TeamGrumman-List Archive Browser

TeamGrumman-Archive.digest.vol-bv
May 21, 2012 - June 21, 2012

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Date: May 21, 2012
From: Gary Vogt <teamgrumman(at)yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: 1976 AA5A for Sale
Does it have purple glue? ________________________________ From: "n26390(at)aol.com" <n26390(at)aol.com> Sent: Monday, May 21, 2012 2:22 PM Subject: TeamGrumman-List: 1976 AA5A for Sale A friend of mine is advertising the sale of his Cheetah. His contact number is 954-725-8024 and his email address is n9747u(at)aol.com. Aircraft TT 2931 and 942 SMOH with all ADs current and he's asking $30,000. Painted in 2008 ($13K), had split nose done in 2011, wing tanks resealed in 2010, and has 1/2 inch thick windshield installed. More pics are available. Please contact him for any questions or needs for additional information. ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: May 21, 2012
From: Gary Vogt <teamgrumman(at)yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: 1976 AA5A for Sale
why are there only pics of the right side of the plane? -open the other s ide of the cowling and take pics.=0A=0A=0A________________________________ =0A From: "n26390(at)aol.com" <n26390(at)aol.com>=0ATo: teamgrumman-list@matronic s.com =0ASent: Monday, May 21, 2012 2:22 PM=0ASubject: TeamGrumman-List: 19 76 AA5A for Sale=0A =0A=0AA friend of mine is advertising the sale of his C heetah. His contact number is 954-725-8024 and his email address is n9747u@ aol.com. Aircraft TT 2931 and 942 SMOH with all ADs current and he's asking $30,000. Painted in 2008 ($13K), had split nose done in 2011, wing tanks r esealed in 2010, and has 1/2 inch thick windshield installed. More pics are available. Please contact him for any questions or needs for additional in formation. ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: 1976 AA5A for Sale
From: n26390(at)AOL.COM
Date: May 21, 2012
Gary: Please contact the owner. Roger Rucker AA5A '78 HWO -----Original Message----- From: Gary Vogt <teamgrumman(at)yahoo.com> Sent: Mon, May 21, 2012 8:52 pm Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: 1976 AA5A for Sale Does it have purple glue? From: "n26390(at)aol.com" <n26390(at)aol.com> Sent: Monday, May 21, 2012 2:22 PM Subject: TeamGrumman-List: 1976 AA5A for Sale A friend of mine is advertising the sale of his Cheetah. His contact number is 954-725-8024 and his email address is n9747u(at)aol.com. Aircraft TT 2931 and 942 SMOH with all ADs current and he's asking $30,000. Painted in 2008 ($13K), had split nose done in 2011, wing tanks resealed in 2010, and has 1 /2 inch thick windshield installed. More pics are available. Please contact him for any questions or needs for additional information. -= - The TeamGrumman-List Email Forum - -= Use the Matronics List Features Navigator to browse -= the many List utilities such as List Un/Subscription, -= Archive Search & Download, 7-Day Browse, Chat, FAQ, -= Photoshare, and much much more: - -= --> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?TeamGrumman-List - -======================== -= - MATRONICS WEB FORUMS - -= Same great content also available via the Web Forums! - -= --> http://forums.matronics.com - -======================== -= - List Contribution Web Site - -= Thank you for your generous support! -= -Matt Dralle, List Admin. -= --> http://www.matronics.com/contribution -======================== ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: 1976 AA5A for Sale
From: n26390(at)AOL.COM
Date: May 21, 2012
Gary: Please contact the owner. -----Original Message----- From: Gary Vogt <teamgrumman(at)yahoo.com> Sent: Mon, May 21, 2012 8:53 pm Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: 1976 AA5A for Sale why are there only pics of the right side of the plane? open the other sid e of the cowling and take pics. From: "n26390(at)aol.com" <n26390(at)aol.com> Sent: Monday, May 21, 2012 2:22 PM Subject: TeamGrumman-List: 1976 AA5A for Sale A friend of mine is advertising the sale of his Cheetah. His contact number is 954-725-8024 and his email address is n9747u(at)aol.com. Aircraft TT 2931 and 942 SMOH with all ADs current and he's asking $30,000. Painted in 2008 ($13K), had split nose done in 2011, wing tanks resealed in 2010, and has 1 /2 inch thick windshield installed. More pics are available. Please contact him for any questions or needs for additional information. -= - The TeamGrumman-List Email Forum - -= Use the Matronics List Features Navigator to browse -= the many List utilities such as List Un/Subscription, -= Archive Search & Download, 7-Day Browse, Chat, FAQ, -= Photoshare, and much much more: - -= --> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?TeamGrumman-List - -======================== -= - MATRONICS WEB FORUMS - -= Same great content also available via the Web Forums! - -= --> http://forums.matronics.com - -======================== -= - List Contribution Web Site - -= Thank you for your generous support! -= -Matt Dralle, List Admin. -= --> http://www.matronics.com/contribution -======================== ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: May 21, 2012
Subject: Re: 1976 AA5A for Sale
From: Bob Steward <n76lima(at)mindspring.com>
Probably not. The serial number is out of the range usually associated with the purple glue. --Bob Steward [Gary] Does it have purple glue? ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: May 21, 2012
From: Gary Vogt <teamgrumman(at)yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: 1976 AA5A for Sale
thanks. -just curious.=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0A From: Bob Steward =0ATo: teamgrumman-list(at)matronics.com =0ASent: Monday, May 21, 2012 6:04 PM=0ASubject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: 1976 76lima(at)mindspring.com>=0A=0AProbably not. The serial number is out of the r ange usually associated with the purple glue.=0A--Bob Steward=0A=0A[Gary] D - - - - - - - - - - - - -Matt Dralle, List Admin. ==== ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Jaguar Cowl Plugs
