24, 2010
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Just A Few More Days To Make Your List Contribution...
There is less than a week left in this year's List Fund Raiser and only a few short days to grab one of the great Contribution Gifts available this year. Support is still significantly lagging behind last year at this point but hopefully it will pick up here towards the end. Please remember that it is solely the Contributions of List members that keeps the Lists up and running as there is no commercialism or advertising on the Matronics Lists and Forums. The List Contribution web site is secure, fast, and easy and you can use a credit card, Paypal, or a personal check: http://www.matronics.com/contribution Or, drop a personal check in the mail to: Matt Dralle / Matronics 581 Jeannie Way Livermore CA 94550 USA I want to thank everyone that has already made a generous contribution to support the Lists! Thank you! Matt Dralle Matronics EMail List and Forum Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 25, 2010
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: What Are You Thankful For...?
Dear Listers, Here in the United States, Thursday is our National day of Thanksgiving. Many of us will be traveling to be with our families and friends to share in generous feasts of plenty and giving thanks for the many blessings that have been bestowed upon us. Many Listers have expressed over the last couple of weeks how thankful they are for the Email Lists and Forums here on the Matronics servers and for all of the assistance and comradery they have experienced being a part of the Lists. One of my favorite comments is when someone writes to me and says something like, "Its the first thing I do in the morning while I'm having my morning coffee!". That's a wonderful tribute to the purpose and function of these Lists. Its always great to hear I'm not the only one that jumps out of bed each morning to check my List email!! Won't you take a minute today and show your appreciation for these Lists and for their continued operation and upgrade? The List Contribution Site is: http://www.matronics.com/contribution Or, drop a personal check in the mail to: Matt Dralle / Matronics 581 Jeannie Way Livermore CA 94550 USA Thank you in advance for your kind consideration, Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 27, 2010
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: No "Black Friday" For List Fund Raiser...
Dear Listers, Curiously, even though the number of List subscriptions are significantly up this year, support during this year's Fund Raiser is still substantially behind last year. There are only a couple more days left in November and the end of the Fund Raiser is quickly approaching. I have always preferred a non-commercial List experience as many, many members have also expressed that they do as well. However, if the yearly fund raiser cannot generate sufficient funds to keep the bills paid, other sources of income might be required including some sort of advertising. Please don't let that happen! Your personal Contribution of $20 or $30 goes a long ways to keeping the operation a float. Please make sure your name is on this year's List of Contributors published in December. The Contribution site is secure, quick, and easy: http://www.matronics.com/contribution Or, drop a personal check in the mail to: Matt Dralle / Matronics 581 Jeannie Way Livermore CA 94550 USA Thank you in advance for your support! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List and Forum Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 28, 2010
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Just Three Days Left & Some Very Nice Comments...
Dear Listers, There are just three days left in this year's List Fund Raiser. Won't you take a monment and make a quick Contribution today to support the continued upgrade and operation of these Forum services. I've received some more really nice comments from Listers along with their List Support Contributions, and I've share a few below. There are some sweet gifts available this year, so browse the selections and pickup a nice item along with your qualifying Contribution. Contribution Web Site: http://www.matronics.com/contribution Or drop a personal check in the mail to: Matt Dralle / Matronics 581 Jeannie Way Livermore CA 94550 USA Thank you in advance for your generous support! It is very much appreciated! Best regards, Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ------------------------------------------------------- Great resource, keep it coming... Marten V. Thanks for maintaining these essential lists! Rumen D. Great Service! Douglas D. Thanks for this great service! Peter T. Thanks for your enduring support of homebuilding communications! Daniel M. You do a great job and provide a valuable service. Mark B. It's really a great source I have used a lot. Robert K. Reading the RV-10 list is part of my morning routine... Perry C. Great job running these lists. Edward T. Thanks for doing a tough job. Mic T. Your List was such a great resource for me when I built in "98". Ron V. Its a very useful forum. Dave F. Really enjoy your list... William D. Great service, Gerald T. The list still is a valuable source of information and there are many worthwhile postings. Graham H. The list has seen me through an RV-9A, RV-10, and now an RV-12. Albert G. Thanks for a great resource! Barry H. Thank you for maintaining this excellent site. Bill W. The Matronics Email list are an invaluable service. William C. I appreciate the RV-10 list. Vijay P. Thanks for a great list and all of the work you do. Ian W. Thanks for keeping up this very useful list. George R. The list is excellent and I find it very handy for any problems I come up against during construction. Greg W. The lists are an important part of my day. I've met lots of people and made lots of friends. Dave S. It's really a great source I haved used a lot. Robert K. I read the Pietenpol List everyday. PF B. ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 29, 2010
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Make Sure You're Listed!
Dear Listers, The List of Contributors (LOC) is just around the corner with just two more days in this year's Fund Raiser! Later in December I will post a list of everyone that so generously made a Contribution to support the Lists this year. Its my way of publicly thanking everyone that took a minute to show their appreciation for the Lists. Won't you take minute and assure that your name is on the upcoming LOC? Tell others that you appreciate the Lists. Making a Contribution to support the Lists is fast and easy using your Visa, MasterCard, or Paypal account: http://www.matronics.com/contribution Or, by dropping a personal check in the mail to: Matt Dralle / Matronics 581 Jeannie Way Livermore CA 94550 I would like to thank everyone that has so generously made a Contribution thus far during this year's List Fund Raiser! Remember that its YOUR support that keeps these Lists running and improving! Thank you! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: FS Fine Wire Spark Plugs
From: "dmaib(at)me.com" <dmaib(at)me.com>
Date: Nov 29, 2010
I have six Auburn HSR-83P fine wire spark plugs for sale. All are new, never installed or used. One tube has been opened to inspect the plug and the other five tubes are still sealed from the factory. $40 each plus shipping. If you want all six, I will pay shipping anywhere in the US. -------- David Maib RV-10 #40559 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=321577#321577 ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 30, 2010
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: [Please Read] - Last Official Day of List Fund Raiser!
Dear Listers, Its November 30th and that means at least two things. For better or worse, its my 47th birthday! But it also means that its that last official day of the Matronics Email List Fund Raiser! If you been drooling over one of the really nice gifts that are available this year with a qualifying Contribution, then now is the time to jump on one!! If you've been meaning to make a Contribution this month but have been putting it off for some reason, NOW is the time! I will be posting the List of Contributors in a few days, so you'll probably want to be known as a person that supported the Lists! I want to thank everyone that has so generously made a Contribution this year in support of our Lists. It is your generosity that keeps this operation running and I don't ever forget it. Hopefully everyone feels the same. The List Contribution Web Site is fast and easy. Please support our habit by making your Contribution right now: http://www.matronics.com/contribution Or, by dropping a personal check in the mail to: Matt Dralle / Matronics 581 Jeannie Way Livermore CA 94550 Thank you to all in advance! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Dec 14, 2010
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: 2010 List of Contributors
Dear Listers, The 2010 Matronics Email List and Forum Fund Raiser officially ended a couple of weeks ago and its time that I publish this year's List of Contributors. Its the people on this list that directly make the Email Lists and Forums possible. Their generous contributions keep the servers and Internet connection up and running. You can still show your support this year and pick up a great gift at the same time. The Contribution Web Site is fast, easy, and secure: http://www.matronics.com/contribution Or, by dropping a personal check in the mail to: Matt Dralle / Matronics 581 Jeannie Way Livermore CA 94550 I also want to thank Bob, Jon, and Andy for their generous support through the supply of great gifts this year!! These guys have some great products and I encourage you to visit their respective web sites: Bob Nucklolls - AeroElectric - www.aeroelectric.com Jon Croke - HomebuiltHELP - www.homebuilthelp.com Andy Gold - The Builder's Bookstore - www.buildersbooks.com And finally, I'm proud to present The 2010 Fund Raiser List of Contributors: http://www.matronics.com/loc/2010.html Thanks again to everyone that made a Contribution this year!! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List and Forum Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Nicholas Paczkowski" <npaczkowski(at)telus.net>
Subject: Engine choice for Lancair IV
Date: May 19, 2011
I am ready to hang an engine on my L-IV project (not-pressurized) and am agonizing over the choice of engine. I have a good grasp on the problems with the Enginair V8 conversions a few years ago but is there ANYONE out there who has successfully hung one of the GM LS V8 engines on a Lancair IV (or Legacy). Alternatively is there anyone who has unsuccessfully done so and is willing to talk about it. Thanks ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: May 19, 2011
Subject: Re: Engine choice for Lancair IV
From: tom.on.the.road(at)juno.com
