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The List is an invaluable resource! William C AeroElectric list is a great source of info and learning! Janice J Thank you, Matt for being there for us making it all happen on the List for so many years - Great JOB! Sam S Thank you for providing a great venue. You definitely hit the nail on the head with your solicitation asking if readers look forward to receiving the email digests. I certainly do and when I move from a dreamer to a builder, I expect the anticipation will only increase. Joe S Thanks for a Perfect working list. Hans-Peter R Great List Bryan K Such a great selection of valuable forums! David G Nice job! Walt E Good resource... Robert P Thank you for another great year! Scott S I could not do this without you... Robert D I believe I've been a list member for over a decade now. Thanks for the service! Tim L Great List Hendrik W ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 30, 2008
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Last "Official" Day Of The List Fund Raiser!
Dear Listers, Its November 30th and that means three things:.. 1) Today I am now officially 45 years old... 2) It marks that last "official" day of this year's List Fund Raiser! 3) Its the last day I will be bugging everyone for a whole year! If you use the Lists and enjoy the content and the no-advertising, no-spam, and no-censorship way in which they're run, please make a Contribution today to support their continued operation and upkeep. Your $20 or $30 goes a long way to keep the List bills paid. I will be posting the List of Contributors next week so make sure your name is on it! Thank you to everyone that has made a Contribution so far this year! It is greatly appreciated. http://www.matronics.com/contribution Best regards, Matt Dralle Email List and Forum Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Gasolator
From: "HBaker" <henry.baker(at)nf.sympatico.ca>
Date: Dec 02, 2008
Can anyone tell me what gasolator is for the moose, and how do they tell ? fuel flow? -------- Currently building a Murphy Moose - any help would be appreciated. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=217388#217388 ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Dec 08, 2008
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: List of Contributors 2008
Dear Listers, This year's Fund Raiser has drawn to a close and I want to thank everyone that so generously made a contribution this year in support of the Matronics Email List and Forum operation. Your generosity keeps the wheels on this cart and I truly appreciate the many kind words of encouragement and financial reimbursement. If you haven't yet made a Contribution in support of this year's Fund Raiser, please feel free to do so. The great List Fund Raiser gifts will be available on the Contribution site for a little while longer, so hurry and make your Contribution today and still get your great gift! Once again, the URL for the Contribution web site is: http://www.matronics.com/contribution or by personal check to: Matronics / Matt Dralle PO Box 347 Livermore CA 94551-0347 I would like to thank Andy Gold of the Builder's Bookstore ( http://www.buildersbooks.com ), Jon Croke of HomebuiltHELP ( http://www.homebuilthelp.com ) and Bob Nuckolls of AeroElectric ( http://www.aeroelectric.com ) for their extremely generous support during this year's Fund Raiser through the contribution of discounted merchandise. These are great guys that support the aviation industry and I encourage each and every Lister to have a look at their products. Thank you Andy, Jon and Bob!! Your support is very much appreciated! And finally, below you will find a web link to the 2008 List of Contributors current as of 12/7/08! Have a look at this list of names as *these* are the people that make all of these List services possible! I can't thank each of you enough for your support and great feedback during this year's Fund Raiser! THANK YOU! http://www.matronics.com/loc/2008.html I will be shipping out all of the gifts around the end of December. In most cases, gifts will be shipped via US Postal Service. Once again, thank you for making this year's List Fund Raiser successful! Best regards, Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: M14 electric start on e bay
From: "N395V" <Bearcat(at)bearcataviation.com>
Date: Mar 05, 2009
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Other-Vehicles-Trailers_Aircraft__M-14P-360-h-p-Radial-Engine_W0QQitemZ330311544690QQddnZOtherQ20VehiclesQ20Q26Q20TrailersQQadiZ2829QQddiZ2828QQadnZAircraftQQcmdZViewItemQQptZMotors_Aircraft?hash=item330311544690&_trksid=p4506.c0.m245&_trkparms=72%3A317%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318 -------- Milt 2003 F1 Rocket 2006 Radial Rocket Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=233349#233349 ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Air cleaners
From: "iaqdix" <iaqdix(at)gmail.com>
Date: Mar 25, 2009
You have been asked over the years to recommend an air cleaner for the M14? How is that?? _________________ Lennox Healthy Climate (http://www.iaqsource.com/category.php/lennox/?category=547) Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=236106#236106 ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Mar 26, 2009
From: Brent Blue <brentblue(at)wyoming.com>
Subject: Re: MurphyMoose-List Digest: 1 Msgs - 03/25/09
I just used a green scouring pad between two pieced of 1/4 inch chicken wire. At 12:56 AM 3/26/2009, you wrote: >* > > ================================================= > Online Versions of Today's List Digest Archive > ================================================= > >Today's complete MurphyMoose-List Digest can also be found in either of the >two Web Links listed below. The .html file includes the Digest formatted >in HTML for viewing with a web browser and features Hyperlinked Indexes >and Message Navigation. The .txt file includes the plain ASCII version >of the MurphyMoose-List Digest and can be viewed with a generic text editor >such as Notepad or with a web browser. > >HTML Version: > > >http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=html&Chapter 09-03-25&Archive=MurphyMoose > >Text Version: > > >http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=txt&Chapter 09-03-25&Archive=MurphyMoose > > > =============================================== > EMail Version of Today's List Digest Archive > =============================================== > > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > MurphyMoose-List Digest Archive > --- > Total Messages Posted Wed 03/25/09: 1 > ---------------------------------------------------------- > > >Today's Message Index: >---------------------- > > 1. 08:57 AM - Re: Air cleaners (iaqdix) > > >________________________________ Message >1 _____________________________________ > > >Subject: MurphyMoose-List: Re: Air cleaners >From: "iaqdix" <iaqdix(at)gmail.com> > > >You have been asked over the years to recommend an air cleaner for >the M14? How >is that?? > > >_________________ >Lennox Healthy Climate >(http://www.iaqsource.com/category.php/lennox/?category=547) > > >Read this topic online here: > >http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=236106#236106 > > ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Cowling
From: "HBaker" <henry.baker(at)nf.sympatico.ca>
Date: Apr 19, 2009
I have bought a metal cowl for the moose really cool! and was wondering if you guys have any pics of how to mount the thing especially on the front, it is in one Piece , should I cut it in half in order to work on the engine, otherwise I'll have to remove the prop every time? -------- Currently building a Murphy Moose - any help would be appreciated. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=240216#240216 ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Apr 20, 2009
From: <bobmoref(at)cox.net>
Subject: Re: MurphyMoose-List Digest: 0 Msgs - 03/27/09
please un subscribe me. Thanks -- Bob Morefield Cell 602 510 7002 ---- MurphyMoose-List Digest Server wrote: > * > > ================================================= > Online Versions of Today's List Digest Archive > ================================================= > > Today's complete MurphyMoose-List Digest can also be found in either of the > two Web Links listed below. The .html file includes the Digest formatted > in HTML for viewing with a web browser and features Hyperlinked Indexes > and Message Navigation. The .txt file includes the plain ASCII version > of the MurphyMoose-List Digest and can be viewed with a generic text editor > such as Notepad or with a web browser. > > HTML Version: > > http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=html&Chapter 09-03-27&Archive=MurphyMoose > > Text Version: > > http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=txt&Chapter 09-03-27&Archive=MurphyMoose > > > =============================================== > EMail Version of Today's List Digest Archive > =============================================== > > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > MurphyMoose-List Digest Archive > --- > Total Messages Posted Fri 03/27/09: 0 > ---------------------------------------------------------- > > > Today's Message Index: > ---------------------- > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "George Coy" <george(at)gesoco.com>
Subject: Engines for sale
Date: Jun 25, 2009
I have two M14P engines available as follows. M-14P engine s/n 541007:--- $16,500.00 plus shipping from Russia Last overhaul 1992 TTSN - 188 hr., SMOH - 0 hr. The engine will have original logbook, all units, set of passports and docs for all units. The engine will be tested on factory's test bay and re-preserved in June 2009. The logbook will show the entries aboutfresh testing and preservation. Engine will be sealed under polyethylene films and packed in plywood boxes so as to eliminate damages of ones during shipment. M-14P engine s/n 331019 --- $12,900.00 plus shipping from Russia Last overhauled 1992 TTSN - 771 hr., SMOH - 270 hr. The engine will have original logbook, all units, set of passports and docs for all units. The engine must to be tested on factory's test bay and preserved by June 2009 The logbook will show the entries aboutfresh testing and preservation. Engine will be sealed under polyethylene films and packed in plywood boxes so as to eliminate damages of ones during shipment. CAS Ltd. will warranty the engine for 25 hours or 1 year against any faults due to materials or workmanship if engine is installed and operated according to applicable manuals George Coy CAS Ltd. 714 Airport Rd. Swanton VT 05488 802-868-5633 off 802-363-5782 cell george.coy(at)gmail.com SKYPE george.coy -- ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jul 15, 2009
From: BOB TRIPP <btripp(at)interisland.net>
Subject: INSURANCE
We are about to start flying our Mysterious Moose, serial number 252. We have only found one underwriter will insure us, US Specialty, a division of Houston Casualty. Apparently there's no competition in the market. Not surprising; how many companies are willing to insure a kit built experimental six place airplane on amphibious floats, flown by three low time seaplane pilots. After the first 40 hours are flown off, if we want hull coverage for $300,000 it would be just over $17,000. So, anybody out there have some comparable figures? Bob Tripp ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Aug 06, 2009
From: e fisk <evanfisk(at)shaw.ca>
Subject: moose carb air box inquiry m14p
anybody have an idea where I can pick-up a carb airbox for my moose with an upcoming m14 p install.? Seems the factory is short staffed . Seems hard to order parts etc for a while anyway. regards, Evan Fisk Winnipeg, Canada evanfisk(at)shaw.ca ________________________________________________________________________________
From: Gene Cannarella <mistermoose(at)earthlink.net>
Subject: cowl for murphy moose
Date: Aug 18, 2009
Does anybody know who makes the cowl for the murphy moose? I have tried to order one from Murphy Aircraft back in March. I was told by Jeff in shipping that it would be ready in 8 weeks. Since then, Jeff is no longer working there and I have not had any response to my e-mails requesting an update on my order or for a phone number to talk to a live person to get the ball rolling again. Any advise would be well appreciated. Gene Cannarella ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Aug 18, 2009
Subject: Re: cowl for murphy moose
From: "Fred Messinger (fredm)" <fredmessinger(at)gmail.com>
Gene, I would try George Coy at www.gesoco.com If I recall correctly, the day I picked up my M14P from him, he mentioned something about cowls for Mooses. (meese?) And they were metal. And that made me create a mental note to contact him again when it came time for me to work on the cowl/engine section. That was a couple years ago, but may it still be worth a try. Fred On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 12:38 PM, Gene Cannarella wrote: > mistermoose(at)earthlink.net> > > Does anybody know who makes the cowl for the murphy moose? I have tried to > order one from > Murphy Aircraft back in March. I was told by Jeff in shipping that it would > be ready in 8 weeks. Since > then, Jeff is no longer working there and I have not had any response to my > e-mails requesting an > update on my order or for a phone number to talk to a live person to get > the ball rolling again. > > Any advise would be well appreciated. > > Gene Cannarella > > ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "DAVID STROUD" <dstroud(at)xplornet.com>
Subject: Re: cowl for murphy moose
Date: Aug 18, 2009
Giday, Gene. I know Dan Horton down in Alabama was spinning cowls a couple of years ago. I don't know if he is on the list and to respect his privacy, if you email me at dstroud(at)xplornet.com I'd be happy to email you his email address. He's a pretty straight shooter and might be able to fix you up if no one else can. David Stroud Ottawa, Canada Christavia C-FDWS Fairchild 51 replica under construction C-FYXV ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gene Cannarella" <mistermoose(at)earthlink.net> Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 12:38 PM Subject: MurphyMoose-List: cowl for murphy moose > > Does anybody know who makes the cowl for the murphy moose? I have > tried to order one from > Murphy Aircraft back in March. I was told by Jeff in shipping that it > would be ready in 8 weeks. Since > then, Jeff is no longer working there and I have not had any response > to my e-mails requesting an > update on my order or for a phone number to talk to a live person to > get the ball rolling again. > > Any advise would be well appreciated. > > Gene Cannarella > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Checked by AVG - www.avg.com ________________________________________________________________________________
From: Gene Cannarella <mistermoose(at)earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: cowl for murphy moose
Date: Aug 18, 2009
Fred, I talked to George yesterday and he had no leads on a cowl for the moose. Seems anything metal would be at least 3000 dollars and it would have to be molded to fit.. Thanks just the same for your input. Gene On Aug 18, 2009, at 10:01 AM, Fred Messinger (fredm) wrote: > Gene, > > I would try George Coy at www.gesoco.com > > If I recall correctly, the day I picked up my M14P from him, he > mentioned something about cowls for Mooses. (meese?) And they were > metal. And that made me create a mental note to contact him again > when it came time for me to work on the cowl/engine section. That > was a couple years ago, but may it still be worth a try. > > > Fred > > On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 12:38 PM, Gene Cannarella > wrote: > > > Does anybody know who makes the cowl for the murphy moose? I have > tried to order one from > Murphy Aircraft back in March. I was told by Jeff in shipping that > it would be ready in 8 weeks. Since > then, Jeff is no longer working there and I have not had any > response to my e-mails requesting an > update on my order or for a phone number to talk to a live person > to get the ball rolling again. > > Any advise would be well appreciated. > > Gene Cannarella > > > ========== > List" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator? > MurphyMoose-List > ========== > http://forums.matronics.com > ========== > le, List Admin. > ="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution > ========== > > ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Autocad drawing for Moose panel
From: "hildara" <hildaranopel(at)gmail.com>
Date: Aug 22, 2009
Finding a Graduate Job in Mechanical Design Engineering or CAD? Hi I have just got my degree in CAD Engineeing and I am finding hard to find a graduate job in the field of mechanical design engineering. If anyone could help me find a place I could look for a job like this would be amazing. Thank you. -------- i need help Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=259070#259070 ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: moose carb air box inquiry m14p
From: "HBaker" <henry.baker(at)nf.sympatico.ca>
Date: Oct 04, 2009
Good luck! I am after asking several times, once a guy was going to sell me one and then He found out I was from Canada and he thought it was to much hassle with customs , so he gave up on it. We asked someone else, and they were going to make one and see if it was feasible to sell , I guess it wasn't since we haven't heard from them either. we still do not have one either so I guess I'll have to make it myself, but If you find some at a reasonable price let me know. Cheers Henry Moose 294 -------- Currently building a Murphy Moose - any help would be appreciated. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=266498#266498 ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "George Coy" <george(at)gesoco.com>
Subject: Re: moose carb air box inquiry m14p
Date: Oct 05, 2009
We manufacture the carb air boxes. They are $1,400.00 George Coy CAS Ltd. 714 Airport Rd. Swanton VT 05488 802-868-5633 off 802-363-5782 cell george.coy(at)gmail.com http://coyafct.com/ SKYPE george.coy -----Original Message----- From: owner-murphymoose-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-murphymoose-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of HBaker Sent: Sunday, October 04, 2009 8:38 PM Subject: MurphyMoose-List: Re: moose carb air box inquiry m14p --> Good luck! I am after asking several times, once a guy was going to sell me one and then He found out I was from Canada and he thought it was to much hassle with customs , so he gave up on it. We asked someone else, and they were going to make one and see if it was feasible to sell , I guess it wasn't since we haven't heard from them either. we still do not have one either so I guess I'll have to make it myself, but If you find some at a reasonable price let me know. Cheers Henry Moose 294 -------- Currently building a Murphy Moose - any help would be appreciated. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=266498#266498 ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 01, 2009
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: PLEASE READ - Matronics Email List Fund Raiser During
November! Dear Listers, Each November I hold a PBS-like fund raiser to support the continued operation and upgrade of the List services at Matronics. It's solely through the Contributions of List members that these Matronics Lists are possible. There is NO advertising to support the Lists. You might have noticed the conspicuous lack of flashing banners and annoying pop-ups on the Matronics Email List email messages and web site pages such as the Matronics List Forums ( http://forums.matronics.com ), the List Wiki ( http://wiki.matronics.com), or other related pages such as the List Search Engine ( http://www.matronics.com/search ), the List Browser ( http://www.matronics.com/listbrowse ), etc. This is because I believe in a List experience that is completely about the sport we all enjoy - namely Airplanes and not about annoying advertisements. During the month of November I will be sending out List messages every couple of days reminding everyone that the Fund Raiser is underway. I ask for your patience and understanding during the Fund Raiser and throughout these regular messages. The Fund Raiser is only financial support mechanism I have to pay all of the bills associated with running these lists. Your personal Contribution counts! Once again, this year I've got a terrific line up of free gifts to go along with the various Contribution levels. Most all of these gifts have been provided by some of the vary members and vendors that you'll find on Matronics Lists and have been either donated or provided at substantially discounted rates. This year, these generous people include Bob Nuckolls of the AeroElectric Connection (http://www.aeroelectric.com/), Andy Gold of the Builder's Bookstore (http://www.buildersbooks.com/), and Jon Croke of HomebuiltHELP (http://www.homebuilthelp.com/). These are extremely generous guys and I encourage you to visit their respective web sites. Each one offers a unique and very useful aviation-related product line. I would like publicly to thank Bob, Andy, and Jon for their generous support of the Lists again this year!! You can make your List Contribution using any one of three secure methods this year including using a credit card, PayPal, or by personal check. All three methods afford you the opportunity to select one of this year's free gifts with a qualifying Contribution amount!! To make your Contribution, please visit the secure site below: http://www.matronics.com/contribution I would like to thank everyone in advance for their generous financial AND moral support over the years! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 03, 2009
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: November List Fund Raiser
A couple of years ago I implemented an automatic "squelch button" of sorts for the Fund Raiser messages. Here's how it works... As soon as a List member makes a Contribution through the Matronics Fund Raiser web site, he or she will instantly cease to receive these Fund Raiser messages for the rest of the month! Its just that simple. Don't you wish PBS worked that way! :-) I really do appreciate each and every one of your individual Contributions to support the Lists. It is your support that enables me to upgrade the hardware and software that are required to run a List Site such as this one. It also goes to pay for the commercial-grade Internet connection and to pay the huge electric bill to keep the computer gear running and the air conditioner powered on. I run all of the Matronics Email List and Forums sites here locally which allows me to control and monitor every aspect of the system for the utmost in reliably and performance. Your personal Contribution matters because, when combined with other Listers such as yourself, it pays the bills to keep this site up and running. I accept exactly ZERO advertising dollars for the Matronics Lists sites. I can't stand the pop-up ads and all other commercials that are so prevalent on the Internet these days and I particularly don't want to have it on my Email List sites. If you appreciate the ad-free, grass-roots, down-home feel of the Matronics Email Lists, please make a Contribution to keep it that way!! http://www.matronics.com/contribution Thank you! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator [Note that there are certain circumstances where you might still see a Contribution related message. For example, if someone replies to one of the messages, when using the List Browse feature, or when accessing List message via the Forum. The system keys on the given email address and since most of these are anonymous public access methods, there is no simple way to filter them.] ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 05, 2009
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Reminder
Dear Listers, Just a quick reminder that November is the annual List Fund Raiser. The Matronics Lists are 100% member supported and all of the operational costs are provided for my your Contributions during this time of the year. Your personal Contribution makes a difference and keeps all of the Matronics Email Lists and Forums completely ad-free. Please make your Contribution today to keep these services up and running! http://www.matronics.com/contribution Thank you in advance! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List and Forum Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 07, 2009
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Please Make A Contribution To Support Your Lists
Dear Listers, There is no advertising income to support the Matronics Email Lists and Forums. The operation is supported 100% by your personal Contributions during the November Fund Raiser. Please make your Contribution today to support the continued operation and upgrade of these services. You can pick up a really nice gift for making your Contribution too! You may use a Credit Card or Paypal at the Matronics Contribution Site here: http://www.matronics.com/contribution or, you can send a personal check to the following address: Matronics / Matt Dralle PO Box 347 Livermore, CA 94551-0347 Thank you in advance for your generous support! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List and Forum Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 09, 2009
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Fund Raiser List of Contributors - Please Make A Contribution
Today! Each year at the end of the List Fund Raiser, I post a message acknowledging everyone that so generously made a Contribution to support the Lists. Its my way of publicly thanking everyone that took a minute to show their appreciation for the Lists. Won't you take a moment and assure that your name is on that List of Contributors (LOC)? As a number of members have pointed out over the years, the List seems at least - if not a whole lot more - valuable as a building/flying/recreating/entertainment tool as your typical magazine subscription! Please take minute and assure that your name is on this year's LOC! Show others that you appreciate the Lists. Making a Contribution to support the Lists is fast and easy using your Credit card or Paypal on the Secure Web Site: http://www.matronics.com/contribution or by dropping a personal check in the mail to: Matt Dralle / Matronics PO Box 347 Livermore CA 94551-0347 I would like to thank everyone that has so generously made a Contribution thus far in this year's List Fund Raiser! Remember that its YOUR support that keeps these Lists going and improving! Don't forget to include a little comment about how the Lists have helped you! Best regards, Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 11, 2009
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: List Fund Raiser
Dear Listers, Just a reminder that November is the Matronics Email List Fund Raiser month. There are some very nice incentive gifts to choose from as well! Please make your Contribution today: http://www.matronics.com/contribution Thank you! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 13, 2009
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Some Very Nice Comments...
Dear Listers, I've been getting some really nice comments from Listers along with their List Support Contributions. I've shared some of them below. Please read them over and see what your fellow Listers think of the Lists and Forums. Please make a Contribution today to support the continued upgrade and operation of these services. There are lots of sweet gifts available, so browse the extensive selection and pickup a nice item along with your qualifying Contribution. http://www.matronics.com/contribution Thank you in advance for your generous support! It is very much appreciated! Best regards, Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ----------- What Listers Are Saying About The Lists ----------- Few things in life bring more usefulness than the List. This is worth every penny! Stephen T. I have enjoyed the list for way too many years, but continue to get closer to flying my project with the help of listers. C.L. Thanks for this List. It's been a great source of encouragement and information. Arden A. Great service! Gerald T. It's always interesting reading the lists and I've gotten some good help from the issues and answers there. Steve T. Been a member of the List for 12 years. Keep up the good work. John H. Great Site! Harry M. Great source of information... Martin H. Thanks for providing this great service! Jeff P. I continue to get and give information through these lists. Ralph C. This is a wonderful resource! Warren H. This is what inernet was meant for, sharing information and experience. Michael W. Thanks for making such a good list! Fred D. Thanks for running a great service! Michael F. I really appreciate it. Dan H. Thanks for the great service. Michael L. Thanks for maintaining this great resource. John C. Your sites have been a great resourses and an introduction to many competent aircraft designers and fabricators. Jon M. Thanks for all that you do to maintain the Matronics forums and for the personal help that you have been to me in answering my questions regarding the use of the forums. William B. [The List] helped me get flying, fly off my test hours and make my systems better. Ralph C. The Universe is a better place because of you. Eric J. ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 16, 2009
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Contributions Down By 21%...
Dear Listers, As of today, contributions to the Matronics List Fund Raiser are lagging behind last year at this time by 21%. I have a fund raiser each year simply to cover my operating costs for the Lists. I *do not* accept any advertising income to support the Lists and rely solely on the contributions of members to keep the expenses paid. I run all of my own servers and they are housed here locally, and the Internet connection is a commercial-grade, T1 connection with public address space. I also maintain a full backup system that does nightly backups of all List-related data so that in the event of a server crash or worse, all of the Lists and the many years of List archive data could be restored onto a new server in a matter of hours. All of this costs a fair amount of money, not to mention a significant amount of my personal time as well. I have a Fund Raiser each year to cover these costs and I ask that members that feel they receive a benefit from my investments, make a modest contribution each year to support the continued operation and upgrade of these services. If you enjoy the Lists, please make a contribution today. I also offer some incentive gifts for larger contribution levels. At the Contribution Web Wite, you can use a credit card, Paypal, or personal check to show your support for the continuation of these services: http://www.matronics.com/contribution Thank you for your support! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 18, 2009
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: What's My Contribution Used For?
Dear Listers, Some have asked, "What's my Contribution used for?" and that's a good question. Here are just a few examples of what your direct List support enables. It provides for the very expensive, commercial-grade T1 Internet connection used on the List insuring maximum performance and minimal contention when accessing List services. It pays for the regular system hardware and software upgrades enabling the highest performance possible for services such as the Archive Search Engine, List Browser, and Forums. It pays for narly 20 years (yeah, I really said *20* years) worth of online archive data available for instant random search and access. And, it offsets the many hours spent writing, developing, and maintaining the custom applications that power this List Service such as the List Browse, Search Engine, Forums, and Wiki. But most importantly, your List Contribution enables a forum where you and your peers can communicate freely in an environment that is free from moderation, censorship, advertising, commercialism, SPAM, and computer viruses. How many places on the Internet can you make all those statements these days? It is YOUR CONTRIBUTION that directly enables these many aspects of these valuable List services. Please support it today with your List Contribution. Its one of the best investments you can make in your Sport... List Contribution Web Site: http://www.matronics.com/contribution Thank you for your support! Matt Dralle Email List Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 20, 2009
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Just A Few Days Left; Still Trailing Last Year...
Dear Listers, There are just a few more days left of this year's List Fund Raiser! Response has been very good, but still well behind last year. If you've been waiting until the last minute to make your contribution and maybe even pick up a great gift, now might be good time to show your support! Please remember that there isn't any sort of commercial advertising on the Lists and the *only* means of keeping these Lists running is through your Contributions during this Fund Raiser. Please make a Contribution today! http://www.matronics.com/contribution Thank you! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 22, 2009
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Make Sure You're Listed! List of Contributors Published
in December! Dear Listers, The List of Contributors (LOC) is just around the corner! In December I post a list of everyone that so generously made a Contribution to support the Lists. Its my way of publicly thanking everyone that took a minute to show their appreciation for the Lists. Won't you take minute and assure that your name is on the upcoming LOC? Tell others that you appreciate the Lists. Making a Contribution to support the Lists is fast and easy using your Visa, MasterCard, or Paypal account: http://www.matronics.com/contribution Or, by dropping a personal check in the mail to: Matronics / Matt Dralle PO Box 347 Livermore CA 94551-0347 USA (Please include your email address on the check!) I would like to thank everyone that has so generously made a Contribution thus far during this year's List Fund Raiser! Remember that its YOUR support that keeps these Lists running and improving! Don't forget to include a little comment about how the Lists have helped you! Thank you! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 24, 2009
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Just A Few More Days To Make Your List Contribution...
There is less than a week left in this year's List Fund Raiser and only a few short days to grab one of the great Contribution Gifts available this year. Support is still significantly lagging behind last year at this point but hopefully it will pick up here towards the end. Please remember that it is solely the Contributions of List members that keeps the Lists up and running as there is no commercialism or advertising on the Matronics Lists and Forums. The List Contribution web site is secure, fast, and easy and you can use a credit card, Paypal, or a personal check: http://www.matronics.com/contribution I want to thank everyone that has already made a generous contribution to support the Lists! Thank you! Matt Dralle Matronics EMail List and Forum Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 26, 2009
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: What Are You Thankful For...?