From: Gary L Vogt <teamgrumman(at)yahoo.com>
Date: May 21, 2012
Those are really cool. Gary Sent from my iPad On May 21, 2012, at 5:08 PM, brian sandberg wrote: > I just had a set made by planecover.com. Jim Cancil does nice work; these have a rubberized material to grip the inside of the inlet. I figure he ke pt the templates. Delivered for $70.60, photo attached. > > -Brian > N119ST @ 2W6 > ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Fresh Air Vent
From: "pkuhns" <pkuhns(at)gmail.com>
Date: May 22, 2012
I have the Excel air vents (below the yoke) that John used to sell. I think he stopped making those because of manufacturing issues (?). Not sure. Anyway, they're great eyeball types. You might want to call Excel and just see if there are any left stuck in a shelf somewhere. -------- N27161, 1979 Grumman (Gulfstream) Cheetah Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=373570#373570 ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Fwd: Inlet Plugs for Jaguar Cowl on a Tiger
From: 923TE <923te(at)att.net>
Date: May 22, 2012
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From: David Troup <david(at)troup.net>
Subject: Fresh air vents
Date: May 22, 2012
I replaced the air vents in our Tiger back in 2005 with replacement vents that I bought from Air Mods N.W. I think they may actually be replacement auto vents, but they are a direct replacement. You need to install them with blind rivets, so you'll need a blind rivet gun ($15 from Amazon.) The air vents themselves were $68.50 and included installation instructions. The part number was AVK1545-500. Try giving them a call at 425-334-3030 and see if they still sell them. For me, that was the best solution; easy, inexpensive, and they are still like new seven years later. David Troup Tiger N28797 (SQL) ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Fresh Air Vent
From: "gketell" <greg(at)ketell.com>
Date: May 22, 2012
I have a "brand new", never used set of the vents Ken Blackman at Airmods Northwest used to sell. I won them as a door prize at AYA2006. I no longer have a plane so... Make me an offer. Figure $9 to ship them to continental US. Greg K Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=373609#373609 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/vents_164.jpg ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Fresh Air Vent
From: Claude Allen <allenc3(at)bellsouth.net>
Date: May 22, 2012
$120 including shipping? Sent from my iPhone On May 22, 2012, at 8:35 PM, "gketell" wrote: > > I have a "brand new", never used set of the vents Ken Blackman at Airmods Northwest used to sell. I won them as a door prize at AYA2006. I no longer have a plane so... > > Make me an offer. Figure $9 to ship them to continental US. > > Greg K > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=373609#373609 > > > > > Attachments: > > http://forums.matronics.com//files/vents_164.jpg > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "923te" <923te(at)att.net>
Subject: Inlet Plugs for Jaguar Cowl on a Tiger
Date: May 22, 2012
----- Original Message ----- From: Jim_Cancil/Planecover.com Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2012 7:03 AM Subject: Re: Inlet Plugs for Jaguar Cowl on a Tiger Ahhh ..."Jaguar Cowl". I had not heard the name. I will make a set and send them with invoice. $65 + $7 shipping. Thanks. Jim On Tue, May 22, 2012, at 03:25 AM, 923TE wrote: Hi Jim, Brian Sandberg sent me a picture of the plugs you made for his Jaguar cowled Tiger. I'd like to buy a pair same red color as his with my N923TE embroidered on one of them. He said they were about $70. I can PayPal, credit card or mail a check. Just let me know total cost to make them and send to me at Thanks, Ned <>< Email had 1 attachment: a.. photo.JPG 2.0M (image/jpeg) ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Fresh Air Vent
From: n32romeo(at)AOL.COM
Date: May 22, 2012
$30? I'll drive by and pick them up.... Rich Harrison -----Original Message----- From: gketell <greg(at)ketell.com> Sent: Tue, May 22, 2012 5:36 pm Subject: TeamGrumman-List: Re: Fresh Air Vent I have a "brand new", never used set of the vents Ken Blackman at Airmods Northwest used to sell. I won them as a door prize at AYA2006. I no longe r have a plane so... Make me an offer. Figure $9 to ship them to continental US. Greg K Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=373609#373609 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/vents_164.jpg ________________________________________________________________________________
From: BILL9725(at)AOL.COM
Date: May 23, 2012
Subject: Re: Fresh Air Vent
In case this becomes a bidding war for these vents, I think they should be at least $150, even more since we all need them. So my offer $175 plus shipping, and I know that is a still a good price. Bill S In a message dated 5/22/2012 6:04:19 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, allenc3(at)bellsouth.net writes: --> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: Claude Allen $120 including shipping? Sent from my iPhone On May 22, 2012, at 8:35 PM, "gketell" wrote: > --> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: "gketell" > > I have a "brand new", never used set of the vents Ken Blackman at Airmods Northwest used to sell. I won them as a door prize at AYA2006. I no longer have a plane so... > > Make me an offer. Figure $9 to ship them to continental US. > > Greg K > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=373609#373609 > > > > > Attachments: > > http://forums.matronics.com//files/vents_164.jpg > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________
From: Dan Schmitz <Dan.Schmitz(at)calix.com>
Subject: Inlet Plugs for Jaguar Cowl on a Tiger
Date: May 23, 2012
