Stratus-Archive.digest.vol-ae
November 03, 2006 - February 18, 2009
do feel like family.
Thank you for your support!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Have You Tried The New Matronics List Forum? |
Hello Listers,
One of the major new additions to the Matronics Email Lists this year was the addition
of a new and full function Forum Web Site at:
http://forums.matronics.com
The best part of these new Forums is that they are tied directly to the Classic
email distribution Lists! That also means that posts go in both directions.
If you post a message on the Forum web site, it will be cross posted to the respective
Email List. And, if you post a message to a particular Email List,
it will be cross posted to the same respective forum on the Forum site!
So, no matter what your content viewing pleasure is - either direct email distribution
or web-based GUI interface, you can have it at the Matronics Email Lists!
Won't you make a Contribution to support these Lists? It is your SOLE Contributions
that make their continued operation and upgrade possible!
The Contribution site is Fast, Easy, and Secure. Please surf over and make your
Contribution today:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Thank you!!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Wow, Cool! New List Feature... [Please Read] |
Dear Listers,
By popular suggestion, I've written a substantial new code module for the Matronics
Email Lists system. Here's how it works...
During each November, I send out quite a few PBS-like "Please make a Contribution
to support your List" emails. Wouldn't it be cool if, once a member made a
Contribution, they didn't have to receive my support pleas anymore for the rest
of that year?
Well, that's exactly what I've written! Following this posting, anyone that makes
a List Contribution in 2006 will no longer receive my Contribution Pleas for
the rest of the year!
The best part is this not only applies to the Realtime distribution, but also the
Digest distribution! For those that have made a Contribution, the Daily Digest
email-version will be invisibly stripped of my requests as well! (Note that
my requests will still be present in the online versions of the Digests, List
Browse, and on the Forum site.)
For those submitting their Contribution by personal Check, please be sure to include
your email address along with your Check as this is what is used to determine
eligibility.
So, in a nutshell, here's how it works:
Make a Contribution = No more "Please Make a Contribution" messages!
How sweet is that? If that's not a great reason to jump on the Matronics Email
List Contribution site and make your donation today, I don't know what is!
Don't forget that there are some totally awesome free gifts to be had along with
your List Contribution this year!! Don't wait a minute longer to support your
Lists!
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Thank you for your Support!!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | If You Got This Email, You Haven't Made A Contribution Yet! |
:-)
If you received this particular Matronics List Email message, its because you haven't
yet made a Contribution to support your Lists! This is the first PBS-like
funds drive message under the new distribution system. The new system selectively
sends out the Contribution messages ONLY to those that forgot to whip
out the 'ol credit card this year to support the continued operation and upgrade
of the Matronics Email Lists! Don't you wish PBS worked that way? :-)
You heard that right. Once you make your Contribution, these support requests
messages during November will suddenly stop coming to your personal email inbox!
Pardon me if I seem kind of excited about the new feature. I've wanted to
implement something like this for a number of years now, but it was always such
a daunting task to modify the back-end List processing code, that I just kept
putting it off. Finally this year, I just decided to bite the bullet and put
the code-pounding time it to make it work. A few days later, bam! A working
system!
Anyway, I'll stop gushing now. I really do appreciate each and every one of your
individual Contributions to support the Lists. It is your support that enables
me to upgrade the hardware and software that are required to run a List Site
like this. It also goes to pay for the Commercial-Grade Internet connection
and to pay the rather huge electric bill to keep the computer gear running
and the air conditioner powered up.
Your personal Contribution matters because when combined with other Listers such
as yourself, it pays the bills to keep this site up and running. I accept exactly
ZERO advertising dollars for the Matronics Lists sites. I can't stand
the pop-up ads and all other commercialism that is so prevalent on the Internet
these days and I particularly don't want to have it on my Email List site.
I'm pretty sure you don't either.
If you appreciate the ad-free, grass-roots, down-home feel of the Matronics Email
Lists, please make a Contribution today to keep it that way!!
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Thank you!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Clarification On New Contribution Module Operation... |
Dear Listers,
A number of Listers emailed and indicated that, even though they had made a Contribution
this year, they still received the Contribution message yesterday.
I looked into it and I found a slight anomaly (ok, bug) in the new code specifically
as it related to Listers that had made their Contribution through PayPal
AND have a DIFFERENT email address for their PayPal account and for their Matronics
List subscription.
If your PayPal account email address is DIFFERENT than the email address you are
subscribed to the Matronics List(s) as, then my new code module couldn't tell
that you had made a Contribution, since it was using the PayPal email address
instead of the List email.
I've fixed this issue for any new PayPal Contributions, but I don't have any easy
way of resolving this for any of the previous Contribtuions. Again, this is
ONLY an issue if your PayPal and Matronics List email addresses ARE NOT the
same. Otherwise, everything works great.
If you made a PayPal Contribution before 11/09/06 AND your email addresses don't
match, please drop me an email at " info(at)matronics.com " (do not reply to this
message!) and give me your Name, and both Email Addresses and I will manually
update the records so that things will work as advertised.
Sorry for the hassle! New code; new bugs... :-)
To make a Contribution, please see: http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Thank you!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administration
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
Dear Listers,
I added a new Wiki web site to the Matronics Email List features earlier this year. What's a Wiki, you ask? Well, here's the Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wiki) definition:
A wiki (IPA: [ w .ki ] or [ wi .ki ] ) is a type of Web site
that allows the visitors themselves to easily add, remove, and otherwise edit
and change some available content, sometimes without the need for registration.
This ease of interaction and operation makes a wiki an effective tool for
collaborative authoring. The term wiki also can refer to the collaborative software
itself (wiki engine) that facilitates the operation of such a Web site,
or to certain specific wiki sites, including the computer science site (an original
wiki), WikiWikiWeb, and on-line encyclopedias such as Wikipedia.
Under the Matronics Email List Moniker, there is now a very nice List-specific
Wiki available! It a place for Listers to put articles about any aviation topic
that suits them. The purpose is to provide what the mailing lists do not:
structure and persistence. The mailing lists are a fantastic resource to ask
a question and get good (and bad and funny and annoying) answers. But once the
question is asked and answered it is not in front of the List anymore. If a
new person subscribes the next day, he/she does not see that information unless
he/she goes to the trouble to search the archives, a hit or miss proposition.
The result is that the same thread of conversation gets created and/or revisited.
There are several things that happen as a result:
1. The person gets his or her question answered;
2. The information gets better as more people think about and answer the question;
3. The people who have seen the same question asked and answered get annoyed
at seeing the same things over and over and over and ...
So this is where the Wiki comes in. You know what questions you wanted answered.
You may have asked or answered the question. You know the information is useful.
So you put the information here, in the Matronics Email List Wiki!
It doesn't matter that this information is 100% complete or correct. Just writing
something creates a placeholder and makes useful information available immediately.
It has the same immediacy as the mailing list but it has persistence
and structure.
But what if the information is incomplete or incorrect? No problem! Anyone else
coming along can edit the article! If I write something and you discover something
I have left out or stated incorrectly, you can fix it right then!
So let's begin and make this the place for information about building, flying,
maintaining, and understanding our airplanes.
But what about whether something is "appropriate" or not? Don't worry. Write
it down. Let the reader determine whether or not it is appropriate. If it is,
he/she will read it. If it isn't, he/she won't. It's as simple as that.
And when you do write that article you won't have to worry about whether some editor
is going to decide whether or not to print it in a newsletter or whether
the webmaster will have time to put it up on the web page.
The last question I hear brewing out there is: if anyone can post anything, won't
this just become a mass of garbage? Surprisingly, the answer is a resounding
no. If you want proof, go visit the Wikipedia, a free-to-everyone encyclopedia
written by whoever wants to write articles. The articles there are as good
as anything I have read anywhere and anyone can add anything anytime they want
to.
So don't hesitate. Write it down. Put it here. It will never hurt anyone. The
more information we get here, the more useful it will become to other people
and the more information they will put here for YOU to use.
Here's the URL to start (there are lots more bured under this starting place):
http://www.matronics.com/wiki/index.php/Matronics:Community_Portal
But please don't forget that this Wiki and all of the other Matronics Email List
features are supported solely by YOUR Contributions!! November is List Fund
Raiser month and there are lots of Free Gifts to be had with your qualifying
Contribution. Please make a Contribution to support the continued operation and
upgrade of these great services!!! Thank you!
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | WLAS [Please Read] |
Dear Listers,
I sat down at the 'ol computer tonight to have a look at a few of the nice comments
List Members have been including along with their Contributions this year.
I was amazed at how many I found and even more amazed at some of the very nice
things Listers have been saying about the Lists and how valuable the they
are to them.
I've included quite a few of these nice comments below. Please read over some
of this great Lister feedback. No doubt you will find that you agree with at
least one or two of those comments - maybe all of them! If you find that do,
won't you please make a Contribution to support these Lists today!! Its fast
and easy with the Matronics List Contribution Web Site:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Don't forget that I've now fully implemented the new *List Fund Raiser Squelch*
feature that will automatically intercept any future iterations of my "Please
Contribute" messages -- that is, *once you've made YOUR Contribution*! How cool
is that? (Make sure the email address you enter along with your Contribution
matches exactly your subscribed List email address. An exact match is how
it works.)
Thank you for your generous Contributions this year and for all the wonderful comments!!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
================= What Listers Are Saying (WLAS) ================
Absolutely the best deal on the Internet!!
-Owen B
I love The Matronics...
-Robeto B
My wife has her soaps & I've got my lists!
-Hal B
These lists are, indeed, the lifeline of our hobby.
-Bob R
The best source of information for my a/c.
-Tony C
The Zenith list is the first thing I read in the morning.
-Herbert H
You do more good than you can imagine. I wish I'd known
about you while I was building my Kitfox, but you are
still an after-the-fact resource.
-Ben B
..an excellent site.
-Ashley M
The "List" has been the ultimate help for my Zenith
CH 701 project!!
-Brian U
I appreciate the list being here for me.
-Geoff H
..a great service.
-William C
The List continues to be an interesting and useful facility.
-David M
Your list is a constant goad to keep me working on my project.
-Thomas S
..a great service.
-Robert W
The Pietenpol list is a great resource.
-Benjamin W
The Yak-list is Awesome!
-James S
..great service.
-Robert S
The features you have implemented recently have you poised
to knock out yahoo groups...
-Danny D
I like how your forum looks/works and the list service...
-Ken E
..great service.
-David P
Very useful web site.
-Wayne E
..a very valuable service.
-Chris D
Great sites...
-Randall R
I used to look at [that other] site also but it's gotten so
cluttered with advertising that I've stopped looking at it.
-Wayne E
Without your services, the build would be a grope in the dark...
-Fergus K
The information and help I've received greatly outweighs the
donation...
-Lee P
..great service!
-Christopher D
I really don't think I could be building my plane without the
wisdom I find on this list.
-William G
It really makes building a pleasure.
-James P
..great service.
-Doug W
I'm getting near the end of my build (Europa tri XS) don't
think I could have done it with out the help of the forum.
-Stanislaus S
Marvelous service. Couldn't have done it without you.
-Jim G
Love the list, this is a wonderful way to help others...
-Michael S
..good service.
-Derek L
The list is responsible for helping me complete this project
and educating me in the process.
-Jeff D
Definitely worth the donation.
-Ron L
..great service to the aviation community.
-Tony P
I have been flying my plane for 5 years (RV-6) but I still
get valuable information from this service.
-Don N
A very helpful site.
-Roland S
It's a great community to be part of.
-David L
Great sites.
-John C
A great place to find and share not only information but to
meet people across the country and make lasting relationships.
-Uncle Craig
Great facility.
-Peter H
Its a great source of information!
-Michael W
Great improvements to the List...
-Edward A
Great service!!!
-Rich D
..great resource!
-William C
..excellent lists!
-Michael S
Couldn't have built my RV4 without the list.
-Warren M
..a great service...
-James N
I would not have missed [the list] for anything during the
building of my Europa.
-Svein J
..another great year.
-Robert D
..this [is an] essential builder's resource.
-David A
..excellent service.
-Gregory B
I've learned a huge amount of "stuff" over the past year
and look forward to it every day!
-Smith M
..a great communication tool...
-Jon M
Finished building 5 years ago, but still are lurking on
your great list!
-Lothar K
..a valuable service. At 11:00 pm Matronics is the goto
place for my RV questions.
-Mike D
================= What Listers Are Saying (WLAS) ================
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
Each year at the end of the List Fund Raiser, I post a message acknowledging everyone
that so generously made a Contribution to support the Lists. Its sort
of my way of publicly thanking everyone that took a minute to show their
appreciation for the Lists.
Won't you take a moment and assure that your name is on that List of Contributors
(LOC)? As a number of members have pointed out over the years, the List seems
at least - if not a whole lot more - valuable as a
building/flying/recreating/entertainment tool as your typical magazine subscription!
Please take minute and assure that your name is on this year's LOC! Show others
that you appreciate the Lists. Making a Contribution to support the Lists is
fast and easy using your Credit card or Paypal on the Secure Web Site:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
or by popping a personal check in the mail to:
Matt Dralle / Matronics
PO Box 347
Livermore CA 94551-0347
I would like to thank everyone that has so generously made a Contribution thus
far in this year's List Fund Raiser! Remember that its YOUR support that keeps
these Lists going and improving! Don't forget to include a little comment
about how the Lists have helped you!
Best regards,
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
If you look forward to checking your List email everyday (and a lot of you have
written to say that you do!), then you're probably getting at least 0 or 0 worth
of Entertainment from the Lists each year. You'd pay twice that for a subscription
to some lame magazine or even a dinner out. Isn't the List worth at
least that much to you? Wouldn't it be great if you could pay that same amount
and get a well-managed media source free of advertising, SPAM, and viruses?
Come to think of it, you do...
Won't you please take a minute to make your Contribution today and support YOUR
Lists?
Contribution Page:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Again, I want to say THANK YOU to everyone that has made a Contribution thus far
during this year's List Fund Raiser!! These Lists are made possible exclusively
through YOUR generosity!!
Thank you for your support!
Matt Dralle
Email List Admin.
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| From: | "Jim Weston" <k4cod(at)bellsouth.net> |
| Subject: | Oil Filter Cooler |
Is anyone still using this list? I have a question. Has anyone tried
putting cooling fins on the oil filter to help with summer time oil cooling
problems? I purchased some clamp on fins from J.C. Whitney a while back,
but haven't ever installed them. Just wondering if anyone has tried this
and if it did any good. During July and August here in the south I have to
watch my temps pretty closely and keep the cruise rpm down a bit.
Thanks,
Jim Weston
CH601HDS with Stratus since 1998
Concord, Georgia
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| From: | "gary" <gkrysztopik(at)satx.rr.com> |
| Subject: | Oil Filter Cooler |
Hey Jim,
Yup, I'm still here. I was wondering about those too. I thought my
cooling was perfect but after moving to TX, I found it was on the edge
during the summer. I opened my inlet more and that let me fly thru the
summer but I still had to step climb to keep it cool. I hate to go with
an oil cooler so I'm interested in any options. I'm hoping that a new
cowling design will do it. Maybe the larger oil pan from RAM? Maybe an
air duct to the oil filter in addition to the fins? Maybe an oil cooler
is best, we'll see.
gary
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-stratus-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-stratus-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim Weston
Sent: Saturday, November 18, 2006 10:36 PM
Subject: Stratus-List: Oil Filter Cooler
Is anyone still using this list? I have a question. Has anyone tried
putting cooling fins on the oil filter to help with summer time oil
cooling
problems? I purchased some clamp on fins from J.C. Whitney a while
back,
but haven't ever installed them. Just wondering if anyone has tried
this
and if it did any good. During July and August here in the south I have
to
watch my temps pretty closely and keep the cruise rpm down a bit.
Thanks,
Jim Weston
CH601HDS with Stratus since 1998
Concord, Georgia
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| From: | Don Walker <d3dw(at)sbcglobal.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Oil Filter Cooler |
Hi Jim,
Yes, I did the very same thing with no effect, though the ones I used were
small.
Jim, I live in Longview, Texas, as you may remember, and flying in the high nineties
is a regular thing in the summer.
My oil temp rarely exceeds 190 degrees now. I haven't seen it reach 200 in over
four years even in the hottest weather. I attribute this to two things.
1. My muffler is totally wrapped in a heat muff with air pasing over it all the
time. this alone will reduce oil temp by as much as thirty degrees.
2. I have an adjustable door/window in the cowling directly in front of the oil
pan...and baffles on the lower cowl along either side of the oil pan to direct
flow. In the winter I have to close it to heat the oil and warm up more quickly.
This door is simply a square piece of sheet with an angle added on the
lower edge for handle on the inside to slide it up and down. It is through bolted
with little round head bolts...one on each side to hold it at one of three
settings: wide open, medium and nearly closed.
Jim Weston wrote:
Is anyone still using this list? I have a question. Has anyone tried
putting cooling fins on the oil filter to help with summer time oil cooling
problems? I purchased some clamp on fins from J.C. Whitney a while back,
but haven't ever installed them. Just wondering if anyone has tried this
and if it did any good. During July and August here in the south I have to
watch my temps pretty closely and keep the cruise rpm down a bit.
Thanks,
Jim Weston
CH601HDS with Stratus since 1998
Concord, Georgia
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| From: | "Kelly Meiste" <kellymeiste(at)jcwifi.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Oil Filter Cooler |
Jim,
Yes I installed the JCW fins on my oil filter.
I also purchased the JCW remote oil filter kit. I now have my oil filter
under the belly of the plan approx under the passengers feet. This kit also
allows for an oil fitter that's twice the size of the wix filter that is
used on a stock installation. This setup allows for very easy oil filter
changes (I like that). Also with the large oil filter and approx 6 feet of
oil line to fill I now run an extra qt of oil in my system. The location of
the oil filter with the heat sink fins installed acts like a small oil
cooler.
My oil temp is much more stable now under all conditions. My oil temps in
the summer still run in the 215 - 220 range but like I said it seems to hold
there better without a sudden up swing in oil temp if I climb. The stable
oil temp really helps keep the water temps down also.
My installation has the exhaust wrap plus a heat shield between the muffler
and oil pan, and a additional air scoop just below the oil pan.
Photos of these installations are available if you wish to see them.
BUT if I lived in TX I think I would opt for the installation of a small oil
cooler.
Kelly Meiste
601 HD (150 hrs)
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim Weston" <k4cod(at)bellsouth.net>
Sent: Saturday, November 18, 2006 10:36 PM
Subject: Stratus-List: Oil Filter Cooler
>
> Is anyone still using this list? I have a question. Has anyone tried
> putting cooling fins on the oil filter to help with summer time oil
> cooling
> problems? I purchased some clamp on fins from J.C. Whitney a while back,
> but haven't ever installed them. Just wondering if anyone has tried this
> and if it did any good. During July and August here in the south I have
> to
> watch my temps pretty closely and keep the cruise rpm down a bit.
>
> Thanks,
> Jim Weston
> CH601HDS with Stratus since 1998
> Concord, Georgia
>
>
>
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| From: | "gary" <gkrysztopik(at)satx.rr.com> |
| Subject: | Oil Filter Cooler |
1. My muffler is totally wrapped in a heat muff with air pasing
over it all the time. this alone will reduce oil temp by as much as
thirty degrees.
I had to remove the stock exhaust to get my oil temps anywhere near
normal. It was ceramic coated and wrapped, and I tried a simple heat
shield that didn't seem to work so I made both pipes go straight back
into a single muffler under the belly. That improved my temps a lot.
That was with an enclosed cowling. Then I opened the bottom like the
zeniths and that helped a lot. I'd like to enclose the cowling again so
I'll be reworking everything soon. I spose the oil cooler makes sense.
gary
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| From: | "Andy Fultz" <fultz(at)trip.net> |
| Subject: | Oil Filter Cooler |
Jim,
Have you got plenty of airflow over the oilpan? That's all it took on a
friends AVID.
Andy
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-stratus-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-stratus-list-server(at)matronics.com]On Behalf Of Jim Weston
Sent: Saturday, November 18, 2006 10:36 PM
Subject: Stratus-List: Oil Filter Cooler
Is anyone still using this list? I have a question. Has anyone tried
putting cooling fins on the oil filter to help with summer time oil cooling
problems? I purchased some clamp on fins from J.C. Whitney a while back,
but haven't ever installed them. Just wondering if anyone has tried this
and if it did any good. During July and August here in the south I have to
watch my temps pretty closely and keep the cruise rpm down a bit.
Thanks,
Jim Weston
CH601HDS with Stratus since 1998
Concord, Georgia
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Why? [Please Read] |
Dear Listers,
Each year I like to explain why I have a Fund Raiser and also take the opportunity
to express why I think the List Services here provide a superior experience
over the commercial equivalents.
I use the List Fund Raiser each year to offset the costs involved with running
a high performance email list site such as this one. With the annual support
from the List members through the PBS-like Fund Raiser, I have found I can run
the entire site without having to inflect any of the members with those annoying
banner ads flashing up all the time trying to sell little-blue-pills or other
garbage nobody wants or needs. From the comments I've received over the years
regarding the Lists, the great majority of the members really appreciate
the non-commercialism of my List systems and don't mind my 'go-team-go' banter
once a year during November to encourage members to support the Lists.
I believe that the Lists services that I provide here offer many benefits over
the commercial equivalents in a number of ways. The first feature I believe to
be significant is that you cannot receive a computer v*rus from any of these
Lists directly. Each incoming message is filtered and dangerous attachments
stripped off prior to posting. I also provide a Photo and File Share feature
that allows members to share files and bitmaps with other members and everyone
can be assured that these files will be prescanned for any sort of v*rus before
they are posted. Safe and simple.
Another very important feature of this system in my opinion is the extensive List
Archives that are available for download, browsing, and searching. The Archives
go all the way back to the very beginning of each List and with the very
fast Search Engine, the huge size of some of the Archives is a non-issue in quickly
finding the data you're looking for.
And added just this year is the new Email List Forum that allows members who prefer
the Web BBS-style of List interaction. The beauty of the new List Forums
is that they contain the exact same content that is distributed via email. Messages
posted via email are cross-posted to the respective Forum and vice versa.
The Forums also allow for another convenient method of sharing pictures and
other files. Additionally added this year is the new List Wiki that allows
members to build their own "Online List Encyclopedia" of sorts, documenting various
aspects of their project for all to share.
I've been running email Lists and services under the matronics.com domain since
about 1989 starting with RV-List and 30 guys I knew and who where also building
RVs. It has grown into nearly 70 different aviation-related Email Lists and
an associated web site that receives over 23,000,000 hits each year!! Additionally,
the List Email system forwarded well over 87,000 postings last year,
accounting for an unbelievable 39,000,000 (yes, that's 39 MILLION) email messages
delivered to Matronics List subscribers! I think there's a lot of value in
supporting a service that has gone the long haul and is still providing and
improving a high quality service all _without any advertising budget_!
I have to admit running these Lists is a labor of love and I hope it shows in the
quality of the experience that you receive when you get a List Email Message,
Search the Archives, use the List Browser, or surf the Forums and Wiki sites.
The Lists will be here for a long time to come. If you just want to lurk
a while for free, that's great and I encourage you to do so. If you use, appreciate,
and receive value from these Lists, then please support them during the
Annual List Fund Raiser!
List Contribution Web Site:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Thank you,
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
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| From: | "Jim Weston" <k4cod(at)bellsouth.net> |
| Subject: | Oil Filter Cooler |
Andy,
I have the Zenith scoop at the front of the cowl and I opened up some slots
on the bottom rear of the cowl to allow some high pressure air to flow
through and over the back side of the oil pan. This helped some, but my oil
temps still run a bit higher than I'd like during summertime temps. I also
wrapped my pipes and muffler with high temperature exhaust wrap that I'm
told is used on race cars. That seemed to help the most. The heat from the
muffler seems to be the biggest offender. So, I can see where Gary would
have received a lot of help from moving the muffler to the underside of the
aircraft.
Jim
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-stratus-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-stratus-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Andy Fultz
Sent: Sunday, November 19, 2006 8:31 PM
Subject: RE: Stratus-List: Oil Filter Cooler
Jim,
Have you got plenty of airflow over the oilpan? That's all it took on a
friends AVID.
Andy
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-stratus-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-stratus-list-server(at)matronics.com]On Behalf Of Jim Weston
Sent: Saturday, November 18, 2006 10:36 PM
Subject: Stratus-List: Oil Filter Cooler
Is anyone still using this list? I have a question. Has anyone tried
putting cooling fins on the oil filter to help with summer time oil cooling
problems? I purchased some clamp on fins from J.C. Whitney a while back,
but haven't ever installed them. Just wondering if anyone has tried this
and if it did any good. During July and August here in the south I have to
watch my temps pretty closely and keep the cruise rpm down a bit.
Thanks,
Jim Weston
CH601HDS with Stratus since 1998
Concord, Georgia
--
6:48 AM
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Don Walker <d3dw(at)sbcglobal.net> |
| Subject: | Oil Filter Cooler |
Jim,
From my experience you have assessed this correctly. The muffler heat is the
offender. If you have room to wrap your muffler in a heat muff with 1/2" or
so space, then duct air into it and out, it will do wonders. I use mine for
cabin heat and it is plenty, as well as shielding the oil pan and blowing cool
air over the muffler continuously. Like I said earlier, I recorded very significant
reduction in oil temp.
I made my muff with a small sheet of aluminun...rolled to fit and connected with
a strip of nut plates. On either end I used semi-circular aluminum standoffs
of 1/4" plate, like two "C's" butted against each other for a spacer to creat
the 1/2" chamber around the muffler. Has worked great now for years.
Earlier in the process I tried wrapping the manifold in exhaust wrap, too, but
I didn't like that. don
Jim Weston wrote:
Andy,
I have the Zenith scoop at the front of the cowl and I opened up some slots
on the bottom rear of the cowl to allow some high pressure air to flow
through and over the back side of the oil pan. This helped some, but my oil
temps still run a bit higher than I'd like during summertime temps. I also
wrapped my pipes and muffler with high temperature exhaust wrap that I'm
told is used on race cars. That seemed to help the most. The heat from the
muffler seems to be the biggest offender. So, I can see where Gary would
have received a lot of help from moving the muffler to the underside of the
aircraft.
Jim
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-stratus-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-stratus-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Andy Fultz
Sent: Sunday, November 19, 2006 8:31 PM
Subject: RE: Stratus-List: Oil Filter Cooler
Jim,
Have you got plenty of airflow over the oilpan? That's all it took on a
friends AVID.
Andy
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-stratus-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-stratus-list-server(at)matronics.com]On Behalf Of Jim Weston
Sent: Saturday, November 18, 2006 10:36 PM
Subject: Stratus-List: Oil Filter Cooler
Is anyone still using this list? I have a question. Has anyone tried
putting cooling fins on the oil filter to help with summer time oil cooling
problems? I purchased some clamp on fins from J.C. Whitney a while back,
but haven't ever installed them. Just wondering if anyone has tried this
and if it did any good. During July and August here in the south I have to
watch my temps pretty closely and keep the cruise rpm down a bit.
Thanks,
Jim Weston
CH601HDS with Stratus since 1998
Concord, Georgia
--
6:48 AM
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Oil Filter Cooler |
| From: | "Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis)" <frank.hinde(at)hp.com> |
Just for fun, Have you tried dropping your sensor into a pan of boiing
water?...I have known guages to read incorrectly.
Frank
________________________________
From: owner-stratus-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-stratus-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Don Walker
Sent: Monday, November 20, 2006 10:59 AM
Subject: RE: Stratus-List: Oil Filter Cooler
Jim,
From my experience you have assessed this correctly. The muffler heat
is the offender. If you have room to wrap your muffler in a heat muff
with 1/2" or so space, then duct air into it and out, it will do
wonders. I use mine for cabin heat and it is plenty, as well as
shielding the oil pan and blowing cool air over the muffler
continuously. Like I said earlier, I recorded very significant reduction
in oil temp.
I made my muff with a small sheet of aluminun...rolled to fit and
connected with a strip of nut plates. On either end I used semi-circular
aluminum standoffs of 1/4" plate, like two "C's" butted against each
other for a spacer to creat the 1/2" chamber around the muffler. Has
worked great now for years.
Earlier in the process I tried wrapping the manifold in exhaust wrap,
too, but I didn't like that. don
Jim Weston wrote:
Andy,
I have the Zenith scoop at the front of the cowl and I opened up
some slots
on the bottom rear of the cowl to allow some high pressure air
to flow
through and over the back side of the oil pan. This helped some,
but my oil
temps still run a bit higher than I'd like during summertime
temps. I also
wrapped my pipes and muffler with high temperature exhaust wrap
that I'm
told is used on race cars. That seemed to help the most. The
heat from the
muffler seems to be the biggest offender. So, I can see where
Gary would
have received a lot of help from moving the muffler to the
underside of the
aircraft.
Jim
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-stratus-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-stratus-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of
Andy Fultz
Sent: Sunday, November 19, 2006 8:31 PM
To: stratus-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: RE: Stratus-List: Oil Filter Cooler
Jim,
Have you got plenty of airflow over the oilpan? That's all it
took on a
friends AVID.
Andy
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-stratus-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-stratus-list-server(at)matronics.com]On Behalf Of Jim
Weston
Sent: Saturday, November 18, 2006 10:36 PM
To: stratus-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Stratus-List: Oil Filter Cooler
Is anyone still using this list? I have a question. Has anyone
tried
putting cooling fins on the oil filter to help with summer time
oil cooling
problems? I purchased
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "P.H. Raker" <n556p(at)yahoo.com> |
| Subject: | Oil Filter Cooler |
Yes, Jim,
There are still some of us monitoring this list. Not much action
recently.
I've heard that the oil filter cooling fins do work. I have no
personal experience with them, yet. I plan to put them on the filter
on my Stratus when I get ready to fire it up.
