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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
Dear Listers,
I'm in the market for a top-notch canopy cover for the RV-8. I'm wanting the highest
quality materials and workmanship on the product. I want it for overnight
trips where it might rain so it needs to completely cover the front baggage
door. When folded up, I don't want it to completely fill the limited rear baggage
area in the RV-8, either.
I Google RV-8 Canopy Cover as well as looked at Van's Online catalog, and there
seems to be plenty of "options", but I'm looking for some empirical data on quality,
fit, and stowage.
Thanks in advance for your feedback!
Matt Dralle
RV-8 #82880 N998RV
http://www.mattsrv8.com - Matt's RV-8 Construction Log
http://www.youtube.com/MattsRV8 - Matt's RV-8 HDTV YouTube Channel
Status: Enjoying The Fruits of 2500 Hours of Labor...
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Heyden Thomas <vmax737(at)hotmail.com> |
vmax737(at)hotmail.com
Tom Vander Heyden
239-597-1842
Matt
Could you please verify my user name as "Vmax" I was not able to sign in t
o post a question
Thanks
Vmax
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| From: | Heyden Thomas <vmax737(at)hotmail.com> |
Fellow RV enthusiast
My fuselage kit is just about completed except for the fuel pump. Any comm
ents on using the Andair fuel pump=2C filter and selector valve? Van's sta
ndard valve is currently installed.
Thanks in advance your comments.
Vmax
RV7
XIO-360 from Van's in the future
N497TV
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| From: | Hugh Ragg <hragg(at)me.com> |
I changed the vans one for the Andair
So much better however the plumbing
Needs adapting. Worth the extra work. Andair new
Fuel pump looks great I would have liked
To had had this instead of the original one. So
Many pipes and fittings compared to the new one.
Regards
Hugh
Sent from my iPhone
On 06/08/2010, at 8:59 AM, Heyden Thomas wrote:
> Fellow RV enthusiast
>
> My fuselage kit is just about completed except for the fuel pump. Any comments
on using the Andair fuel pump, filter and selector valve? Van's standard valve
is currently installed.
>
> Thanks in advance your comments.
>
> Vmax
> RV7
> XIO-360 from Van's in the future
> N497TV
>
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Tom V <vmax737(at)hotmail.com> |
Thanks Hugh. I have Van valve in now. Do you think I need to redo the fuel l
ines if I buy the Andair?
Tom
Sent from my iPhone
On Aug 6, 2010, at 11:59, Hugh Ragg wrote:
> I changed the vans one for the Andair
> So much better however the plumbing
> Needs adapting. Worth the extra work. Andair new
> Fuel pump looks great I would have liked
> To had had this instead of the original one. So
> Many pipes and fittings compared to the new one.
>
>
> Regards
>
> Hugh
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On 06/08/2010, at 8:59 AM, Heyden Thomas wrote:
>
>> Fellow RV enthusiast
>>
>> My fuselage kit is just about completed except for the fuel pump. Any co
mments on using the Andair fuel pump, filter and selector valve? Van's stan
dard valve is currently installed.
>>
>> Thanks in advance your comments.
>>
>> Vmax
>> RV7
>> XIO-360 from Van's in the future
>> N497TV
>>
>>
>>
>
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| From: | Hugh Ragg <hragg(at)me.com> |
You will need to fiddle a bit to get it plummed it is not to difficult well worth
the change. I felt more comfortable with andair v vans it not only looks better
bit is secure when selecting the tank position. Take your time in my view
it is well worth it. Also check out andair new fuel pump. I saw it at Osh very
nice compact unit.
Regards
Hugh
Sent from my iPhone
On 06/08/2010, at 12:52 PM, Tom V wrote:
> Thanks Hugh. I have Van valve in now. Do you think I need to redo the fuel lines
if I buy the Andair?
> Tom
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Aug 6, 2010, at 11:59, Hugh Ragg wrote:
>
>> I changed the vans one for the Andair
>> So much better however the plumbing
>> Needs adapting. Worth the extra work. Andair new
>> Fuel pump looks great I would have liked
>> To had had this instead of the original one. So
>> Many pipes and fittings compared to the new one.
>>
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Hugh
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On 06/08/2010, at 8:59 AM, Heyden Thomas wrote:
>>
>>> Fellow RV enthusiast
>>>
>>> My fuselage kit is just about completed except for the fuel pump. Any comments
on using the Andair fuel pump, filter and selector valve? Van's standard
valve is currently installed.
>>>
>>> Thanks in advance your comments.
>>>
>>> Vmax
>>> RV7
>>> XIO-360 from Van's in the future
>>> N497TV
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
>
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| From: | Richard Martin <martinaerodrome(at)gmail.com> |
200Suggest that you consider Airflow perfomance for your fuel system,
conatact Dan Rivera for information and advice. I have almost 2000 hours
on their equipment with no problems and excellent performance, Dan Rivera.
Also I have used the Andair fuel selecter valve since new with no
problems and excellentg performance, (note, your must conciously select the
proper tank because of the design of the valve, preventing wrong selection).
Dick Martin
RV8 N233M
2000 plus hours with no problems.
On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 7:59 AM, Heyden Thomas wrote:
> Fellow RV enthusiast
>
> My fuselage kit is just about completed except for the fuel pump. Any
> comments on using the Andair fuel pump, filter and selector valve? Van's
> standard valve is currently installed.
>
> Thanks in advance your comments.
>
> Vmax
> RV7
> XIO-360 from Van's in the future
> N497TV
>
> *
>
>
> *
>
>
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| From: | Heyden Thomas <vmax737(at)hotmail.com> |
| Subject: | Vertical Power VP-X Electrical Systems |
Thank you for all your comments on fuel pumps and fuel selectors. Another
area that I am starting work to work on is the electrical system. The Vert
ical Power VP-X systems seems to greatly simply the wiring process. I woul
d appreciate any feedback on using the VP-X=2C I admit I am electrically c
hallenged and anything to simplify putting together the electrical system w
ould be helpful. Does is save time and simplify the wiring process?
Thanks in advance.
Vmax
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Bob Collins <bcollinsrv7a(at)comcast.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Vertical Power VP-X Electrical Systems |
I've installed the VP-50 because I don't have the fancy, schmancy EFIS
that you need for the VP-X. I love this system. I guess the VP-X is even
better. The other day I added wig-wag capability to the plane. I didn't
need to do any more wiring, or buy any wig-waggy equipment. I just
needed to do a software upgrade ( a free upgrade). I've added a section
to my blog about VP
http://rvnewsletter.blogspot.com/search/label/Vertical%20Power
I've included a video in there about how easy it is to hook up a
component, and get it running. The biggest thing I like about VP-50 is I
have a TON of panel space available because I don't have a lot of it set
aside for circuit breakers and switches.
On 8/8/2010 8:12 PM, Heyden Thomas wrote:
>
> Thank you for all your comments on fuel pumps and fuel selectors.
> Another area that I am starting work to work on is the electrical
> system. The Vertical Power VP-X systems seems to greatly simply the
> wiring process. I would appreciate any feedback on using the VP-X, I
> admit I am electrically challenged and anything to simplify putting
> together the electrical system would be helpful. Does is save time
> and simplify the wiring process?
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Vmax
>
> *
>
>
> *
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Vertical Power VP-X Electrical Systems |
At 06:12 PM 8/8/2010 Sunday, you wrote:
>Thank you for all your comments on fuel pumps and fuel selectors. Another area
that I am starting work to work on is the electrical system. The Vertical Power
VP-X systems seems to greatly simply the wiring process. I would appreciate
any feedback on using the VP-X, I admit I am electrically challenged and
anything to simplify putting together the electrical system would be helpful.
Does is save time and simplify the wiring process?
>
>Thanks in advance.
>
>Vmax
Hi Heyden,
I have the Vertical Power VP-200 system in my RV-8 and love it. I wouldn't build
another homebuilt without one. I have a great deal of experience documentation
on my RV-8 Construction log under the "Electrical" and "Avionics" sections.
Below are links to each. Scroll down on the respective pages.
Electrical System
----------------
http://www.mattsrv8.com/users/category.php?user=MattsRV8&project=638&category=3912
Avionics Systems
----------------
http://www.mattsrv8.com/users/category.php?user=MattsRV8&project=638&category=2971
(Look around 03-25-2009 for the final wiring installation).
Marc Ausman of Vertical Power was a tremendous help to me during the design and
installation of the electrical system. My score for the VP-200 system? 10/10.
Hands down the coolest way to build a modern day aircraft electrical system.
Matt Dralle
RV-8 #82880 N998RV
http://www.mattsrv8.com - Matt's RV-8 Construction Log
http://www.youtube.com/MattsRV8 - Matt's RV-8 HDTV YouTube Channel
Status: Enjoying The Fruits of 2500 Hours of Labor...
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| Subject: | Re: Fuel Pump and Valve |
| From: | allenblck(at)netscape.net |
Has anyone used the Aveoengineering fuel selector valve yet? It really loo
ked like a quality valve.
Allen Blackwell
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Brian Meyette" <bmeyette(at)gmail.com> |
| Subject: | RV-7A project for sale or trade for RV-12 kit |
I've decided to sell my RV-7A project. It's dragged on and on, and I've lost
interest in completing it. I have more interest in just flying my Challenger
II. The RV-7A is about 80% done.
Engine is Subaru WRX STi 2.5 L supercharged. All the bugs are worked out of
the original Eggenfellner product. Most Eggenfellner-supplied components
have been replaced; SDS ECU, custom radiators, new wiring harness,
supercharger gearing. Engine runs great, and all it needs is probably some
more fine-tuning of the SDS ECU. John Moody in Australia has been flying his
awhile. Includes latest Gen3 rev 4 PSRU, installed. Includes MT7 electric
prop, installed.
Three EFIS systems installed - Blue Mountain "gold box" EFIS/One, GRT
Horizon, and Dynon D10. Blue Mountain AP installed. GRT EIS installed
Full Garmin stack trays and Sandia TSOd encoder installed
Tipup canopy completed but not final-installed.
Needs rear window installed, 1 panel each wing installed, top fuse panel
behind window and fwd of canopy installed (left out for wiring access). No
fiberglass work done.
Includes Advanced Flight Systems AoA, wig-wag HID lights, bulletproof
electrical system based on Bob Nuckolls' designs and Perihelion products,
low fuel warning, low coolant warning, fuel pressure warning, electric
flaps, electric trim, custom console, heater, Oregon Aero seats, Hooker
harness, Show Planes Flaps Positioning System, Infinity Aerospace grips,
cabin lighting, custom baggage compartment and other customizations (see my
custom page <http://www.meyette.us/custom.htm>
http://www.meyette.us/custom.htm ).
Includes finishing kit and all parts to finish it. All gear mounted and
brakes installed. Van's front gear leg SB installed. Panel complete, except
Garmin wiring.
Empennage is done & final-installed. Flaps & ailerons all done & fitted.
Wings not installed.
And much more - this is a list off the top of my head of some of the main
components.
Entire project very extensively documented at
<http://www.meyette.us/RV-7Ahome.htm> http://www.meyette.us/RV-7Ahome.htm No
effort or expense spared in doing everything RIGHT. Everyone who's looked at
it, including 3 EAA Tech Inspector visits, says all the workmanship is
excellent
Every part needed to finish and fly the plane is included; nothing left to
buy.
Only asking $45k for it - way less than cost and making the FWF essentially
FREE. Will also trade it for an RV-12 kit, in case someone has decided
they'd like a faster plane.
Will sell it without the FWF for $39K; hardly more than the cost of the kits
alone. Less than the cost of parts, not even counting the BMA EFIS or the
FWF.
Located at VSF, Springfield, VT
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Brownsville California Photos - Inspiration! |
We flew up to Brownsville California on Saturday and since the RV-8 had just had
baby's first bath since the test flight (now at 85 hours TTSN, and almost 10,000
miles), there were some great opportunities for photo ops. Everyday I seem
to enjoy flying the RV-8 even more. It is truly a joy to fly in every respect.
On the way home, I had the IO-390 engine dialed in at 7000ft, 22.4" MP /
2200 RPM and 204 MPH True at 8.8 GPH. Earlier in the week I took it to 18,000ft
(on oxygen) and was seeing 170 MPH True at 5.5 GPH, 192 MPH @ 6.5 GPH, and
202 MPG @ 7 GPH. At the 5.5 GPH, that's about a 1300 mile range less reserves.
Coupled with the 3000+ FPM climb solo, its a truly amazing machine!
Keep at it! You won't be sorry! It is so worth all the hard work!
-
Matt Dralle
RV-8 #82880 N998RV
http://www.mattsrv8.com - Matt's RV-8 Construction Log
http://www.youtube.com/MattsRV8 - Matt's RV-8 HDTV YouTube Channel
Status: Enjoying The Fruits of 2500 Hours of Labor...
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Performance Numbers - IO-390/Hartzell/RV-8 |
Dear Listers,
So I could smell the disbelief in the air regarding my performance claims, so tonight
after work I went up and did some testing. All tests were at the same
altitude with the autopilot on, going the same direction (mostly South) with a
Westerly wind over about the same 25 mile area.
One interesting thing that I noticed tonight that I hadn't in the past was what
a dramatic effect exacting leaning could have on the speed for a given power/prop
setting. A small adjustment in the mixture could increase or decrease the
speed sometimes as much as 5 MPH.
Below is a table of the numbers I saw tonight. I've include the spreadsheet as
well as photos of each setting from the EFIS PDF/Engine data.
All numbers on the EFISs are in MPH. The GPS GS is in the upper left corner of
the PFD. The TAS is on the bottom right side of the PFD display. Indicated
is on the left side in the middle of the PFD. Temp is in the upper left corner
of the Eng display. MAP, RPM, and Flow are also on the Eng display shown as
gauges with text.
An interesting thing I noticed that at 27.x MAP, adjusting the RPM between 2000
and 2690 had a 9.8 to 17.0 impact of fuel flow (7.2 GPH) and a 22MPH impact on
speed. That's about a $32/hr difference.
Emacs!
Let the discussion begin... ;-)
Matt Dralle
RV-8 #82880 N998RV
http://www.mattsrv8.com - Matt's RV-8 Construction Blog
http://www.youtube.com/MattsRV8 - Matt's RV-8 HDTV YouTube Channel
Status: Enjoying The Fruits of 2500 Hours of Labor!
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| From: | "Allen Fulmer" <afulmer(at)charter.net> |
| Subject: | Different hinge material on drawings |
It has been several years since I inventoried my finish kit so I have kind
of lost track of which hinge goes where and why.