Dear Listers, Here in the United States, Thursday is our National day of Thanksgiving. Many of us will be traveling to be with our families and friends to share in generous feasts of plenty and giving thanks for many blessings that have been bestowed upon us. Many Listers have expressed over the last couple of weeks how thankful they are for the Email Lists and Forums here on the Matronics servers and for all of the assistance and comradery they have experienced being a part of the Lists. One of my favorite comments is when someone writes to me and says something like, "Its the first thing I do in the morning while I'm having my morning coffee!". That's a wonderful tribute to the purpose and function of these Lists. Its always great to hear I'm not the only one that jumps out of bed each morning to check my List email!! Won't you take a minute today and show your appreciation for these Lists and for their continued operation and upgrade? The List Contribution Site is: http://www.matronics.com/contribution Thank you in advance for your kind consideration, Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 28, 2009
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: No "Black Friday" For List Fund Raiser...
Even though the number of List subscriptions and List posts are up significantly this year compared to last year, support during this year's List Fund Raiser has been woefully lagging from last year. There are only a couple more days left in November and the end of the Fund Raiser is quickly approaching. I have always preferred a non-commercial List experience as many, many members have also expressed that they do as well. However, if the yearly fund raiser cannot generate sufficient funds to keep the bills paid on the List service expenses, I will have to look into some sort of advertising. Please don't let that happen! Your personal contribution of $20 or $30 goes a long ways to keeping the operation a float. The lunch combo at Carl's Jr costs nearly $10 these days. Isn't the List worth at least as much as a couple of burgers? Please make sure your name is on this year's List of Contributors published in December. The Contribution site is secure, quick, and easy: http://www.matronics.com/contribution Thank you in advance for your support! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List and Forum Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 29, 2009
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Just Two More Days Left; Fund Raiser Behind By 12%...
Dear Listers, This year's List Fund Raiser is still trailing last year by a 12% margin. If you like the ad-free environment that is the Matronics Email List and Forum experience, please make a quick Contribution to keep it that way! http://www.matronics.com/contribution I've been getting a ton of really nice comments from Contributors regarding the Lists. Please read over some of them below and see if they don't resonate with you as well. Thank you in advance for your generous contribution to support these Lists! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator --------------------------- Member Feedback ---------------------------- ur web site is a real institution of the whole Experimental Aircraft subculture. John G Thanks Matt for the lists. A lot of good info. Great bunch of list members. Great videos and no SPAM. Paul C It has been a valuable tool. Troy M ..appreciate the site as much as ever. Larry M By using various forums I've learned a ton, received great advice, made friends, and saved money! Craig W Since I've finished [my project], I've not had much to do as far as fabrication of electrical systems. However, selectively reading various topics is still very valuable and Bob's insights and new how to's make me a continuous subscriber. Larry F Matronics user groups are the best tool I have for learning to build my RV-10! Philip W There is always useful knowledge to be found on this list, and I suspect that it has kept quite a few people out of trouble over the years it has been in operation. Good entertainment, too. Graham H Great web site. I wish I'd known about it while building. Bob S I'm happy to provide some support to this list. It is very helpful. Vaughn T Good service to sport aviation!! Roger B Awesome Service you provide for us! Bill R My [project] is almost finished! However, it wouldn't be close without the [this] group. Douwe B Great list. Robert S I'm not a builder yet but learning lots from the list. Peter M Some nonsense, some humor, but mostly good information. Tony C Thanks for creating and keeping the Lists. They are entertaining and always informative! John M Thanks for this valuable resource to our community. Barry H The list is IMHO the greatest resource on the net. John B Thanks again for providing another year of your useful List service. Jerry B Great site indeed, every time I get a message I usually learn something. Peter B You are making a huge contribution to the builder fraternity and in no small way enhancing sport aviation safety. Richard G The List is the SINGLE, MOST IMPORTANT resource I have in building my RV10. I would be lost without out it. And I have made a bunch of new friends as well! Les K The lists are one of the things I really enjoy, so keep up the good work. Freddie H Every year -- the best value for my time and money! Owen B This list is a major contribution to safe building! Donald K Really enjoy the daily boost it gives me. Walter S In the last 18 months I have been privileged to listen & ask. I have learnt at the feet of the masters... Stewart G You set the standard on how Internet forums should be run and managed. Larry W The Universe is a better place because of you. Eric J [The List] helped me get flying, fly off my test hours and make my systems better. I continue to get and give information through these lists. Ralph C ..another GREAT year of advice, answers, and inspiration courtesy of the Lists and your hard work!!!! Rob B ..the best forum on the Internet! Robert B I can't tell you how grateful I am for your list and your subscribers to keep me up to date and holding the dream. Ashley M This page makes it easy to contribute. Jeffrey P Thank you for your expertise in creating & running the much useful lists! Anthony P Thanks for providing our advertising free on line community. George R Thanks for maintaining the equipment and software to provide this valuable source of information to us individuals. Your effort is appreciated by many more people than you realize. Ross H Thanks for a great site. Although the project is complete and flying I still get a wealth of information from all the messages. Marcus C Only learned about you six months ago...my RV-7A is just finished, but the list has been helpful. Wish I had discovered you sooner. Jack B This is an invaluable communications media for us common minded folks to exchange technical and other information. George H ..great service that you provide. David W ..still appreciate your list. Alain L [The] Lists are an invaluable resource. I know that it has helped me enormously in my project. William B ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 30, 2009
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: [Please Read] - Last Official Day of List Fund Raiser!
Dear Listers, Its November 30th and that means at least two things. For better or worse, its my 46th birthday! But it also means that its that last official day of the Matronics Email List Fund Raiser! If you been jones'n over one of the really nice gifts that are available this year with a qualifying Contribution, then now is the time to jump on one!! If you've been meaning to make a Contribution this month but have been putting it off for some reason, NOW is the time! I will be posting the List of Contributors in a few days, so you'll probably want to be known as a person that supported the Lists! I want to thank everyone that has so generously made a Contribution so far this year in support of our Lists. It is your generosity that keeps this operation a float and I don't ever forget it. Hopefully everyone feels the same. The List Contribution Web Site is fast and easy. Please support our habit by making your Contribution right now: http://www.matronics.com/contribution Thank you to all in advance! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
From: Brent Blue <brentblue(at)wyoming.com>
Subject: Grand Rapids EIS
Date: Dec 06, 2009
Does anyone know what the proper TachR setting is for the EIS for the Grand Rapids system display? The book says 16 but it does not seem to work with their EFIS display. Thanks. Brent ________________________________________________________________________________
From: kevin kimball <kjkimball(at)aol.com>
Subject: Re: Grand Rapids EIS
Date: Dec 06, 2009
19 Sincerely, Kevin Kimball, Vice President Jim Kimball Enterprises, Inc. PO Box 849 5354 Cemetery Road Zellwood, FL 32798-0849 407.889.3451 phone 407.889.7168 fax www.pittsmodel12.com www.jimkimballenterprises.com Email: Kevin(at)jimkimballenterprises.com On Dec 6, 2009, at 10:15 AM, Brent Blue wrote: > > > > Does anyone know what the proper TachR setting is for the EIS for > the Grand Rapids system display? The book says 16 but it does not > seem to work with their EFIS display. > > Thanks. > > Brent > > ________________________________________________________________________________
From: Brent Blue <brentblue(at)wyoming.com>
Subject: Grand Rapids EIS (correction)
Date: Dec 06, 2009
That 16 should have said 19! Thanks Ben! Does anyone know what the proper TachR setting is for the EIS for the Grand Rapids system display? The book says 16 but it does not seem to work with their EFIS display. Thanks. Brent ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Dec 21, 2009
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: 2009 List of Contributors
Dear Listers, The 2009 Matronics Email List and Forum Fund Raiser officially ended a couple of weeks ago and its time that I publish this year's List of Contributors. Its the people on this list that directly make the Email Lists and Forums possible. Their generous contributions keep the servers and Internet connection up and running. You can still show your support this year and pick up a great gift at the same time. The Contribution Web Site is fast, easy, and secure: http://www.matronics.com/contribution I also want to thank Bob, Jon, Andy, and John for their generous support through the supply of great gifts this year!! These guys have some great products and I encourage you to visit their respective web sites: Bob Nucklolls - AeroElectric - www.aeroelectric.com Jon Croke - HomebuiltHELP - www.homebuilthelp.com Andy Gold - The Builder's Bookstore - www.buildersbooks.com John Caldwell - HowToCrimp - www.howtocrimp.com And finally, I'm proud to present The 2009 Fund Raiser List of Contributors: http://www.matronics.com/loc/2009.html Thanks again to everyone that made a Contribution this year!! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List and Forum Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Murphy Moose
From: "HBaker" <henry.baker(at)nf.sympatico.ca>
Date: Jan 08, 2010
Who do you talk to now about building the Murphy Moose?? Henry Moose 294 -------- Currently building a Murphy Moose - any help would be appreciated. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=280733#280733 ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jan 08, 2010
Subject: Re: Murphy Moose
From: Jeff Micheal <westcoastkitplanes(at)gmail.com>
Well Henry, You can always go to "the builder's site" http://www.dcsol.com/murphy-rebel/there are builder/owners of Rebel, Elite and SR Series Kits.... which includes the Moose. >From what I recall, I assisted you each and every time I could. Happy New Year. Jeff (Chilliwack, BC) On Fri, Jan 8, 2010 at 12:41 PM, HBaker wrote: > henry.baker(at)nf.sympatico.ca> > > Who do you talk to now about building the Murphy Moose?? > > Henry Moose 294 > > -------- > Currently building a Murphy Moose - any help would be appreciated. > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=280733#280733 > > ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Murphy Moose
From: "HBaker" <henry.baker(at)nf.sympatico.ca>
Date: Jan 09, 2010
Hi Jeff Happy New to you also, and yes you helped me every time I asked without a any hesitation. But I heard you were not working with Murphy anymore?? -------- Currently building a Murphy Moose - any help would be appreciated. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=280788#280788 ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jan 09, 2010
Subject: Re: Murphy Moose
From: Jeff Micheal <westcoastkitplanes(at)gmail.com>
Hi Henry, Sounds like the Moose Project is coming along........ been following your progress (in the background) like many other people. Yes, been gone from Murphy for 6 - 7 months; currently back there to "clean up" emails that have been overlooked. Let me know when you're up and flying, sure would like to keep in touch. Cheers, Jeff (Chilliwack, BC) On Sat, Jan 9, 2010 at 5:44 AM, HBaker wrote: > henry.baker(at)nf.sympatico.ca> > > Hi Jeff > > Happy New to you also, and yes you helped me every time I asked without a > any hesitation. But I heard you were not working with Murphy anymore?? > > -------- > Currently building a Murphy Moose - any help would be appreciated. > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=280788#280788 > > ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Murphy Moose
From: "HBaker" <henry.baker(at)nf.sympatico.ca>
Date: Jan 12, 2010
Hi Jeff Getting ready to start the engine , can this be done with out the wings attached to the A/C. Henry Moose 294 -------- Currently building a Murphy Moose - any help would be appreciated. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=281207#281207 ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Greg Young" <gyoung@cs-sol.com>
Subject: Re: Murphy Moose
Date: Jan 12, 2010
I'm not sure how stabile the Moose is but there's a video floating around the web of a Lancair IV that started his engine sans wings. He wrapped it in a ball. Why risk it? Regards, Greg Young > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-murphymoose-list-server(at)matronics.com > [mailto:owner-murphymoose-list-server(at)matronics.com] On > Behalf Of HBaker > Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2010 4:45 PM > To: murphymoose-list(at)matronics.com > Subject: MurphyMoose-List: Re: Murphy Moose > > --> > > Hi Jeff > > Getting ready to start the engine , can this be done with > out the wings attached to the A/C. > > Henry > > Moose 294 > > ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jan 12, 2010
Subject: Re: Murphy Moose
From: Jeff Micheal <westcoastkitplanes(at)gmail.com>
Hi Henry, Are you going to video your start up ? The only Murphy start up without wings that I know of is the Rebel Radial, the wheels chocked and aircraft tail was secured. So you can start up without wings on a Rebel, I can't say if it would be the same for the Moose....... Cheers, Jeff Good luck with the start up........ hope everything goes well. Be Safe. On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 2:45 PM, HBaker wrote: > henry.baker(at)nf.sympatico.ca> > > Hi Jeff > > Getting ready to start the engine , can this be done with out the wings > attached to the A/C. > > Henry > > Moose 294 > > -------- > Currently building a Murphy Moose - any help would be appreciated. > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=281207#281207 > > ________________________________________________________________________________
From: Sylvain April <sapril001(at)hotmail.com>
Subject: RE: MurphyMoose-List Digest: 3 Msgs - 01/12/10
Date: Jan 13, 2010
Hi=2C I ram my moose radial without the wings=2C you must make sure your fuselage it is well attached because this engine is pulling really hard. Regards Sylvain April > Date: Tue=2C 12 Jan 2010 23:56:51 -0800 > From: murphymoose-list(at)matronics.com > To: murphymoose-list-digest(at)matronics.com > Subject: MurphyMoose-List Digest: 3 Msgs - 01/12/10 > > * > > ======================== > Online Versions of Today's List Digest Archive > ======================== > > Today's complete MurphyMoose-List Digest can also be found in either of t he > two Web Links listed below. The .html file includes the Digest formatted > in HTML for viewing with a web browser and features Hyperlinked Indexes > and Message Navigation. The .txt file includes the plain ASCII version > of the MurphyMoose-List Digest and can be viewed with a generic text edit or > such as Notepad or with a web browser. > > HTML Version: > > http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=html& Chapter 10-01-12&Archive=MurphyMoose > > Text Version: > > http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=txt&C hapter 10-01-12&Archive=MurphyMoose > > > ======================== ======================= > EMail Version of Today's List Digest Archive > ======================== ======================= > > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > MurphyMoose-List Digest Archive > --- > Total Messages Posted Tue 01/12/10: 3 > ---------------------------------------------------------- > > > Today's Message Index: > ---------------------- > > 1. 02:45 PM - Re: Murphy Moose (HBaker) > 2. 04:09 PM - Re: Re: Murphy Moose (Greg Young) > 3. 04:51 PM - Re: Re: Murphy Moose (Jeff Micheal) > > > > ________________________________ Message 1 ______________________________ _______ > > > Subject: MurphyMoose-List: Re: Murphy Moose > From: "HBaker" <henry.baker(at)nf.sympatico.ca> > > > Hi Jeff > > Getting ready to start the engine =2C can this be done with out the wings attached > to the A/C. > > Henry > > Moose 294 > > -------- > Currently building a Murphy Moose - any help would be appreciated. > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=281207#281207 > > > ________________________________ Message 2 ______________________________ _______ > > > From: "Greg Young" <gyoung@cs-sol.com> > Subject: RE: MurphyMoose-List: Re: Murphy Moose > > > I'm not sure how stabile the Moose is but there's a video floating around > the web of a Lancair IV that started his engine sans wings. He wrapped it in > a ball. Why risk it? > > Regards=2C > Greg Young > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-murphymoose-list-server(at)matronics.com > > [mailto:owner-murphymoose-list-server(at)matronics.com] On > > Behalf Of HBaker > > Sent: Tuesday=2C January 12=2C 2010 4:45 PM > > To: murphymoose-list(at)matronics.com > > Subject: MurphyMoose-List: Re: Murphy Moose > > > > --> > > > > Hi Jeff > > > > Getting ready to start the engine =2C can this be done with > > out the wings attached to the A/C. > > > > Henry > > > > Moose 294 > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 3 ______________________________ _______ > > > Subject: Re: MurphyMoose-List: Re: Murphy Moose > From: Jeff Micheal <westcoastkitplanes(at)gmail.com> > > Hi Henry=2C > > Are you going to video your start up ? > > The only Murphy start up without wings that I know of is the Rebel Radial =2C > the wheels chocked and aircraft tail was secured. So you can start up > without wings on a Rebel=2C I can't say if it would be the same for the > Moose....... > > Cheers=2C > Jeff > > Good luck with the start up........ hope everything goes well. Be Safe. > > > On Tue=2C Jan 12=2C 2010 at 2:45 PM=2C HBaker wrote: > > > henry.baker(at)nf.sympatico.ca> > > > > Hi Jeff > > > > Getting ready to start the engine =2C can this be done with out the win gs > > attached to the A/C. > > > > Henry > > > > Moose 294 > > > > -------- > > Currently building a Murphy Moose - any help would be appreciated. > > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=281207#281207 > > > > > > > > =========== =========== =========== =========== > > > > _________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "DAVID STROUD" <dstroud(at)xplornet.com>
Subject: Re: RE: MurphyMoose-List Digest: 3 Msgs - 01/12/10
Date: Jan 13, 2010
Hello, Sylvain. Any chance you may have a fuel system diagram you could let me have a copy of, please ? I need to understand everything forward of the gascolator including any fuel returns to main tank(s) and electric boost pump. Thank you. David Stroud Ottawa, Canada Christavia C-FDWS Fairchild 51 replica under construction C-FYXV ----- Original Message ----- From: Sylvain April To: murphymoose-list(at)matronics.com Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 5:36 AM Subject: MurphyMoose-List: RE: MurphyMoose-List Digest: 3 Msgs - 01/12/10 Hi, I ram my moose radial without the wings, you must make sure your fuselage it is well attached because this engine is pulling really hard. Regards Sylvain April > Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2010 23:56:51 -0800 > From: murphymoose-list(at)matronics.com > To: murphymoose-list-digest(at)matronics.com > Subject: MurphyMoose-List Digest: 3 Msgs - 01/12/10 > > * > > > Online Versions of Today's List Digest Archive > > > Today's complete MurphyMoose-List Digest can also be found in either of the > two Web Links listed below. The .html file includes the Digest formatted > in HTML for viewing with a web browser and features Hyperlinked Indexes > and Message Navigation. The .txt file includes the plain ASCII version > of the MurphyMoose-List Digest and can be viewed with a generic text editor > such as Notepad or with a web browser. > > HTML Version: > > http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=html& Chapter 10-01-12&Archive=MurphyMoose > > Text Version: > > http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=txt&C hapter 10-01-12&Archive=MurphyMoose > > > ====================== > EMail Version of Today's List Digest Archive > ====================== > > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > MurphyMoose-List Digest Archive > --- > Total Messages Posted Tue 01/12/10: 3 > ---------------------------------------------------------- > > > Today's Message Index: > ---------------------- > > 1. 02:45 PM - Re: Murphy Moose (HBaker) > 2. 04:09 PM - Re: Re: Murphy Moose (Greg Young) > 3. 04:51 PM - Re: Re: Murphy Moose (Jeff Micheal) > > > > ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ > > > Subject: MurphyMoose-List: Re: Murphy Moose > From: "HBaker" <henry.baker(at)nf.sympatico.ca> > > > Hi Jeff > > Getting ready to start the engine , can this be done with out the wings attached > to the A/C. > > Henry > > Moose 294 > > -------- > Currently building a Murphy Moose - any help would be appreciated. > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=281207#281207 > > > ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ > > > From: "Greg Young" <gyoung@cs-sol.com> > Subject: RE: MurphyMoose-List: Re: Murphy Moose > > > I'm not sure how stabile the Moose is but there's a video floating around > the web of a Lancair IV that started his engine sans wings. He wrapped it in > a ball. Why risk it? > > Regards, > Greg Young > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-murphymoose-list-server(at)matronics.com > > [mailto:owner-murphymoose-list-server(at)matronics.com] On > > Behalf Of HBaker > > Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2010 4:45 PM > > To: murphymoose-list(at)matronics.com > > Subject: MurphyMoose-List: Re: Murphy Moose > > > > --> > > > > Hi Jeff > > > > Getting ready to start the engine , can this be done with > > out the wings attached to the A/C. > > > > Henry > > > > Moose 294 > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ > > > Subject: Re: MurphyMoose-List: Re: Murphy Moose > From: Jeff Micheal <westcoastkitplanes(at)gmail.com> > > Hi Henry, > > Are you going to video your start up ? > > The only Murphy start up without wings that I know of is the Rebel Radial, > the wheels chocked and aircraft tail was secured. So you can start up > without wings on a Rebel, I can't say if it would be the same for the > Moose....... > > Cheers, > Jeff > > Good luck with the start up........ hope everything goes well. Be Safe. > > > On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 2:45 PM, HBaker wrote: > > > henry.baker(at)nf.sympatico.ca> > > > > Hi Jeff > > > > Getting ready to start the engine , can this be done with out the wings > > attached to the A/C. > > > > Henry > > > > Moose 294 > > > > -------- > > Currently building a Murphy Moose - any help would be appreciated. > > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=281207#281207 > > > > > > ===================== >==================== > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- Spread the cheer with Messenger for mobile. Learn more. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- Checked by AVG - www.avg.com 01/12/10 07:35:00 ________________________________________________________________________________
From: jwill3638(at)aol.com
Date: Jan 13, 2010
Subject: Re: MurphyMoose-List Digest: 3 Msgs - 01/12/10
Murphy started their M14P Moose behind the factory tied to a fork lift. They had a video on the web site for a while.I ran mine for a couple hours tied to a John Deer. No wings. Jim Williams. ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "George Coy" <george(at)gesoco.com>
Subject: RE: MurphyMoose-List Digest: 3 Msgs - 01/12/10
Date: Jan 13, 2010
I have to comment on the fuel system design for the Moose.There has been at least one accident that can be traced to a poor fuel system design. When designing the fuel system please bear in mind that the pressure carburetor is like a throttle body injection system. there is no float bowl or and storage of fuel in the carburetor. One drop of air and it is like turning the magnetos to the OFF position until the air is worked through the engine. Worse yet if there is a slug of air it can cause the mechanical fuel pump to cavitate and the fuel pressure to drop. It is called a pressure carb because it requires fuel pressure to work. No pressure and no fuel. It is rather instantaneous. We highly recommend a vapor return system as part of your fuel system. It allows fuel to be returned to the header or main tank. Another gotcha is a partial loop with a horizontal section of the fuel line between the pump and the carburetor. This is often done to accommodate a fuel flow sensor. It can trap a bubble of air that will move along to the carb when the aircraft changes pitch and or at high power settings. (Like take Off). The Yaks use a system with a return line with a restrictor in it . This allows the pump to maintain fuel pressure while allowing for a fuel return path for any vapors or air. George Coy Motorstar NA 714 Airport Rd. Swanton VT 05488 802-868-5633 off 802-363-5782 cell george.coy(at)gmail.com SKYPE george.coy motorstarna.com _____ From: owner-murphymoose-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-murphymoose-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of DAVID STROUD Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 6:43 AM Subject: Re: MurphyMoose-List: RE: MurphyMoose-List Digest: 3 Msgs - 01/12/10 Hello, Sylvain. Any chance you may have a fuel system diagram you could let me have a copy of, please ? I need to understand everything forward of the gascolator including any fuel returns to main tank(s) and electric boost pump. Thank you. David Stroud Ottawa, Canada Christavia C-FDWS Fairchild 51 replica under construction C-FYXV ----- Original Message ----- From: Sylvain <mailto:sapril001(at)hotmail.com> April Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 5:36 AM Subject: MurphyMoose-List: RE: MurphyMoose-List Digest: 3 Msgs - 01/12/10 Hi, I ram my moose radial without the wings, you must make sure your fuselage it is well attached because this engine is pulling really hard. Regards Sylvain April > Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2010 23:56:51 -0800 > From: murphymoose-list(at)matronics.com > To: murphymoose-list-digest(at)matronics.com > Subject: MurphyMoose-List Digest: 3 Msgs - 01/12/10 > > * > > > Online Versions of Today's List Digest Archive > > > Today's complete MurphyMoose-List Digest can also be found in either of the > two Web Links listed below. The .html file includes the Digest formatted > in HTML for viewing with a web browser and features Hyperlinked Indexes > and Message Navigation. The .txt file includes the plain ASCII version > of the MurphyMoose-List Digest and can be viewed with a generic text editor > such as Notepad or with a web browser. > > HTML Version: > > http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=html&Chapter 10-01-12&Archive=MurphyMoose > > Text Version: > > http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=txt&Chapter 2010-01-12&Archive=MurphyMoose > > > ====================== > EMail Version of Today's List Digest Archive > ====================== > > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > MurphyMoose-List Digest Archive > --- > Total Messages Posted Tue 01/12/10: 3 > ---------------------------------------------------------- > > > Today's Message Index: > ---------------------- > > 1. 02:45 PM - Re: Murphy Moose (HBaker) > 2. 04:09 PM - Re: Re: Murphy Moose (Greg Young) > 3. 04:51 PM - Re: Re: Murphy Moose (Jeff Micheal) > > > > ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ > > > Subject: MurphyMoose-List: Re: Murphy Moose > From: "HBaker" <henry.baker(at)nf.sympatico.ca> > > > Hi Jeff > > Getting ready to start the engine , can this be done with out the wings attached > to the A/C. > > Henry > > Moose 294 > > -------- > Currently building a Murphy Moose - any help would be appreciated. > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=281207#281207 > > > ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ > > > From: "Greg Young" <gyoung@cs-sol.com> > Subject: RE: MurphyMoose-List: Re: Murphy Moose > > > I'm not sure how stabile the Moose is but there's a video floating around > the web of a Lancair IV that started his engine sans wings. He wrapped it in > a ball. Why risk it? > > Regards, > Greg Young > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-murphymoose-list-server(at)matronics.com > > [mailto:owner-murphymoose-list-server(at)matronics.com] On > > Behalf Of HBaker > > Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2010 4:45 PM > > To: murphymoose-list(at)matronics.com > > Subject: MurphyMoose-List: Re: Murphy Moose > > > > --> > > > > Hi Jeff > > > > Getting ready to start the engine , can this be done with > > out the wings attached to the A/C. > > > > Henry > > > > Moose 294 > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ > > > Subject: Re: MurphyMoose-List: Re: Murphy Moose > From: Jeff Micheal <westcoastkitplanes(at)gmail.com> > > Hi Henry, > > Are you going to video your start up ? > > The only Murphy start up without wings that I know of is the Rebel Radial, > the wheels chocked and aircraft tail was secured. So you can start up > without wings on a Rebel, I can't say if it would be the same for the > Moose....... > > Cheers, > Jeff > > Good luck with the start up........ hope everything goes well. Be Safe. > > > On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 2:45 PM, HBaker wrote: > > > henry.baker(at)nf.sympatico.ca> > > > > Hi Jeff > > > > Getting ready to start the engine , can this be done with out the wings > > attached to the A/C. > > > > Henry > > > > Moose 294 > > > > -------- > > Currently building a Murphy Moose - any help would be appreciated. > > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=281207#281207 > > > > > > ===================== >==================== > > > > _____ Spread the cheer with Messenger for mobile. 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Subject: Re: Murphy Moose