Phil Raker N556P Zenith HDS/Stratus ~85% completed
> From: "Jim Weston"
> Subject: Stratus-List: Oil Filter Cooler
>
> Is anyone still using this list? I have a question. Has anyone
> tried putting cooling fins on the oil filter to help with summer
> time oil cooling problems? I purchased some clamp on fins from
> J.C. Whitney a while back, but haven't ever installed them. Just
> wondering if anyone has tried this and if it did any good. During
> July and August here in the south I have to watch my temps pretty
> closely and keep the cruise rpm down a bit.
>
> Thanks,
> Jim Weston
> CH601HDS with Stratus since 1998
> Concord, Georgia
>
>
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| From: | "Kelly Meiste" <kellymeiste(at)jcwifi.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Oil Filter Cooler |
Greetings Frank!
Nice to hear from you again, glad to see your still monitoring this
list.
Kelly
Do not achieve
----- Original Message -----
From: Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis)
To: stratus-list(at)matronics.com
Sent: Monday, November 20, 2006 1:10 PM
Subject: RE: Stratus-List: Oil Filter Cooler
Just for fun, Have you tried dropping your sensor into a pan of boiing
water?...I have known guages to read incorrectly.
Frank
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Tim Vader" <vadert(at)telusplanet.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Oil Filter Cooler |
List
I began subscribing to the list about three or four months ago.
Thought the list was dead. Good to see others are using it. I don't
have a Stratus but do have an EA81 with belt redrive in my Kitfox IV.
First flight was Aug 26 2005, Second flight same day, engine out, off
field landing, lots of damage. Engine fired up and ran smoothly two
days after accident. Airframe is currently repaired and am going over
the engine/fuel sytem/electrical this winter. Aerocarb Throttle body,
Leburg ignition. Reductions belt redrive. Haven't positively
identified the cause of the engine out yet but will work through things
over the winter. Looking forward to more posts to get more information
on possible weak spots to monitor when I fly again this spring. Can't
wait.
Tim Vader
Kitfox IV
Calgary, Alberta,
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Dean Barber <mopar(at)intergate.com> |
| Subject: | Prop and motor mount wanted |
Hello,
Been watching this list for several months and didn't see much activity
until the oil temperature issue came up. Guess that means the Stratus
is as reliable as I heard it was.
I have a Stratus EA81 that I am going to install on an Avid Flyer.
Before I buy new parts from Airdale.com and Warp, I'd like to find good
used, if possible. I need an Avid Stratus motor mount, and a Warp
3-blade 70" HPL prop. Nickel leading edges are a big plus--I anticipate
lots of float time.
Thanks for any help guys!
Regards,
Dean Barber
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Oil Filter Cooler |
| From: | "Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis)" <frank.hinde(at)hp.com> |
Two things to look for.
1) The Subaru ignitor chip is notoriously feeble...You really should
replace this with a TP 45 module from NAPA.
2) Did you have a valve guide failure?...It would be unusual for this to
stop the engine completly though.
Frank
________________________________
From: owner-stratus-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-stratus-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Vader
Sent: Monday, November 20, 2006 8:31 PM
Subject: Re: Stratus-List: Oil Filter Cooler
List
I began subscribing to the list about three or four months ago.
Thought the list was dead. Good to see others are using it. I don't
have a Stratus but do have an EA81 with belt redrive in my Kitfox IV.
First flight was Aug 26 2005, Second flight same day, engine out, off
field landing, lots of damage. Engine fired up and ran smoothly two
days after accident. Airframe is currently repaired and am going over
the engine/fuel sytem/electrical this winter. Aerocarb Throttle body,
Leburg ignition. Reductions belt redrive. Haven't positively
identified the cause of the engine out yet but will work through things
over the winter. Looking forward to more posts to get more information
on possible weak spots to monitor when I fly again this spring. Can't
wait.
Tim Vader
Kitfox IV
Calgary, Alberta,
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | GKrysztopik(at)satx.rr.com |
| Subject: | Re: Prop and motor mount wanted |
I have a 3-blade Warp, 72", HP, SAE-1, w/Nickel leading edges and I
plan to sell it soon. Maybe the engine mount oo but not sure if it
will fit an AVID (does it have a 90 degree firewall?). Mine is on a
Pelican and I'm still hoping to do an engine and prop upgrade soon but
as usual, it's moving very slow. Check back in a while.
gary
----- Original Message -----
From: Dean Barber <mopar(at)intergate.com>
Date: Tuesday, November 21, 2006 5:38 am
Subject: Stratus-List: Prop and motor mount wanted
>
> Hello,
>
> Been watching this list for several months and didn't see much
> activity
> until the oil temperature issue came up. Guess that means the
> Stratus
> is as reliable as I heard it was.
>
> I have a Stratus EA81 that I am going to install on an Avid Flyer.
>
> Before I buy new parts from Airdale.com and Warp, I'd like to find
> good
> used, if possible. I need an Avid Stratus motor mount, and a Warp
> 3-blade 70" HPL prop. Nickel leading edges are a big plus--I
> anticipate
> lots of float time.
>
> Thanks for any help guys!
>
> Regards,
>
> Dean Barber
>
>
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | GKrysztopik(at)satx.rr.com |
| Subject: | Re: Oil Filter Cooler |
when did the enigne die - climbout or level cruise? full-power? i ask
because fuel flow can be an issue. has fuel flow been tested on the
ground at climbout attitude? is there a three-stage fuel filtering
system (course filter in tank, gascolator, and fine filters before
carb)? were gascolator and filters clean? is there redundant power to
the ignition (or computer)? if not, there should be and if so, was
backup power on or did it not keep the engine running? how long was
the engine running before it died? was it very hot? electricals can
quit when hot then work again when cold. is the alt working and wired
correctly? maybe it was running off of the battery until it died.
good luck, send more info so we can brainstorm. also send to
airsoob/flysoob and others can suggest things to check. email lists
are great for group troubleshooting.
gary
----- Original Message -----
From: Tim Vader <vadert(at)telusplanet.net>
Date: Monday, November 20, 2006 11:36 pm
Subject: Re: Stratus-List: Oil Filter Cooler
> List
>
> I began subscribing to the list about three or four months
> ago. Thought the list was dead. Good to see others are using it.
> I don't have a Stratus but do have an EA81 with belt redrive in
> my Kitfox IV. First flight was Aug 26 2005, Second flight same
> day, engine out, off field landing, lots of damage. Engine fired
> up and ran smoothly two days after accident. Airframe is currently
> repaired and am going over the engine/fuel sytem/electrical this
> winter. Aerocarb Throttle body, Leburg ignition. Reductions belt
> redrive. Haven't positively identified the cause of the engine
> out yet but will work through things over the winter. Looking
> forward to more posts to get more information on possible weak
> spots to monitor when I fly again this spring. Can't wait.
>
> Tim Vader
> Kitfox IV
> Calgary, Alberta,
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | LarryMcFarland <larry(at)macsmachine.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Oil Filter Cooler |
Kelly,
Do you have a specific JCW number for the fins and remote oil filter
kit? I'd be very interested in seeing the pictures
of your remote filter installation and mounting. This sounds like a
really keen application.
Larry McFarland - 601HDS at www.macsmachine.com
Kelly Meiste wrote:
>
>
> Jim,
>
> Yes I installed the JCW fins on my oil filter.
> I also purchased the JCW remote oil filter kit. I now have my oil
> filter under the belly of the plan approx under the passengers feet.
> This kit also allows for an oil fitter that's twice the size of the
> wix filter that is used on a stock installation. This setup allows for
> very easy oil filter changes (I like that). Also with the large oil
> filter and approx 6 feet of oil line to fill I now run an extra qt of
> oil in my system. The location of the oil filter with the heat sink
> fins installed acts like a small oil cooler.
> My oil temp is much more stable now under all conditions. My oil temps
> in the summer still run in the 215 - 220 range but like I said it
> seems to hold there better without a sudden up swing in oil temp if I
> climb. The stable oil temp really helps keep the water temps down also.
> My installation has the exhaust wrap plus a heat shield between the
> muffler and oil pan, and a additional air scoop just below the oil pan.
> Photos of these installations are available if you wish to see them.
> BUT if I lived in TX I think I would opt for the installation of a
> small oil cooler.
>
> Kelly Meiste
> 601 HD (150 hrs)
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Weston" <k4cod(at)bellsouth.net>
> To:
> Sent: Saturday, November 18, 2006 10:36 PM
> Subject: Stratus-List: Oil Filter Cooler
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Kelly Meiste" <kellymeiste(at)jcwifi.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Oil Filter Cooler |
Hi Larry,
Yes I still have the info & photo's, I'll try to dig it out for you
tomorrow.
FWIW, I just re-installed my radiator heater last weekend, this time I made
adjustable louvers to dump the hot air out the bottom if I fly on warm days,
I'll shoot you a photo of that installation as well.
Have a Happy Thanksgiving with the family!
Kelly
don not achieve
----- Original Message -----
From: "LarryMcFarland" <larry(at)macsmachine.com>
Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2006 10:23 AM
Subject: Re: Stratus-List: Oil Filter Cooler
>
>
> Kelly,
> Do you have a specific JCW number for the fins and remote oil filter kit?
> I'd be very interested in seeing the pictures
> of your remote filter installation and mounting. This sounds like a
> really keen application.
>
> Larry McFarland - 601HDS at www.macsmachine.com
>
> Kelly Meiste wrote:
>>
>>
>> Jim,
>>
>> Yes I installed the JCW fins on my oil filter.
>> I also purchased the JCW remote oil filter kit. I now have my oil filter
>> under the belly of the plan approx under the passengers feet. This kit
>> also allows for an oil fitter that's twice the size of the wix filter
>> that is used on a stock installation. This setup allows for very easy oil
>> filter changes (I like that). Also with the large oil filter and approx 6
>> feet of oil line to fill I now run an extra qt of oil in my system. The
>> location of the oil filter with the heat sink fins installed acts like a
>> small oil cooler.
>> My oil temp is much more stable now under all conditions. My oil temps in
>> the summer still run in the 215 - 220 range but like I said it seems to
>> hold there better without a sudden up swing in oil temp if I climb. The
>> stable oil temp really helps keep the water temps down also.
>> My installation has the exhaust wrap plus a heat shield between the
>> muffler and oil pan, and a additional air scoop just below the oil pan.
>> Photos of these installations are available if you wish to see them.
>> BUT if I lived in TX I think I would opt for the installation of a small
>> oil cooler.
>>
>> Kelly Meiste
>> 601 HD (150 hrs)
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Weston" <k4cod(at)bellsouth.net>
>> To:
>> Sent: Saturday, November 18, 2006 10:36 PM
>> Subject: Stratus-List: Oil Filter Cooler
>
>
>
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| From: | "Tim Vader" <vadert(at)telusplanet.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Oil Filter Cooler |
Frank
Thanks for the advice. I'm running the Leburg
(www.leeburg.freeserve.co.uk/) ignition system. Two magnets on a
modified drive pulley on the crankshaft give my ignition module timing
and RPM data. The ignition module then tells the coil when to fire each
of the plugs. Advance curve is built into the ignition module. I found
the stock Subaru electronic ignition finicky and replaced it with this
system early on. Seems to work very well but I will be dualling the
system from the coil on back before next flight.
I had 50+ hours of ground running on the engine before first flight
and didn't seem to have any problems. The engine fired up and ran
smoothly two days after the accident. What would be the symptoms of a
valve guide failure?
Tim Vader
----- Original Message -----
From: Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis)
To: stratus-list(at)matronics.com
Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2006 8:22 AM
Subject: RE: Stratus-List: Oil Filter Cooler
Two things to look for.
1) The Subaru ignitor chip is notoriously feeble...You really should
replace this with a TP 45 module from NAPA.
2) Did you have a valve guide failure?...It would be unusual for this
to stop the engine completly though.
Frank
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[mailto:owner-stratus-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Vader
Sent: Monday, November 20, 2006 8:31 PM
To: stratus-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Re: Stratus-List: Oil Filter Cooler
List
I began subscribing to the list about three or four months ago.
Thought the list was dead. Good to see others are using it. I don't
have a Stratus but do have an EA81 with belt redrive in my Kitfox IV.
First flight was Aug 26 2005, Second flight same day, engine out, off
field landing, lots of damage. Engine fired up and ran smoothly two
days after accident. Airframe is currently repaired and am going over
the engine/fuel sytem/electrical this winter. Aerocarb Throttle body,
Leburg ignition. Reductions belt redrive. Haven't positively
identified the cause of the engine out yet but will work through things
over the winter. Looking forward to more posts to get more information
on possible weak spots to monitor when I fly again this spring. Can't
wait.
Tim Vader
Kitfox IV
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| From: | "P.H. Raker" <n556p(at)yahoo.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Oil Filter Cooler |
Kelly,
I'd be interested to see your pics of the remote filter
installation and cowl flaps, too. Thanx muchly.
Phil Raker N556P Zenith HDS/Stratus ~85% completed
> From: "Kelly Meiste"
> Subject: Re: Stratus-List: Oil Filter Cooler
>
> Yes I still have the info & photo's, I'll try to dig it out
> for you tomorrow.
>
> FWIW, I just re-installed my radiator heater last weekend,
> this time I made adjustable louvers to dump the hot air out
> the bottom if I fly on warm days, I'll shoot you a photo of
> that installation as well.
>
> Kelly
>
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| Subject: | Oil Filter Cooler |
| From: | "Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis)" <frank.hinde(at)hp.com> |
Usually the engine will "cough" as it snaps off chunk of guide which
then gets mashed in the combustion chamber.
Engine stoppages have happened though, if yours just quit without
running really rough before hand I would suspect the ignition system.
Is it possible you had oil starvation?...Unlikely, but I know the that
some Soob motors have the oil pickup over an inch above the floor of the
sump and it gets uncovered duing climbout.
Did you have fuel pressure at the carb when the engine quit?
Good luck...I know the feeling...I think I have just trashed my new
Lycoming...Wont know till I get the borescope test one next week but I
think I have...I feel sick..:)
Frank
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[mailto:owner-stratus-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Vader
Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2006 8:56 AM
Subject: Re: Stratus-List: Oil Filter Cooler
Frank
Thanks for the advice. I'm running the Leburg
(www.leeburg.freeserve.co.uk/) ignition system. Two magnets on a
modified drive pulley on the crankshaft give my ignition module timing
and RPM data. The ignition module then tells the coil when to fire each
of the plugs. Advance curve is built into the ignition module. I found
the stock Subaru electronic ignition finicky and replaced it with this
system early on. Seems to work very well but I will be dualling the
system from the coil on back before next flight.
I had 50+ hours of ground running on the engine before first flight
and didn't seem to have any problems. The engine fired up and ran
smoothly two days after the accident. What would be the symptoms of a
valve guide failure?
Tim Vader
----- Original Message -----
From: Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis)
To: stratus-list(at)matronics.com
Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2006 8:22 AM
Subject: RE: Stratus-List: Oil Filter Cooler
Two things to look for.
1) The Subaru ignitor chip is notoriously feeble...You really
should replace this with a TP 45 module from NAPA.
2) Did you have a valve guide failure?...It would be unusual for
this to stop the engine completly though.
Frank
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[mailto:owner-stratus-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Vader
Sent: Monday, November 20, 2006 8:31 PM
To: stratus-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Re: Stratus-List: Oil Filter Cooler
List
I began subscribing to the list about three or four months
ago. Thought the list was dead. Good to see others are using it. I
don't have a Stratus but do have an EA81 with belt redrive in my Kitfox
IV. First flight was Aug 26 2005, Second flight same day, engine out,
off field landing, lots of damage. Engine fired up and ran smoothly two
days after accident. Airframe is currently repaired and am going over
the engine/fuel sytem/electrical this winter. Aerocarb Throttle body,
Leburg ignition. Reductions belt redrive. Haven't positively
identified the cause of the engine out yet but will work through things
over the winter. Looking forward to more posts to get more information
on possible weak spots to monitor when I fly again this spring. Can't
wait.
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| From: | "gary" <gkrysztopik(at)satx.rr.com> |
| Subject: | Oil Filter Cooler |
Make sure you get the right threads. I have info somewhere, but more
than one thread size will fit. The wrong one will not go in enough to
keep it secure (I've heard).
gary
Kelly,
Do you have a specific JCW number for the fins and remote oil filter
kit? I'd be very interested in seeing the pictures
of your remote filter installation and mounting. This sounds like a
really keen application.
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| From: | "Kelly Meiste" <kellymeiste(at)jcwifi.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Oil Filter Cooler |
> Make sure you get the right threads. I have info somewhere, but more
> than one thread size will fit. The wrong one will not go in enough to
> keep it secure (I've heard).
>
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This is true.
The kit is a "universal" application. It comes with 3 adapters with 6 thread
combinations to make the correct thread match. If I remember there was one
what was very close but not perfect, and one did have a perfect thread
match.
The kit also came with 2 different oil filter mounting plates. One would
match up with a small dia filter, and the other matches the larger dia oil
filter. They also supply 8 foot of Goodyear rubber hose, and the clamps
required to install.
Biggest problem on the installation was getting the adapter plate installed
on the engine so the hoses coming out would pass the lower motor mount (no
tight bends allowed).
Kelly
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| Subject: | Repairman Course/Rainbow Aviation |
My name is Gayla. My husband Sam has been a member of your list for some
time and I need your help. Sam paid for a 120 hour Repairman Course through
Rainbow Aviation. He has passed away due to an accident. This course
allows you to perform maintenance and conditional inspections on light-sport
aircraft, perform annuals and the 100 hour inspections for any experimental
light-sport aircraft. I have for sale and Carol at Rainbow Aviation is
aware of my posting to the various lists, a seat to the January 22nd -
February 9th Repairman Course or a stand-by seat to any future 120 hour
Repairman Course. The cost is $3,595.00 and you do NOT need to be a member
of EAA or any other organization to get this discounted price. You can
contact Carol Carpenter (owner of Rainbow Aviation) at:
info(at)rainbowaviation.com (530-824-0644 or 530-567-5141) or you can email me
(GaylaLemley(at)PeoplePC.com) and I will get the information to Carol. Carol
is really trying to help me recoup some of the money and is trying to get
the seat sold as well. The sale will be handled through Carol at Rainbow
Aviation.
Hope there is someone out there who wants to attend this course or purchase
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| From: | LarryMcFarland <larry(at)macsmachine.com> |
Hi guys,
This list has been quiet since November. Ive finished a few radiator
intakes per request. With those obligations met, Ive two left that will
complete fiberglass intakes till late 2007. If you need to improve
cooling and the appearance of the standard ZAC belly mounted rabbit
radiator, let me know and Ill send you more info on the intake.
This arrangement has shown to work well on either 601 or 701 series
aircraft flying Subaru.
http://www.macsmachine.com/images/completion/full/fairingintake.gif
http://www.macsmachine.com/images/completion/full/601ezclosefrtrt.gif
Do fly safe
Larry McFarland Subaru powered 601HDS at www.macsmachine.com
<http://www.macsmachine.com/>
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| From: | "gary" <gkrysztopik(at)satx.rr.com> |
| Subject: | Static RPM for 100HP EA81 Subaru |
Would someone with a 100HP EA81 Subaru conversion with a three blade
Warp Drive prop tell me what static RPM they're getting and what
pitch setting. I think I've been running mine too coarse and I'm
going to try a finer pitch and would like some ballpark figures to
compare my results to.
Here's what I get on my plane (engine rpm (prop rpm));
warp 3-blade, 70", square tip
stratus 2.2:1 reduction, 100 HP at 5400 rpm
pitch static climb WOT
level
12 deg 4800 (2182) 5000 (2272) 5400+ (2454)
14 deg 4600 (2091) 4800 (2182) 5000 (2272)
16 deg 4200 (1909) 4600 (2091)
gary
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| From: | LarryMcFarland <larry(at)macsmachine.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Static RPM for 100HP EA81 Subaru |
Bryan,
I think I've quoted you apples and oranges. What was written for rpm in
06 runups
and the rpms seen in Gary's data tends to suggest I could not have been
getting 5100 rpm
static at the pitch I'm using now. Please disregard my static number as
I believe it doesn't
agree with the pitch that was actually used last year. Too great a
range of difference as
I use the same prop but was taking data for rpms when the pitch was
being adjusted.
Another case of the fingers getting ahead of the brain.........
Larry McFarland
gary wrote:
>
>
> Would someone with a 100HP EA81 Subaru conversion with a three blade
> Warp Drive prop tell me what static RPM they're getting and what
> pitch setting. I think I've been running mine too coarse and I'm
> going to try a finer pitch and would like some ballpark figures to
> compare my results to.
>
>
> Here's what I get on my plane (engine rpm (prop rpm));
>
>
>
> warp 3-blade, 70", square tip
>
> stratus 2.2:1 reduction, 100 HP at 5400 rpm
>
>
>
> pitch static climb WOT
> level
>
>
>
> 12 deg 4800 (2182) 5000 (2272) 5400+ (2454)
>
> 14 deg 4600 (2091) 4800 (2182) 5000 (2272)
>
> 16 deg 4200 (1909) 4600 (2091)
>
>
>
> gary
>
>
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| From: | "Bill Morelli" <billvt(at)together.net> |
| Subject: | Static RPM for 100HP EA81 Subaru |
Bryan,
I initially had my prop pitch at 12.5 degrees and had a static RPM of 4900 RPM
I now am at 15 degrees but have not checked the static RPM at that pitch setting
Bill
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| From: | "Hugh & Sherry MacKenzie" <hugs.mackenzie(at)sympatico.ca> |
| Subject: | Ignition Module Wiring - revisited |
I have finally decided to change my secondary ignition module to the TP45
from the Stratus supplied unit. I searched the archives here but did not
find any definitive info on the coding of the three wires coming from the
Stratus supplied flywheel pick-up.
Here is what I found in the archives:
Coil + goes to TP45 B terminal
Coil - goes to TP45 C terminal
Magnetic pick-up + (usually a red wire) goes to TP45 G
Magnetic pick-up - (usually a white wire) goes to TP45 W
The magnetic pick-up I have has three wires, Red, White and Black. The
suggestions above from the archives did not work. Can some one using this
Stratus supplied pick-up tell me which one is which? I assume the third wire
is +12v.
Thanks,
Hugh Mackenzie
CH601HDS
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| From: | LarryMcFarland <larry(at)macsmachine.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Ignition Module Wiring - revisited |
Hi Hugh,
I looked at my ignition this evening and find three wires red black and
green coming from the pickup to a plug connected with the solid state
module that goes with the flywheel pickup. From it, two wires red and
black come from the solid state box to my B coil, red to the black with
white stripe coil wire and the black going to the blue coil wire. I'm
not sure that you could use the TP45 in replacement of the solid state
box provided by Stratus.
Larry McFarland 601HDS at www.macsmachine.com
Hugh & Sherry MacKenzie wrote:
>
> I have finally decided to change my secondary ignition module to the
> TP45 from the Stratus supplied unit. I searched the archives here but
> did not find any definitive info on the coding of the three wires
> coming from the Stratus supplied flywheel pick-up.
>
> Here is what I found in the archives:
>
> Coil + goes to TP45 B terminal
>
> Coil goes to TP45 C terminal
>
> Magnetic pick-up + (usually a red wire) goes to TP45 G
>
> Magnetic pick-up (usually a white wire) goes to TP45 W
>
> The magnetic pick-up I have has three wires, Red, White and Black. The
> suggestions above from the archives did not work. Can some one using
> this Stratus supplied pick-up tell me which one is which? I assume the
> third wire is +12v.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Hugh Mackenzie
>
> CH601HDS
>
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| Subject: | Ignition Module Wiring - revisited |
| From: | "Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis)" <frank.hinde(at)hp.com> |
Yes this is the first time I have heared of somebobody trying this.
Besides, last time I was standing in Mykal's shop there was a little
pile of flywheel pickups that ther labelled "bad" So I would not be
surprised if using the TP45 is not replacing the unreliable part anyway.
The Twin TP 45 system builds two subaru pickups into the distributor,
each of which drive a TP 45 (same as the GM 4 pin module).
Of course you need a second pickup. I happen to have one if you need it.
Frank
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-stratus-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-stratus-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of
LarryMcFarland
Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2007 6:28 PM
Subject: Re: Stratus-List: Ignition Module Wiring - revisited
-->
Hi Hugh,
I looked at my ignition this evening and find three wires red black and
green coming from the pickup to a plug connected with the solid state
module that goes with the flywheel pickup. From it, two wires red and
black come from the solid state box to my B coil, red to the black with
white stripe coil wire and the black going to the blue coil wire. I'm
not sure that you could use the TP45 in replacement of the solid state
box provided by Stratus.
Larry McFarland 601HDS at www.macsmachine.com
Hugh & Sherry MacKenzie wrote:
>
> I have finally decided to change my secondary ignition module to the
> TP45 from the Stratus supplied unit. I searched the archives here but
> did not find any definitive info on the coding of the three wires
> coming from the Stratus supplied flywheel pick-up.
>
> Here is what I found in the archives:
>
> Coil + goes to TP45 B terminal
>
> Coil - goes to TP45 C terminal
>
> Magnetic pick-up + (usually a red wire) goes to TP45 G
>
> Magnetic pick-up - (usually a white wire) goes to TP45 W
>
> The magnetic pick-up I have has three wires, Red, White and Black. The
> suggestions above from the archives did not work. Can some one using
> this Stratus supplied pick-up tell me which one is which? I assume the
> third wire is +12v.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Hugh Mackenzie
>
> CH601HDS
>
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| From: | "Bill Morelli" <billvt(at)together.net> |
| Subject: | RE: Stratus-List Digest: 2 Msgs - 04/29/07 |
The pickup in the distributor is a 2 wire magnetic pickup and generates
it's output when a metal surface passes by.
The flywheel pickup on the other hand is I believe a Hall Effect pickup and
requires power and needs a magnet to pass by to give an output. Seems to me
that if you get power to the pickup (+12 to the red wire) and wire the
black & white wires to the TP45, it may work.
I have not tried this as I have my TP45 wired to my distributor pickup.
Regards,
Bill
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> 1. 04:50 PM - Ignition Module Wiring - revisited (Hugh & Sherry
MacKenzie)
> 2. 06:27 PM - Re: Ignition Module Wiring - revisited
(LarryMcFarland)
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> From: "Hugh & Sherry MacKenzie" <hugs.mackenzie(at)sympatico.ca>
> Subject: Stratus-List: Ignition Module Wiring - revisited
>
> I have finally decided to change my secondary ignition module to the TP45
> from the Stratus supplied unit. I searched the archives here but did not
> find any definitive info on the coding of the three wires coming from the
> Stratus supplied flywheel pick-up.
>
>
> Here is what I found in the archives:
>
>
> Coil + goes to TP45 B terminal
>
> Coil - goes to TP45 C terminal
>
> Magnetic pick-up + (usually a red wire) goes to TP45 G
>
> Magnetic pick-up - (usually a white wire) goes to TP45 W
>
>
> The magnetic pick-up I have has three wires, Red, White and Black. The
> suggestions above from the archives did not work. Can some one using this
> Stratus supplied pick-up tell me which one is which? I assume the third
wire
> is +12v.
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
> Hugh Mackenzie
>
> CH601HDS
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 2
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>
>
> From: LarryMcFarland <larry(at)macsmachine.com>
> Subject: Re: Stratus-List: Ignition Module Wiring - revisited
>
>
> Hi Hugh,
> I looked at my ignition this evening and find three wires red black and
> green coming from the pickup to a plug connected with the solid state
> module that goes with the flywheel pickup. From it, two wires red and
> black come from the solid state box to my B coil, red to the black with
> white stripe coil wire and the black going to the blue coil wire. I'm
> not sure that you could use the TP45 in replacement of the solid state
> box provided by Stratus.
>
> Larry McFarland 601HDS at www.macsmachine.com
>
>
> Hugh & Sherry MacKenzie wrote:
> >
> > I have finally decided to change my secondary ignition module to the
> > TP45 from the Stratus supplied unit. I searched the archives here but
> > did not find any definitive info on the coding of the three wires
> > coming from the Stratus supplied flywheel pick-up.
> >
> > Here is what I found in the archives:
> >
> > Coil + goes to TP45 B terminal
> >
> > Coil goes to TP45 C terminal
> >
> > Magnetic pick-up + (usually a red wire) goes to TP45 G
> >
> > Magnetic pick-up (usually a white wire) goes to TP45 W
> >
> > The magnetic pick-up I have has three wires, Red, White and Black. The
> > suggestions above from the archives did not work. Can some one using
> > this Stratus supplied pick-up tell me which one is which? I assume the
> > third wire is +12v.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Hugh Mackenzie
> >
> > CH601HDS
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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| From: | "Hugh & Sherry MacKenzie" <hugs.mackenzie(at)sympatico.ca> |
| Subject: | Ignition Module Wiring - revisited |
Thanks to everyone for the responses so far.
Is the second pick-up people are putting in the distributor the same as the
original (i.e. something I can pick-up at NAPA)?
Also, is the second pick-up easily installed in place of the original
ignition module, or is there some mechanical work that needs to be done?
I am some what reluctant to replace the primary ignition since it has been
running fine for years, hence my trying to get the TP-45 working with the
existing flywheel pick-up. However, I am not exactly sure what part of the
secondary ignition is actually causing the problem. If a second pick-up
installs easily in the distributor, then I guess that might be the simplest
path.
Thanks, Hugh
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-stratus-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-stratus-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Hinde, Frank
George (Corvallis)
Sent: April 30, 2007 10:58 AM
Subject: RE: Stratus-List: Ignition Module Wiring - revisited
Yes this is the first time I have heared of somebobody trying this.