If I understand DWG#45 for RV7 there are two types of hinges material
specified and 2 types of hinge pins:
The side hinges that connect the top and bottom halves are AN257-P3. These
get a .090 stainless pin.
Top, bottom, and sides of cowl use "1/8" piano hinge" (which is different
from AN257-P3), and get a 1/8" SS pin EXCEPT the top hinges that get a .090
SS pin.
Why not use the same 1/8" piano hinge on the cowl sides? (It looks so much
more substantial.) Not as much load I guess?
I had to order the AN257-P3 since I had "cannibalized" some of it (for
something) and I ordered some P3 and P4 (1/8" wider, same pin dia.) figuring
I would make the two side hinges using half P3 and half P4 and set the
bottom half up enough so the "loops" would not show at the parting line
between the cowl halves. Other than being a little anal about it, does
anyone see any problems with this idea?
Other than the increased cost would it be any better to use the extruded
hinge material?
Thanks,
Allen Fulmer
N808AF reserved
RV7 fitting cowl
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Cut Exhaust Stacks |
| From: | "RV7ASask" <rv7alamb(at)sasktel.net> |
I marked my Vetterman Exhaust to cut the pipes off parallel to the bottom of the
aircraft. That would mean the hole is parallel to the airflow and the pipes
would come to a bit of a point. My local mechanic suggested I should leave them
as delivered, the hole 90 degrees to the pipe and the airflow. He said there
was better thrust/power/drag.
Looking at Larry Vetterman's Skunkworks http://www.vettermanexhaust.com/ he has cut the pipes as I proposed in a couple of his iterations. The one advantage I can immediately see is there is less pipe hanging out to drag plus it looks better.
Can anyone come up with a good reason one way or the other to cut or not to cut?
Thanks
David Lamb
RV7A
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=311556#311556
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| From: | Max Hegler <maxhegler(at)msn.com> |
| Subject: | Cut Exhaust Stacks |
Maybe a little more thrust with the pipes cut off at 90 degrees. Other than
that=2C I would suggest contacting Vetterman and see if they have any pro'
s and con's either way.
Max RV-7 (#2)
> Subject: RV7-List: Cut Exhaust Stacks
> From: rv7alamb(at)sasktel.net
> Date: Mon=2C 6 Sep 2010 11:32:16 -0700
> To: rv7-list(at)matronics.com
>
>
> I marked my Vetterman Exhaust to cut the pipes off parallel to the bottom
of the aircraft. That would mean the hole is parallel to the airflow and t
he pipes would come to a bit of a point. My local mechanic suggested I shou
ld leave them as delivered=2C the hole 90 degrees to the pipe and the airfl
ow. He said there was better thrust/power/drag.
>
> Looking at Larry Vetterman's Skunkworks http://www.vettermanexhaust.com/
he has cut the pipes as I proposed in a couple of his iterations. The one
advantage I can immediately see is there is less pipe hanging out to drag p
lus it looks better.
>
> Can anyone come up with a good reason one way or the other to cut or not
to cut?
>
> Thanks
>
> David Lamb
> RV7A
>
>
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=311556#311556
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| From: | "John Myers" <jmyers(at)FLYINGMRANCH.US> |
| Subject: | Re: Cut Exhaust Stacks |
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| From: | rvaitor(at)comcast.net |
| Subject: | Re: Cut Exhaust Stacks |
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Myers" <jmyers(at)FLYINGMRANCH.US>
Sent: Monday, September 6, 2010 4:53:41 PM
Subject: Re: RV7-List: Cut Exhaust Stacks
In my opinion, you probably get the most positive results from
slanting the existing length pipes at between 25 and 30 degrees down. Le ss
and you get exhaust pulses "thumping" on the bottom of the fuselage, more
than that and you get more drag. 25-30 degrees should give you a miniscu le amount
of positive thrust.
I seem to get a little vibration on the floorboards and have exhaust extensions
that tilt down. When I lift my feet off the floor I can feel the vibration. Any
ideas or suggestions would be appreciated.
Shelby Smith
RV7
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| Subject: | Re: Cut Exhaust Stacks |
| From: | "RV7ASask" <rv7alamb(at)sasktel.net> |
As someone suggested I contacted Larry Vetterman on the issue of cutting off the
exhaust pipes and here is his reply:
"David, your mechanic is correct. I have tried many combinations and none
of them increased performance but some of them increased the vibration
level. So my suggestion is leave them as they are. Larry"
I think I will leave them as they are!
David
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=311795#311795
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| From: | "Scott" <scott(at)randolphs.net> |
| Subject: | RE: RV7-List Digest: 1 Msgs - 08/22/10 |
Two comments related to cowl mounting:
1) The hinge pin along the sides of the cowl is very long and if you don't
use the undersized pin, you may not be able to slide it in without bending
it. Especially down the line when it collects a bit of oil and dust and
what not.
2) I'm not sure what you mean about setting the hinge "up enough" to hide
the loops? The loops should face inward with the flat side of the hinge
mounted to the fiberglass cowling. There should be no appreciable gap
between the cowl halves. Just a little hole in the front for the pin to
slide in. Down the sides, though, it's invisible.
Sorry if I've misunderstood what you're after. Good luck!
Scott.
RV6A
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From: "Allen Fulmer" <afulmer(at)charter.net>
Subject: RV7-List: Different hinge material on drawings
It has been several years since I inventoried my finish kit so I have kind
of lost track of which hinge goes where and why.
If I understand DWG#45 for RV7 there are two types of hinges material
specified and 2 types of hinge pins:
The side hinges that connect the top and bottom halves are AN257-P3. These
get a .090 stainless pin.
Top, bottom, and sides of cowl use "1/8" piano hinge" (which is different
from AN257-P3), and get a 1/8" SS pin EXCEPT the top hinges that get a .090
SS pin.
Why not use the same 1/8" piano hinge on the cowl sides? (It looks so much
more substantial.) Not as much load I guess?
I had to order the AN257-P3 since I had "cannibalized" some of it (for
something) and I ordered some P3 and P4 (1/8" wider, same pin dia.) figuring
I would make the two side hinges using half P3 and half P4 and set the
bottom half up enough so the "loops" would not show at the parting line
between the cowl halves. Other than being a little anal about it, does
anyone see any problems with this idea?
Other than the increased cost would it be any better to use the extruded
hinge material?
Thanks,
Allen Fulmer
N808AF reserved
RV7 fitting cowl
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Oil Cooler Mount Cracking... |
Dear Listers,
I took the cowling off the 'ol RV-8 today to have a look around at about the 112
TTSN hour mark. Most everything looked okay except for one major issue. The
outside, lower back mount on the oil cooler is totally cracked off. The outside,
lower front mount also has a long crack. At this point, the upper part
of the mount seems alright. Also the inside mounts show no signs of cracks.
The rear flange on the baffling has a small crack where the left rear part rivets
to the back baffle that the oil cooler is bolted to. No oil leaks of any
kind at this point. See attached pictures from my Cell Phone.
So what the heck? The engine shakes quite a bit on startup and shutdown (smooth
as glass during normal ops), but this doesn't really seem like rotational shake
damage. Although, it must be. Obviously I'm going to have to remove the
oil cooler and have it repaired (that can be done, right?). But just "fixing"
the mounting flanges isn't going to solve the "problem".
What are lister's opinion on what's going on here and what could be done to prevent
it?
Interestingly, I noted that the #4 grounding cable that is attached to a bolt hole
right underneath the oil cooler also had the lug sheered off. There is "service
loop" on the cable, but #4 isn't really flexible so its not particular
effective. Guess I need more. The point though, is, that it seems like the engine
shook pretty hard. I don't see any other signs of "issues" related. The
mounts and bolts seem solid and tight.
Thoughts?
-
Matt Dralle
RV-8 #82880 N998RV
http://www.mattsrv8.com - Matt's RV-8 Construction Blog
http://www.youtube.com/MattsRV8 - Matt's RV-8 HDTV YouTube Channel
Status: 112+ Hours TTSN!
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| From: | "Don" <dsvs(at)ca.rr.com> |
| Subject: | Oil Cooler Mount Cracking... |
Matt,
Yes you can get the cooler flang fixed at Pacific Oi Cooler. You should
think about tying the cooler to the engine to avoid the shakes breaking the
baffles and flanges. One other thing I see that will bite you in the long
run is the use to fubeing as spacers. If you do this it will need steel
washers at each end or it will eventually lead to additional cracks. Trim
the tubes by the thickness of two full thickness washers and install one at
each end. If you mount the cooler to the firewall expect a reduction in
cooling as the four inch flex tube has a smaller area than your current
opening.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv7-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv7-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Matt Dralle
Sent: Sunday, October 17, 2010 7:11 PM
Subject: RV7-List: Oil Cooler Mount Cracking...
Dear Listers,
I took the cowling off the 'ol RV-8 today to have a look around at about the
112 TTSN hour mark. Most everything looked okay except for one major issue.
The outside, lower back mount on the oil cooler is totally cracked off. The
outside, lower front mount also has a long crack. At this point, the upper
part of the mount seems alright. Also the inside mounts show no signs of
cracks. The rear flange on the baffling has a small crack where the left
rear part rivets to the back baffle that the oil cooler is bolted to. No
oil leaks of any kind at this point. See attached pictures from my Cell
Phone.
So what the heck? The engine shakes quite a bit on startup and shutdown
(smooth as glass during normal ops), but this doesn't really seem like
rotational shake damage. Although, it must be. Obviously I'm going to have
to remove the oil cooler and have it repaired (that can be done, right?).
But just "fixing" the mounting flanges isn't going to solve the "problem".
What are lister's opinion on what's going on here and what could be done to
prevent it?
Interestingly, I noted that the #4 grounding cable that is attached to a
bolt hole right underneath the oil cooler also had the lug sheered off.
There is "service loop" on the cable, but #4 isn't really flexible so its
not particular effective. Guess I need more. The point though, is, that it
seems like the engine shook pretty hard. I don't see any other signs of
"issues" related. The mounts and bolts seem solid and tight.
Thoughts?
-
Matt Dralle
RV-8 #82880 N998RV
http://www.mattsrv8.com - Matt's RV-8 Construction Blog
http://www.youtube.com/MattsRV8 - Matt's RV-8 HDTV YouTube Channel
Status: 112+ Hours TTSN!
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| From: | David Cudney <yenduc(at)me.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Oil Cooler Mount Cracking... |
I angled a brace from the oil cooler mount across to the center seam
of the engine block where the engine lift loop is mounted. It took
the vibration out of the oil cooler mount and no cracks so far (210
hours).
On Oct 17, 2010, at 7:10 PM, Matt Dralle wrote:
> Good luck
Dave@ RAL
> Dear Listers,
>
> I took the cowling off the 'ol RV-8 today to have a look around at
> about the 112 TTSN hour mark. Most everything looked okay except
> for one major issue. The outside, lower back mount on the oil
> cooler is totally cracked off. The outside, lower front mount also
> has a long crack. At this point, the upper part of the mount seems
> alright. Also the inside mounts show no signs of cracks. The rear
> flange on the baffling has a small crack where the left rear part
> rivets to the back baffle that the oil cooler is bolted to. No oil
> leaks of any kind at this point. See attached pictures from my Cell
> Phone.
>
> So what the heck? The engine shakes quite a bit on startup and
> shutdown (smooth as glass during normal ops), but this doesn't
> really seem like rotational shake damage. Although, it must be.
> Obviously I'm going to have to remove the oil cooler and have it
> repaired (that can be done, right?). But just "fixing" the mounting
> flanges isn't going to solve the "problem".
>
> What are lister's opinion on what's going on here and what could be
> done to prevent it?
>
> Interestingly, I noted that the #4 grounding cable that is attached
> to a bolt hole right underneath the oil cooler also had the lug
> sheered off. There is "service loop" on the cable, but #4 isn't
> really flexible so its not particular effective. Guess I need
> more. The point though, is, that it seems like the engine shook
> pretty hard. I don't see any other signs of "issues" related. The
> mounts and bolts seem solid and tight.
>
> Thoughts?
>
>
> -
> Matt Dralle
> RV-8 #82880 N998RV
> http://www.mattsrv8.com - Matt's RV-8 Construction Blog
> http://www.youtube.com/MattsRV8 - Matt's RV-8 HDTV YouTube Channel
> Status: 112+ Hours TTSN! <2010.10.17 - RV-8 - IO-390 Oil Cooler
> Mount Cracking (1).jpg><2010.10.17 - RV-8 - IO-390 Oil Cooler Mount
> Cracking (2).jpg>
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| From: | "Joseph F. Giallo, II" <jgiallo(at)mindspring.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Oil Cooler Mount Cracking... |
Matt,
In addition to the washers at either end of the aluminum spacer tubes I
also have a piece of 0.125 aluminum angle running from the inboard oil
cooler mounting point (top, inside the baffles) to the center of the
engine. Essentially you can move the entire aircraft using the oil
cooler - this is the "strong enough" test....see the enclosed picture -
so far so good.
Regards,
Joe
N813MJ 100hrs
Matt Dralle wrote:
>Dear Listers,
>
>I took the cowling off the 'ol RV-8 today to have a look around at about the 112
TTSN hour mark. Most everything looked okay except for one major issue. The
outside, lower back mount on the oil cooler is totally cracked off. The outside,
lower front mount also has a long crack. At this point, the upper part
of the mount seems alright. Also the inside mounts show no signs of cracks.
The rear flange on the baffling has a small crack where the left rear part rivets
to the back baffle that the oil cooler is bolted to. No oil leaks of any
kind at this point. See attached pictures from my Cell Phone.
>
>So what the heck? The engine shakes quite a bit on startup and shutdown (smooth
as glass during normal ops), but this doesn't really seem like rotational shake
damage. Although, it must be. Obviously I'm going to have to remove the
oil cooler and have it repaired (that can be done, right?). But just "fixing"
the mounting flanges isn't going to solve the "problem".
>
>What are lister's opinion on what's going on here and what could be done to prevent
it?
>
>Interestingly, I noted that the #4 grounding cable that is attached to a bolt
hole right underneath the oil cooler also had the lug sheered off. There is "service
loop" on the cable, but #4 isn't really flexible so its not particular
effective. Guess I need more. The point though, is, that it seems like the
engine shook pretty hard. I don't see any other signs of "issues" related. The
mounts and bolts seem solid and tight.
>
>Thoughts?
>
>
>-
>Matt Dralle
>RV-8 #82880 N998RV
>http://www.mattsrv8.com - Matt's RV-8 Construction Blog
>http://www.youtube.com/MattsRV8 - Matt's RV-8 HDTV YouTube Channel
>Status: 112+ Hours TTSN!