And I threw in my own order. Dan Schmitz Tiger 4518B KASH From: owner-teamgrumman-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-teamgrumman -list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of 923te Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2012 10:02 PM Subject: TeamGrumman-List: Inlet Plugs for Jaguar Cowl on a Tiger ----- Original Message ----- From: Jim_Cancil/Planecover.com<mailto:cancil(at)fastmail.fm> Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2012 7:03 AM Subject: Re: Inlet Plugs for Jaguar Cowl on a Tiger Ahhh ..."Jaguar Cowl". I had not heard the name. I will make a set and s end them with invoice. $65 + $7 shipping. Thanks. Jim On Tue, May 22, 2012, at 03:25 AM, 923TE wrote: Hi Jim, Brian Sandberg sent me a picture of the plugs you made for his Jaguar cowle d Tiger. I'd like to buy a pair same red color as his with my N923TE embroi dered on one of them. He said they were about $70. I can PayPal, credit car d or mail a check. Just let me know total cost to make them and send to me at Thanks, Ned ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Fresh Air Vent
From: Scott Trejo <md11strejo(at)yahoo.com>
Date: May 23, 2012
I'll offer you $190 plus shipping Scott Trejo Sent from my iPhone On May 23, 2012, at 10:46 AM, BILL9725(at)AOL.COM wrote: > In case this becomes a bidding war for these vents, I think they should be at least $150, even more since we all need them. > > So my offer $175 plus shipping, and I know that is a still a good price. > > Bill S > > In a message dated 5/22/2012 6:04:19 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, allenc3@b ellsouth.net writes: t> > > $120 including shipping? > > Sent from my iPhone > > On May 22, 2012, at 8:35 PM, "gketell" wrote: > > > > > I have a "brand new", never used set of the vents Ken Blackman at Airmod s Northwest used to sell. I won them as a door prize at AYA2006. I no long er have a plane so... > > > > Make me an offer. Figure $9 to ship them to continental US. > > > > Greg K > > > > > > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=373609#373609 > > > > > > > > > > Attachments: > > > > http://forums.matronics.com//files/vents_164.jpg > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Use ilities ay - MATRONICS WEB FORUMS - List Con tribution Web Site p; > > > > > ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= > ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: May 23, 2012
Subject: Re: Inlet Plugs for Jaguar Cowl on a Tiger
From: Carol Stocker <stockercarolm(at)gmail.com>
I have the LoPresti cowl...how about me??? N28742......I'd like a set... Carol On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 11:57 AM, Dan Schmitz wrote: > And I threw in my own order.**** > > ** ** > > Dan Schmitz**** > > Tiger 4518B **** > > KASH**** > > ** ** > > *From:* owner-teamgrumman-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto: > owner-teamgrumman-list-server(at)matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *923te > *Sent:* Tuesday, May 22, 2012 10:02 PM > *To:* teamgrumman-list(at)matronics.com > *Subject:* TeamGrumman-List: Inlet Plugs for Jaguar Cowl on a Tiger**** > > ** ** > > **** > > ----- Original Message ----- **** > > *From:* Jim_Cancil/Planecover.com **** > > *To:* 923TE <923te(at)att.net> **** > > *Sent:* Tuesday, May 22, 2012 7:03 AM**** > > *Subject:* Re: Inlet Plugs for Jaguar Cowl on a Tiger**** > > ** ** > > **** > > Ahhh ..."Jaguar Cowl". I had not heard the name. I will make a set and > send them with invoice. $65 + $7 shipping. Thanks.**** > > **** > > Jim**** > > **** > > **** > > **** > > **** > > **** > > On Tue, May 22, 2012, at 03:25 AM, 923TE wrote:**** > > Hi Jim,**** > > Brian Sandberg sent me a picture of the plugs you made for his Jaguar > cowled Tiger. I'd like to buy a pair same red color as his with my N923TE > embroidered on one of them. He said they were about $70. I can PayPal, > credit card or mail a check. Just let me know total cost to make them and > send to me at**** > > Thanks,**** > > Ned**** > > **** > > * > > * > > ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: May 23, 2012
From: Gary Vogt <teamgrumman(at)yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Fresh Air Vent
Bill,-=0A=0AWhy not make a faceplate over the entire airbox. -Make it o ut of .020 aluminum, paint it flat black. -=0A=0AThen install three or fo ur of these per side.=0A=0Ahttp://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/appages/pl asticeyeball.php=0A=0A=0ALots cheaper. -=0A=0A=0AGary=0A=0A=0A___________ _____________________=0A From: "BILL9725(at)AOL.COM" <BILL9725(at)AOL.COM>=0ATo: teamgrumman-list(at)matronics.com =0ASent: Wednesday, May 23, 2012 8:46 AM=0AS ubject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Re: Fresh Air Vent=0A =0A=0AIn case this beco mes a bidding war for these vents, I think they should be =0Aat least $150, even more since we all need them.- =0A-=0ASo my offer $175 plus shippi ng, and I know that is a still a good =0Aprice.- =0A-=0ABill S =0A- =0AIn a message dated 5/22/2012 6:04:19 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, =0Aalle nc3(at)bellsouth.net writes:=0A--> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: Claude Allen =0A>=0A>$120 including shipping?=0A>=0A>Sent from =0A my iPhone=0A>=0A>On May 22, 2012, at 8:35 PM, "gketell" =0A wrote:=0A>=0A>> --> TeamGrumman-List message =0A posted by: "gketell" =0A>> =0A>> I have a "brand =0A new", never us ed set of the vents Ken Blackman at Airmods Northwest used to =0A sell.- I won them as a door prize at AYA2006.- I no longer have a =0A plane so ...=0A>> =0A>> Make me an offer.- Figure $9 to ship them to =0A continen tal US.=0A>> =0A>> Greg K=0A>> =0A>> =0A>> =0A>> =0A>> Read this topic onli ne here:=0A>> =0A>> =0A http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=3736 09#373609=0A>> =0A>> =0A>> =0A>> =0A>> Attachments: =0A>> =0A>> =0A http:/ /forums.matronics.com//files/vents_164.jpg=0A>> =0A>> =0A>> =0A>> =0A>> =0A >> =0A>> =0A Use =0Ailities =0Aay =0A - - - - - -- - MATRONI CS WEB FORUMS =0A - - - - -- - List Contribution Web Site =0Ap ; - =0A - - - - - - - - - - - =0A>=0A>=0A>=0A> =0A ================== ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: May 23, 2012