Besides, last time I was standing in Mykal's shop there was a little
pile of flywheel pickups that ther labelled "bad" So I would not be
surprised if using the TP45 is not replacing the unreliable part anyway.
The Twin TP 45 system builds two subaru pickups into the distributor,
each of which drive a TP 45 (same as the GM 4 pin module).
Of course you need a second pickup. I happen to have one if you need it.
Frank
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-stratus-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-stratus-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of
LarryMcFarland
Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2007 6:28 PM
Subject: Re: Stratus-List: Ignition Module Wiring - revisited
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| From: | LarryMcFarland <larry(at)macsmachine.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Ignition Module Wiring - revisited |
Hugh,
The second pickup can be had as an LX600 from NAPA Auto Parts. They're
about $60.00, but very durable.
The addition of a second pickup in the distributor requires removal of
the Nippondenso module (replacing it with two TP45 NAPA modules)
locating them on the firewall. The disk that holds the pickup has to be
removed from the distributor and drilled and tapped for the second
pickup or a new disk made for the installation. Both pair of wires are
lead back to the firewall to the TP45s. Each has a IC107 coil mounted
on the firewall and the bolt pattern for the coil can support the TP45s
as seen in the links below.
http://www.macsmachine.com/images/electrical/full/TP45mounts.gif
http://www.macsmachine.com/images/electrical/full/dualdizzy2.gif
If you decide to do the dual ignition pickup within the distributor, let
me know and I'll send you the information for
the disk size, material, locating the holes and tap data. The disk is
fussy work but not that hard to do. If you need a disk
I can turn one for you if you decide this is what you need.
Larry McFarland
Hugh & Sherry MacKenzie wrote:
>
> Thanks to everyone for the responses so far.
>
> Is the second pick-up people are putting in the distributor the same as the
> original (i.e. something I can pick-up at NAPA)?
>
> Also, is the second pick-up easily installed in place of the original
> ignition module, or is there some mechanical work that needs to be done?
>
> I am some what reluctant to replace the primary ignition since it has been
> running fine for years, hence my trying to get the TP-45 working with the
> existing flywheel pick-up. However, I am not exactly sure what part of the
> secondary ignition is actually causing the problem. If a second pick-up
> installs easily in the distributor, then I guess that might be the simplest
> path.
>
> Thanks, Hugh
>
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| Subject: | Ignition Module Wiring - revisited |
| From: | "Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis)" <frank.hinde(at)hp.com> |
As I said, I have never heard of anyone using the crank pickup to drive
a TP45. The second problem is although your existing ignition is working
fine right now, you only have to have you primamry coil winding
resistance drop a little bit and it will fry the original soob amplifier
chip. They are notoriously feeble and they fail without warning!
The dual pickup is the way to go. You will need a second subaru pickup
(the pickup part does not fail) and pull all the guts out of the
distributor and make a new base plate...If Larry can turn you one up
that will be the simplest way...For half a days work this will be the
most profitable thing you can do to improve reliablilty...
Well that's assuming your valve guides don't fall out of the heads
...But don't get me going...:)
Frank
601 HDS 400 hours...Sold
RV7a 150 hours and WOOOHOOOO!...this thing is Fast..And has a Lycoming
in it!
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-stratus-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-stratus-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Hugh &
Sherry MacKenzie
Sent: Monday, April 30, 2007 5:32 PM
Subject: FW: Stratus-List: Ignition Module Wiring - revisited
-->
Thanks to everyone for the responses so far.
Is the second pick-up people are putting in the distributor the same as
the original (i.e. something I can pick-up at NAPA)?
Also, is the second pick-up easily installed in place of the original
ignition module, or is there some mechanical work that needs to be done?
I am some what reluctant to replace the primary ignition since it has
been running fine for years, hence my trying to get the TP-45 working
with the existing flywheel pick-up. However, I am not exactly sure what
part of the secondary ignition is actually causing the problem. If a
second pick-up installs easily in the distributor, then I guess that
might be the simplest path.
Thanks, Hugh
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-stratus-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-stratus-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Hinde,
Frank George (Corvallis)
Sent: April 30, 2007 10:58 AM
Subject: RE: Stratus-List: Ignition Module Wiring - revisited
Yes this is the first time I have heared of somebobody trying this.
Besides, last time I was standing in Mykal's shop there was a little
pile of flywheel pickups that ther labelled "bad" So I would not be
surprised if using the TP45 is not replacing the unreliable part anyway.
The Twin TP 45 system builds two subaru pickups into the distributor,
each of which drive a TP 45 (same as the GM 4 pin module).
Of course you need a second pickup. I happen to have one if you need it.
Frank
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-stratus-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-stratus-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of
LarryMcFarland
Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2007 6:28 PM
Subject: Re: Stratus-List: Ignition Module Wiring - revisited
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| From: | LarryMcFarland <larry(at)macsmachine.com> |
Hi Guys,
Some time ago, there was an article that featured a 601 with a Subaru
that had a bulkhead just inside the cowl that blocked air that would go
over the
engine. I'm not sure if any air was blocked below, but doubt it. Anyway,
there's been more than several days that I'd like to have been flying
with a nice
overcast but there were thin spots with rain and have been reluctant to
expose
my plugs and ignition to moisture of that sort. The fellow that did the
bulkhead
said his engine ran better and that he didn't have to worry about
drowning his
plugs in a downpour.
Sounds good, but how many of you have done the same
or experienced fouled plugs getting into the rain inadvertently.
I expect this protected his belt drive as well.
Any opinions or experiences among you on this?
Larry McFarland 601HDS at www.macsmachine.com
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis)" <frank.hinde(at)hp.com> |
Didn't fly much in the rain with my Soob Zodiac, but the RV is IFR and
has seen a LOT of rain. it is also aircooled...Result is the wires and
plugs get the direct onslaught of the water...Never even missed. and I
use automotive leads and spark plugs.
As to the Soob, I would think as long as the distributor cap is in good
condition and well sealed it should not be a problem.
Frank
Zodiac 400 hours
RV 7a (IO 360) 160 hours
________________________________
From: owner-stratus-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-stratus-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Don Walker
Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2007 3:38 AM
Subject: Re: Stratus-List: Subaru owners
Hmm. Never thought about that problem. However, when I have gotten into
the rain on a few occasions, I never had any problem with plugs or
ignition. the ignition components seem pretty well sealed to me. It is
unlikely to penetrate the distributor, I think. Maybe a jacket or
deflector around the tp-45s would ease the mind, depending where they
are mounted. I think mine will stay dry mounted high on the firewall. I
doubt it is a real problem, but I have never drown my plugs. I was more
concerned about my prop tips with the composite edge, which I now cover
neatly with foil tape.
don walker HDS-TD 405 hrs.
Bryan Martin wrote:
I put a sheet of aluminum just behind the cowl opening to
deflect more air down over the oil pan in hopes of keeping my oil a
little cooler. It seems to help a little. I don't know if it helps keep
the rain off the plugs since I haven't flown in heavy rain.
On Jun 6, 2007, at 7:54 PM, LarryMcFarland wrote:
Hi Guys,
Some time ago, there was an article that featured a 601
with a Subaru
that had a bulkhead just inside the cowl that blocked
air that would go over the
engine. I'm not sure if any air was blocked below, but
doubt it. Anyway,
there's been more than several days that I'd like to
have been flying with a nice
overcast but there were thin spots with rain and have
been reluctant to expose
my plugs and ignition to moisture of that sort. The
fellow that did the bulkhead
said his engine ran better and that he didn't have to
worry about drowning his
plugs in a downpour.
Sounds good, but how many of you have done the same
or experienced fouled plugs getting into the rain
inadvertently.
I expect this protected his belt drive as well.
Any opinions or experiences among you on this?
Larry McFarland 601HDS at www.macsmachine.com
<http://www.macsmachine.com/>
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| From: | LarryMcFarland <larry(at)macsmachine.com> |
| Subject: | in-flight adjustable props |
Hi guys,
Is anyone flying a Stratus Subaru with an in-flight adjustable prop with
any success?
I understand that a re-drive may have some adverse effect on these things,
but I'd still like to know if it's doable, practical, safe or not.
Warp Drive has an in-flight adjustable in development, but they've made no
further comments.
Larry McFarland
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | LarryMcFarland <larry(at)macsmachine.com> |
| Subject: | in-flight adjustable props |
Hi guys,
Is anyone flying a Stratus Subaru with an in-flight adjustable prop with
any success?
I understand that a re-drive may have some adverse effect on these things,
but I'd still like to know if it's doable, practical, safe or not.
Warp Drive has an in-flight adjustable in development, but they've made no
further comments.
Larry McFarland
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | in-flight adjustable props |
| From: | "Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis)" <frank.hinde(at)hp.com> |
I have no data Larry but I would doubt if the cost is worth it for the
performance gains you would see in a Zodiac.
If you have a ground adjustable prop you can do is to ground adjust
pitch and measure your cruise speed increase vs fuel burn data.
I.e set your cruise up at say 5000 ft, pull your fuel burn down to 5GPH
and see what speed you get over a 3 way course using one of the online
calculators.
Do this for various pitches and see what benefit you will get form being
able to increase the pitch in flight.
My personal guess is that it won't be worth it an a draggy airplane like
the Zodiac.
Now in the RV...its a different story..:)
Frank
601HDS modified Stratus 400 hours
RV 7a IO360 Constant speed 200 hours
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-stratus-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-stratus-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of
LarryMcFarland
Sent: Monday, August 06, 2007 9:25 AM
Subject: Stratus-List: in-flight adjustable props
-->
Hi guys,
Is anyone flying a Stratus Subaru with an in-flight adjustable prop with
any success?
I understand that a re-drive may have some adverse effect on these
things, but I'd still like to know if it's doable, practical, safe or
not.
Warp Drive has an in-flight adjustable in development, but they've made
no further comments.
Larry McFarland
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | LarryMcFarland <larry(at)macsmachine.com> |
| Subject: | Re: in-flight adjustable props |
Hi Frank,
I agree with you entirely, but the reason I'd like an adjustable is for
the low end. I fly with my pitch at 17-degrees and the performance
is very acceptable, but getting out of short grass strips with long corn
is sometimes a concern. Being able to put it into low gear would
be the best value to me. The high end is not at issue, but if I could
adjust to 18 or 19-degrees, it might be interesting to know where
the prop begins to labor. My worry is that some of these in-flight
adjustable props really don't like re-drive harmonics.
Larry McFarland 601HDS at www.macsmachine.com
Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis) wrote:
>
> I have no data Larry but I would doubt if the cost is worth it for the
> performance gains you would see in a Zodiac.
>
> If you have a ground adjustable prop you can do is to ground adjust
> pitch and measure your cruise speed increase vs fuel burn data.
>
> I.e set your cruise up at say 5000 ft, pull your fuel burn down to 5GPH
> and see what speed you get over a 3 way course using one of the online
> calculators.
>
> Do this for various pitches and see what benefit you will get form being
> able to increase the pitch in flight.
>
> My personal guess is that it won't be worth it an a draggy airplane like
> the Zodiac.
>
> Now in the RV...its a different story..:)
>
> Frank
>
> 601HDS modified Stratus 400 hours
> RV 7a IO360 Constant speed 200 hours
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-stratus-list-server(at)matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-stratus-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of
> LarryMcFarland
> Sent: Monday, August 06, 2007 9:25 AM
> To: zenith-list; stratus-list
> Subject: Stratus-List: in-flight adjustable props
>
> -->
>
> Hi guys,
> Is anyone flying a Stratus Subaru with an in-flight adjustable prop with
> any success?
> I understand that a re-drive may have some adverse effect on these
> things, but I'd still like to know if it's doable, practical, safe or
> not.
>
> Warp Drive has an in-flight adjustable in development, but they've made
> no further comments.
>
> Larry McFarland
>
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | in-flight adjustable props |
| From: | "Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis)" <frank.hinde(at)hp.com> |
Hey Larry,
I did try 14 deg (if I remember correctly) and I did not gain anything
in terms of cruise performance above that pitch. This would make sense
for a relatively draggy airplane, i.e for any particular pitch the
relative angle of attack reduces with increases in speed and prop
efficiency decreases. Thus as speed goes up you want to increase pitch.
For an airplane that only cruises at 100mph anyway then further
increases in pitch are unlikely to help much...except that RPM will
reduce which may aid a bit.
Anyway, you could still do the same experiment and see how much your
short field performance increases and what it does to your cruise speed
as you reduce pitch.
There is a bit of getting used to an engine that is turning faster than
your used to in cruise but that's a just a "head thing"..:)
Certainly 11 degrees it makes the HDS a rocket ship off the ground, but
then your stuck in low gear.
How short is your short strip?
I was working out of 1600ft grass with big trees at the end of a
displaced threashold and 14 deg with the same engine made it quite
comfortable.
If I were in your shoes I would avoid the variable pitch prop...As you
said a few unkowns that would make me nervous.
Of course I'm a little spoiled right now...On a cool morning I see
2600FPM solo at 250MSL...Woohoo!
Frank
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-stratus-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-stratus-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of
LarryMcFarland
Sent: Monday, August 06, 2007 1:21 PM
Subject: Re: Stratus-List: in-flight adjustable props
-->
Hi Frank,
I agree with you entirely, but the reason I'd like an adjustable is for
the low end. I fly with my pitch at 17-degrees and the performance is
very acceptable, but getting out of short grass strips with long corn is
sometimes a concern. Being able to put it into low gear would be the
best value to me. The high end is not at issue, but if I could adjust
to 18 or 19-degrees, it might be interesting to know where the prop
begins to labor. My worry is that some of these in-flight adjustable
props really don't like re-drive harmonics.
Larry McFarland 601HDS at www.macsmachine.com
Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis) wrote:
> -->
>
> I have no data Larry but I would doubt if the cost is worth it for the
> performance gains you would see in a Zodiac.
>
> If you have a ground adjustable prop you can do is to ground adjust
> pitch and measure your cruise speed increase vs fuel burn data.
>
> I.e set your cruise up at say 5000 ft, pull your fuel burn down to
> 5GPH and see what speed you get over a 3 way course using one of the
> online calculators.
>
> Do this for various pitches and see what benefit you will get form
> being able to increase the pitch in flight.
>
> My personal guess is that it won't be worth it an a draggy airplane
> like the Zodiac.
>
> Now in the RV...its a different story..:)
>
> Frank
>
> 601HDS modified Stratus 400 hours
> RV 7a IO360 Constant speed 200 hours
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-stratus-list-server(at)matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-stratus-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of
> LarryMcFarland
> Sent: Monday, August 06, 2007 9:25 AM
> To: zenith-list; stratus-list
> Subject: Stratus-List: in-flight adjustable props
>
> -->
>
> Hi guys,
> Is anyone flying a Stratus Subaru with an in-flight adjustable prop
> with any success?
> I understand that a re-drive may have some adverse effect on these
> things, but I'd still like to know if it's doable, practical, safe or
> not.
>
> Warp Drive has an in-flight adjustable in development, but they've
> made no further comments.
>
> Larry McFarland
>
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | LarryMcFarland <larry(at)macsmachine.com> |
| Subject: | Re: in-flight adjustable props |
Yes Frank,
Flying at 15-degrees seemed much like being in a slingshot. After the
climb out, the rpm and airspeed stayed pretty much
the same. I eventually got everything faired in nicely and worked up to
17-degrees. Lightly loaded at 3500 feet the top end is 133 mph.
Cruise is 120 and it sounds better with that pitch and burns 4 gph. Go
faster and it burns 5. The flying I do is more
about access than destination and there are two strips that are called
"1500 ft" with tall corn each end. Mowing is questionable.
I get off concrete in 800 ft with a full header tank, but not with a
passenger. Does make one feel a little nervous trying to drop over the
corn
and then worry about running into it at the other end on takeoff. I
don't like flying the HDS at less than 17-degrees so the in-flight
adjustable is
an intriguing consideration for shorter fields.
The next project will likely be a gyro. Some are shortening lift off and
using higher
inertia blades to round out the flight envelope. I attended Mentone
this past week for the rotary aircraft gathering and it was interesting.
Didn't bother to go to Oshkosh this year because innovation has
essentially been replaced by sales hype.
Thanks,
Larry McFarland 601HDS at www.macsmachine.com
Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis) wrote:
>
> Hey Larry,
>
> I did try 14 deg (if I remember correctly) and I did not gain anything
> in terms of cruise performance above that pitch. This would make sense
> for a relatively draggy airplane, i.e for any particular pitch the
> relative angle of attack reduces with increases in speed and prop
> efficiency decreases. Thus as speed goes up you want to increase pitch.
>
> For an airplane that only cruises at 100mph anyway then further
> increases in pitch are unlikely to help much...except that RPM will
> reduce which may aid a bit.
>
> Anyway, you could still do the same experiment and see how much your
> short field performance increases and what it does to your cruise speed
> as you reduce pitch.
>
> There is a bit of getting used to an engine that is turning faster than
> your used to in cruise but that's a just a "head thing"..:)
>
> Certainly 11 degrees it makes the HDS a rocket ship off the ground, but
> then your stuck in low gear.
>
> How short is your short strip?
>
> I was working out of 1600ft grass with big trees at the end of a
> displaced threashold and 14 deg with the same engine made it quite
> comfortable.
>
> If I were in your shoes I would avoid the variable pitch prop...As you
> said a few unkowns that would make me nervous.
>
> Of course I'm a little spoiled right now...On a cool morning I see
> 2600FPM solo at 250MSL...Woohoo!
>
> Frank
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-stratus-list-server(at)matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-stratus-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of
> LarryMcFarland
> Sent: Monday, August 06, 2007 1:21 PM
> To: stratus-list(at)matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Stratus-List: in-flight adjustable props
>
> -->
>
> Hi Frank,
> I agree with you entirely, but the reason I'd like an adjustable is for
> the low end. I fly with my pitch at 17-degrees and the performance is
> very acceptable, but getting out of short grass strips with long corn is
> sometimes a concern. Being able to put it into low gear would be the
> best value to me. The high end is not at issue, but if I could adjust
> to 18 or 19-degrees, it might be interesting to know where the prop
> begins to labor. My worry is that some of these in-flight adjustable
> props really don't like re-drive harmonics.
>
> Larry McFarland 601HDS at www.macsmachine.com
>
> Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis) wrote:
>
>> -->
>>
>> I have no data Larry but I would doubt if the cost is worth it for the
>>
>
>
>> performance gains you would see in a Zodiac.
>>
>> If you have a ground adjustable prop you can do is to ground adjust
>> pitch and measure your cruise speed increase vs fuel burn data.
>>
>> I.e set your cruise up at say 5000 ft, pull your fuel burn down to
>> 5GPH and see what speed you get over a 3 way course using one of the
>> online calculators.
>>
>> Do this for various pitches and see what benefit you will get form
>> being able to increase the pitch in flight.
>>
>> My personal guess is that it won't be worth it an a draggy airplane
>> like the Zodiac.
>>
>> Now in the RV...its a different story..:)
>>
>> Frank
>>
>> 601HDS modified Stratus 400 hours
>> RV 7a IO360 Constant speed 200 hours
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: owner-stratus-list-server(at)matronics.com
>> [mailto:owner-stratus-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of
>> LarryMcFarland
>> Sent: Monday, August 06, 2007 9:25 AM
>> To: zenith-list; stratus-list
>> Subject: Stratus-List: in-flight adjustable props
>>
>> -->
>>
>> Hi guys,
>> Is anyone flying a Stratus Subaru with an in-flight adjustable prop
>> with any success?
>> I understand that a re-drive may have some adverse effect on these
>> things, but I'd still like to know if it's doable, practical, safe or
>> not.
>>
>> Warp Drive has an in-flight adjustable in development, but they've
>> made no further comments.
>>
>> Larry McFarland
>>
>>
>>
>>
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | in-flight adjustable props |
| From: | "Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis)" <frank.hinde(at)hp.com> |
Sounds like you got some significant drag reduction to work on the HDS
there Larry.
Good for you.
I was tempted to start doing this work but realised my priorities had a
changed a bit from when I built the HDS...I.e IFR, aerobatics and fast
cross country.
Would have been a fun project though.
Cheers
Frank
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-stratus-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-stratus-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of
LarryMcFarland
Sent: Monday, August 06, 2007 3:18 PM
Subject: Re: Stratus-List: in-flight adjustable props
-->
Yes Frank,
Flying at 15-degrees seemed much like being in a slingshot. After the
climb out, the rpm and airspeed stayed pretty much the same. I
eventually got everything faired in nicely and worked up to 17-degrees.
Lightly loaded at 3500 feet the top end is 133 mph.
Cruise is 120 and it sounds better with that pitch and burns 4 gph. Go
faster and it burns 5. The flying I do is more about access than
destination and there are two strips that are called "1500 ft" with tall
corn each end. Mowing is questionable.
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Don Walker <d3dw(at)sbcglobal.net> |
| Subject: | Re: in-flight adjustable props |
When I started flying the HDS in 1999, I found very quickly that keeping the bird
light is the key. It didn't take long to see that the "published" or popular
prop setting weren't for me. Experiementing from the gitgo, I set it at 17 and
found no tendency to feel loaded at all. that let me climb at 1800 fpm initial
clomg with an all out speed of 125. that was with a 612 lb empty weight and
loaded light...150 lb. pilot. With this I was off the ground and climbing like
heck after 450Ft. take off roll. No problem getting off anywhere. Reiner
told me my Stratus was putting out 113 hp. Of course I wrung that engine out
pretty quickly with the valve guide problems. don
Yes Frank,
Flying at 15-degrees seemed much like being in a slingshot. After the
climb out, the rpm and airspeed stayed pretty much
the same. I eventually got everything faired in nicely and worked up to
17-degrees. Lightly loaded at 3500 feet the top end is 133 mph.
Cruise is 120 and it sounds better with that pitch and burns 4 gph. Go
faster and it burns 5. The flying I do is more
about access than destination and there are two strips that are called
"1500 ft" with tall corn each end. Mowing is questionable.
I get off concrete in 800 ft with a full header tank, but not with a
passenger. Does make one feel a little nervous trying to drop over the
corn
and then worry about running into it at the other end on takeoff. I
don't like flying the HDS at less than 17-degrees so the in-flight
adjustable is
an intriguing consideration for shorter fields.
The next project will likely be a gyro. Some are shortening lift off and
using higher
inertia blades to round out the flight envelope. I attended Mentone
this past week for the rotary aircraft gathering and it was interesting.
Didn't bother to go to Oshkosh this year because innovation has
essentially been replaced by sales hype.
Thanks,
Larry McFarland 601HDS at www.macsmachine.com
Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis) wrote:
>
> Hey Larry,
>
> I did try 14 deg (if I remember correctly) and I did not gain anything
> in terms of cruise performance above that pitch. This would make sense
> for a relatively draggy airplane, i.e for any particular pitch the
> relative angle of attack reduces with increases in speed and prop
> efficiency decreases. Thus as speed goes up you want to increase pitch.
>
> For an airplane that only cruises at 100mph anyway then further
> increases in pitch are unlikely to help much...except that RPM will
> reduce which may aid a bit.
>
> Anyway, you could still do the same experiment and see how much your
> short field performance increases and what it does to your cruise speed
> as you reduce pitch.
>
> There is a bit of getting used to an engine that is turning faster than
> your used to in cruise but that's a just a "head thing"..:)
>
> Certainly 11 degrees it makes the HDS a rocket ship off the ground, but
> then your stuck in low gear.
>
> How short is your short strip?
>
> I was working out of 1600ft grass with big trees at the end of a
> displaced threashold and 14 deg with the same engine made it quite
> comfortable.
>
> If I were in your shoes I would avoid the variable pitch prop...As you
> said a few unkowns that would make me nervous.
>
> Of course I'm a little spoiled right now...On a cool morning I see
> 2600FPM solo at 250MSL...Woohoo!
>
> Frank
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-stratus-list-server(at)matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-stratus-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of
> LarryMcFarland
> Sent: Monday, August 06, 2007 1:21 PM
> To: stratus-list(at)matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Stratus-List: in-flight adjustable props
>
> -->
>
> Hi Frank,
> I agree with you entirely, but the reason I'd like an adjustable is for
> the low end. I fly with my pitch at 17-degrees and the performance is
> very acceptable, but getting out of short grass strips with long corn is
> sometimes a concern. Being able to put it into low gear would be the
> best value to me. The high end is not at issue, but if I could adjust
> to 18 or 19-degrees, it might be interesting to know where the prop
> begins to labor. My worry is that some of these in-flight adjustable
> props really don't like re-drive harmonics.
>
> Larry McFarland 601HDS at www.macsmachine.com
>
> Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis) wrote:
>
>> -->
>>
>> I have no data Larry but I would doubt if the cost is worth it for the
>>
>
>
>> performance gains you would see in a Zodiac.
>>
>> If you have a ground adjustable prop you can do is to ground adjust
>> pitch and measure your cruise speed increase vs fuel burn data.
>>
>> I.e set your cruise up at say 5000 ft, pull your fuel burn down to
>> 5GPH and see what speed you get over a 3 way course using one of the
>> online calculators.
>>
>> Do this for various pitches and see what benefit you will get form
>> being able to increase the pitch in flight.
>>
>> My personal guess is that it won't be worth it an a draggy airplane
>> like the Zodiac.
>>
>> Now in the RV...its a different story..:)
>>
>> Frank
>>
>> 601HDS modified Stratus 400 hours
>> RV 7a IO360 Constant speed 200 hours
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: owner-stratus-list-server(at)matronics.com
>> [mailto:owner-stratus-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of
>> LarryMcFarland
>> Sent: Monday, August 06, 2007 9:25 AM
>> To: zenith-list; stratus-list
>> Subject: Stratus-List: in-flight adjustable props
>>
>> -->
>>
>> Hi guys,
>> Is anyone flying a Stratus Subaru with an in-flight adjustable prop
>> with any success?
>> I understand that a re-drive may have some adverse effect on these
>> things, but I'd still like to know if it's doable, practical, safe or
>> not.
>>
>> Warp Drive has an in-flight adjustable in development, but they've
>> made no further comments.
>>
>> Larry McFarland
>>
>>
>>
>>
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Tim Vader" <vadert(at)telusplanet.net> |
| Subject: | Looking for an Stratus EA81 |
Hi
Any one out there have a Stratus EA81 conversion gathering dust. If
you want to get rid of it let me know before I commit to buying one from
Stratus.
Tim Vader
Kitfox IV
Subaru EA81
Calgary, Alberta, Canada
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Replacing Bearings in a Stratus PSRU |
| From: | "Falcon" <crx(at)ubbdev.com> |
Stratus EA-81 conversion, ca. 1999.
I need to replace my PSRU bearings -- these are the two 6207-2RS bearings in the
large hub. To get to them, I think I need to pull the spindle, by loosening
the jam nut on the back of the PSRU. Now, the jam nut is a spanner type, with
four rectangular notches, cut into the perimeter of the nut at 90 degree increments.
Where do I find a wrench that will handle this?
Please note I've also asked the Zenith list, as this is hanging off the nose of
my CH-601 HDS.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=132589#132589
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Andy Fultz" <andynfultz(at)bellsouth.net> |
| Subject: | Replacing Bearings in a Stratus PSRU |
When I ordered my Stratus, they sent the wrenches to work on it (the
reduction) when they shipped my engine. You may want to contact them.
Andy Fultz
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-stratus-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-stratus-list-server(at)matronics.com]On Behalf Of Falcon
Sent: Monday, September 03, 2007 8:47 PM
Subject: Stratus-List: Replacing Bearings in a Stratus PSRU
Stratus EA-81 conversion, ca. 1999.
I need to replace my PSRU bearings -- these are the two 6207-2RS bearings in
the large hub. To get to them, I think I need to pull the spindle, by
loosening the jam nut on the back of the PSRU. Now, the jam nut is a
spanner type, with four rectangular notches, cut into the perimeter of the
nut at 90 degree increments.
Where do I find a wrench that will handle this?
Please note I've also asked the Zenith list, as this is hanging off the nose
of my CH-601 HDS.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=132589#132589
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | LarryMcFarland <larry(at)macsmachine.com> |
| Subject: | water pump anyone? |
Hi Guys,
I decided to buy a water pump for the Stratus Subaru EA-81 as these tend
to fail with some warning, but on their own schedule. So it seemed
prudent to have spare parts, belts, plugs, filters, etc. The EA-81 has
been a great performer with exceptional economy. I ordered a water pump
for $26.00 at my local auto parts store. For the car data, it turned out
not to be the correct one. The pulley (which was not included) was to be
fastened with 4 bolts (not included) and the later than 1984 design
pressed steel impeller is reported to self-destruct at high rpm. I
visited *OReillys auto parts web site and found that the part number
for the correct pump is* *57-1042*. This pump has the preferred cast
impeller, the correct mushroom shaped pulley (attached) and it is listed
for $26.99 less $3.00 core-exchange if you happen to need one.
Data used for both was *Brat 1.8 pickup truck 1982-1987*.
Another source part number for it is 53105, GMB water pump.
Both are built by Cardone Industries.
Stratus only provides Atsugi as "Specification" for the pump which is
interpreted to mean it has "its own" characteristics.
No one flies 100 horsepower pound for pound as inexpensively as the
Subaru EA-81.
Tuck this info into your Stratus manual or reference information and
avoid the 48 hours of bewilderment.
Happy flying guys,
Larry McFarland 601HDS at www.macsmachine.com
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Jim and Lucy <jpollard(at)ciaccess.com> |
| Subject: | Re: water pump anyone? |
This was probably just a fluke but I bought a pump making sure it
had the right impeller and all. A year later when I put it on I
noticed the belts did not line up very well. I measured the old
and new pumps distance between the mounting gasket face and the
center of the pulley and there was a 3/16 of an inch difference.
It was too late to take it back so I had to buy another and it
was fine. May be good to measure before you cant take it back
since you may be keeping it on your spare parts shelf for a while.