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
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| Subject: | Re: Oil Cooler Mount Cracking... |
| From: | Dan Bergeron <dan.pat.b(at)gmail.com> |
MATT:
NOT SURE - BUT LOOKING AT BOTH YOUR PICTURES IT LOOKS LIKE THE OIL
COOLER FLANGE HAS BEEN HITTING THE ENGINE MOUNT TUBES. I NOTICED WHAT
APPEARS TO BE AN ABRASION MARK WHERE THE OIL COOLER FLANGE (ON THE
RIGHT AS YOU LOOK AT THE PICTURE) HAS BEEN IN CONTACT WITH THE UPPER
MOUNT TUBE AND POSSIBLY WITH THE LOWER LOOKING MOUNT TUBE AS WELL.
IF THAT HAS BEEN HAPPENING IT WOULD HAVE PUT A LOT OF STRESS ON THOSE
FLANGES.
GOOD LUCK.
DAN BERGERON
RV-7A N307TB
198 HOURS SINCE FIRST
FLIGHT ON 08/06/99
On 10/17/10, Matt Dralle wrote:
>
> Dear Listers,
>
> I took the cowling off the 'ol RV-8 today to have a look around at about the
> 112 TTSN hour mark. Most everything looked okay except for one major issue.
> The outside, lower back mount on the oil cooler is totally cracked off.
> The outside, lower front mount also has a long crack. At this point, the
> upper part of the mount seems alright. Also the inside mounts show no signs
> of cracks. The rear flange on the baffling has a small crack where the left
> rear part rivets to the back baffle that the oil cooler is bolted to. No
> oil leaks of any kind at this point. See attached pictures from my Cell
> Phone.
>
> So what the heck? The engine shakes quite a bit on startup and shutdown
> (smooth as glass during normal ops), but this doesn't really seem like
> rotational shake damage. Although, it must be. Obviously I'm going to have
> to remove the oil cooler and have it repaired (that can be done, right?).
> But just "fixing" the mounting flanges isn't going to solve the "problem".
>
> What are lister's opinion on what's going on here and what could be done to
> prevent it?
>
> Interestingly, I noted that the #4 grounding cable that is attached to a
> bolt hole right underneath the oil cooler also had the lug sheered off.
> There is "service loop" on the cable, but #4 isn't really flexible so its
> not particular effective. Guess I need more. The point though, is, that it
> seems like the engine shook pretty hard. I don't see any other signs of
> "issues" related. The mounts and bolts seem solid and tight.
>
> Thoughts?
>
>
> -
> Matt Dralle
> RV-8 #82880 N998RV
> http://www.mattsrv8.com - Matt's RV-8 Construction Blog
> http://www.youtube.com/MattsRV8 - Matt's RV-8 HDTV YouTube Channel
> Status: 112+ Hours TTSN!
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| From: | Charlie England <ceengland(at)bellsouth.net> |
| Subject: | Slobovia Outernational Pumpkin Drop 2010 |
You're cordially invited to the "Lower Slobovia Garden Club" 4th annual
Pumpkin Drop, starting at 11:00 AM on Saturday, November 6, 2009. Lunch
will be served at noon, and pumpkin drop demos begin around 1:30 PM.
Contact info for driving directions is on the attached flyer; nav info
is at
http://www.airnav.com/airport/MS71
Y'all come!
Charlie & Tupper, for the Lower Slobovia Garden Club members
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Oil Cooler Mount Cracks - Replacement Follow Up... |
Dear Listers,
First, let me say thanks to everyone that responded to my post regarding the
oil cooler mount cracks. Lots of great feedback; I really appreciate it.
Rather than subject the Oil Cooler's mounts directly to the mounting screw's
tension, I decided to craft some angle brackets that much more evenly
distribute the load over the original mount. I made a set for the front
and back of the rear mount and a single top bracket for the front mount
that would sandwich the Oil Cooler mount to the rear baffle. I very
carefully trimmed the tube spacers to exactly fit between the front and
back brackets; much more precisely than the original installation. The
inside rear Oil Cooler mount got the requisite top and bottom notching to
clear the engine mount and this time I hogged out a bit more to give even
better clearance. (A couple of people noted the scratches on the motor
mount near these original notches; I believe these were from when I was
filing the original oil cooler, I got a little over zealous and scrapped
the power coat; I don't believe that there has been any incounters between
the oil cooler and the mount due to engine shake.) I also added a few more
rivets on the flanges between the rear and left-rear baffle sheet metal
pieces.
To absorb some of the engine vibration, crafted a "gasket" of sorts from the
same rubber material the baffle seals are made of. This really seem to
nicely isolate the Oil Cooler from the baffle/engine.
Finally, I crafted a sweet stabilization strut from aluminum tube stock to
form a brace from the engine to the top of the rear engine baffle. This
made a HUGE difference in the overall stiffness of the oil cooler and I'm
hoping will be the final modification in solving this Oil Cooler cracking
issue.
Thanks again for all the feedback!
-
Matt Dralle
RV-8 #82880 N998RV
http://www.mattsrv8.com - Matt's RV-8 Construction Blog
http://www.youtube.com/MattsRV8 - Matt's RV-8 HDTV YouTube Channel
Status: 112+ Hours Total Time Since May 2 2010 Test Flight!
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| Subject: | Re: Oil Cooler Mount Cracks - Replacement Follow Up... |
| From: | Hugh Ragg <hragg(at)me.com> |
Nice work, I am very interested in this as my RV7 is almost complete. I looked
at the oil cooler install and will have a very close look at modifying the installation.
Thanks for the valuable feed back
Regards
Hugh
On 25/10/2010, at 10:55 AM, Matt Dralle wrote:
>
> Dear Listers,
>
> First, let me say thanks to everyone that responded to my post regarding the
oil cooler mount cracks. Lots of great feedback; I really appreciate it.
>
> Rather than subject the Oil Cooler's mounts directly to the mounting screw's
tension, I decided to craft some angle brackets that much more evenly distribute
the load over the original mount. I made a set for the front and back of the
rear mount and a single top bracket for the front mount that would sandwich
the Oil Cooler mount to the rear baffle. I very carefully trimmed the tube spacers
to exactly fit between the front and back brackets; much more precisely
than the original installation. The inside rear Oil Cooler mount got the requisite
top and bottom notching to clear the engine mount and this time I hogged
out a bit more to give even better clearance. (A couple of people noted the
scratches on the motor mount near these original notches; I believe these were
from when I was filing the original oil cooler, I got a little over zealous
and scrapped the power coat; I don't believe that there has been any incounters
between the oil cooler and the mount due to engine shake.) I also added a few
more rivets on the flanges between the rear and left-rear baffle sheet metal
pieces.
>
> To absorb some of the engine vibration, crafted a "gasket" of sorts from the
same rubber material the baffle seals are made of. This really seem to nicely
isolate the Oil Cooler from the baffle/engine.
>
> Finally, I crafted a sweet stabilization strut from aluminum tube stock to form
a brace from the engine to the top of the rear engine baffle. This made a
HUGE difference in the overall stiffness of the oil cooler and I'm hoping will
be the final modification in solving this Oil Cooler cracking issue.
>
> Thanks again for all the feedback!
>
>
> -
> Matt Dralle
> RV-8 #82880 N998RV
> http://www.mattsrv8.com - Matt's RV-8 Construction Blog
> http://www.youtube.com/MattsRV8 - Matt's RV-8 HDTV YouTube Channel
> Status: 112+ Hours Total Time Since May 2 2010 Test Flight!
> <2010.10.17 - RV-8 - IO-390 Oil Cooler Mount Cracking (1).jpg><2010.10.17 - RV-8
- IO-390 Oil Cooler Mount Cracking (2).jpg><2010.10.24 - RV-8 - Oil Cooler
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And Remounting (9).jpg>
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| From: | Garey Wittich <gareywittich2000(at)yahoo.com> |
| Subject: | Volunteer my time to help you build your RV |
I have time to help someone on their Project. I have completed the building of
my RV-8A empennage (Acid Etched, Alodined and Mil Epoxy Primered the interior
skins and assembled all parts) and have run out of room to continue building.
I
am a retired electrical engineer and have designed my own Electrical System,
Instr Panel, etc. Have tools to help you, if needed. Hoping to work with
somebody to help them finish their "Project". I have the "itch" to continue
building, but no room to proceed. (This is NOT spam !!)
Garey Wittich (CFI, MEI)
Santa Monica, CA
(310) 392-1682
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Canopy Skirt Buzz... |
Hello Listers,
After the very first flight on the RV-8, I discovered that the fiberglass skirts
around the canopy loved to buzz against the turtle deck skin at anything over
about 100mph. To soften the intersection between the skirt and the skin I added
a row of Velcro-brand "loops" tape all the way around the base of the canopy
skirt on the inside including around the bottom of the windscreen so that
when the canopy was closed any skin to skirt areas were cushioned with a thickness
of the Velcro.
That worked great and totally eliminated the buzzing and also sealed up the cabin
nicely. I was pleased.
But, after a Summer in California and 112 hours of flying, the Velcro just didn't
hold up. In the Summer sun, the glue became gooey and the tape slipped out
of position along the curve behind the passenger and looked like grandma's slip
was showing. Along the extreme rear where the skirts come together and the
fit is pretty tight, the glue squeezed out from the heat and kind of goo-ed all
around on the metal.
So, I removed the skirts a couple of weekends ago and literally spend a whole weekend
removing the Velcro and all of the glue. I was lucky and the in the process
I didn't remove any of the textured paint on the skirts or windscreen frame
- whew, that was a scary two days.
This weekend I finally got to take her out for a flight after the oil cooler replacement
(all went fine, btw) and try out the new "tape-less" installation.
Holy COW!! It was SOOOOOO noisy! At 200mph I took the headphones off and couldn't
believe the DB level. I really couldn't stand the noise level with the headphone
ON, and without then it just plain hurt. I slowed down to about 150mph
and the noise decreased slightly, but not that much. I slowed down to a stall
and finally the buzzing stopped, but as soon as I pushed the nose over and
speeded up a little it started again.
Obviously I'm going to have to put something like the Velco back on the inside
of the canopy frame. But what? I'm guessing that all RV-8's must have this issue.
I surprised there isn't something in the plans to deal with it. Is there
some magic tape/insulator that people are using for this that will hold up
in the heat of the Summer sun?
Thanks in advance!
-
Matt Dralle
RV-8 #82880 N998RV
http://www.mattsrv8.com - Matt's RV-8 Construction Blog
http://www.youtube.com/MattsRV8 - Matt's RV-8 HDTV YouTube Channel
Status: 112+ Hours Total Time Since May 2 2010 Test Flight!
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| From: | Francis Herr <fherr(at)cfl.rr.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Canopy Skirt Buzz... |
Matt,
Is there room for a thin Delrin strip (e.g., 1/6" thick by 1" wide) in
place of the velcro? Countersunk pop rivets could hold it on and it
would fill the space.
See McMaster-Carr catalog (white):
http://www.mcmaster.com/#plastics/=9i9osy. Colors are white,
off-white, brown, and black. The strips can also be "shaved" to fit.
Just a thought.
Francis
RV-7A N968BF
12.1 hours and testing is going very well.
On Oct 30, 2010, at 9:12 PM, Matt Dralle wrote:
Hello Listers,
After the very first flight on the RV-8, I discovered that the
fiberglass skirts around the canopy loved to buzz against the turtle
deck skin at anything over about 100mph. To soften the intersection
between the skirt and the skin I added a row of Velcro-brand "loops"
tape all the way around the base of the canopy skirt on the inside
including around the bottom of the windscreen so that when the canopy
was closed any skin to skirt areas were cushioned with a thickness of
the Velcro.
That worked great and totally eliminated the buzzing and also sealed up
the cabin nicely. I was pleased.
But, after a Summer in California and 112 hours of flying, the Velcro
just didn't hold up. In the Summer sun, the glue became gooey and the
tape slipped out of position along the curve behind the passenger and
looked like grandma's slip was showing. Along the extreme rear where
the skirts come together and the fit is pretty tight, the glue squeezed
out from the heat and kind of goo-ed all around on the metal.
So, I removed the skirts a couple of weekends ago and literally spend a
whole weekend removing the Velcro and all of the glue. I was lucky and
the in the process I didn't remove any of the textured paint on the
skirts or windscreen frame - whew, that was a scary two days.
This weekend I finally got to take her out for a flight after the oil
cooler replacement (all went fine, btw) and try out the new "tape-less"
installation.
Holy COW!! It was SOOOOOO noisy! At 200mph I took the headphones off
and couldn't believe the DB level. I really couldn't stand the noise
level with the headphone ON, and without then it just plain hurt. I
slowed down to about 150mph and the noise decreased slightly, but not
that much. I slowed down to a stall and finally the buzzing stopped,
but as soon as I pushed the nose over and speeded up a little it started
again.
Obviously I'm going to have to put something like the Velco back on the
inside of the canopy frame. But what? I'm guessing that all RV-8's
must have this issue. I surprised there isn't something in the plans to
deal with it. Is there some magic tape/insulator that people are using
for this that will hold up in the heat of the Summer sun?
Thanks in advance!
-
Matt Dralle
RV-8 #82880 N998RV
http://www.mattsrv8.com - Matt's RV-8 Construction Blog
http://www.youtube.com/MattsRV8 - Matt's RV-8 HDTV YouTube Channel
Status: 112+ Hours Total Time Since May 2 2010 Test Flight!
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| From: | Charlie England <ceengland(at)bellsouth.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Canopy Skirt Buzz... |
On 10/30/2010 8:12 PM, Matt Dralle wrote:
> --> RV7-List message posted by: Matt Dralle
>
> Hello Listers,
>
> After the very first flight on the RV-8, I discovered that the fiberglass skirts
around the canopy loved to buzz against the turtle deck skin at anything over
about 100mph. To soften the intersection between the skirt and the skin I
added a row of Velcro-brand "loops" tape all the way around the base of the canopy
skirt on the inside including around the bottom of the windscreen so that
when the canopy was closed any skin to skirt areas were cushioned with a thickness
of the Velcro.
>
> That worked great and totally eliminated the buzzing and also sealed up the cabin
nicely. I was pleased.
>
> But, after a Summer in California and 112 hours of flying, the Velcro just didn't
hold up. In the Summer sun, the glue became gooey and the tape slipped out
of position along the curve behind the passenger and looked like grandma's
slip was showing. Along the extreme rear where the skirts come together and the
fit is pretty tight, the glue squeezed out from the heat and kind of goo-ed
all around on the metal.