From: "HBaker" <henry.baker(at)nf.sympatico.ca>
Date: Jan 13, 2010
I definitely won't be starting it with out being tied down for sure, and I may do a video, but I'm not to good with the computer so it may take a while to get on the web. I would like to share some of my photos too. I know the best pics of the moose that I found, and the most help other than this site, is the one called 'Go Fly a Moose' and without it I would have been lost, because I am in Newfoundland Canada and haven't even seen one!!!!! Henry Moose 294 -------- Currently building a Murphy Moose - any help would be appreciated. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=281322#281322 ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jan 13, 2010
Subject: Re: Murphy Moose
From: Jeff Micheal <westcoastkitplanes(at)gmail.com>
Hi Henry, I can't believe you have NEVER seen a Moose, I read that Newfoundland moose populations are estimated between 120,000 to 150,000. But I bet none of those Moose can fly. Good to hear your at the engine start phase, next thing you know you'll be flyin' Cheers, Jeff On Wed, Jan 13, 2010 at 12:29 PM, HBaker wrote: > henry.baker(at)nf.sympatico.ca> > > I definitely won't be starting it with out being tied down for sure, and I > may do a video, but I'm not to good with the computer so it may take a while > to get on the web. I would like to share some of my photos too. I know the > best pics of the moose that I found, and the most help other than this site, > is the one called 'Go Fly a Moose' and without it I would have been lost, > because I am in Newfoundland Canada and haven't even seen one!!!!! > > > Henry Moose 294 > > -------- > Currently building a Murphy Moose - any help would be appreciated. > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=281322#281322 > > ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "George Coy" <george(at)gesoco.com>
Subject: yMoose-List:Moose bits
Date: Jan 14, 2010
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From: "DAVID STROUD" <dstroud(at)xplornet.com>
Subject: Moose style fuel system diagram needed
Date: Jan 15, 2010
Giday George. Do you know if anyone has a diagram of an appropriate fuel system for a homebuilt similar to a Moose ? My Fairchild will have three tanks leading to a common manifold and then on to the gascolator etc., but I'm not familiar with the Huosai system needs after the gascolator. I'm thinking it must be very similar to the needs of an M14P. I've appealed to two lists for help with this but to no avail. I'd sure be willing to pay for a diagram. I'm not sure if I need a debubbler and I'm not sure if the pressure carb has it's own relief for excess fuel/ vapour or does that have to get built into the fuel supply just before the carb ? I hear it is a good thing to use an aux electric fuel pump for backup and prime and would like to build that in. I don't plan to do any flying inverted or such. Thanks. David Stroud Ottawa, Canada Christavia C-FDWS Fairchild 51 replica under construction C-FYXV ----- Original Message ----- From: George Coy To: murphymoose-list(at)matronics.com Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 2:56 PM Subject: RE: MurphyMoose-List: RE: MurphyMoose-List Digest: 3 Msgs - 01/12/10 I have to comment on the fuel system design for the Moose.There has been at least one accident that can be traced to a poor fuel system design. When designing the fuel system please bear in mind that the pressure carburetor is like a throttle body injection system. there is no float bowl or and storage of fuel in the carburetor. One drop of air and it is like turning the magnetos to the OFF position until the air is worked through the engine. Worse yet if there is a slug of air it can cause the mechanical fuel pump to cavitate and the fuel pressure to drop. It is called a pressure carb because it requires fuel pressure to work. No pressure and no fuel. It is rather instantaneous. We highly recommend a vapor return system as part of your fuel system. It allows fuel to be returned to the header or main tank. Another gotcha is a partial loop with a horizontal section of the fuel line between the pump and the carburetor. This is often done to accommodate a fuel flow sensor. It can trap a bubble of air that will move along to the carb when the aircraft changes pitch and or at high power settings. (Like take Off). The Yaks use a system with a return line with a restrictor in it . This allows the pump to maintain fuel pressure while allowing for a fuel return path for any vapors or air. George Coy Motorstar NA 714 Airport Rd. Swanton VT 05488 802-868-5633 off 802-363-5782 cell george.coy(at)gmail.com SKYPE george.coy motorstarna.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- From: owner-murphymoose-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-murphymoose-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of DAVID STROUD Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 6:43 AM To: murphymoose-list(at)matronics.com Subject: Re: MurphyMoose-List: RE: MurphyMoose-List Digest: 3 Msgs - 01/12/10 Hello, Sylvain. Any chance you may have a fuel system diagram you could let me have a copy of, please ? I need to understand everything forward of the gascolator including any fuel returns to main tank(s) and electric boost pump. Thank you. David Stroud Ottawa, Canada Christavia C-FDWS Fairchild 51 replica under construction C-FYXV ----- Original Message ----- From: Sylvain April To: murphymoose-list(at)matronics.com Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 5:36 AM Subject: MurphyMoose-List: RE: MurphyMoose-List Digest: 3 Msgs - 01/12/10 Hi, I ram my moose radial without the wings, you must make sure your fuselage it is well attached because this engine is pulling really hard. Regards Sylvain April > Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2010 23:56:51 -0800 > From: murphymoose-list(at)matronics.com > To: murphymoose-list-digest(at)matronics.com > Subject: MurphyMoose-List Digest: 3 Msgs - 01/12/10 > > * > > > Online Versions of Today's List Digest Archive > > > Today's complete MurphyMoose-List Digest can also be found in either of the > two Web Links listed below. The .html file includes the Digest formatted > in HTML for viewing with a web browser and features Hyperlinked Indexes > and Message Navigation. The .txt file includes the plain ASCII version > of the MurphyMoose-List Digest and can be viewed with a generic text editor > such as Notepad or with a web browser. > > HTML Version: > > http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=html& Chapter 10-01-12&Archive=MurphyMoose > > Text Version: > > http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=txt&C hapter 10-01-12&Archive=MurphyMoose > > > ====================== > EMail Version of Today's List Digest Archive > ====================== > > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > MurphyMoose-List Digest Archive > --- > Total Messages Posted Tue 01/12/10: 3 > ---------------------------------------------------------- > > > Today's Message Index: > ---------------------- > > 1. 02:45 PM - Re: Murphy Moose (HBaker) > 2. 04:09 PM - Re: Re: Murphy Moose (Greg Young) > 3. 04:51 PM - Re: Re: Murphy Moose (Jeff Micheal) > > > > ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ > > > Subject: MurphyMoose-List: Re: Murphy Moose > From: "HBaker" <henry.baker(at)nf.sympatico.ca> > > > Hi Jeff > > Getting ready to start the engine , can this be done with out the wings attached > to the A/C. > > Henry > > Moose 294 > > -------- > Currently building a Murphy Moose - any help would be appreciated. > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=281207#281207 > > > ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ > > > From: "Greg Young" <gyoung@cs-sol.com> > Subject: RE: MurphyMoose-List: Re: Murphy Moose > > > I'm not sure how stabile the Moose is but there's a video floating around > the web of a Lancair IV that started his engine sans wings. He wrapped it in > a ball. Why risk it? > > Regards, > Greg Young > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-murphymoose-list-server(at)matronics.com > > [mailto:owner-murphymoose-list-server(at)matronics.com] On > > Behalf Of HBaker > > Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2010 4:45 PM > > To: murphymoose-list(at)matronics.com > > Subject: MurphyMoose-List: Re: Murphy Moose > > > > --> > > > > Hi Jeff > > > > Getting ready to start the engine , can this be done with > > out the wings attached to the A/C. > > > > Henry > > > > Moose 294 > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ > > > Subject: Re: MurphyMoose-List: Re: Murphy Moose > From: Jeff Micheal <westcoastkitplanes(at)gmail.com> > > Hi Henry, > > Are you going to video your start up ? > > The only Murphy start up without wings that I know of is the Rebel Radial, > the wheels chocked and aircraft tail was secured. So you can start up > without wings on a Rebel, I can't say if it would be the same for the > Moose....... > > Cheers, > Jeff > > Good luck with the start up........ hope everything goes well. Be Safe. > > > On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 2:45 PM, HBaker wrote: > > > henry.baker(at)nf.sympatico.ca> > > > > Hi Jeff > > > > Getting ready to start the engine , can this be done with out the wings > > attached to the A/C. > > > > Henry > > > > Moose 294 > > > > -------- > > Currently building a Murphy Moose - any help would be appreciated. > > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=281207#281207 > > > > > > ===================== >==================== > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- Spread the cheer with Messenger for mobile. 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Date: Jan 16, 2010
From: lawsondj(at)comcast.net
Subject: Re: RE: MurphyMoose-List Digest: 3 Msgs - 01/12/10
George, I, for one, plan to use the "bubbler tank",(pressure vessel) from a Yak with the restrictor and return line. My question concerns where does the return line go back to? In the Yak, the return line goes back to the header tank, but I don't have a header tank in the Moose. I could take the return line to a pair of vented 1.5 gal surge tanks located under the floor . Each surge tank is fed independently from its corresponding wing tank. That means a split in the return line to each surge tank and probably the need for check valves at ends of the return lines. An alternative is to run the return line up to, and couple into, the common vent line between the two wing tanks. Any experience as to which would be better? Also, is a check valve needed in the return line to prevent reverse fuel into the bubbler tank when the fuel system is shut down? Thanks, Jack Joos, SR 193 ----- Original Message ----- From: "George Coy" <george(at)gesoco.com> Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 11:56:18 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: RE: MurphyMoose-List: RE: MurphyMoose-List Digest: 3 Msgs - 01/12/10 I have to comment on the fuel system design for the Moose.There has been at least one accident that can be traced to a poor fuel system design. When designing the fuel system please bear in mind that the pressure carburetor is like a throttle body injection system. there is no float bowl or and storage of fuel in the carburetor. One drop of air and it is like turning the magnetos to the OFF position until the air is worked through the engine. Worse yet if there is a slug of air it can cause the mechanical fuel pump to cavitate and the fuel pressure to drop. It is called a pressure carb because it requires fuel pressure to work. No pressure and no fuel. It is rather instantaneous. We highly recommend a vapor return system as part of your fuel system. It allows fuel to be returned to the header or main tank. Another gotcha is a partial loop with a horizontal section of the fuel line between the pump and the carburetor. This is often done to accommodate a fuel flow sensor. It can trap a bubble of air that will move along to the carb when the aircraft changes pitch and or at high power settings. (Like take Off). The Yaks use a system with a return line with a restrictor in it . This allows the pump to maintain fuel pressure while allowing for a fuel return path for any vapors or air. George Coy Motorstar NA 714 Airport Rd. Swanton VT 05488 802-868-5633 off 802-363-5782 cell george.coy(at)gmail.com SKYPE george.coy motorstarna.com From: owner-murphymoose-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-murphymoose-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of DAVID STROUD Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 6:43 AM Subject: Re: MurphyMoose-List: RE: MurphyMoose-List Digest: 3 Msgs - 01/12/10 Hello, Sylvain. Any chance you may have a fuel system diagram you could let me have a copy of, please ? I need to understand everything forward of the gascolator including any fuel returns to main tank(s) and electric boost pump. Thank you. David Stroud Ottawa, Canada Christavia C-FDWS Fairchild 51 replica under construction C-FYXV ----- Original Message ----- From: Sylvain April Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 5:36 AM Subject: MurphyMoose-List: RE: MurphyMoose-List Digest: 3 Msgs - 01/12/10 Hi, I ram my moose radial without the wings, you must make sure your fuselage it is well attached because this engine is pulling really hard. Regards Sylvain April > Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2010 23:56:51 -0800 > From: murphymoose-list(at)matronics.com > To: murphymoose-list-digest(at)matronics.com > Subject: MurphyMoose-List Digest: 3 Msgs - 01/12/10 > > * > > > Online Versions of Today's List Digest Archive > > > Today's complete MurphyMoose-List Digest can also be found in either of the > two Web Links listed below. The .html file includes the Digest formatted > in HTML for viewing with a web browser and features Hyperlinked Indexes > and Message Navigation. The .txt file includes the plain ASCII version > of the MurphyMoose-List Digest and can be viewed with a generic text editor > such as Notepad or with a web browser. > > HTML Version: > > http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=html&Chapter 10-01-12&Archive=MurphyMoose > > Text Version: > > http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=txt&Chapter 10-01-12&Archive=MurphyMoose > > > ======================= > EMail Version of Today's List Digest Archive > ======================= > > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > MurphyMoose-List Digest Archive > --- > Total Messages Posted Tue 01/12/10: 3 > ---------------------------------------------------------- > > > Today's Message Index: > ---------------------- > > 1. 02:45 PM - Re: Murphy Moose (HBaker) > 2. 04:09 PM - Re: Re: Murphy Moose (Greg Young) > 3. 04:51 PM - Re: Re: Murphy Moose (Jeff Micheal) > > > > ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ > > > Subject: MurphyMoose-List: Re: Murphy Moose > From: "HBaker" <henry.baker(at)nf.sympatico.ca> > > > Hi Jeff > > Getting ready to start the engine , can this be done with out the wings attached > to the A/C. > > Henry > > Moose 294 > > -------- > Currently building a Murphy Moose - any help would be appreciated. > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=281207#281207 > > > ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ > > > From: "Greg Young" <gyoung@cs-sol.com> > Subject: RE: MurphyMoose-List: Re: Murphy Moose > > > I'm not sure how stabile the Moose is but there's a video floating around > the web of a Lancair IV that started his engine sans wings. He wrapped it in > a ball. Why risk it? > > Regards, > Greg Young > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-murphymoose-list-server(at)matronics.com > > [mailto:owner-murphymoose-list-server(at)matronics.com] On > > Behalf Of HBaker > > Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2010 4:45 PM > > To: murphymoose-list(at)matronics.com > > Subject: MurphyMoose-List: Re: Murphy Moose > > > > --> > > > > Hi Jeff > > > > Getting ready to start the engine , can this be done with > > out the wings attached to the A/C. > > > > Henry > > > > Moose 294 > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ > > > Subject: Re: MurphyMoose-List: Re: Murphy Moose > From: Jeff Micheal <westcoastkitplanes(at)gmail.com> > > Hi Henry, > > Are you going to video your start up ? > > The only Murphy start up without wings that I know of is the Rebel Radial, > the wheels chocked and aircraft tail was secured. So you can start up > without wings on a Rebel, I can't say if it would be the same for the > Moose....... > > Cheers, > Jeff > > Good luck with the start up........ hope everything goes well. Be Safe. > > > On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 2:45 PM, HBaker wrote: > > > henry.baker(at)nf.sympatico.ca> > > > > Hi Jeff > > > > Getting ready to start the engine , can this be done with out the wings > > attached to the A/C. > > > > Henry > > > > Moose 294 > > > > -------- > > Currently building a Murphy Moose - any help would be appreciated. > > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=281207#281207 > > > > > > ====================== >===================== > > > > Spread the cheer with Messenger for mobile. 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From: jwill3638(at)aol.com
Date: Jan 16, 2010
Subject: Re: MurphyMoose-List Digest: 6 Msgs - 01/13/10
Hello George, I'm going to take your advice and install a fuel return line. I don't have a filter between the mechanical pump and the carb. Its a straight line. Should I attach the return line before the mechanical pump or after it? I use two facet pumps, one from each fuel tank to keep positive pressure to the mechanical pump. Jim Williams ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "John Clayton" <Claytonfly(at)comcast.net>
Subject: Moose style fuel system diagram needed
Date: Jan 16, 2010
Dave The Pitts Model 12 web site has a basic fuel system layout that should work for the Moose. You can get to it at www.jimkimballenterprises.com and look under the Pitts 12 side. John Clayton Pitts Model 12 From: owner-murphymoose-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-murphymoose-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of DAVID STROUD Sent: Friday, January 15, 2010 5:46 PM Subject: MurphyMoose-List: Moose style fuel system diagram needed Giday George. Do you know if anyone has a diagram of an appropriate fuel system for a homebuilt similar to a Moose ? My Fairchild will have three tanks leading to a common manifold and then on to the gascolator etc., but I'm not familiar with the Huosai system needs after the gascolator. I'm thinking it must be very similar to the needs of an M14P. I've appealed to two lists for help with this but to no avail. I'd sure be willing to pay for a diagram. I'm not sure if I need a debubbler and I'm not sure if the pressure carb has it's own relief for excess fuel/ vapour or does that have to get built into the fuel supply just before the carb ? I hear it is a good thing to use an aux electric fuel pump for backup and prime and would like to build that in. I don't plan to do any flying inverted or such. Thanks. David Stroud Ottawa, Canada Christavia C-FDWS Fairchild 51 replica under construction C-FYXV ----- Original Message ----- From: George Coy <mailto:george(at)gesoco.com> Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 2:56 PM Subject: RE: MurphyMoose-List: RE: MurphyMoose-List Digest: 3 Msgs - 01/12/10 I have to comment on the fuel system design for the Moose.There has been at least one accident that can be traced to a poor fuel system design. When designing the fuel system please bear in mind that the pressure carburetor is like a throttle body injection system. there is no float bowl or and storage of fuel in the carburetor. One drop of air and it is like turning the magnetos to the OFF position until the air is worked through the engine. Worse yet if there is a slug of air it can cause the mechanical fuel pump to cavitate and the fuel pressure to drop. It is called a pressure carb because it requires fuel pressure to work. No pressure and no fuel. It is rather instantaneous. We highly recommend a vapor return system as part of your fuel system. It allows fuel to be returned to the header or main tank. Another gotcha is a partial loop with a horizontal section of the fuel line between the pump and the carburetor. This is often done to accommodate a fuel flow sensor. It can trap a bubble of air that will move along to the carb when the aircraft changes pitch and or at high power settings. (Like take Off). The Yaks use a system with a return line with a restrictor in it . This allows the pump to maintain fuel pressure while allowing for a fuel return path for any vapors or air. George Coy Motorstar NA 714 Airport Rd. Swanton VT 05488 802-868-5633 off 802-363-5782 cell george.coy(at)gmail.com SKYPE george.coy motorstarna.com _____ From: owner-murphymoose-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-murphymoose-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of DAVID STROUD Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 6:43 AM Subject: Re: MurphyMoose-List: RE: MurphyMoose-List Digest: 3 Msgs - 01/12/10 Hello, Sylvain. Any chance you may have a fuel system diagram you could let me have a copy of, please ? I need to understand everything forward of the gascolator including any fuel returns to main tank(s) and electric boost pump. Thank you. David Stroud Ottawa, Canada Christavia C-FDWS Fairchild 51 replica under construction C-FYXV ----- Original Message ----- From: Sylvain April <mailto:sapril001(at)hotmail.com> Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 5:36 AM Subject: MurphyMoose-List: RE: MurphyMoose-List Digest: 3 Msgs - 01/12/10 Hi, I ram my moose radial without the wings, you must make sure your fuselage it is well attached because this engine is pulling really hard. Regards Sylvain April > Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2010 23:56:51 -0800 > From: murphymoose-list(at)matronics.com > To: murphymoose-list-digest(at)matronics.com > Subject: MurphyMoose-List Digest: 3 Msgs - 01/12/10 > > * > > > Online Versions of Today's List Digest Archive > > > Today's complete MurphyMoose-List Digest can also be found in either of the > two Web Links listed below. The .html file includes the Digest formatted > in HTML for viewing with a web browser and features Hyperlinked Indexes > and Message Navigation. 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He wrapped it in > a ball. Why risk it? > > Regards, > Greg Young > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-murphymoose-list-server(at)matronics.com > > [mailto:owner-murphymoose-list-server(at)matronics.com] On > > Behalf Of HBaker > > Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2010 4:45 PM > > To: murphymoose-list(at)matronics.com > > Subject: MurphyMoose-List: Re: Murphy Moose > > > > --> > > > > Hi Jeff > > > > Getting ready to start the engine , can this be done with > > out the wings attached to the A/C. > > > > Henry > > > > Moose 294 > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ > > > Subject: Re: MurphyMoose-List: Re: Murphy Moose > From: Jeff Micheal <westcoastkitplanes(at)gmail.com> > > Hi Henry, > > Are you going to video your start up ? > > The only Murphy start up without wings that I know of is the Rebel Radial, > the wheels chocked and aircraft tail was secured. 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Date: Jan 18, 2010
From: e fisk <evanfisk(at)shaw.ca>
Subject: Re: MurphyMoose-List Digest: 6 Msgs - 01/13/10
my moose fuel tanks have 4 fittings on the root ribs. 2 smaller ones up front for fuel site gauge and cross venting. there's a larger one mid tank along bottom edge and a similar sized one near trainilg edge just fore of the flap hinge attach bracket. Plan to install finger strainers and main fuel line to this second most rearward fitting. anybody know what the mid tank fitting is used for? evan fisk Moose sr 282 winnipeg ----- Original Message ----- From: jwill3638(at)aol.com Date: Saturday, January 16, 2010 8:46 am Subject: MurphyMoose-List: Re: MurphyMoose-List Digest: 6 Msgs - 01/13/10 > Hello George, I'm going to take your advice and install a fuel > return > line. I don't have a filter between the mechanical pump > and the carb. Its a > straight line. Should I attach the return line before the > mechanical pump or > after it? I use two facet pumps, one from each fuel tank to keep > positive > pressure to the mechanical > pump. Jim Williams > ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jan 18, 2010
Subject: Re: MurphyMoose-List Digest: 6 Msgs - 01/13/10
From: Jeff Micheal <westcoastkitplanes(at)gmail.com>
Evan, I've never seen 4 fittings on the Root Rib, usually just 3 on the vertical side of the root rib and 1 other fitting (water drain) on the under side. Is this what you have? If not, can you provide a picture and I should be able to make some sense out of it for you. Cheers, Jeff On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 10:23 AM, e fisk wrote: > my moose fuel tanks have 4 fittings on the root ribs. 2 smaller ones up > front for fuel > site gauge and cross venting. > there's a larger one mid tank along bottom edge and a similar sized one > near trainilg edge > just fore of the flap hinge attach bracket. > Plan to install finger strainers and main fuel line to this second most > rearward fitting. > anybody know what the mid tank fitting is used for? > > evan fisk > Moose sr 282 > winnipeg > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: jwill3638(at)aol.com > Date: Saturday, January 16, 2010 8:46 am > Subject: MurphyMoose-List: Re: MurphyMoose-List Digest: 6 Msgs - 01/13/10 > To: murphymoose-list(at)matronics.com > > > Hello George, I'm going to take your advice and install a fuel > > return > > line. I don't have a filter between the mechanical pump > > and the carb. Its a > > straight line. Should I attach the return line before the > > mechanical pump or > > after it? I use two facet pumps, one from each fuel tank to keep > > positive > > pressure to the mechanical > > pump. Jim Williams > > > > * > > * > > ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jan 18, 2010
Subject: Fuel System Schematic for M14 engines.
From: Cliff Coy <cliff.coy(at)gmail.com>
*Good afternoon all, I've attached a schematic for the M14 series engine. If there are any questions, feel free to give me a shout! Best regards, Cliff * -- Clifford Coy Border Air Ltd. 629 Airport Rd. Swanton, VT 05488 802-868-2822 TEL 802-868-4465 FAX Skype: Cliff.Coy ________________________________________________________________________________
From: Michael Kraus <n223rv(at)wolflakeairport.net>
Subject: Re: Fuel System Schematic for M14 engines.
Date: Jan 18, 2010
One question, why would you not put the electric fuel pump inline with the mechanical fuel pump? Inline is typically what the RV guys are doing with Lycoming engines..... -Mike Sent from my iPhone On Jan 18, 2010, at 3:10 PM, Cliff Coy wrote: > Good afternoon all, > > I've attached a schematic for the M14 series engine. > If there are any questions, feel free to give me a shout! > > Best regards, > Cliff > > -- > Clifford Coy > Border Air Ltd. > 629 Airport Rd. > Swanton, VT 05488 > 802-868-2822 TEL > 802-868-4465 FAX > Skype: Cliff.Coy > ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "George Coy" <george(at)gesoco.com>
Subject: RE: Murphy Moose-List: Fuel System Schematic for M14
engines.