Jim Pollard
>
>
>LarryMcFarland wrote:
>
>Hi Guys,
>
>I decided to buy a water pump for the Stratus Subaru EA-81 as these tend
>to fail with some warning, but on their own schedule. So it seemed
>prudent to have spare parts, belts, plugs, filters, etc. The EA-81 has
>been a great performer with exceptional economy. I ordered a water pump
>for $26.00 at my local auto parts store. For the car data, it turned out
>not to be the correct one. The pulley (which was not included) was to be
>fastened with 4 bolts (not included) and the later than 1984 design
>pressed steel impeller is reported to self-destruct at high rpm.
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | water pump anyone? |
| From: | "Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis)" <frank.hinde(at)hp.com> |
Oh don't you just love a naysayer...but here goes..:)
Your last statement about the economy. I don't think you can really say
that Larry until you know how long Stratus lasts.
I mean if you get 2500 hours like you will from a 100HP airplane motor
then yes maybe your right...But do we know this yet?
Secondly, if your simply comparing fuel costs then airplane motors (at
least fuel injected ones) can be run more economically than the Stratus
simply because you can run the engine lean or peak exhaust as
temperature.
My 190Hp IO360 will normally run 10GPH but that can be got doen to 7gph
running on the lean side of peak EGT...this has a significant effect on
fuel caosts and as almost all airplane motors can be run on auto fuel
then the comparison could be a lot closer than you might think.
Sure the airplane motors cost a lot more new but if it lasts 3 times as
long how do the numers stack up then?
On the whole though, with sorted valve guides, the Stratus setup is a
sweet little motor.
All the best
Frank
601HDS 400 hours
RV7a IO360 21o hours in one year...YIKES!
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-stratus-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-stratus-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of
LarryMcFarland
Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2007 4:46 PM
Subject: Stratus-List: water pump anyone?
-->
Hi Guys,
I decided to buy a water pump for the Stratus Subaru EA-81 as these tend
to fail with some warning, but on their own schedule. So it seemed
prudent to have spare parts, belts, plugs, filters, etc. The EA-81 has
been a great performer with exceptional economy. I ordered a water pump
for $26.00 at my local auto parts store. For the car data, it turned out
not to be the correct one. The pulley (which was not included) was to be
fastened with 4 bolts (not included) and the later than 1984 design
pressed steel impeller is reported to self-destruct at high rpm. I
visited *O'Reilly's auto parts web site and found that the part number
for the correct pump is* *57-1042*. This pump has the preferred cast
impeller, the correct mushroom shaped pulley (attached) and it is listed
for $26.99 less $3.00 core-exchange if you happen to need one.
Data used for both was "*Brat 1.8 pickup truck 1982-1987*".
Another source part number for it is 53105, GMB water pump.
Both are built by Cardone Industries.
Stratus only provides Atsugi as "Specification" for the pump which is
interpreted to mean it has "its own" characteristics.
No one flies 100 horsepower pound for pound as inexpensively as the
Subaru EA-81.
Tuck this info into your Stratus manual or reference information and
avoid the 48 hours of bewilderment.
Happy flying guys,
Larry McFarland 601HDS at www.macsmachine.com
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "gary" <gkrysztopik(at)satx.rr.com> |
| Subject: | water pump anyone? |
Thanks for the info Larry!
Gary
2:55 PM
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Jim Weston" <k4cod(at)bellsouth.net> |
| Subject: | water pump anyone? |
Hi Everyone,
I haven't posted anything here in quite a while, so I thought that I'd add
my two cents of info.
As Larry found, it is apparently a good general rule of thumb to tell the
auto parts stores that you are looking for engine parts for the Subaru Brat
pickup truck. I found that if I told them it was for a 1984 Brat I always
got the correct parts; at least so far. I had the engine apart a few years
ago for a striped out engine thru bolt problem, so decided to replace all of
the bearings and seals while I was in there. By ordering for the 84 Brat,
everything fit. I did have to get slightly undersized bearings since the
rebuild shop had apparently turned down the crank. Hope this helps someone.
Jim Weston
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-stratus-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-stratus-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of LarryMcFarland
Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2007 7:46 PM
Subject: Stratus-List: water pump anyone?
Hi Guys,
I decided to buy a water pump for the Stratus Subaru EA-81 as these tend
to fail with some warning, but on their own schedule. So it seemed
prudent to have spare parts, belts, plugs, filters, etc. The EA-81 has
been a great performer with exceptional economy. I ordered a water pump
for $26.00 at my local auto parts store. For the car data, it turned out
not to be the correct one. The pulley (which was not included) was to be
fastened with 4 bolts (not included) and the later than 1984 design
pressed steel impeller is reported to self-destruct at high rpm. I
visited *O'Reilly's auto parts web site and found that the part number
for the correct pump is* *57-1042*. This pump has the preferred cast
impeller, the correct mushroom shaped pulley (attached) and it is listed
for $26.99 less $3.00 core-exchange if you happen to need one.
Data used for both was "*Brat 1.8 pickup truck 1982-1987*".
Another source part number for it is 53105, GMB water pump.
Both are built by Cardone Industries.
Stratus only provides Atsugi as "Specification" for the pump which is
interpreted to mean it has "its own" characteristics.
No one flies 100 horsepower pound for pound as inexpensively as the
Subaru EA-81.
Tuck this info into your Stratus manual or reference information and
avoid the 48 hours of bewilderment.
Happy flying guys,
Larry McFarland 601HDS at www.macsmachine.com
--
8:36 AM
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | LarryMcFarland <larry(at)macsmachine.com> |
| Subject: | Re: water pump anyone? |
Hi Frank,
I dont think theres anything to prevent the EA-81 Subaru from reaching
2500 hours with proper maintenance. Ive witnessed several of $22K certified
engines at our airport going thru overhaul at $7 to $9K, getting new
magnetos
at $1K and requiring other parts that are just breathtakingly expensive.
The Subaru needs about $500 parts to do an overhaul. Im able to
selectively burn
3.5 to 4.5 gal per hour of 87-octane at <$3/gal. Our fields 100LL is
over $4.50 gal.
You only have to do the numbers to see the economy of this engine.
I agree that the $600 heads rework by Ram Performance was necessary for
peace of mind.
The most satisfying part of the Subaru is its very quiet, relative to
my friends RV6 certified
air-cooled engine. The OHV Subaru has a distinctive sound that says smooth.
Recent data shows the 100 hp Subaru has as much or more hp per pound
than 100 hp certified engines.
Step up to a $14K 3300 or a $22K 0360 and its a whole other story, The
$7K paid for the Stratus
engine is matched by a low price for any part on it, and its mostly
locally available. Spark plugs are still $2.25.
What more could one ask of it, perhaps, just be able to go faster?
Everything has an appropriate price.
Then, it becomes your preference.
Im very pleased with the Stratus Subaru and I'd do it again in a heartbeat.
Larry McFarland 601HDS at www.macsmachine.com
Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis) wrote:
>
> Oh don't you just love a naysayer...but here goes..:)
> Your last statement about the economy. I don't think you can really say
> that Larry until you know how long Stratus lasts.
>
> Secondly, if your simply comparing fuel costs then airplane motors (at
> least fuel injected ones) can be run more economically than the Stratus
> simply because you can run the engine lean or peak exhaust as
> temperature.
>
> My 190Hp IO360 will normally run 10GPH but that can be got doen to 7gph
> running on the lean side of peak EGT...this has a significant effect on
> fuel caosts and as almost all airplane motors can be run on auto fuel
> then the comparison could be a lot closer than you might think.
>
> On the whole though, with sorted valve guides, the Stratus setup is a
> sweet little motor.
>
> All the best
>
> Frank
> 601HDS 400 hours
> RV7a IO360 21o hours in one year...YIKES!
>
>
> No one flies 100 horsepower pound for pound as inexpensively as the
> Subaru EA-81.
>
> Happy flying guys,
>
> Larry McFarland 601HDS at www.macsmachine.com
>
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | water pump anyone? |
| From: | "Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis)" <frank.hinde(at)hp.com> |
Ok so airplane engines can run the same fuel as you do...I run 92 octane
in my IO360...Works fine. Technology is also improving. As you know a
certified engine in an experimental is no longer certified. As such
there are several options for running aftermarket electronic ignitions.
Magnetos are rapidly going the same way as the vacuum pump..I.e the
trash can.
But your right an overhaul will cost as much as the Stratus did in the
first place.
But, if I want to fly at Zodiac speeds (OK that's not fair as the RV is
a much slippier airframe) I bet I could do it at about 5GPH...which is
what I ran my HDS at...I.e I think fuel costs are very similar...If I
want to go fast I can almost get 30 miles per gallon...I never saw that
in the Zodiac...Oh and I have much larger tanks so very often I would be
refueling the HDS at my destination whereas I can come back home in the
RV to refuel from my gas cans. (note I usually get aroung 26MPG at about
180mph).
Interesting you can run 87oct...My Stratus was not happy on 87, I would
get run on when I turned off the ignition which went away when I swapped
to 92 octane.
I don't dissagree that the Stratus unit is a neat little package (if you
ignore the valve guide debacle...and I'm being kind here and the fact
the ignitions are really not up to the task). Remember too that that
this motor cost me nearly 1.5* what I paid for it to find the solution
to the valve guide issue.
Is Stratus still providing engine packages or is he just selling the
redrive these days?
Longevity?..I don't know...How long will those anodised cogs last? My
only point is we have not seen really high time Stratus's (that I'm
aware of)...have any of them gone over 1000 hours yet?
The other part to this debate is that the airplane engine experimental
market does not really cater to the 100HP range. The RV's being so
popular has spun off a whole 'nother industry around building 180+hp
experimental only motors...I.e new engines that are never certified.
That market has not materialised for the 100hp range so your sorta stuck
with whats out there and I suspect parts are spendy.
As to smoothness..Hmm, if you get the same powered 200HP Eggenfelner
soob package without the silencer (the Stratus has a silencer too) then
the roar is pretty hideous...Maybe it takes a lot of noise to make a lot
of power...The airplane motors are not silenced remember.
I would say my IO360 has a similar vibration level to the Stratus, but
without the rum-rum noise the Stratus had..Not a big deal though.
As you say a lot of personal preference. I spent so much time and money
making the Stratus reliable that I personally would have been better off
sticking a Rotax in it. If I were doing it again I would go to ram
Performance...More money but reliability is everything in an airplane.
I'm really glad to finally see the Stratus as a reliable package and
glad to have been a part of making that happen, it's a shame that
Stratus took no responsibility for the valve guide issue and left it up
to us builders to figure it out (and thankfully Ram Performance came on
the scene). If the Stratus had been a certified motor the FAA would have
grounded all of them!
Heres to longevity!
Frank
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-stratus-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-stratus-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of
LarryMcFarland
Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2007 7:46 AM
Subject: Re: Stratus-List: water pump anyone?
-->
Hi Frank,
I don't think there's anything to prevent the EA-81 Subaru from reaching
2500 hours with proper maintenance. I've witnessed several of $22K
certified engines" at our airport going thru overhaul at $7 to $9K,
getting new magnetos at $1K and requiring other parts that are just
breathtakingly expensive.
The Subaru needs about $500 parts to do an overhaul. I'm able to
selectively burn
3.5 to 4.5 gal per hour of 87-octane at <$3/gal. Our field's 100LL is
over $4.50 gal.
You only have to do the numbers to see the economy of this engine.
I agree that the $600 heads rework by Ram Performance was necessary for
peace of mind.
The most satisfying part of the Subaru is it's very quiet, relative to
my friends RV6 certified air-cooled engine. The OHV Subaru has a
distinctive sound that says smooth.
Recent data shows the 100 hp Subaru has as much or more hp per pound
than 100 hp certified engines.
Step up to a $14K 3300 or a $22K 0360 and it's a whole other story, The
$7K paid for the Stratus engine is matched by a low price for any part
on it, and it's mostly locally available. Spark plugs are still $2.25.
What more could one ask of it, perhaps, just be able to go faster?
Everything has an appropriate price.
Then, it becomes your preference.
I'm very pleased with the Stratus Subaru and I'd do it again in a
heartbeat.
Larry McFarland 601HDS at www.macsmachine.com
Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis) wrote:
> -->
>
> Oh don't you just love a naysayer...but here goes..:) Your last
> statement about the economy. I don't think you can really say that
> Larry until you know how long Stratus lasts.
>
> Secondly, if your simply comparing fuel costs then airplane motors (at
> least fuel injected ones) can be run more economically than the
> Stratus simply because you can run the engine lean or peak exhaust as
> temperature.
>
> My 190Hp IO360 will normally run 10GPH but that can be got doen to
> 7gph running on the lean side of peak EGT...this has a significant
> effect on fuel caosts and as almost all airplane motors can be run on
> auto fuel then the comparison could be a lot closer than you might
think.
>
> On the whole though, with sorted valve guides, the Stratus setup is a
> sweet little motor.
>
> All the best
>
> Frank
> 601HDS 400 hours
> RV7a IO360 21o hours in one year...YIKES!
>
>
> No one flies 100 horsepower pound for pound as inexpensively as the
> Subaru EA-81.
>
> Happy flying guys,
>
> Larry McFarland 601HDS at www.macsmachine.com
>
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
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| Subject: | Re: Replacing Bearings in a Stratus PSRU |
| From: | "Falcon" <crx(at)ubbdev.com> |
This is a great community of builders. Gary, (gkrysztopik) heard of my plight
with the PSRU bearings, but didn't realize 'falcon' hangered the Zenith just two
hangers down from his.
I stopped by his hanger this afternoon, and described my situation -- interesting,
he noted, he'd read about someone else with the same problem on the Matronics
list. 'Falcon', I asked?
Yes!
That's me.
Gary loaned me his PSRU eccentric adjustment wrenches and spreader bolts. And
I'm happy to say I've pretty much broken the redrive down into its constituent
components.
The new bearings are in the freezer, and the sprocket goes in the oven sometime
next week, as I find the time to swap the old for the new.
The wobbling prop hub was indeed caused by a failing front bearing. Check your
belts. I suspect mine was wound a little tight.
Thanks to Gary and to Larry MacFarland for keeping us very, very happy with our
Stratus conversion.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=133686#133686
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| From: | LarryMcFarland <larry(at)macsmachine.com> |
| Subject: | Stratus Subaru seasonal mixture |
Hi guys,
Still in test mode, (mentally,) I thought it best to confess my latest
flub so others might learn or gain insight.
September 29 I was at the airport at 7:00 a.m. Larry Dorgan (a friend
and 701 Builder) arrived shortly after and we took off toward Burlington
into a decent headwind. A thin overcast with sunshine provided a soft
light patchwork of brown and green fields and we had smooth 75-degree
air. At 2500 feet and 20 minutes out, water and oil temps crept to my
EIS safe set points 220-coolant and 250-oil. We got a warning light. I
let off 4900 rpm and temps subsided temporarily. The heat muff was
moving cool air, so that wasnt the problem. We were both disappointed,
but decided to safely return to MLI and forego this years Open House at
Zenith. At home, I re-visited the Bing Manual and realized Id noted
178 and 2.78 jets are for summer. I was still flying with the leaner
176 and 2.76 winter jets. These are intended for a winter-air-soaked
engine that could tolerate a warmer mixture. My summer jets should
have been 178 and 2.78 for a richer mixture to reduce engine heat so
coolant and oil can do their part. After lunch, I drove back to the
airport and re-jetted the Bings to 178 and 2.78. Id mixed assumptions
about thin hot air versus thick cold air, which are less a concern. The
percentage of engine heat output reduced by a richer mixture in summer
is important. EGTS reduced from 1425 by 50 degrees should allow coolant
and oil temps go lower by similar numbers. The afternoon wind was
blowing pretty hard so confirmation of this would be left to the next
good day.
This good day, I took flying gear to the hangar to check numbers for the
178 and 2.78 jets. I took off from 27, climbed to 4000 ft and maintained
4900 rpm for 15 minutes. This was repeated at 2500 feet. Coolant
temperatures never went above 197-deg F, Oil remained at 230-deg F, CHTs
read 203-deg F and EGTs stayed under 1380. After the test flight, I
landed on 27, taxied back satisfied and reassured by the results. Its
true that correct seasonal mixture per one jet size can have everything
to do with cooling the Subaru engine. In my haste to be ready for Open
Hangar Day, I missed the symptoms of an engine that had been running
near safe EIS set points most of the summer. Nothing harmed, but its a
point that should be made and will have to be remembered for the next
trip. We probably missed a good Saturday too.
Larry McFarland 601HDS at www.macsmachine.com
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | November is Matronics Email List Fund Raiser Month! |
Dear Listers,
You've probably noticed that there are no banner ads or pop-up windows or spam
from any of the List and Forum services at Matronics. These include, for example:
The Email List Postings - http://www.matronics.com/listbrowse
The Email List Forum Site - http://forums.matronics.com
The List Wiki - http://wiki.matronics.com
The List Search Engine - http://www.matronics.com/search
This is because I have always enjoyed a List experience that was completely about
the sport we enjoy - airplanes - and not about advertising!
But running a high performance, highly available service like this isn't free and
a fair amount of money in terms of computer upgrades, business-class Internet
connectivity, and electricity. Consequently, many similar sites turn to advertising
to support these costs. Advertising that you have to look at each and
every time you read an email message or browse the their web site.
Rather than subject my List community to another constant commercial bombardment,
I have chosen to hold a PBS-like fund raiser each year in November to support
the continued operation and upgrade of the List services. It's solely through
the Contributions of List members that the Lists and Forums continue to be
possible!
During the month, I will be sending out a Fund Raiser reminder message every few
days and I ask for your patience and understanding during the month throughout
these regular messages. Think of them as PBS' Pledge Breaks... :-)
To minimize the impact of the Fund Raiser on the List community, I implemented
a new feature late last year specifically related to making Contributions. If
you are an Email List subscriber, once you make a Contribution using the online
web site, you will no longer receive the email from me regarding the Fund Raiser!
There are a couple of exceptions to this, however. If someone replies
to a Contribution message I've sent, you might receive that. Additionally, the
messages will always be posted to the Forums site. To a first order, however,
once you make a Contribution, you won't get my email messages about the Fund
Raiser for the rest of the month. For Contributions by check, the squelch
will take effect once the check is received.
There is a whole new line up of really great Contribution gifts this year! When
you make a qualifying Contribution, you can select one of the many free gifts
that are available during the Fund Raiser. These gifts are provided through
the generous support of a number of our industry's leading supporters including:
Bob Nuckolls - AeroElectric - http://www.aeroelectric.com
Andy Gold - Builder's Bookstore - http://www.buildersbooks.com
Jon Croke - HomebuiltHELP - http://www.homebuilthelp.com
Please visit these guy's respective sites, as they have some great products to
offer and are generously supporting the Matronics List Fund Raiser.
You can make your List Contribution using any one of three secure methods this
year including using a credit card, PayPal, or by personal check. From the Contribution
site, you can select any one of this year's free gifts with a qualifying
Contribution amount. The Contribution page is pretty loooonnnnng this year
in order to list great selection of great gifts available so be sure to scroll
all the way to the bottom of the web page to see everything that's available!
Please make a List Support Contribution:
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I would like to thank everyone in advance for their generous support! Your Contributions
truely keep this operation afloat!
Thank you,
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Forum Administrator
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | List Fund Raiser |
Dear Listers,
Just a reminder that November is the Matronics Email List Fund Raiser month. I've
got a bunch of really nice incentive gifts this year. There's really something
for everyone!
Please make a Contribution today:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Thank you!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | What Listers Are Saying... |
November is Matronics List Fund Raiser month and a number people been sending some
really nice comments regarding the Lists. I thought I'd share a few below.
The Lists are completely supported by your Contributions. All of the bills for
new hardware, connectivity, and electricity are paid by the generous support
of the List members.
Please make your Contribution today to support the continued operation of the List
and Forums:
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Thank you!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
================= What Listers Are Saying ================
Flying and building is much safer with this List!!
Robert D.
Thanks for having and maintaining such a great resource to
all of us builders and flyers.
Wayne E.
Love the fact that you haven't caved to advertising!
Peter J.
..a great resource!!
Robert C.
Not building at the moment, but the Lists keeps me right
up to date with what's going on.
Chris D.
The web forum has been running great.
James O.
I enjoy this [List] site very much...
Paul C.
This is a great list!
Albert G.
..a valuable resource!
Roger C.
I am deployed to Pakistan right now, and being able
to go on-line and keep up with the aircraft discussions
helps keep the aircraft building dream alive in my mind!
Gregory C.
..fantastic service!
Roger M.
..clearly a work of passion!
Mike C.
It is a great service to us!
Kevin C.
The list is a wonderful resource...
Ralph O.
[The Lists] have been the single greatest resource in
building my RV-9A and now my RV-10.
Albert G.
..a valuable and always improving service.
Dick S.
STILL THE BEST BARGAIN AROUND!!
Owen B.
..such a valuable tool.
Jon M.
[The Lists] have been an invaluable resource for me
as a Zenith homebuilder.
David G.
The opportunity to meet (on line at least) many other
interesting builders and to make some new friends is
truly appreciated.
Albert G.
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | If You Got This Email, You Haven't Made A Contribution Yet! |
:-)
Dear Listers,
If you received this particular Matronics List Email message, its because you haven't
yet made a Contribution to support your Lists! Implemented for the first
time last year, the Matronics system selectively sends out the Contribution
messages to those that forgot to whip out the 'ol credit card this year to support
the continued operation and upgrade of the Matronics Email Lists! Don't
you wish PBS worked that way? :-)
You heard that right. Once you make your Contribution, these support requests
messages during November will suddenly stop coming to your personal email inbox!
I wanted to implement something like this for a number of years, but it was
always such a daunting task to modify the back-end List processing code, that
I just kept putting it off. Finally last year, I just decided to bite the bullet
and put the code-pounding time it to make it work. A few days later, bam!
A working system!
I really do appreciate each and every one of your individual Contributions to support
the Lists. It is your support that enables me to upgrade the hardware
and software that are required to run a List Site like this. It also goes to
pay for the commercial-grade Internet connection and to pay the rather huge electric
bill to keep the computer gear running and the air conditioner powered
up. I run ALL of the Matronics Email List and Forums sites here locally which
allows me to control and monitor every aspect of the system for the utmost in
reliably and performance.
Your personal Contribution matters because when combined with other Listers such
as yourself, it pays the bills to keep this site up and running. I accept exactly
ZERO advertising dollars for the Matronics Lists sites. I can't stand
the pop-up ads and all other commercialism that is so prevalent on the Internet
these days and I particularly don't want to have it on my Email List site.
If you appreciate the ad-free, grass-roots, down-home feel of the Matronics Email
Lists, please make a Contribution to keep it that way!!
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Thank you!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
[Please note the following regarding the selective posting system. There are certain
circumstances where you might still see a Contribution related message.
These situations include if someone replies to one of the messages, or when
using the List Browse feature, or when accessing List message via the Forum.
Since most of these are anonymous public access methods, there is no simple way
to filter them.]
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Post Mortem - Matronics List Pummeled By Spam... |
Dear Listers,
Over a 3-day period, Thursday 11/8 though Saturday 11/10, the Matronics Lists were
pummeled with over 450,000 spam emails causing posting delays and a few duplicate
messages. Yeah, I really said nearly half a million spams! The good
news is that I don't believe a single one of them actually made it to the Lists
thanks to the aggressive List filtering code and the Barracuda spam filter.
The bad news was that it caused quite a back log of email messages starting Friday
and continuing until late Saturday when I noticed that delivery seemed a bit
sluggish. By about 11pm on Saturday night, I had managed to get the backlog
cleared out of the spam filter by temporarily adjusting some of the filtering.
A check of the queues this morning, and everything looks like its working great
and there are no incoming filtering delays and spam levels appear to be back
to "normal".
There were a number of people asking what was going on, so I thought that I'd send
out a follow up post mortem on the event...
November is the annual List Fund Raiser. Your contribution directly enables me
to buy systems like the Barracuda spam filter that keep the List free of that
garbage. Please make a contribution to support your Lists!
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Thank you!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | List of Contributors |
Each year at the end of the List Fund Raiser, I post a message acknowledging everyone
that so generously made a Contribution to support the Lists. Its sort of
my way of publicly thanking everyone that took a minute to show their appreciation
for the Lists.
Won't you take a moment and assure that your name is on that List of Contributors
(LOC)? As a number of members have pointed out over the years, the List seems
at least - if not a whole lot more - valuable as a building/flying/recreating/entertainment
tool as your typical magazine subscription!
Please take minute and assure that your name is on this year's LOC! Show others
that you appreciate the Lists. Making a Contribution to support the Lists is
fast and easy using your Credit card or Paypal on the Secure Web Site:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
or by popping a personal check in the mail to:
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PO Box 347
Livermore CA 94551-0347
I would like to thank everyone that has so generously made a Contribution thus
far in this year's List Fund Raiser! Remember that its YOUR support that keeps
these Lists going and improving! Don't forget to include a little comment about
how the Lists have helped you!
Best regards,
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Value of the List... |
If you look forward to checking your List email everyday (and a lot of you have
written to say that you do!), then you're probably getting at least 0 or 0 worth
of Entertainment from the Lists each year. You'd pay twice that for a subscription
to some lame magazine or even a dinner out. Isn't the List worth at least
that much to you? Wouldn't it be great if you could pay that amount and get
a well-managed media source free of advertising, SPAM, and viruses? Come to
think of it, you do... :-)
Won't you please take a minute to make your Contribution today and support the
Lists?
Contribution Page:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Again, I want to say THANK YOU to everyone that has made a Contribution thus far
during this year's List Fund Raiser!! These Lists are made possible exclusively
through YOUR generosity!!
Thank you for your support!
Matt Dralle
Email List Admin.
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Please Make a Contribution to Support Your Lists... |
Just a reminder that November is the Annual List Fund Raiser. Please make a Contribution
today to support the continued operation and upgrade of these great
List services!! And pick up a really nice free gift with your qualifying Contribution
too!
The Contribution Site is fast and easy:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Thank you!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | [Please Read] Why I Have A Fund Raiser... |
Dear Listers,
Each year I like to explain why I have a Fund Raiser and also take the opportunity
to express why I think the List Services here provide a superior experience
over the commercial equivalents.
I use the List Fund Raiser each year to offset the costs involved with running
a high performance email list site such as this one. With the annual support from
the List members through the PBS-like Fund Raiser, I have found I can run
the entire site without having to inflect any of the members with those annoying
banner ads flashing up all the time trying to sell little-blue-pills or other
garbage nobody wants or needs. From the comments I've received over the years
regarding the Lists, the great majority of the members really appreciate the
non-commercialism of my List systems and don't mind my 'go-team-go' banter once
a year during November to encourage members to support the Lists.
I believe that the Lists services that I provide here offer many benefits over
the commercial equivalents in a number of ways. The first feature I believe to
be significant is that you cannot receive a computer v*rus from any of these
Lists directly. Each incoming message is filtered and dangerous attachments stripped
off prior to posting. I also provide a Photo and File Share feature that
allows members to share files and bitmaps with other members and everyone can
be assured that these files will be prescanned for any sort of v*rus before
they are posted. More recently, I have enabled limited posting of a number of
file formats including pictures and PDFs.
Another very important feature of this system in my opinion is the extensive List
Archives that are available for download, browsing, and searching. The Archives
go all the way back to the very beginning of each List and with the very
fast Search Engine, the huge size of some of the Archives is a non-issue in quickly
finding the data you're looking for.
And added just a couple of years ago is the new Email List Forum that allows members who prefer the Web BBS-style of List interaction. The beauty of the new List Forums is that they contain the exact same content that is distributed via email. Messages posted via email are cross-posted to the respective Forum and vice versa. The Forums also allow for another convenient method of sharing pictures and other files (http://forums.matronics.com ). Additionally, added recently is the List Wiki that allows members to build their own "Online List Encyclopedia" of sorts, documenting various aspects of their project for all to share ( http://wiki.matronics.com ).
I've been running email Lists and services under the matronics.com domain since
about 1989 starting with RV-List and 30 guys I knew and who where also building
RVs. It has grown into nearly 70 different aviation-related Email Lists and
an associated web site that receives over 34,000,000 hits each year!! Additionally,
the List Email system forwarded well over 77,000 postings last year, accounting
for an unbelievable 33,000,000 (yes, that's 33 MILLION) email messages
delivered to Matronics List subscribers! I think there's a lot of value in supporting
a service that has gone the long haul and is still providing and improving
a high quality service all _without any advertising budget_!
I have to admit running these Lists is a labor of love and I hope it shows in the
quality of the experience that you receive when you get a List Email Message,
Search the Archives, use the List Browser, or surf the Forums and Wiki sites.
The Lists will be here for a long time to come. If you just want to lurk a
while for free, that's great and I encourage you to do so. If you use, appreciate,
and receive value from these Lists, then please support them during the Annual
List Fund Raiser!
List Contribution Web Site:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Thank you,
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | What Are You Thankful For...? |
Dear Listers,
Here in the United States, Thursday is our National day of Thanksgiving. Many
of us will be traveling to be with our families and friends to share in generous
feasts of plenty and giving thanks for many blessings that have been bestowed
upon us.
Many Listers have expressed over the last couple of weeks how thankful they are
for the Email Lists and Forums here on the Matronics servers and for all of the
assistance and comradery they have experienced being a part of the Lists.
One of my favorite kind of comments is when write to me and says something like,
"Its the first thing I do in the morning while I'm having my morning coffee!".
That's a wonderful tribute to the purpose and function of these Lists. Its
always great to hear I'm not the only one that jumps out of bed each morning
to check my List email!!
Won't you take a minute today and show your appreciation for these Lists and for
their continued operation and upgrade?