>
> So, I removed the skirts a couple of weekends ago and literally spend a whole
weekend removing the Velcro and all of the glue. I was lucky and the in the
process I didn't remove any of the textured paint on the skirts or windscreen
frame - whew, that was a scary two days.
>
> This weekend I finally got to take her out for a flight after the oil cooler
replacement (all went fine, btw) and try out the new "tape-less" installation.
>
> Holy COW!! It was SOOOOOO noisy! At 200mph I took the headphones off and couldn't
believe the DB level. I really couldn't stand the noise level with the
headphone ON, and without then it just plain hurt. I slowed down to about 150mph
and the noise decreased slightly, but not that much. I slowed down to a
stall and finally the buzzing stopped, but as soon as I pushed the nose over and
speeded up a little it started again.
>
> Obviously I'm going to have to put something like the Velco back on the inside
of the canopy frame. But what? I'm guessing that all RV-8's must have this
issue. I surprised there isn't something in the plans to deal with it. Is there
some magic tape/insulator that people are using for this that will hold up
in the heat of the Summer sun?
>
> Thanks in advance!
>
> -
> Matt Dralle
> RV-8 #82880 N998RV
> http://www.mattsrv8.com - Matt's RV-8 Construction Blog
> http://www.youtube.com/MattsRV8 - Matt's RV-8 HDTV YouTube Channel
> Status: 112+ Hours Total Time Since May 2 2010 Test Flight!
If you liked the results you got with the velcro, except the creeping
glue (apologies to Halloween...), You might try using regular velcro
without the adhesive & gluing it on with epoxy.
I don't have any experience using it on a canopy skirt, but I've done it
to the backs of various PDAs & other handheld gadgets, & it seems to
work fine in the plane. I've typically used el-cheapo hardware store
tubes, so if you have any high quality stuff left over it should work
even better.
Charlie
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Re: Canopy Skirt Buzz... |
At 09:45 AM 10/31/2010 Sunday, you wrote:
>
>Matt,
>I haven't had that problem.
>Stan Sutterfield
>I'm guessing that all RV-8's must have this issue.
>
Stan,
Wow, really? Do you have anything between the fiberglass skirt and the top of
the turtledeck? Foam, velcro, etc?
Do you have a perfectly tight fit all the way around? I've got a little pooch
on both sides kind of at the center of the concave, roundy part.
One thing I forgot to mention in my original post was that I tried unlatching the
canopy to see what impact it would have. The buzz got even louder.
Another thing I tried was adjusting the Prop RPM. There was definately a relationship
between the buzz and the RPM, not related to speed of the aircraft. A
harmonic of sorts.
Another odd behavior was that when I was climbing out, I didn't hear it at all.
It wasn't until I pushed the nose over and started picking up speed that it
started.
Matt
-
Matt Dralle
RV-8 #82880 N998RV
http://www.mattsrv8.com - Matt's RV-8 Construction Log
http://www.youtube.com/MattsRV8 - Matt's RV-8 HDTV YouTube Channel
Status: 111+ Hours TTSN - The Fun Never Stops...
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| Subject: | PLEASE READ - List Fund Raiser Kickoff! |
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Transition Training |
At 08:46 AM 11/2/2010 Tuesday, you wrote:
>I've about got my RV-8 ready for final assembly and the insurance companies are
asking of several hours of dual "in type". I don't think there is anyone giving
dual in a RV-8 . . . but maybe a 6 or 7 w/ constant speed prop will do?
>
>Does anyone know of someone offering RV transition training in the mid-west?
or is Alex in Texas the closest?
>
>Thanks,
>--
>Bob Christensen - N83RC
Bob,
I would highly recommend Mike Seager in Vernonia Oregon. I flew with Mike in the
Spring of 2010, the week just before I test flew my RV-8. The experience was
excellent; Easily the best time and money I've spent on the RV-8 project bar
none.
Matt
-
Matt Dralle
RV-8 #82880 N998RV
http://www.mattsrv8.com - Matt's RV-8 Construction Log
http://www.youtube.com/MattsRV8 - Matt's RV-8 HDTV YouTube Channel
Status: 114+ Hours TTSN - The Fun Never Stops...
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| Subject: | November List Fund Raiser |
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Coming Soon - The List of Contributors - Please Make A Contribution |
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| Subject: | Please Support The Lists... |
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| Subject: | Please Make A Contribution... |
Dear Listers,
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | What's My Contribution Used For? |
Dear Listers,
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Just A Few Days Left; Well Behind Last Year... |
Dear Listers,
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| From: | Heyden Thomas <vmax737(at)hotmail.com> |
| Subject: | RV-7 slider canopy binding |
I=92ve drill the canopy to the frame on my RV-7 slider and have encountered
the usual problem=2C it binds on the rollers.
After taking great pains and several hours to adjust the canopy frame as cl
ose to the specs as I could=2C the frame moved very smoothly on the canopy
rails. After drilling the canopy to the frame and putting it back on the c
anopy rail it binds. The frame is being pulled outward by the canopy. Whe
n I move the edges of the canopy inward it moves freely again.
Any suggestions on how to fix it without cracking the canopy?
Thanks for any assistance
Vmax
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| From: | Bill Schoen <flybill2usa(at)msn.com> |
| Subject: | RV-7 slider canopy binding |
Thomas
I had the exact experience. Very frustrating. I think I removed the canopy
from the frame and kept bending it more even though there was a suggested c
hance of the frame cracking at the drilled holes=2C but I proceeded any way
carefully and the frame did not crack. eventually it worked and when I cle
coed the canopy back onto the frame the holes still lined up and the canopy
slides acceptably tho not as smoothly as I would have liked. This was my
worst building experience by far and now am having trouble with the aft ski
rts fairing with the fuselage when the canopy is closed. What a nightmare!
I am not the one to ask about this as I have seen a number of sliders that
seem to work quite well. No idea how they did it. It seems nearly impossibl
e. The frame just seems not to fit the fuselage period=2C no matter how muc
h you tweak it. If it fits up front it bulges in the back someplace else.Tr
ying to bend a square steel tube defies the physics of steel structures. Ar
gh!
Bill Schoen
South Fork=2C Colorado
RV-7 finish kit
From: vmax737(at)hotmail.com
Subject: RV7-List: RV-7 slider canopy binding
Date: Sun=2C 21 Nov 2010 02:10:26 +0000
I=92ve drill the canopy to the frame on my RV-7 slider and have encountered
the usual problem=2C it binds on the rollers.
After taking great pains and several hours to adjust the canopy frame as cl
ose to the specs as I could=2C the frame moved very smoothly on the canopy
rails. After drilling the canopy to the frame and putting it back on the c
anopy rail it binds. The frame is being pulled outward by the canopy. Whe
n I move the edges of the canopy inward it moves freely again.
Any suggestions on how to fix it without cracking the canopy?
Thanks for any assistance
Vmax
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Make Sure You're Listed! List of Contributors Published in |
December!
Dear Listers,
The List of Contributors (LOC) is just around the corner! In December I post a
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Its my way of publicly thanking everyone that took a minute to show their appreciation
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Won't you take minute and assure that your name is on the upcoming LOC? Tell others
that you appreciate the Lists. Making a Contribution to support the Lists
is fast and easy using your Visa, MasterCard, or Paypal account:
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USA
I would like to thank everyone that has so generously made a Contribution thus
far during this year's List Fund Raiser! Remember that its YOUR support that
keeps these Lists running and improving! Don't forget to include a little comment
about how the Lists have
helped you!
Thank you!
Matt Dralle
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| From: | Hugh Ragg <hragg(at)me.com> |
| Subject: | Re: RV-7 slider canopy binding |
Guys
i had the same problem however it just seems to free up with every
slide. I also had a drama with the rear skirts, nearly drove me mad, i
just could not get the skirts to sit flush when the canopy closed. After
going round in circles and nearly giving up for fibreglass I found the
rear of the plexi glass canopy mould kicked up so I just cut more off
the rear section and problem was solved.. Sounds so easy but it nearly
drove me nuts. Have a look at the rear of the canopy on the frame and
see if this is your problem. I am almost ready to screw mine onto the
frame however it needs a few shims and this seems to take more work than
i imagined.
Cheers
Aussie Hugh
On 21/11/2010, at 12:39 PM, Bill Schoen wrote:
> Thomas
>
> I had the exact experience. Very frustrating. I think I removed the
canopy from the frame and kept bending it more even though there was a
suggested chance of the frame cracking at the drilled holes, but I
proceeded any way carefully and the frame did not crack. eventually it
worked and when I clecoed the canopy back onto the frame the holes still
lined up and the canopy slides acceptably tho not as smoothly as I would
have liked. This was my worst building experience by far and now am
having trouble with the aft skirts fairing with the fuselage when the
canopy is closed. What a nightmare! I am not the one to ask about this
as I have seen a number of sliders that seem to work quite well. No idea
how they did it. It seems nearly impossible. The frame just seems not to
fit the fuselage period, no matter how much you tweak it. If it fits up
front it bulges in the back someplace else.Trying to bend a square steel
tube defies the physics of steel structures. Argh!
>
> Bill Schoen
> South Fork, Colorado
> RV-7 finish kit
>
> From: vmax737(at)hotmail.com
> To: rv7-list(at)matronics.com
> Subject: RV7-List: RV-7 slider canopy binding
> Date: Sun, 21 Nov 2010 02:10:26 +0000
>
> I=92ve drill the canopy to the frame on my RV-7 slider and have
encountered the usual problem, it binds on the rollers.
>
> After taking great pains and several hours to adjust the canopy frame
as close to the specs as I could, the frame moved very smoothly on the
canopy rails. After drilling the canopy to the frame and putting it
back on the canopy rail it binds. The frame is being pulled outward by
the canopy. When I move the edges of the canopy inward it moves freely
again.
>
> Any suggestions on how to fix it without cracking the canopy?
>
> Thanks for any assistance
>
> Vmax
>
>
>
>
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Test Flight Video - Part 1 - Takeoff... |
After 23 months and 2400 hours of building, RV-8 N998RV took to the air for the
very first time on May 3 2010. As one would hope with any test flight, it was
uneventful and a pleasure to fly. This Part I of my RV-8 Test Flight documents
the startup, taxi out, take off, and the first circuit around the airport.
The trip to Oregon the week before to fly with Mike Seager was the best money I
spent on the project. During the video, listen for the tower calling out "Eight
Romeo Victor" which is the call sign for my aircraft - N998RV. The audio mix
is from the cockpit including the music, tower, and my various comments during
the flight.
As of November 20 2010, I have about 124 hours total time on the RV-8. It just
gets more and more fun to fly! The Lycoming IO-390 and Constant Speed Prop are
a sweet combination on the RV-8! The triple Grand Rapids HX EFIS installation
along with the Vertical Power VP-200 electrical system and TruTrak two-axis Autopilot
have also performed flawlessly. I highly recommend these fine products.
Finally, if you've been debating on whether to install an entertainment system
in your project, don't hesitate! The PS Engineering 3000 Stereo intercom,
Kenwood DNX8150, and the Bose X headsets are an incredibly sweet combination
that make those long cross countries just fly by! Passengers love having the
secondary LCD screen in the pilot's headrest and high-fidelity entertainment as
well. The Kenwood's Garmin GPS Map display is also a big hit with the passengers
as they can follow along in standard "car-style" navigation context.
Be sure to check out Part II of this video which documents slow flight testing
and landing configuration testing, a couple more circuits around the airport,
landing, taxi back, and returning to the hangar.
This Video is in full 1080p HDTV, so be sure to select a viewing resolution that
works with your computer and is higher than the standard 360p default. At least
the 760p mode, for example. And don't forget to try full-screen mode for the
most impact!
http://www.youtube.com/user/MattsRV8#p/u/0/06MBqaaXFwQ
Enjoy,
Matt
PS - Yeah, I know it took a few months to get this video out. I've been flying
the RV-8 so much, I didn't have time to edit! :-)
-
Matt Dralle
RV-8 #82880 N998RV
http://www.mattsrv8.com - Matt's RV-8 Construction Log
http://www.youtube.com/MattsRV8 - Matt's RV-8 HDTV YouTube Channel
Status: 124+ Hours TTSN - The Fun Never Stops...
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Test Flight Video - Part 2 - Landing... |
This Part II of my RV-8 Test Flight documents slow flight testing and landing configuration
testing, a couple more circuits around the airport, landing, taxi
back, and returning to the hangar.
Note that on the taxi back, the windsock is almost a direct crosswind at about
10 knots as I recall. Makes me even more proud of that first landing, and the
fact that I put it right down on the numbers!
Be sure to check out Part I of this video which documents the startup, taxi out,
take off, and first circuit around the field.
This Video is in full 1080p HDTV, so be sure to select a viewing resolution that
works with your computer and is higher than the standard 360p default. At least
the 760p mode, for example. And don't forget to try full-screen mode for
the most impact!
http://www.youtube.com/user/MattsRV8#p/u/1/2b4C8fb-XAc
Enjoy,
Matt
-
Matt Dralle
RV-8 #82880 N998RV
http://www.mattsrv8.com - Matt's RV-8 Construction Log
http://www.youtube.com/MattsRV8 - Matt's RV-8 HDTV YouTube Channel
Status: 124+ Hours TTSN - The Fun Never Stops...
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Heyden Thomas <vmax737(at)hotmail.com> |
| Subject: | Ignition systems |
I really appreciate the comments on the canopy=2C thank you for all that re
sponded=2C it has been very helpful.
Another issue that I would appreciate some commentary on is ignition system
s. I'm plannng to go with a conventional impluse mag on the left and elect
ronic on the right. Any comments or recommendations would be appreciated.
Vmax
________________________________________________________________________________
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| From: | Hugh Ragg <hragg(at)me.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Ignition systems |
I have both lightspeed plasma 3 no mags two batteries one for the avionics and
one for the ignition. I guess the choice is a personel one. I think there is arguments
for and against but my research with friends who have electronic other
love the smooth running and better fuel burn. The system will run down to 4.5
v so probably will run out of fuel before battery. A matter of opinion.
Cheers
Aussie Hugh
Regards
Hugh
Sent from my iPhone
On 22/11/2010, at 7:50 AM, Heyden Thomas wrote:
> I really appreciate the comments on the canopy, thank you for all that responded,
it has been very helpful.
>
> Another issue that I would appreciate some commentary on is ignition systems.