Date: Jan 19, 2010
We are dealing with a pressure carb here not a float carburetor. If it was in series with a mechanical pump that is not turning, then it would not allow fuel pressure for starting. Be sure to use an electric pump with the built in check valve. They make them both ways. The built in check valve style for 24v is P/N 40194. The 12v part number is 40176. Both are available from Aircraft Spruce. If you plan to use a fuel flow gage then put it at the outlet of the of the de-bubbler. The M14P carb has an extra fitting by the fuel inlet. In some cases people use this to measure the fuel pressure. As usual on a fuel pressure line we recommend a restrictor in the line at the point where it is measured. Usually a rivet installed in the flair fitting as a plug with a 1/16 or smaller hole in it. If the flexible hose to measure fuel pressure were to break then the indicated pressure would go to zero and alarm the pilot, but stuffiest pressure would remain to keep the engine running. George Coy Motorstar NA 714 Airport Rd. Swanton VT 05488 802-868-5633 off 802-363-5782 cell george.coy(at)gmail.com SKYPE george.coy motorstarna.com ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Murphy Moose
From: "HBaker" <henry.baker(at)nf.sympatico.ca>
Date: Jan 28, 2010
Hi Jeff Just making a airbox, have any idea of the air filter needed for the moose , maybe something from aircraft spruce?? does it have to be oil soaked? Henry moose 294 -------- Currently building a Murphy Moose - any help would be appreciated. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=283840#283840 ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "George Coy" <george(at)gesoco.com>
Subject: Re: Murphy Moose
Date: Jan 28, 2010
If you go to the following flicker link you can see the air box we offer for sale. http://www.flickr.com/photos/borderair/sets/72157623131333305/ George Coy CAS Ltd. 714 Airport Rd. Swanton VT 05488 802-868-5633 off 802-363-5782 cell george.coy(at)gmail.com http://coyafct.com/ SKYPE george.coy -----Original Message----- From: owner-murphymoose-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-murphymoose-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of HBaker Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2010 4:14 PM Subject: MurphyMoose-List: Re: Murphy Moose Hi Jeff Just making a airbox, have any idea of the air filter needed for the moose , maybe something from aircraft spruce?? does it have to be oil soaked? Henry moose 294 -------- Currently building a Murphy Moose - any help would be appreciated. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=283840#283840 ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jan 28, 2010
Subject: Re: Murphy Moose
From: Jeff Micheal <westcoastkitplanes(at)gmail.com>
Hi Henry, Most guys are using K & N air filters or similar performance type. Check out K & N web site and size out your filter for your application (you're making your own box, right?) http://www.knfilters.com/search/universal.aspx Cheers, Jeff On Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 1:13 PM, HBaker wrote: > henry.baker(at)nf.sympatico.ca> > > Hi Jeff > > Just making a airbox, have any idea of the air filter needed for the moose > , maybe something from aircraft spruce?? does it have to be oil soaked? > > Henry moose 294 > > -------- > Currently building a Murphy Moose - any help would be appreciated. > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=283840#283840 > > ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Feb 04, 2010
From: e fisk <evanfisk(at)shaw.ca>
Subject: kimball M14 prop gov. wheel
anybody had any experience installing the Kimball Ent. wheel on the m14 governor input shaft? Wondering how to best rig it- linkage etc. for connection to the Vernier control. Any photos would be much appreciated. How much rotation req'd etc. thx; Evan Fisk Winnipeg, Canada evanfisk(at)shaw.ca Moose SR 282 c-FOBK ________________________________________________________________________________
From: <doug(at)ripleyair.com>
Subject: Re: kimball M14 prop gov. wheel
Date: Feb 04, 2010
Evan, go to www.2wings.com and dig through the photos. I'm sure you'll find several there that answer your questions. Doug Ripley www.ripleyair.com ----- Original Message ----- From: e fisk To: murphymoose-list(at)matronics.com Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2010 9:38 AM Subject: MurphyMoose-List: kimball M14 prop gov. wheel anybody had any experience installing the Kimball Ent. wheel on the m14 governor input shaft? Wondering how to best rig it- linkage etc. for connection to the Vernier control. Any photos would be much appreciated. How much rotation req'd etc. thx; Evan Fisk Winnipeg, Canada evanfisk(at)shaw.ca Moose SR 282 c-FOBK ________________________________________________________________________________
From: JWill3638(at)aol.com
Date: Feb 10, 2010
Subject: Re: MurphyMoose-List Digest: 0 Msgs - 02/09/10
Hi guys, I'm doing the Weight and Balance on my Moose with an M14P and I'm getting conflicting numbers as to the C of G envelope. My manual dated 29/06/98 says FWD is 9.5 and REAR 21.36. I know this is different from the manual that's on line. My manual is not clear as to where the datum was taken but I believe it was the center of the forward spar. The later version is from the center of the main axel, but I think this has moved relative to the spar to accommodate the taller gear for prop clearance. I would like to know the numbers relative to the spar. Thanks, Jim Williams In a message dated 2/10/2010 2:58:22 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, murphymoose-list(at)matronics.com writes: * ================================================= Online Versions of Today's List Digest Archive ================================================= Today's complete Murphy Moose-List Digest can also be found in either of the two Web Links listed below. The .html file includes the Digest formatted in HTML for viewing with a web browser and features Hyperlinked Indexes and Message Navigation. The .txt file includes the plain ASCII version of the Murphy Moose-List Digest and can be viewed with a generic text editor such as Notepad or with a web browser. HTML Version: http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=html&Chapter 10-02-09&Archive=MurphyMoose Text Version: http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=txt&Chapter 2010-02-09&Archive=MurphyMoose =============================================== EMail Version of Today's List Digest Archive =============================================== ---------------------------------------------------------- MurphyMoose-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Tue 02/09/10: 0 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Feb 10, 2010
Subject: Re: MurphyMoose-List Digest: 0 Msgs - 02/09/10
From: Jeff Micheal <westcoastkitplanes(at)gmail.com>
Hi Jim, Datum has been main gear or leading edge of wing ( I don't ever recall it being the spar). Moose (SR3500) Datum is center of main gear. Allowable CG range = 10.8 - 20.4 Cheers, Jeff On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 1:34 PM, wrote: > Hi guys, I'm doing the Weight and Balance on my Moose with an M14P and > I'm getting conflicting numbers as to the C of G envelope. My manual dated > 29/06/98 says FWD is 9.5 and REAR 21.36. I know this is different from the > manual that's on line. My manual is not clear as to where the datum was > taken but I believe it was the center of the forward spar. The later version > is from the center of the main axel, but I think this has moved relative to > the spar to accommodate the taller gear for prop clearance. I would like to > know the numbers relative to the spar. Thanks, Jim Williams > > In a message dated 2/10/2010 2:58:22 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, > murphymoose-list(at)matronics.com writes: > > * > > ================================================= > Online Versions of Today's List Digest Archive > ================================================= > > Today's complete Murphy Moose-List Digest can also be found in either of > the > two Web Links listed below. The .html file includes the Digest formatted > in HTML for viewing with a web browser and features Hyperlinked Indexes > and Message Navigation. The .txt file includes the plain ASCII version > of the Murphy Moose-List Digest and can be viewed with a generic text > editor > such as Notepad or with a web browser. > > HTML Version: > > > http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=html&Chapter 10-02-09&Archive=MurphyMoose > > Text Version: > > > http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=txt&Chapter 10-02-09&Archive=MurphyMoose > > > =============================================== > EMail Version of Today's List Digest Archive > =============================================== > > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > MurphyMoose-List Digest Archive > --- > Total Messages Posted Tue 02/09/10: 0 > ---------------------------------------------------------- > > > Today's Message ================================================= Use > utilities Day =============================================== > - MATRONICS WEB FORUMS =============================================== > - List Contribution Web Site sp; > ================================================== > > > * > > * > > ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Feb 16, 2010
From: e fisk <evanfisk(at)shaw.ca>
Subject: m14 fibreglass cowl instructions.
i have 14 pages of a section 1 guide with photos and instructions for most of the fibreglass work on the moose M14 cowl that ends with cowl flap figures, etc. Is there more insructions /photos somewhere for the cowl supports, braces, doors etc.? no luck on internet search. any ideas greatly appreciated. evan fisk Sr 282 moose winnipeg, man. C-FOBK ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Feb 25, 2010
From: e fisk <evanfisk(at)shaw.ca>
Subject: Fwd: aluminum channel
________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Feb 25, 2010
From: e fisk <evanfisk(at)shaw.ca>
Subject: aluminum channel
Anybody know where to find suppliers of aluminum channel of various heights and widths but only 0.0625(1/16inch) thick. looking for 3/4x2 1/2 x 0.0625 thick. no luck on-line or metal wharehouses, supermarkets. loads of sizes available but all at least 1/8 thick. evan fisk sr282 moose winnipeg. MB c-fobk ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Floats
From: "HBaker" <henry.baker(at)nf.sympatico.ca>
Date: Mar 07, 2010
Looking for a set of amphibious floats for a moose , any info on what to look for. Don't know anything about floats or the different types available , operating in Newfoundland Canada , and it is almost always blowing a living gale, if you know what I mean!! Henry Moose 294 -------- Currently building a Murphy Moose - any help would be appreciated. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=289581#289581 ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Mar 07, 2010
Subject: Re: Floats
From: Jeff Micheal <westcoastkitplanes(at)gmail.com>
Hey Henry, How's everything working out for you? Sounds like you're getting closer to flying her. With regards to floats, the Moose has been mounted on many types. Here's a link http://www.montanafloat.com/3500A.htm to Montana Floats, Keith also has the rigging for the Murphy 2500/3500 series aircraft. Check it out or give Keith a call, he's pretty straight up with his opinions. Cheers, Jeff On Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 6:00 PM, HBaker wrote: > henry.baker(at)nf.sympatico.ca> > > Looking for a set of amphibious floats for a moose , any info on what to > look for. Don't know anything about floats or the different types available > , operating in Newfoundland Canada , and it is almost always blowing a > living gale, if you know what I mean!! > > Henry Moose 294 > > -------- > Currently building a Murphy Moose - any help would be appreciated. > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=289581#289581 > > ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: horizontal stab
From: "HBaker" <henry.baker(at)nf.sympatico.ca>
Date: Mar 28, 2010
Hi Guys Getting ready for paint, and trying to figure out if I can install the horizontal stab and elevator after riveting the fiber glass fairing , it doesn't look like it . Any suggestions on this? It will be hard to paint separately . Henry -------- Currently building a Murphy Moose - any help would be appreciated. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=292097#292097 ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Mar 28, 2010
Subject: Re: horizontal stab
From: Jeff Micheal <westcoastkitplanes(at)gmail.com>
Henry, Cut the fiberglass fairing so the horizontal stab and vertical stab pieces are separate for installation. You could rivet the vertical stab fairing in place, but I would use screws to install the horizontal stab fairing pieces in place; you'll have to remove these pieces at a later date for inspection anyways. Doing it this way will allow you to install elevator and stab. Cheers, Jeff On Sun, Mar 28, 2010 at 12:15 PM, HBaker wrote: > henry.baker(at)nf.sympatico.ca> > > Hi Guys > > Getting ready for paint, and trying to figure out if I can install the > horizontal stab and elevator after riveting the fiber glass fairing , it > doesn't look like it . Any suggestions on this? It will be hard to paint > separately . > > Henry > > -------- > Currently building a Murphy Moose - any help would be appreciated. > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=292097#292097 > > ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: horizontal stab
From: "HBaker" <henry.baker(at)nf.sympatico.ca>
Date: Mar 28, 2010
Not real clear on what you are saying, do I put screws in the whole fairing , Or cut the fairing some where??? -------- Currently building a Murphy Moose - any help would be appreciated. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=292154#292154 ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Mar 28, 2010
Subject: Re: horizontal stab
From: Jeff Micheal <westcoastkitplanes(at)gmail.com>
Henry, You have to cut the fairings. I'll see if I can get a picture to you tomorrow or within a day or two. cheers, Jeff On Sun, Mar 28, 2010 at 6:41 PM, HBaker wrote: > henry.baker(at)nf.sympatico.ca> > > Not real clear on what you are saying, do I put screws in the whole fairing > , Or cut the fairing some where??? > > -------- > Currently building a Murphy Moose - any help would be appreciated. > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=292154#292154 > > ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: horizontal stab
From: "HBaker" <henry.baker(at)nf.sympatico.ca>
Date: Mar 29, 2010
I think we are talking about different fairings , I was talking about the one you get in two pieces and have to join with fiberglass it attaches to the fuselage and the vertical fin, I did not receive any for the ends of the horizontal stab . Henry -------- Currently building a Murphy Moose - any help would be appreciated. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=292177#292177 ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Mar 29, 2010
Subject: Re: horizontal stab
From: Jeff Micheal <westcoastkitplanes(at)gmail.com>
Henry, I was referring to the main fairing (V & H Stab), yes you get it in two halves and have to put it together. But for the ease of doing inspections/maintenance put a cut line in the fairing; separating the V stab from the H stab. I am not referring to the fiberglass tips on the stab, those should be a no brainer. My offer to provide you with a picture of the main stab fairing installation is still open........ If we're on the same page. Cheers, Jeff On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 2:39 AM, HBaker wrote: > henry.baker(at)nf.sympatico.ca> > > I think we are talking about different fairings , I was talking about the > one you get in two pieces and have to join with fiberglass it attaches to > the fuselage and the vertical fin, I did not receive any for the ends of the > horizontal stab . > > > Henry > > -------- > Currently building a Murphy Moose - any help would be appreciated. > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=292177#292177 > > ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: horizontal stab
From: "HBaker" <henry.baker(at)nf.sympatico.ca>
Date: Mar 29, 2010
I'll take you up on the picture , if you can get one, it certainly would be appreciated , and is there fairings for the ends of the horizontal stab and elevator as well ??? -------- Currently building a Murphy Moose - any help would be appreciated. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=292273#292273 ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: horizontal stab
From: "HBaker" <henry.baker(at)nf.sympatico.ca>
Date: Apr 06, 2010
Jeff I have the one on the leading edge of the horizontal stab. -------- Currently building a Murphy Moose - any help would be appreciated. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=293167#293167 ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Apr 06, 2010
Subject: Re: horizontal stab
From: William Taft <bill(at)kidzploration.com>
I found these guys to be very active and very helpful rebel-builders(at)dcsol.com You can sign up on the Merphy sight its at the bottom of one of the pages, don't remember which one but its easy to find cheers Bill On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 8:42 AM, HBaker wrote: > henry.baker(at)nf.sympatico.ca> > > Jeff I have the one on the leading edge of the horizontal stab. > > -------- > Currently building a Murphy Moose - any help would be appreciated. > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=293167#293167 > > ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: horizontal stab
From: "HBaker" <henry.baker(at)nf.sympatico.ca>
Date: Apr 07, 2010
Thanks Bill I'll try to get hold of them. -------- Currently building a Murphy Moose - any help would be appreciated. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=293359#293359 ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Apr 29, 2010
From: Kit layland <kitlayland(at)yahoo.com>
Subject: Murphy Moose - electric flaps
Has anyone considered installing electric flaps and wish to share why they did or did not install?=0ADrawing of how they installed=0AParts used=0AReco mmendations for changes to what they installed=0AGood or bad idea to use el ectric flaps?=0A-=0AKit Layland=0AMoose 213 & 274=0A=0A=0A ________________________________________________________________________________
From: JWill3638(at)aol.com
Date: Apr 30, 2010
Subject: Re: MurphyMoose-List Digest: 1 Msgs - 04/29/10
I did the electric flaps. I bought the ball drive actuator at _www.motionsystem.com_ (http://www.motionsystem.com) I installed the motor on the right, pass side top corner. Its simpler than the hand flap system and probably lighter. JimWilliams In a message dated 4/30/2010 2:57:15 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, murphymoose-list(at)matronics.com writes: * ================================================= Online Versions of Today's List Digest Archive ================================================= Today's complete MurphyMoose-List Digest can also be found in either of the two Web Links listed below. The .html file includes the Digest formatted in HTML for viewing with a web browser and features Hyperlinked Indexes and Message Navigation. The .txt file includes the plain ASCII version of the MurphyMoose-List Digest and can be viewed with a generic text editor such as Notepad or with a web browser. HTML Version: http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=html&Chapter 10-04-29&Archive=MurphyMoose Text Version: http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=txt&Chapter 2010-04-29&Archive=MurphyMoose =============================================== EMail Version of Today's List Digest Archive =============================================== ---------------------------------------------------------- MurphyMoose-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Thu 04/29/10: 1 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 02:52 PM - Murphy Moose - electric flaps (Kit layland) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ From: Kit layland <kitlayland(at)yahoo.com> Subject: MurphyMoose-List: Murphy Moose - electric flaps Has anyone considered installing electric flaps and wish to share why they did or did not install?=0ADrawing of how they installed=0AParts used=0AReco mmendations for changes to what they installed=0AGood or bad idea to use el ectric flaps?=0A-=0AKit Layland=0AMoose 213 & 274=0A=0A=0A ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: May 01, 2010
From: BOB TRIPP <btripp(at)interisland.net>
Subject: Re: Murphy Moose - electric flaps
Kit, Glad I saw your post. We don't have electric flaps, and we are happy with the mechanical setup, mostly because you can get the setting you want immediately rather than waiting for the electric motor drive to do the job. I do have a question for you. With the stock control stick setup we have on our present MYSTERIOUS MOOSE,if you try to roll left or right with the stick aft, you end up hitting the inside of your leg. That cuts off the last several inches of roll control. We do have 5 inches of free play on the stick before we would hit the instrument panel. By changing the length of the elevator cable we can take advantage of that and move the neutral point forward. However, we also may need to modify the stick itself so that we can get more deflection. Have you had any problem with this and found a solution? We have flown off the required 40 hours and have had our phase 1 restrictions removed. We will be doing the float testing later this month, but we want to resolve the control stick problem before then. We think we have a handle on it, but we just want to check with anyone else, if they have a solution they have used. I don't think there's anything unique about our problem, so we think that other builders must have resolved this already. Good to hear from you guys. How far along are you? We can send you pictures if you're interested. Blue skies and all the best ,Bob Tripp On 4/29/2010 7:32 AM, Kit layland wrote: > Has anyone considered installing electric flaps and wish to share why > they did or did not install? > Drawing of how they installed > Parts used > Recommendations for changes to what they installed > Good or bad idea to use electric flaps? > Kit Layland > Moose 213 & 274 > > * > > > * ________________________________________________________________________________
From: Sylvain April <sapril001(at)hotmail.com>
Subject: Weight and ballance
Date: Jun 04, 2010
Hi all=2C I am doing the first weigh and ballance of my Murphy Moose M14P 3500 # on w hells. I have the manual examples=2C those are for a SR2500 model airplane with a maximum of 3000# GW. Can I use the same CG values with the 3500# GW of the Moose. 9" to 20.4" fr om wing leading edge. Thanks Sylvain _________________________________________________________________ MSN Dating: Find someone special. Start now. http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=9734384 ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Stall warning
From: "HBaker" <henry.baker(at)nf.sympatico.ca>
Date: Jun 30, 2010
Hi Does anyone have a stall warning installed on the moose, if so where or how did you find proper location on the leading edge. HENRY -------- Currently building a Murphy Moose - any help would be appreciated. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=303169#303169 ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Tad Sargent" <tadsargent(at)bellsouth.net>
Subject: FS:Trutrak autopilot
Date: Jul 31, 2010
Digitrak http://www.trutrakap.com/products/Digitrak.html Fits Standard 2.25" Round Hole Built-in Ground Track DG Track Select Mode GPS Nav Mode Control Wheel Steering 12 Volts only New DT2 - $1,600 This unit has been used for 123 hours. I bought it from a friend and I intended to install it in the RV8 I am building, my partner does not want an A/P in the plane. Asking price $1300.00 for a barely used unit call 704-591-2035 Tad Sargent TeamRV ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jul 31, 2010
From: e fisk <evanfisk(at)shaw.ca>
Subject: weight and balance
anybody know where to get all the weight and balance info for the moose with m-14 360 hp radial? thx evan evanfisk(at)shaw.ca ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: My Moose is Flying
Date: Sep 29, 2010
From: jwill3638(at)aol.com
11 years later my Moose is flying. Video on youtube. Search: Moose is Loos e. Jim ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Belly Pod / Optional Motorcycle
From: "David Shelton" <SBaircraft(at)yahoo.com>
Date: Oct 26, 2010
I've heard from several Moose owners who were interested in our removable belly pods. The pods may be attached/removed from the airplane in 30 seconds... attach one for additional cargo space near the CG or remove it when you're done. The pods also have a unique "top-loading" option to accommodate bicycles, skis and other bulky items. For pilots who like to get around, the pods may be optionally configured to carry our full-size street-legal motorcycles. After landing, it takes 90 seconds to remove the motorcycle, unfold the handlebars and ride away. The lightweight motorcycles reach 85mph and provide highway transportation for two adults. I believe these products would be a great fit for a utilitarian airplane like the Murphy Moose. Does anyone know how many of these aircraft are flying or under construction? If there's enough interest, I can do the engineering necessary to adapt them to the Moose airframe. If you have a moment, I'd greatly appreciate your participation in a quick survey. I'm trying to learn about the qualities that Moose owners value, what they might carry, etc. The results will be used to develop a pod that's a perfect match for your airplane. http://survey.constantcontact.com/survey/a07e307melpgddbn01t/start Thanks! David Shelton PS - Great demo video on our website: www.MotorcyclePilot.com Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=317141#317141 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/img_3780c_775.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/pilotmag_172.jpg ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 01, 2010
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: PLEASE READ - List Fund Raiser Kickoff!
Dear Listers, Each November I hold a PBS-like fund raiser to support the continued operation and upgrade of the List services at Matronics. It's solely through the Contributions of List members that these Matronics Lists are possible. There is NO advertising to support the Lists. You might have noticed the conspicuous lack of flashing banners and annoying pop-ups on the Matronics Email List email messages and web site pages including: * Matronics List Forums http://forums.matronics.com * Matronics List List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com * Matronics List Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search * Matronics List Browser http://www.matronics.com/listbrowse You don't find advertising on any of these pages because I believe in a List experience that is completely about the sport we all enjoy - namely Airplanes and not about annoying advertisements. During the month of November I will be sending out List messages every couple of days reminding everyone that the Fund Raiser is underway. I ask for your patience and understanding during the Fund Raiser and throughout these regular messages. The Fund Raiser is only financial support mechanism I have to pay all of the bills associated with running these Lists. Your personal Contribution counts! Once again, this year I've got a terrific line up of free gifts to go along with the various Contribution levels. Most all of these gifts have been provided by some of the vary members and vendors that you'll find on Matronics Lists and have been either donated or provided at substantially discounted rates. This year, these generous people include: * Bob Nuckolls of the AeroElectric Connection http://www.aeroelectric.com * Andy Gold of the Builder's Bookstore http://www.buildersbooks.com * Jon Croke of HomebuiltHELP http://www.homebuilthelp.com These are extremely generous guys and I encourage you to visit their respective web sites. Each one offers a unique and very useful aviation-related product line. I would like publicly to thank Bob, Andy, and Jon for their generous support of the Lists again this year!! You can make your List Contribution using any one of three secure methods including using a credit card, PayPal, or by personal check. All three methods afford you the opportunity to select one of this year's free gifts with a qualifying Contribution amount!! To make your Contribution, please visit the secure site below: http://www.matronics.com/contribution I would like to thank everyone in advance for their generous financial AND moral support over the years! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator RV-8 Builder and Flyer ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 03, 2010
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: November List Fund Raiser
There is an automatic "squelch button" of sorts for the Fund Raiser messages. Here's how it works... As soon as a List member makes a Contribution through the Matronics Fund Raiser web site, they will instantly cease to receive these Fund Raiser messages for the rest of the month! Its just that simple. I really do appreciate each and every one of your individual Contributions to support the Lists. It is your support that enables me to upgrade the hardware and software that are required to run a List Site such as this one. It also goes to pay for the commercial-grade Internet connection and to pay the huge electric bill to keep the computer gear running and the air conditioner powered on. I run all of the Matronics Email List and Forums sites here locally which allows me to control and monitor every aspect of the system for the utmost in reliably and performance. Your personal Contribution matters because, when combined with other Listers such as yourself, it pays the bills to keep this site up and running. I accept exactly ZERO advertising dollars for the Matronics Lists sites. I can't stand the pop-up ads and all other commercials that are so prevalent on the Internet these days and I particularly don't want to have it on my Email List sites. If you appreciate the ad-free, grass-roots, down-home feel of the Matronics Email Lists, please make a Contribution to keep it that way!! http://www.matronics.com/contribution Thank you! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator [Note that there are certain circumstances where you might still see a Contribution related message. For example, if someone replies to one of the messages, when using the List Browse feature, or when accessing List message via the Forum. The system keys on the given email address and since most of these are anonymous public access methods, there is no simple way to filter them.] ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 05, 2010
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Reminder
Dear Listers, A quick reminder that November is the annual List Fund Raiser. The Matronics Lists are 100% member supported and all of the operational costs are provided for my your Contributions during this time of the year. Your personal Contribution makes a big difference and keeps all of the Matronics Email Lists and Forums completely ad-free. Please make your Contribution today to keep these services up and running! http://www.matronics.com/contribution Thank you in advance! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List and Forum Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 07, 2010
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Please Make A Contribution To Support Your Lists
Dear Listers, There is no advertising income to support the Matronics Email Lists and Forums. The operation is supported 100% by your personal Contributions during the November Fund Raiser. Please make your Contribution today to support the continued operation and upgrade of these services. You can pick up a really nice gift for making your Contribution too! You may use a Credit Card or Paypal at the Matronics Contribution Site here: http://www.matronics.com/contribution or, you can send a personal check to the following address: Matronics / Matt Dralle 581 Jeannie Way Livermore, CA 94550 Thank you in advance for your generous support! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List and Forum Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 09, 2010
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Coming Soon - The List of Contributors - Please Make
A Contribution Today! Each year at the end of the List Fund Raiser, I post a message acknowledging everyone that so generously made a Contribution to support the Lists. Its my way of publicly thanking everyone that took a minute to show their appreciation for the Lists. Please take a moment and assure that your name is on that List of Contributors (LOC)! As a number of members have pointed out over the years, the List seems at least as valuable a building / entertainment tool as your typical magazine subscription! Assure that your name is on this year's LOC! Show others that you appreciate the Lists. Making a Contribution to support the Lists is fast and easy using your Credit card or Paypal on the Secure Web Site: http://www.matronics.com/contribution or by dropping a personal check in the mail to: Matt Dralle / Matronics 581 Jeannie Way Livermore CA 94550 I would like to thank everyone that has so generously made a Contribution thus far in this year's List Fund Raiser! Remember that its YOUR support that keeps these Lists going and improving! Don't forget to include a little comment about how the Lists have helped you! Best regards, Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 11, 2010
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Please Support The Lists...
Dear Listers, Just a reminder that November is the Matronics Email List Fund Raiser month. There are some very nice incentive gifts to choose from as well! Please make your Contribution today at: http://www.matronics.com/contribution or by dropping a personal check in the mail to: Matt Dralle / Matronics 581 Jeannie Way Livermore CA 94550 Thank you! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 12, 2010
From: Enrique Villacrez <evillacrez(at)armstrongpower.com>
Subject: Remove
MurphyMoose-List Digest Server wrote: >* > > ================================================= > Online Versions of Today's List Digest Archive > ================================================= > >Today's complete MurphyMoose-List Digest can also be found in either of the >two Web Links listed below. The .html file includes the Digest formatted >in HTML for viewing with a web browser and features Hyperlinked Indexes >and Message Navigation. The .txt file includes the plain ASCII version >of the MurphyMoose-List Digest and can be viewed with a generic text editor >such as Notepad or with a web browser. > >HTML Version: > > http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=html&Chapter 10-11-11&Archive=MurphyMoose > >Text Version: > > http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=txt&Chapter 10-11-11&Archive=MurphyMoose > > > =============================================== > EMail Version of Today's List Digest Archive > =============================================== > > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > MurphyMoose-List Digest Archive > --- > Total Messages Posted Thu 11/11/10: 1 > ---------------------------------------------------------- > > >Today's Message Index: >---------------------- > > 0. 12:09 AM - Please Support The Lists... (Matt Dralle) > > > >________________________________ Message 0 _____________________________________ > > >From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> >Subject: MurphyMoose-List: Please Support The Lists... > > >Dear Listers, > >Just a reminder that November is the Matronics Email List Fund Raiser month. There >are some very nice incentive gifts to choose from as well! > >Please make your Contribution today at: > > http://www.matronics.com/contribution > >or by dropping a personal check in the mail to: > > Matt Dralle / Matronics > 581 Jeannie Way > Livermore CA 94550 > >Thank you! > >Matt Dralle >Matronics Email List Administrator > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 13, 2010
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Please Make A Contribution...
Dear Listers, A quick reminder that November is the annual List Fund Raiser. The Matronics Lists are 100% member supported and all of the operational costs are provided for my your Contributions during this time of the year. Your personal Contribution makes a big difference and keeps all of the Matronics Email Lists and Forums completely ad-free. Please make your Contribution today to keep these services up and running! http://www.matronics.com/contribution Thank you in advance! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List and Forum Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 15, 2010
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: List Fund Raiser & Some Very Nice Comments...
Dear Listers, I've been getting some really nice comments from Listers along with their List Support Contributions. I've shared some of them below. Please read them over and see what your fellow Listers think of the Lists and Forums. Please make a Contribution today to support the continued upgrade and operation of these services. There are lots of sweet gifts available, so browse the extensive selection and pickup a nice item along with your qualifying Contribution. Contribution Web Site: http://www.matronics.com/contribution Or drop a personal check in the mail to: Matt Dralle / Matronics 581 Jeannie Way Livermore CA 94550 Thank you in advance for your generous support! It is very much appreciated! Best regards, Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ------------------------------------------------------- You are providing a great service. Thanks so very much. David L Keep up the good work! A great website - wish I'd found it earlier! Bob S Thanks for providing a site for information. Jim S Thanks again for providing a great service to our community! Alex M Thanks and keep up the good work! Robert B. Great forum! David S Thanks for providing the Kolb List for the last 12 years. John H Long time lurker, it's a great resource...many thanks. Ian C Your work and effort are greatly appreciated. Nicolas L Thank you very much for keeping the list going! Svein J Thank you for your support to the community. Valin T I am a long time subscriber and a slow builder because of work and two moves, but still enjoy the process and your list. CL M Thanks for providing this service. It can't be beat! Thomas W I'm no longer a builder or flier but I like to keep in touch with the List - which is the best organised list I've seen on the Internet. Gerry C Matt, you are doing a GREAT service to the community of KOLB Builders and Flyers. John B I've been flying for almost two years and still find these Lists as a great resource for information.....now I get to answer a question once-in-a-while too. Ralph C Thanks for this great service. Dale E I couldn't keep on building without the support I get from this List. Thomas S This is a great service to all of us. Michael W I am no longer actively building, but I really like to keep up with what's going on, and I especially like to follow Bob Nuckolls - and your RV-8. Terrence W I really appreciate your work and consider the lists to be a great value. Christopher R Thanks Matt for a great resource! Geoff T Many thanks for providing this service. I love it. William V One of the best Internet Deals going... Owen B Thanks for the great site. Danny S A valuable resource. George A Thanks for running a great list. Ted P ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 17, 2010
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: What's My Contribution Used For?