The List Contribution Site is:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Thank you in advance for your kind consideration,
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
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| From: | Jack <carolej(at)gci.net> |
Does anyone know the part number for the Stratus starter used on their EA-81.
The label is missing off mine and can't see any stamped numbers.
Thanks,
Jack
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | LarryMcFarland <larry(at)macsmachine.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Stratus starter |
Jack,
I don't know the number, but be aware that the Stratus Starter runs
opposite the standard EA81 starter. I'd call Mykal and ask him.
Stratus 2000 Inc.
5145 SE 3rd St
Corvallis, OR 97333
Phone: (541)754-4114
Fax: (541)754-4114
Email us at mjt(at)camano.net
Larry McFarland 601HDS at www.macsmachine.com
Jack wrote:
> Does anyone know the part number for the Stratus starter used on their
> EA-81. The label is missing off mine and can't see any stamped numbers.
> Thanks,
> Jack
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Jack <carolej(at)gci.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Stratus starter |
Thank you Larry, appreciate the feedback.
Jack
----- Original Message -----
From: "LarryMcFarland" <larry(at)macsmachine.com>
Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2007 8:50 AM
Subject: Re: Stratus-List: Stratus starter
>
> Jack,
> I don't know the number, but be aware that the Stratus Starter runs
> opposite the standard EA81 starter. I'd call Mykal and ask him.
>
>
> Stratus 2000 Inc.
> 5145 SE 3rd St
> Corvallis, OR 97333
>
> Phone: (541)754-4114
> Fax: (541)754-4114
>
> Email us at mjt(at)camano.net
>
>
> Larry McFarland 601HDS at www.macsmachine.com
>
> Jack wrote:
>> Does anyone know the part number for the Stratus starter used on their
>> EA-81. The label is missing off mine and can't see any stamped numbers.
>> Thanks,
>> Jack
>
>
> --
> 269.16.4/1145 - Release Date: 11/22/2007 11:49 AM
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "gary" <gkrysztopik(at)satx.rr.com> |
>From the zenith archives;
I just replaced my Stratus starter because it had started to
intermittently fail to crank on occasion. I did not want to get stuck
far from home.
At first I searched the web and found lots of starters at the
NAPA web
site. But before I ordered one, I checked with Mykal of Stratus.
He told me that the Soob starters would not work because they turn
the wrong way. What I should have realized (If I would have thought
about how the starter is mounted on the Stratus) is that the starter
is mounted backwards and needs to turn the opposite direction from
the stock starter. Mykal uses starters that are remanufactured and
are designated "Lester no. 16236" - Apparently Lester is a well
known company or numbering system or something in the remanufacturing
world.
So, don't buy a Soob starter should you need one. Mykal sold me
one for $72 plus shipping which I thought was a fair price.
I know that Mykal also has a "short" and a "long" version. The long one
interfered with the Bing throttle linkage and it was hooked up backwards
from normal aviation (spring pulls throttle on if cable breaks) so I
exchanged for a "short" and got new linkage from Bing so I could make my
throttle fail on.
Gary Krysztopik
San Antonio, TX
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-stratus-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-stratus-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jack
Sent: Friday, November 23, 2007 11:09 AM
Subject: Re: Stratus-List: Stratus starter
Thank you Larry, appreciate the feedback.
Jack
----- Original Message -----
From: "LarryMcFarland" <larry(at)macsmachine.com>
Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2007 8:50 AM
Subject: Re: Stratus-List: Stratus starter
>
> Jack,
> I don't know the number, but be aware that the Stratus Starter runs
> opposite the standard EA81 starter. I'd call Mykal and ask him.
>
>
> Stratus 2000 Inc.
> 5145 SE 3rd St
> Corvallis, OR 97333
>
> Phone: (541)754-4114
> Fax: (541)754-4114
>
> Email us at mjt(at)camano.net
>
>
> Larry McFarland 601HDS at www.macsmachine.com
>
> Jack wrote:
>> Does anyone know the part number for the Stratus starter used on
their
>> EA-81. The label is missing off mine and can't see any stamped
numbers.
>> Thanks,
>> Jack
>
>
> --
> 269.16.4/1145 - Release Date: 11/22/2007 11:49 AM
>
>
11/22/2007 11:49 AM
11/22/2007 11:49 AM
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Jack <carolej(at)gci.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Stratus starter |
Gary,
Thanks for the information, appreciate it.
Jack
----- Original Message -----
From: "gary" <gkrysztopik(at)satx.rr.com>
Sent: Friday, November 23, 2007 8:29 AM
Subject: RE: Stratus-List: Stratus starter
>
>>From the zenith archives;
>
>
> I just replaced my Stratus starter because it had started to
> intermittently fail to crank on occasion. I did not want to get stuck
> far from home.
>
> At first I searched the web and found lots of starters at the
> NAPA web
> site. But before I ordered one, I checked with Mykal of Stratus.
> He told me that the Soob starters would not work because they turn
> the wrong way. What I should have realized (If I would have thought
> about how the starter is mounted on the Stratus) is that the starter
> is mounted backwards and needs to turn the opposite direction from
> the stock starter. Mykal uses starters that are remanufactured and
> are designated "Lester no. 16236" - Apparently Lester is a well
> known company or numbering system or something in the remanufacturing
> world.
>
> So, don't buy a Soob starter should you need one. Mykal sold me
> one for $72 plus shipping which I thought was a fair price.
>
> I know that Mykal also has a "short" and a "long" version. The long one
> interfered with the Bing throttle linkage and it was hooked up backwards
> from normal aviation (spring pulls throttle on if cable breaks) so I
> exchanged for a "short" and got new linkage from Bing so I could make my
> throttle fail on.
>
> Gary Krysztopik
> San Antonio, TX
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-stratus-list-server(at)matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-stratus-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jack
> Sent: Friday, November 23, 2007 11:09 AM
> To: stratus-list(at)matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Stratus-List: Stratus starter
>
>
> Thank you Larry, appreciate the feedback.
> Jack
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "LarryMcFarland" <larry(at)macsmachine.com>
> To:
> Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2007 8:50 AM
> Subject: Re: Stratus-List: Stratus starter
>
>
>
>>
>> Jack,
>> I don't know the number, but be aware that the Stratus Starter runs
>> opposite the standard EA81 starter. I'd call Mykal and ask him.
>>
>>
>> Stratus 2000 Inc.
>> 5145 SE 3rd St
>> Corvallis, OR 97333
>>
>> Phone: (541)754-4114
>> Fax: (541)754-4114
>>
>> Email us at mjt(at)camano.net
>
>>
>>
>> Larry McFarland 601HDS at www.macsmachine.com
>>
>> Jack wrote:
>>> Does anyone know the part number for the Stratus starter used on
> their
>>> EA-81. The label is missing off mine and can't see any stamped
> numbers.
>>> Thanks,
>>> Jack
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| From: | gf34110(at)comcast.net |
| Subject: | Re: Stratus-List Digest: 3 Msgs - 11/22/07 |
Starter 12v 1.4 KW Lester 16236,
Westling 72-8327SX,
Delco 323-587, Beck
Arnley 187-0046
(fits 1985 Toyota Cressida
6-cylinder)
-------------- Original message --------------
From: Stratus-List Digest Server <stratus-list(at)matronics.com>
> *
>
> ==================================================
> Online Versions of Today's List Digest Archive
> ==================================================
>
> Today's complete Stratus-List Digest can also be found in either of the
> two Web Links listed below. The .html file includes the Digest formatted
> in HTML for viewing with a web browser and features Hyperlinked Indexes
> and Message Navigation. The .txt file includes the plain ASCII version
> of the Stratus-List Digest and can be viewed with a generic text editor
> such as Notepad or with a web browser.
>
> HTML Version:
>
>
> http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=html&Chapter 0
> 7-11-22&Archive=Stratus
>
> Text Version:
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>
> http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=txt&Chapter 07
> -11-22&Archive=Stratus
>
>
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> ================================================
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------
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> ---
> Total Messages Posted Thu 11/22/07: 3
> ----------------------------------------------------------
>
>
> Today's Message Index:
> ----------------------
>
> 0. 12:23 AM - What Are You Thankful For...? (Matt Dralle)
> 1. 09:21 AM - Stratus starter (Jack)
> 2. 09:51 AM - Re: Stratus starter (LarryMcFarland)
>
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 0
> _____________________________________
>
>
> From: Matt Dralle
> Subject: Stratus-List: What Are You Thankful For...?
>
>
> Dear Listers,
>
> Here in the United States, Thursday is our National day of Thanksgiving. Many
> of us will be traveling to be with our families and friends to share in generous
> feasts of plenty and giving thanks for many blessings that have been bestowed
> upon us.
>
> Many Listers have expressed over the last couple of weeks how thankful they are
> for the Email Lists and Forums here on the Matronics servers and for all of the
> assistance and comradery they have experienced being a part of the Lists.
> One of my favorite kind of comments is when write to me and says something like,
> "Its the first thing I do in the morning while I'm having my morning coffee!".
> That's a wonderful tribute to the purpose and function of these Lists. Its
> always great to hear I'm not the only one that jumps out of bed each morning
> to check my List email!!
>
> Won't you take a minute today and show your appreciation for these Lists and
for
> their continued operation and upgrade?
>
> The List Contribution Site is:
>
> http://www.matronics.com/contribution
>
> Thank you in advance for your kind consideration,
>
> Matt Dralle
> Matronics Email List Administrator
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 1
> _____________________________________
>
>
> From: Jack
> Subject: Stratus-List: Stratus starter
>
> Does anyone know the part number for the Stratus starter used on their EA-81.
> The label is missing off mine and can't see any stamped numbers.
> Thanks,
> Jack
>
> ________________________________ Message 2
> _____________________________________
>
>
> From: LarryMcFarland
> Subject: Re: Stratus-List: Stratus starter
>
>
> Jack,
> I don't know the number, but be aware that the Stratus Starter runs
> opposite the standard EA81 starter. I'd call Mykal and ask him.
>
>
> Stratus 2000 Inc.
> 5145 SE 3rd St
> Corvallis, OR 97333
>
> Phone: (541)754-4114
> Fax: (541)754-4114
>
> Email us at mjt(at)camano.net
>
>
> Larry McFarland 601HDS at www.macsmachine.com
>
> Jack wrote:
> > Does anyone know the part number for the Stratus starter used on their
> > EA-81. The label is missing off mine and can't see any stamped numbers.
> > Thanks,
> > Jack
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
Starter
12v 1.4 KW
Lester 16236, Westling 72-8327SX,
Delco 323-587, Beck Arnley 187-0046
(fits 1985 Toyota Cressida 6-cylinder)
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> ================================================
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>
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> ----------------------------------------------------------
>
>
> Today's Message Index:
> ----------------------
>
> 0. 12:23 AM - What Are You Thankful For...? (Matt Dralle)
> 1. 09:21 AM - Stratus starter (Jack)
> 2. 09:51 AM - Re: Stratus starter (LarryMcFarland)
>
>
>
> _________
______
_________________ Message 0
> _____________________________________
>
Subject: Stratus-List: What Are You Thankful For...?
>
>
> Dear Listers,
>
> Here in the United
States, Thursday is our National day of Thanksgiving. Many
> of us will
be traveling to be with our families and friends to share in generous
>
feasts of plenty and giving thanks for many blessings that have been bestowed
> upon us.
>
> Many Listers have expressed over the
last couple of weeks how thankful they are
> for the Email Lists and Forums
here on the Matronics servers and for all of the
> assistance and
comradery they have experienced being a part of the Lists.
> One of my
favorite kind of comments is when write to me and says something like,
>
"Its the first thing I do in the morning while I'm
having
s miss
he lab
t util
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
Dear Listers,
Below are a few more of the nice comments Listers have been making along with their
Contributions in support of the Lists this year. Please make your Contribution
today to support the continued operation and upgrade of these services.
Remember, there is _no advertising budget_ to keep these Lists funded. It is
solely through your generosity that they continue.
Please make a Contribution:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Thank you!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List and Forum Administrator
------------------------------What Listers Are Saying------------------------------
The list has been invaluable in the building of my Zenith CH701.
George R
Thanks for keeping the lists a non-commercial venue for us
to gather and share knowledge.
Neal G
What a fantastic resource!
Ralph C
It's a pretty cheep troubleshooting tool with and unlimited
resource of personal knowledge.
Bruce G
A full house of Info & Ideas...
Ellery B
I really enjoy the Piet list.
Steven D
The Lists are an indispensable resource for those of us
building OBAM aircraft.
Bret S
..a great service.
Frank D
..all in all it is a great resource if you ask specific
questions.
Richard S
Your list has really helped me in my first build.
Michael W
Always a pleasure to support this great resource...
Richard W
I enjoy the lists very much, they are very beneficial.
Bob L
Great place to chat with other builders and Flyers.
Ellery B
Your lists are a great service to builders and owners!
Richard D
A real good place for someone that is starting to get
interested into flying without investing any money at
first.
Ellery B
The list has been an great help to my building process.
David B
I'm close to finishing my Zenith 601 thanks to you and
the Zenith List.
Jeff D
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Jack <carolej(at)gci.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Stratus-List Digest: 3 Msgs - 11/22/07 |
Thanks for the reply. Appreciate the help.
Jack
----- Original Message -----
From: gf34110(at)comcast.net
To: stratus-list(at)matronics.com
Sent: Friday, November 23, 2007 11:39 AM
Subject: Stratus-List: Re: Stratus-List Digest: 3 Msgs - 11/22/07
Starter 12v 1.4 KW Lester
16236, Westling 72-8327SX,
Delco 323-587, Beck
Arnley 187-0046
(fits 1985 Toyota
Cressida 6-cylinder)
-------------- Original message --------------
From: Stratus-List Digest Server <stratus-list(at)matronics.com>
> *
>
> ==================================================
> Online Versions of Today's List Digest Archive
> ==================================================
>
> Today's complete Stratus-List Digest can also be found in either of the
> two Web Links listed below. The .html file includes the Digest formatted
> in HTML for viewing with a web browser and features Hyperlinked Indexes
> and Message Navigation. The .txt file includes the plain ASCII version
> of the Stratus-List Digest and can be viewed with a generic text editor
> such as Notepad or with a web browser.
>
> HTML Version:
>
>
> http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701& ;View= html&Chapter 0
> 7-11-22&Archive=Stratus
>
> Text Version:
>
>
> http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=txt&Chapter 07
> -11-22&Archive=Stratus
>
>
> ================================================
> EMail Version of Today's List Digest Archive
> ================================================
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------
> Stratus-List Digest Archive
> ---
> Total Messages Posted Thu 11/22/07: 3
> ----------------------------------------------------------
>
>
> Today's Message Index:
> ----------------------
>
> 0. 12:23 AM - What Are You Thankful For...? (Matt Dralle)
> 1. 09:21 AM - Stratus starter (Jack)
> 2. 09:51 AM - Re: Stratus starter (LarryMcFarland)
>
>
>
> _________ ______ _________________ Message 0
> _____________________________________
>
>
> From: Matt Dralle
> Subject: Stratus-List: What Are You Thankful For...?
>
>
> Dear Listers,
>
> Here in the United States, Thursday is our National day of Thanksgiving.
Many
> of us will be traveling to be with our families and friends to share in generous
> feasts of plenty and giving thanks for many blessings that have been bestowed
> upon us.
>
> Many Listers have expressed over the last couple of weeks how thankful they
are
> for the Email Lists and Forums here on the Matronics servers and for all
of the
> assistance and comradery they have experienced being a part of the Lists.
> One of my favorite kind of comments is when write to me and says something
like,
> "Its the first thing I do in the morning while I'm having my morning coffee!".
> That's a wonderful tribute to the purpose and function of these Lists. Its
> always great to hear I'm not the only one that jumps out of bed each morning
> to check my List email!!
>
> Won't you take a minute today and show your appreciation for these Lists
and for
> their continued operation and upgrade?
>
> The List Contribution Site is:
>
> http://www.matronics.com/contribution
>
> Thank you in advance for your kind consideration,
>
> Matt Dralle
> Matronics Email List Administrator
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 1
> _____________________________________
>
>
> From: Jack
> Subject: Stratus-List: Stratus starter
>
> Does anyone know the part number for the Stratus starter used on their EA-81.
> The label i s miss ing off mine and can't see any stamped numbers.
> Thanks,
> Jack
>
> ________________________________ Message 2
> _____________________________________
>
>
> From: LarryMcFarland
> Subject: Re: Stratus-List: Stratus starter
>
>
> Jack,
> I don't know the number, but be aware that the Stratus Starter runs
> opposite the standard EA81 starter. I'd call Mykal and ask him.
>
>
> Stratus 2000 Inc.
> 5145 SE 3rd St
> Corvallis, OR 97333
>
> Phone: (541)754-4114
> Fax: (541)754-4114
>
> Email us at mjt(at)camano.net
>
>
> Larry McFarland 601HDS at www.macsmachine.com
>
> Jack wrote:
> > Does anyone know the part number for the Stratus starter used on their
> > EA-81. T he lab t util
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Make Sure You're Listed! List of Contributors Published |
Dec 1!
Dear Listers,
The List of Contributors (LOC) is just around the corner! On December 1st I post
a list of everyone that so generously made a Contribution to support the Lists.
Its my way of publicly thanking everyone that took a minute to show their
appreciation for the Lists.
As a number of people have pointed out in their Contribution comments, these Lists
seems at least as valuable of a building/flying/recreating tool as a typical
your magazine subscription! And how interactive is a magazine, after all?
Won't you take minute and assure that your name is on the upcoming LOC? Tell others
that you appreciate the Lists. Making a Contribution to support the Lists
is fast and easy using your Visa, MasterCard, or Paypal account:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Or, by dropping a personal check in the mail to:
Matronics / Matt Dralle
PO Box 347
Livermore CA 94551-0347
USA
(Please include your email address on the check!)
I would like to thank everyone that has so generously made a Contribution thus
far during this year's List Fund Raiser! Remember that its YOUR support that keeps
these Lists running and improving! Don't forget to include a little comment
about how the Lists have helped you!
Thank you!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | [Please Read] What are "The Lists" and Who's This Matt Dralle? |
Dear Listers,
Who is Matt Dralle and what exactly are these Lists? Well, I've been working in
the information technology industry for nearly 25 years primarily in computer
networking design and implementation. I have also done extensive work in web
development and CGI design during that time, along with some embedded system
development as well.
I started the Matronics Email Lists back in 1990 with about 30 fellow RV builders
from around the world. Since that time, I have added 63 other kinds of aircraft
related Lists to the line up and numerous other List related services such
as the Forums, Wiki, Archives and Search Engine just to name a few.
For flexibility and reliability, I have chosen to run all of my own servers here
locally. Other List-related systems include a 1 Gigabit, fully switched network
infrastructure, a commercial-grade Netscreen firewall, a Barracuda spam filter,
a local T1 Internet router, and a commercial-grade business T1 Internet
connection with full static addressing.
The computer servers found here include a quad-processor Xeon Linux server for
List web services, a dual-processor Xeon Linux system dedicated to the email processing
List functions, and another P4 Linux system serving as a remote storage
disk farm for the archives, databases, and for an on-line hard drive-based
backup system with 3.2 Terra Bytes of storage! This entire system is protected
by three large, commercial-grade uninterrupted power supply (UPS) systems that
assure the Lists are available even during a local power outage! Speaking
of power, imagine how much electricity it takes to run all of these systems. One
month last Summer, I had a staggering $1368 bill for electricity alone!
I recently upgraded all of the computer racking infrastructure including new power
feeds and dedicated air conditioning for the room that serves as the Computer
Center for the Matronics Email Lists. Last year I added another rack to
house the MONSTER quad-processor web system that didn't quite fit into the first
rack! Here's a composite photo of the List Computer Center before the addition
of the second rack:
http://www.matronics.com/MattDralle-ListComputerCenter.jpg
As you can see, I take running these Lists very seriously and I am dedicated to
providing an always-on, 24x7x365 experience for each and every Lister.
But building and running this system isn't cheap. As I've stated before, I don't
support any of these systems with commercial advertising on the Lists. It is
supported 100% through List member Contributions! That means you... and you...
and YOU!
To that end, I hold a List Fund Raiser each November and ask that members make
a small Contribution to support the continued operation and upgrade of this ever-expanding
system. Its solely YOUR Contributions that keeps it running!
Won't you please take a moment to make a Contribution to support these Lists!
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Or, by dropping a personal check in the mail to:
Matronics / Matt Dralle
PO Box 347
Livermore CA 94551-0347
USA
(Please include your email address on the check!)
There are some great gifts available with qualifying Contribution levels too!
Thank you!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | LarryMcFarland <larry(at)macsmachine.com> |
| Subject: | engine-rest for a Stratus |
Hi guys,
Well, this years annual became time to correct a misalignment in one
lower mount bolt and it required I build another adapter mount with a
1/8 vertically corrected hole. The mount wasnt so difficult as I made
a modified copy from an example purchased earlier from Stratus. It was
easier to make new than modify the original.
Changing it might have been difficult without an engine rest Id built
some time ago. The engine rest was placed under the oil pan bolts; a
wood horse was placed under the tail. Screws were tightened down to lift
the engine enough to unload the mount-bolts. The lower left mount was
removed and the new dimension mount was bolted in its place. The
correction put the bolt straight thru, was tightened and safetied.
Within 20-minutes, the engine-rest and tail support were removed and all
was good again after 2 years flight.
I mention this because the engine-rest is a great way to safely make
such fixes, replace rubber dampers etc and the weldment only required
some 1-inch angle, -inch square tube, -inch rod and some 3/8-inch
thread stock with nuts. Sounds like a Christmas recipe doesnt it.
Sometimes the shortest and easiest distance is just such a device.
http://www.macsmachine.com/images/TJH/HScentersection/full/enginerest1.gif
http://www.macsmachine.com/images/TJH/HScentersection/full/enginerest3.gif
http://www.macsmachine.com/images/TJH/HScentersection/full/enginetailrest.gif
Fly safe guys,
Larry McFarland
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Wow! A Ton of Comments! |
Dear Listers,
I've been getting a ton of great comments from Listers along with their List Support
Contributions lately! I've shared a bunch more below. Please read over
some of them and see what your fellow Listers think of the Lists and Forums.
There are just a couple more days left before the official end of this year's Fund
Raiser. Please make a Contribution today to support the continued upgrade
and operation of these services.
There are still lots of awesome gifts available, so browse the extensive selection
and pickup a nice item along with your qualifying Contribution.
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Thank you in advance for your generous support! It is very much appreciated!
Best regards,
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
----------- What Listers Are Saying About The Lists -----------
In the big picture, you are most certainly saving lives.
The fact that you do it at a very good level of service,
quality, and simplicity is just icing on the cake. We
all owe you a debt of gratitude.
Bruce M
Can't go a single day without reading my lists. Even
when I am overseas.
Terry W
Best list ever. No comparison.
Johann J
I get the digest for the two lists I subscribe to each
morning -- they go great with my coffee! I can't tell
you how much I've learned from this great service...
Mark S
..great lists, best on the Net!
Robert S
It is very nice to enjoy a SPAM free list.
Ken L
You run a great list. Makes a builder feel like there's
lots of help out there for the asking, and it's
appreciated.
Steve T
The list is a very valuable resource.
Thomas S
You run a good list.
James G
Thanks for a great forum.
Jimmy Y
Thanks for a well-maintained list(s).
Michael M
Great job! Worth every penny!
Stephen T
Helps me learn and think about issues I didn't know I
didn't know.
Martin H
I find the list very useful...
Robert F
What you do provides me with daily contact with a passion
of my life, aviation.
Wendell M
..the list it is very valuable information.
Dwayne H
..a great service to homebuilders.
Andrew H
I have learned quite a lot from reading the Forums. I
have been reading at the forum pages and I like the way
it works.
Ron L
[The List] makes a builder feel like there's lots of
help out there for the asking, and it's appreciated.
Steve T
The list service many purposes, not the least of which is
motivation to join my fellow RVer in completing my project
and getting in the air.
John S
Thanks for running a great site. Its simplicity is its
greatness. Don't know how I would have been successful
without it.
Timothy F
..terrific service to experimental and general aviation.
James F
You have a well run operation. I am happy to support what
you do.
Mark S
A wonderful service to the GA community.
David M
Great list - let's keep it ad-free!
Ben C
They have been of great help, learning and friendship
for all the members Worldwide. Great job of yours, a
little idea that grew really big and wonderful.
Gary G
..a thoroughly enjoyable and informative List.
John W
A GREAT LEARNING TOOL!!
Dwayne Y
This is a very well-run list and it is a valuable resource
for the Pietenpol enthusiast.
Graham H
Thanks for running this great site - helps those of
us on the east of the pond keep in touch.
Malcolm H
Thanks for the major contribution to my continuing
education program.
Oldbob S
I'm just getting started in the building process & find
Matronics to be the most valuable site.
Scott D
Without the information and encouragement from the listers
my project would have been sitting in the corner of my shop
collecting dust long ago. Now it's almost ready for final
assemble and covering.
Edward G
Great List. No Ads, just RV-10 builders. Keep it
going.
Rick E
Wonderful source of info for building & flying...
Graham H
The Yak-list is a superb single source to get answers to
questions on the operation of these aircraft.
Craig W
This list is valuable to everyone and your hard work is
very much appreciated.
Jim S
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Just Two Days Left... |
Dear Listers,
There are just a couple days left for this year's List Fund Raiser. Over all,
participation has been good, but things have been pretty slow this week for some
reason. If you've been putting off making your Contribution until the last
minute, this is it! The last minute, that is... :-)
Please remember that there isn't any sort of commercial advertising on the Lists
and the *only* means of keeping these Lists running is through your Contributions
during this Fund Raiser.
Please make a Contribution today!
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Thank you!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | [Please Read] - Last Official Day of List Fund Raiser! |
Dear Listers,
Its November 30th and that means a couple of things. Its my 44th birthday for
one, but I'm trying to forget about that... But, it also means that its that
last official day of the Matronics Email List Fund Raiser!
If you been drooling over one of the really sweet free gifts that are available
this year with a qualifying Contribution, then now is the time to jump on one!!
If you've been meaning to make a Contribution, but just keep putting it off, then
now is the time!
I will be posting the List of Contributors in a few days, so you'll probably want
to be known as a person that supported the Lists! Rather than the guy that,
er, ah, forgot (or whatever)... :-)
I want to thank everyone that has so generously made a Contribution so far this
year in support of our Lists. It is your generosity that keeps this operation
a float and I don't ever forget it. Hopefully everyone will feel the same.
The List Contribution page is fast and easy. Please support our habit by making
your Contribution right now:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Thank you all in advance!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Matronics List Fund Raiser - 2007 List of Contributors |
Dear Listers,
I would like to thank everyone that made a Contribution in support of the Lists
this year! It was really nice to hear all great comments people had regarding
the Lists! As I have said many times before, running these Lists is a labor
of love. Your generosity during the List Fund Raiser underscores the great sentiments
people have made regarding the Lists.
If you haven't yet made a Contribution in support of this year's Fund Raiser please
feel free to do so. The great List Fund Raiser gifts will be available on
the Contribution site for just a little while longer, so hurry and make your
Contribution and get your great gift! Once again, the URL for the Contribution
web site is:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
I would like to thank Andy Gold of the Builder's Bookstore ( http://www.buildersbooks.com ), Jon Croke of Homebuilt HELP ( http://www.homebuilthelp.com ) and Bob Nuckolls of AeroElectric ( http://www.aeroelectric.com ) for their extremely generous support during this year's Fund Raiser through the contribution of discounted merchandise. These are great guys that support the aviation industry and I encourage each and every Lister to have a look at their products. Thank you Andy, Jon and Bob!! Your support is very much appreciated!
And finally, below you will find a web link to the 2007 List of Contributors current
as of 12/6/07! Have a look at this list of names as these are the people
that make all of these List services possible! I can't thank each of you enough
for your support and great feedback during this year's Fund Raiser!
THANK YOU!
http://www.matronics.com/loc/2007.html
I will be shipping out all of the gifts in the next few weeks and hope to have
everything out by the end of the month. In most cases, gifts will be shipped
via US Postal Service.
Once again, thank you for making this year's List Fund Raiser successful!
Best regards,
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Antonio bm" <pperal(at)bsab.com> |
| Subject: | Subaru for my zenairHD |
Hello to all, I present myself, my name is Antonio Beneytez and finishing of
build a Zenair 601HD in Madrid Spain, after a lot to look for engine is
almost resolved to mount a subaru Stratus 2000 and I would like to know if
you have had some problem with this motor and as solving it. I would also
like to know the benefits that he has the airplane with this motor like:
consumptions, wheight, speeds stall and of cruise that distances it travels
before the take off, etc.
That propeller is the most appropriate?
Is there some problem with the ignition?
If you consider some important fact I would also like to know it.
Thank you.
Antonio Beneytez
Madrid Spain
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Tim Shankland <tshankland(at)sbcglobal.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Subaru for my zenairHD |
Antonio,
Some number of years ago the Stratus was very popular on this list, now
everyone is looking at a Jabiru or Corvar. Myself I bought a a Stratus
and am very happy with it. I have about 60 hours on my 601HD and have
had no engine related problems. My point was I did not want another air
cooled engine water cooling has several advantages that have been
debated on this list in the past. The most important part of a reliable
installation is a adequate cooling system. I my opinion the Zenith
system with the "diaper" radiator on the bottom is marginal at best.
Some have made it work well but I have heard of many that have had heat
problems especially on hot days. My engine runs at 190 F on any day
summer or winter, on a long climb out in the summer it might rise to 200
until I level out. People on the ground comment on how quite the plane
is. Unlike aircraft engines I have had in the past where 1 quart of oil
every 10 hours is considered normal, I use about 1/2 a quart between oil
changes of 50 hours. As far as specifics for my plane I use a Warp Drive
prop and cruise of 75% power at 105 mph with a fuel burn of 5.6 gal/hr.