From: Gary Vogt <teamgrumman(at)yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Inlet Plugs for Jaguar Cowl on a Tiger
Any updates on your cowl . . -. speed? -CHTs?=0A=0A=0A_________________ _______________=0A From: Dan Schmitz <Dan.Schmitz(at)calix.com>=0ATo: "teamgru mman-list(at)matronics.com" =0ASent: Wednesda y, May 23, 2012 8:57 AM=0ASubject: RE: TeamGrumman-List: Inlet Plugs for Ja guar Cowl on a Tiger=0A =0A=0A =0AAnd I threw in my own order.=0A-=0ADan Schmitz=0ATiger 4518B =0AKASH=0A-=0AFrom:owner-teamgrumman-list-server@ma tronics.com [mailto:owner-teamgrumman-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of 923te=0ASent: Tuesday, May 22, 2012 10:02 PM=0ATo: teamgrumman-list@matr onics.com=0ASubject: TeamGrumman-List: Inlet Plugs for Jaguar Cowl on a Tig er=0A-=0A-=0A----- Original Message ----- =0AFrom:Jim_Cancil/Planecover .com =0ATo:923TE =0ASent:Tuesday, May 22, 2012 7:03 AM=0ASubject:Re: Inlet Plugs for Jaguar Cowl on a Tiger=0A-=0A-=0A-Ahhh ..."Jaguar Cowl". -I had not heard the name. -I will make a set and send them with invoic e. -$65 + $7 shipping. -Thanks.=0A-=0AJim=0A-=0A-=0A-=0A-=0A -=0AOn Tue, May 22, 2012, at 03:25 AM, 923TE wrote:=0AHi Jim,=0A>Brian Sa ndberg sent me a picture of the plugs you made for his Jaguar cowled Tiger. I'd like to buy a pair same red color as his with my N923TE embroidered on one of them. He said they were about $70. I can PayPal, credit card or mai l a check. Just let me know total cost to make them and send to me at=0A>Th =========================0A ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: May 23, 2012
From: Gary Vogt <teamgrumman(at)yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Inlet Plugs for Jaguar Cowl on a Tiger
They won't fit. -The Jaguar cowling has an elliptical opening. -LoPrest i is round.=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0A From: Carol Stocker =0ATo: teamgrumman-list(at)matronics.com =0ASent: We dnesday, May 23, 2012 10:32 AM=0ASubject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Inlet Plugs for Jaguar Cowl on a Tiger=0A =0A=0AI have the LoPresti cowl...how about m e???- N28742......I'd like a set...=0ACarol=0A=0A=0AOn Wed, May 23, 2012 at 11:57 AM, Dan Schmitz wrote:=0A=0AAnd I threw in my own order.=0A>-=0A>Dan Schmitz=0A>Tiger 4518B =0A>KASH=0A>-=0A>From :owner-teamgrumman-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-teamgrumman-list -server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of 923te=0A>Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2012 10 :02 PM=0A>To: teamgrumman-list(at)matronics.com=0A>Subject: TeamGrumman-List: Inlet Plugs for Jaguar Cowl on a Tiger=0A>-=0A>-=0A>----- Original Mess age ----- =0A>From:Jim_Cancil/Planecover.com =0A>To:923TE =0A>Sent:Tuesday, May 22, 2012 7:03 AM=0A>Subject:Re: Inlet Plugs for Jaguar Cowl on a Tiger =0A>-=0A>-=0A>-Ahhh ..."Jaguar Cowl". -I had not heard the name. -I will make a set and send them with invoice. -$65 + $7 shipping. -T hanks.=0A>-=0A>Jim=0A>-=0A>-=0A>-=0A>-=0A>-=0A>On Tue, May 22, 2012, at 03:25 AM, 923TE wrote:=0A>Hi Jim,=0A>>Brian Sandberg sent me a pic ture of the plugs you made for his Jaguar cowled Tiger. I'd like to buy a p air same red color as his with my N923TE embroidered on one of them. He sai d they were about $70. I can PayPal, credit card or mail a check. Just let me know total cost to make them and send to me at=0A>>Thanks,=0A>>Ned=0A>> -=0A>st" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?TeamGrumman -List=0Atp://forums.matronics.com=0A_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contri ==================== ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Cowling
From: "mbcrisp" <mbcrisp87(at)gmail.com>
Date: May 23, 2012
Someone mentioned a 0.4 degree down thrust on the engine. The nose bowl on my '74 Traveler has not lined up well with the spinner for as long as I can remember. I was always told, "this was to help counteract torque effects during high power climb". I'm not so sure anymore. Should the nose bowl and the spinner match up and if so, how do I adjust it? Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=373682#373682 ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: May 23, 2012
Subject: Re: Inlet Plugs for Jaguar Cowl on a Tiger
From: Carol Stocker <stockercarolm(at)gmail.com>
Rats.........:) On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 2:00 PM, Gary Vogt wrote: > They won't fit. The Jaguar cowling has an elliptical opening. LoPresti > is round. > > ------------------------------ > *From:* Carol Stocker > *To:* teamgrumman-list(at)matronics.com > *Sent:* Wednesday, May 23, 2012 10:32 AM > *Subject:* Re: TeamGrumman-List: Inlet Plugs for Jaguar Cowl on a Tiger > > I have the LoPresti cowl...how about me??? N28742......I'd like a set... > Carol > > On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 11:57 AM, Dan Schmitz wrote: > > And I threw in my own order.**** > ** ** > Dan Schmitz**** > Tiger 4518B **** > KASH**** > ** ** > *From:* owner-teamgrumman-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto: > owner-teamgrumman-list-server(at)matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *923te > *Sent:* Tuesday, May 22, 2012 10:02 PM > *To:* teamgrumman-list(at)matronics.com > *Subject:* TeamGrumman-List: Inlet Plugs for Jaguar Cowl on a Tiger**** > ** ** > **** > ----- Original Message ----- **** > *From:* Jim_Cancil/Planecover.com **** > *To:* 923TE <923te(at)att.net> **** > *Sent:* Tuesday, May 22, 2012 7:03 AM**** > *Subject:* Re: Inlet Plugs for Jaguar Cowl on a Tiger**** > ** ** > **** > Ahhh ..."Jaguar Cowl". I had not heard the name. I will make a set > and send them with invoice. $65 + $7 shipping. Thanks.**** > **** > Jim**** > **** > **** > **** > **** > **** > On Tue, May 22, 2012, at 03:25 AM, 923TE wrote:**** > > Hi Jim,**** > Brian Sandberg sent me a picture of the plugs you made for his Jaguar > cowled Tiger. I'd like to buy a pair same red color as his with my N923TE > embroidered on one of them. He said they were about $70. I can PayPal, > credit card or mail a check. Just let me know total cost to make them and > send to me at**** > Thanks,**** > Ned**** > **** > > * > > st" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?TeamGrumman-List > tp://forums.matronics.com > _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution > * > > > *http://www.matro=================== > * > > > * > > * > > ________________________________________________________________________________