I saw a v-8 on an ES a few years ago at Copperstate, but haven't heard any more about it. ____________________________________________________________ Groupon™ Official Site 1 ridiculously huge coupon a day. Get 50-90% off your city's best! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4dd5442c366074fb75ast05vuc ________________________________________________________________________________
From: <longg(at)pjm.com>
Subject: Engine choice for Lancair IV
Date: May 19, 2011
This one resulted in a fatal. http://dms.ntsb.gov/aviation/AccidentReports/npzuvf45ret2vj45f0g3gn45/O05192011120000.pdf There was an IV for sale on Trade-A-Plane a few months back - sorry no link available. The guy at what used to be Vesta Propeller was building one with his prop. Highly doubt that was ever finished. A close second is the Wheeler Express guy who crashed and burned in a Texas field a few years back. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ln3BUn3rIQQ If you like to tinker this may be fun - don't do it if you really want to buy gas and go flying. Glenn E. Long -----Original Message----- From: owner-lancair-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-lancair-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of tom.on.the.road(at)juno.com Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2011 12:23 PM Subject: Re: Lancair-List: Engine choice for Lancair IV I saw a v-8 on an ES a few years ago at Copperstate, but haven't heard any more about it. ____________________________________________________________ Groupon™ Official Site 1 ridiculously huge coupon a day. Get 50-90% off your city's best! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4dd5442c366074fb75ast05vuc ________________________________________________________________________________
From: <longg(at)pjm.com>
Subject: Engine choice for Lancair IV
Date: May 19, 2011
Here's a picture of the wheeler. The person who took it doesn't know a Chevy from a Ford from a Lancair or Wheeler. http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2690353160000448860dXnrBN Glenn E. Long -----Original Message----- From: owner-lancair-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-lancair-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of tom.on.the.road(at)juno.com Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2011 12:23 PM Subject: Re: Lancair-List: Engine choice for Lancair IV I saw a v-8 on an ES a few years ago at Copperstate, but haven't heard any more about it. ____________________________________________________________ Groupon™ Official Site 1 ridiculously huge coupon a day. Get 50-90% off your city's best! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4dd5442c366074fb75ast05vuc ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: May 20, 2011
From: pennington(at)q.com
Subject: Re: Engine choice for Lancair IV
There is a guy at Marana Regional Airport just North of Tucson, Arizona who installed=C2-a Corvette V8 in his ES. I just spoke to him and looked at his plane last week. He purchased a new "crate engine" from Chevy for a tot al price of $6,000.00. Much cheaper than=C2- a Continental IO 550N. I am currently building an ES and the Continentals are really expensive....like over $40,000.00!!!=C2- He said that the Chevy is heavy on the nose, (of c ourse), and because of that, he approaches with more speed across the numbe rs. He is using a composite, electrically operated variable pitch prop. Don 't know the brand. His biggest problem was cooling, so, he installed anothe r radiator below the firewall, (on the bottom of the plane), =C2-and buil t a scoop for air intake. It looks a little odd but solved the over heating problem. He uses non-leaded auto fuel without any problems. There are no m ixture adjustments....the computer does that for you. He has over 600 hours on the plane and seems to like it. Hope this helps. Gary Pennington ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nicholas Paczkowski" <npaczkowski(at)telus.net> Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2011 7:40:33 AM Subject: Lancair-List: Engine choice for Lancair IV I am ready to hang an engine on my L-IV project (not-pressurized) and am ag onizing over the choice of engine. I have a good grasp on the problems with the Enginair V8 conversions a few years ago but is there ANYONE out there who has successfully hung one of the GM LS V8 engines on a Lancair IV (or L egacy). Alternatively=C2-is there anyone who has unsuccessfully done so a nd is willing to talk about it. =C2- Thanks =C2- =C2- ============ == ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jun 27, 2011
From: Douglas Raupp <hubbafam1(at)sbcglobal.net>
Subject: Re: Lancair-List Digest: 0 Msgs - 06/26/11
Please unsubscribe me from list ----- Original Message ---- From: Lancair-List Digest Server <lancair-list(at)matronics.com> Sent: Mon, June 27, 2011 1:59:35 AM Subject: Lancair-List Digest: 0 Msgs - 06/26/11 * ================================================= Online Versions of Today's List Digest Archive ================================================= Today's complete Lancair-List Digest can also be found in either of the two Web Links listed below. The .html file includes the Digest formatted in HTML for viewing with a web browser and features Hyperlinked Indexes and Message Navigation. The .txt file includes the plain ASCII version of the Lancair-List Digest and can be viewed with a generic text editor such as Notepad or with a web browser. HTML Version: http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=html&Chapter 11-06-26&Archive=Lancair Text Version: http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=txt&Chapter 11-06-26&Archive=Lancair =============================================== EMail Version of Today's List Digest Archive =============================================== ---------------------------------------------------------- Lancair-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sun 06/26/11: 0 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jun 27, 2011
From: Douglas Raupp <hubbafam1(at)sbcglobal.net>
Subject: Re: Lancair-List Digest: 0 Msgs - 06/26/11
Please unsubscribe me from list ----- Original Message ---- From: Lancair-List Digest Server <lancair-list(at)matronics.com> Sent: Mon, June 27, 2011 1:59:35 AM Subject: Lancair-List Digest: 0 Msgs - 06/26/11 * ================================================= Online Versions of Today's List Digest Archive ================================================= Today's complete Lancair-List Digest can also be found in either of the two Web Links listed below. The .html file includes the Digest formatted in HTML for viewing with a web browser and features Hyperlinked Indexes and Message Navigation. The .txt file includes the plain ASCII version of the Lancair-List Digest and can be viewed with a generic text editor such as Notepad or with a web browser. HTML Version: http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=html&Chapter 11-06-26&Archive=Lancair Text Version: http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=txt&Chapter 11-06-26&Archive=Lancair =============================================== EMail Version of Today's List Digest Archive =============================================== ---------------------------------------------------------- Lancair-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sun 06/26/11: 0 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: LANCAIR Aircraft
From: "kevinmckown(at)aol.com" <Kevinmckown(at)aol.com>
Date: Aug 29, 2011
I am looking for A lower Cowl For a Turbine Lancair 4-P. The Cowl I am looking for is the one that is used with the SMALL Billy Tank!! If you Have this or any thing Please Let me know Kevinmckown(at)aol.com 505-450-4401 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=350963#350963 ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Aug 29, 2011
From: George Rosel <rosel_george(at)yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: LANCAIR Aircraft
Sorry Kevin ... I don't have any of these parts. I think we talked last wee k. ... George George F. Rosel Click here to view my webpage: http://www.vrbo.com/254739 The Lodge at Timberline ... ski-in/ski-out luxury home is for RENT 2431 Lilac Dr. Liberal, Ks. 67901 620-624-8849 office 620-624-9409 fax 620-655-8217 cell .. or...... 8907 Green Meadows Dr. Littleton, Co. 80126 303-975-6629 office/fax --- On Mon, 8/29/11, kevinmckown(at)aol.com wrote: From: kevinmckown(at)aol.com <Kevinmckown(at)aol.com> Subject: Lancair-List: LANCAIR Aircraft Date: Monday, August 29, 2011, 5:49 PM com> I am looking for A lower Cowl For a Turbine Lancair 4-P. The Cowl I am looking for is the one that is used with the SMALL Billy Tank !! If you Have this or any thing Please Let me know Kevinmckown(at)aol.com 505-450-4401 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=350963#350963 le, List Admin. ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Sep 29, 2011
From: Steve Eberhart <steve(at)newtech.com>
Subject: Wings and Wheels Fly-In and Cruise-In
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Date: Sep 30, 2011
From: Steve Eberhart <steve(at)newtech.com>
Subject: Wings and Wheels Fly-In/Cruise-In
Join us for our first annual *Wings and Wheels Fly-In/Cruise-In* http://www.eaa21.org October 15, 2011 Tri-State Aero Parking Lot on US 41 and General Aviation Ramp Evansville Regional Airport (EVV) Evansville, Indiana 10:00 AM to 3:00 PM Awards Presentation at 2:00 PM Doesn't matter if you're cruising on LAND, WATER or AIR... Just cruise on in /where we're making flying fun again!/ Free Admission Food Booths Travel and Vacation Vendors Military, General Aviation and Experimental Aircraft Displays Fly-In, Cruise-In Meet the Pilots and Drivers Door Prizes & 1/2 Pot Great Music with DJ Dance Exhibitions - E'ville Swing Cats Awards for Airplanes and Cruisers Awards to the Top 25 Award For Best Home-Built Electric Vehicle Commemorative Vinyl Decals to All Fly-In and Cruise-In Vehicles ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Sep 30, 2011
From: cloudvalley(at)comcast.net
Subject: Re: Wings and Wheels Fly-In and Cruise-In
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Date: Oct 12, 2011
From: Steve Eberhart <steve(at)newtech.com>
Subject: Wings and Wheels Fly-In/Cruise-In
Join us for our first annual *Wings and Wheels Fly-In/Cruise-In* http://www.eaa21.org October 15, 2011 Tri-State Aero Parking Lot on US 41 and General Aviation Ramp Evansville Regional Airport (EVV) Evansville, Indiana 10:00 AM to 3:00 PM Awards Presentation at 2:00 PM Doesn't matter if you're cruising on LAND, WATER or AIR... Just cruise on in /where we're making flying fun again!/ Free Admission Food Booths Travel and Vacation Vendors Military, General Aviation and Experimental Aircraft Displays Fly-In, Cruise-In Meet the Pilots and Drivers Door Prizes & 1/2 Pot Great Music with DJ Dance Exhibitions - E'ville Swing Cats Awards for Airplanes and Cruisers Awards to the Top 25 Award For Best Home-Built Electric Vehicle Commemorative Vinyl Decals to All Fly-In and Cruise-In Vehicles ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 01, 2011
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: PLEASE READ - 2011 List Fund Raiser Kickoff - 21 Years Strong!!