Dear Listers, Some have asked, "What's my Contribution used for?" and that's a good question. Here are just a few examples of what your direct List support enables. It provides for the very expensive, commercial-grade T1 Internet connection used on the List insuring maximum performance and minimal contention when accessing List services. It pays for the regular system hardware and software upgrades enabling the highest performance possible for services such as the Archive Search Engine, List Browser, and Forums. It pays for narly 20 years (yeah, I really said *20* years) worth of online archive data available for instant random search and access. And, it offsets the many hours spent writing, developing, and maintaining the custom applications that power this List Service such as the List Browse, Search Engine, Forums, and Wiki. But most importantly, your List Contribution enables a forum where you and your peers can communicate freely in an environment that is free from moderation, censorship, advertising, commercialism, SPAM, and computer viruses. How many places on the Internet can you make all those statements these days? It is YOUR CONTRIBUTION that directly enables these many aspects of these valuable List services. Please support it today with your List Contribution. Its one of the best investments you can make in your Sport... List Contribution Web Site: http://www.matronics.com/contribution Or drop a personal check in the mail to: Matt Dralle / Matronics 581 Jeannie Way Livermore CA 94550 Thank you for your support! Matt Dralle Email List Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 19, 2010
From: kitlayland(at)yahoo.com
Subject: Yahoo! Auto Response
On Friday, Saturday and Sunday will be out of town with no E-mail available during the day. On Monday and Tuesday will be at a seminar during the day. ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 19, 2010
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Just A Few Days Left; Well Behind Last Year...
Dear Listers, There are just a few more days left of this year's List Fund Raiser. Response has been good so far, but we're well behind last year at this point. If you've been waiting until the last minute to make your Contribution, now might be good time to show your support and maybe pick up a nice gift as well! Please remember that there is no commercial advertising on these Lists and the *only* means of keeping them running is through your Contributions during this Fund Raiser. If it weren't for your individual Contributions, these Lists could easily become economically infeasible and simply cease to exist. You probably can't even take the family out to dinner for $20 these days, but your individual Contribution of the same amount makes a huge difference in keeping the List services alive. Please make a Contribution today with a Credit Card or Paypal: http://www.matronics.com/contribution Or, drop a personal check in the mail to: Matt Dralle / Matronics 581 Jeannie Way Livermore CA 94550 Thank you! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 21, 2010
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Make Sure You're Listed! List of Contributors Published
in December! Dear Listers, The List of Contributors (LOC) is just around the corner! In December I post a list of everyone that so generously made a Contribution to support the Lists. Its my way of publicly thanking everyone that took a minute to show their appreciation for the Lists. Won't you take minute and assure that your name is on the upcoming LOC? Tell others that you appreciate the Lists. Making a Contribution to support the Lists is fast and easy using your Visa, MasterCard, or Paypal account: http://www.matronics.com/contribution Or, drop a personal check in the mail to: Matt Dralle / Matronics 581 Jeannie Way Livermore CA 94550 USA I would like to thank everyone that has so generously made a Contribution thus far during this year's List Fund Raiser! Remember that its YOUR support that keeps these Lists running and improving! Don't forget to include a little comment about how the Lists have helped you! Thank you! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 22, 2010
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Contributions Down By 17%...
Dear Listers, As of today, Contributions to the Matronics List Fund Raiser are lagging behind last year at this time by roughly 17%. I have a Fund Raiser each year simply to cover my operating costs for the Lists. I *do not* accept any advertising income to support the Lists and rely solely on the Contributions of members to keep the expenses paid. I run all of my own servers and they are housed here locally, and the Internet connection is a commercial-grade, T1 connection with public address space. I also maintain a full backup system that does nightly backups of all List-related data so that in the event of a server crash or worse, all of the Lists and the many years of List archive data could be restored onto a new server in a matter of hours. All of this costs a fair amount of money, not to mention a significant amount of my personal time. I have a Fund Raiser each year to cover these costs and I ask that members that feel they receive a benefit from my investments make a modest Contribution each year to support the continued operation and upgrade of these services. If you enjoy the Lists, please make a Contribution today. I also offer some incentive gifts for larger Contribution levels. At the Contribution Web Wite, you can use a credit card, Paypal, or personal check to show your support for the continuation of these services: http://www.matronics.com/contribution Or, drop a personal check in the mail to: Matt Dralle / Matronics 581 Jeannie Way Livermore CA 94550 USA Thank you for your support! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
From: e fisk <evanfisk(at)shaw.ca>
Date: Nov 22, 2010
Subject: moose brake cylinders
Anybody know the specs on the brake pedal cylinders from MAM? Not able to get the info from the factory right now. Need to replace all the seals. Need a model or part # etc. i hear only certain types of brake fluid can be used in matco cylinders. Similar for MAM cylinders? What type ie:Dot 1 to 5 is acceptable. thx Evan Fisk winnipeg c-FOBK ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 22, 2010
From: jack korycki <jackkorycki(at)yahoo.ca>
Subject: Re: moose brake cylinders
Tr-y this website. Somebody might have an answer for you. rebel-builders(at)dcsol.com --- On Mon, 11/22/10, e fisk wrote: From: e fisk <evanfisk(at)shaw.ca> Subject: MurphyMoose-List: moose brake cylinders Received: Monday, November 22, 2010, 6:10 PM Anybody know the specs on the brake pedal cylinders from MAM?- Not able t o get the info from the factory right now. Need to replace all the seals. N eed a model or part # etc. i hear only certain types of brake fluid can be used in matco cylinders. Si milar for MAM cylinders? What type ie:Dot- 1 to 5- is acceptable. - thx - Evan Fisk winnipeg c-FOBK ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 22, 2010
Subject: Re: moose brake cylinders
From: Cliff Coy <cliff.coy(at)gmail.com>
*Typically the Matco Cylinders used Buna-N seals and therefore should use petroleum or silicone based hydraulic fluid. DOT 3, 4, & 5.1 brake fluids are not compatible with Buna-N O-rings. Compatible are: MIL-H-5606 (Aeroshell Fluid 41)- the most common fluid used in general aviation. MIL-H-83282(Aeroshell Fluid 31 or Royco 782) replaces MIL-H-5606 and is much less flammable. Automatic Transmission fluid ATF-III **DOT 5.0 silicone brake fluid Of all of them, I'd recommend the Fluid 31/Royco 782 as most airports will stock either the 5606 or 83283 fluids. Cheers, Cliff * On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 19:58, jack korycki wrote: > Tr y this website. Somebody might have an answer for you. > rebel-builders(at)dcsol.com > --- On *Mon, 11/22/10, e fisk * wrote: > > > From: e fisk <evanfisk(at)shaw.ca> > Subject: MurphyMoose-List: moose brake cylinders > To: murphymoose-list(at)matronics.com > Received: Monday, November 22, 2010, 6:10 PM > > Anybody know the specs on the brake pedal cylinders from MAM? Not able > to get the info from the factory right now. Need to replace all the seals. > Need a model or part # etc. > i hear only certain types of brake fluid can be used in matco cylinders. > Similar for MAM cylinders? > What type ie:Dot 1 to 5 is acceptable. > > thx > > Evan Fisk > winnipeg > c-FOBK > > * > > ollow target=_blank>www.aeroelectric.com > /" rel=nofollow target=_blank>www.buildersbooks.com > ofollow target=_blank>www.homebuilthelp.com > llow target=_blank>http://www.matronics.com/contribution > st" rel=nofollow target=_blank>http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?MurphyMoose-List > et=_blank>http://forums.matronics.com* > > * > > -- Clifford Coy Border Air Ltd. 629 Airport Rd. Swanton, VT 05488 802-868-2822 TEL 802-868-4465 FAX Skype: Cliff.Coy ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 24, 2010
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Just A Few More Days To Make Your List Contribution...
There is less than a week left in this year's List Fund Raiser and only a few short days to grab one of the great Contribution Gifts available this year. Support is still significantly lagging behind last year at this point but hopefully it will pick up here towards the end. Please remember that it is solely the Contributions of List members that keeps the Lists up and running as there is no commercialism or advertising on the Matronics Lists and Forums. The List Contribution web site is secure, fast, and easy and you can use a credit card, Paypal, or a personal check: http://www.matronics.com/contribution Or, drop a personal check in the mail to: Matt Dralle / Matronics 581 Jeannie Way Livermore CA 94550 USA I want to thank everyone that has already made a generous contribution to support the Lists! Thank you! Matt Dralle Matronics EMail List and Forum Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 25, 2010
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: What Are You Thankful For...?
Dear Listers, Here in the United States, Thursday is our National day of Thanksgiving. Many of us will be traveling to be with our families and friends to share in generous feasts of plenty and giving thanks for the many blessings that have been bestowed upon us. Many Listers have expressed over the last couple of weeks how thankful they are for the Email Lists and Forums here on the Matronics servers and for all of the assistance and comradery they have experienced being a part of the Lists. One of my favorite comments is when someone writes to me and says something like, "Its the first thing I do in the morning while I'm having my morning coffee!". That's a wonderful tribute to the purpose and function of these Lists. Its always great to hear I'm not the only one that jumps out of bed each morning to check my List email!! Won't you take a minute today and show your appreciation for these Lists and for their continued operation and upgrade? The List Contribution Site is: http://www.matronics.com/contribution Or, drop a personal check in the mail to: Matt Dralle / Matronics 581 Jeannie Way Livermore CA 94550 USA Thank you in advance for your kind consideration, Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
From: miguel nelson <inzone5(at)hotmail.com>
Subject: What Are You Thankful For...?
Date: Nov 25, 2010
Matt=2C Quite frankly I find the fact that you are sending out an email on Thank sgiving asking for money pathetic. Thanksgiving is about being with friend s and family not supporting some annoying website that is relegated to my s pam folder. Unlike you=2C I am currently in Penang Malaysia at work=2C awa y from my family on Thanksgiving. I am working for a living=2C not sitting behind a keyboard asking for handouts to support a website. I find your e mails both annoying and undignified. I have plenty of better things to do than "jump out of bed and check my email" each morning. If you want to con tinue the website fine=2C but stop trying to shakedown people for money. I am currently building my second Murphy Moose and I built the first one wit hout using your website. Miguel > Date: Thu=2C 25 Nov 2010 00:15:58 -0800 > To: murphymoose-list(at)matronics.com > From: dralle(at)matronics.com > Subject: MurphyMoose-List: What Are You Thankful For...? > > > > Dear Listers=2C > > Here in the United States=2C Thursday is our National day of Thanksgiving . Many of us will be traveling to be with our families and friends to shar e in generous feasts of plenty and giving thanks for the many blessings tha t have been bestowed upon us. > > Many Listers have expressed over the last couple of weeks how thankful th ey are for the Email Lists and Forums here on the Matronics servers and for all of the assistance and comradery they have experienced being a part of the Lists. One of my favorite comments is when someone writes to me and sa ys something like=2C "Its the first thing I do in the morning while I'm hav ing my morning coffee!". That's a wonderful tribute to the purpose and fun ction of these Lists. Its always great to hear I'm not the only one that j umps out of bed each morning to check my List email!! > > Won't you take a minute today and show your appreciation for these Lists and for their continued operation and upgrade? > > The List Contribution Site is: > > http://www.matronics.com/contribution > > Or=2C drop a personal check in the mail to: > > Matt Dralle / Matronics > 581 Jeannie Way > Livermore CA 94550 > USA > > Thank you in advance for your kind consideration=2C > > Matt Dralle > Matronics Email List Administrator > > =========== =========== =========== =========== > > > ________________________________________________________________________________
From: Hand_73 <intalanmm(at)yahoo.com>
Subject: What Are You Thankful For...?
Date: Nov 25, 2010
-----Original Message----- From: miguel nelson <inzone5(at)hotmail.com> Sent: Thursday, November 25, 2010 8:07 AM Subject: RE: MurphyMoose-List: What Are You Thankful For...? Matt, -- Quite frankly I find the fact that you are sending out an email on T hanksgiving asking for money pathetic. -Thanksgiving is about being with friends and family not supporting some annoying website that is relegated t o my spam folder. -Unlike you, I am currently in Penang Malaysia at work, away from my family on Thanksgiving. -I am working for a living, not sit ting behind a keyboard asking for handouts to support a website. -I find your emails both annoying and undignified. -I have plenty of better thing s to do than "jump out of bed and check my email" each morning. -If you w ant to continue the website fine, but stop trying to shakedown people for m oney. -I am currently building my second Murphy Moose and I built the fir st one without using your website. Miguel > Date: Thu, 25 Nov 2010 00:15:58 -0800 > To: murphymoose-list(at)matronics.com > From: dralle(at)matronics.com > Subject: MurphyMoose-List: What Are You Thankful For...? > > > Dear Listers, > > Here in the United States, Thursday is our National day of Thanksgiving. Many of us will be traveling to be with our families and friends to share i n generous feasts of plenty and giving thanks for the many blessings that h ave been bestowed upon us. > > Many Listers have expressed over the last couple of weeks how thankful th ey are for the Email Lists and Forums here on the Matronics servers and for all of the assistance and comradery they have experienced being a part of the Lists. One of my fa [The entire original message is not included] ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 27, 2010
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: No "Black Friday" For List Fund Raiser...
Dear Listers, Curiously, even though the number of List subscriptions are significantly up this year, support during this year's Fund Raiser is still substantially behind last year. There are only a couple more days left in November and the end of the Fund Raiser is quickly approaching. I have always preferred a non-commercial List experience as many, many members have also expressed that they do as well. However, if the yearly fund raiser cannot generate sufficient funds to keep the bills paid, other sources of income might be required including some sort of advertising. Please don't let that happen! Your personal Contribution of $20 or $30 goes a long ways to keeping the operation a float. Please make sure your name is on this year's List of Contributors published in December. The Contribution site is secure, quick, and easy: http://www.matronics.com/contribution Or, drop a personal check in the mail to: Matt Dralle / Matronics 581 Jeannie Way Livermore CA 94550 USA Thank you in advance for your support! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List and Forum Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 28, 2010
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Just Three Days Left & Some Very Nice Comments...
Dear Listers, There are just three days left in this year's List Fund Raiser. Won't you take a monment and make a quick Contribution today to support the continued upgrade and operation of these Forum services. I've received some more really nice comments from Listers along with their List Support Contributions, and I've share a few below. There are some sweet gifts available this year, so browse the selections and pickup a nice item along with your qualifying Contribution. Contribution Web Site: http://www.matronics.com/contribution Or drop a personal check in the mail to: Matt Dralle / Matronics 581 Jeannie Way Livermore CA 94550 USA Thank you in advance for your generous support! It is very much appreciated! Best regards, Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ------------------------------------------------------- Great resource, keep it coming... Marten V. Thanks for maintaining these essential lists! Rumen D. Great Service! Douglas D. Thanks for this great service! Peter T. Thanks for your enduring support of homebuilding communications! Daniel M. You do a great job and provide a valuable service. Mark B. It's really a great source I have used a lot. Robert K. Reading the RV-10 list is part of my morning routine... Perry C. Great job running these lists. Edward T. Thanks for doing a tough job. Mic T. Your List was such a great resource for me when I built in "98". Ron V. Its a very useful forum. Dave F. Really enjoy your list... William D. Great service, Gerald T. The list still is a valuable source of information and there are many worthwhile postings. Graham H. The list has seen me through an RV-9A, RV-10, and now an RV-12. Albert G. Thanks for a great resource! Barry H. Thank you for maintaining this excellent site. Bill W. The Matronics Email list are an invaluable service. William C. I appreciate the RV-10 list. Vijay P. Thanks for a great list and all of the work you do. Ian W. Thanks for keeping up this very useful list. George R. The list is excellent and I find it very handy for any problems I come up against during construction. Greg W. The lists are an important part of my day. I've met lots of people and made lots of friends. Dave S. It's really a great source I haved used a lot. Robert K. I read the Pietenpol List everyday. PF B. ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 29, 2010
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Make Sure You're Listed!
Dear Listers, The List of Contributors (LOC) is just around the corner with just two more days in this year's Fund Raiser! Later in December I will post a list of everyone that so generously made a Contribution to support the Lists this year. Its my way of publicly thanking everyone that took a minute to show their appreciation for the Lists. Won't you take minute and assure that your name is on the upcoming LOC? Tell others that you appreciate the Lists. Making a Contribution to support the Lists is fast and easy using your Visa, MasterCard, or Paypal account: http://www.matronics.com/contribution Or, by dropping a personal check in the mail to: Matt Dralle / Matronics 581 Jeannie Way Livermore CA 94550 I would like to thank everyone that has so generously made a Contribution thus far during this year's List Fund Raiser! Remember that its YOUR support that keeps these Lists running and improving! Thank you! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 30, 2010
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: [Please Read] - Last Official Day of List Fund Raiser!
Dear Listers, Its November 30th and that means at least two things. For better or worse, its my 47th birthday! But it also means that its that last official day of the Matronics Email List Fund Raiser! If you been drooling over one of the really nice gifts that are available this year with a qualifying Contribution, then now is the time to jump on one!! If you've been meaning to make a Contribution this month but have been putting it off for some reason, NOW is the time! I will be posting the List of Contributors in a few days, so you'll probably want to be known as a person that supported the Lists! I want to thank everyone that has so generously made a Contribution this year in support of our Lists. It is your generosity that keeps this operation running and I don't ever forget it. Hopefully everyone feels the same. The List Contribution Web Site is fast and easy. Please support our habit by making your Contribution right now: http://www.matronics.com/contribution Or, by dropping a personal check in the mail to: Matt Dralle / Matronics 581 Jeannie Way Livermore CA 94550 Thank you to all in advance! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Dec 04, 2010
From: kitlayland(at)yahoo.com
Subject: Yahoo! Auto Response
I will be out of town with limited access to the internet. If important contact me on my cell phone (630)476-3631 ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "George Coy" <george(at)gesoco.com>
Subject: Yahoo! Auto Response
Date: Dec 07, 2010
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Date: Dec 14, 2010
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: 2010 List of Contributors
Dear Listers, The 2010 Matronics Email List and Forum Fund Raiser officially ended a couple of weeks ago and its time that I publish this year's List of Contributors. Its the people on this list that directly make the Email Lists and Forums possible. Their generous contributions keep the servers and Internet connection up and running. You can still show your support this year and pick up a great gift at the same time. The Contribution Web Site is fast, easy, and secure: http://www.matronics.com/contribution Or, by dropping a personal check in the mail to: Matt Dralle / Matronics 581 Jeannie Way Livermore CA 94550 I also want to thank Bob, Jon, and Andy for their generous support through the supply of great gifts this year!! These guys have some great products and I encourage you to visit their respective web sites: Bob Nucklolls - AeroElectric - www.aeroelectric.com Jon Croke - HomebuiltHELP - www.homebuilthelp.com Andy Gold - The Builder's Bookstore - www.buildersbooks.com And finally, I'm proud to present The 2010 Fund Raiser List of Contributors: http://www.matronics.com/loc/2010.html Thanks again to everyone that made a Contribution this year!! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List and Forum Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
From: B-L Pollock <lbpollock(at)sympatico.ca>
Subject: Re: Hydraulic fluid
Date: Jan 20, 2011
I have 3500 Montana floats what type of hydraulic fluid should I use ? Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: "MurphyMoose-List Digest Server" <murphymoose-list(at)matronics.com> Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2011 2:57 AM Subject: MurphyMoose-List Digest: 0 Msgs - 01/19/11 > * > > ================================================= > Online Versions of Today's List Digest Archive > ================================================= > > Today's complete MurphyMoose-List Digest can also be found in either of > the > two Web Links listed below. The .html file includes the Digest formatted > in HTML for viewing with a web browser and features Hyperlinked Indexes > and Message Navigation. The .txt file includes the plain ASCII version > of the MurphyMoose-List Digest and can be viewed with a generic text > editor > such as Notepad or with a web browser. > > HTML Version: > > > http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=html&Chapter 11-01-19&Archive=MurphyMoose > > Text Version: > > > http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=txt&Chapter 11-01-19&Archive=MurphyMoose > > > =============================================== > EMail Version of Today's List Digest Archive > =============================================== > > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > MurphyMoose-List Digest Archive > --- > Total Messages Posted Wed 01/19/11: 0 > ---------------------------------------------------------- > > > Today's Message Index: > ---------------------- > > > ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Rino" <lacombr(at)nbnet.nb.ca>
Subject: Re: Hydraulic fluid
Date: Jan 23, 2011
I use AeroShell fluid 41 for my hydraulics and brales Rino Lacombe ----- Original Message ----- From: "B-L Pollock" <lbpollock(at)sympatico.ca> Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2011 9:12 AM Subject: MurphyMoose-List: Re: Hydraulic fluid > > > I have 3500 Montana floats what type of hydraulic fluid should I use ? > Bill > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "MurphyMoose-List Digest Server" <murphymoose-list(at)matronics.com> > To: "MurphyMoose-List Digest List" > Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2011 2:57 AM > Subject: MurphyMoose-List Digest: 0 Msgs - 01/19/11 > > >> * >> >> ================================================= >> Online Versions of Today's List Digest Archive >> ================================================= >> >> Today's complete MurphyMoose-List Digest can also be found in either of >> the >> two Web Links listed below. The .html file includes the Digest formatted >> in HTML for viewing with a web browser and features Hyperlinked Indexes >> and Message Navigation. The .txt file includes the plain ASCII version >> of the MurphyMoose-List Digest and can be viewed with a generic text >> editor >> such as Notepad or with a web browser. >> >> HTML Version: >> >> >> http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=html&Chapter 11-01-19&Archive=MurphyMoose >> >> Text Version: >> >> >> http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=txt&Chapter 11-01-19&Archive=MurphyMoose >> >> >> =============================================== >> EMail Version of Today's List Digest Archive >> =============================================== >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------- >> MurphyMoose-List Digest Archive >> --- >> Total Messages Posted Wed 01/19/11: 0 >> ---------------------------------------------------------- >> >> >> Today's Message Index: >> ---------------------- >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Jerald Folkerts" <jfolkerts1(at)gmail.com>
Subject: Propeller Requirement
Date: Mar 07, 2011
Gentlemen, As you may recall, I'm building an SR2500 (#093). I'm trying to stick as much as possible to the original plans, but include the modifications that were necessary for strengthening/safety and not those that were specifically designed for the Moose. I've purchased a freshly overhauled Lycoming O-540 A1A5 rebuilt to A4D5 specifications in order to match up with the Murphy recommended Hartzell propeller, the HC-C2YR-1BF/F8477 Propeller with the V-3-7 governor (for the narrow deck) and A-2298-2P spinner. I've been searching all the propeller overhaul folks throughout the US looking for a good used/reconditioned propeller. I've located the same propeller, overhauled, but with F8477-2 blades, 2 inches shorter than the original. It would be an 82" diameter vs. 84" diameter with everything else being equal. My question is how would that affect the performance of the Super Rebel and what should I be considering? The propeller is freshly overhauled and would have another 1-2 overhauls remaining based on the blade specs. Regards, Jerry Folkerts www.mykitlog.com/jfolkerts/ ________________________________________________________________________________
From: Michael Bleau <bleaumichael(at)hotmail.com>
Subject: Propeller Requirement
Date: Mar 07, 2011
the blades being 1 inch shorter each should not make much of a difference b ut the propeller shop should be able to figure that out for you. if they ca nt i would contact another shop as i believe they have computer programs to help with prop selection=2C even contact hartzell directly as i believe i did a few years ago and they were helpful. mike From: jfolkerts1(at)gmail.com Subject: MurphyMoose-List: Propeller Requirement Date: Mon=2C 7 Mar 2011 10:59:02 -0600 Gentlemen=2C As you may recall=2C I=92m building an SR2500 ( #093). I=92m trying to stick as much as possible to the original plans=2C but include the modifications that were necessary for strengthening/safety and not those that were specifically designed for the Moose. I=92ve purcha sed a freshly overhauled Lycoming O-540 A1A5 rebuilt to A4D5 specifications in order to match up with the Murphy recommended Hartzell propeller=2C the HC-C2YR-1BF/F8477 Propeller with the V-3-7 governor (for the narrow deck) and A-2298-2P spinner. I=92ve been searching all the propeller overhaul f olks throughout the US looking for a good used/reconditioned propeller. I =92ve located the same propeller=2C overhauled=2C but with F8477-2 blades =2C 2 inches shorter than the original. It would be an 82=94 diameter vs. 84=94 diameter with everything else being equal. My question is how would that affect the performance of the Super Rebel and what should I be conside ring? The propeller is freshly overhauled and would have another 1-2 overh auls remaining based on the blade specs. Regards=2CJerry Folkerts www.myk itlog.com/jfolkerts/ ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Hydraulic fluid
From: "HBaker" <henry.baker(at)nf.sympatico.ca>
Date: Apr 10, 2011
Thinking about 3500 montana floats on moose 294 , have you flown yours yet? how long is delivery? Henry -------- Currently building a Murphy Moose - any help would be appreciated. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=336562#336562 ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Wires and Plugs
From: "HBaker" <henry.baker(at)nf.sympatico.ca>
Date: May 15, 2011
I'm almost ready for my final inspection. After I fly off my 25 required hours, I am taking a cross-country trip from Newfoundland to Alberta. My partner thinks that I should change the plugs and wires as a safety issue. He thinks that traveling that far will require going through a lot of moisture. Does anyone else agree with this? Are the new wires and plugs really better - besides the difference in price of replacing the plugs when necessary. What are the best kit for replacing the Russian type? -------- Currently building a Murphy Moose - any help would be appreciated. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=339960#339960 ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "George Coy" <george(at)gesoco.com>
Subject: Wires and Plugs
Date: May 16, 2011
I am not sure about your question. The auto sparkplug conversion seems to work very for people flying Yaks, CJ etc. I am hesitant about putting them in an aircraft that would be used in IFR conditions or heavy rain. That is only based on the fact that the 3/4 in barrel aviation spark plugs verses 5/8 inch barrel (RHM40E vs. the REM40E) were developed for radial engines to fly in bad weather and are still referred to as the "All-Weather Plug" (see the Champion spark plug numbering table) George Coy CAS Ltd. 714 Airport Rd. Swanton VT 05488 802-868-5633 off 802-363-5782 cell 802-868-4465 Fax george.coy(at)gmail.com http://coyafct.com/ SKYPE george.coy -----Original Message----- From: owner-murphymoose-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-murphymoose-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of HBaker Sent: Sunday, May 15, 2011 8:25 PM Subject: MurphyMoose-List: Wires and Plugs I'm almost ready for my final inspection. After I fly off my 25 required hours, I am taking a cross-country trip from Newfoundland to Alberta. My partner thinks that I should change the plugs and wires as a safety issue. He thinks that traveling that far will require going through a lot of moisture. Does anyone else agree with this? Are the new wires and plugs really better - besides the difference in price of replacing the plugs when necessary. What are the best kit for replacing the Russian type? -------- Currently building a Murphy Moose - any help would be appreciated. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=339960#339960 ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: correct cable tension
From: "HBaker" <henry.baker(at)nf.sympatico.ca>
Date: May 29, 2011
Hi Guys Does anyone know what are the correct tensions are on the flight controls, elevator , ailerons, rudder cables on the Moose?? Getting ready to safety the cables and have borrowed a tensionometer , but have no idea of the numbers. Henry -------- Currently building a Murphy Moose - any help would be appreciated. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=341410#341410 ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: seats
From: "HBaker" <henry.baker(at)nf.sympatico.ca>
Date: Jun 01, 2011
Hi Guys Does anyone have a set of sturdy seats for sale to fit a moose? If so maybe a price. Henry -------- Currently building a Murphy Moose - any help would be appreciated. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=341790#341790 ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Jerald Folkerts" <jfolkerts1(at)gmail.com>