From: 923te <923te(at)att.net>
Subject: Re: Fresh Air Vent
Date: May 23, 2012
Hmmm I have a brand new set from the factory. Maybe I should cash in...make back w hat I lost in the stock market... Come to think of it I have at least one almost new part of everything on a T iger/ Cheetah. At these prices I'd sure be willing to sell all those parts. A ny takers?;) Ned On May 23, 2012, at 10:46 AM, BILL9725(at)AOL.COM wrote: > In case this becomes a bidding war for these vents, I think they should be at least $150, even more since we all need them. > > So my offer $175 plus shipping, and I know that is a still a good price. > > Bill S > > In a message dated 5/22/2012 6:04:19 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, allenc3@b ellsouth.net writes: t> > > $120 including shipping? > > Sent from my iPhone > > On May 22, 2012, at 8:35 PM, "gketell" wrote: > > > > > I have a "brand new", never used set of the vents Ken Blackman at Airmod s Northwest used to sell. I won them as a door prize at AYA2006. I no long er have a plane so... > > > > Make me an offer. Figure $9 to ship them to continental US. > > > > Greg K > > > > > > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=373609#373609 > > > > > > > > > > Attachments: > > > > http://forums.matronics.com//files/vents_164.jpg > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Use ilities ay - MATRONICS WEB FORUMS - List Con tribution Web Site p; > > > > > ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= > ________________________________________________________________________________
From: 923te <923te(at)att.net>
Subject: Re: Inlet Plugs for Jaguar Cowl on a Tiger
Date: May 23, 2012
Jim Council has them for the LoPresti On May 23, 2012, at 1:04 PM, Carol Stocker wrote: > Rats.........:) > > On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 2:00 PM, Gary Vogt wrote: > They won't fit. The Jaguar cowling has an elliptical opening. LoPresti i s round. > > From: Carol Stocker <stockercarolm(at)gmail.com> > To: teamgrumman-list(at)matronics.com > Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2012 10:32 AM > Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Inlet Plugs for Jaguar Cowl on a Tiger > > I have the LoPresti cowl...how about me??? N28742......I'd like a set... > Carol > > On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 11:57 AM, Dan Schmitz wrot e: > And I threw in my own order. > > Dan Schmitz > Tiger 4518B > KASH > > From: owner-teamgrumman-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-teamgrumma n-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of 923te > Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2012 10:02 PM > To: teamgrumman-list(at)matronics.com > Subject: TeamGrumman-List: Inlet Plugs for Jaguar Cowl on a Tiger > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Jim_Cancil/Planecover.com > To: 923TE > Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2012 7:03 AM > Subject: Re: Inlet Plugs for Jaguar Cowl on a Tiger > > > Ahhh ..."Jaguar Cowl". I had not heard the name. I will make a set and s end them with invoice. $65 + $7 shipping. Thanks. > > Jim > > > > > > On Tue, May 22, 2012, at 03:25 AM, 923TE wrote: > Hi Jim, > Brian Sandberg sent me a picture of the plugs you made for his Jaguar cowl ed Tiger. I'd like to buy a pair same red color as his with my N923TE embroi dered on one of them. He said they were about $70. I can PayPal, credit card or mail a check. Just let me know total cost to make them and send to me at > Thanks, > Ned > > > > st" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?TeamGrumman-List > tp://forums.matronics.com > _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution > > > http://www.matro==================== > > > > > > st" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?TeamGrumman-List > tp://forums.matronics.com > _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution > > > > ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= > ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: May 23, 2012
Subject: Re: Inlet Plugs for Jaguar Cowl on a Tiger
From: Carol Stocker <stockercarolm(at)gmail.com>
Thanks....what web site is that??? On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 2:29 PM, 923te <923te(at)att.net> wrote: > Jim Council has them for the LoPresti > > > On May 23, 2012, at 1:04 PM, Carol Stocker > wrote: > > Rats.........:) > > On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 2:00 PM, Gary Vogt < > teamgrumman(at)yahoo.com> wrote: > >> They won't fit. The Jaguar cowling has an elliptical opening. LoPresti >> is round. >> >> ------------------------------ >> *From:* Carol Stocker < stockercarolm(at)gmail.com> >> *To:* teamgrumman-list(at)matronics.com >> *Sent:* Wednesday, May 23, 2012 10:32 AM >> *Subject:* Re: TeamGrumman-List: Inlet Plugs for Jaguar Cowl on a Tiger >> >> I have the LoPresti cowl...how about me??? N28742......I'd like a set... >> Carol >> >> On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 11:57 AM, Dan Schmitz < >> Dan.Schmitz(at)calix.com> wrote: >> >> And I threw in my own order.