Dear Listers, This year marks 21 years of the Email Lists and Forums at Matronics! I've been running these forums for nearly half my life! I've made some great friends over the years and had countless email and personal conversations with builders about aircraft building and flying. What a great community of people! The advice, support, and friendship has be invaluable over the years. To support the continued operation and upgrade of the List servers, each November I hold a PBS-like fund raiser. It is solely through the Contributions of List members that these Matronics Lists are possible. There is NO advertising to support the Lists. You might have noticed the conspicuous lack of flashing banners and annoying pop-ups on the Matronics Email List email messages and web site pages including: * Matronics List Forums http://forums.matronics.com * Matronics List Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search * Matronics List Browser http://www.matronics.com/listbrowse * Matronics List List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com You don't find advertising on any of these pages because I believe in a List experience that is completely about the sport we all enjoy - airplanes! During the month of November, I will be sending out List messages every couple of days reminding everyone that the Fund Raiser is underway. I ask for your patience and understanding during the Fund Raiser and throughout these regular messages. The Fund Raiser is only financial support mechanism I have to pay all of the bills associated with running these Lists. Your personal Contribution counts! Once again, this year we've got another terrific line up of free gifts to go along with the various Contribution levels. Many of these gifts have been provided by some of the vary members and vendors that you'll find on Matronics Lists and they have been either donated or provided at substantially discounted rates. This year, these generous people include: * Bob Nuckolls of the AeroElectric Connection http://www.aeroelectric.com * Andy Gold of the Builder's Bookstore http://www.buildersbooks.com These are extremely generous guys and I encourage you to visit their respective web sites. Each one offers a unique and very useful aviation-related product line. I would like publicly to thank Bob, and Andy for their generous support of the Lists again this year!! You can make your List Contribution using any one of three secure methods including using a credit card, PayPal, or by personal check. All three methods afford you the opportunity to select one of this year's free gifts with a qualifying Contribution amount!! To make your Contribution, please visit the secure site below: http://www.matronics.com/contribution I would like to thank everyone in advance for their generous financial AND moral support over the years! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator RV-8 Builder (and Rebuilder) and Flyer RV-6 Rebuilder and Flyer RV-4 Builder ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 01, 2011
Subject: Re: PLEASE READ - 2011 List Fund Raiser Kickoff - 21 Years
Strong!!
From: Walter Fellows <walter.fellows(at)gmail.com>
Matt Please unsubscribe me from all lists (Lancair and Aeroelectric). I have tried the procedure given on the website twice and I am still getting the emails. Walter Fellows On Tue, Nov 1, 2011 at 6:46 AM, Matt Dralle wrote: > > Dear Listers, > > This year marks 21 years of the Email Lists and Forums at Matronics! I've > been running these forums for nearly half my life! I've made some great > friends over the years and had countless email and personal conversations > with builders about aircraft building and flying. What a great community > of people! The advice, support, and friendship has be invaluable over the > years. > > To support the continued operation and upgrade of the List servers, each > November I hold a PBS-like fund raiser. It is solely through the > Contributions of List members that these Matronics Lists are possible. > There is NO advertising to support the Lists. You might have noticed the > conspicuous lack of flashing banners and annoying pop-ups on the Matronics > Email List email messages and web site pages including: > > * Matronics List Forums http://forums.matronics.com > > * Matronics List Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search > > * Matronics List Browser > http://www.matronics.com/listbrowse > > * Matronics List List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com > > You don't find advertising on any of these pages because I believe in a > List experience that is completely about the sport we all enjoy - airplanes! > > During the month of November, I will be sending out List messages every > couple of days reminding everyone that the Fund Raiser is underway. I ask > for your patience and understanding during the Fund Raiser and throughout > these regular messages. The Fund Raiser is only financial support > mechanism I have to pay all of the bills associated with running these > Lists. Your personal Contribution counts! > > Once again, this year we've got another terrific line up of free gifts to > go along with the various Contribution levels. Many of these gifts have > been provided by some of the vary members and vendors that you'll find on > Matronics Lists and they have been either donated or provided at > substantially discounted rates. > > This year, these generous people include: > > * Bob Nuckolls of the AeroElectric Connection > http://www.aeroelectric.com > > * Andy Gold of the Builder's Bookstore > http://www.buildersbooks.com > > These are extremely generous guys and I encourage you to visit their > respective web sites. Each one offers a unique and very useful > aviation-related product line. I would like publicly to thank Bob, and > Andy for their generous support of the Lists again this year!! > > You can make your List Contribution using any one of three secure methods > including using a credit card, PayPal, or by personal check. All three > methods afford you the opportunity to select one of this year's free gifts > with a qualifying Contribution amount!! > > To make your Contribution, please visit the secure site below: > > http://www.matronics.com/contribution > > I would like to thank everyone in advance for their generous financial AND > moral support over the years! > > Matt Dralle > Matronics Email List Administrator > RV-8 Builder (and Rebuilder) and Flyer > RV-6 Rebuilder and Flyer > RV-4 Builder > > ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 03, 2011
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Please Support The Lists...
Dear Listers, Just a reminder that November is the Matronics Email List Fund Raiser month. There are some very nice incentive gifts to choose from as well! Please make your Contribution today at: http://www.matronics.com/contribution or by dropping a personal check in the mail to: Matt Dralle / Matronics 581 Jeannie Way Livermore CA 94550 Thank you! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 03, 2011
From: George Rosel <rosel_george(at)yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Please Support The Lists...
To whom concerned,=0A=0APlease unsubscribe me from this list!!=0A=0AThank Y ou,=0A=0A... George=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A-=0AGeorge F. Rosel=0AClick here to vie w my webpage:http://www.vrbo.com/254739=0A=0AThe Lodge at Timberline ... sk i-in/ski-out luxury home is for RENT=0A=0A2431 Lilac Dr.=0ALiberal, Ks. 679 01=0A620-624-8849 office=0A620-624-9409 fax=0A620-655-8217 cell .. or...... =0A=0A8907 Green Meadows Dr.=0ALittleton, Co. 80126=0A303-975-6629 office/f ax=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0AFrom: Matt Dralle <dralle@mat ronics.com>=0ATo: lancair-list(at)matronics.com=0ASent: Thursday, November 3, 2011 1:09 AM=0ASubject: Lancair-List: Please Support The Lists... =0A=0A--> Lancair-List message posted by: Matt Dralle =0A=0ADe ar Listers,=0A=0AJust a reminder that November is the Matronics Email List Fund Raiser month.- There are some very nice incentive gifts to choose fr om as well! =0A=0APlease make your Contribution today at:- =0A=0A- - - - http://www.matronics.com/contribution=0A=0Aor by dropping a persona l check in the mail to: =0A=0A- - - - Matt Dralle / Matronics =0A - - - - 581 Jeannie Way =0A- - - - Livermore CA 94550=0A=0A Thank you!=0A=0AMatt Dralle=0AMatronics Email List Administrator=0A=0A=0A - - - - - - - - - - - - - -Matt Dralle, List Adm ===== ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 05, 2011
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Fund Raiser List of Contributors - Please Make A Contribution
Today! Each year at the end of the List Fund Raiser, I post a message acknowledging everyone that so generously made a Contribution to support the Lists. Its sort of my way of publicly thanking everyone that took a minute to show their appreciation for the Lists. Won't you take a moment and assure that your name is on that List of Contributors (LOC)? As a number of members have pointed out over the years, the List seems at least - if not a whole lot more - valuable as a building/flying/recreating/entertainment tool as your typical magazine subscription! Please take minute and assure that your name is on this year's LOC! Show others that you appreciate the Lists. Making a Contribution to support the Lists is fast and easy using your Credit card or Paypal on the Secure Web Site: http://www.matronics.com/contribution or by dropping a personal check in the mail to: Matt Dralle / Matronics 581 Jeannie Way Livermore CA 94550 I would like to thank everyone that has so generously made a Contribution thus far in this year's List Fund Raiser! Remember that its YOUR support that keeps these Lists going and improving! Don't forget to include a little comment about how the Lists have helped you! Best regards, Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 07, 2011
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Make A List Contribution - It's Your Personal Squelch Button...