I'm plannng to go with a conventional impluse mag on the left and electronic
on the right. Any comments or recommendations would be appreciated.
>
> Vmax
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Re: Ignition systems |
| From: | Richard Martin <martinaerodrome(at)gmail.com> |
Ditto to Aussie Hugh.
I have 2000 plus hours on my dual lightspeed ignition systems on my RV8. I
have on of the first systems and am pleased. I uses the dual battery system
also because it gives redundency in the unlikely event that both the
alternnator and one battery failed. I used the large aircraft battery as
primary and a smallbattery wired as a standby. The engine will run approx.
3 hours on the small standby battery in the event that the primary system
failed.
The major advantage of the Lightspeed system is that it is a full
capacitance discharge (40 plus thousand volt) versus a low discharge on the
inductive systems that are cheaper. Engine start is a non event (especially
in very cold weather (below zero here in wisconsin). I have found that Nipon
Denso
X27GPRU spark plugs work the best. Also use MSD racing
wire for your harness. No shield is necessary and it will outlast economy
wire used by most auto shops. When you make up your harness, test each wire
before installation, it must have 20 or better ohms per foot.
Good luck with your project. Note: MSD wire etc. is available at most
speed shops. local or mail order.
Dick Martin
RV8 N233M
the fast one
> I have both lightspeed plasma 3 no mags two batteries one for the
> avionics and one for the ignition. I guess the choice is a personel one. I
> think there is arguments for and against but my research with friends who
> have electronic other love the smooth running and better fuel burn. The
> system will run down to 4.5 v so probably will run out of fuel before
> battery. A matter of opinion.
>
> Cheers
>
> Aussie Hugh
>
> Regards
>
> Hugh
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On 22/11/2010, at 7:50 AM, Heyden Thomas wrote:
>
> I really appreciate the comments on the canopy, thank you for all that
> responded, it has been very helpful.
>
> Another issue that I would appreciate some commentary on is ignition
> systems. I'm plannng to go with a conventional impluse mag on the left and
> electronic on the right. Any comments or recommendations would be
> appreciated.
>
> Vmax
>
> *
> *
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Re: Ignition systems |
| From: | Tom V <vmax737(at)hotmail.com> |
What type of batteries do you use?
Thanks much for the info
Vmax
Sent from my iPhone
On Nov 22=2C 2010=2C at 9:05=2C Richard Martin
wrote:
> Ditto to Aussie Hugh.
> I have 2000 plus hours on my dual lightspeed ignition systems on my RV8.
I have on of the first systems and am pleased. I uses the dual battery sy
stem also because it gives redundency in the unlikely event that both the a
lternnator and one battery failed. I used the large aircraft battery as pr
imary and a smallbattery wired as a standby. The engine will run approx. 3
hours on the small standby battery in the event that the primary system fa
iled.
> The major advantage of the Lightspeed system is that it is a full capacit
ance discharge (40 plus thousand volt) versus a low discharge on the induc
tive systems that are cheaper. Engine start is a non event (especially in
very cold weather (below zero here in wisconsin). I have found that Nipon D
enso
> X27GPRU spark plugs work the best. Also use MSD racing wire for your har
ness. No shield is necessary and it will outlast economy wire used by most
auto shops. When you make up your harness=2C test each wire before install
ation=2C it must have 20 or better ohms per foot.
> Good luck with your project. Note: MSD wire etc. is available at most s
peed shops. local or mail order.
> Dick Martin
> RV8 N233M
> the fast one
> I have both lightspeed plasma 3 no mags two batteries one for the avionic
s and one for the ignition. I guess the choice is a personel one. I think t
here is arguments for and against but my research with friends who have ele
ctronic other love the smooth running and better fuel burn. The system will
run down to 4.5 v so probably will run out of fuel before battery. A matte
r of opinion.
>
> Cheers
>
> Aussie Hugh
>
> Regards
>
> Hugh
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On 22/11/2010=2C at 7:50 AM=2C Heyden Thomas wrote:
>
>> I really appreciate the comments on the canopy=2C thank you for all that
responded=2C it has been very helpful.
>>
>> Another issue that I would appreciate some commentary on is ignition sys
tems. I'm plannng to go with a conventional impluse mag on the left and el
ectronic on the right. Any comments or recommendations would be appreciate
d.
>>
>> Vmax
>>
>>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Ignition systems |
| From: | Hugh Ragg <hragg(at)me.com> |
Odysey
Regards
Hugh
Sent from my iPhone
On 23/11/2010, at 2:31 AM, Tom V wrote:
> What type of batteries do you use?
>
> Thanks much for the info
>
> Vmax
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Nov 22, 2010, at 9:05, Richard Martin wrote:
>
>> Ditto to Aussie Hugh.
>> I have 2000 plus hours on my dual lightspeed ignition systems on my RV8. I
have on of the first systems and am pleased. I uses the dual battery system also
because it gives redundency in the unlikely event that both the alternnator
and one battery failed. I used the large aircraft battery as primary and a
smallbattery wired as a standby. The engine will run approx. 3 hours on the small
standby battery in the event that the primary system failed.
>> The major advantage of the Lightspeed system is that it is a full capacitance
discharge (40 plus thousand volt) versus a low discharge on the inductive systems
that are cheaper. Engine start is a non event (especially in very cold
weather (below zero here in wisconsin). I have found that Nipon Denso
>> X27GPRU spark plugs work the best. Also use MSD racing wire for your harness.
No shield is necessary and it will outlast economy wire used by most auto
shops. When you make up your harness, test each wire before installation, it must
have 20 or better ohms per foot.
>> Good luck with your project. Note: MSD wire etc. is available at most speed
shops. local or mail order.
>> Dick Martin
>> RV8 N233M
>> the fast one
>> I have both lightspeed plasma 3 no mags two batteries one for the avionics and
one for the ignition. I guess the choice is a personel one. I think there is
arguments for and against but my research with friends who have electronic other
love the smooth running and better fuel burn. The system will run down to
4.5 v so probably will run out of fuel before battery. A matter of opinion.
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> Aussie Hugh
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Hugh
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On 22/11/2010, at 7:50 AM, Heyden Thomas wrote:
>>
>>> I really appreciate the comments on the canopy, thank you for all that responded,
it has been very helpful.
>>>
>>> Another issue that I would appreciate some commentary on is ignition systems.
I'm plannng to go with a conventional impluse mag on the left and electronic
on the right. Any comments or recommendations would be appreciated.
>>>
>>> Vmax
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
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>> ">www.buildersbooks.com
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>
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Test Flight Video - Part 2 - Landing... |
The video in the cockpit and on the ground was shot with Sony HDR-CX550v HD camcorders ( www.sonystyle.com/product/en/hdrcx550v ). The audio was captured with the camcorder using its Audio Line Level input plugged into the "rear passenger 1 headphone output" (not the co-pilot output which is connected to the RV-8's rear passenger headphones) from the PS Engineering 3000 intercom though a homemade impedance matching circuit. The PS3000 mixes the Comm/Intercom/Music nicely and Music audio pull-down during Comm/Intercom is being done by a combination of the PS3000 and the auto-gain control on the camcorder. I installed a 1/8" stereo jack in the backseat area on the right side (see attached pictures). If I were going to do it again I would definitely go with a pair of RCA-style line-level bulkhead jacks instead of the 1/8" stereo jack. I've had some trouble with the right-channel cutting in and out because of the jack/vibration. RCA's would hold much tighter.
-
Matt Dralle
RV-8 #82880 N998RV
http://www.mattsrv8.com - Matt's RV-8 Construction Log
http://www.youtube.com/MattsRV8 - Matt's RV-8 HDTV YouTube Channel
Status: 124+ Hours TTSN - The Fun Never Stops...
At 07:09 AM 11/22/2010 Monday, you wrote:
>Matt, what kind of a recorder are you using to capture the audio?
>Thanks for feedback.
>Dick Seiders
>
>On Sun, Nov 21, 2010 at 3:23 PM, Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> wrote:
>
>This Part II of my RV-8 Test Flight documents slow flight testing and landing
configuration testing, a couple more circuits around the airport, landing, taxi
back, and returning to the hangar.
>
>Note that on the taxi back, the windsock is almost a direct crosswind at about
10 knots as I recall. Makes me even more proud of that first landing, and the
fact that I put it right down on the numbers!
>
>Be sure to check out Part I of this video which documents the startup, taxi out,
take off, and first circuit around the field.
>
>This Video is in full 1080p HDTV, so be sure to select a viewing resolution that
works with your computer and is higher than the standard 360p default. At
least the 760p mode, for example. And don't forget to try full-screen mode for
the most impact!
>
> <http://www.youtube.com/user/MattsRV8#p/u/1/2b4C8fb-XAc>http://www.youtube.com/user/MattsRV8#p/u/1/2b4C8fb-XAc
>
>Enjoy,
>
>Matt
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Brian Huffaker <bifft(at)xmission.com> |
| Subject: | Re: RV8-List: Re: Test Flight Video - Part 2 - Landing... |
On Mon, 22 Nov 2010, Matt Dralle wrote:
>
> The video in the cockpit and on the ground was shot with Sony
>HDR-CX550v HD camcorders ( www.sonystyle.com/product/en/hdrcx550v ). The
>audio was captured with the camcorder using its Audio Line Level input
>plugged into the "rear passenger 1 headphone output" (not the co-pilot
>output which is connected to the RV-8's rear passenger headphones) from
>the PS Engineering 3000 intercom though a homemade impedance matching
>circuit. The PS3000 mixes the Comm/Intercom/Music nicely and Music audio
Can you give some hints as to how to make the impedance matching
circuit? I'm planning on setting up something similar in my-8, maybe also
in the Starduster.
Brian Huffaker, DSWL (bifft(at)xmission.com)
RV-8A 80091 mounting flaps
1/4 Starduster II N23UT flying
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Just A Few More Days To Make Your List Contribution... |
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| Subject: | What Are You Thankful For...? |
Dear Listers,
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________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Re: Ignition systems |
| From: | Richard Martin <martinaerodrome(at)gmail.com> |
I use Odessey batteries, one full size for main power and one small as a
backup for my dual lightspeed ignition. They seem to last longer with no
maintenance than lead acid aircraft batteries. Also, they can be purchased
at discount prices at most auto stores. The small one will operate the
engine for 3 plus hours in the event of alternator failure in flight.
Dick Martin
RV8 N233M
the fast one
On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 10:31 AM, Tom V wrote:
> What type of batteries do you use?
>
> Thanks much for the info
>
> Vmax
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Nov 22, 2010, at 9:05, Richard Martin
> wrote:
>
> Ditto to Aussie Hugh.
> I have 2000 plus hours on my dual lightspeed ignition systems on my RV8. I
> have on of the first systems and am pleased. I uses the dual battery system
> also because it gives redundency in the unlikely event that both the
> alternnator and one battery failed. I used the large aircraft battery as
> primary and a smallbattery wired as a standby. The engine will run approx.
> 3 hours on the small standby battery in the event that the primary system
> failed.
> The major advantage of the Lightspeed system is that it is a full
> capacitance discharge (40 plus thousand volt) versus a low discharge on the
> inductive systems that are cheaper. Engine start is a non event (especially
> in very cold weather (below zero here in wisconsin). I have found that Nipon
> Denso
> X27GPRU spark plugs work the best. Also use MSD racing
> wire for your harness. No shield is necessary and it will outlast economy
> wire used by most auto shops. When you make up your harness, test each wire
> before installation, it must have 20 or better ohms per foot.
> Good luck with your project. Note: MSD wire etc. is available at most
> speed shops. local or mail order.
> Dick Martin
> RV8 N233M
> the fast one
>
>> I have both lightspeed plasma 3 no mags two batteries one for the
>> avionics and one for the ignition. I guess the choice is a personel one. I
>> think there is arguments for and against but my research with friends who
>> have electronic other love the smooth running and better fuel burn. The
>> system will run down to 4.5 v so probably will run out of fuel before
>> battery. A matter of opinion.
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> Aussie Hugh
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Hugh
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On 22/11/2010, at 7:50 AM, Heyden Thomas wrote:
>>
>> I really appreciate the comments on the canopy, thank you for all that
>> responded, it has been very helpful.
>>
>> Another issue that I would appreciate some commentary on is ignition
>> systems. I'm plannng to go with a conventional impluse mag on the left and
>> electronic on the right. Any comments or recommendations would be
>> appreciated.
>>
>> Vmax
>>
>> *
>> *
>>
>>
> *
>
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| Subject: | Re: RV-7 slider canopy binding |
| From: | Richard Martin <martinaerodrome(at)gmail.com> |
I have found on my RV8 canopies (2000 hours 3rd canopy) that it is necessar
y
to drill holes for fasteners (I use screws #6/32 and drill and tap canopy
rails) The holes in the plexiglass canopy must be oversize so the canopy
can move around the fastener. My RV8 canopy will elongate as much as 3/16
inch from winter temps of 0 to 35 degrees to summer temps of 70 to 90
degrees.
Good Luck
Dick Martin
RV8 N233M
the fast one
On Sat, Nov 20, 2010 at 8:10 PM, Heyden Thomas wrote:
> I=92ve drill the canopy to the frame on my RV-7 slider and have encounte
red
> the usual problem, it binds on the rollers.
>
>
> After taking great pains and several hours to adjust the canopy frame as
> close to the specs as I could, the frame moved very smoothly on the canop
y
> rails. After drilling the canopy to the frame and putting it back on the
> canopy rail it binds. The frame is being pulled outward by the canopy.
> When I move the edges of the canopy inward it moves freely again.
>
>
> Any suggestions on how to fix it without cracking the canopy?
>
>
> Thanks for any assistance
>
>
> Vmax
>
>
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>
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| Subject: | No "Black Friday" For List Fund Raiser... |
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Airfoil Drag Video... |
This is a REALLY interesting video about drag. I had no idea...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ftq8jTQ8ANE
Matt
-
Matt Dralle
RV-8 #82880 N998RV
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http://www.youtube.com/MattsRV8 - Matt's RV-8 HDTV YouTube Channel
Status: 132+ Hours TTSN - The Fun Never Stops...
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| From: | "Ralph Finch" <ralphmariafinch(at)gmail.com> |
| Subject: | RE: RV-List: Airfoil Drag Video... |
Not repeatable therefore not real useful for comparison. The guy should
rotate the airfoils to minimum drag each time, otherwise, he doesn't know if
they are in comparable positions. It's also a shame he didn't replace the
airfoil with an equal-flow-area rectangular shape. As a result he produces
confusing and misleading results, inferring that a round shape has more drag
than a rectangular shape!