My empty weight is 788 lb.( sorry everything is English measure) but I
have a full IFR panel. I have heard of some problems with the ignition
but I have not had any. Let me know if there is anything else you need
to know. As for the most important item, cooling, I think if the engine
is adequately cooled most problems don't happen.
Tim Shankland
Antonio bm wrote:
>
> Hello to all, I present myself, my name is Antonio Beneytez and
> finishing of build a Zenair 601HD in Madrid Spain, after a lot to look
> for engine is almost resolved to mount a subaru Stratus 2000 and I
> would like to know if you have had some problem with this motor and as
> solving it. I would also like to know the benefits that he has the
> airplane with this motor like: consumptions, wheight, speeds stall and
> of cruise that distances it travels before the take off, etc.
> That propeller is the most appropriate?
> Is there some problem with the ignition?
> If you consider some important fact I would also like to know it.
> Thank you.
> Antonio Beneytez
> Madrid Spain
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "gary" <gkrysztopik(at)satx.rr.com> |
| Subject: | Subaru for my zenairHD |
Antonio,
I think it would be worth your time to read the list archives. The list
is very small and everything has been talked about in great detail.
After getting the history then you may have specific questions.
A short list might be this;
- get the dual ignition
- make sure the upper right(?) engine mount is a newer design
- ask for a "short" starter so the throttle springs can be setup to
pull-"on"
- send the heads to RAM for upgrade (stepped valve guides)
- wire a redundant battery supply for the second ignition
- relieve the secondary ignition bracket of the sharp inside corners or
it may end up cracking
- setup the belt tension for 1/4" play at the prop tips when cold
- anything else?
- a 72" Warp Drive 3-blade square tip ground adjustable has worked well
for many people.
- it consumes just under 4 gallons/hr at slow cruise, 5-6 at high cruise
- there are a lot flying and it has been a very reliable and economical
engine for most people. I have been very happy with mine.
Gary
Pelican PL
San Antonio, TX
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-stratus-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-stratus-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Antonio bm
Sent: Friday, December 07, 2007 5:37 PM
Subject: Stratus-List: Subaru for my zenairHD
Hello to all, I present myself, my name is Antonio Beneytez and
finishing of
build a Zenair 601HD in Madrid Spain, after a lot to look for engine is
almost resolved to mount a subaru Stratus 2000 and I would like to know
if
you have had some problem with this motor and as solving it. I would
also
like to know the benefits that he has the airplane with this motor like:
consumptions, wheight, speeds stall and of cruise that distances it
travels
before the take off, etc.
That propeller is the most appropriate?
Is there some problem with the ignition?
If you consider some important fact I would also like to know it.
Thank you.
Antonio Beneytez
Madrid Spain
12/7/2007 1:11 PM
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Bill Morelli" <billvt(at)together.net> |
| Subject: | Redrive Belt Supplier |
Has anyone recently purchased a redrive belt from someplace other than Stratus?
If so, where?
Regards,
Bill
(N812BM - 601HDS - Tri - Stratus (RAM Heads) - Vermont - 565.2 flight hrs. - 799
landings
web site -> http://homepages.together.net/~billvt/
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | LarryMcFarland <larry(at)macsmachine.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Redrive Belt Supplier |
Hi Bill,
I purchased a spare belt a year ago from a local bearing and belt supplier.
It was a Jason belt, with this number on it. HTB-880-8M-60MM. Should be
available
from any industrial bearing and drive dealer. Or you can find your closest
local supplier from this link.
http://www.jasonindustrial.com/Products/PrintProducts.cfm
Good luck,
Larry McFarland 601HDS at www.macsmachine.com
Bill Morelli wrote:
> Has anyone recently purchased a redrive belt from someplace other than
> Stratus?
>
> If so, where?
>
> Regards,
> Bill
>
> (N812BM - 601HDS - Tri - Stratus (RAM Heads) - Vermont - 565.2 flight
> hrs. - 799 landings
> web site -> http://homepages.together.net/~billvt/
> <http://homepages.together.net/%7Ebillvt/>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | LarryMcFarland <larry(at)macsmachine.com> |
| Subject: | Stratus Re-drive Belt alternate source |
Hi guys,
Bill Morelli recently asked for a source for the Stratus Redrive Belt as
performance
alternative to Stratus in Washington. I just ordered a belt as a spare from
Motion Industries 1920-5th Ave, Moline, IL 61265 Phone 309-797-1111
The price was near $65.00 which is reasonable for a Jason HTB Belt.
Jason number printed on the belt is 880-8M-60MM.
If you don't have a spare, perhaps it's time. Store it on edge in a zip
lock or
plastic bag. Keep it out of the sun and cold temps. Should be good for
years.
Good luck,
Larry McFarland 601HDS at www.macsmachine.com
________________________________________________________________________________
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INTERNET. A Canadian researcher communicating in English may
capabilities is more pervasive as the years go by. We have
my grandfather are uncovering significant, formerly obscure,
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________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | LarryMcFarland <larry(at)macsmachine.com> |
| Subject: | using 87-0ctane with ethanol |
Hi guys,
Ive been pleased to read these posts on blended ethanol fuel as I fly a
Subaru with Bings. After the first 40 test hours, Ive only used
87-octane at 10% ethanol. Poor winter weather limited flying to once a
month and I have been concerned about water in the gasoline. At
preflight, I drain enough fuel from each tank to fill a qt glass jar
more than half way. Ive never found any sign of water or found less
than clear fuel so its drained back into 5-gallon storage tanks. The
oldest gas has been 10-12 weeks in the hangar before use and the
Subarus performance doesnt seem to have been affected. Ive
transferred older gas at the end of winter into my car with no apparent
problems. Ive never seen signs of water in the 601s gascolator, the
quart jar or the clear filter on the firewall. Im only optimistic that
perhaps the fuel Im using is from stations that have rapid turnover
fuel stocks and a handle on their water separation. Im going to fly a
lot more this year and have also acquired a set of 5-gallon tanks that
can be carried empty in the wing baggage area for ease of retrieving
fuel from the street.
Thats been the experience so far.
Do fly safe,
Larry McFarland 601HDS at www.macsmachine.com
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Bryan Martin <bryanmmartin(at)comcast.net> |
| Subject: | Re: using 87-0ctane with ethanol |
If you are using gasoline with 10% alcohol in it, you won't see any
water in your samples or your gascolator because any water will be
held in suspension in the fuel by the alcohol -- up to a point, that
is. If enough water gets into the fuel, it will all settle out to the
bottom of the tank taking the alcohol with it. At this point, you will
now have gasoline with a significantly reduced octane rating floating
over a mixture of water and alcohol, neither substance will do nice
things for your engine. This is exactly how you test for alcohol in
gasoline, mix about 10% water with the gas and see if the apparent
water level increases as it settles out. So if you ever do find
"water" in your fuel tank while using gasohol, you might as well drain
the entire tank because the remaining gasoline in the tank will
probably have too low an octane rating to be safely used in your
Subaru engine.
When gas stations start using gasohol, they no longer have to drain
the water from their tank sumps because all the water gets pumped into
the gas tanks of their customers cars mixed with the fuel. On the
other hand, if the storage tank has a lot of water in it before that
first load of gasohol gets dumped into it, the next customers will
pump either low octane gas or the water/alcohol mix into their cars,
depending on whether the separation point ends up above or below the
level of the pump intakes.
Cold winter air can't hold a lot of water, so there isn't a lot to get
absorbed by the alcohol in the gasoline. Hot summer air can hold a lot
of water.
On May 10, 2008, at 2:10 PM, LarryMcFarland wrote:
> >
>
>
> Hi guys,
>
> Ive been pleased to read these posts on blended ethanol fuel as I
> fly a Subaru with Bings. After the first 40 test hours, Ive only
> used 87-octane at 10% ethanol. Poor winter weather limited flying to
> once a month and I have been concerned about water in the gasoline.
> At preflight, I drain enough fuel from each tank to fill a qt glass
> jar more than half way. Ive never found any sign of water or found
> less than clear fuel so its drained back into 5-gallon storage
> tanks. The oldest gas has been 10-12 weeks in the hangar before use
> and the Subarus performance doesnt seem to have been affected.
> Ive transferred older gas at the end of winter into my car with no
> apparent problems. Ive never seen signs of water in the 601s
> gascolator, the quart jar or the clear filter on the firewall. Im
> only optimistic that perhaps the fuel Im using is from stations
> that have rapid turnover fuel stocks and a handle on their water
> separation. Im going to fly a lot more this year and have also
> acquired a set of 5-gallon tanks that can be carried empty in the
> wing baggage area for ease of retrieving fuel from the street.
>
> Thats been the experience so far.
>
> Do fly safe,
>
> Larry McFarland 601HDS at www.macsmachine.com
>
--
Bryan Martin
N61BM, CH 601 XL,
RAM Subaru, Stratus redrive.
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Tim Shankland <tshankland(at)sbcglobal.net> |
| Subject: | Re: using 87-0ctane with ethanol |
I haven't really gotten into this but must make a comment. I remember
going to an FAA safety seminar about 25 or 30 years ago where we were
told in no uncertain terms that if we used auto fuel in our aircraft we
would DIE. They gave all the usual reasons, vapor lock, contamination
from "unsafe" fuel supplies etc. Then we found out when tested, other
than by all those pilots that were flying with it anyway, that it did
not do all those things and if we had any expensive piece of paper we
could use auto fuel in our airplanes. My Zodiac as a Suburu and I built
it with aluminum tanks and lines and the flexible lines are automotive,
you know those that tolerate gas and alcohol. I also talked to Bing
about my carburetors and they told me that since they were also used on
many ultra lights their materials were not effected by gasohol. When
people ask me how much aviation fuel cost I honestly don't know because
I get my gas at the Meijers Store.
Tim Shankland
Bryan Martin wrote:
>
>
> If you are using gasoline with 10% alcohol in it, you won't see any
> water in your samples or your gascolator because any water will be
> held in suspension in the fuel by the alcohol -- up to a point, that
> is. If enough water gets into the fuel, it will all settle out to the
> bottom of the tank taking the alcohol with it. At this point, you
> will now have gasoline with a significantly reduced octane rating
> floating over a mixture of water and alcohol, neither substance will
> do nice things for your engine. This is exactly how you test for
> alcohol in gasoline, mix about 10% water with the gas and see if the
> apparent water level increases as it settles out. So if you ever do
> find "water" in your fuel tank while using gasohol, you might as well
> drain the entire tank because the remaining gasoline in the tank
> will probably have too low an octane rating to be safely used in
> your Subaru engine.
>
> When gas stations start using gasohol, they no longer have to drain
> the water from their tank sumps because all the water gets pumped
> into the gas tanks of their customers cars mixed with the fuel. On
> the other hand, if the storage tank has a lot of water in it before
> that first load of gasohol gets dumped into it, the next customers
> will pump either low octane gas or the water/alcohol mix into their
> cars, depending on whether the separation point ends up above or
> below the level of the pump intakes.
>
> Cold winter air can't hold a lot of water, so there isn't a lot to
> get absorbed by the alcohol in the gasoline. Hot summer air can hold
> a lot of water.
>
> On May 10, 2008, at 2:10 PM, LarryMcFarland wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi guys,
>>
>> Ive been pleased to read these posts on blended ethanol fuel as I
>> fly a Subaru with Bings. After the first 40 test hours, Ive only
>> used 87-octane at 10% ethanol. Poor winter weather limited flying to
>> once a month and I have been concerned about water in the gasoline.
>> At preflight, I drain enough fuel from each tank to fill a qt glass
>> jar more than half way. Ive never found any sign of water or found
>> less than clear fuel so its drained back into 5-gallon storage
>> tanks. The oldest gas has been 10-12 weeks in the hangar before use
>> and the Subarus performance doesnt seem to have been affected.
>> Ive transferred older gas at the end of winter into my car with no
>> apparent problems. Ive never seen signs of water in the 601s
>> gascolator, the quart jar or the clear filter on the firewall. Im
>> only optimistic that perhaps the fuel Im using is from stations
>> that have rapid turnover fuel stocks and a handle on their water
>> separation. Im going to fly a lot more this year and have also
>> acquired a set of 5-gallon tanks that can be carried empty in the
>> wing baggage area for ease of retrieving fuel from the street.
>>
>> Thats been the experience so far.
>>
>> Do fly safe,
>>
>> Larry McFarland 601HDS at www.macsmachine.com
>>
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Jim Weston" <k4cod(at)bellsouth.net> |
Like so many I haven't sent anything to this list in quite a while. Good to
see some messages again.
Since you guys are talking about fuel and such, it got me to thinking about
my fuel system that is now 10 years old. Have any of you had any problems
at all with your Bing carbs? Have you rebuilt your carbs, if so what was
done to them; just a general cleanup and new gaskets, etc.? Just curious,
as I'm about to work on mine, since the engine is just not running as
smoothly as it used to, and I can't find anything else wrong.
Thanks,
Jim Weston
CH601HDS w/Stratus Subaru
Checked by AVG.
11:12 AM
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | LarryMcFarland <larry(at)macsmachine.com> |
Hi Jim,
I did an inspection of my Bings and replaced the rubber Diaphragm, the
float needle, the needle jet and main jets
because these are the pieces most prone to wear or damage. I did replace
all the gaskets, float pivot pins and
did a float check for position. The foam air filters still need
replacement.
On smooth running, I'd recommend a close look at distributor shaft run
out. The other thing is, don't replace
the flyweights in the distributor because that will certainly cause the
engine to run oddly rough. I did that thinking
parts were parts and the flyweights are very a specific match to the
original distributor case. I had to retrieve the
old flyweights and reinstall them to get back to a smooth running engine.
You could also check the stops on the Bings for alignment. My carbs are
linked directly on the Throttle shaft
thru a flex link and the stops touch down at the exact same time every
time. I removed the return springs on my
Bings and a single cable operates both carbs from one throttle link from
the firewall like any cessna or piper..
Larry McFarland
Jim Weston wrote:
>
> Like so many I haven't sent anything to this list in quite a while. Good to
> see some messages again.
>
> Since you guys are talking about fuel and such, it got me to thinking about
> my fuel system that is now 10 years old. Have any of you had any problems
> at all with your Bing carbs? Have you rebuilt your carbs, if so what was
> done to them; just a general cleanup and new gaskets, etc.? Just curious,
> as I'm about to work on mine, since the engine is just not running as
> smoothly as it used to, and I can't find anything else wrong.
>
> Thanks,
> Jim Weston
> CH601HDS w/Stratus Subaru
>
>
> Checked by AVG.
> 11:12 AM
>
>
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Jim Weston" <k4cod(at)bellsouth.net> |
Thanks Larry. I replaced my foam filters with K&N filters several years
ago, so that isn't an issue. I also replaced the rubber diaphragms about 20
hours ago. I still have the gasket set that came with them, but I'll need
to order the float needle and seat (assume that it is also replaceable).
Thanks for the tip on the distributor shaft. I'll check that. The
flyweights are the originals.
Thanks Again,
Jim
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-stratus-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-stratus-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of LarryMcFarland
Sent: Monday, May 12, 2008 11:35 AM
Subject: Re: Stratus-List: Bing Carbs
Hi Jim,
I did an inspection of my Bings and replaced the rubber Diaphragm, the
float needle, the needle jet and main jets
because these are the pieces most prone to wear or damage. I did replace
all the gaskets, float pivot pins and
did a float check for position. The foam air filters still need
replacement.
On smooth running, I'd recommend a close look at distributor shaft run
out. The other thing is, don't replace
the flyweights in the distributor because that will certainly cause the
engine to run oddly rough. I did that thinking
parts were parts and the flyweights are very a specific match to the
original distributor case. I had to retrieve the
old flyweights and reinstall them to get back to a smooth running engine.
You could also check the stops on the Bings for alignment. My carbs are
linked directly on the Throttle shaft
thru a flex link and the stops touch down at the exact same time every
time. I removed the return springs on my
Bings and a single cable operates both carbs from one throttle link from
the firewall like any cessna or piper..
Larry McFarland
Jim Weston wrote:
>
> Like so many I haven't sent anything to this list in quite a while. Good
to
> see some messages again.
>
> Since you guys are talking about fuel and such, it got me to thinking
about
> my fuel system that is now 10 years old. Have any of you had any problems
> at all with your Bing carbs? Have you rebuilt your carbs, if so what was
> done to them; just a general cleanup and new gaskets, etc.? Just curious,
> as I'm about to work on mine, since the engine is just not running as
> smoothly as it used to, and I can't find anything else wrong.
>
> Thanks,
> Jim Weston
> CH601HDS w/Stratus Subaru
>
>
> Checked by AVG.
> 11:12 AM
>
>
>
>
Checked by AVG.
7:44 AM
Checked by AVG.
7:31 AM
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | LarryMcFarland <larry(at)macsmachine.com> |
| Subject: | spark plugs and rain |
Hi guys,
I recently flew thru some rain showers and was wondering if there was
any prospect of fouling the plugs electrically. Nothing was noticed,
but the rain that washed over my canopy and wings got rid of a lot of
bugs. Is there any reason to worry about a light rain?
Larry McFarland 601HDS at www.macsmachine.com
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | gary <gkrysztopik(at)satx.rr.com> |
| Subject: | Re: spark plugs and rain |
I hope not - I've been thru some rain before and never had a problem.
gary
LarryMcFarland wrote:
>
>
> Hi guys,
>
> I recently flew thru some rain showers and was wondering if there was
> any prospect of fouling the plugs electrically. Nothing was noticed,
> but the rain that washed over my canopy and wings got rid of a lot of
> bugs. Is there any reason to worry about a light rain?
>
>
> Larry McFarland 601HDS at www.macsmachine.com
>
--
Gary Krysztopik
www.ZWheelz.com
San Antonio, TX
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Andy Fultz" <andynfultz(at)bellsouth.net> |
I'm trying to finalize my fuel system plumbing and was wondering what you
guys have found to be the best size of fuel line from the header tank to the
firewall? ? I'm installing a STRATUS EA-81 in my AVID Speedwing. I'm
thinking 1/4" will do as most of the fittings at the wing tanks and the
header tank are 1/8" NPT. 1/8" NPT fittings only have a 3/16" ID. Thanks.
Andy F.
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | gary <gkrysztopik(at)satx.rr.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Fuel Plumbing ? |
Andy Fultz wrote:
>
> I'm trying to finalize my fuel system plumbing and was wondering what you
> guys have found to be the best size of fuel line from the header tank to the
> firewall? ? I'm installing a STRATUS EA-81 in my AVID Speedwing. I'm
> thinking 1/4" will do as most of the fittings at the wing tanks and the
> header tank are 1/8" NPT. 1/8" NPT fittings only have a 3/16" ID. Thanks.
>
> Andy F.
>
I used 3/8" OD fuel line and a mix of 1/8" and 1/4" NPT fittings. it
should be tested for 150% fuel flow which is 12 gph for the Stratus. do
you have a 3-stage filter system (course finger strainers in the tanks,
gascolator with medium and fine fule filters before the carbs)? make
sure you do the fuel flow tests with the nose of the plane raised to max
climb attitude and measured from the fuel lines at the carb. are you
using a pump or pumps? i have a high wing and i didn't quite get the
16" head recommended during climb so i used two facet pumps. maybe more
than i needed but it's been working fine. the Stratus has the carbs on
the top of the engine vs lyco's that have them on the bottom which
provides adequate flow for high wings without pumps.
gary
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis)" <frank.hinde(at)hp.com> |
With the Facet Fuel pump 1/4" alu line is perfectly fine...For gravity feed (which
would make me a little nervous unless I proved it worked) I would use 3/8ths.
Frank
RV7a IO360..300 hours
601 HDS ..500 hours
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-stratus-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-stratus-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of gary
Sent: Sunday, July 06, 2008 6:16 AM
Subject: Re: Stratus-List: Fuel Plumbing ?
Andy Fultz wrote:
> -->
>
> I'm trying to finalize my fuel system plumbing and was wondering what
> you guys have found to be the best size of fuel line from the header
> tank to the firewall? ? I'm installing a STRATUS EA-81 in my AVID
> Speedwing. I'm thinking 1/4" will do as most of the fittings at the
> wing tanks and the header tank are 1/8" NPT. 1/8" NPT fittings only have a 3/16"
ID. Thanks.
>
> Andy F.
>
I used 3/8" OD fuel line and a mix of 1/8" and 1/4" NPT fittings. it should be
tested for 150% fuel flow which is 12 gph for the Stratus. do you have a 3-stage
filter system (course finger strainers in the tanks, gascolator with medium
and fine fule filters before the carbs)? make sure you do the fuel flow tests
with the nose of the plane raised to max climb attitude and measured from
the fuel lines at the carb. are you using a pump or pumps? i have a high wing
and i didn't quite get the 16" head recommended during climb so i used two facet
pumps. maybe more than i needed but it's been working fine. the Stratus
has the carbs on the top of the engine vs lyco's that have them on the bottom
which provides adequate flow for high wings without pumps.
gary
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | LarryMcFarland <larry(at)macsmachine.com> |
| Subject: | Tool list for the 601HDS |
Hi guys,
I just finished an AOPA article on tools for minor emergencies like a
flat tire, cracked canopy, a dinged wing or prop, belt or electrical
problem. Id started one, but after reading this article I visited
Harbor Freight, ORiellys and Farm and Fleet. The tools, spares, bag,
and rags weigh in at 10lbs. I spent a little over $50.00 for the tools I
didnt have, bought lightest and least costly where possible and only
good wrenches and sockets where necessary. I looked over my motorcycle
tool kit for what constitutes /essential /before hand. It was probably
worth the effort if only for peace of mind. Do "yard-sale" the sockets
and wrenches that don't fit anything on the plane.
TOOL KIT FOR THE 601HDS w/Stratus Subaru EA-81
Tire inner-tube replacement w/valve core and core removal tool.
Tire gage slider type 4-inch
Tube silicone sealant
Spark plug gapping tool
Tube anti-seize
6-inch adjustable wrench
Pliers, long nose, duck bill and wire cutter
Vise grips medium
Hammer, Small (kept in the tie-downs bag)
Screw driver, 4-in-1 combination, flat, Phillips, one right angle
Awl, 6-inch, 0 to 5/16-inch-dia.
Hex wrenches, metric and AS
Torque wrench 3/8-inch max 200 inch-lbs
Feeler gages - set valves
Small open-end wrenches 8mm-19mm
Open-end wrench set 3/8 - -inch
Socket set -inch with medium sockets 1/4-inch thru 3/4-inch
With 3/8 to -inch socket adapter
Spark plug socket 13/16-inch
Batteries 8 pack AA
Flashlight with 2 AA batteries
Voltmeter with continuity tone
Oil Filter wrench strap type with 10-inch x in dia. extension w/tee
Fuses, 3-5-7.5-10-15-20 amp
Tie-ties, 8-inch 12-pc
Duct tape, new 100-inch roll
.032 safety wire x 36-inch coiled
Hand cleaner packets (10)
Rags zip locked bagged shop rags and micro-fiber towels 4-each
3-oz sealed container, 10 washers, cotters 2 bolts, 8 screws, 4 nuts,
24-inches Tefzel 16-ga wire and 2-each common electrical terminals. 1
radiator hose elbow, 1 hose clamp, 1 pump belt.
Nylon Bag with zippers and belted nylon handles, 6 x 6 x 13-inches
Total weight = 10-lbs
Each of you would obviously have only similar requirements, so.........
Anyway, do fly safe guys,
Larry McFarland 601HDS at www.macsmachine.com
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Andy Fultz" <andynfultz(at)bellsouth.net> |
| Subject: | Setting up the prop |
Well,, my STRATUS EA-81 engine is now on the airframe and running. I'll
be installing a 72" WarpDrive prop with tapered tips. I'm looking for
suggestions for a starting point to set the prop pitch. AT what reference
point are your settings suggested? I think I'll start with max recommended
static RPM and I'll worry about increasing the pitch for a better cruise
later. Thanks in advance.
Andy F.
AVID Flyer w/Extended Speedwings
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | LarryMcFarland <larry(at)macsmachine.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Setting up the prop |
Hi Andy,
I'd recommend you start with the 15-degree pitch to keep your engine
loading light until you've cleared the
40-hour fly-off. Then go to 16, 16-1/2-degrees. When you're comfortable
with the handling for take off and
landings, and you've got the runway for it, 17-degrees is good for
cruising, but not a short runway..
This all presumes a bit on wing loading, but 15 is a good place to start.
Larry McFarland 601HDS at www.macsmachine.com
Andy Fultz wrote:
>
>
> Well,, my STRATUS EA-81 engine is now on the airframe and running. I'll
> be installing a 72" WarpDrive prop with tapered tips. I'm looking for
> suggestions for a starting point to set the prop pitch. AT what reference
> point are your settings suggested? I think I'll start with max recommended
> static RPM and I'll worry about increasing the pitch for a better cruise
> later. Thanks in advance.
>
> Andy F.
> AVID Flyer w/Extended Speedwings
>
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Andy Fultz" <andynfultz(at)bellsouth.net> |
| Subject: | Setting up the prop |
Thanks for the response, Larry. Is that measured at the tip or some other
location along the blade?
Andy F.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-stratus-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-stratus-list-server(at)matronics.com]On Behalf Of
LarryMcFarland
Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2008 8:39 AM
Subject: Re: Stratus-List: Setting up the prop
Hi Andy,
I'd recommend you start with the 15-degree pitch to keep your engine
loading light until you've cleared the
40-hour fly-off. Then go to 16, 16-1/2-degrees. When you're comfortable
with the handling for take off and
landings, and you've got the runway for it, 17-degrees is good for
cruising, but not a short runway..
This all presumes a bit on wing loading, but 15 is a good place to start.
Larry McFarland 601HDS at www.macsmachine.com
Andy Fultz wrote:
>
>
> Well,, my STRATUS EA-81 engine is now on the airframe and running.
I'll
> be installing a 72" WarpDrive prop with tapered tips. I'm looking for
> suggestions for a starting point to set the prop pitch. AT what reference
> point are your settings suggested? I think I'll start with max
recommended
> static RPM and I'll worry about increasing the pitch for a better cruise
> later. Thanks in advance.
>
> Andy F.
> AVID Flyer w/Extended Speedwings
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | gary <gkrysztopik(at)satx.rr.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Setting up the prop |
I have a Pelican and I've used 12 to 17 degrees. 14 to 16 give best
performance and I've left it at 16 for the past couple years. 12 would
allow rpm's past redline WOT in level flight and 16 won't get me to
redline WOT but it runs cooler and performance is fine. I have square
tips, 72". I think static at 16 is 4600 or so which is way below what
would be recommended for static but as long as you have a long runway
and set an abort point just in case then I wouldn't worry about a 4600
rpm (I think people would usually shoot for a couple hundred rpm below
redline to make sure max power is available).
How much does your Avid weigh? Speed wing or standard? I'm sure you'll
be happy with it, I'm still loving my Pelican with the Stratus every flight.
gary
Andy Fultz wrote:
>
>
> Well,, my STRATUS EA-81 engine is now on the airframe and running. I'll
> be installing a 72" WarpDrive prop with tapered tips. I'm looking for
> suggestions for a starting point to set the prop pitch. AT what reference
> point are your settings suggested? I think I'll start with max recommended
> static RPM and I'll worry about increasing the pitch for a better cruise
> later. Thanks in advance.
>
> Andy F.
> AVID Flyer w/Extended Speedwings
>
>
>
--
Gary Krysztopik
www.ZWheelz.com
San Antonio, TX
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Andy Fultz" <andynfultz(at)bellsouth.net> |
| Subject: | Setting up the prop |
Hello Gary,
I'm in the process of doing final paint and assembly now so I haven't done
the weight and balance yet. Don't know for sure what the completed weight
will be. I do know it won't be one of the lightest though.
Andy F.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-stratus-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-stratus-list-server(at)matronics.com]On Behalf Of gary
Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2008 9:03 AM
Subject: Re: Stratus-List: Setting up the prop
I have a Pelican and I've used 12 to 17 degrees. 14 to 16 give best
performance and I've left it at 16 for the past couple years. 12 would
allow rpm's past redline WOT in level flight and 16 won't get me to
redline WOT but it runs cooler and performance is fine. I have square
tips, 72". I think static at 16 is 4600 or so which is way below what
would be recommended for static but as long as you have a long runway
and set an abort point just in case then I wouldn't worry about a 4600
rpm (I think people would usually shoot for a couple hundred rpm below
redline to make sure max power is available).
How much does your Avid weigh? Speed wing or standard? I'm sure you'll
be happy with it, I'm still loving my Pelican with the Stratus every flight.
gary
Andy Fultz wrote:
>
>
> Well,, my STRATUS EA-81 engine is now on the airframe and running.
I'll
> be installing a 72" WarpDrive prop with tapered tips. I'm looking for
> suggestions for a starting point to set the prop pitch. AT what reference
> point are your settings suggested? I think I'll start with max
recommended
> static RPM and I'll worry about increasing the pitch for a better cruise
> later. Thanks in advance.
>
> Andy F.
> AVID Flyer w/Extended Speedwings
>
>
--
Gary Krysztopik
www.ZWheelz.com
San Antonio, TX
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | LarryMcFarland <larry(at)macsmachine.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Setting up the prop |
Andy,
I put the prop horizontal and use the warp drive pitch gage at the tip
of the blade.
It's very accurate.
Larry McFarland 601HDS at www.macsmachine.com
Andy Fultz wrote:
>
> Thanks for the response, Larry. Is that measured at the tip or some other
> location along the blade?