There is an automatic "squelch button" of sorts for the Fund Raiser messages. Here's how it works... As soon as a List member makes a Contribution through the Matronics Fund Raiser web site, their email address is automatically added to this year's Contributor List and they instantly cease to receive further Fund Raiser messages for the rest of the month! Its just that simple! :-) I really do appreciate each and every one of your individual Contributions to support the Lists. It is your support that enables me to upgrade the hardware and software that are required to run a List Site such as this one. It also goes to pay for the commercial-grade Internet connection and to pay the huge electric bill to keep the computer gear running and the air conditioner powered on. I run all of the Matronics Email List and Forums sites here locally which allows me to control and monitor every aspect of the system for the utmost in reliably and performance. Your personal Contribution matters because, when combined with other Listers such as yourself, it pays the bills to keep this site up and running. I accept exactly ZERO advertising dollars for the Matronics Lists sites. I can't stand the pop-up ads and all other commercials that are so prevalent on the Internet these days and I particularly don't want to have it on my Email List sites. If you appreciate the ad-free, grass-roots, down-home feel of the Matronics Email Lists, please make a Contribution to keep it that way!! http://www.matronics.com/contribution Thank you! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator [Note that there are certain circumstances where you might still see a Contribution related message. For example, if someone replies to one of the messages, when using the List Browse feature, or when accessing List message via the Forum. The system keys on the given email address and since most of these are anonymous public access methods, there is no simple way to filter them.] ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 09, 2011
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Reminder
Dear Listers, Just a quick reminder that November is the annual List Fund Raiser. The Matronics Lists are 100% member supported and all of the operational costs are provided for my your Contributions during this time of the year. Your personal Contribution makes a difference and keeps all of the Matronics Email Lists and Forums completely ad-free. Please make your Contribution today to keep these services up and running! http://www.matronics.com/contribution Thank you in advance! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List and Forum Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 11, 2011
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Please Make A Contribution To Support Your Lists
Dear Listers, There is no advertising income to support the Matronics Email Lists and Forums. The operation is supported 100% by your personal Contributions during the November Fund Raiser. Please make your Contribution today to support the continued operation and upgrade of these services. You can pick up a really nice gift for making your Contribution too! You may use a Credit Card or Paypal at the Matronics Contribution Site here: http://www.matronics.com/contribution or, you can send a personal check to the following address: Matronics / Matt Dralle 581 Jeannie Way Livermore, CA 94550 Thank you in advance for your generous support! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List and Forum Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 13, 2011
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Make Sure You're Listed! List of Contributors Published
in December! Dear Listers, The List of Contributors (LOC) is just around the corner! In December I post a list of everyone that so generously made a Contribution to support the Lists. Its my way of publicly thanking everyone that took a minute to show their appreciation for the Lists. Won't you take minute and assure that your name is on the upcoming LOC? Tell others that you appreciate the Lists. Making a Contribution to support the Lists is fast and easy using your Visa, MasterCard, or Paypal account: http://www.matronics.com/contribution Or, drop a personal check in the mail to: Matt Dralle / Matronics 581 Jeannie Way Livermore CA 94550 USA I would like to thank everyone that has so generously made a Contribution thus far during this year's List Fund Raiser! Remember that its YOUR support that keeps these Lists running and improving! Don't forget to include a little comment about how the Lists have helped you! Thank you! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 15, 2011
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: What's Your Contribution Used For?
Dear Listers, You might have wondered at some pointd, "What's my Contribution used for?" Here are just a few examples of what your direct List support enables... It provides for the expensive, commercial-grade Internet connection used on the List. It pays for the regular system hardware and software upgrades enabling the highest performance possible for List services such as the Archive Search Engine, List Browser, and the Web Forums. It pays for over 21 years (yeah, I really said *21* years) worth of on line archive data available for instant search and access. And, it offsets the many hours spent writing, developing, and maintaining the custom applications that power this List Service such as the List Browse, Search Engine, Forums, and Wiki. But most importantly, your List Contribution enables a forum where you and your peers can communicate freely in an environment that is free from moderation, censorship, advertising, commercialism, SPAM, and computer viruses. It is YOUR CONTRIBUTION that directly enables these aspects of Matronics List services. Please support it today with your List Contribution. Its one of the best investments you can make in your Sport! List Contribution Web Site: http://www.matronics.com/contribution or, you can send a personal check to the following address: Matronics / Matt Dralle 581 Jeannie Way Livermore, CA 94550 Thank you for your support! Matt Dralle Email List Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 17, 2011
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Please Support The Lists...
Dear Listers, Just a reminder that November is the Matronics Email List Fund Raiser month. There are some very nice incentive gifts to choose from as well! Your Contributions alone keep these services up and running. Please make your Contribution today at: http://www.matronics.com/contribution or by dropping a personal check in the mail to: Matt Dralle / Matronics 581 Jeannie Way Livermore CA 94550 Thank you! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 19, 2011
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: The Value of a Forum...
If you look forward to checking your List email everyday (and a lot of you have written to say that you do!), then you're probably getting at least $20 or $30 worth of Entertainment from the Lists each year. You'd pay twice that for a subscription to some magazine or even a dinner out. Arn't the Lists worth at least that much to you? Wouldn't it be great if you could pay that same amount and get a well-managed media source free of advertising, SPAM, and viruses? Come to think of it, you do... Won't you take a minute to make your Contribution today and support YOUR Lists? Please make a Contribution today at: http://www.matronics.com/contribution or by dropping a personal check in the mail to: Matt Dralle / Matronics 581 Jeannie Way Livermore CA 94550 Again, I want to say THANK YOU to everyone that has made a Contribution thus far during this year's List Fund Raiser!! These Lists are made possible exclusively through YOUR generosity!! Thank you for your support! Matt Dralle Email List Admin. ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 21, 2011
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Make Sure You're Listed -- List of Contributors Published
Dec 1! Dear Listers, The List of Contributors (LOC) is just around the corner! On December 1st I post a list of everyone that so generously made a Contribution to support the Lists. Its my way of publicly thanking everyone that took a minute to show their appreciation for the Lists. As a number of people have pointed out in their Contribution comments, the Lists are a whole lot more valuable than your typical magazine subscription! Won't you take minute and assure that your name is on the upcoming LOC? Tell others that you appreciate the Lists. Making a Contribution to support the Lists is fast and easy using your Visa, MasterCard, or Paypal account: http://www.matronics.com/contribution Or, by dropping a personal check in the mail to: Matronics / Matt Dralle 581 Jeannie Way Livermore CA 94550 I would like to thank everyone that has so generously made a Contribution thus far during this year's List Fund Raiser! Remember that its YOUR support that keeps these Lists running and improving! Don't forget to include a little comment about how the Lists have helped you! Thank you! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 23, 2011
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Contributions Down By 20%...
Dear Listers, As of today, Contributions to the Matronics List Fund Raiser are lagging behind last year at this time by roughly 20%. I have a Fund Raiser each year simply to cover my operating costs for the Lists. I *do not* accept any advertising income to support the Lists and rely solely on the Contributions of members to keep the expenses paid. I run all of my own servers and they are housed here locally, and the Internet connection is a commercial-grade, T1 connection with public address space. I also maintain a full backup system that does nightly backups of all List-related data so that in the event of a server crash, all of the Lists and the many years of List archive data could be restored onto a new server in a matter of hours. All of this costs a fair amount of money, not to mention a significant amount of my personal time. I have a Fund Raiser each year to cover these costs and I ask that members that feel they receive a benefit from my investments make a modest Contribution each year to support the continued operation and upgrade of these services. If you enjoy the Lists, please make a Contribution today. I also offer some incentive gifts for larger Contribution levels. At the Contribution Web Site, you can use a credit card, Paypal, or personal check to show your support for the continuation of these services: http://www.matronics.com/contribution Or, drop a personal check in the mail to: Matt Dralle / Matronics 581 Jeannie Way Livermore CA 94550 Thank you for your support! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 25, 2011
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Just A Few More Days To Make Your List Contribution...
There is less than a week left in this year's List Fund Raiser and only a few short days to grab one of the great Contribution Gifts available this year. Support is still significantly lagging behind last year at this point but hopefully it will pick up here towards the end. Please remember that it is solely the Contributions of List members that keeps the Lists up and running as there is no commercialism or advertising on the Matronics Lists and Forums. The List Contribution web site is secure, fast, and easy and you can use a credit card, Paypal: http://www.matronics.com/contribution Or, drop a personal check in the mail to: Matt Dralle / Matronics 581 Jeannie Way Livermore CA 94550 I want to thank everyone that has already made a generous contribution to support the Lists! Thank you! Matt Dralle Matronics EMail List and Forum Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 27, 2011
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Please Make A Contribution Today...
Dear Listers, A quick reminder that November is the annual List Fund Raiser and the List of Contributors is quickly approching. The Matronics Lists are 100% member supported and all of the operational costs are provided for by your Contributions during this time of the year. Your personal Contribution makes a big difference and keeps all of the Matronics Email Lists and Forums completely ad-free. Please make your Contribution today to keep these services up and running! http://www.matronics.com/contribution or by dropping a personal check in the mail to: Matt Dralle / Matronics 581 Jeannie Way Livermore CA 94550 Thank you in advance! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List and Forum Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 29, 2011
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Just Two Days Left - Still Way Behind...