**** >> ** ** >> Dan Schmitz**** >> Tiger 4518B **** >> KASH**** >> ** ** >> *From:* >> owner-teamgrumman-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto: >> owner-teamgrumman-list-server(at)matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *923te >> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 22, 2012 10:02 PM >> *To:* teamgrumman-list(at)matronics.com >> *Subject:* TeamGrumman-List: Inlet Plugs for Jaguar Cowl on a Tiger**** >> ** ** >> **** >> ----- Original Message ----- **** >> *From:* Jim_Cancil/Planecover.com **** >> *To:* 923TE <923te(at)att.net> **** >> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 22, 2012 7:03 AM**** >> *Subject:* Re: Inlet Plugs for Jaguar Cowl on a Tiger**** >> ** ** >> **** >> Ahhh ..."Jaguar Cowl". I had not heard the name. I will make a set >> and send them with invoice. $65 + $7 shipping. Thanks.**** >> **** >> Jim**** >> **** >> **** >> **** >> **** >> **** >> On Tue, May 22, 2012, at 03:25 AM, 923TE wrote:**** >> >> Hi Jim,**** >> Brian Sandberg sent me a picture of the plugs you made for his Jaguar >> cowled Tiger. I'd like to buy a pair same red color as his with my N923TE >> embroidered on one of them. He said they were about $70. I can PayPal, >> credit card or mail a check. Just let me know total cost to make them and >> send to me at**** >> Thanks,**** >> Ned**** >> **** >> >> * >> >> st" target="_blank"> <http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?TeamGrumman-List>http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?TeamGrumman-List >> tp:// <http://forums.matronics.com>forums.matronics.com >> _blank"> <http://www.matronics.com/contribution>http://www.matronics.com/contribution >> * >> >> >> * <http://www.matro>http://www.matro=================== >> * >> >> >> >> * >> >> st" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?TeamGrumman-List >> tp://forums.matronics.com >> _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution >> * >> >> > * > > * > > * > > * > > ________________________________________________________________________________
From: Dan Schmitz <Dan.Schmitz(at)calix.com>
Subject: Inlet Plugs for Jaguar Cowl on a Tiger
Date: May 23, 2012
Just this morning, I computed the density altitudes for a test run last Sat urday. It was a perfect calm day for speed testing with light winds coming off the ocean (no mountain waves). But then I forgot most of my past resu lts are on a my airplane's pocket PC back home. I don't think my new numbe rs are much different maybe one or two knots better. I dropped in on Brook s with the hopes of talking to him about making some of the adjustments you noted but he was off with his kids. Do you think if I plug the hole in the one baffle and close the gap in the top center with some rubber, will that make any difference? Dan Schmitz Tiger 4518B KASH From: owner-teamgrumman-list-server(at)matronics.com<mailto:owner-teamgrumman- list-server(at)matronics.com> [mailto:owner-teamgrumman-list-server(at)matronics. com] On Behalf Of Gary Vogt Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2012 1:50 PM Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Inlet Plugs for Jaguar Cowl on a Tiger Any updates on your cowl . . . speed? CHTs? ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Fresh Air Vent
From: "gketell" <greg(at)ketell.com>
Date: May 23, 2012
WOW!!! I wish I had more of these things. I also wish I had set it up as an auction, but I didn't: They went to the first-responder, Allen3C. GK Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=373693#373693 ________________________________________________________________________________
From: Dan Schmitz <Dan.Schmitz(at)calix.com>
Subject: Inlet Plugs for Jaguar Cowl on a Tiger
Date: May 23, 2012
Oh, and you asked about CHTs. Yeah, they're generally in the low 300s. Th e only one I paid attention two last Saturday was #3. I was at 8,500' full power, leaned as much as possible, then pulled into a 10 degree climb, pro bably 80 knots, touched no other controls (still leaned). Around 10,000 fe et, #3 hit 410 degrees, so I eased off to a 5 degree climb and the temp dro pped below 400 when I reached my next test altitude and leveled off. For t hose that may not have caught this before, I'm theoretically breaking in #3 after some rework. In high power level flight, I don't think it's gone ab ove 370. I'm beginning to wonder if it never needed break in, break in is still ongoing, or it's broken in and temps are what they are. The temps ha ven't changed dramatically since the annual. Back then I think they were i n the 380s and now I think 370s. Of course back then it was winter and now it's spring. Is that all the temperature drop I'll see? Dan Schmitz Tiger 4518B KASH From: owner-teamgrumman-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-teamgrumman -list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dan Schmitz Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2012 2:56 PM Subject: RE: TeamGrumman-List: Inlet Plugs for Jaguar Cowl on a Tiger Just this morning, I computed the density altitudes for a test run last Sat urday. It was a perfect calm day for speed testing with light winds coming off the ocean (no mountain waves). But then I forgot most of my past resu lts are on a my airplane's pocket PC back home. I don't think my new numbe rs are much different maybe one or two knots better. I dropped in on Brook s with the hopes of talking to him about making some of the adjustments you noted but he was off with his kids. Do you think if I plug the hole in the one baffle and close the gap in the top center with some rubber, will that make any difference? Dan Schmitz Tiger 4518B KASH From: owner-teamgrumman-list-server(at)matronics.com<mailto:owner-teamgrumman- list-server(at)matronics.com> [mailto:owner-teamgrumman-list-server(at)matronics. com] On Behalf Of Gary Vogt Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2012 1:50 PM Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Inlet Plugs for Jaguar Cowl on a Tiger Any updates on your cowl . . . speed? CHTs? ________________________________________________________________________________