Subject: Roll Servo Placement
Date: Jun 13, 2011
I'm planning on a single axis auto-pilot, a Tru-Trak EFIS GP with autopilot, and am interested in where some of you may have placed your roll servos. I'm working on the wings now and it would be convenient to put it in now. Regards, Jerry Folkerts SR 2500 #093 www.mykitlog.com/jfolkerts/ ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: carb blues
From: "HBaker" <henry.baker(at)nf.sympatico.ca>
Date: Jun 18, 2011
Hi George I started the engine today , It started fine, (I took Marks advice on start up). After I got it running I shut off the primer and the boost pump and she ran a little better .But the engine sounds like it has a loud heavy Knock in it. After shut down , gas was pouring out the carb for about 5 minutes, and when I went to leave, I opened the manifold drain cock and about a half liter of gas poured out, The inside of the exhaust and the bottom of the plane is black and wet from being real rich I guess, can adjusting the carb fix this? or is something else I should try??? Henry -------- Currently building a Murphy Moose - any help would be appreciated. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=343402#343402 ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jun 20, 2011
Subject: Re: carb blues
From: Cliff Coy <cliff.coy(at)gmail.com>
*Good morning Henry, By what you're describing, the primer pump was left on continuously during start and the engine may have hydrolocked from too much fuel. If you have the spark plug timing tool you can use it to determine if a hydrolock has occurred. We use about a 10mm spacer threaded onto the tool and bring the #4 cylinder to TDC and make a mark on the scale. Then install the tool into Cyls 5,6, & 7. respectively and measure the scale readings at TDC. Any more than 6 "tic" marks variation from the #4 scale mark is cause for inspection. Cliff * On Sat, Jun 18, 2011 at 18:36, HBaker wrote: > henry.baker(at)nf.sympatico.ca> > > Hi George > > I started the engine today , It started fine, (I took Marks advice on start > up). After I got it running I shut off the primer and the boost pump and > she ran a little better .But the engine sounds like it has a loud heavy > Knock in it. After shut down , gas was pouring out the carb for about 5 > minutes, and when I went to leave, I opened the manifold drain cock and > about a half liter of gas poured out, The inside of the exhaust and the > bottom of the plane is black and wet from being real rich I guess, can > adjusting the carb fix this? or is something else I should try??? > > Henry > > -------- > Currently building a Murphy Moose - any help would be appreciated. > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=343402#343402 > > -- Clifford Coy Border Air Ltd. 629 Airport Rd. Swanton, VT 05488 802-868-2822 TEL 802-868-4465 FAX Skype: Cliff.Coy ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Jerald Folkerts" <jfolkerts1(at)gmail.com>
Subject: Size Question
Date: Jun 29, 2011
I'm beginning to look at available hangar space in the local area. Those of you with a Super Rebel (not Moose), what are your clearance requirements for an aircraft on wheels? i.e. door width/height. It looks to me that the width will be between 38 and 39' with tips. What about height? Regards, Jerry Folkerts SR2500 #093 www.kitlog.com/jfolkerts/ ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Jerald Folkerts" <jfolkerts1(at)gmail.com>
Subject: Minimum Comfortable Take Off Distance
Date: Jul 04, 2011
One of my hangar options is to maintain my own grass strip. Strictly due to parcel size and the economics of the matter, what would you consider the MINIMUM comfortable length to be for a grass strip for an O-540 stock Murphy Super Rebel (SR 2500), assume 20' obstructions at each end (routine fence rows, etc.). Thanks, Jerry Folkerts SR 2500 #093 www.mykitlog.com/jfolkerts/ ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: My Moose is Flying
From: "HBaker" <henry.baker(at)nf.sympatico.ca>
Date: Aug 02, 2011
I would really like to know how to land the moose, as compared to a cessna 172 , especially on landing, did you land with power on, 2 notches of flap, mains first, or three point etc? Thanks Henry -------- Currently building a Murphy Moose - any help would be appreciated. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=348451#348451 ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: My Moose is Flying
From: "n395v" <Bearcat(at)bearcataviation.com>
Date: Aug 03, 2011
Congratulations Jim. Persistence pays off :D -------- Milt Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=348491#348491 ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Verna Simpson" <vbsimpson(at)shaw.ca>
Subject: RE: MurphyMoose-List Digest: 0 Msgs - 09/05/11
Date: Sep 08, 2011
Please 'unsubscribe' vbsimpson(at)shaw.ca Thank you. -----Original Message----- From: owner-murphymoose-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-murphymoose-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of MurphyMoose-List Digest Server Sent: September-05-11 11:57 PM Subject: MurphyMoose-List Digest: 0 Msgs - 09/05/11 * ================================================= Online Versions of Today's List Digest Archive ================================================= Today's complete MurphyMoose-List Digest can also be found in either of the two Web Links listed below. The .html file includes the Digest formatted in HTML for viewing with a web browser and features Hyperlinked Indexes and Message Navigation. The .txt file includes the plain ASCII version of the MurphyMoose-List Digest and can be viewed with a generic text editor such as Notepad or with a web browser. HTML Version: http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=html&Chapter 11-09-05&Archive=MurphyMoose Text Version: http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=txt&Chapter 2011-09-05&Archive=MurphyMoose =============================================== EMail Version of Today's List Digest Archive =============================================== ---------------------------------------------------------- MurphyMoose-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Mon 09/05/11: 0 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 01, 2011
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: PLEASE READ - 2011 List Fund Raiser Kickoff - 21 Years
Strong!! Dear Listers, This year marks 21 years of the Email Lists and Forums at Matronics! I've been running these forums for nearly half my life! I've made some great friends over the years and had countless email and personal conversations with builders about aircraft building and flying. What a great community of people! The advice, support, and friendship has be invaluable over the years. To support the continued operation and upgrade of the List servers, each November I hold a PBS-like fund raiser. It is solely through the Contributions of List members that these Matronics Lists are possible. There is NO advertising to support the Lists. You might have noticed the conspicuous lack of flashing banners and annoying pop-ups on the Matronics Email List email messages and web site pages including: * Matronics List Forums http://forums.matronics.com * Matronics List Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search * Matronics List Browser http://www.matronics.com/listbrowse * Matronics List List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com You don't find advertising on any of these pages because I believe in a List experience that is completely about the sport we all enjoy - airplanes! During the month of November, I will be sending out List messages every couple of days reminding everyone that the Fund Raiser is underway. I ask for your patience and understanding during the Fund Raiser and throughout these regular messages. The Fund Raiser is only financial support mechanism I have to pay all of the bills associated with running these Lists. Your personal Contribution counts! Once again, this year we've got another terrific line up of free gifts to go along with the various Contribution levels. Many of these gifts have been provided by some of the vary members and vendors that you'll find on Matronics Lists and they have been either donated or provided at substantially discounted rates. This year, these generous people include: * Bob Nuckolls of the AeroElectric Connection http://www.aeroelectric.com * Andy Gold of the Builder's Bookstore http://www.buildersbooks.com These are extremely generous guys and I encourage you to visit their respective web sites. Each one offers a unique and very useful aviation-related product line. I would like publicly to thank Bob, and Andy for their generous support of the Lists again this year!! You can make your List Contribution using any one of three secure methods including using a credit card, PayPal, or by personal check. All three methods afford you the opportunity to select one of this year's free gifts with a qualifying Contribution amount!! To make your Contribution, please visit the secure site below: http://www.matronics.com/contribution I would like to thank everyone in advance for their generous financial AND moral support over the years! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator RV-8 Builder (and Rebuilder) and Flyer RV-6 Rebuilder and Flyer RV-4 Builder ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 03, 2011
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Please Support The Lists...
Dear Listers, Just a reminder that November is the Matronics Email List Fund Raiser month. There are some very nice incentive gifts to choose from as well! Please make your Contribution today at: http://www.matronics.com/contribution or by dropping a personal check in the mail to: Matt Dralle / Matronics 581 Jeannie Way Livermore CA 94550 Thank you! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 05, 2011
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Fund Raiser List of Contributors - Please Make A Contribution
Today! Each year at the end of the List Fund Raiser, I post a message acknowledging everyone that so generously made a Contribution to support the Lists. Its sort of my way of publicly thanking everyone that took a minute to show their appreciation for the Lists. Won't you take a moment and assure that your name is on that List of Contributors (LOC)? As a number of members have pointed out over the years, the List seems at least - if not a whole lot more - valuable as a building/flying/recreating/entertainment tool as your typical magazine subscription! Please take minute and assure that your name is on this year's LOC! Show others that you appreciate the Lists. Making a Contribution to support the Lists is fast and easy using your Credit card or Paypal on the Secure Web Site: http://www.matronics.com/contribution or by dropping a personal check in the mail to: Matt Dralle / Matronics 581 Jeannie Way Livermore CA 94550 I would like to thank everyone that has so generously made a Contribution thus far in this year's List Fund Raiser! Remember that its YOUR support that keeps these Lists going and improving! Don't forget to include a little comment about how the Lists have helped you! Best regards, Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 07, 2011
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Make A List Contribution - It's Your Personal Squelch
Button... There is an automatic "squelch button" of sorts for the Fund Raiser messages. Here's how it works... As soon as a List member makes a Contribution through the Matronics Fund Raiser web site, their email address is automatically added to this year's Contributor List and they instantly cease to receive further Fund Raiser messages for the rest of the month! Its just that simple! :-) I really do appreciate each and every one of your individual Contributions to support the Lists. It is your support that enables me to upgrade the hardware and software that are required to run a List Site such as this one. It also goes to pay for the commercial-grade Internet connection and to pay the huge electric bill to keep the computer gear running and the air conditioner powered on. I run all of the Matronics Email List and Forums sites here locally which allows me to control and monitor every aspect of the system for the utmost in reliably and performance. Your personal Contribution matters because, when combined with other Listers such as yourself, it pays the bills to keep this site up and running. I accept exactly ZERO advertising dollars for the Matronics Lists sites. I can't stand the pop-up ads and all other commercials that are so prevalent on the Internet these days and I particularly don't want to have it on my Email List sites. If you appreciate the ad-free, grass-roots, down-home feel of the Matronics Email Lists, please make a Contribution to keep it that way!! http://www.matronics.com/contribution Thank you! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator [Note that there are certain circumstances where you might still see a Contribution related message. For example, if someone replies to one of the messages, when using the List Browse feature, or when accessing List message via the Forum. The system keys on the given email address and since most of these are anonymous public access methods, there is no simple way to filter them.] ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 09, 2011
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Reminder
Dear Listers, Just a quick reminder that November is the annual List Fund Raiser. The Matronics Lists are 100% member supported and all of the operational costs are provided for my your Contributions during this time of the year. Your personal Contribution makes a difference and keeps all of the Matronics Email Lists and Forums completely ad-free. Please make your Contribution today to keep these services up and running! http://www.matronics.com/contribution Thank you in advance! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List and Forum Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 11, 2011
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Please Make A Contribution To Support Your Lists
Dear Listers, There is no advertising income to support the Matronics Email Lists and Forums. The operation is supported 100% by your personal Contributions during the November Fund Raiser. Please make your Contribution today to support the continued operation and upgrade of these services. You can pick up a really nice gift for making your Contribution too! You may use a Credit Card or Paypal at the Matronics Contribution Site here: http://www.matronics.com/contribution or, you can send a personal check to the following address: Matronics / Matt Dralle 581 Jeannie Way Livermore, CA 94550 Thank you in advance for your generous support! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List and Forum Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 13, 2011
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Make Sure You're Listed! List of Contributors Published
in December! Dear Listers, The List of Contributors (LOC) is just around the corner! In December I post a list of everyone that so generously made a Contribution to support the Lists. Its my way of publicly thanking everyone that took a minute to show their appreciation for the Lists. Won't you take minute and assure that your name is on the upcoming LOC? Tell others that you appreciate the Lists. Making a Contribution to support the Lists is fast and easy using your Visa, MasterCard, or Paypal account: http://www.matronics.com/contribution Or, drop a personal check in the mail to: Matt Dralle / Matronics 581 Jeannie Way Livermore CA 94550 USA I would like to thank everyone that has so generously made a Contribution thus far during this year's List Fund Raiser! Remember that its YOUR support that keeps these Lists running and improving! Don't forget to include a little comment about how the Lists have helped you! Thank you! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 15, 2011
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: What's Your Contribution Used For?
Dear Listers, You might have wondered at some pointd, "What's my Contribution used for?" Here are just a few examples of what your direct List support enables... It provides for the expensive, commercial-grade Internet connection used on the List. It pays for the regular system hardware and software upgrades enabling the highest performance possible for List services such as the Archive Search Engine, List Browser, and the Web Forums. It pays for over 21 years (yeah, I really said *21* years) worth of on line archive data available for instant search and access. And, it offsets the many hours spent writing, developing, and maintaining the custom applications that power this List Service such as the List Browse, Search Engine, Forums, and Wiki. But most importantly, your List Contribution enables a forum where you and your peers can communicate freely in an environment that is free from moderation, censorship, advertising, commercialism, SPAM, and computer viruses. It is YOUR CONTRIBUTION that directly enables these aspects of Matronics List services. Please support it today with your List Contribution. Its one of the best investments you can make in your Sport! List Contribution Web Site: http://www.matronics.com/contribution or, you can send a personal check to the following address: Matronics / Matt Dralle 581 Jeannie Way Livermore, CA 94550 Thank you for your support! Matt Dralle Email List Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 17, 2011
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Please Support The Lists...
Dear Listers, Just a reminder that November is the Matronics Email List Fund Raiser month. There are some very nice incentive gifts to choose from as well! Your Contributions alone keep these services up and running. Please make your Contribution today at: http://www.matronics.com/contribution or by dropping a personal check in the mail to: Matt Dralle / Matronics 581 Jeannie Way Livermore CA 94550 Thank you! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 19, 2011
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: The Value of a Forum...
If you look forward to checking your List email everyday (and a lot of you have written to say that you do!), then you're probably getting at least $20 or $30 worth of Entertainment from the Lists each year. You'd pay twice that for a subscription to some magazine or even a dinner out. Arn't the Lists worth at least that much to you? Wouldn't it be great if you could pay that same amount and get a well-managed media source free of advertising, SPAM, and viruses? Come to think of it, you do... Won't you take a minute to make your Contribution today and support YOUR Lists? Please make a Contribution today at: http://www.matronics.com/contribution or by dropping a personal check in the mail to: Matt Dralle / Matronics 581 Jeannie Way Livermore CA 94550 Again, I want to say THANK YOU to everyone that has made a Contribution thus far during this year's List Fund Raiser!! These Lists are made possible exclusively through YOUR generosity!! Thank you for your support! Matt Dralle Email List Admin. ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 21, 2011
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Make Sure You're Listed -- List of Contributors Published
Dec 1! Dear Listers, The List of Contributors (LOC) is just around the corner! On December 1st I post a list of everyone that so generously made a Contribution to support the Lists. Its my way of publicly thanking everyone that took a minute to show their appreciation for the Lists. As a number of people have pointed out in their Contribution comments, the Lists are a whole lot more valuable than your typical magazine subscription! Won't you take minute and assure that your name is on the upcoming LOC? Tell others that you appreciate the Lists. Making a Contribution to support the Lists is fast and easy using your Visa, MasterCard, or Paypal account: http://www.matronics.com/contribution Or, by dropping a personal check in the mail to: Matronics / Matt Dralle 581 Jeannie Way Livermore CA 94550 I would like to thank everyone that has so generously made a Contribution thus far during this year's List Fund Raiser! Remember that its YOUR support that keeps these Lists running and improving! Don't forget to include a little comment about how the Lists have helped you! Thank you! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 23, 2011
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Contributions Down By 20%...
Dear Listers, As of today, Contributions to the Matronics List Fund Raiser are lagging behind last year at this time by roughly 20%. I have a Fund Raiser each year simply to cover my operating costs for the Lists. I *do not* accept any advertising income to support the Lists and rely solely on the Contributions of members to keep the expenses paid. I run all of my own servers and they are housed here locally, and the Internet connection is a commercial-grade, T1 connection with public address space. I also maintain a full backup system that does nightly backups of all List-related data so that in the event of a server crash, all of the Lists and the many years of List archive data could be restored onto a new server in a matter of hours. All of this costs a fair amount of money, not to mention a significant amount of my personal time. I have a Fund Raiser each year to cover these costs and I ask that members that feel they receive a benefit from my investments make a modest Contribution each year to support the continued operation and upgrade of these services. If you enjoy the Lists, please make a Contribution today. I also offer some incentive gifts for larger Contribution levels. At the Contribution Web Site, you can use a credit card, Paypal, or personal check to show your support for the continuation of these services: http://www.matronics.com/contribution Or, drop a personal check in the mail to: Matt Dralle / Matronics 581 Jeannie Way Livermore CA 94550 Thank you for your support! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 25, 2011
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Just A Few More Days To Make Your List Contribution...
There is less than a week left in this year's List Fund Raiser and only a few short days to grab one of the great Contribution Gifts available this year. Support is still significantly lagging behind last year at this point but hopefully it will pick up here towards the end. Please remember that it is solely the Contributions of List members that keeps the Lists up and running as there is no commercialism or advertising on the Matronics Lists and Forums. The List Contribution web site is secure, fast, and easy and you can use a credit card, Paypal: http://www.matronics.com/contribution Or, drop a personal check in the mail to: Matt Dralle / Matronics 581 Jeannie Way Livermore CA 94550 I want to thank everyone that has already made a generous contribution to support the Lists! Thank you! Matt Dralle Matronics EMail List and Forum Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Jerald Folkerts" <jfolkerts1(at)gmail.com>
Subject: SR-2500 Wing Control Tube Question
Date: Nov 25, 2011
Today, I've been fitting the torque tube in my right wing, just in front of the main spar. I built the torque tube bracket per the manual, but in installing the torque tube assembly to the bracket, the manual calls for an AN4-13A bolt, an AN960-418 washer, then an AIL-26 bushing (inner) in the AIL-27 brass bushing that is fitted to the bracket. Then an AN970-4 Penny Washer and another AN960-418 washer between the bushings and the torque tube. OK, the question, the AIL-26 bushing is 5/32" longer than the AIL-27 bushing it fits in. That introduces right to left movement in the torque tube. Should I trim the AIL-26 busing to fit? In addition, prior to final assembly, should I lubricate the bushing with some grease or something? Thanks, Jerry Folkerts SR #093 www.mykitlog.com/jfolkerts/ ________________________________________________________________________________
From: Sylvain April <sapril001(at)hotmail.com>
Subject: Elevator trim.
Date: Nov 26, 2011
I have this question about the elevator trim tab. When taking off with full power with a moose with a M-14P engine=2C the ope rating manual is recomending 2 notches of flaps. I know that with full powe r on my moose ( fine pitch 2950 RPM ) I can not push the nose down=2C the a irplane tend to go nose up even with the stick against the instrument panel . With 2 notches of flaps I can take off with full power and I have some ro om between the instrument panel and the stick=2C still I am trimmed full no se down. I wonder if there are any changes recommended to the elevator seti ng and trim tab settings=2C I am now set as stated in the manual. I am now flying with full fuel an no other load=2C I am affraid that at full gross w eight and aft CG this pitch up problem when taking off could be worst. Any comment would be appreciated. Thanks Sylvain April ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 27, 2011
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Please Make A Contribution Today...
Dear Listers, A quick reminder that November is the annual List Fund Raiser and the List of Contributors is quickly approching. The Matronics Lists are 100% member supported and all of the operational costs are provided for by your Contributions during this time of the year. Your personal Contribution makes a big difference and keeps all of the Matronics Email Lists and Forums completely ad-free. Please make your Contribution today to keep these services up and running! http://www.matronics.com/contribution or by dropping a personal check in the mail to: Matt Dralle / Matronics 581 Jeannie Way Livermore CA 94550 Thank you in advance! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List and Forum Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 29, 2011
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Just Two Days Left - Still Way Behind...
Dear Listers, There are just two more days left in this years List Fund Raiser. Over the last few weeks I have received some really nice comments from members on what the Lists have meant to them. I have included some of them below. Please read over the comments and ponder on your own feelings about the Lists and the support and camaraderie you have found here. We are still way behind last year in terms of the number of contributions. I really want to keep providing these services to the homebuilt community, but it take resources. Since there's no advertising budget or deep pockets to keep the operation a float, its solely your generosity during the Fund Raiser that keeps things going. Please make a Contribution today. If you've been putting off showing your support for the Lists, now is the time to do it! Make a contribution with a Credit Card or though PayPal at that Matronics Contribution web site: http://www.matronics.com/contribution Or, drop a check in the mail: Matronics / Matt Dralle 581 Jeannie Way Livermore, CA 94550 Thank you in advance for your support! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ==================== A Few List Member Comments ===================== I get a lot of useful information and satisfaction from belonging to your groups. Somehow you foster a great sense of community without the baggage that accompanies other lists. Dave S. We do appreciate you running the lists spam and advertising free. Jeff P. I am celebrating my first flight day and you and the lists deserve a thanks since without it my build would have taken twice as long. Chris L. I enjoy the list. Have my morning coffee with it! Buddy M. Your lists are the best investment of my time and money, bar none, when it comes to interfacing with my fellow amateur builders. Owen B. Keep it going!! Thanks for taking over. Wallace J. I enjoy the Pietenpol List a lot. Malcolm Z. Thanks for your great site! As a new CJ-6 owner, your web site is an invaluable resource. Ken B. Great informational source. Fred S. Thanks for doing this! Lance G. Thank you for the service i do enjoy the many hours I use on line with the banter/ serious technical items. Noel G. Thanks for the years of builder support. Roy H. Great forum! Roger C. Thank you VERY MUCH, Matt, for carrying on with this great service. The "Europa" community really appreciates it. All the best, Svein - now celebrating 10 years as a subscriber, I think! Svein J. Matt, I'm building a much nicer and safer airplane because of your efforts. Robert D. 21 years for you 9 years for me on the Zenith lists. Could not imagine building and flying without Matronics. Brian U. Thanks for ALL the hard work and time you put into maintaining these forums. As an EAA Tech counselor I recommend them often. Paul M. This Pietenpol list is a huge part of the motivation that keeps me working on my project. This has been a great place for meeting like minded folks and getting help for the difficult parts. Thomas S. Thanks for the excellent service Matt. Frank S. Matt, I'm a Sonex building, but I have to say that the Piet group is without a doubt the most interesting. Ken M. I can't tell you how much I appreciate the Piet List. This is one of my sanity lifelines! Daniel H. Your site has provided us over the years with excellent connections to others for advice. Good job! Bob M. Kolb List is my #1 source! Henry V. Matt, you do a great job with this site. I've been with it since the beginning! John M. I am very grateful for all of your excellent work on the List. Arthur L. Thank you for the service you provide us all! Nicholas C. ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 30, 2011
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: [Please Read] - Last Official Day of List Fund Raiser!
Dear Listers, Its November 30th and that means a couple of things. Its my birthday again, 48 of them, in fact! But it also means that its that last official day of the Matronics Email List Fund Raiser! If you been jones'n over one of those really nice incentive gifts now is the time to jump on one!! If you've been meaning to make a Contribution this month but have been putting it off for some reason, NOW is the time! I will be posting the List of Contributors in a few days, so you'll probably want to be known as a person that supported the Lists! I want to thank everyone that has so generously made a Contribution this year in support of our Lists. It is your generosity that keeps this operation running and I don't ever forget it. Hopefully everyone feels the same. Below are a few more of the nice comments from Listers I've received this year. Please read them over and see if you don't agree. The List Contribution Web Site is fast and easy. Please support our habit by making your Contribution right now: http://www.matronics.com/contribution Or, by dropping a personal check in the mail to: Matt Dralle / Matronics 581 Jeannie Way Livermore CA 94550 Thank you to all in advance! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ==================== A Few More List Member Comments ===================== I never would have ended up with the great flying airplane I have without the help of people on the Pietenpol list. Thanks for giving us the medium to communicate our questions, tips and suggestions. Matt P. Thanks for the hard work and maintaining the site commercial free. Good luck for the future and this site has been a source of great friendship. Peter B. It is a great resource. Jim G. Thanks so much for your continuing support of the homebuilt community. Gerald A. You are doing an outstanding job running the list's. Keep it going. Bill V. Thanks for keeping this valuable information source going. Best of all the forums. George A. Another Great year on the RV-List! Thomas E. Still the best source of information (& opinion) for builders on a wide range of issues. Martin H. Matt, thanks for hosting and maintaining the lists! Rumen D. It is a great resource. Bryan R. Thanks for your continuing interest in Van's RV8 kitplanes. Peter C. I'm no longer building or flying but like to keep in touch with the current generation of builders. Best wishes to a great list system. Gerry C. A great list that is most useful for builders. Graham H. Thanks for this wonderful tool! Ralph C. Thanks for a great service to the experimental aviation community. Douglas D. Great topics and loads of useful info keep the subject matter relevant. George H. Thanks for keeping this going. Richard R. Great facility and well managed. Victor F. Thanks for a great service. John D. Thank you for you time and efforts they have made Aviation a better place for everyone. Jim W. I still enjoy getting the list in the morning. Don M. You provide a great resource. David M. You have probably saved a few necks over the years. Robert F. Thank you for being there. Benjamin B. You perform a great service. Bruce M. Thank you for providing this invaluable resource. William D. ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Dec 04, 2011
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Hardware Failure - Matronics Web Servers Currently Offline
failure and is currently not available. Replacement hardware has been ordered and should arrive on Tuesday 12/6/2011. All services should be restored shortly there after. During the outage, the Matronics Forums, Wiki, and other web-based List services will NOT be available. However, during the outage, all normal EMAIL based sevices WILL be available so you may continue to post messages to the various lists without an issue. I am so sorry for any inconvenience this web server outage has caused... Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Dec 07, 2011
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Matronics Web Services Restored!