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Matt Dralle
Sent: Monday, January 10, 2011 9:29 AM
rv10-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: RV-List: Airfoil Drag Video...
--> RV-List message posted by: Matt Dralle
This is a REALLY interesting video about drag. I had no idea...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ftq8jTQ8ANE
Matt
-
Matt Dralle
RV-8 #82880 N998RV
http://www.mattsrv8.com - Matt's RV-8 Construction Log
http://www.youtube.com/MattsRV8 - Matt's RV-8 HDTV YouTube Channel
Status: 132+ Hours TTSN - The Fun Never Stops...
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| From: | "Paul Pflimlin" <pablo(at)phonewave.net> |
| Subject: | Re: RE: RV-List: Airfoil Drag Video... |
Note: Test in fluid dynamics was state of art 68 years ago.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ralph Finch" <ralphmariafinch(at)gmail.com>
;
Sent: Monday, January 10, 2011 11:11 AM
Subject: RV7-List: RE: RV-List: Airfoil Drag Video...
>
> Not repeatable therefore not real useful for comparison. The guy should
> rotate the airfoils to minimum drag each time, otherwise, he doesn't know
> if
> they are in comparable positions. It's also a shame he didn't replace the
> airfoil with an equal-flow-area rectangular shape. As a result he produces
> confusing and misleading results, inferring that a round shape has more
> drag
> than a rectangular shape!
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv-list-server(at)matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Matt Dralle
> Sent: Monday, January 10, 2011 9:29 AM
> To: rv-list(at)matronics.com; rv7-list(at)matronics.com; rv8-list(at)matronics.com;
> rv10-list(at)matronics.com
> Subject: RV-List: Airfoil Drag Video...
>
> --> RV-List message posted by: Matt Dralle
>
> This is a REALLY interesting video about drag. I had no idea...
>
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ftq8jTQ8ANE
>
> Matt
>
> -
> Matt Dralle
> RV-8 #82880 N998RV
> http://www.mattsrv8.com - Matt's RV-8 Construction Log
> http://www.youtube.com/MattsRV8 - Matt's RV-8 HDTV YouTube Channel
> Status: 132+ Hours TTSN - The Fun Never Stops...
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: RE: RV-List: Airfoil Drag Video... |
| From: | Allen Murray <allenmurray(at)mindspring.com> |
Fabulous! Thanks.
Allen Murray
On Jan 10, 2011, at 2:11 PM, Ralph Finch wrote:
>
> Not repeatable therefore not real useful for comparison. The guy should
> rotate the airfoils to minimum drag each time, otherwise, he doesn't know if
> they are in comparable positions. It's also a shame he didn't replace the
> airfoil with an equal-flow-area rectangular shape. As a result he produces
> confusing and misleading results, inferring that a round shape has more drag
> than a rectangular shape!
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv-list-server(at)matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Matt Dralle
> Sent: Monday, January 10, 2011 9:29 AM
> To: rv-list(at)matronics.com; rv7-list(at)matronics.com; rv8-list(at)matronics.com;
> rv10-list(at)matronics.com
> Subject: RV-List: Airfoil Drag Video...
>
> --> RV-List message posted by: Matt Dralle
>
> This is a REALLY interesting video about drag. I had no idea...
>
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ftq8jTQ8ANE
>
> Matt
>
> -
> Matt Dralle
> RV-8 #82880 N998RV
> http://www.mattsrv8.com - Matt's RV-8 Construction Log
> http://www.youtube.com/MattsRV8 - Matt's RV-8 HDTV YouTube Channel
> Status: 132+ Hours TTSN - The Fun Never Stops...
>
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: RV7-List Digest: 0 Msgs - 01/29/11 |
| From: | Allen Murray <allenmurray(at)mindspring.com> |
Please remove my name from the RV-7 lists.
Thanks.
Allen Murray
allenmurray(at)mindspring.com
On Jan 30, 2011, at 2:59 AM, RV7-List Digest Server wrote:
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| Subject: | Rivet Squeezer for sale |
| From: | "Jdaniel343" <Jdaniel343(at)bresnan.net> |
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| From: | Robin Marks <robin(at)PaintTheWeb.com> |
| Subject: | Replacement Prop Governor Suggestion |
Dear list,
We are very close to flying the 8A and have run our 400 TTSOH
engine with new Hartzell BA Prop. Everything runs great with the exception
of the Prop Governor direction. The unit came off a Lake Amphibian
LA-4-200 with
a different prop. Unfortunately it seems to work backwards, the engine
smoothes out and rpm increases when you pull the lever back. We believe we
have the wrong Gov and it is time for a replacement.
Here are the specifics:
Prop: New Hartzell, HC-C2YR-1BFP/F7497
Engine: IO-360-AIB 200 Hp
Hartzell Prop. Gov: The alum. tag is hard to read. Model F-6-5 **
Prior Aircraft: Lake LA-4-200 Ser. No. 465
My question; is there a preferred Prop Governor on the market
for this prop & engine combination? I read on the Hartzell site the
recommended Hartzell governor is the S-1-10. Any comments or
recommendations?
Thanks,
Robin
RV-4 Sold
RV-6A Sold
RV-10 210 Hours
RV-8A Soon
** Model F-6-5 I'm sure about the "F" and the "6", pretty sure about the
"5", it could have another digit after the 5, can't tell. Ser. no.
-7310T, the dash could be an "A" or "?-"
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| From: | Walt Ray <falconav04(at)yahoo.com> |
| Subject: | Re: RV7-List Digest: 1 Msgs - 02/22/11 |
Ran into the same problem, take your gov. to a prop shop and with the engin
e model they can spec. out the configuration to suit your engine. It probab
ly needs a different pilot valve.Would be cheaper than a new gov. - -
- Walt....
--- On Wed, 2/23/11, RV7-List Digest Server wrote:
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Subject: RV7-List Digest: 1 Msgs - 02/22/11
Date: Wednesday, February 23, 2011, 1:58 AM
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arks)
________________________________- Message 1- __________________________
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From: Robin Marks <robin(at)PaintTheWeb.com>
Subject: RV7-List: Replacement Prop Governor Suggestion
Dear list,
- - - - - - We are very close to flying the 8A and have run our
400 TTSOH
engine with new Hartzell BA Prop. Everything runs great with the exception
of the Prop Governor direction. The unit came off a Lake Amphibian
LA-4-200 with
a different prop. Unfortunately it seems to work backwards, the engine
smoothes out and rpm increases when you pull the lever back. We believe we
have the wrong Gov and it is time for a replacement.
- - - - - - Here are the specifics:
Prop:- - - - - - - - - - - - - - New Hartzell,
HC-C2YR-1BFP/F7497
Engine:- - - - - - - - - - - ---IO-360-AIB 200
Hp
Hartzell Prop. Gov:- - ---The alum. tag is hard to read.- Model
F-6-5---**
Prior Aircraft:- - - - - - - - Lake LA-4-200- Ser. No. 46
5
- - - - - - My question; is there a preferred Prop Governor on
the market
for this prop & engine combination? I read on the Hartzell site the
recommended Hartzell governor is the S-1-10. Any comments or
recommendations?
Thanks,
Robin
RV-4- - Sold
RV-6A- Sold
RV-10---210 Hours
RV-8A- Soon
** Model F-6-5- I'm sure about the "F" and the "6",- pretty sure about
the
"5", it could have another digit after the 5, can't tell.- Ser. no.
-7310T,- the dash could be an "A" or "?-"
le, List Admin.
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| Subject: | FS: Vetterman Exhaust |
| From: | "George, Neal E Capt USAF ACC 505 TRS/DOJ" <Neal.George(at)hurlburt.af.mil> |
Listers -
I have a new Vetterman Crossover exhaust for RV-7 with Superior IO-360 &
Cold Air Induction that I won't be using.
Includes gaskets and Robbin's Wings heat muff.
$900, shipped CONUS.
Neal
850-218-4838
Capt Neal George
505TRS/DOJ
Hurlburt Field, FL 32544
850-884-7165
DSN 579
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Robin Marks <robin(at)PaintTheWeb.com> |
| Subject: | Replacement Prop Governor Suggestion - Resolved |
It turns out the prop governor was not going to work for my combination. I
knew I should have made a RV8 Pusher! On the advice of Charlie we contacted
Southwest Aero for what turned out to be Extremely Friendly & knowledgeable
information. Great recommendation Charlie! Ultimately I went with a new Prop
Governor from Vans and will be selling back my current governor for about
1/4th the new unit purchase price. Could be worse. I am happy with this
solution even though it was a bit pricey but I have a shiny new accessory
that should give me years of service.
Thanks everyone,
Robin
*From:* owner-rv8-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:
owner-rv8-list-server(at)matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Robin Marks
*Sent:* Tuesday, February 22, 2011 1:47 PM
*To:* rv8-list(at)matronics.com; rv-list(at)matronics.com; rv7-list(at)matronics.com
*Subject:* RV8-List: Replacement Prop Governor Suggestion
Dear list,
We are very close to flying the 8A and have run our 400 TTSOH
engine with new Hartzell BA Prop. Everything runs great with the exception
of the Prop Governor direction. The unit came off a Lake Amphibian LA-4-200
with a different prop. Unfortunately it seems to work backwards, the engine
smoothes out and rpm increases when you pull the lever back. We believe we
have the wrong Gov and it is time for a replacement.
Here are the specifics:
Prop: New Hartzell, HC-C2YR-1BFP/F7497
Engine: IO-360-AIB 200 Hp
Hartzell Prop. Gov: The alum. tag is hard to read. Model F-6-5 **
Prior Aircraft: Lake LA-4-200 Ser. No. 465
My question; is there a preferred Prop Governor on the market
for this prop & engine combination? I read on the Hartzell site the
recommended Hartzell governor is the S-1-10. Any comments or
recommendations?
Thanks,
Robin
RV-4 Sold
RV-6A Sold
RV-10 210 Hours
RV-8A Soon
** Model F-6-5 I'm sure about the "F" and the "6", pretty sure about the
"5", it could have another digit after the 5, can't tell. Ser. no.
-7310T, the dash could be an "A" or "?-"
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| From: | Bob Peck <bobpeck2000(at)yahoo.com> |
| Subject: | Re: FS: Vetterman Exhaust |
Neal - Is that exhaust for an angle valve IO-360 or Parallel valve?=0A=0AI
am building a RV-7A with an IO 375 (parallel valve) engine from aerosport
=0APower.=0A=0ABob Peck=0Aretired UPS Captain=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A______
__________________________=0AFrom: "George, Neal E Capt USAF ACC 505 TRS/DO
J" =0ATo: rv7-list(at)matronics.com=0ASent: Wed,
February 23, 2011 9:54:09 AM=0ASubject: RV7-List: FS: Vetterman Exhaust=0A
=0A=0AListers =93 =0A =0AI have a new Vetterman Crossover exhaust for
RV-7 with Superior IO-360 & Cold =0AAir Induction that I won=99t be
using.=0AIncludes gaskets and Robbin=99s Wings heat muff.=0A =0A$900,
shipped CONUS.=0A =0ANeal=0A850-218-4838=0A =0ACapt Neal George=0A505TRS/D
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| From: | Bob Peck <bobpeck2000(at)yahoo.com> |
| Subject: | Re: FS: Vetterman Exhaust |
Neal: Should have looked closer, I spent some time as a 1LT at Hurlburt che
cking =0Aout in O-2s enroute to VietNam in 68.=0A=0ABob Peck=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A
________________________________=0AFrom: "George, Neal E Capt USAF ACC 505
TRS/DOJ" =0ATo: rv7-list(at)matronics.com=0ASent:
Wed, February 23, 2011 9:54:09 AM=0ASubject: RV7-List: FS: Vetterman Exha
ust=0A=0A=0AListers =93 =0A =0AI have a new Vetterman Crossover exhau
st for RV-7 with Superior IO-360 & Cold =0AAir Induction that I won
=99t be using.=0AIncludes gaskets and Robbin=99s Wings heat muff.=0A
=0A$900, shipped CONUS.=0A =0ANeal=0A850-218-4838=0A =0ACapt Neal George=0A
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| From: | Neal George <n8zg(at)att.net> |
| Subject: | Re: FS: Vetterman Exhaust |
Bob -
Thanks for the interest, but it's sold.
Neal George
Sent from my iPhone
On Feb 23, 2011, at 9:02 PM, Bob Peck wrote:
> Neal - Is that exhaust for an angle valve IO-360 or Parallel valve?
>
> I am building a RV-7A with an IO 375 (parallel valve) engine from aerospor
t Power.
>
> Bob Peck
> retired UPS Captain
>
>
>
>
> From: "George, Neal E Capt USAF ACC 505 TRS/DOJ" <Neal.George(at)hurlburt.af.
mil>
> To: rv7-list(at)matronics.com
> Sent: Wed, February 23, 2011 9:54:09 AM
> Subject: RV7-List: FS: Vetterman Exhaust
>
> Listers =93
>
> I have a new Vetterman Crossover exhaust for RV-7 with Superior IO-360 & C
old Air Induction that I won=99t be using.
> Includes gaskets and Robbin=99s Wings heat muff.
>
> $900, shipped CONUS.
>
> Neal
> 850-218-4838
>
> Capt Neal George
> 505TRS/DOJ
> Hurlburt Field, FL 32544
> 850-884-7165
> DSN 579
>
>
>
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| From: | Ken Pilot <planejockey_2000(at)yahoo.com> |
| Subject: | RV-7A project For Sale |
RV-7A Project For sale Fuselage wings empennage complete.Sliding canopy also complete,
ready for engine and avionics. 28,500 O.B.O. Contact Ken 510-719-9923
or e-mail planejockey_2000(at)yahoo.com
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Konrad/Conny <klwerner(at)comcast.net> |
Is this list pretty much dead? Haven't seen any posts here since I
rejoined a few days ago after a few years hiatus...
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| Subject: | Re: Anyone here? |
| From: | Ronald Walker <n520tx(at)gmail.com> |
This list is really a targeted subset of all the builders out there - I
for one subscribe to the Lycoming list for engines, RV7 and RV10 list
for those specific items, Matronics list for anything electrical related
and then there's the vast repository over at VAF (Douggies site). Add to
that the plethora of Yahoo based groups out there ...
So just because this one (7) list might be low volume, it doesn't mean
that we've all disappeared. I'm pretty sure most of us are still
breathing ... ;o)
-ron
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Konrad/Conny <klwerner(at)comcast.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Anyone here? |
I noticed that there is still life behind the silence.