Dear Listers, There are just two more days left in this years List Fund Raiser. Over the last few weeks I have received some really nice comments from members on what the Lists have meant to them. I have included some of them below. Please read over the comments and ponder on your own feelings about the Lists and the support and camaraderie you have found here. We are still way behind last year in terms of the number of contributions. I really want to keep providing these services to the homebuilt community, but it take resources. Since there's no advertising budget or deep pockets to keep the operation a float, its solely your generosity during the Fund Raiser that keeps things going. Please make a Contribution today. If you've been putting off showing your support for the Lists, now is the time to do it! Make a contribution with a Credit Card or though PayPal at that Matronics Contribution web site: http://www.matronics.com/contribution Or, drop a check in the mail: Matronics / Matt Dralle 581 Jeannie Way Livermore, CA 94550 Thank you in advance for your support! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ==================== A Few List Member Comments ===================== I get a lot of useful information and satisfaction from belonging to your groups. Somehow you foster a great sense of community without the baggage that accompanies other lists. Dave S. We do appreciate you running the lists spam and advertising free. Jeff P. I am celebrating my first flight day and you and the lists deserve a thanks since without it my build would have taken twice as long. Chris L. I enjoy the list. Have my morning coffee with it! Buddy M. Your lists are the best investment of my time and money, bar none, when it comes to interfacing with my fellow amateur builders. Owen B. Keep it going!! Thanks for taking over. Wallace J. I enjoy the Pietenpol List a lot. Malcolm Z. Thanks for your great site! As a new CJ-6 owner, your web site is an invaluable resource. Ken B. Great informational source. Fred S. Thanks for doing this! Lance G. Thank you for the service i do enjoy the many hours I use on line with the banter/ serious technical items. Noel G. Thanks for the years of builder support. Roy H. Great forum! Roger C. Thank you VERY MUCH, Matt, for carrying on with this great service. The "Europa" community really appreciates it. All the best, Svein - now celebrating 10 years as a subscriber, I think! Svein J. Matt, I'm building a much nicer and safer airplane because of your efforts. Robert D. 21 years for you 9 years for me on the Zenith lists. Could not imagine building and flying without Matronics. Brian U. Thanks for ALL the hard work and time you put into maintaining these forums. As an EAA Tech counselor I recommend them often. Paul M. This Pietenpol list is a huge part of the motivation that keeps me working on my project. This has been a great place for meeting like minded folks and getting help for the difficult parts. Thomas S. Thanks for the excellent service Matt. Frank S. Matt, I'm a Sonex building, but I have to say that the Piet group is without a doubt the most interesting. Ken M. I can't tell you how much I appreciate the Piet List. This is one of my sanity lifelines! Daniel H. Your site has provided us over the years with excellent connections to others for advice. Good job! Bob M. Kolb List is my #1 source! Henry V. Matt, you do a great job with this site. I've been with it since the beginning! John M. I am very grateful for all of your excellent work on the List. Arthur L. Thank you for the service you provide us all! Nicholas C. ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 30, 2011
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: [Please Read] - Last Official Day of List Fund Raiser!
Dear Listers, Its November 30th and that means a couple of things. Its my birthday again, 48 of them, in fact! But it also means that its that last official day of the Matronics Email List Fund Raiser! If you been jones'n over one of those really nice incentive gifts now is the time to jump on one!! If you've been meaning to make a Contribution this month but have been putting it off for some reason, NOW is the time! I will be posting the List of Contributors in a few days, so you'll probably want to be known as a person that supported the Lists! I want to thank everyone that has so generously made a Contribution this year in support of our Lists. It is your generosity that keeps this operation running and I don't ever forget it. Hopefully everyone feels the same. Below are a few more of the nice comments from Listers I've received this year. Please read them over and see if you don't agree. The List Contribution Web Site is fast and easy. Please support our habit by making your Contribution right now: http://www.matronics.com/contribution Or, by dropping a personal check in the mail to: Matt Dralle / Matronics 581 Jeannie Way Livermore CA 94550 Thank you to all in advance! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ==================== A Few More List Member Comments ===================== I never would have ended up with the great flying airplane I have without the help of people on the Pietenpol list. Thanks for giving us the medium to communicate our questions, tips and suggestions. Matt P. Thanks for the hard work and maintaining the site commercial free. Good luck for the future and this site has been a source of great friendship. Peter B. It is a great resource. Jim G. Thanks so much for your continuing support of the homebuilt community. Gerald A. You are doing an outstanding job running the list's. Keep it going. Bill V. Thanks for keeping this valuable information source going. Best of all the forums. George A. Another Great year on the RV-List! Thomas E. Still the best source of information (& opinion) for builders on a wide range of issues. Martin H. Matt, thanks for hosting and maintaining the lists! Rumen D. It is a great resource. Bryan R. Thanks for your continuing interest in Van's RV8 kitplanes. Peter C. I'm no longer building or flying but like to keep in touch with the current generation of builders. Best wishes to a great list system. Gerry C. A great list that is most useful for builders. Graham H. Thanks for this wonderful tool! Ralph C. Thanks for a great service to the experimental aviation community. Douglas D. Great topics and loads of useful info keep the subject matter relevant. George H. Thanks for keeping this going. Richard R. Great facility and well managed. Victor F. Thanks for a great service. John D. Thank you for you time and efforts they have made Aviation a better place for everyone. Jim W. I still enjoy getting the list in the morning. Don M. You provide a great resource. David M. You have probably saved a few necks over the years. Robert F. Thank you for being there. Benjamin B. You perform a great service. Bruce M. Thank you for providing this invaluable resource. William D. ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Dec 04, 2011
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Hardware Failure - Matronics Web Servers Currently Offline
failure and is currently not available. Replacement hardware has been ordered and should arrive on Tuesday 12/6/2011. All services should be restored shortly there after. During the outage, the Matronics Forums, Wiki, and other web-based List services will NOT be available. However, during the outage, all normal EMAIL based sevices WILL be available so you may continue to post messages to the various lists without an issue. I am so sorry for any inconvenience this web server outage has caused... Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Dec 07, 2011
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Matronics Web Services Restored!
Dear Listers, web services have been fully restored including the Web Forums, List Browse, Archive Search, Wiki, and AeroElectric web sites. It was quite an ordeal getting the replacement boards for the server, but things went back together tonight and are up and running nicely. The first company I ordered the boards from originally called me a day later to say that, whoops, they really didn't have them in stock after all... Fortunately, I was able to locate some through a different source and had then over-nighted and they arrived today. Thank you for your patience and consideration though the whole thing! The List Contribution web site is also back on line for those wishing to make a donation to the effort: http://www.matronics.com/contribution Best regards, Matt Dralle Matronics List Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Dec 19, 2011
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: 2011 List of Contributors
Dear Listers, The 2011 Matronics Email List and Forum Fund Raiser officially ended a couple of weeks ago and its time that I publish this year's List of Contributors. Its the people on this list that directly make the Email Lists and Forums possible. Their generous contributions keep the servers and Internet connection up and running! You can still show your support this year and pick up a great gift at the same time. The Contribution Web Site is fast, easy, and secure: http://www.matronics.com/contribution Or, by dropping a personal check in the mail to: Matt Dralle / Matronics 581 Jeannie Way Livermore CA 94550 I also want to thank Bob, Jon, and Andy for their generous support through the supply of great gifts this year!! These guys have some great products and I encourage you to visit their respective web sites: Bob Nucklolls - AeroElectric - http://www.aeroelectric.com Jon Croke - HomebuiltHELP - http://www.homebuilthelp.com Andy Gold - The Builder's Bookstore - http://www.buildersbooks.com And finally, I'm proud to present The 2011 Fund Raiser List of Contributors: http://www.matronics.com/loc/2011.html Thanks again to everyone that made a Contribution this year!! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List and Forum Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Apr 27, 2012
From: Steve Eberhart <steve(at)newtech.com>
Subject: First Saturday Fly-Ins at KEHR
Our EAA Chapter's Saturday Fly-ins, known as EAA 21 Club, were such a roaring success the past two years - We are going to do it again. We will be preparing Hamburgers, Brats and NATHANS FAMOUS Hot Dogs for all that fly in. Just as New York's 21 Club has become known as the HAPPENING PLACE to be and be seen, EAA 21 Club is the place to be on the first Saturday of each month. When: May 5, June 2, July 7, August 4, September 1, October 6, 2012 10:00 AM till 2:00 PM Central time. Where: Henderson Kentucky City-County Airport (KEHR) If KEHR is VFR then we will be cooking the best Gourmet Burgers, Brats and Dogs this side of Sporty's. EAA 21 Club is expanding. Watch for the announcement about our new Third Saturday Fly-Ins at EVV ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Stephen Smalley" <ssmalley(at)tds.net>
Subject: RE: Lancair-List Digest: 0 Msgs - 05/06/12
Date: May 07, 2012
Please remove this email from your list. ssmalley(at)tds.net Thank you, Steve Smalley -----Original Message----- From: owner-lancair-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-lancair-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Lancair-List Digest Server Sent: Monday, May 07, 2012 3:00 AM Subject: Lancair-List Digest: 0 Msgs - 05/06/12 * ================================================= Online Versions of Today's List Digest Archive ================================================= Today's complete Lancair-List Digest can also be found in either of the two Web Links listed below. The .html file includes the Digest formatted in HTML for viewing with a web browser and features Hyperlinked Indexes and Message Navigation. The .txt file includes the plain ASCII version of the Lancair-List Digest and can be viewed with a generic text editor such as Notepad or with a web browser. HTML Version: http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=html&Chapter 12-05-06&Archive=Lancair Text Version: http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=txt&Chapter 2012-05-06&Archive=Lancair =============================================== EMail Version of Today's List Digest Archive =============================================== ---------------------------------------------------------- Lancair-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sun 05/06/12: 0 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: May 31, 2012
From: Steve Eberhart <steve(at)newtech.com>
Subject: First Saturday Fly-Ins at KEHR, Henderson, KY