Dear Listers, web services have been fully restored including the Web Forums, List Browse, Archive Search, Wiki, and AeroElectric web sites. It was quite an ordeal getting the replacement boards for the server, but things went back together tonight and are up and running nicely. The first company I ordered the boards from originally called me a day later to say that, whoops, they really didn't have them in stock after all... Fortunately, I was able to locate some through a different source and had then over-nighted and they arrived today. Thank you for your patience and consideration though the whole thing! The List Contribution web site is also back on line for those wishing to make a donation to the effort: http://www.matronics.com/contribution Best regards, Matt Dralle Matronics List Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Dec 19, 2011
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: 2011 List of Contributors
Dear Listers, The 2011 Matronics Email List and Forum Fund Raiser officially ended a couple of weeks ago and its time that I publish this year's List of Contributors. Its the people on this list that directly make the Email Lists and Forums possible. Their generous contributions keep the servers and Internet connection up and running! You can still show your support this year and pick up a great gift at the same time. The Contribution Web Site is fast, easy, and secure: http://www.matronics.com/contribution Or, by dropping a personal check in the mail to: Matt Dralle / Matronics 581 Jeannie Way Livermore CA 94550 I also want to thank Bob, Jon, and Andy for their generous support through the supply of great gifts this year!! These guys have some great products and I encourage you to visit their respective web sites: Bob Nucklolls - AeroElectric - http://www.aeroelectric.com Jon Croke - HomebuiltHELP - http://www.homebuilthelp.com Andy Gold - The Builder's Bookstore - http://www.buildersbooks.com And finally, I'm proud to present The 2011 Fund Raiser List of Contributors: http://www.matronics.com/loc/2011.html Thanks again to everyone that made a Contribution this year!! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List and Forum Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: #244 Moose done and final inspection complete.
From: "waterpro" <h2o.pro(at)hotmail.com>
Date: Aug 04, 2012
Hi All. #244 is all finished and the final inspection went OK. Only one small issue. The original application to transport Canada (MD-RA) was submitted for 3500 pounds gross. Since 244 is on amphib. floats that does not leave a great deal of payload as she is a good 2611 pounds empty. We can apply for an increase to the gross weight after 25 hours of the fly off time but it would be nice to have some weights from the rest of you to give to Transport as proof of the higher gross weight. She has the Murphy extended wingtips which gives her at least a 5% increase according to Murphy. That should be good to 3675 gross. In doing the wing loading calculations we should be able to get up to 3775 and still be under the wing loading for high performance specs. Anybody have a Moose in Canada or Alaska that has been registered with more than 3500 pounds gross? I know the plane can probably fly just fine at 4000 pounds but we need to know from the rest of you what has been done so we can follow the same path. Thanks. Peter Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=380052#380052 ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: #244 Moose done and final inspection complete.
From: "tedwaltman" <tedwaltman(at)gmail.com>
Date: Aug 04, 2012
Hello Peter and a hearty congratulations! Bob Patterson (bobp(at)prosumers.ca I believe) can advise you re gross weight. I do know of at least two folks that have flown at over 4,000 with no problem (albeit at sea level). Contact me of list and I'll give you at least one of their email addresses. Ted Waltman Moose Denver, CO tedwaltman(at)gmail.com Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=380057#380057 ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Aug 04, 2012
From: Sheli Capes <sgcapes(at)yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: #244 Moose done and final inspection complete.
Where are the pictures ?- Greg # 300 =0A=0A=0A=0A________________________ ________=0A From: waterpro <h2o.pro(at)hotmail.com>=0ATo: murphymoose-list@mat ronics.com =0ASent: Saturday, August 4, 2012 2:08 PM=0ASubject: MurphyMoose -List: #244 Moose done and final inspection complete.=0A =0A--> MurphyMoose -List message posted by: "waterpro" =0A=0AHi All. #244 is all finished and the final inspection went OK.=0A=0AOnly one small issu e. The original application to transport Canada (MD-RA) was submitted for 3 500 pounds gross.=0ASince 244 is on amphib. floats that does not leave a gr eat deal of payload as she is a good 2611 pounds empty.=0AWe can apply for an increase to the gross weight after 25 hours of the fly off time but it w ould be nice to have some weights from the rest of you to give to Transport as proof of the higher gross weight.=0AShe has the Murphy extended wingtip s which gives her at least a 5% increase according to Murphy. That should b e good to 3675 gross.=0A=0AIn doing the wing loading calculations we should be able to get up to 3775 and still be under the wing loading for high per formance specs.=0A=0AAnybody have a Moose in Canada or Alaska that has been registered with more than 3500 pounds gross?=0A=0AI know the plane can pro bably fly just fine at 4000 pounds but we need to know from the rest of you what has been done so we can follow the same path.=0A=0AThanks.=0APeter=0A =0A=0A=0A=0ARead this topic online here:=0A=0Ahttp://forums.matronics.com/v =========== ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Aug 06, 2012
From: BOB TRIPP <btripp(at)interisland.net>
Subject: Re: #244 Moose done and final inspection complete.
We have flown our moose at 4000 pounds on Montana 3500 floats at sea level. It takes between 18 and 20 seconds for takeoff. At lighter weights it's 15 seconds. As usual is quite a trade-off between payload and fuel. Our empty weight is 2990, about 200 pounds heavier than I had hoped, but with six seats we have 150 pounds of seats in the airplane, so just by taking out seats we can save weight. Bob Tripp On 8/4/2012 2:08 PM, waterpro wrote: > > Hi All. #244 is all finished and the final inspection went OK. > > Only one small issue. The original application to transport Canada (MD-RA) was submitted for 3500 pounds gross. > Since 244 is on amphib. floats that does not leave a great deal of payload as she is a good 2611 pounds empty. > We can apply for an increase to the gross weight after 25 hours of the fly off time but it would be nice to have some weights from the rest of you to give to Transport as proof of the higher gross weight. > She has the Murphy extended wingtips which gives her at least a 5% increase according to Murphy. That should be good to 3675 gross. > > In doing the wing loading calculations we should be able to get up to 3775 and still be under the wing loading for high performance specs. > > Anybody have a Moose in Canada or Alaska that has been registered with more than 3500 pounds gross? > > I know the plane can probably fly just fine at 4000 pounds but we need to know from the rest of you what has been done so we can follow the same path. > > Thanks. > Peter > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=380052#380052 > > ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: #244 Moose done and final inspection complete.
From: "waterpro" <h2o.pro(at)hotmail.com>
Date: Aug 06, 2012
Picture as requested. http://sdrv.ms/MZs5Ee Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=380235#380235 ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Aug 07, 2012
From: Sheli Capes <sgcapes(at)yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: #244 Moose done and final inspection complete.
Looks great nice paint job, is it the Stewart systems paint ? when are you going to have first flight and will you have a video ?-- Thanks Greg=0A =0A=0A=0A________________________________=0A From: waterpro <h2o.pro@hotmai l.com>=0ATo: murphymoose-list(at)matronics.com =0ASent: Monday, August 6, 2012 5:44 PM=0ASubject: MurphyMoose-List: Re: #244 Moose done and final inspect .pro@hotmail.com>=0A=0APicture as requested.=0A=0Ahttp://sdrv.ms/MZs5Ee=0A =0A=0A=0A=0ARead this topic online here:=0A=0Ahttp://forums.matronics.com/v =========== ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: NOS M-14P SERIES 2 FOR SALE
From: "Dale" <dale(at)frii.com>
Date: Sep 28, 2012
$34K I PAY SHIPPING IN US. YOU PAY SHIPPING I THROW IN A V530 DALE 907-231-2378 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=384130#384130 ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Jill Gernetzke" <jill@m-14p.com>
Subject: Engine, Prop and FWF Combo
Date: Oct 01, 2012
Group, I am brokering a perfect setup for a Moose builder: M-14P engine, MTV-16-1-B-C/CL213-58a prop (4-blade) and Kitbuilder FWF package. $48,000 for all or buy without the prop. Contact me offlist for details: jill@m-14p.com Jill M-14P, Inc. www.m-14p.com ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 01, 2012
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: PLEASE READ - Matronics Email List Fund Raiser During
November! Dear Listers, Each November I hold a PBS-like fund raiser to support the continued operation and upgrade of the Email List and Fourm Services at Matronics. It's through solely through the Contributions of List members that these Matronics Lists are possible. You have probably noticed that there are no banner ads or pop-up windows on any of the Matronics Lists or related web sites such as the Forums site http://forums.matronics.com , Wiki site http://wiki.matronics.com , or other related pages such as the List Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search , List Browse http://www.matronics.com/listbrowse , etc. This is because I believe in a List experience that is completely about the sport we all enjoy - namely Airplanes and not about annoying advertisements. During the month of November I will be sending out List messages every couple of days reminding everyone that the Fund Raiser is underway. I ask for your patience and understanding during the Fund Raiser and throughout these regular messages. The Fund Raiser is only financial support mechanism I have to pay all of the bills associated with running these lists. Your personal Contribution counts! Once again, this year I've got a terrific line up of free gifts to go along with the various Contribution levels. Most all of these gifts have been provided by some of the vary members and vendors that you'll find on Matronics Lists and have been either donated or provided at substantially discounted rates. This year, these generous people include: Bob Nuckolls of the AeroElectric Connection http://www.aeroelectric.com Andy Gold of the Builder's Bookstore http://www.buildersbooks.com Jon Croke of HomebuiltHELP http://www.homebuilthelp.com These are very generous guys and I encourage you to visit their respective web sites. Each one offers a unique and very useful aviation-related product line. I would like publicly to thank Bob, Andy, and Jon for their generous support of the Lists again this year!! Please make your List Contribution using any one of three secure methods including using a credit card, PayPal, or by personal check. All three methods afford you the opportunity to select one of this year's free gifts with a qualifying Contribution amount!! To make your Contribution, please visit the secure site: http://www.matronics.com/contribution I would like to thank everyone in advance for their generous financial AND moral support over the years! Thank you for your support! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator RV-4/RV-6/RV-8 Builder/Rebuilder/Pilot ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 03, 2012
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Please Make A Contribution To Support Your Lists
Dear Listers, There is no advertising income to support the Matronics Email Lists and Forums. The operation is supported 100% by your personal Contributions during the November Fund Raiser. Please make your Contribution today to support the continued operation and upgrade of these services. You can pick up a really nice gift for making your Contribution too! You may use a Credit Card or Paypal at the Matronics Contribution Site here: http://www.matronics.com/contribution or, you can send a personal check to the following address: Matronics / Matt Dralle 581 Jeannie Way Livermore, CA 94550 Thank you in advance for your generous support! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List and Forum Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 05, 2012
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Coming Soon - The List of Contributors - Please Make
A Contribution Today! Each year at the end of the List Fund Raiser, I post a message acknowledging everyone that so generously made a Contribution to support the Lists. Its my way of publicly thanking everyone that took a minute to show their appreciation for the Lists. Please take a moment and assure that your name is on that List of Contributors (LOC)! As a number of members have pointed out over the years, the List seems at least as valuable a building / entertainment tool as your typical magazine subscription! Make sure that your name is on this year's LOC! Show others that you appreciate the Lists. Making a Contribution to support the Lists is fast and easy using your Credit card or Paypal on the Secure Web Site: http://www.matronics.com/contribution or by dropping a personal check in the mail to: Matt Dralle / Matronics 581 Jeannie Way Livermore CA 94550 I would like to thank everyone that has so generously made a Contribution thus far in this year's List Fund Raiser! Remember that its YOUR support that keeps these Lists going and improving! Don't forget to include a little comment about how the Lists have helped you! Best regards, Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 06, 2012
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: A Message From AeroElectric's Bob Nuckolls...
Dear Listers, The well known Bob Nuckolls of the AeroElectric posted a great message Monday on the AeroElectric-List regarding the Matronics Lists and the importance of supporting the operation during the Fund Raiser. Please take a minute to read Bob's commentary below, reposted to the other Matronics Lists with his permission... Date: Mon, 05 Nov 2012 08:58:41 -0600 From: "Robert L. Nuckolls, III" <nuckolls.bob(at)aeroelectric.com> Subject: AeroElectric-List: Re: Please Make A Contribution Today! At 02:14 AM 11/5/2012, Matt Dralle wrote: > > Each year at the end of the List Fund Raiser, I post a message > acknowledging everyone that so generously made a Contribution to > support the Lists. Its my way of publicly thanking everyone that > took a minute to show their appreciation for the Lists. > I will add my voice to this suggestion. It's easy to enjoy the benefits of what's available to us off-the-shelves at the corner mega-marts. It's seldom that we give pause to learn and understand the processes and tools that made it possible to reach out and select from dozens of options. This, and all civil societies, runs on talent, energy and mobility. Mobility exploited by thousands of hands, machines and transportation that figure into the 'infrastructure' that puts the boxes of Wheaties and Pop Tarts on the shelves. See "I pencil" http://tinyurl.com/36xkhq Any break in that chain of time, talent and resources at least interrupts if not totally halts flow of that benefit. Matt's room full of byte-thrashers is like the natural gas pumping station a few miles from my house. If those pumps stop, who ever is expecting the furnace to come on at the other end of the pipe is at risk for reduced service and/or higher costs for that service. Matt's yearly endeavor to keep his pumps running is a trivial burden on the members of the Lists but of incalculable value to those who participate on them. No donation is too small. We go to a fly-in a willingly chuck a few bucks into the coffee can at the drinks and donuts table, let's chuck a few bucks into Matt's coffee can too. 50,000 pounds of value doesn't get to the shelves on time if one 18-wheeler runs out of gas. The T-bytes of data flow we all enjoy don't get from your keyboard to the screens of others unless Matt pays the light bill and strokes the machines to keep them happy. No, $5 won't get you a free copy of the 'Connection or a fuel sampler but it will go toward the assurance that logging onto your favorite List will open doors that you would be sorely missed should you find that hitting the return key doesn't produce the expected response. $5 from every List customer on Matt's system will go a very long way to keeping the byte-pumps running. $More$ will go a long way to upgrading the size and quality of the machines as the old ones get long in the tooth. No matter what size of donation you choose . . . please do it now . . . Bob . . . Please make your Contribution today to support the continued operation and upgrade of these services. You can pick up a really nice gift for making your Contribution too! You may use a Credit Card or Paypal at the Matronics Contribution Site here: http://www.matronics.com/contribution or, you can send a personal check to the following address: Matronics / Matt Dralle 581 Jeannie Way Livermore, CA 94550 Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 08, 2012
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Make A List Contribution - It's Your Personal Squelch
Button... There is an automatic "squelch button" of sorts for the Fund Raiser messages. Here's how it works... As soon as a List member makes a Contribution through the Matronics Fund Raiser web site, their email address is automatically added to this year's Contributor List and they instantly cease to receive further Fund Raiser messages for the rest of the month! Its just that simple! :-) I really do appreciate each and every one of your individual Contributions to support the Lists. It is your support that enables me to upgrade the hardware and software that are required to run a List Site such as this one. It also goes to pay for the commercial-grade Internet connection and to pay the huge electric bill to keep the computer gear running and the air conditioner powered on. I run all of the Matronics Email List and Forums sites here locally which allows me to control and monitor every aspect of the system for the utmost in reliably and performance. Your personal Contribution matters because, when combined with other Listers such as yourself, it pays the bills to keep this site up and running. I accept exactly ZERO advertising dollars for the Matronics Lists sites. I can't stand the pop-up ads and all other commercials that are so prevalent on the Internet these days and I particularly don't want to have it on my Email List sites. If you appreciate the ad-free, grass-roots, down-home feel of the Matronics Email Lists, please make a Contribution to keep it that way!! http://www.matronics.com/contribution or, you can send a personal check to the following address: Matronics / Matt Dralle 581 Jeannie Way Livermore, CA 94550 Thank you! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator [Note that there are certain circumstances where you might still see a Contribution related message. For example, if someone replies to one of the messages, when using the List Browse feature, or when accessing List message via the Forum. The system keys on the given email address and since most of these are anonymous public access methods, there is no simple way to filter them.] ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 10, 2012
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Please Support The Lists...
Dear Listers, Just a reminder that November is the Matronics Email List Fund Raiser month. There are some very nice incentive gifts to choose from as well! Please make your Contribution today at: http://www.matronics.com/contribution or by dropping a personal check in the mail to: Matt Dralle / Matronics 581 Jeannie Way Livermore CA 94550 Thank you! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 12, 2012
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: What's Your Contribution Used For?
Dear Listers, You might have wondered at some pointd, "What's my Contribution used for?" Here are just a few examples of what your direct List support enables... It provides for the expensive, commercial-grade Internet connection used on the List. It pays for the regular system hardware and software upgrades enabling the highest performance possible for List services such as the Archive Search Engine, List Browser, and the Web Forums. It pays for the over 22 years of on-line archive data always available for instant search and access. And, it offsets the many hours spent writing, developing, and maintaining the custom applications that power these List Service such as the List Browse, Search Engine, Forums, and Wiki. But most importantly, your List Contribution enables a forum where you and your peers can communicate freely in an environment that is free from moderation, censorship, advertising, commercialism, SPAM, and computer viruses. It is YOUR CONTRIBUTION that directly enables all these aspects of Matronics List services. Please support it today with your List Contribution. Its one of the best investments you can make in your Sport! List Contribution Web Site: http://www.matronics.com/contribution or, you can send a personal check to the following address: Matronics / Matt Dralle 581 Jeannie Way Livermore, CA 94550 Thank you for your support! Matt Dralle Email List Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 14, 2012
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Make Sure You're Listed! List of Contributors Published
in December! Dear Listers, The List of Contributors (LOC) is just around the corner! In December I post a list of everyone that so generously made a Contribution to support the Lists. Its my way of publicly thanking everyone that took a minute to show their appreciation for the Lists. Won't you take minute and assure that your name is on the upcoming LOC? Tell others that you appreciate the Lists. Making a Contribution to support the Lists is fast and easy using your Visa, MasterCard, or Paypal account: http://www.matronics.com/contribution Or, by dropping a personal check in the mail to: Matronics / Matt Dralle 581 Jeannie Way Livermore CA 94550 I would like to thank everyone that has so generously made a Contribution thus far during this year's List Fund Raiser! Remember that its YOUR support that keeps these Lists running and improving! Don't forget to include a little comment about how the Lists have helped you! Thank you! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 16, 2012
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Who is Matt Dralle & What Are The Lists?
Dear Listers, Who is Matt Dralle and what exactly are these Lists anyway? I've been working in the Information Technology industry for over 28 years, primarily in computer networking design and implementation and more recently as an embedded software engineer. I have also done a fair amount of work in web design and development. I started the Matronics Email Lists way back in 1990 shortly after I started building my RV-4 with about 30 fellow RV builders from around the world. Since that time, I have added many other types of aircraft related Lists to the line up and numerous other List related services such as the Forums, Wiki, Archives and Search Engine just to name a few. For flexibility and reliability, I have chosen to run all of my own servers locally. Other List-related systems include a 1 Gigabit, fully switched network infrastructure, a commercial-grade Netscreen firewall, a Barracuda spam filter, a local T1 Internet router, and a bonded dual T1 commercial-grade business Internet connection with full static addressing. The computer servers include a dual quad-core Linux server for List web services with 24GB of memory, a quad -core Linux system dedicated to the email processing List functions, and another standalone Linux system serving as a remote storage disk farm for the archives, databases, and for an on-line hard drive-based backup system with multi-terra byts of online storage. This entire system is protected by three large, commercial-grade uninterrupted power supply systems (UPS) that assure the Lists are available even during a local power outage! Speaking of power, imagine how much electricity it takes to run all of these systems. On the average, the elctric bill is in the neighborhood of $7000-$8000/yr and the newly upgraded dual-T1 Internet connection runs roughly $6000/yr. A while back, I upgraded all of the computer racking infrastructure including new power feeds and dedicated air conditioning for the room that serves as the Computer Center for the Matronics Email Lists and followed that upgrade up with a second rack upgrade to house the MONSTER web system that didn't quite fit into the first rack! Here's a composite photo of the List Computer Center prior to the addition of the second rack: http://www.matronics.com/MattDralle-ListComputerCenter.jpg As you can see, I take running these Lists very seriously and I am dedicated to providing an always-on, 24x7x365 experience for each and every Lister. But building and running this system isn't cheap. As I've mentioned many times before, I don't use commercial advertisments to support any of these systems. It is supported 100% through List member Contributions! That means you... and you... and YOU! To that end, I hold a List Fund Raiser each November and ask that members make a Contribution to support the continued operation and upgrade of this ever-expanding system. Its solely YOUR Contributions that keeps it running! Please make a Contribution today to support these Lists! http://www.matronics.com/contribution Or, by dropping a personal check in the mail to: Matronics / Matt Dralle 581 Jeannie Way Livermore CA 94550 Thank you! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 19, 2012
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Reminder
Dear Listers, A quick reminder that November is the annual Matronics List Fund Raiser. The Lists are 100% member supported and all of the operational costs are covered solely through your Contributions during this time of the year. *Your* personal Contribution makes a difference and keeps all of the Matronics Email Lists and Forums completely ad-free. Please make your Contribution today to keep these services up and running for another great year! Use a credit card or your PayPal account here: http://www.matronics.com/contribution Or, by sending a personal check to: Matronics / Matt Dralle 581 Jeannie Way Livermore CA 94550 Thank you in advance! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List and Forum Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 21, 2012
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Some Nice Comments...
Dear Listers, I've been getting some very nice comments from Listers along with their List Support Contributions. I've shared a number of them below. Please read them over and see what your fellow Listers think of the Lists and Forums. Please make a Contribution today to support the continued upgrade and operation of these services. There are lots of sweet gifts available this year, so please browse the nice selection and pickup something fun with your qualifying Contribution! You may use a credit card or your PayPal account here: http://www.matronics.com/contribution Or feel free to send a personal check to: Matronics / Matt Dralle 581 Jeannie Way Livermore CA 94550 Thank you in advance for your generous support! It is very much appreciated! Best regards, Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator -------------------- What Listers Are Saying About The Lists -------------------- I have been flying my Pietenpol for a month now and am enjoying the fruits of ten hard years of work. I seriously doubt it would ever have been finished but for the help, encouragement and friendships I've received and made through the Pietenpol list. Douwe B Outstanding service to the flying community. George A Matt, I look forward to support each others projects, Glenn B Great list!!! Thanks for all your efforts! Roger C Thank you for keeping up the lists. Without it i would never have completed my aircraft. Stan S Keep up the good work my friend. I don't think I could ever finish my Pietenpol Air Camper without the help I get from this List. Tom S Thank you for keeping these list alive. Lee V The List is invaluable!! Svein J Thanks for continuing to provide the list service! Earl S You have a really GREAT service. Thankyou so much I've been on for nearly 30 years and I still check-in every morning. John B I rely fully on the lists which govern my every decision. The flexibility provides the security I seek. Fergus K My RV 7 Finally flies... 7 years of Matronics.com certainly helped. Martin H Great service here, thanks! I am just getting back to a project I dropped for a few years, great to see your site and all the folks again! James C Thanks for the great site. Robert U The Rotax list is good and the AeroElectric list outstanding! Jay H Thank you for a great resource! Jack T Thanks for your great record of outstanding service to the homebuilding community! Larry W This service is invaluable. Michael W You're doing a great job Matt. Robert D Thanks for all your work, its a great asset to all. John F Thank you for your time & effort Matt! Ted W Matt, been a follower since 2005 on the -10 list, now starting an -8. Keep up the great work! John M Still my favorite place to hang out. William W I'm not a Piet builder, but this is the most informative and congenial list I've ever run across. Please forgive my lurking-I learn a LOT here! Ken M Many thanks for keeping this alive, keep pushing! Adrian C Thanks! Please keep r going! Rich Z Many thanks for your hard work. Robert C Thanks for the Lists! I probably need to subscribe to a few more... John M Been a quick 14 years. Think I subscribed to the Kolb List in 1998, when I got my first computer. Thanks for keeping everything running smoothly for all these years. John H Great resource - thank you. David M I don't post very much, but get the postings, a lot of really practical info. John N Great job Matt, thanks for all you do. Roger M Thanks for ANOTHER great year, Matt! True grassroots experimental aviation has been pushed aside in many ways. But the List represents the evolution of this great tradition of home-building. One man, the plans, the tools, and the List - that's all you need to build the dream! Robert B This message board is a real help to my project and creating friendships. John S Many thanks for your continuing excellent work. Mike G Thank you for your work Matt. Your lists have helped me a great deal during the construction of my plane. Hal B Nice List Van E These lists are priceless for builders. Ronald C Thanks for keeping me in touch with the Pulsar community. Otto S Thanks for keeping up this great warbird sight!! Yak Ron Thanks for providing all the lists for so many years. H H Thanks for all that you do. Your dedication is much appreciated! Warren H Best service on the internet! Owen B I have learned so much from the "list". Nick C Great Service You Are Providing! Giffen M Thanks so much for maintaining these great resources. Dave S I no longer fly due to age and health problems, but I still enjoy the reading from other pilots. Dallas S This is a wonderful site. Robert B Useful service over the last year - thanks. Om T -------------------- What Listers Are Saying About The Lists -------------------- ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 23, 2012
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: "Black Friday" For List Fund Raiser...?
Dear Listers, The number of List subscriptions are up by a fair amount this year, but support during this year's Fund Raiser is substantially behind last year, and there's only about a week left until the end of the Fund Raiser. I have always preferred a non-commercial List experience as many, many members have also expressed that they do as well. However, if the yearly fund raiser cannot generate sufficient funds to keep the bills paid, other sources of income might be required including some sort of advertising. Please don't let that happen! Your personal Contribution of $20 or $30 goes a long ways to keeping this operation a float. Please make sure your name is on this year's List of Contributors! The List Contribution site is secure, quick, and easy: http://www.matronics.com/contribution Or, drop a personal check in the mail to: Matt Dralle / Matronics 581 Jeannie Way Livermore CA 94550 Thank you in advance for your support! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List and Forum Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 25, 2012
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Just A Few More Days To Make Your List Contribution...
There is less than a week left in this year's List Fund Raiser and only a few short days to grab one of the great Contribution Gifts available this year. Support is still significantly lagging behind last year at this point but hopefully it will pick up here towards the end. Please remember that it is solely the Contributions of List members that keeps the Lists up and running as there is no commercialism or advertising on the Matronics Lists and Forums. The List Contribution web site is secure, fast, and easy and you can use a credit card, Paypal, or a personal check: http://www.matronics.com/contribution Or, drop a personal check in the mail to: Matt Dralle / Matronics 581 Jeannie Way Livermore CA 94550 I want to thank everyone that has already made a generous contribution to support the Lists! Thank you! Matt Dralle Matronics EMail List and Forum Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 26, 2012
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Contributions Down By 23%...