On Mar 8, 2011, at 1:01 PM, Ronald Walker wrote:
>
> This list is really a targeted subset of all the builders out there
> - I
> for one subscribe to the Lycoming list for engines, RV7 and RV10 list
> for those specific items, Matronics list for anything electrical
> related
> and then there's the vast repository over at VAF (Douggies site).
> Add to
> that the plethora of Yahoo based groups out there ...
>
> So just because this one (7) list might be low volume, it doesn't mean
> that we've all disappeared. I'm pretty sure most of us are still
> breathing ... ;o)
>
> -ron
>
>
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
I was browsing the P-Mag web site this week. They look pretty cool, but the web
site really makes no mention of whether there's any real performance/economy
benefit to them. Does anyone have any real world experience along these lines?
I've got two standard Slick mags on my IO-390. If I dumped $2200 on a pair of
P-Mags, would I really notice any difference? The IO-390 already starts and runs
great. More power and better economy are always welcome, though...
Matt Dralle
RV-8 #82880 N998RV
http://www.mattsrv8.com - Matt's RV-8 Construction Log
http://www.youtube.com/MattsRV8 - Matt's RV-8 HDTV YouTube Channel
Status: 150+ Hours TTSN - Paint Job Is All That's Left To Do...
At 10:36 AM 3/9/2011 Wednesday, you wrote:
>Do they even still make the E-mag, the non self powered version?
>
>I wonder what the performance differences are between E/P-Mags and the competing
LSE- Systems in terms of additional power output as well as fuel savings?
>
>I wonder if anyone has ever run a single LSE in conjunction with not a Magneto,
but rather an E/P-Mag for two truly redundant electronic ignitions?
>
>Hmm, I wonder how they would work together, i.e. if both competing EI systems
would be mixed on one engine??? Hmm...?
>
>Konrad
>
>
>On Mar 9, 2011, at 10:59 AM, Robin Marks wrote:
>
>>I think the early problems are behind them. I have one on my 8A based on some
recommendations of RV pilots I trust that have had no issues in years of use.
I plan to place on eon my -10 when they finally release the 6 cylinder version.
>>Like most systems I prefer diversity so I would never run two PMags but I would
never run two Light speed either.
>>
>>
>>Robin
>>
>>
>>From: <mailto:owner-rv6-list-server(at)matronics.com>owner-rv6-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:<mailto:owner-rv6-list-server(at)matronics.com>owner-rv6-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of <mailto:HCRV6(at)comcast.net>HCRV6(at)comcast.net
>>Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2011 9:45 AM
>>To: rv6-list(at)matronics.com
>>Subject: Re: RV6-List: Anyone here?
>>
>>
>>HI Konrad,
>>
>>Well, the evidence seems to be accumulating that they have. More and more of
them are in use in RV's in my area, KLVK, and so far it looks like they may have
worked through those early problems. I remain somewhat cautious but thinking
about starting with one and see how it goes.
>>
>>Harry Crosby
>>RV-6 N16CX, 805 hours
>>
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: "Konrad/Conny" <<mailto:klwerner(at)comcast.net>klwerner(at)comcast.net>
>>To: rv6-list(at)matronics.com
>>Sent: Tuesday, March 8, 2011 8:25:25 PM
>>Subject: Re: RV6-List: Anyone here?
>>
>>Hi Harry,
>>
>>
>>Talking about P-Mags. Have they ironed out their infancy-/ teething problems
in the few years that I was not paying much attention to it all?
>>
>>
>>Konrad
>>
>>
>>
>>On Mar 8, 2011, at 6:58 PM, HCRV6(at)comcast.net wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>I'm still here. My RV-6 has been flying for six+ years (805 hours and counting)
but I follow several of the lists most of the time and reply if a question
comes up that I can help with.
>>
>>BTW, someone recently posted on one of the lists something about putting together
group purchases of P-Mags. I didn't think I was interested when I saw it
but I am rethinking it. I would appreciate it if anyone could tell me who it
was and how to get in touch with him, Thanks.
>>
>>Harry Crosby
>>RV-6 N16CX, 805 hours
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Ronald Walker <n520tx(at)gmail.com> |
> I was browsing the P-Mag web site this week. They look pretty cool, but the
web site really makes no mention of whether there's any real performance/economy
benefit to them. Does anyone have any real world experience along these lines?
>
> I've got two standard Slick mags on my IO-390. If I dumped $2200 on a pair of
P-Mags, would I really notice any difference? The IO-390 already starts and
runs great. More power and better economy are always welcome, though...
>
> Matt Dralle
> RV-8 #82880 N998RV
I ran my RV7a for 170hrs on slick mags. I replaced them at that time
with dual pMags and auto plugs. I noticed a difference right away.
Starting was quicker - after 2 blades every single time, cruise was
smoother and fuel economy improved (more fuel burned in the cylinder due
to hotter spark/larger plug gap).
The engine is a stock O-360, so how it compares with and IO-390, would
just be an assumption.
I'm enough impressed with them that I am planning on installing their 6
cyl version in my 540/RV10.
-ron
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| From: | Konrad/Conny <klwerner(at)comcast.net> |
| Subject: | -6,-7,-8 Empennages interchangeable? |
Hi all,
Are the Empennages for the -6, -7 & -8 totally identical and are
therefore interchangeable from one model to the other??? Just
wondering..., so anyone know for sure?
Thank you, Konrad
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Re: -6,-7,-8 Empennages interchangeable? |
At 01:23 PM 3/14/2011 Monday, Konrad/Conny wrote:
>--> RV6-List message posted by: Konrad/Conny
>
>Hi all,
>
>Are the Empennages for the -6, -7 & -8 totally identical and are
>therefore interchangeable from one model to the other??? Just
>wondering..., so anyone know for sure?
>
>Thank you, Konrad
The -7 and -8 have the same Empennage, but the -6 has a different one. The -4
and -6 Empennages are much smaller than on the -7 and -8. To my eye, the 4/6
fin-rudder is a little too small, and the 7/8 fin-rudder is a little too big.
That being said, with the IO-390 on the -8, I'm often wishing I had more rudder
authority during landing. So, it may be visually too big on the 7/8 already,
but it could be bigger! :-)
-
Matt Dralle
RV-8 #82880 N998RV
http://www.mattsrv8.com - Matt's RV-8 Construction Log
http://www.youtube.com/MattsRV8 - Matt's RV-8 HDTV YouTube Channel
Status: 150+ Hours TTSN - Paint Job Is All That's Left To Do...
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| Subject: | Re: RV8-List: Re: -6,-7,-8 Empennages interchangeable? |
| From: | Alan Searle <alan(at)airweigh.com.au> |
The -7 & -8 stabilisers are different. The -7 fuselage is wider at the leading
edge position requiring different skins.
Cheers ........ Alan.
On 15/03/2011, at 7:34 AM, Matt Dralle wrote:
> --> RV8-List message posted by: Matt Dralle
>
> At 01:23 PM 3/14/2011 Monday, Konrad/Conny wrote:
>> --> RV6-List message posted by: Konrad/Conny
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Are the Empennages for the -6, -7 & -8 totally identical and are
>> therefore interchangeable from one model to the other??? Just
>> wondering..., so anyone know for sure?
>>
>> Thank you, Konrad
>
> The -7 and -8 have the same Empennage, but the -6 has a different one. The -4
and -6 Empennages are much smaller than on the -7 and -8. To my eye, the 4/6
fin-rudder is a little too small, and the 7/8 fin-rudder is a little too big.
That being said, with the IO-390 on the -8, I'm often wishing I had more rudder
authority during landing. So, it may be visually too big on the 7/8 already,
but it could be bigger! :-)
>
>
> -
> Matt Dralle
> RV-8 #82880 N998RV
> http://www.mattsrv8.com - Matt's RV-8 Construction Log
> http://www.youtube.com/MattsRV8 - Matt's RV-8 HDTV YouTube Channel
> Status: 150+ Hours TTSN - Paint Job Is All That's Left To Do...
>
>
>
>
>
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| From: | Konrad/Conny <klwerner(at)comcast.net> |
| Subject: | Re: -6,-7,-8 Empennages interchangeable? |
Hi all,
Aren't the various fuselage width's at the horizontal stabilizer
area-, as well as the attach points themselves for the horizontal stab
different between the -6, -7, -8?
There is someone marketing a finished empennage on Barnstormers,
saying "...it can be used on either the 6, 7, 8... and it made no
sense to me / I was not sure on that!
Here is what he said to me in an email: "The empennage can be used on
any of Van's aircraft models of 6, 7, or 8 : or 6a,7a or 8a.
Charlie" Is he correct in that statement?
On the other hand, I do have a "spare" built / late version -6
Empennage (with tall, counterbalanced rudder), so I wondered if it
would work for the -7 or -8 guys as well???
Anyone need one, either with or without a nearly virgin Wing kit of
the pre-drilled kind, maybe even match drilled? The spars are
assembled already!
Cheers, Konrad
On Mar 14, 2011, at 9:14 PM, Jerry Springer wrote:
> Some of you might remember when a few years ago I retro fit a RV-8
> emp to my RV-6. Was pretty simple to do just had to back mark new
> verticle spar to
> match the hole in fuselage bulkhead. Also had to redo the tail
> fairing to make it fit.
>
> Jerry
>
> rv6n(at)optonline.net wrote:
>> I can tell you that I have the 7's VS and rudder on my 6 and I
>> think the HS and elevators are also from the 7's configuration. I
>> started my build in 1999 when the 6 was beginning to be phased
>> out. I ordered the QB kit and the empanage was not the original
>> 6's configuration, both the rudder and the elevators are counter
>> balanced and the VS and rudder are much larger. I am thankful for
>> the larger set.
>> Bob Bales
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Konrad/Conny Date: Monday, March 14, 2011 4:31 pm
>> Subject: RV6-List: -6,-7,-8 Empennages interchangeable?
>> To: rv6-list(at)matronics.com, rv7-list(at)matronics.com, rv8-list(at)matronics.com
>>
>> > --> RV6-List message posted by: Konrad/Conny >
>> > Hi all,
>> >
>> > Are the Empennages for the -6, -7 & -8 totally identical and are
>> >
>> > therefore interchangeable from one model to the other??? Just
>> > wondering..., so anyone know for sure?
>> >
>> > Thank you, Konrad
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | RV-8 Insurance... |
I've been shopping for a new year of insurance on the RV-8 (current policy is up
on 3/20) and got quotes from Avemco, AOPA, and the EAA (Falcon). The quotes
from the AOPA and EAA were close, although the AOPA came in $500 cheaper than
the EAA's this year. But here was the shocker. Avemco's quote was 2.3 times
higher than the AOPA's quote! I called Avemco to make sure that they just hadn't
done something wrong. It was right. That's just crazy. Apparently Avemco
doesn't really want to write Experimental polices.
Anyway, thought I'd share my experiences.
-
Matt Dralle
RV-8 #82880 N998RV
http://www.mattsrv8.com - Matt's RV-8 Construction Log
http://www.youtube.com/MattsRV8 - Matt's RV-8 HDTV YouTube Channel
Status: 150+ Hours TTSN - Paint Job Is All That's Left To Do...
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Re: RV-8 Insurance... |
Yeah, you can't beat EAA/Falcon for the first year because they will cover the
Test Flight and the First Ten Hours. Avemco made a point of the fact that they
didn't cover either. Okay, I get that, but a year later and with 153 hours
on the RV-8, 153 hours in my logbook in type, and with no incidents, I would have
expected a significant drop. Falcon only came down $100 from last year.
Avemco when UP by $2k.
-
Matt Dralle
RV-8 #82880 N998RV
http://www.mattsrv8.com - Matt's RV-8 Construction Log
http://www.youtube.com/MattsRV8 - Matt's RV-8 HDTV YouTube Channel
Status: 150+ Hours TTSN - Paint Job Is All That's Left To Do...
At 03:50 AM 3/19/2011 Saturday, you wrote:
>Matt,
>
>I had a similar experience . . . when I asked the agent she got kind of snippy
with me and told me thats what they needed to cover their expenses? Not when
everyone else can do it for less!
>
>Mines for first flight and in type experience becomes an issue and Avemco had
the most liberal restrictions there follow by EAA. Im waiting on some paperwork
and the airworthiness inspection . . . I believe Im going to go with EAA (Falcon).
>
>Regards,
>Bob Christensen N83RC . . . still waiting!
>
>From: <mailto:dralle(at)matronics.com>Matt Dralle
>Sent: Friday, March 18, 2011 8:53 PM
>To: rv-list(at)matronics.com ; rv8-list(at)matronics.com ; rv7-list(at)matronics.com
>Subject: RV8-List: RV-8 Insurance...
>
>--> RV8-List message posted by: Matt Dralle
>
>
>I've been shopping for a new year of insurance on the RV-8 (current policy is
up on 3/20) and got quotes from Avemco, AOPA, and the EAA (Falcon). The quotes
from the AOPA and EAA were close, although the AOPA came in $500 cheaper than
the EAA's this year. But here was the shocker. Avemco's quote was 2.3 times
higher than the AOPA's quote! I called Avemco to make sure that they just hadn't
done something wrong. It was right. That's just crazy. Apparently Avemco
doesn't really want to write Experimental polices.
>
>Anyway, thought I'd share my experiences.
>
>
>-
>Matt Dralle
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Carpet Source |
Talk with Luke Doughton luked(at)classic.aero at Classic Aero. They did the upholstery
and carpet on my RV-8 and I couldn't be more pleased. On the carpet for
the RV-8, I did spend a good deal of time laying out exactly what I wanted on
CAD, printing it on a plotter, adjusting the fit, then updating the CAD, etc.
But when I finished that process, I just emailed the CAD file to Luke, and he
converted it into a carpet that literally fits like a glove. I was very impressed.
Quality of the carpet is excellent and Luke makes sure it is fire treated
as well.
http://www.classic.aero
Best upholstery and carpet available for RV's in my opinion.
Matt Dralle
RV-8 #82880 N998RV
http://www.mattsrv8.com - Matt's RV-8 Construction Log
http://www.youtube.com/MattsRV8 - Matt's RV-8 HDTV YouTube Channel
Status: 150+ Hours TTSN - Paint Job Is All That's Left To Do...
At 07:51 AM 3/19/2011 Saturday, you wrote:
>--> RV10-List message posted by: Michael Kraus
>
>Has anyone purchased just a carpet kit for the RV-10? I'm looking for a nice,
drop in kit, something that will cover the tunnel (standard layout) and all floors
including the baggage area. Not just floor mats.