>
> Andy F.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-stratus-list-server(at)matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-stratus-list-server(at)matronics.com]On Behalf Of
> LarryMcFarland
> Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2008 8:39 AM
> To: stratus-list(at)matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Stratus-List: Setting up the prop
>
>
> Hi Andy,
> I'd recommend you start with the 15-degree pitch to keep your engine
> loading light until you've cleared the
> 40-hour fly-off. Then go to 16, 16-1/2-degrees. When you're comfortable
> with the handling for take off and
> landings, and you've got the runway for it, 17-degrees is good for
> cruising, but not a short runway..
> This all presumes a bit on wing loading, but 15 is a good place to start.
>
> Larry McFarland 601HDS at www.macsmachine.com
>
> Andy Fultz wrote:
>
>>
>
>
>> Well,, my STRATUS EA-81 engine is now on the airframe and running.
>>
> I'll
>
>> be installing a 72" WarpDrive prop with tapered tips. I'm looking for
>> suggestions for a starting point to set the prop pitch. AT what reference
>> point are your settings suggested? I think I'll start with max
>>
> recommended
>
>> static RPM and I'll worry about increasing the pitch for a better cruise
>> later. Thanks in advance.
>>
>> Andy F.
>> AVID Flyer w/Extended Speedwings
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | LarryMcFarland <larry(at)macsmachine.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Setting up the prop |
Andy,
I put the prop blade horizontal and use the warp drive pitch gage at the
very tip.
It's very accurate.
Larry McFarland 601HDS at www.macsmachine.com
Andy Fultz wrote:
>
> Thanks for the response, Larry. Is that measured at the tip or some other
> location along the blade?
>
> Andy F.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-stratus-list-server(at)matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-stratus-list-server(at)matronics.com]On Behalf Of
> LarryMcFarland
> Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2008 8:39 AM
> To: stratus-list(at)matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Stratus-List: Setting up the prop
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | gary <gkrysztopik(at)satx.rr.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Setting up the prop |
and I use a level on the bade to make sure it's horizontal and of course
you need to start with the plane leveled.
gary
LarryMcFarland wrote:
>
>
> Andy,
> I put the prop blade horizontal and use the warp drive pitch gage at
> the very tip.
> It's very accurate.
>
> Larry McFarland 601HDS at www.macsmachine.com
>
> Andy Fultz wrote:
>>
>>
>> Thanks for the response, Larry. Is that measured at the tip or some
>> other
>> location along the blade?
>>
>> Andy F.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: owner-stratus-list-server(at)matronics.com
>> [mailto:owner-stratus-list-server(at)matronics.com]On Behalf Of
>> LarryMcFarland
>> Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2008 8:39 AM
>> To: stratus-list(at)matronics.com
>> Subject: Re: Stratus-List: Setting up the prop
>>
>>
>
>
--
Gary Krysztopik
www.ZWheelz.com
San Antonio, TX
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Andy Fultz" <andynfultz(at)bellsouth.net> |
| Subject: | Setting up the prop |
Larry and Gray,
Thanks to the both of you for your input. I put the prop on today and set
it at 15 degrees for starts. I did use a level to make sure each blade was
level horizontally and then set the pitch on each blade. I rechecked as I
tightened and only had one move a little. I readjusted it. Checked the
tracking and one blade is out about 1/8" and one is out about 1/4" inch. I
would like to have seen them a little closer on the tracking. I didn't have
it tied down so I didn't run it over about 2200 RPM. I feel a littel
vibration but not as bad as some I've been in. Then I spent most of the
afternoon tying up the rats nest behind the panel. I just might actually
fly this thing before the end of the summer if I'm lucky. Thanks again
guys.
Andy F.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-stratus-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-stratus-list-server(at)matronics.com]On Behalf Of gary
Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2008 1:16 PM
Subject: Re: Stratus-List: Setting up the prop
and I use a level on the bade to make sure it's horizontal and of course
you need to start with the plane leveled.
gary
LarryMcFarland wrote:
>
>
> Andy,
> I put the prop blade horizontal and use the warp drive pitch gage at
> the very tip.
> It's very accurate.
>
> Larry McFarland 601HDS at www.macsmachine.com
>
> Andy Fultz wrote:
>>
>>
>> Thanks for the response, Larry. Is that measured at the tip or some
>> other
>> location along the blade?
>>
>> Andy F.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: owner-stratus-list-server(at)matronics.com
>> [mailto:owner-stratus-list-server(at)matronics.com]On Behalf Of
>> LarryMcFarland
>> Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2008 8:39 AM
>> To: stratus-list(at)matronics.com
>> Subject: Re: Stratus-List: Setting up the prop
>>
>>
>
>
--
Gary Krysztopik
www.ZWheelz.com
San Antonio, TX
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | LarryMcFarland <larry(at)macsmachine.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Redrive belt source |
Hi Bryan,
I just purchased a spare belt from Motion Industries, for near $70.00.
1920-5th Ave Moline, IL 61244 I also bought my spare set of re-drive
bearings from them
Good people to deal with. Very local for me, but they will ship to you.
Phone 309-797-1111
Larry McFarland
Bryan Martin wrote:
>
>
> Does anyone know a good source for the 880-8M-60 belt on the stratus
> redrive?
>
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Andy Fultz" <andynfultz(at)bellsouth.net> |
| Subject: | Remote Oil Filter ? |
Have any of you guys installed a remote oil filter kit on you r EA-81
engine? If so, where did you find it? I'm having a hard time finding one
with the correct size. The oil filter on my engine has an o-ring that is
2.25" ID and 2.5" OD. The smallest remote filter kit I can find has an
o-ring size of 2.5" ID and 2.75" OD. Any help appreciated.
Andy F.
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | gary <gkrysztopik(at)satx.rr.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Remote Oil Filter ? |
I pasted some old notes below - available from Summit racing. it was
about $100 and about 5lbs extra for all the hoses and hardware so I
skipped it. airflow over the oil pan seems to do just fine. the water
and oil cooling are related - i tried many different systems and poor water
cooling increased oil temps and poor oil cooling increased water temps. once
I removed the exhaust from being right behind the oil pan and got good airflow
around the oil pan and exhaust and a good radiator, everything was good.
A 11/16-16 female thread will fit loosely but may appear correct when
threaded to a male 3/4-16 male fitting. However the joint is around 1/3 as
strong (depends on the actual thread tolerances). The result is dangerous
however.
The soob EA81 Oil filter is now and has always been 3/4-16.
good luck,
gary
Andy Fultz wrote:
>
>
> Have any of you guys installed a remote oil filter kit on you r EA-81
> engine? If so, where did you find it? I'm having a hard time finding one
> with the correct size. The oil filter on my engine has an o-ring that is
> 2.25" ID and 2.5" OD. The smallest remote filter kit I can find has an
> o-ring size of 2.5" ID and 2.75" OD. Any help appreciated.
>
> Andy F.
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | gary <gkrysztopik(at)satx.rr.com> |
i replaced my main seal behind the flywheel a while ago because it was
weeping more and more. i left the seal sticking out about 1/16 - 1/8"
so it wouldn't ride on the same worn spot figuring next time i'd get the
sleeve that was offered with the seal. i had about 20 hrs with no leaks
at all.
now i have some weeping oil and it's hard to track down. i took the
prop off so it wouldn't get blown around and it looks like all of the
bolts holding the drive onto the crankcase are wet. this doesn't make
sense to me. i'll have to keep tracing it. i assumed it was the same
seal but it doesn't look like it. any guesses?
thanks,
gary
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | LarryMcFarland <larry(at)macsmachine.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Remote Oil Filter ? |
Hi Andy,
I've a friend Kelly Meiste who has a Stratus EA81 that uses a JC Whitney
sourced remote oil filter. A bit different, but
he says it works well, uses a standard size filter and reduces the oil
temps by 10-degrees or so.
Pictures attached
Larry McFarland 601HDS at www.macsmachine.com
Andy Fultz wrote:
>
>
> Have any of you guys installed a remote oil filter kit on you r EA-81
> engine? If so, where did you find it? I'm having a hard time finding one
> with the correct size. The oil filter on my engine has an o-ring that is
> 2.25" ID and 2.5" OD. The smallest remote filter kit I can find has an
> o-ring size of 2.5" ID and 2.75" OD. Any help appreciated.
>
> Andy F.
>
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis)" <frank.hinde(at)hp.com> |
| Subject: | Kit Planes accident and reliability article |
All good there..I guess my point was that shoddy workmanship was the reason
for these failures, but there maybe other similar failure modes in differe
nt engine packages.
Of course my experiences have made me biased too, but I guess getting parts
rebuilt from an aviation shop with years of experience just seems like a v
ery good idea when compared with a guy in a cylinder head shop who shrugs h
is shoulders when you look at him in disbelief at locktited/knurled valve g
uides as he says.."Thats how we always do it"..Yes and its just tried to ki
ll me for the third time!
Also the engine package is very application specific..I.e for a relatively
slow airplane like the Zodiac then an 8k Soob conversion is probably a pret
ty good deal (assuming you can be sure to avoid the shoddy workmanship...I.
e go to Ram Performance).
For a higher horsepower (and slicker airframe) a 180-200HP conversion will
cost very close to what a an experimental Lycoming clone will cost..Add to
that the higher fuel consumption due to the drag of radiators (thats my pos
ition until it has been proved otherwise) and the auto converstion really d
oes not look like it represents any savings at all..I mean lets assume an e
ngine life of 2000 hours and an extra gallon per hour due to the extra drag
of the automotive conversion...Well thats $8000 over the life of the motor
...Now that significantly reduces any cost savings of the automotve convers
ion.
Certainly I am not arguing the modern engine itself in its intended applica
tion (i.e a car) is less reliable than an a Lycoming...But when you convert
everything, deal with all the computers, figure out a vapour lock proof fu
el system, add a reduction drive...well you can see that the converted engi
ne is a very different animal than it was when firmly planted on the ground
.
As for me, if I was building another Zodiac....I't put a Soob in it..Better
the devil you know right?...:)
Gentlemen..it has been a pleasure working with you all in the past!
Frank
________________________________
From: owner-stratus-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-stratus-list-se
rver(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Don Walker
Sent: Sunday, August 31, 2008 8:04 PM
Subject: RE: Stratus-List: Kit Planes accident and reliability article
Frank,
to be honest, the reason we suffered the failures we did with the valve
guides is that these engines were rebuilt by people unfamiliar with aviatio
n. Rhiner had the work done by another shop during the last of his tenure a
nd that system followed until you and I started making waves.
The valves guides failed since they were Knurled guides. After mine fail
ed twice, I got another old soob and rebuilt it, but used the original guid
es, which were never taken out, and just transfered the redrive and intakes
systems to the new engine. This engine has done very well without using gu
ides with shoulders, etc.
What I am saying is that these engines were shoddy work and done withou
t an understanding of aviation...knurled guides...that is the sickening par
t to me. An original soob, or a soob with stock guides would do well if pro
perly installed...though the shoulders and better materials is a plus for s
ure. don
LarryMcFarland wrote:
Hi Frank,
The Kit Planes article is extremely well done and I don't contradict
what you said below. Their data only said internals of automotive
conversions and
perhaps carburetor systems were better represented than type certified
engines. The facts are not disputed, that cooling, ignition, fuel
systems and redrives
will be problematic so long as the user builder isn't totally aware of
what a good installation requires. It does take a little more education
for a Subaru
owner than for a Lyc or Cont because certified engines don't allow much
room for variation. If the owner does the study, I believe the Subaru
is capable of being
a better engine in cost per hour for the average builder. It's about
$8K for a Subaru now and $20+K for a Jabaru or 912 and much much more
for the TC engines.
I'm not an engine guy either Frank, but I learned a lot from the
difficulties you experienced and the travails you'd posted before me.
I also made mistakes, but none that cost any serious money or downtime
thanks to you.
Very best regards,
Larry McFarland 601HDS at www.macsmachine.com
Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis) wrote:
>
> Hmmmm.....
>
> I think that's a little bit of a sweeping statement there Larry..If you r
emember I suffered three valve guide failurs in my Subaru conversion..I wou
ld say that as I had only 400 hours that was an appalling failure rate..Fou
rtunately I was able to re-engineer the package and fix a fundamental flaw
in the suppliers product, but that's only because I have a lot of experienc
e in this area.
>
> Most folks I fear have little clue about such things, or about killer vap
our lock, how to engineer a cooling system etc.
>
> If somebody with my experience can have such troubles (and who bought an
engine package to avoid having to mess with the conversion itself) then the
average Joe has no chance.
>
> I would be interested to read the article because anecdotal evidence woul
d appear to dissagree with your statement.
>
> Hopefully the market will weed out poor engine conversions...But at a pot
entially great cost.
>
> Don't get me wrong there are one or two really good auto conversions, but
they certainly are not cheaper on the initial installation cost (comparing
an Eggenfelner Soob with an experimantal Lycoming clone) and if you add th
e extra cooling drag of a water cooled engine vs an aircooled (at least on
a fast airplane) then fuel consumption is going to be worse....Ok that last
statement is fiercely debated...:)
>
> Where auto conversions really shine is in rebuild costs are much less..Bu
t is that really a big factor in the overall cost of an airplane?..I person
ally doubt it.
>
> Frank
>
> 601 HDS Soob 400 hours
> RV7a 330 hours IO360 WAAY faster and better MPG than the Zodiac...:).Also
runs on pump gas
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-stratus-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-stratus-list-
server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of LarryMcFarland
> Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2008 8:56 AM
> To: zenith-list; stratus-list
> Subject: Stratus-List: Kit Planes accident and reliability article
>
> -->
>
>
> Hi Guys,
> The October issue of Kit Planes has a fine article on accidents and
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Project Almost Done - Cleaning House... |
| From: | "Don Honabach" <don(at)pcperfect.com> |
After over 10 years I'm almost done with my Zodiac 601HDS project (yes,
HDS) and I'm cleaning out/selling off the extras to make a little piece
in the family...
I've put up 2 Electric Gyros Indicators on eBay if anyone is interested:
RCA15AK-1 14V Electric Directional Gyro (Lighted)
http://tinyurl.com/6n66vm
RCA26AK-1 14V Electric Attitude Indicator Gyro (Lighted)
http://tinyurl.com/5nnfuu
Both are brand new, have zero hours and were bought at R.C. Allen Booth
at Oshkosh.
Don Honabach
Tempe, AZ
601HDS
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | dralle(at)matronics.com |
| Subject: | Matronics Email List Fund Raiser During November! |
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| From: | LarryMcFarland <larry(at)macsmachine.com> |
| Subject: | Strange goop in the overflow bottle |
Hi Guys,
This week begins the Annual Inspection of my 601HDS and one of the first
things was a coolant leak that dripped ever so slightly from the coolant
overflow bottle. Large filler hoses were moved out of the way. I tried
to siphon the last half-inch of coolant, but goop on the bottom
prevented it. The coolant bottle was removed and the last half-pint of
coolant was poured into another bottle. The bottom goop was very
different from the clean and transparent coolant. It was gray-black and
didnt act or feel like oil. After flushing the goop out of the bottle
in two level chunks, I put the goop on paper and it dried to a
gray-black cake. Rubbed between the fingers, it felt like an extremely
fine compound. The bottle was refilled and set on a shelf to check it
again for leakage. There was a leak spot on the back firewall side where
the bottle contacts a rivet head. I've another bottle to install but was
very curious about the accumulated 1/8-inch of goop on the bottom of the
coolant bottle. Any ideas of what it might be? I've never encountered
this before. It's not oil, nor does it leave a carbon trace on the
fingers. It washes off like regular soil. Volume was 1/8 x 2 x 3 lg. The
coolant bottle has never been changed or cleaned, but my coolant has
been changed twice at 60 hours. Any ideas?
Thank you for your response,
Larry McFarland 601HDS at www.macsmachine.com
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | gary <gkrysztopik(at)satx.rr.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Strange goop in the overflow bottle |
no idea Larry. maybe kick it over to flysoob for more feedback. I have
some floaties in my overflow bottle so maybe I'll clean it out and take
a closer look. It looks pretty cruddy but I was never concerned about
it. There's no goopy stuff, just light floating debris.
on another note, I finally found my oil leak and it was coming from the
main crank seal that I replaced about 20 hours ago. I left it out about
1/8" to move the seal away from the worn grove and maybe there wasn't
enough seal area around the edges. It was leaking from the outside at
the bottom. I got a new seal and one of those stainless steel speedy
sleeves so I'll see how that works out. It installed fine and looks
good so far (two runups with no prop).
gary
LarryMcFarland wrote:
>
>
> Hi Guys,
>
> This week begins the Annual Inspection of my 601HDS and one of the
> first things was a coolant leak that dripped ever so slightly from the
> coolant overflow bottle. Large filler hoses were moved out of the way.
> I tried to siphon the last half-inch of coolant, but goop on the
> bottom prevented it. The coolant bottle was removed and the last
> half-pint of coolant was poured into another bottle. The bottom goop
> was very different from the clean and transparent coolant. It was
> gray-black and didnt act or feel like oil. After flushing the goop
> out of the bottle in two level chunks, I put the goop on paper and it
> dried to a gray-black cake. Rubbed between the fingers, it felt like
> an extremely fine compound. The bottle was refilled and set on a shelf
> to check it again for leakage. There was a leak spot on the back
> firewall side where the bottle contacts a rivet head. I've another
> bottle to install but was very curious about the accumulated 1/8-inch
> of goop on the bottom of the coolant bottle. Any ideas of what it
> might be? I've never encountered this before. It's not oil, nor does
> it leave a carbon trace on the fingers. It washes off like regular
> soil. Volume was 1/8 x 2 x 3 lg. The coolant bottle has never been
> changed or cleaned, but my coolant has been changed twice at 60 hours.
> Any ideas?
>
> Thank you for your response,
>
> Larry McFarland 601HDS at www.macsmachine.com
>
>
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________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Trey Moran" <nail13zg(at)centurytel.net> |
| Subject: | Dual Bing Carbs Hookup |
Does anyone have specifics on how to hook up the dual bing carbs on the
Stratus Subaru engine to a single cable throttle, including cable part
numbers etc. Building a Kitfox 5
Trey Moran
KF 5
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | gary <gkrysztopik(at)satx.rr.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Dual Bing Carbs Hookup |
I used a cable splitter from Lockwood Aviation and bicycle cables.
Larry has a nice setup on his Zenith www.macsmachine.com
gary
Trey Moran wrote:
>
>
> Does anyone have specifics on how to hook up the dual bing carbs on
> the Stratus Subaru engine to a single cable throttle, including cable
> part numbers etc. Building a Kitfox 5
>
> Trey Moran
> KF 5
>
>
--
Gary Krysztopik
www.ZWheelz.com
San Antonio, TX
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | LarryMcFarland <larry(at)macsmachine.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Dual Bing Carbs Hookup |
Hi Trey,
I changed my dual-cable throttle setup to single cable sheath and a
music wire within and a connection that joins both Bings in a common link.
It's been working fine for 4 years now. Pictures on my sites engine and
controls pages show how it's hooked up. If you need more information,
just ask. Mine is also the Stratus, so it's informational specific.
See links,
www.macsmachine.com/html/subaruengine.htm
www.macsmachine.com/html/controllinkages.htm
http://www.macsmachine.com/images/controllinkages/full/throttlelink.gif
http://www.macsmachine.com/images/controllinkages/full/panelinflight(2).gif
My throttles on the panel side are common friction adjustable cables.
Larry McFarland 601HDS at www.macsmachine.com
Trey Moran wrote:
>
>
> Does anyone have specifics on how to hook up the dual bing carbs on
> the Stratus Subaru engine to a single cable throttle, including cable
> part numbers etc. Building a Kitfox 5
>
> Trey Moran
> KF 5
>
________________________________________________________________________________
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| From: | "Trey Moran" <nail13zg(at)centurytel.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Dual Bing Carbs Hookup |
Larry,
I am intrigued by how you hooked the two carbs using one cable. Can't figure
it out from the pictures. Can you give me a few details? Did you use any of
the Rotax hardware? Did you do the same thing for the choke?
Trey
----- Original Message -----
From: "LarryMcFarland" <larry(at)macsmachine.com>
Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 3:35 PM
Subject: Re: Stratus-List: Dual Bing Carbs Hookup
>
> Hi Trey,
> I changed my dual-cable throttle setup to single cable sheath and a music
> wire within and a connection that joins both Bings in a common link.
> It's been working fine for 4 years now. Pictures on my sites engine and
> controls pages show how it's hooked up. If you need more information,
> just ask. Mine is also the Stratus, so it's informational specific. See
> links,
> www.macsmachine.com/html/subaruengine.htm
> www.macsmachine.com/html/controllinkages.htm
> http://www.macsmachine.com/images/controllinkages/full/throttlelink.gif
> http://www.macsmachine.com/images/controllinkages/full/panelinflight(2).gif
> My throttles on the panel side are common friction adjustable cables.
>
> Larry McFarland 601HDS at www.macsmachine.com
>
> Trey Moran wrote:
>>
>>
>> Does anyone have specifics on how to hook up the dual bing carbs on the
>> Stratus Subaru engine to a single cable throttle, including cable part
>> numbers etc. Building a Kitfox 5
>>
>> Trey Moran
>> KF 5
>>
>
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | gary <gkrysztopik(at)satx.rr.com> |
I finally got around to buying a longer dipstick to account for me
converting from tricycle to tailwheel. I leveled the plane and the oil
was halfway between full and empty. When I put it back down on the
tailwheel and installed the new dipstick, it bottomed before showing any
oil. Any ideas?
gary
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | LarryMcFarland <larry(at)macsmachine.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Dual Bing Carbs Hookup |
Hi Trey,
I put the linkage arms to the inside between the bings and made a
linkage that connects both carbs at the linkage.
see link and note the solid tubes connected by a bent flex link, seen
between oil filler and alternator.
http://www.macsmachine.com/images/controllinkages/full/abingcarbscable.gif
The firewall linkage shown is the way I connected a A-820 friction
throttle with wire p/n 05-09436 control to my firewall mounted arms
each side and it allows the cable to push further without serious
bending of the larger throttle wire.
The collet fastener you see holding onto the throttle wire is called a
.078 wire grip and it allows you to
shorten the throttle wire and sheath p/n and attach the wire to the
linkage. p/n 05-16001 at aircraft spruce.
http://www.macsmachine.com/images/controllinkages/full/throttlelink.gif
Then see the .065 music wire connection between the firewall mounted arm
and the carburetor. It uses the sheath as a guide
http://www.macsmachine.com/images/controllinkages/full/throttlewire.gif
The pieces I made look like these two assemblies. Connecting link
between carbs and wire connection. See link.
http://www.macsmachine.com/images/controllinkages/full/Binglinkdwg.gif
The following link is my enrichment connection and it retains two cables
as before. Some call it a choke, but it pulls both cables.
http://www.macsmachine.com/images/controllinkages/full/choke2to1clamp.gif
This is really simple and works really well without any springs for the
throttle arms to get in the way. Works like any Cessna throttle.
Hope this helps a bit,
Larry McFarland
Trey Moran wrote:
>
>
> Larry,
>
> I am intrigued by how you hooked the two carbs using one cable. Can't
> figure it out from the pictures. Can you give me a few details? Did
> you use any of the Rotax hardware? Did you do the same thing for the
> choke?
>
> Trey
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "LarryMcFarland"
>
> To:
> Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 3:35 PM
> Subject: Re: Stratus-List: Dual Bing Carbs Hookup
>
>
>>
>>
>> Hi Trey,
>> I changed my dual-cable throttle setup to single cable sheath and a
>> music wire within and a connection that joins both Bings in a common
>> link.
>> It's been working fine for 4 years now. Pictures on my sites engine
>> and controls pages show how it's hooked up. If you need more
>> information,
>> just ask. Mine is also the Stratus, so it's informational specific.
>> See links,
>> www.macsmachine.com/html/subaruengine.htm
>> www.macsmachine.com/html/controllinkages.htm
>> http://www.macsmachine.com/images/controllinkages/full/throttlelink.gif
>> http://www.macsmachine.com/images/controllinkages/full/panelinflight(2).gif
>>
>> My throttles on the panel side are common friction adjustable cables.
>>
>> Larry McFarland 601HDS at www.macsmachine.com
>>
>> Trey Moran wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Does anyone have specifics on how to hook up the dual bing carbs on
>>> the Stratus Subaru engine to a single cable throttle, including
>>> cable part numbers etc. Building a Kitfox 5
>>>
>>> Trey Moran
>>> KF 5
>>>
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | LarryMcFarland <larry(at)macsmachine.com> |
Gary,
It would seem that you need to put the exact amount of oil that would
read full in any case and re-size the dipstick length to capture the
full mark with the tail down.
If it's a Stratus EA81, that should be 4 quarts with the short filter.
Larry McFarland 601HDS at www.macsmachine.com
gary wrote:
>
> I finally got around to buying a longer dipstick to account for me
> converting from tricycle to tailwheel. I leveled the plane and the
> oil was halfway between full and empty. When I put it back down on
> the tailwheel and installed the new dipstick, it bottomed before
> showing any oil. Any ideas?
>
> gary
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | gary <gkrysztopik(at)satx.rr.com> |
the new dipstick is a generic replacement - it is very long. it bottoms
out on the bottom in the oil pan without showing any oil when there is
sufficient oil. I don't know exactly where the dipstick ends up
relative to the oil pan or oil level - maybe I need to pull the oil pan
and see - but I'm guessing that I need to figure out a different way to
check the oil level or maybe get one of RAM's oversized oil pans.
gary
LarryMcFarland wrote:
>
>
> Gary,
> It would seem that you need to put the exact amount of oil that would
> read full in any case and re-size the dipstick length to capture the
> full mark with the tail down.
> If it's a Stratus EA81, that should be 4 quarts with the short filter.
>
> Larry McFarland 601HDS at www.macsmachine.com
>
>
> gary wrote:
>>
>> I finally got around to buying a longer dipstick to account for me
>> converting from tricycle to tailwheel. I leveled the plane and the
>> oil was halfway between full and empty. When I put it back down on
>> the tailwheel and installed the new dipstick, it bottomed before
>> showing any oil. Any ideas?
>>
>> gary
>>
>>
>>
>>
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| From: | "Trey Moran" <nail13zg(at)centurytel.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Dual Bing Carbs Hookup |
Hi Larry,
Thanks for the individual pics with explanations. That really helps. One
last question (I hope). Where did you get the throttle arm that allows you
to push for power? Right now, my throttle arms are spring loaded to the idle
position (based on fact that the spring holds the arm against the idle set
screw) and any direct cable connection to the arm is a "pull to add power"
connection.
Trey
----- Original Message -----
From: "LarryMcFarland" <larry(at)macsmachine.com>
Sent: Saturday, November 08, 2008 8:44 AM
Subject: Re: Stratus-List: Dual Bing Carbs Hookup
>
> Hi Trey,
> I put the linkage arms to the inside between the bings and made a linkage
> that connects both carbs at the linkage.
> see link and note the solid tubes connected by a bent flex link, seen
> between oil filler and alternator.
> http://www.macsmachine.com/images/controllinkages/full/abingcarbscable.gif
>
> The firewall linkage shown is the way I connected a A-820 friction
> throttle with wire p/n 05-09436 control to my firewall mounted arms
> each side and it allows the cable to push further without serious bending
> of the larger throttle wire.
>
> The collet fastener you see holding onto the throttle wire is called a
> .078 wire grip and it allows you to
> shorten the throttle wire and sheath p/n and attach the wire to the
> linkage. p/n 05-16001 at aircraft spruce.
> http://www.macsmachine.com/images/controllinkages/full/throttlelink.gif
>
> Then see the .065 music wire connection between the firewall mounted arm
> and the carburetor. It uses the sheath as a guide
> http://www.macsmachine.com/images/controllinkages/full/throttlewire.gif
>
> The pieces I made look like these two assemblies. Connecting link between
> carbs and wire connection. See link.
> http://www.macsmachine.com/images/controllinkages/full/Binglinkdwg.gif
>
> The following link is my enrichment connection and it retains two cables
> as before. Some call it a choke, but it pulls both cables.
> http://www.macsmachine.com/images/controllinkages/full/choke2to1clamp.gif
>
> This is really simple and works really well without any springs for the
> throttle arms to get in the way. Works like any Cessna throttle.
> Hope this helps a bit,
>
> Larry McFarland
>
>
> Trey Moran wrote:
>>
>>
>> Larry,
>>
>> I am intrigued by how you hooked the two carbs using one cable. Can't
>> figure it out from the pictures. Can you give me a few details? Did you
>> use any of the Rotax hardware? Did you do the same thing for the choke?
>>
>> Trey
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "LarryMcFarland"
>>
>> To:
>> Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 3:35 PM
>> Subject: Re: Stratus-List: Dual Bing Carbs Hookup
>>
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi Trey,
>>> I changed my dual-cable throttle setup to single cable sheath and a
>>> music wire within and a connection that joins both Bings in a common
>>> link.
>>> It's been working fine for 4 years now. Pictures on my sites engine and
>>> controls pages show how it's hooked up. If you need more information,
>>> just ask. Mine is also the Stratus, so it's informational specific.
>>> See links,
>>> www.macsmachine.com/html/subaruengine.htm
>>> www.macsmachine.com/html/controllinkages.htm
>>> http://www.macsmachine.com/images/controllinkages/full/throttlelink.gif
>>> http://www.macsmachine.com/images/controllinkages/full/panelinflight(2).gif
>>> My throttles on the panel side are common friction adjustable cables.