Dear Listers, As of today, Contributions to the Matronics List Fund Raiser are lagging behind last year at this time by roughly 23%. I have a Fund Raiser each year simply to cover my operating costs for the Lists. I *do not* accept any advertising income to support the Lists and rely solely on the Contributions of members to keep the expenses paid. I run all of my own servers and they are housed here locally, and the Internet connection is a commercial-grade, dual T1 connection with public address space. I also maintain a full backup system that does nightly backups of all List-related data so that in the event of a server crash, all of the Lists and the many years of List archive data could be restored onto a new server in a matter of hours. All of this costs a fair amount of money, not to mention a significant amount of my personal time. I have a Fund Raiser each year to cover these costs and I ask that members that feel they receive a benefit from my investments make a modest Contribution each year to support the continued operation and upgrade of these services. If you enjoy the Lists, please make a Contribution today. I also offer some incentive gifts for larger Contribution levels. At the Contribution Web Site, you can use a credit card, Paypal, or personal check to show your support for the continuation of these services: http://www.matronics.com/contribution Or, drop a personal check in the mail to: Matt Dralle / Matronics 581 Jeannie Way Livermore CA 94550 Thank you for your support! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 27, 2012
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Make Sure You're Listed! List of Contributors Coming
in December! Dear Listers, There's just a couple more days left in this year's List Fund Raiser and that means the List of Contributors (LOC) is just around the corner! In December I post a list of everyone that so generously made a Contribution to support the Lists. Its my way of publicly thanking everyone that took a minute to show their appreciation for the Lists. Won't you take minute and assure that your name is on the upcoming LOC? Tell others that you appreciate the Lists. Making a Contribution to support the Lists is fast and easy using your Visa, MasterCard, or Paypal account: http://www.matronics.com/contribution Or, drop a personal check in the mail to: Matt Dralle / Matronics 581 Jeannie Way Livermore CA 94550 I would like to thank everyone that has so generously made a Contribution thus far during this year's List Fund Raiser! Remember that its YOUR support that keeps these Lists running and improving! Don't forget to include a little comment about how the Lists have helped you! Thank you! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 28, 2012
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Just 3 Days Left - Please Make Your List Contribution
Today! There are only three days left until the end of this year's List Fund Raiser. Please take a minute to show your support as so many others have this year and make sure YOUR name is on the forthcoming List of Contributors! Its quick and easy using the secure web site with a credit card or PayPal: http://www.matronics.com/contribution or by sending your personal check to: Matronics Lists c/o Matt Dralle 581 Jeannie Way Livermore, CA 94550 Thank you in advance for your support of these List services! Matt Dralle Matronics Email and Forum Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 29, 2012
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Just Two Days Left! - Still Behind...
Dear Listers, There are just two more days left in this years List Fund Raiser. Over the last couple of weeks I have received some more really nice comments from members on what the Lists have meant to them. I have included a few more of them below. Please read over the comments and ponder on your own feelings about the Lists and the support and camaraderie you have found here. We are still behind last year in terms of the number of contributions. I really want to keep providing these services to the homebuilt community, but it take resources. Since there's no advertising budget or deep pockets to keep the operation a float, its solely your generosity during the Fund Raiser that keeps things going. Please make a Contribution today. If you've been putting off showing your support for the Lists, now is the time to do it! Make a contribution with a Credit Card or though PayPal at that Matronics Contribution web site: http://www.matronics.com/contribution Or, drop a check in the mail: Matronics / Matt Dralle 581 Jeannie Way Livermore, CA 94550 Thank you in advance for your support! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ==================== A Few List Member Comments ===================== I have been flying my Pietenpol for a month now and am enjoying the fruits of ten hard years of work. I seriously doubt it would ever have been finished but for the help, encouragement and friendships I've received and made through the Pietenpol list. Douwe B Hey-Long time subscriber, zero-time contributor. Just a note of thanks. This is first time I have the resources to contribute. Thanks for carrying a lightweight for years and a special thanks for your time and effort. Billy R My 601 hd is flying with the help with the listers. Noel G A very useful facility. Graeme B ..great site! Robert C Great Pietenpol site! Don Y Not active but always interested in keeping up. Enjoy when I can. Richard R Dave and Tim from Aircrafters just want to reiterate our thanks for hosting the lists. Tim F. I don't have a lot to give at this time of year, but I hope my contribution helps none the less. I really enjoy the message board. Mark C Thanks to your continued work on maintaining these lists. Ralph C The lists and the various contributors have been a great help while I was building and also now that I'm flying. Albert G Very helpful tools for the homebuilder. Vaughn T We appreciate your great help! Richard H Many of our customers have expressed to us that you provide them with an invaluable service - and we agree! Bill B I Fly a Quicksilver GT400 but love to read what the Kolb boys have to say and it was on your list that I found out about the Yamaha product Ring Free,, now called engine med, that shit works.. no carbon in my rings or any to speak of with the use of the Yamaha product with a premix 503 with over 300 hrs of use.. thanks to your Kolb bulletin board. Robert B You are providing a valuable service that helps a lot of people through information sharing. When I built my Pietenpol over 40 years ago we were largely on our own, working without a resource like this list. Graham H Thanks for the opportunity to link us all, keep the good work! Peter B ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 30, 2012
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: [Please Read] - Last Official Day of List Fund Raiser!
Dear Listers, Its November 30th and that always means a couple of things. Its my birthday again; number 49 actually! But it also means that its that last official day of the Matronics Email List Fund Raiser! If you been thinking about picking up one of those really nice incentive gifts now is the time to jump on it!! If you've been meaning to make a Contribution this month but have been putting it off for some reason, NOW is the time! I will be posting the List of Contributors in a few days, so you'll probably want to be known as a person that supported the Lists! I want to thank everyone that has so generously made a Contribution this year in support of our Lists. It is your generosity that keeps this operation running and I don't ever forget it. The List Contribution Web Site is fast and easy. Please support our habit by making your Contribution right now: http://www.matronics.com/contribution Or, by dropping a personal check in the mail to: Matt Dralle / Matronics 581 Jeannie Way Livermore CA 94550 Thank you to all in advance! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Dec 10, 2012
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: 2012 List of Contributors
Dear Listers, The 2012 Matronics Email List and Forum Fund Raiser officially ended about a week ago and its time that I publish this year's List of Contributors. It is the people on this list that directly make the Email Lists and Forums possible! Their generous Contributions keep the servers and Internet connection up and running! You can still show your support this year and pick up a great gift at the same time. The Contribution Web Site is fast, easy, and secure: http://www.matronics.com/contribution Or, by dropping a personal check in the mail to: Matt Dralle / Matronics 581 Jeannie Way Livermore CA 94550 I also want to thank Bob, Jon, and Andy for their generous support through the supply of great gifts this year!! These guys have some excellent products and I encourage you to visit their respective web sites: Bob Nucklolls - AeroElectric - http://www.aeroelectric.com Jon Croke - HomebuiltHELP - http://www.homebuilthelp.com Andy Gold - The Builder's Bookstore - http://www.buildersbooks.com And finally, I'm proud to present The 2012 Fund Raiser List of Contributors: http://www.matronics.com/loc/2012.html Thanks again to everyone that made a Contribution this year!! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List and Forum Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jan 01, 2013
From: Viorel Nichols <viorel.nichols(at)yahoo.com>
Subject: Auto-response
Away on holiday from the 22 December 2012 till 29 January 2013 Wishing you a happy festive season . Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year from Viorel ... ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Alternate Air
From: "HBaker" <henry.baker(at)nf.sympatico.ca>
Date: Jan 20, 2013
Can anyone tell me what Alternate Air is? In the pilot operating manual in the run up section in line L it says "Alternate Air... open... max. drop 75 rpm... set closed." I'm not sure what that refers to. Thanks for any help. -------- Currently building a Murphy Moose - any help would be appreciated. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=392783#392783 ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "George Coy" <george.coy(at)gmail.com>
Subject: Alternate Air
Date: Jan 21, 2013
It is another name for Carburetor Heat for injected engines. Injected engines have an alternate air source in case the air filter or the intake is blocked. They do not need additional heat as they do not evaporate fuel in a venturi and thus no icing in the intake path. I assume that you are reading a Moose manual for an aircraft with an IO540 engine, not the M114P engine. The M14P should have Carburetor Heat as under certain circumstances icing can form in the AK14 carburetor. George Coy -----Original Message----- From: owner-murphymoose-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-murphymoose-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of HBaker Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2013 9:23 PM Subject: MurphyMoose-List: Alternate Air --> Can anyone tell me what Alternate Air is? In the pilot operating manual in the run up section in line L it says "Alternate Air... open... max. drop 75 rpm... set closed." I'm not sure what that refers to. Thanks for any help. -------- Currently building a Murphy Moose - any help would be appreciated. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=392783#392783 ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jan 21, 2013
From: e fisk <evanfisk(at)shaw.ca>
Subject: Re: Alternate Air
It's carb heat. cheers. Evan Fisk winnipeg. SR3500 C- FOBK ----- Original Message ----- From: "HBaker" <henry.baker(at)nf.sympatico.ca> Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2013 8:23:29 PM Subject: MurphyMoose-List: Alternate Air Can anyone tell me what Alternate Air is? In the pilot operating manual in the run up section in line L it says "Alternate Air... open... max. drop 75 rpm... set closed." I'm not sure what that refers to. Thanks for any help. -------- Currently building a Murphy Moose - any help would be appreciated. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=392783#392783 ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Bolts
From: "HBaker" <henry.baker(at)nf.sympatico.ca>
Date: Jan 28, 2013
I am having great difficulty finding two AN10-34A Bolts. They were used on the front leading edge wing root. If anyone has one of these, please let me know or where I can get one. ASAP Thanks! Henry -------- Currently building a Murphy Moose - any help would be appreciated. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=393171#393171 ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "bigdog(at)bentwing.com" <bigdog(at)bentwing.com>
Subject: Bolts
Date: Jan 28, 2013
The obvious is to go to Murphy. Alternately, just Google it. I found http://www.gen-aircraft-hardware.com/store.asp?alternate=AN10%2D34A in about 15 seconds. $42 each. -----Original Message----- From: owner-murphymoose-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-murphymoose-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of HBaker Sent: Monday, January 28, 2013 9:53 AM Subject: MurphyMoose-List: Bolts --> I am having great difficulty finding two AN10-34A Bolts. They were used on the front leading edge wing root. If anyone has one of these, please let me know or where I can get one. ASAP Thanks! Henry -------- Currently building a Murphy Moose - any help would be appreciated. ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: M-14P, Series II Engine and Installation Parts for Sale
From: "Jeffd" <jdair(at)sbcglobal.net>
Date: Feb 11, 2013
M-14P, Series II Engine and Parts for Sale: M-14P Engine, Series II, 300 hours since overhaul, original logbook, includes Western Fittings Kit and Skytronics alternator/regulator. $13,750. M-14 Exhaust System, stainless steel, made in USA, includes gaskets. $1375. MT Prop Adapter. Adapts Western style flat flange prop to the standard serrated M-14 propshaft. $275. Petersen 5 Gallon Oil Tank modified for use with the M-14 engine. Includes mounting brackets, Kimball on/off oil valve, silicone pad heater, oil temp probe fitting, scavenge oil return fitting, custom vent fittings, calibrated dipstick/cap assembly. $500. Kimball Air Start Components: Compressed air storage bottle with aux fill fitting, pressure guage, valve manifold with start valve, dump valve and safety valve. $350. Kimball Prop Governor Cable Bracket. $45 Kimball Intake Manifold Drain Kit. $80 Kimball Prop Governor Wheel. $30 Start Coil. $100 M-14 Engine Guages, made by UMA, specifically color marked for the M-14: 2.25 tach and tach generator, $120. 1.25 oil pressure, oil temp, volts and CHT, $60 each. Engine and parts were recently removed in good working order from a flying aircraft For info or photos mail / call me at jdair(at)sbcglobal.net / 913 634 8531 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=394066#394066 ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: M-14PF Carb and Mags for Sale
From: "Jeffd" <jdair(at)sbcglobal.net>
Date: Mar 08, 2013
I have one M-14PF carb and two M9F mags for sale. Taken off of a new engine after ground run time only - engine was upgraded with electronic ignition and fuel injection. Mags have the Savarese 8mm silicone ignition harness installed (original factory harness was removed in good condition). $4500 for all three items, or $1650 individually. Contact Jeff at 913 634 8531 or jdair(at)sbcglobal.net. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=395891#395891 ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "George Coy" <george.coy(at)gmail.com>
Subject: M-14PF exhaust
Date: Mar 08, 2013
I have a new M14P exhaust system for a Moose available. Conctact me off list. George Coy ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: PK 3500A Floats
From: "HBaker" <henry.baker(at)nf.sympatico.ca>
Date: Apr 14, 2013
Hello Guys Just purchased a set of PK3500A floats and I was wondering about the installation. If anyone has the drawings, or some info on them, what are the width of the floats, the angle of the floats and how do they perform? Cheers, Henry -------- Currently building a Murphy Moose - any help would be appreciated. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=398581#398581 ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: #244 Moose done and final inspection complete.
From: "HBaker" <henry.baker(at)nf.sympatico.ca>
Date: Apr 14, 2013
Congratulations! I was wondering if they were PK floats and if they are, do you have any information on the installation which I could use? Thanks, Henry SN.: SR 294 -------- Currently building a Murphy Moose - any help would be appreciated. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=398582#398582 ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: PK 3500A Floats
From: George Coy <george.coy(at)gmail.com>
Date: Apr 14, 2013
We installed a set of the Amphisbaenia. Contact off list George.coy(at)gmail.com Sent from my iPad On Apr 14, 2013, at 12:26 PM, "HBaker" wrote: > > Hello Guys > Just purchased a set of PK3500A floats and I was wondering about the installation. If anyone has the drawings, or some info on them, what are the width of the floats, the angle of the floats and how do they perform? > Cheers, > Henry > > -------- > Currently building a Murphy Moose - any help would be appreciated. > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=398581#398581 > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: pork chops
From: "HBaker" <henry.baker(at)nf.sympatico.ca>
Date: Apr 16, 2013
any one know if 185 pork chops fit the moose, and what distance they recommend ?? Henry SR 294 -------- Currently building a Murphy Moose - any help would be appreciated. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=398764#398764 ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Fuel flow
From: "HBaker" <henry.baker(at)nf.sympatico.ca>
Date: May 16, 2013
I was doing some taxi and runup tests today , both tanks on ,boost pump on, prop full fine and can only get 2000 rpm , fuel flow is around 15 GPH am I supposed to get 2900 . And also my tires are going around on my rims ? and spoiled my tubes ever hear of that before? Running 50 psi in the tires . -------- Currently building a Murphy Moose - any help would be appreciated. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=400815#400815 ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Fuel flow
From: "tedwaltman" <tedwaltman(at)gmail.com>
Date: May 16, 2013
Hello Henry, I've tried to email you at henry.baker(at)nf.sympatico.ca but emails continue to be rejected. Assuming you're measuring prop rpm, you need to make a radical adjustment to your governor mount if you're that short of max rpm. I've always only run 20 to 25 max rpm. I've never had my tires rotate on the rim. Feel feel to email me anytime ted(at)vafm.org Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=400824#400824 ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Fuel flow
From: "HBaker" <henry.baker(at)nf.sympatico.ca>
Date: May 17, 2013
That was my tack reading, first thing I will check is my throttle to see if I have full deflection, then maybe prop, I do I know if I have full fine? What should static run up be ?after that I will check for restrictions. Any other Ideas? -------- Currently building a Murphy Moose - any help would be appreciated. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=400873#400873 ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Fuel flow
From: "tedwaltman" <tedwaltman(at)gmail.com>
Date: May 17, 2013
Max rpm is 2,950 (engine) or 1941 (Prop). Idle should be about 800 engine or 530 prop. email me off line if you need copy of document on how to check/set prop angle (tedwaltman(at)gmail.com). I do static at 1950 engine or 1300 prop. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=400879#400879 ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Tire pressure
From: "HBaker" <henry.baker(at)hotmail.com>
Date: May 20, 2013
Can anyone tell me what tire pressure you are using on the 8.50x6 tires ? mine are going around on the rims? Lost my tubes $215 dollars each . as if this plane hasn't cost enough Already . Go figure, never saw that one coming? -------- Currently building a Murphy Moose - any help would be appreciated. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=401030#401030 ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Jill Gernetzke" <jill@m-14p.com>
Subject: Need help
Date: Jul 15, 2013
Group, I am looking for someone in the Tacoma, WA area with Moose or radial engine experience that can troubleshoot electrical issues with the "slickstart" system on an electric start M-14P on a Moose. (Outside of Tacoma is also okay, too.) Please contact me offlist. Thank you. Jill Gernetzke M-14P, Inc. ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: #244 Moose done and final inspection complete.
From: "waterpro" <h2o.pro(at)hotmail.com>
Date: Sep 08, 2013
The floats are Montana's. What do you want to know about mounting floats on the Moose? Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=408252#408252 ________________________________________________________________________________
From: Sylvain April <sapril001(at)hotmail.com>
Subject: Vortex Generators
Date: Sep 24, 2013
Hello =2C I plan to install some vortex generators on my Moose.I want to install the m on the wings and on the stabiliser=2C I would like to know if anyone have some experience with those on a Moose with the M14P radial engine. Thanks Sylvain AprilMurphy Moose C-GFFO ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 01, 2013
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: PLEASE READ - Matronics Email List Fund Raiser During
November! Dear Listers, Each November I hold a PBS-like fund raiser to support the continued operation and upgrade of the Email List and Fourm Services at Matronics. It's solely through the Contributions of List members (you) that these Matronics Lists are possible. You have probably noticed that there are no banner ads or pop-up windows on any of the Matronics Lists or related web sites such as the Forums site http://forums.matronics.com , Wiki site http://wiki.matronics.com , or other related pages such as the List Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search , List Browse http://www.matronics.com/listbrowse , etc. This is because I believe in a List experience that is completely about the sport we all enjoy - namely Airplanes and not about annoying advertisements. During the month of November I will be sending out List messages every couple of days reminding everyone that the Fund Raiser is underway. I ask for your patience and understanding during the Fund Raiser and throughout these regular messages. The Fund Raiser is only financial support mechanism I have to pay all of the bills associated with running these lists. YOUR personal Contribution counts! This year we have a really HUGE and TERRIFIC line up of free gifts to go along with the various Contribution levels. In fact, there are over 30 different gifts to choose from - more than we've ever had before! There's something for everyone, to be sure. Most all of these gifts have been provided by some of the vary members and vendors that you'll find on the Matronics Lists and they have been either donated or provided at substantially discounted rates. This year, these generous members include: Andy Gold of the Builder's Bookstore http://www.buildersbooks.com Bob Nuckolls of the AeroElectric Connection http://www.aeroelectric.com Corbin Glowacki of My Pilot Store http://www.mypilotstore.com George Race of Race Consulting http://www.mrrace.com/ Jon Croke of HomebuiltHELP http://www.homebuilthelp.com These are very generous guys and I encourage you to visit their respective web sites. Each one offers a unique and excellent aviation-related product line. I would like publicly to thank Andy, Bob, Corbin, George, and Jon their generous support of the Lists again this year!! Please make your List Contribution using any one of three secure methods including using a credit card, PayPal, or by personal check. All three methods afford you the opportunity to select one of this year's free gifts with a qualifying Contribution amount!! To make your Contribution, please visit the secure web site: http://www.matronics.com/contribution I would like to thank everyone in advance for their generous financial AND moral support over the years! Thank you! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator RV-4/RV-6/RV-8 Builder/Rebuilder/Pilot ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 04, 2013
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Please Make A Contribution To Support Your Lists
Dear Listers, There is no advertising income to support the Matronics Email Lists and Forums. The operation is supported 100% by your personal Contributions during the November Fund Raiser. Please make your Contribution today to support the continued operation and upgrade of these services. You can pick up a really nice gift for making your Contribution too! You may use a Credit Card or Paypal at the Matronics Contribution Site here: http://www.matronics.com/contribution or, you can send a personal check to the following address: Matronics / Matt Dralle 581 Jeannie Way Livermore, CA 94550 Thank you in advance for your generous support! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List and Forum Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 06, 2013
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Network Issues At Matronics Last Few Days...
Dear Listers, Starting sometime on Friday November 1st, my Internet Service Provider (ISP) began "upgrading" their Domain Name Servers (DNS). DNS servers allow the resolution of computer names such as "www.matronics.com" to real addresses such as 64.81.74.3. This also impacts email delivery as well, since there is another layer of resolution that applies to email names. Because of this upgrade on the part of my ISP, DNS service started getting unreliable around Friday sometime, but I didn't notice it until sometime on Saturday. When I used a tool called "nslookup" to test the resolution of name-to-address, about 50-75% of the time my ISP's servers would response with an "SERVFAIL" indicating that they didn't know the answer. I opened a ticket with the ISP on Saturday, and by Sunday afternoon I had no feedback on the ticket so I called in to support. "We upgrading the DNS servers, and it should back by Sunday at 5pm." 5pm came and went with no resolution. Well, long story short by Tuesday morning things were still not fixed and in fact much worse. So, I opted to move all my DNS service to a different service provider. I have a lot of DNS entries, so it took a while to get everything moved over. It generally takes about 24 hours for a change like that to fully propagate across the Internet which would be Wednesday morning sometime. I've noticed that the Matronics web server traffic is picking up again, so many sites have already propagated the new information. I really should have just moved the DNS on Saturday when I first noticed the troubles, but with stuff like this, you just keep believing that it gonna be fixed any minute now.... And, in fact, that's what my ISP kept telling me... Its always a giant bummer when stuff like this happens and particularly during the Fund Raiser. I apologize to anyone that has tried to make a Contribution in the last few days and had issues or was simply unable to connect. By the time you read this email, the DNS should be fully propagated, and I ask that you please try again. The Contribution web site URL is: http://www.matronics.com/contribution or, you can send a personal check to the following address: Matronics / Matt Dralle 581 Jeannie Way Livermore, CA 94550 Thank you for your kind consideration and patience, Matt Dralle Matronics Email List and Forum Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 07, 2013
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Coming Soon - The List of Contributors - Please Make
A Contribution Today! Each year at the end of the List Fund Raiser, I post a message acknowledging everyone that so generously made a Contribution to support the Lists. Its my way of publicly thanking everyone that took a minute to show their appreciation for the Lists. Please take a moment and assure that your name is on that List of Contributors (LOC)! As a number of members have pointed out over the years, the List seems at least as valuable a building / entertainment tool as your typical magazine subscription! Assure that your name is on this year's LOC! Show others that you appreciate the Lists. Making a Contribution to support the Lists is fast and easy using your Credit card or Paypal on the Secure Web Site: http://www.matronics.com/contribution or by dropping a personal check in the mail to: Matt Dralle / Matronics 581 Jeannie Way Livermore CA 94550 I would like to thank everyone that has so generously made a Contribution thus far in this year's List Fund Raiser! Remember that its YOUR support that keeps these Lists going and improving! Don't forget to include a little comment about how the Lists have helped you! Best regards, Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 09, 2013
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Please Make a Contribution to Support Your Lists...
Dear Listers, Just a reminder that November is the Annual List Fund Raiser. Please make a Contribution today to support the continued operation and upgrade of these great List services!! Pick up a really nice free gift with your qualifying Contribution too! The Contribution Site is fast and easy: http://www.matronics.com/contribution or by dropping a personal check in the mail to: Matt Dralle / Matronics 581 Jeannie Way Livermore CA 94551-0347 Thank you! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 11, 2013
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: A List Contribution - It's Your Personal Squelch Button...
There is an automatic "squelch button" of sorts for the Fund Raiser messages. Here's how it works... As soon as a List member makes a Contribution through the Matronics Fund Raiser web site, their email address is automatically added to this year's Contributor List and they instantly cease to receive further Fund Raiser messages for the rest of the month! Its just that simple! :-) I really do appreciate each and every one of your individual Contributions to support the Lists. It is your support that enables me to upgrade the hardware and software that are required to run a List Site such as this one. It also goes to pay for the commercial-grade Internet connection and to pay the huge electric bill to keep the computer gear running and the air conditioner powered on. I run all of the Matronics Email List and Forums sites here locally which allows me to control and monitor every aspect of the system for the utmost in reliably and performance. Your personal Contribution matters because, when combined with other Listers such as yourself, it pays the bills to keep this site up and running. I accept exactly ZERO advertising dollars for the Matronics Lists sites. I can't stand the pop-up ads and all other commercials that are so prevalent on the Internet these days and I particularly don't want to have it on my Email List sites. If you appreciate the ad-free, grass-roots, down-home feel of the Matronics Email Lists, please make a Contribution to keep it that way!! http://www.matronics.com/contribution or, you can send a personal check to the following address: Matronics / Matt Dralle 581 Jeannie Way Livermore, CA 94550 Thank you! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator [Note that there are certain circumstances where you might still see a Contribution related message. For example, if someone replies to one of the messages, when using the List Browse feature, or when accessing List message via the Forum. The system keys on the given email address and since most of these are anonymous public access methods, there is no simple way to filter them.] ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 11, 2013
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Matronics Email Disruption Fixed...
Dear Listers, Starting around midnight this morning 11/11/13, the Matronics Barracuda spam filter that receives all incoming email from the Internet, developed a problem and started rejecting all incoming email. I just got off the phone with the Barracuda technical support and we have If you have posted to any of the Lists during this time, you will need to resend your email to the respective List. My apologies for the disruption! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List and Forum Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 13, 2013
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Please Make A List Contribution Today; Some Nice Comments...
Dear Listers, I've been getting some very nice comments from Listers along with their List Support Contributions. I've shared a number of them below. Please read them over and see what your fellow Listers think of the Lists and Forums. Please make a Contribution today to support the continued upgrade and operation of these services. There are lots of really nice gifts available this year, so please browse the selections and pickup something fun with your qualifying Contribution! You may use a credit card or your PayPal account here: http://www.matronics.com/contribution Or feel free to send a personal check to: Matronics / Matt Dralle 581 Jeannie Way Livermore CA 94550 Thank you in advance for your generous support! It is very much appreciated! Best regards, Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator -------------------- What Listers Are Saying About The Lists -------------------- I wondered off for a few years & am coming back. I firmly believe you provide greater value to us than some magazine subscriptions. William F Thanks for helping me connect to people have truly blazed the trail. Terry M Thank you for the time and effort you put into keeping these lists going. I am on the verge of flying my RV 8 and would not be here without the help of Matronics. Michael W Thank you for providing a valuable service. Vaughn T Matt I like your forums. Jerry D Thank you for another year of service. Oscar Z Been a "member" for years - this has been a fantastic resource and a great gift to the aviation community. Reade G Thanks for the many years of support to RV builders. Roy H Best run list on the net. Roger C Thanks for your excellent forum! Fred D Truly respect your work and service to many readers!! Fergus K Thanks for an ad-free list! William A Thank you for your GREAT service. I read it every day. John B ..great service! Ralph C Thanks so much for being there. Your contribution to aviation knowledge is invaluable. Benjamin B Thank you for providing the list service. It's great! William V I'd never have finished my Glasair without them. Ronald C Thank you Matt for the valuable forum, am pleased to contribute! Jeffrey J Fine service. Byron G Thanks for your support of our community! Kenneth B -------------------- What Listers Are Saying About The Lists -------------------- ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 15, 2013
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Make Sure You're Listed! List of Contributors Published
in December! Dear Listers, The List of Contributors (LOC) is just around the corner! In December I post a list of everyone that so generously made a Contribution to support the Lists. Its my way of publicly thanking everyone that took a minute to show their appreciation for the Lists. Won't you take minute and assure that your name is on the upcoming LOC? Tell others that you appreciate the Lists. Making a Contribution to support the Lists is fast and easy using your Visa, MasterCard, or Paypal account: http://www.matronics.com/contribution Or, drop a personal check in the mail to: Matt Dralle / Matronics 581 Jeannie Way Livermore CA 94550 USA I would like to thank everyone that has so generously made a Contribution thus far during this year's List Fund Raiser! Remember that its YOUR support that keeps these Lists running and improving! Don't forget to include a little comment about how the Lists have helped you! Thank you! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator

November 30, 2008 - November 18, 2013

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