Our EAA 21 Club Fly-Ins now include Saturday Matinee at the Movies. This month watch "Strategic Air Command" at 1:00 pm, with free popcorn, in the air-conditioned FBO conference room We will be preparing Hamburgers, Brats and NATHANS FAMOUS Hot Dogs for all that fly in. Just as New York's 21 Club has become known as the HAPPENING PLACE to be and be seen, EAA 21 Club is the place to be on the first Saturday of each month. When: June 2, July 7, August 4, September 1, October 6, 2012 10:00 AM till 2:00 PM Central time. Where: Henderson Kentucky City-County Airport (KEHR) If KEHR is VFR then we will be cooking the best Gourmet Burgers, Brats and Dogs this side of Sporty's. EAA 21 Club is expanding. Watch for the announcement about our new Third Saturday Fly-Ins at EVV Be sure to stop by our web site for information about Evansville's World Class Air Show June 9th and 10th, 2012 http://www.eaa21.org ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jul 05, 2012
From: Steve Eberhart <steve(at)newtech.com>
Subject: First Saturday Fly-Ins at KEHR, Henderson, KY
Our EAA 21 Club Fly-Ins now include Saturday Matinee at the Movies, with free popcorn, in the air-conditioned FBO conference room We will be preparing Hamburgers, Brats and NATHANS FAMOUS Hot Dogs for all that fly in. Just as New York's 21 Club has become known as the HAPPENING PLACE to be and be seen, EAA 21 Club is the place to be on the first Saturday of each month. When: July 7, August 4, September 1, October 6, 2012 10:00 AM till 2:00 PM Central time. Where: Henderson Kentucky City-County Airport (KEHR) If KEHR is VFR then we will be cooking the best Gourmet Burgers, Brats and Dogs this side of Sporty's. EAA 21 Club is expanding. Watch for the announcement about our new Third Saturday Fly-Ins at EVV Be sure to stop by our web site for information about Evansville's World Class Air Show June 9th and 10th, 2012 http://www.eaa21.org ________________________________________________________________________________
From: <longg(at)pjm.com>
Subject: First Saturday Fly-Ins at KEHR, Henderson, KY
Date: Jul 06, 2012
Steve - you may want to start by fixing the denial of service on your EAA w ebsite. Looks like a nice event. Not specific to Lancair but I might need 1 to get there. We discussed the movie concept at EAA 240 but gathered littl e interest. http://www.eaa240.org/ Good Luck, Glenn Long From: owner-lancair-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-lancair-list-se rver(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Steve Eberhart Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2012 10:07 PM Subject: Lancair-List: First Saturday Fly-Ins at KEHR, Henderson, KY Our EAA 21 Club Fly-Ins now include Saturday Matinee at the Movies, with fr ee popcorn, in the air-conditioned FBO conference room We will be preparing Hamburgers, Brats and NATHANS FAMOUS Hot Dogs for all that fly in. Just as New York's 21 Club has become known as the HAPPENING PLACE to be an d be seen, EAA 21 Club is the place to be on the first Saturday of each mo nth. When: July 7, August 4, September 1, October 6, 2012 10:00 AM till 2:00 PM Central time. Where: Henderson Kentucky City-County Airport (KEHR) If KEHR is VFR then we will be cooking the best Gourmet Burgers, Brats and Dogs this side of Sporty's. EAA 21 Club is expanding. Watch for the announcement about our new Third S aturday Fly-Ins at EVV Be sure to stop by our web site for information about Evansville's World Cl ass Air Show June 9th and 10th, 2012 http://www.eaa21.org ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Aug 03, 2012
From: Steve Eberhart <steve(at)newtech.com>
Subject: First Saturday Fly-Ins at KEHR, Henderson, KY
We will be preparing Hamburgers, Brats and NATHANS FAMOUS Hot Dogs for all that fly in. Just as New York's 21 Club has become known as the HAPPENING PLACE to be and be seen, EAA 21 Club is the place to be on the first Saturday of each month. When: August 4, September 1, October 6, 2012 10:00 AM till 2:00 PM Central time. Where: Henderson Kentucky City-County Airport (KEHR) If KEHR is VFR then we will be cooking the best Gourmet Burgers, Brats and Dogs this side of Sporty's. http://www.eaa21.org ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Oct 24, 2012
Subject: Aircraft Specialty
From: Aircraft Specialty <aircraftspecialty(at)gmail.com>
Good evening fellow builders, pilots and enthusiasts. I want to take this opportunity to introduce Aircraft Specialty. We have been working the last few months on developing a web presence and already count a lot of you as customers and friends. Our mission is simple=85..we want to help fellow builders out by building a nd selling the highest quality products at the best prices with excellent customer service. We will do whatever it takes to earn your business and make sure that you are a satisfied customer not just in the days and weeks after your purchase, but forever. Also, we know that your time is extremely valuable, so we have tried to make our web site extremely user friendly. We have developed several interactive applications to simplify some things. For instance, if you need a data plate or are looking to have your fuel caps engraved, you can input all the data on our website exactly as you would like it to appear, add it to your cart and purchase without having to email back and forth to get set up. We also have developed an interactive pricing application to let you design and price custom fuel lines or battery cables right on the website and order with our interactive application. It=92s never been easier. We have also been diligently working on new products to enhance the experience of builders. We are extremely excited to announce the =93Signature Series=94 line of parts to the community. Anything with this logo on it is something that we manufacture in house. It is of the highest quality and also carries our limited lifetime warranty. We have some very unique items, such as our Aftermarket Flap handle, which not only looks great and is easy to install, but also solves a problem that plagues many toggle switches. Our won=92t rotate with the toggle and as such provides a great looking alternative to a standard toggle switch at a price that is cheaper than any other flap shaped switch. We also have a unique, great looking alternate static system that will integrate with the SafeAir1 system, and also eventually our own pitot static system that we are developing. Since we have extremely low overhead and make many of the parts in house, we are able to offer incredible pricing. This also holds true on our clecos and bucking bars. We have been able to secure great pricing due to high volume purchases and rather than keeping our already low prices the same, we have lowered them to pass the savings on to our customers. You can take a look at all of our products by remembering one of three website names. We can be found at www.aircraftspecialty.com, www.kitplanemods.com, or www.kitplanehoses.com. All three domains will take you to the same place. Finally, as a fellow builder, I would like to let everyone know that this business will evolve around YOUR needs. I really welcome comments as well as any constructive criticism that you may have. I definitely welcome the creativity of the homebuilding community and would like to help develop new products that you are interested in. This will benefit the entire community in the long run. If you run into any website issues, please let me know as we are still a small but rapidly growing company and do all our IT in house and will do our best to resolve it Thank you for your time, and we look forward to earning your business. Steve and Dawn steve(at)aircraftspecialty.com ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 01, 2012
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: PLEASE READ - Matronics Email List Fund Raiser During November!
Dear Listers, Each November I hold a PBS-like fund raiser to support the continued operation and upgrade of the Email List and Fourm Services at Matronics. It's through solely through the Contributions of List members that these Matronics Lists are possible. You have probably noticed that there are no banner ads or pop-up windows on any of the Matronics Lists or related web sites such as the Forums site http://forums.matronics.com , Wiki site http://wiki.matronics.com , or other related pages such as the List Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search , List Browse http://www.matronics.com/listbrowse , etc. This is because I believe in a List experience that is completely about the sport we all enjoy - namely Airplanes and not about annoying advertisements. During the month of November I will be sending out List messages every couple of days reminding everyone that the Fund Raiser is underway. I ask for your patience and understanding during the Fund Raiser and throughout these regular messages. The Fund Raiser is only financial support mechanism I have to pay all of the bills associated with running these lists. Your personal Contribution counts! Once again, this year I've got a terrific line up of free gifts to go along with the various Contribution levels. Most all of these gifts have been provided by some of the vary members and vendors that you'll find on Matronics Lists and have been either donated or provided at substantially discounted rates. This year, these generous people include: Bob Nuckolls of the AeroElectric Connection http://www.aeroelectric.com Andy Gold of the Builder's Bookstore http://www.buildersbooks.com Jon Croke of HomebuiltHELP http://www.homebuilthelp.com These are very generous guys and I encourage you to visit their respective web sites. Each one offers a unique and very useful aviation-related product line. I would like publicly to thank Bob, Andy, and Jon for their generous support of the Lists again this year!! Please make your List Contribution using any one of three secure methods including using a credit card, PayPal, or by personal check. All three methods afford you the opportunity to select one of this year's free gifts with a qualifying Contribution amount!! To make your Contribution, please visit the secure site: http://www.matronics.com/contribution I would like to thank everyone in advance for their generous financial AND moral support over the years! Thank you for your support! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator RV-4/RV-6/RV-8 Builder/Rebuilder/Pilot ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 01, 2012
From: William Dean <billoves2fly(at)yahoo.com>
Subject: Auto Response
My father, William Dean (Bill) has passed away. We are monitoring this email and will reply to you if appropriate. If you were a friend of his or family that keeps up with him on email, and we have not reached out to you and given you the news, please forgive us. It was sudden and we are dealing with a lot at this time. The Dean Family ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 03, 2012
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Please Make A Contribution To Support Your Lists
Dear Listers, There is no advertising income to support the Matronics Email Lists and Forums. The operation is supported 100% by your personal Contributions during the November Fund Raiser. Please make your Contribution today to support the continued operation and upgrade of these services. You can pick up a really nice gift for making your Contribution too! You may use a Credit Card or Paypal at the Matronics Contribution Site here: http://www.matronics.com/contribution or, you can send a personal check to the following address: Matronics / Matt Dralle 581 Jeannie Way Livermore, CA 94550 Thank you in advance for your generous support! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List and Forum Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 05, 2012
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Coming Soon - The List of Contributors - Please Make A Contribution
Today! Each year at the end of the List Fund Raiser, I post a message acknowledging everyone that so generously made a Contribution to support the Lists. Its my way of publicly thanking everyone that took a minute to show their appreciation for the Lists. Please take a moment and assure that your name is on that List of Contributors (LOC)! As a number of members have pointed out over the years, the List seems at least as valuable a building / entertainment tool as your typical magazine subscription! Make sure that your name is on this year's LOC! Show others that you appreciate the Lists. Making a Contribution to support the Lists is fast and easy using your Credit card or Paypal on the Secure Web Site: http://www.matronics.com/contribution or by dropping a personal check in the mail to: Matt Dralle / Matronics 581 Jeannie Way Livermore CA 94550 I would like to thank everyone that has so generously made a Contribution thus far in this year's List Fund Raiser! Remember that its YOUR support that keeps these Lists going and improving! Don't forget to include a little comment about how the Lists have helped you! Best regards, Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 06, 2012
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: A Message From AeroElectric's Bob Nuckolls...