>>>
>>> Larry McFarland 601HDS at www.macsmachine.com
>>>
>>> Trey Moran wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Does anyone have specifics on how to hook up the dual bing carbs on the
>>>> Stratus Subaru engine to a single cable throttle, including cable part
>>>> numbers etc. Building a Kitfox 5
>>>>
>>>> Trey Moran
>>>> KF 5
>>>>
>
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | gary <gkrysztopik(at)satx.rr.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Dual Bing Carbs Hookup |
Mine came that way too but I reversed them. I had to get new throttle
arms and a shorter starter. I would prefer, and it is aircraft
convention, to have springs pull throttle on as default if cable breaks
or slips.
gary
Trey Moran wrote:
>
>
> Hi Larry,
>
> Thanks for the individual pics with explanations. That really helps.
> One last question (I hope). Where did you get the throttle arm that
> allows you to push for power? Right now, my throttle arms are spring
> loaded to the idle position (based on fact that the spring holds the
> arm against the idle set screw) and any direct cable connection to the
> arm is a "pull to add power" connection.
>
> Trey
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis)" <frank.hinde(at)hp.com> |
| Subject: | Dual Bing Carbs Hookup |
Trey,
Larry has a good piece of design as he has overcome what is something of a flaw
in the original design. That is using springs to pull open the carbs.
There was a famous accident where a 701 was using the springs and the owner found
these a little stiff..he's right they were.
So he either found a weaker spring or removed one of them..Something like that.
Anyway, the owner decided to do a go around and the spring did not pull the carbs
open and it ended up in the trees.
Larry's design is a solid push/pull that does not require spring..It is indeed
just like my Lycoming on my RV and well worth doing IMHO.
Frank
601 HDS 400 hours
RV71 IO360 330 hours...And whole lot more distance..:)
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-stratus-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-stratus-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Trey Moran
Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2008 8:18 AM
Subject: Re: Stratus-List: Dual Bing Carbs Hookup
-->
Hi Larry,
Thanks for the individual pics with explanations. That really helps. One last question
(I hope). Where did you get the throttle arm that allows you to push for
power? Right now, my throttle arms are spring loaded to the idle position (based
on fact that the spring holds the arm against the idle set
screw) and any direct cable connection to the arm is a "pull to add power"
connection.
Trey
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | LarryMcFarland <larry(at)macsmachine.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Dual Bing Carbs Hookup |
Trey,
I didn't replace the throttle arms, only removed the springs that kept a
force on them. I did remove the throttle arm
on the carb opposite of the push pull linked carb.
http://www.macsmachine.com/images/controllinkages/full/abinghardcablelink.gif
The cable attachment at the arms end rotates in the arm and allows the
music wire to push and pull without
binding.
http://www.macsmachine.com/images/controllinkages/full/abingrtlinkopen.gif
http://www.macsmachine.com/images/controllinkages/full/abingleftlink.gif
http://www.macsmachine.com/images/controllinkages/full/abinghardcablelink.gif
Larry McFarland
Trey Moran wrote:
>
>
> Hi Larry,
>
> Thanks for the individual pics with explanations. That really helps.
> One last question (I hope). Where did you get the throttle arm that
> allows you to push for power? Right now, my throttle arms are spring
> loaded to the idle position (based on fact that the spring holds the
> arm against the idle set screw) and any direct cable connection to the
> arm is a "pull to add power" connection.
>
> Trey
>
________________________________________________________________________________
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As of the 13th, the Fund Raiser is currently about 30% behind last year in terms
of the number of Contributions. Yet, oddly the number of messages posted per
day is up by 10 to 20% on the average. It costs real money to run these Lists
and they are supported 100% though your Contributions during the Fund Raiser.
Won't you please take a minute right now to make your Contribution to keep
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Thank you for your support!
Matt Dralle
Email List Admin.
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | What's My Contribution Used For? |
Dear Listers,
Some have asked, "What's my Contribution used for?" and that's a good question.
Here are just a few examples of what your direct List support enables. It provides
for the very expensive, commercial-grade T1 Internet connection used on
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But most importantly, your List Contribution enables a forum where you and your
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It is YOUR CONTRIBUTION that directly enables these many aspects of these valuable
List services. Please support it today with your List Contribution. Its
one of the best investments you can make in your Sport...
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Thank you for your support!
Matt Dralle
Email List Administrator
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | What Members Are Saying... |
Dear Listers,
November is the Annual Matronics List Fund Raiser. The Lists are supported solely
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Listers have been including some really nice comments regarding what the Lists
mean to them along with their Contributions this year. I've included a few of
them below. Please read them over and see if some perhaps echo your feelings
as well.
Thank you for your support this year!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List and Forum Administrator
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Behind By 21% - Advertising May Be Needed...? |
Dear Listers,
The percentage of people making a Contribution to support the Lists this year is
currently lagging behind last year by approximately 21%! I'm hoping that everyone
is just waiting until the last minute to show their support... ;-)
Please remember that it is solely your direct Contributions that keep these Lists
up and running and most importantly - AD FREE! If the members don't want to
support the Lists directly, then I will likely have to start adding advertisements
to offset the costs of running the Lists. But I *really* don't want to
have to start doing that. I really like the non-commercial atmosphere here and
I think that a lot of the members appreciate that too.
Please take a moment to make a Contribution today in support of the continued ad-free
operation of all these Lists:
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I want to send out a word of appreciation to all of the members that have already
made their generous Contribution to support the Lists! Thank you!
Matt Dralle
Email List Administrator
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
Dear Listers,
Each year at the end of the List Fund Raiser, I post a message acknowledging everyone
that so generously made a Contribution to support the Lists. Its sort
of my way of publicly thanking everyone that took a minute to show their appreciation
for the Lists.
Won't you take a moment and assure that your name is on that List of Contributors
(LOC)? As a number of members have pointed out over the years, the List seems
at least - if not a whole lot more - valuable as a building/flying/recreating/entertainment
tool as your typical magazine subscription!
Please take minute and assure that your name is on this year's LOC! Show others
that you appreciate the Lists. Making a Contribution to support the Lists is
fast and easy using your Credit card or Paypal on the Secure Web Site:
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or by popping a personal check in the mail to:
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I would like to thank everyone that has so generously made a Contribution thus
far in this year's List Fund Raiser! Remember that its YOUR support that keeps
these Lists going and improving! Don't forget to include a little comment about
how the Lists have helped you!
Best regards,
Matt Dralle
Email List Administrator
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Value of the List... |
If you look forward to checking your List email everyday (and a lot of you have
written to say that you do!), then you're probably getting at least $20 or $30
worth of Entertainment from the Lists each year. You'd pay twice that for a
subscription to some lame magazine or even just a single dinner out. Isn't the
List worth at least that much to you?
Won't you please take a minute to make your Contribution today and support the
Lists?
Contribution Page:
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Again, I want to say THANK YOU to everyone that has made a Contribution thus far
during this year's List Fund Raiser!! These Lists are made possible exclusively
through YOUR generosity!!
Thank you for your support!
Matt Dralle
Email List Admin.
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Just A Few More Days... |
Dear Listers,
There are just a few more days left in this year's List Fund Raiser. There are
some great gifts available when you make a qualifying Contribution and there's
plenty still available. Don't forget that its *your* Contribution that keeps
the computers running, the electricity turned on, and the computer room AC cooling!
If you look forward to reading your List email each day, won't you please take
a minute right now to make your personal Contribution?
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Personal Check:
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Thank you for your support!
Matt Dralle
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Just 3 Days Left - Please Make Your List Contribution Today! |
There are only three days left until the end of this year's List Fund Raiser.
Please take a minute to show your support as so many others have this year and
make sure YOUR name is on the forthcoming List of Contributors 2008!
Its quick and easy using the secure web site with a credit card or PayPal:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
or by sending your personal check to:
Matronics Lists c/o Matt Dralle
PO Box 347
Livermore, CA 94551-0347
(Please write your email address on the check!)
Thank you in advance for your support of these List services!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email and Forum Administrator
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | What Listers Have Been Saying |
Wow! Many of the members making a List Support Contribution this year have been
using the Comments field to leave a personal message about the Lists. Thank
you! I have included a number of them below. Please read over a few and see
if you perhaps can echo some of the same sentiments regarding the value of the
Lists to you...
There is only a couple more days left for this year's List Fund Raiser and we're
still way behind previous years. If you've been waiting until the last minute
to show your support, Now is the Time! Please make your Contribution and pick
up a great gift at the same time!
By Credit Card or Paypal:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
or By Personal Check:
Matronics / Matt Dralle
PO Box 347
Livermore, CA 94550-7227
Thank you in advance!!
Matt Dralle
Email List and Forums Administrator
Here is some of the great feedback members have been including along with their
personal Contributions this year...
Over the years, the info I have received from the RV-List has
saved me thousands of dollars, and dozens of hours of time by
helping me avoid bad purchases, pointing me at vendors with
low prices and excellent support, and providing solutions to
the typical head scratchers that you run into.
Kevin H
Valuable service. Best List(s) on the Internet!
George A
Please accept this token not as an indicator of what
this list has been worth to me this past year.
Lew G
Great information and entertainment.
Tim V
Thanks again for another great year of service. This
project would be beyond me if it were not for the list.
Moreover, the friendships I have found are worth their
weight in GOLD!
Robert B
Great support you provide to all the subscribers!
Freddie H
Read it every day.
PF B
Thanks for your excellent management of the Matronics
Lists! Your services are head and shoulders above the
rest.
James M
Without the "List", there would be no Kolb "community".
Bill T
Thanks, Matt, for a great service! I've been monitoring
and using the lists since 1999.
Richard D
Thanks for such a terrific site and for all the work and
effort you put into it.
John R
A great service year after year.
John D
..another year of fantastic service.
Jerry B
This list is a great resource.
Arden A
Great list.
James M
Lists were a great help while building HRII N561FS.
John S
Great resources for both the beginner and experienced.
George R
Good service.
Gary G
The List is an invaluable resource!
William C
AeroElectric list is a great source of info and learning!
Janice J
Thank you, Matt for being there for us making it all happen
on the List for so many years - Great JOB!
Sam S
Thank you for providing a great venue. You definitely hit
the nail on the head with your solicitation asking if
readers look forward to receiving the email digests. I
certainly do and when I move from a dreamer to a builder, I
expect the anticipation will only increase.
Joe S
Thanks for a Perfect working list.
Hans-Peter R
Great List
Bryan K
Such a great selection of valuable forums!
David G
Nice job!
Walt E
Good resource...
Robert P
Thank you for another great year!
Scott S
I could not do this without you...
Robert D
I believe I've been a list member for over a decade
now. Thanks for the service!
Tim L
Great List
Hendrik W
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Last "Official" Day Of The List Fund Raiser! |
Dear Listers,
Its November 30th and that means three things:..
1) Today I am now officially 45 years old...
2) It marks that last "official" day of this year's List Fund Raiser!
3) Its the last day I will be bugging everyone for a whole year!
If you use the Lists and enjoy the content and the no-advertising, no-spam, and
no-censorship way in which they're run, please make a Contribution today to support
their continued operation and upkeep. Your $20 or $30 goes a long way
to keep the List bills paid.
I will be posting the List of Contributors next week so make sure your name is
on it!
Thank you to everyone that has made a Contribution so far this year! It is greatly
appreciated.
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Best regards,
Matt Dralle
Email List and Forum Administrator
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | List of Contributors 2008 |
Dear Listers,
This year's Fund Raiser has drawn to a close and I want to thank everyone that
so generously made a contribution this year in support of the Matronics Email
List and Forum operation. Your generosity keeps the wheels on this cart and I
truly appreciate the many kind words of encouragement and financial reimbursement.
If you haven't yet made a Contribution in support of this year's Fund Raiser, please
feel free to do so. The great List Fund Raiser gifts will be available
on the Contribution site for a little while longer, so hurry and make your Contribution
today and still get your great gift! Once again, the URL for the Contribution
web site is:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
or by personal check to:
Matronics / Matt Dralle
PO Box 347
Livermore CA 94551-0347
I would like to thank Andy Gold of the Builder's Bookstore ( http://www.buildersbooks.com ), Jon Croke of HomebuiltHELP ( http://www.homebuilthelp.com ) and Bob Nuckolls of AeroElectric ( http://www.aeroelectric.com ) for their extremely generous support during this year's Fund Raiser through the contribution of discounted merchandise. These are great guys that support the aviation industry and I encourage each and every Lister to have a look at their products. Thank you Andy, Jon and Bob!! Your support is very much appreciated!
And finally, below you will find a web link to the 2008 List of Contributors current
as of 12/7/08! Have a look at this list of names as *these* are the people
that make all of these List services possible! I can't thank each of you
enough for your support and great feedback during this year's Fund Raiser!
THANK YOU!
http://www.matronics.com/loc/2008.html
I will be shipping out all of the gifts around the end of December. In most cases,
gifts will be shipped via US Postal Service.
Once again, thank you for making this year's List Fund Raiser successful!
Best regards,
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
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| From: | LarryMcFarland <larry(at)macsmachine.com> |
Hi Guys,
Our winter snow has everything white and the holidays are fully under
way. Ive come to really appreciate the warmth of our friends here, our
new twin grandsons Edgar and Cecil and family at home. And Toby my cat,
but my mind wanders to images from 2500 feet, with the snow below and
white overcast above. Last falls green patchwork of farms now looks
like an arctic landscape. The half mile wide Mississippi between Iowa
and Illinois draws sharp contrast of brown and white as ice flows pile
up around small islands all the way to Muscatine. Lots of deer can
easily be seen trailing through the woods. Winter birds soar around the
dams and Ill have to keep an eye out for the occasional eagle that will
pass. The cold air and open countryside are bleak but beautiful in
winter and flying it is just the best. The Stratus Subaru in my 601
likes cold weather and it still sounds like a sweet sewing machine. I
cant wait for the early winter wind to steady out and the MLI snowplow
to cross in front of my hangar so it can begin again. To all of you who
share this miracle of electronic conversation and debate, I wish you and
yours a Merry Christmas and Happy New Year from Quad Cities of
northwestern Illinois.
Larry McFarland 601HDS at www.macsmachine.com <http://www.macsmachine.com/>
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| From: | "Jim Weston" <k4cod(at)bellsouth.net> |
Hello Everyone,
This may have been discussed before, and I'm just not remembering, but what
is everyone doing for oil filters; since they stopped manufacturing the
stubby Wix filters?
I just started flying my plane again after a really, really long break. It
sure feels good.
Happy Flying,
Jim Weston
CH601HDS w/Stratus
Concord, Georgia USA
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| From: | Bryan Martin <bryanmmartin(at)comcast.net> |
A Wix (or NAPA) 57035 will fit, it's also used on some Briggs and
Stratton engines. It's the same size as the discontinued part number.
I bought a dozen earlier this year from an eBay store listing. Item
number: 270055221465. The picture in the eBay listing is wrong, but if
you look at the item page the correct picture is shown in the full
description. They list for $75/dozen but I offered him $60 and he
accepted, he might take less. NAPA filters are made by Wix.
A Fram PH8170 also looks like it will fit. Item number: 400016559846
on eBay. I haven't tried this one, I'e heard Fram filters aren't as
good as Wix.
>
>
> Hello Everyone,
>
> This may have been discussed before, and I'm just not remembering,
> but what
> is everyone doing for oil filters; since they stopped manufacturing
> the
> stubby Wix filters?
>
--
Bryan Martin
N61BM, CH 601 XL,
RAM Subaru, Stratus redrive.
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| From: | Don Walker <d3dw(at)sbcglobal.net> |
Hi Jim,
--That is a lawn tractor filter and a number of folks make them, includ
ing John Deere and Briggs and Stratton.- Hastings makes one that is reaso
nable priced, too.- If you can't find one let me know. I have a few of th
e Wix.-
-
Hastings LF 503--- or Briggs and Stratton 5049
-
-Don Walker
-
-
--- On Sat, 1/3/09, Jim Weston wrote:
From: Jim Weston <k4cod(at)bellsouth.net>
Subject: Stratus-List: Oil Filters
Date: Saturday, January 3, 2009, 6:24 AM
Hello Everyone,
This may have been discussed before, and I'm just not remembering, but what
is everyone doing for oil filters; since they stopped manufacturing the
stubby Wix filters?
I just started flying my plane again after a really, really long break. It
sure feels good.
Happy Flying,
Jim Weston
CH601HDS w/Stratus
Concord, Georgia USA
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| From: | gary <gkrysztopik(at)satx.rr.com> |
Welcome back to the sky. I bought a case of those filters when I heard
they were being discontinued. I don't mind selling one here and there
but it sounds like there are replacements.
Gary Krysztopik
www.ZWheelz.com
San Antonio, TX
Jim Weston wrote:
>
> Hello Everyone,
>
> This may have been discussed before, and I'm just not remembering, but what
> is everyone doing for oil filters; since they stopped manufacturing the
> stubby Wix filters?
>
> I just started flying my plane again after a really, really long break. It
> sure feels good.
>
> Happy Flying,
> Jim Weston
> CH601HDS w/Stratus
> Concord, Georgia USA
>
>
>
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| From: | LarryMcFarland <larry(at)macsmachine.com> |
Hi Jim,
Go to your Lowe's building supply store or equivalent and find the
Briggs & Stratton ELS Series Part Number 5076
This is a premium filter and it is what I use. There's a black Briggs as
well that looks the same and can be used also.
Larry McFarland 601HDS at www.macsmachine.com
Jim Weston wrote:
>
> Hello Everyone,
>
> This may have been discussed before, and I'm just not remembering, but what
> is everyone doing for oil filters; since they stopped manufacturing the
> stubby Wix filters?
>
> I just started flying my plane again after a really, really long break. It
> sure feels good.
>
> Happy Flying,
> Jim Weston
> CH601HDS w/Stratus
> Concord, Georgia USA
>
>
>
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| From: | "Kelly Meiste" <kellymeiste(at)jcwifi.com> |
Hi Jim, or anyone else that is looking for the original Stratus supplied Wix
oil filter.
I purchased a case before Wix discontinued this filter (#51065). I have
switched over to a remote oil filter which take a much larger filter.
Anyway I still have 5 filters left that I will not be needing. If anyone is
interested in them drop me a email.
Kelly Meiste
601 HD Stratus 158 hours
> This may have been discussed before, and I'm just not remembering, but
> what
> is everyone doing for oil filters; since they stopped manufacturing the
> stubby Wix filters?
>
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| From: | gary <gkrysztopik(at)satx.rr.com> |
Kelly,
How is your remote oil filter working out? Did you add an oil cooler
too? If not, did the remote filter reduce temps at all? I wonder if
moving the filter to some cool airflow would make a noticeable
difference without the added weight and space of an oil cooler.
Gary
Kelly Meiste wrote:
>
>
> Hi Jim, or anyone else that is looking for the original Stratus
> supplied Wix oil filter.
> I purchased a case before Wix discontinued this filter (#51065). I
> have switched over to a remote oil filter which take a much larger
> filter. Anyway I still have 5 filters left that I will not be
> needing. If anyone is interested in them drop me a email.
>
> Kelly Meiste
> 601 HD Stratus 158 hours
>
>
>> This may have been discussed before, and I'm just not remembering,
>> but what
>> is everyone doing for oil filters; since they stopped manufacturing the
>> stubby Wix filters?
>
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| From: | "Kelly Meiste" <kellymeiste(at)jcwifi.com> |
Hi Gary, good to hear from you again, hope all is well.
I like the remote filter mainly for the ease of changing the filter (no more
knuckle busting). I also added the J.C. Whitney cooling fins that goes
around the filter. Adding the remote filter with the much larger canister,
plus the added lines allows me to hold an additional qt. of oil in my
engine.
My filter is now located under the passengers feet, not totally in free
moving air because it's only a few inches off the belly of the plane, but
still better than between the oil pan and muffler! I did not add an oil
cooler. My oil & water temps dropped about 5 deg each with remote filter &
fins (with air at 72 deg & cruising at 4,000 rpm my water now runs about
200, and oil around 210 at 58 psi).
Have a happy 09!
Kelly
PS. As I'm writing this my son is landing at his home in Midland TX. Guess
he didn't want to spend the winter here in the cold & snowy northern IL
(must be nice).
----- Original Message -----
From: "gary" <gkrysztopik(at)satx.rr.com>
Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2009 2:44 PM
Subject: Re: Stratus-List: Oil Filters
>
> Kelly,
>
> How is your remote oil filter working out? Did you add an oil cooler too?
> If not, did the remote filter reduce temps at all? I wonder if moving the
> filter to some cool airflow would make a noticeable difference without the
> added weight and space of an oil cooler.
>
> Gary
>
> Kelly Meiste wrote:
>>
>>
>> Hi Jim, or anyone else that is looking for the original Stratus supplied
>> Wix oil filter.
>> I purchased a case before Wix discontinued this filter (#51065). I have
>> switched over to a remote oil filter which take a much larger filter.
>> Anyway I still have 5 filters left that I will not be needing. If anyone
>> is interested in them drop me a email.
>>
>> Kelly Meiste
>> 601 HD Stratus 158 hours
>>
>>
>>
>>> This may have been discussed before, and I'm just not remembering, but
>>> what
>>> is everyone doing for oil filters; since they stopped manufacturing the
>>> stubby Wix filters?
>>
>
>
>
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| From: | "Andy Fultz" <andynfultz(at)bellsouth.net> |
Kelly,
Do you recall which remote oil filter kit you used? I got one and it is
certainly not an exact fit. If I recall correctly the diameter of the seal
is a little biggr than that on the original oil filter. This makes the
actual seal barely catch the inside diameter of the rubber gasket. I'm not
real comfortable and would like to find a better fitting unit. I'm not at
the hangar and I can't seem to remember exactly what brand mine is. Thanks.
Andy
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-stratus-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-stratus-list-server(at)matronics.com]On Behalf Of Kelly
Meiste
Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2009 12:51 PM
Subject: Re: Stratus-List: Oil Filters
Hi Jim, or anyone else that is looking for the original Stratus supplied Wix
oil filter.
I purchased a case before Wix discontinued this filter (#51065). I have
switched over to a remote oil filter which take a much larger filter.
Anyway I still have 5 filters left that I will not be needing. If anyone is
interested in them drop me a email.
Kelly Meiste
601 HD Stratus 158 hours
> This may have been discussed before, and I'm just not remembering, but
> what
> is everyone doing for oil filters; since they stopped manufacturing the
> stubby Wix filters?
>
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Kelly Meiste" <kellymeiste(at)jcwifi.com> |
Andy,
I purchased my remote oil filter kit from J.C. Whitney, the brand name was
"Perma Cool".
It was sold as a "universal" remote kit. It had 2 different fitting to mate
the remote adapter to my engine block (one was a very good fit if I recall).
They also supply 4 different threaded inserts to mate with the engine blocks
threaded stud which the filter spins onto. Again one was a good fit.
I've been running this setup since April of 06 with no problems or leaks.
Kelly
----- Original Message -----
From: "Andy Fultz" <andynfultz(at)bellsouth.net>
Sent: Sunday, January 04, 2009 3:06 PM
Subject: RE: Stratus-List: Oil Filters
>
>
> Kelly,
>
> Do you recall which remote oil filter kit you used? I got one and it is
> certainly not an exact fit. If I recall correctly the diameter of the
> seal
> is a little biggr than that on the original oil filter. This makes the
> actual seal barely catch the inside diameter of the rubber gasket. I'm
> not
> real comfortable and would like to find a better fitting unit. I'm not at
> the hangar and I can't seem to remember exactly what brand mine is.
> Thanks.
>
> Andy
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-stratus-list-server(at)matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-stratus-list-server(at)matronics.com]On Behalf Of Kelly
> Meiste
> Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2009 12:51 PM
> To: stratus-list(at)matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Stratus-List: Oil Filters
>
>
>
>
> Hi Jim, or anyone else that is looking for the original Stratus supplied
> Wix
> oil filter.
> I purchased a case before Wix discontinued this filter (#51065). I have
> switched over to a remote oil filter which take a much larger filter.
> Anyway I still have 5 filters left that I will not be needing. If anyone
> is
> interested in them drop me a email.
>
> Kelly Meiste
> 601 HD Stratus 158 hours
>
>
>> This may have been discussed before, and I'm just not remembering, but
>> what
>> is everyone doing for oil filters; since they stopped manufacturing the
>> stubby Wix filters?
>>
>
>
>
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| From: | gary <gkrysztopik(at)satx.rr.com> |
I have notes that say it's a 3/4-16 thread but it would be worth
checking with a dealer or parts place first.
Gary
Kelly Meiste wrote:
>
>
> Andy,
>
> I purchased my remote oil filter kit from J.C. Whitney, the brand name
> was "Perma Cool".
> It was sold as a "universal" remote kit. It had 2 different fitting
> to mate the remote adapter to my engine block (one was a very good fit
> if I recall). They also supply 4 different threaded inserts to mate
> with the engine blocks threaded stud which the filter spins onto.
> Again one was a good fit.
> I've been running this setup since April of 06 with no problems or leaks.
>
> Kelly
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andy Fultz"
>
> To:
> Sent: Sunday, January 04, 2009 3:06 PM
> Subject: RE: Stratus-List: Oil Filters
>
>
>>
>>
>> Kelly,
>>
>> Do you recall which remote oil filter kit you used? I got one and
>> it is
>> certainly not an exact fit. If I recall correctly the diameter of
>> the seal
>> is a little biggr than that on the original oil filter. This makes the
>> actual seal barely catch the inside diameter of the rubber gasket.
>> I'm not
>> real comfortable and would like to find a better fitting unit. I'm
>> not at
>> the hangar and I can't seem to remember exactly what brand mine is.
>> Thanks.
>>
>> Andy
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: owner-stratus-list-server(at)matronics.com
>> [mailto:owner-stratus-list-server(at)matronics.com]On Behalf Of Kelly
>> Meiste
>> Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2009 12:51 PM
>> To: stratus-list(at)matronics.com
>> Subject: Re: Stratus-List: Oil Filters
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi Jim, or anyone else that is looking for the original Stratus
>> supplied Wix
>> oil filter.
>> I purchased a case before Wix discontinued this filter (#51065). I have
>> switched over to a remote oil filter which take a much larger filter.
>> Anyway I still have 5 filters left that I will not be needing. If
>> anyone is
>> interested in them drop me a email.
>>
>> Kelly Meiste
>> 601 HD Stratus 158 hours
>>
>>
>>
>>> This may have been discussed before, and I'm just not remembering, but
>>> what
>>> is everyone doing for oil filters; since they stopped manufacturing the
>>> stubby Wix filters?
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Jim Weston" <k4cod(at)bellsouth.net> |
Thanks Larry, and everyone else that responded. I had noticed the Briggs &
Stratton filters, but I wasn't sure about the quality or the pressure
handling ability, since I don't have a pressure gauge on my riding mower.
Since others are having good luck, I suppose that I'll just use the Briggs
filter the next time.
Thanks Again,
Jim Weston 601HDS
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-stratus-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-stratus-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of LarryMcFarland
Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2009 10:31 AM
Subject: Re: Stratus-List: Oil Filters
Hi Jim,
Go to your Lowe's building supply store or equivalent and find the
Briggs & Stratton ELS Series Part Number 5076
This is a premium filter and it is what I use. There's a black Briggs as
well that looks the same and can be used also.
Larry McFarland 601HDS at www.macsmachine.com
Jim Weston wrote:
>
> Hello Everyone,
>
> This may have been discussed before, and I'm just not remembering, but
what
> is everyone doing for oil filters; since they stopped manufacturing the
> stubby Wix filters?
>
> I just started flying my plane again after a really, really long break.
It
> sure feels good.
>
> Happy Flying,
> Jim Weston
> CH601HDS w/Stratus
> Concord, Georgia USA
>
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "galaxyone(at)juno.com" <galaxyone(at)juno.com> |
That may be close but everything else on the Subaru is Metric.
Henry
-- gary wrote:
I have notes that say it's a 3/4-16 thread but it would be worth
checking with a dealer or parts place first.
Gary
Kelly Meiste wrote:
>
>
> Andy,
>
> I purchased my remote oil filter kit from J.C. Whitney, the brand name
> was "Perma Cool".
> It was sold as a "universal" remote kit. It had 2 different fitting
> to mate the remote adapter to my engine block (one was a very good fit
> if I recall). They also supply 4 different threaded inserts to mate
> with the engine blocks threaded stud which the filter spins onto.
> Again one was a good fit.
> I've been running this setup since April of 06 with no problems or lea
ks.
>
> Kelly
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andy Fultz"
>
> To:
> Sent: Sunday, January 04, 2009 3:06 PM
> Subject: RE: Stratus-List: Oil Filters
>
>
>>
>>
>> Kelly,
>>
>> Do you recall which remote oil filter kit you used? I got one and
>> it is
>> certainly not an exact fit. If I recall correctly the diameter of
>> the seal
>> is a little biggr than that on the original oil filter. This makes t
he
>> actual seal barely catch the inside diameter of the rubber gasket.
>> I'm not
>> real comfortable and would like to find a better fitting unit. I'm
>> not at
>> the hangar and I can't seem to remember exactly what brand mine is.
>> Thanks.
>>
>> Andy
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: owner-stratus-list-server(at)matronics.com
>> [mailto:owner-stratus-list-server(at)matronics.com]On Behalf Of Kelly
>> Meiste
>> Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2009 12:51 PM
>> To: stratus-list(at)matronics.com
>> Subject: Re: Stratus-List: Oil Filters
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi Jim, or anyone else that is looking for the original Stratus
>> supplied Wix
>> oil filter.
>> I purchased a case before Wix discontinued this filter (#51065). I h
ave
>> switched over to a remote oil filter which take a much larger filter.
>> Anyway I still have 5 filters left that I will not be needing. If
>> anyone is
>> interested in them drop me a email.
>>
>> Kelly Meiste
>> 601 HD Stratus 158 hours
>>
>>
>>
>>> This may have been discussed before, and I'm just not remembering, b
ut
>>> what
>>> is everyone doing for oil filters; since they stopped manufacturing
the
>>> stubby Wix filters?
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
November 03, 2006 - February 18, 2009
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