>
>I know I can get carpet from Airtex and do it myself, but I was hoping to find
something alittle more drop in.
>
>Any ideas?
>
>Thanks
>-Mike Kraus
-
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| From: | Jim Brown <acrojim7534(at)yahoo.com> |
| Subject: | Re: RV-8 Insurance... |
Welcome to the world of Aviation Insurance, where nothing makes any sense..
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Canopy Skirt Buzz... |
At 10:25 AM 3/22/2011 Tuesday, you wrote:
>Matt,
>Did you settle on a material that you preferred for deadening the canopy buzz
[on your RV-8]? We are experiencing the same thing but at a very narrow speed
range. Before we reinvent the wheel I figured I would ask.
>
>Thanks,
>Robin
Hi Robin,
Yes, solved mostly. Here the stuff to get:
http://cshyde.thomasnet.com/viewitems/tapes-with-psa/uhmw-tape--black-anti-stat-rubber-adhesive?forward=1
This is black UHMW table with a rubber adhesive (good to 150F). I got the .020"
stuff.
Its not very bendable sideways, so don't try to get the .5" kind and wrap it around
the s-curve in the back. It definitely won't stick for very long.
Get the 6" wide stuff - Part number <http://cshyde.thomasnet.com/viewitems/tapes-with-psa//item/tapes-with-psa/uhmw-tape--black-anti-stat-rubber-adhesive/anti-stat-uhmw-19-20blk-6-5?>19-20BLK-6-5 (5 yards) or 19-20BLK-6-18 (18 yards) - and lay it flat over the skirt on the inside and then trace the contour. Move it up by about .75" and then trace again. Then cut out the piece which should be a perfect fit around the inside edge of the canopy skirt. I forgot to take any pictures of the process! That's so not like me! :-)
I also used the .5" stuff (<http://cshyde.thomasnet.com/viewitems/tapes-with-psa//item/tapes-with-psa/uhmw-tape--black-anti-stat-rubber-adhesive/anti-stat-uhmw-19-20blk-5-5?>19-20BLK-.5-5) for along the straight left and right side of the skirt. Although, I wish I'd used the .75 stuff.
Seems to dampen the vibration and also doesn't mark the paint/metal due to its
low co-efficient of friction. Its basically the same stuff that Van's sells for
the flaps, but much thicker and black. I also like the high-temp rubber adhesive.
We'll see how it holds up over the Summer.
My only complaint is that I wish they made a .040" thick version.
-
Matt Dralle
RV-8 #82880 N998RV
http://www.mattsrv8.com - Matt's RV-8 Construction Log
http://www.youtube.com/MattsRV8 - Matt's RV-8 HDTV YouTube Channel
Status: 153+ Hours TTSN - Paint Job Is All That's Left To Do...
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Re: RV-8 Insurance... |
Here's this year's Insurance Quotes along with the coverage details on my RV-8.
Can you guess which one I went with?
$1m/$100k Liability
$5000-$10000 Medical
$0 Deductible
$150k Hull Ground/Air
153 Hours, Aircraft
153 Hours in Type, Pilot
450 Hours Total, Pilot
242 Hours TW, Pilot
Avemco: $5811
EAA/Falcon: $2975 ($3075 last year included Test & 1st 10 hours)
NationAir/Chartis $2888
AOPA/AIG $2475
-
Matt Dralle
RV-8 #82880 N998RV
http://www.mattsrv8.com - Matt's RV-8 Construction Log
http://www.youtube.com/MattsRV8 - Matt's RV-8 HDTV YouTube Channel
Status: 160+ Hours TTSN - Paint Job Is All That's Left To Do...
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Dave Henderson" <wf-k(at)mindspring.com> |
| Subject: | Re: RV-8 Insurance... |
Good Grief, I paid half that on $100,000 RV-7. I have the same amount of
hours in type and total. I suggest you contact my agent and ask her for a
quote: klehman(at)andreini.com Direct 650-378-4310 No harm in at least asking.
Dave Henderson RV-7
N925LW (Lord Willing)
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv7-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv7-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Matt Dralle
Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2011 5:56 PM
rv10-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: RV7-List: Re: RV-8 Insurance...
Here's this year's Insurance Quotes along with the coverage details on my
RV-8. Can you guess which one I went with?
$1m/$100k Liability
$5000-$10000 Medical
$0 Deductible
$150k Hull Ground/Air
153 Hours, Aircraft
153 Hours in Type, Pilot
450 Hours Total, Pilot
242 Hours TW, Pilot
Avemco: $5811
EAA/Falcon: $2975 ($3075 last year included Test & 1st
10 hours)
NationAir/Chartis $2888
AOPA/AIG $2475
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Matt Dralle
RV-8 #82880 N998RV
http://www.mattsrv8.com - Matt's RV-8 Construction Log
http://www.youtube.com/MattsRV8 - Matt's RV-8 HDTV YouTube Channel
Status: 160+ Hours TTSN - Paint Job Is All That's Left To Do...
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Re: RV-8 Insurance... |
Just to follow up on the insurance information I posted, I got an email from EAA/Falcon
this morning indicating that they had quoted this year's policy based
on last year's flight time numbers (basically 0). They re-quoted on my current
hours (153 TTSN) and their quote came more into line at $2490.00. I just wanted
to set the record straight.
Also, the AOPA coverage for $2475 is really with USAIG (United States Aviation
Insurance Group), which is not the bailout "AIG" (American International Group).
At least I don't think so. Here are their respective web sites:
United Status Aviation Insurance Group
http://www.usau.com/usau.nsf/doc/index
American International Group
http://www.aigcorporate.com/index.html
FYI
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Matt Dralle
RV-8 #82880 N998RV
http://www.mattsrv8.com - Matt's RV-8 Construction Log
http://www.youtube.com/MattsRV8 - Matt's RV-8 HDTV YouTube Channel
Status: 160+ Hours TTSN - Paint Job Is All That's Left To Do...
>--> RV-List message posted by: Matt Dralle
>
>Here's this year's Insurance Quotes along with the coverage details on my RV-8.
Can you guess which one I went with?
>
>$1m/$100k Liability
>$5000-$10000 Medical
>$0 Deductible
>$150k Hull Ground/Air
>
>153 Hours, Aircraft
>153 Hours in Type, Pilot
>450 Hours Total, Pilot
>242 Hours TW, Pilot
>
> Avemco: $5811
> EAA/Falcon: $2975 ($3075 last year + Test & 1st 10 hours)
> NationAir/Chartis $2888
> AOPA/AIG $2475
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Re: NAV/COM/GS Antenna |
>At 02:53 PM 1/26/2011 Wednesday, you wrote:
>Gday all,
>I bought a Comant CI-121 NAV/COM/GS Antenna (V dipole) to install on my VS but
I have discovered that it wont fit.
>The diameter of the mounting base is 2.5 inches and that will not fit into the
Fibreglass Fairing on top of the VS.
>Which V dipoles have other people used on their VS?
>
>Cheers
>
>John MacCallum
>Builder 41016
>
>Rydal NSW Australia
Hi John,
I realize you posted about this a few months old, but I thought I'd comment on
your VOR antenna mounting conundrum. You called out a "CI-121 Nav/COM/GS", but
I think you really meant something like a CI-158C which is a Di-pole VOR/GS/Loc
antenna. The CI-121 is a fiberglass COM antenna only.
Here is the Cheif web page on NAV/GS/Loc antennas:
http://www.chiefaircraft.com/airsec/Aircraft/Antennas/ComantIndustries-NAV.html
In any case, I mounted a CI-158C in the fin of my RV-8 and it works very nicely
there. Here are some pictures of the installation:
Finished Installation:
http://www.mattsrv8.com/users/display_log.php?user=MattsRV8&project=638&log=67041&row=1
Installation Techniques:
http://www.mattsrv8.com/users/display_log.php?user=MattsRV8&project=638&log=66967&row=49
http://www.mattsrv8.com/users/display_log.php?user=MattsRV8&project=638&log=66968&row=48
Best regards,
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Matt Dralle
RV-8 #82880 N998RV
http://www.mattsrv8.com - Matt's RV-8 Construction Log
http://www.youtube.com/MattsRV8 - Matt's RV-8 HDTV YouTube Channel
Status: 160+ Hours TTSN - Paint Job Is All That's Left...
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Heavy Right Wing... |
Dear Listers,
Well, taking the RV-8 in for paint is getting closer and closer and I'm trying
to get all the little things that need doing done before then. Dealing with the
heavy right wing is the next thing on the list. Currently, at low speed I
have about neutral aileron trim. The faster I go, the more LEFT trim I need.
Above 200mph, I run out of left trim and the left aileron is noticeably "up",
maybe .125" or so. Both of my ailerons are "chubby" at the trailing edge. I
wanted to confirm with the List that "squeezing" the RIGHT aileron will add a
bit of lift on the RIGHT side and hopefully neutralize the issue?
Thanks!
Matt
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Matt Dralle
RV-8 #82880 N998RV
http://www.mattsrv8.com - Matt's RV-8 Construction Log
http://www.youtube.com/MattsRV8 - Matt's RV-8 HDTV YouTube Channel
Status: 160+ Hours TTSN - Paint job is all that's left...
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Low RPM/High MP vs. High RPM/Low MP... |
Dear Listers,
With the IO-390 and Hartzell 72" CS on my RV-8, a combination of 2150 RPM and 25-26
MP gives me nice 200MPH True and about 10.5-10.8 GPH. These number are down
low, maybe 3000ft. Higher altitude gives lower GPHs. At 2150, the cockpit
is pretty quiet too.
Increasing the RPM and Decreasing the MP doesn't really change the GPH that much,
but starts dropping the speed.
In all configurations, I'm running LOP at about 1360 on the hottest cylinder.
Oil temps are about 178 F. Max MP at low altitude is about 28-29.
Are there any issues running in a low-RPM, high-MP configuration as described above?
Thanks,
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Matt Dralle
RV-8 #82880 N998RV
http://www.mattsrv8.com - Matt's RV-8 Construction Log
http://www.youtube.com/MattsRV8 - Matt's RV-8 HDTV YouTube Channel
Status: 160+ Hours TTSN - Paint job is all that's left...
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| From: | Jeff Hove <flying(at)jeffhove.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Heavy Right Wing... |
Hello Matt,
See http://www.vansaircraft.com/pdf/Wing_Heavy.pdf which says to squeeze
the aileron on the LIGHT wing (left in your case). However they first
suggest some other steps.
My father's RV-7A had a heavy right wing so he lowered the right aileron
outboard and inboard hinge points to take away most of the problem.
Blue Skies,
Jeff Hove
Matt Dralle wrote:
>
>
> Dear Listers,
>
> Well, taking the RV-8 in for paint is getting closer and closer and I'm trying
to get all the little things that need doing done before then. Dealing with
the heavy right wing is the next thing on the list. Currently, at low speed
I have about neutral aileron trim. The faster I go, the more LEFT trim I need.
Above 200mph, I run out of left trim and the left aileron is noticeably "up",
maybe .125" or so. Both of my ailerons are "chubby" at the trailing edge.
I wanted to confirm with the List that "squeezing" the RIGHT aileron will add
a bit of lift on the RIGHT side and hopefully neutralize the issue?
>
> Thanks!
>
> Matt
>
> -
> Matt Dralle
> RV-8 #82880 N998RV
> http://www.mattsrv8.com - Matt's RV-8 Construction Log
> http://www.youtube.com/MattsRV8 - Matt's RV-8 HDTV YouTube Channel
> Status: 160+ Hours TTSN - Paint job is all that's left...
>
>
>
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Heavy Right Wing... |
Thanks to everyone for the great feedback on this issue!!
I went out after work tonight and had a look at the aileron alignment and sure
enough, the outboard edge of the right aileron was high by about 1/16-3/32 of
an inch. I took the hinge off the aileron and elongated the holes slightly and
reassembled, dropping the outboard side by about 1/16". I went out and took
it up to about 220mph and now - are you ready for this - it requires full RIGHT
trim! Completely the opposite from before. So, obviously I need to reduce
the drop by 50% and I should be dead-on neutral trim! Its amazing to me how
such a little movement had such a HUGE impact on the trim. No, aileron edge smooshing
necessary, by the way! Whew!
Best,
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Matt Dralle
RV-8 #82880 N998RV
http://www.mattsrv8.com - Matt's RV-8 Construction Log
http://www.youtube.com/MattsRV8 - Matt's RV-8 HDTV YouTube Channel
Status: 160+ Hours TTSN - Paint job is all that's left...
At 09:10 AM 3/31/2011 Thursday, Matt Dralle wrote:
>--> RV-List message posted by: Matt Dralle
>
>
>Dear Listers,
>
>Well, taking the RV-8 in for paint is getting closer and closer and I'm trying
to get all the little things that need doing done before then. Dealing with
the heavy right wing is the next thing on the list. Currently, at low speed I
have about neutral aileron trim. The faster I go, the more LEFT trim I need.
Above 200mph, I run out of left trim and the left aileron is noticeably "up",
maybe .125" or so. Both of my ailerons are "chubby" at the trailing edge.
I wanted to confirm with the List that "squeezing" the RIGHT aileron will add
a bit of lift on the RIGHT side and hopefully neutralize the issue?
>
>Thanks!
>
>Matt
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Low RPM/High MP vs. High RPM/Low MP... |
Hum, interesting. In that graph, albeit for the IO-360, the "Limiting MP For Continuous
Ops" at 26 MP is 2100 RPM. 27 MP is 2200. Assuming the IO-390 is similar,
2150 at 26.5 ought to be good to go. BTW, I flew tonight and at 26/2150
I was seeing about 10.2-10.5 GPH @ 2500ft. Better than I recalled.
Where can I get a sweet chart like that for my IO-390? I looked quickly though
the manuals that came with the engine, and I didn't see one.
Thanks for the feedback everyone!
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Matt Dralle
RV-8 #82880 N998RV
http://www.mattsrv8.com - Matt's RV-8 Construction Log
http://www.youtube.com/MattsRV8 - Matt's RV-8 HDTV YouTube Channel
Status: 160+ Hours TTSN - Paint job is all that's left...
At 10:07 AM 3/31/2011 Thursday, you wrote:
>Matt,
>
>I don't have an IO390 but the manual for my IO360B shows that combination as outside
of the suggested area of continuous operation - yes it was a quick look
and I didn't purely run the numbers.
>
>I would guess that combination might be detonation-prone.
>
>YMMV - see if you can get the appropriate chart for the IO390. They are a bugger
to figure out too - but there are some guidelines.
>
>Ralph
>
>
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