Dear Listers, The well known Bob Nuckolls of the AeroElectric posted a great message Monday on the AeroElectric-List regarding the Matronics Lists and the importance of supporting the operation during the Fund Raiser. Please take a minute to read Bob's commentary below, reposted to the other Matronics Lists with his permission... Date: Mon, 05 Nov 2012 08:58:41 -0600 From: "Robert L. Nuckolls, III" <nuckolls.bob(at)aeroelectric.com> Subject: AeroElectric-List: Re: Please Make A Contribution Today! At 02:14 AM 11/5/2012, Matt Dralle wrote: > > Each year at the end of the List Fund Raiser, I post a message > acknowledging everyone that so generously made a Contribution to > support the Lists. Its my way of publicly thanking everyone that > took a minute to show their appreciation for the Lists. > I will add my voice to this suggestion. It's easy to enjoy the benefits of what's available to us off-the-shelves at the corner mega-marts. It's seldom that we give pause to learn and understand the processes and tools that made it possible to reach out and select from dozens of options. This, and all civil societies, runs on talent, energy and mobility. Mobility exploited by thousands of hands, machines and transportation that figure into the 'infrastructure' that puts the boxes of Wheaties and Pop Tarts on the shelves. See "I pencil" http://tinyurl.com/36xkhq Any break in that chain of time, talent and resources at least interrupts if not totally halts flow of that benefit. Matt's room full of byte-thrashers is like the natural gas pumping station a few miles from my house. If those pumps stop, who ever is expecting the furnace to come on at the other end of the pipe is at risk for reduced service and/or higher costs for that service. Matt's yearly endeavor to keep his pumps running is a trivial burden on the members of the Lists but of incalculable value to those who participate on them. No donation is too small. We go to a fly-in a willingly chuck a few bucks into the coffee can at the drinks and donuts table, let's chuck a few bucks into Matt's coffee can too. 50,000 pounds of value doesn't get to the shelves on time if one 18-wheeler runs out of gas. The T-bytes of data flow we all enjoy don't get from your keyboard to the screens of others unless Matt pays the light bill and strokes the machines to keep them happy. No, $5 won't get you a free copy of the 'Connection or a fuel sampler but it will go toward the assurance that logging onto your favorite List will open doors that you would be sorely missed should you find that hitting the return key doesn't produce the expected response. $5 from every List customer on Matt's system will go a very long way to keeping the byte-pumps running. $More$ will go a long way to upgrading the size and quality of the machines as the old ones get long in the tooth. No matter what size of donation you choose . . . please do it now . . . Bob . . . Please make your Contribution today to support the continued operation and upgrade of these services. You can pick up a really nice gift for making your Contribution too! You may use a Credit Card or Paypal at the Matronics Contribution Site here: http://www.matronics.com/contribution or, you can send a personal check to the following address: Matronics / Matt Dralle 581 Jeannie Way Livermore, CA 94550 Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 08, 2012
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Make A List Contribution - It's Your Personal Squelch Button...
There is an automatic "squelch button" of sorts for the Fund Raiser messages. Here's how it works... As soon as a List member makes a Contribution through the Matronics Fund Raiser web site, their email address is automatically added to this year's Contributor List and they instantly cease to receive further Fund Raiser messages for the rest of the month! Its just that simple! :-) I really do appreciate each and every one of your individual Contributions to support the Lists. It is your support that enables me to upgrade the hardware and software that are required to run a List Site such as this one. It also goes to pay for the commercial-grade Internet connection and to pay the huge electric bill to keep the computer gear running and the air conditioner powered on. I run all of the Matronics Email List and Forums sites here locally which allows me to control and monitor every aspect of the system for the utmost in reliably and performance. Your personal Contribution matters because, when combined with other Listers such as yourself, it pays the bills to keep this site up and running. I accept exactly ZERO advertising dollars for the Matronics Lists sites. I can't stand the pop-up ads and all other commercials that are so prevalent on the Internet these days and I particularly don't want to have it on my Email List sites. If you appreciate the ad-free, grass-roots, down-home feel of the Matronics Email Lists, please make a Contribution to keep it that way!! http://www.matronics.com/contribution or, you can send a personal check to the following address: Matronics / Matt Dralle 581 Jeannie Way Livermore, CA 94550 Thank you! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator [Note that there are certain circumstances where you might still see a Contribution related message. For example, if someone replies to one of the messages, when using the List Browse feature, or when accessing List message via the Forum. The system keys on the given email address and since most of these are anonymous public access methods, there is no simple way to filter them.] ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 10, 2012
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Please Support The Lists...
Dear Listers, Just a reminder that November is the Matronics Email List Fund Raiser month. There are some very nice incentive gifts to choose from as well! Please make your Contribution today at: http://www.matronics.com/contribution or by dropping a personal check in the mail to: Matt Dralle / Matronics 581 Jeannie Way Livermore CA 94550 Thank you! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 12, 2012
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: What's Your Contribution Used For?
Dear Listers, You might have wondered at some pointd, "What's my Contribution used for?" Here are just a few examples of what your direct List support enables... It provides for the expensive, commercial-grade Internet connection used on the List. It pays for the regular system hardware and software upgrades enabling the highest performance possible for List services such as the Archive Search Engine, List Browser, and the Web Forums. It pays for the over 22 years of on-line archive data always available for instant search and access. And, it offsets the many hours spent writing, developing, and maintaining the custom applications that power these List Service such as the List Browse, Search Engine, Forums, and Wiki. But most importantly, your List Contribution enables a forum where you and your peers can communicate freely in an environment that is free from moderation, censorship, advertising, commercialism, SPAM, and computer viruses. It is YOUR CONTRIBUTION that directly enables all these aspects of Matronics List services. Please support it today with your List Contribution. Its one of the best investments you can make in your Sport! List Contribution Web Site: http://www.matronics.com/contribution or, you can send a personal check to the following address: Matronics / Matt Dralle 581 Jeannie Way Livermore, CA 94550 Thank you for your support! Matt Dralle Email List Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 14, 2012
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Make Sure You're Listed! List of Contributors Published
in December! Dear Listers, The List of Contributors (LOC) is just around the corner! In December I post a list of everyone that so generously made a Contribution to support the Lists. Its my way of publicly thanking everyone that took a minute to show their appreciation for the Lists. Won't you take minute and assure that your name is on the upcoming LOC? Tell others that you appreciate the Lists. Making a Contribution to support the Lists is fast and easy using your Visa, MasterCard, or Paypal account: http://www.matronics.com/contribution Or, by dropping a personal check in the mail to: Matronics / Matt Dralle 581 Jeannie Way Livermore CA 94550 I would like to thank everyone that has so generously made a Contribution thus far during this year's List Fund Raiser! Remember that its YOUR support that keeps these Lists running and improving! Don't forget to include a little comment about how the Lists have helped you! Thank you! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 16, 2012
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Who is Matt Dralle & What Are The Lists?
Dear Listers, Who is Matt Dralle and what exactly are these Lists anyway? I've been working in the Information Technology industry for over 28 years, primarily in computer networking design and implementation and more recently as an embedded software engineer. I have also done a fair amount of work in web design and development. I started the Matronics Email Lists way back in 1990 shortly after I started building my RV-4 with about 30 fellow RV builders from around the world. Since that time, I have added many other types of aircraft related Lists to the line up and numerous other List related services such as the Forums, Wiki, Archives and Search Engine just to name a few. For flexibility and reliability, I have chosen to run all of my own servers locally. Other List-related systems include a 1 Gigabit, fully switched network infrastructure, a commercial-grade Netscreen firewall, a Barracuda spam filter, a local T1 Internet router, and a bonded dual T1 commercial-grade business Internet connection with full static addressing. The computer servers include a dual quad-core Linux server for List web services with 24GB of memory, a quad -core Linux system dedicated to the email processing List functions, and another standalone Linux system serving as a remote storage disk farm for the archives, databases, and for an on-line hard drive-based backup system with multi-terra byts of online storage. This entire system is protected by three large, commercial-grade uninterrupted power supply systems (UPS) that assure the Lists are available even during a local power outage! Speaking of power, imagine how much electricity it takes to run all of these systems. On the average, the elctric bill is in the neighborhood of $7000-$8000/yr and the newly upgraded dual-T1 Internet connection runs roughly $6000/yr. A while back, I upgraded all of the computer racking infrastructure including new power feeds and dedicated air conditioning for the room that serves as the Computer Center for the Matronics Email Lists and followed that upgrade up with a second rack upgrade to house the MONSTER web system that didn't quite fit into the first rack! Here's a composite photo of the List Computer Center prior to the addition of the second rack: http://www.matronics.com/MattDralle-ListComputerCenter.jpg As you can see, I take running these Lists very seriously and I am dedicated to providing an always-on, 24x7x365 experience for each and every Lister. But building and running this system isn't cheap. As I've mentioned many times before, I don't use commercial advertisments to support any of these systems. It is supported 100% through List member Contributions! That means you... and you... and YOU! To that end, I hold a List Fund Raiser each November and ask that members make a Contribution to support the continued operation and upgrade of this ever-expanding system. Its solely YOUR Contributions that keeps it running! Please make a Contribution today to support these Lists! http://www.matronics.com/contribution Or, by dropping a personal check in the mail to: Matronics / Matt Dralle 581 Jeannie Way Livermore CA 94550 Thank you! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 19, 2012
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Reminder
Dear Listers, A quick reminder that November is the annual Matronics List Fund Raiser. The Lists are 100% member supported and all of the operational costs are covered solely through your Contributions during this time of the year. *Your* personal Contribution makes a difference and keeps all of the Matronics Email Lists and Forums completely ad-free. Please make your Contribution today to keep these services up and running for another great year! Use a credit card or your PayPal account here: http://www.matronics.com/contribution Or, by sending a personal check to: Matronics / Matt Dralle 581 Jeannie Way Livermore CA 94550 Thank you in advance! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List and Forum Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 21, 2012
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Some Nice Comments...
Dear Listers, I've been getting some very nice comments from Listers along with their List Support Contributions. I've shared a number of them below. Please read them over and see what your fellow Listers think of the Lists and Forums. Please make a Contribution today to support the continued upgrade and operation of these services. There are lots of sweet gifts available this year, so please browse the nice selection and pickup something fun with your qualifying Contribution! You may use a credit card or your PayPal account here: http://www.matronics.com/contribution Or feel free to send a personal check to: Matronics / Matt Dralle 581 Jeannie Way Livermore CA 94550 Thank you in advance for your generous support! It is very much appreciated! Best regards, Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator -------------------- What Listers Are Saying About The Lists -------------------- I have been flying my Pietenpol for a month now and am enjoying the fruits of ten hard years of work. I seriously doubt it would ever have been finished but for the help, encouragement and friendships I've received and made through the Pietenpol list. Douwe B Outstanding service to the flying community. George A Matt, I look forward to support each others projects, Glenn B Great list!!! Thanks for all your efforts! Roger C Thank you for keeping up the lists. Without it i would never have completed my aircraft. Stan S Keep up the good work my friend. I don't think I could ever finish my Pietenpol Air Camper without the help I get from this List. Tom S Thank you for keeping these list alive. Lee V The List is invaluable!! Svein J Thanks for continuing to provide the list service! Earl S You have a really GREAT service. Thankyou so much I've been on for nearly 30 years and I still check-in every morning. John B I rely fully on the lists which govern my every decision. The flexibility provides the security I seek. Fergus K My RV 7 Finally flies... 7 years of Matronics.com certainly helped. Martin H Great service here, thanks! I am just getting back to a project I dropped for a few years, great to see your site and all the folks again! James C Thanks for the great site. Robert U The Rotax list is good and the AeroElectric list outstanding! Jay H Thank you for a great resource! Jack T Thanks for your great record of outstanding service to the homebuilding community! Larry W This service is invaluable. Michael W You're doing a great job Matt. Robert D Thanks for all your work, its a great asset to all. John F Thank you for your time & effort Matt! Ted W Matt, been a follower since 2005 on the -10 list, now starting an -8. Keep up the great work! John M Still my favorite place to hang out. William W I'm not a Piet builder, but this is the most informative and congenial list I've ever run across. Please forgive my lurking-I learn a LOT here! Ken M Many thanks for keeping this alive, keep pushing! Adrian C Thanks! Please keep r going! Rich Z Many thanks for your hard work. Robert C Thanks for the Lists! I probably need to subscribe to a few more... John M Been a quick 14 years. Think I subscribed to the Kolb List in 1998, when I got my first computer. Thanks for keeping everything running smoothly for all these years. John H Great resource - thank you. David M I don't post very much, but get the postings, a lot of really practical info. John N Great job Matt, thanks for all you do. Roger M Thanks for ANOTHER great year, Matt! True grassroots experimental aviation has been pushed aside in many ways. But the List represents the evolution of this great tradition of home-building. One man, the plans, the tools, and the List - that's all you need to build the dream! Robert B This message board is a real help to my project and creating friendships. John S Many thanks for your continuing excellent work. Mike G Thank you for your work Matt. Your lists have helped me a great deal during the construction of my plane. Hal B Nice List Van E These lists are priceless for builders. Ronald C Thanks for keeping me in touch with the Pulsar community. Otto S Thanks for keeping up this great warbird sight!! Yak Ron Thanks for providing all the lists for so many years. H H Thanks for all that you do. Your dedication is much appreciated! Warren H Best service on the internet! Owen B I have learned so much from the "list". Nick C Great Service You Are Providing! Giffen M Thanks so much for maintaining these great resources. Dave S I no longer fly due to age and health problems, but I still enjoy the reading from other pilots. Dallas S This is a wonderful site. Robert B Useful service over the last year - thanks. Om T -------------------- What Listers Are Saying About The Lists -------------------- ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 23, 2012
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: "Black Friday" For List Fund Raiser...?
Dear Listers, The number of List subscriptions are up by a fair amount this year, but support during this year's Fund Raiser is substantially behind last year, and there's only about a week left until the end of the Fund Raiser. I have always preferred a non-commercial List experience as many, many members have also expressed that they do as well. However, if the yearly fund raiser cannot generate sufficient funds to keep the bills paid, other sources of income might be required including some sort of advertising. Please don't let that happen! Your personal Contribution of $20 or $30 goes a long ways to keeping this operation a float. Please make sure your name is on this year's List of Contributors! The List Contribution site is secure, quick, and easy: http://www.matronics.com/contribution Or, drop a personal check in the mail to: Matt Dralle / Matronics 581 Jeannie Way Livermore CA 94550 Thank you in advance for your support! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List and Forum Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 25, 2012
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Just A Few More Days To Make Your List Contribution...
There is less than a week left in this year's List Fund Raiser and only a few short days to grab one of the great Contribution Gifts available this year. Support is still significantly lagging behind last year at this point but hopefully it will pick up here towards the end. Please remember that it is solely the Contributions of List members that keeps the Lists up and running as there is no commercialism or advertising on the Matronics Lists and Forums. The List Contribution web site is secure, fast, and easy and you can use a credit card, Paypal, or a personal check: http://www.matronics.com/contribution Or, drop a personal check in the mail to: Matt Dralle / Matronics 581 Jeannie Way Livermore CA 94550 I want to thank everyone that has already made a generous contribution to support the Lists! Thank you! Matt Dralle Matronics EMail List and Forum Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 26, 2012
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Contributions Down By 23%...
Dear Listers, As of today, Contributions to the Matronics List Fund Raiser are lagging behind last year at this time by roughly 23%. I have a Fund Raiser each year simply to cover my operating costs for the Lists. I *do not* accept any advertising income to support the Lists and rely solely on the Contributions of members to keep the expenses paid. I run all of my own servers and they are housed here locally, and the Internet connection is a commercial-grade, dual T1 connection with public address space. I also maintain a full backup system that does nightly backups of all List-related data so that in the event of a server crash, all of the Lists and the many years of List archive data could be restored onto a new server in a matter of hours. All of this costs a fair amount of money, not to mention a significant amount of my personal time. I have a Fund Raiser each year to cover these costs and I ask that members that feel they receive a benefit from my investments make a modest Contribution each year to support the continued operation and upgrade of these services. If you enjoy the Lists, please make a Contribution today. I also offer some incentive gifts for larger Contribution levels. At the Contribution Web Site, you can use a credit card, Paypal, or personal check to show your support for the continuation of these services: http://www.matronics.com/contribution Or, drop a personal check in the mail to: Matt Dralle / Matronics 581 Jeannie Way Livermore CA 94550 Thank you for your support! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 27, 2012
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Make Sure You're Listed! List of Contributors Coming in
December! Dear Listers, There's just a couple more days left in this year's List Fund Raiser and that means the List of Contributors (LOC) is just around the corner! In December I post a list of everyone that so generously made a Contribution to support the Lists. Its my way of publicly thanking everyone that took a minute to show their appreciation for the Lists. Won't you take minute and assure that your name is on the upcoming LOC? Tell others that you appreciate the Lists. Making a Contribution to support the Lists is fast and easy using your Visa, MasterCard, or Paypal account: http://www.matronics.com/contribution Or, drop a personal check in the mail to: Matt Dralle / Matronics 581 Jeannie Way Livermore CA 94550 I would like to thank everyone that has so generously made a Contribution thus far during this year's List Fund Raiser! Remember that its YOUR support that keeps these Lists running and improving! Don't forget to include a little comment about how the Lists have helped you! Thank you! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 28, 2012
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Just 3 Days Left - Please Make Your List Contribution Today!
There are only three days left until the end of this year's List Fund Raiser. Please take a minute to show your support as so many others have this year and make sure YOUR name is on the forthcoming List of Contributors! Its quick and easy using the secure web site with a credit card or PayPal: http://www.matronics.com/contribution or by sending your personal check to: Matronics Lists c/o Matt Dralle 581 Jeannie Way Livermore, CA 94550 Thank you in advance for your support of these List services! Matt Dralle

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