From: Claude Allen <allenc3(at)bellsouth.net>
Subject: Re: Fresh Air Vent
Date: May 23, 2012
Sure glad I bought them before these guys jumped in. Think these guys must h ang out on eBay! Sent from my iPhone On May 23, 2012, at 2:27 PM, 923te <923te(at)att.net> wrote: > Hmmm > I have a brand new set from the factory. Maybe I should cash in...make bac k what I lost in the stock market... > > Come to think of it I have at least one almost new part of everything on a Tiger/ Cheetah. At these prices I'd sure be willing to sell all those parts . Any takers?;) > Ned > > On May 23, 2012, at 10:46 AM, BILL9725(at)AOL.COM wrote: > >> In case this becomes a bidding war for these vents, I think they should b e at least $150, even more since we all need them. >> >> So my offer $175 plus shipping, and I know that is a still a good price. >> >> Bill S >> >> In a message dated 5/22/2012 6:04:19 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, allenc3@ bellsouth.net writes: et> >> >> $120 including shipping? >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On May 22, 2012, at 8:35 PM, "gketell" wrote: >> >> > >> > I have a "brand new", never used set of the vents Ken Blackman at Airmo ds Northwest used to sell. I won them as a door prize at AYA2006. I no lon ger have a plane so... >> > >> > Make me an offer. Figure $9 to ship them to continental US. >> > >> > Greg K >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > Read this topic online here: >> > >> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=373609#373609 >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > Attachments: >> > >> > http://forums.matronics.com//files/vents_164.jpg >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > Use ilities ay - MATRONICS WEB FORUMS - List Co ntribution Web Site p; >> >> >> >> >> >> > > 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > ________________________________________________________________________________
From: Dan Schmitz <Dan.Schmitz(at)calix.com>
Subject: Inlet Plugs for Jaguar Cowl on a Tiger
Date: May 24, 2012
Ok, went through and compared numbers. My plane isn't any faster than last year. Maybe a knot slower actually. That's comparing IAS before and afte r adjusted for density altitude as well as GPS derived airspeed (by flying three directions) come out about the same as well. Below 9000' I kept the prop at 2700 RPM (using external monitor not tach) so engine power isn't a variable. At higher altitudes I used whatever full throttle got me and in both cases RPMs were generally the same at comparable density altitudes. Dan From: owner-teamgrumman-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-teamgrumman -list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dan Schmitz Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2012 2:56 PM Subject: RE: TeamGrumman-List: Inlet Plugs for Jaguar Cowl on a Tiger Just this morning, I computed the density altitudes for a test run last Sat urday. It was a perfect calm day for speed testing with light winds coming off the ocean (no mountain waves). But then I forgot most of my past resu lts are on a my airplane's pocket PC back home. I don't think my new numbe rs are much different maybe one or two knots better. I dropped in on Brook s with the hopes of talking to him about making some of the adjustments you noted but he was off with his kids. Do you think if I plug the hole in the one baffle and close the gap in the top center with some rubber, will that make any difference? Dan Schmitz Tiger 4518B KASH From: owner-teamgrumman-list-server(at)matronics.com<mailto:owner-teamgrumman- list-server(at)matronics.com> [mailto:owner-teamgrumman-list-server(at)matronics. com] On Behalf Of Gary Vogt Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2012 1:50 PM Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Inlet Plugs for Jaguar Cowl on a Tiger Any updates on your cowl . . . speed? CHTs? ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Inlet Plugs for Jaguar Cowl on a Tiger
From: "Brian Hausknecht" <bhauskne(at)gmail.com>
Date: May 24, 2012
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From: "Dean White" <dmwhite(at)e3ra.com>
Subject: Inlet Plugs for Jaguar Cowl on a Tiger
Date: May 23, 2012
NOT! Dean White (Tiger N81166) Edmonds, WA 98026 dmwhite(at)e3ra.com From: owner-teamgrumman-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-teamgrumman-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Brian Hausknecht Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2012 5:41 PM Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Inlet Plugs for Jaguar Cowl on a Tiger So Gary's cowling decreases speed? Brian Hausknecht bhauskne(at)gmail.com www.brianflys.net www.brianflys.com _____ From: Dan Schmitz <Dan.Schmitz(at)calix.com> Sender: owner-teamgrumman-list-server(at)matronics.com Date: Thu, 24 May 2012 00:30:58 +0000 matronics.com%3cteamgrumman-list@matronics.com> ReplyTo: teamgrumman-list(at)matronics.com Subject: RE: TeamGrumman-List: Inlet Plugs for Jaguar Cowl on a Tiger Ok, went through and comp= ared numbers. My plane isn=92t any faster than last year. M= aybe a knot slower actually. That=92s comparing IAS before and af= ter adjusted for density altitude as well as GPS derived airspeed (by flying three dire= ctions) come out about the same as well. Below 9000=92 I kept the= prop at 2700 RPM (using external monitor not tach) so engine power isnR= 17;t a variable. At higher altitudes I used whatever full throttle got me and in both cases RPMs were generally the same at com= parable density altitudes. <= /p> <= /p> Dan <= /p> <= /p> From: owner-te= amgrumman-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-teamgrumman-list-server@m= atronics.com owner-teamgrumman-list-server@m=%20atronics.com> ] On Behalf Of Dan Schmitz Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2012 2:56 PM Subject: RE: TeamGrumman-List: Inlet Plugs for Jaguar Cowl on a Tige= r Just this morning, I comp= uted the density altitudes for a test run last Saturday. It was a per= fect calm day for speed testing with light winds coming off the ocean (no mountain waves). But then I forgot most of my past results= are on a my airplane=92s pocket PC back home. I don=92t thin= k my new numbers are much different maybe one or two knots better. I = dropped in on Brooks with the hopes of talking to him about making some of the adjustments you noted but he was off with his kids. <= /p> Do you think if I plug th= e hole in the one baffle and close the gap in the top center with some rubb= er, will that make any difference? <= /p> Dan Schmitz Tiger 4518B KASH <= /p> <= /p> From: owner-teamgr= umman-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-teamgrumman-list-server(at)matronics.com= ] On Behalf Of Gary Vogt Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2012 1:50 PM Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Inlet Plugs for Jaguar Cowl on a Tige= r Any updates on your= cowl . . . speed? CHTs? =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D eamGrumman-List Email Forum - > :p> /o:p> tor?TeamGrumman-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?TeamGrumman-List =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D bsp; - MATRONICS WEB FORUMS - :p> tp://forums.matronics.com =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D bsp; - List Contribution Web Site - e> bsp; &nbs= p; -Matt Dralle, List Admin.<= /b> bution">http://www.matronics.com/contribution =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =B7~=89=B2, _____ g'=D3=D3 ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: May 23, 2012
From: Gary Vogt <teamgrumman(at)yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Inlet Plugs for Jaguar Cowl on a Tiger
Dan, I think if your plane isn't any faster then something is definitely wr ong.=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0A From: Brian Hausknecht <bh auskne(at)gmail.com>=0ATo: teamgrumman-list(at)matronics.com =0ASent: Wednesday, May 23, 2012 5:41 PM=0ASubject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Inlet Plugs for Jagua r Cowl on a Tiger=0A =0A=0A =0ASo Gary's cowling decreases speed?=0ABrian H ausknecht=0Abhauskne(at)gmail.com=0Awww.brianflys.net=0Awww.brianflys.com=0ASe nt from my Blackberry=0A________________________________=0A=0AFrom: Dan Sc hmitz =0ASender: owner-teamgrumman-list-server@mat ronics.com =0ADate: Thu, 24 May 2012 00:30:58 +0000=0ATo: teamgrumman-list@ matronics.com=0AReplyTo: teamgrumman-list@ matronics.com=0ASubject: RE: TeamGrumman-List: Inlet Plugs for Jaguar Cowl on a Tiger=0A=0AOk, went through and comp==0Aared numbers.=C2- My plane isn=99t any faster than last year.=C2- M==0Aaybe a knot slower a ctually.=C2- That=99s comparing IAS before and af==0Ater adjusted for density altitude as well as GPS derived airspeed (by flying three dire ==0Actions) come out about the same as well.=C2- Below 9000=99 I kept the= prop at 2700 RPM (using external monitor not tach) so engine po wer isnR==0A17;t a variable.=C2- At higher altitudes I used whatever fu ll throttle got me and in both cases RPMs were generally the same at com= =0Aparable density altitudes.=0A=C2-< ==0A/p> =0A=C2-< ==0A/p> =0AD an=0A=C2-< ==0A/p> =0A=C2-< ==0A/p> =0AFrom:owner-te==0Aamgrumman -list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-teamgrumman-list-server@m= atron ics.com] On Behalf Of Dan Schmitz=0ASent: Wednesday, May 23, 2012 2:56 PM =0ATo: teamgrumman-list(at)matronics.com=0ASubject: RE: TeamGrumman-List: Inle t Plugs for Jaguar Cowl on a Tige==0Ar=0A=C2-=0AJust this morning, I co mp==0Auted the density altitudes for a test run last Saturday.=C2- It w as a per==0Afect calm day for speed testing with light winds coming off t he ocean (no mountain waves).=C2- But then I forgot most of my past resul ts= are on a my airplane=99s pocket PC back home.=C2- I don =99t thin==0Ak my new numbers are much different maybe one or two knots b etter.=C2- I ==0Adropped in on Brooks with the hopes of talking to him about making some of the adjustments you noted but he was off with his kids . =0A=C2-< ==0A/p> =0ADo you think if I plug th==0Ae hole in the one baffle and close the gap in the top center with some rubb==0Aer, will tha t make any difference?=0A=C2-< ==0A/p> =0ADan Schmitz =0ATiger 4518B =0AKASH =0A=C2-< ==0A/p> =0A=C2-< ==0A/p> =0AFrom:owner-teamgr= =0Aumman-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-teamgrumman-list-server@ma tronics.com= ] On Behalf Of Gary Vogt=0ASent: Wednesday, May 23, 2012 1:5 0 PM=0ATo: teamgrumman-li==0Ast(at)matronics.com=0ASubject: Re: TeamGrumman- List: Inlet Plugs for Jaguar Cowl on a Tige==0Ar=0A=C2-=0AAny updates o n your= cowl . . =C2-. speed? =C2-CHTs?=0A=C2-=0A=C2 -=0A=C2-=0A=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D =0AeamGrumman-List Email Forum - =0A>=0A:p>=0A/o:p>=0Ator?TeamGr umman-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?TeamGrumman-List> =0A=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =0Absp;=C2-=C2-=C2- - MATRONICS WEB FORUMS - =0A:p>=0Atp://forums.mat ronics.com =0A=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D =0Absp;=C2- - List Contribution Web Site - =0Ae>=0Absp;=C2- =C2-=C2- =C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-&nbs==0Ap; =C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2--Matt Dralle, List Admin.< ==0A/b>=0A bution">http://www.matronics.com/contribution =0A=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D =0A=C2=C2=B7=BA~=B0=C3=AD=C2=B2,=C3=9Eg( =93=C5-=C3=93M4=C3=93G=C3=9Aq=C3=BC=C2=A2=C3=C3=A2z=C2=B9=C3=9E=C3 =81=C3=8A.=C2=AE'=C2=AB8^M=C3=C2=C2=BB=C2=84=A2=C2=A9=C3=8B=C5 -=C3=8BD=84=A2=C2=A8=C2=A5=C5-=C3=AE=EF=BD,z=C3=98^1=C2=ABk=C2=A2 x=C5=93=C2=B0=C2=B8=C2=AC=C2=B4W=C5=A1=C2=B6=C3=C3=9E=C2=B0=C3'=C2=AF =C5-=C2=AD=C2=A2=C2=BBhn=C2=BA0=C2=B1=C3=AD=C3=A9=C5=A1=C5=B8" =C3=A2=C2=B2=C3=9B=C2=AD=C5-X=C2=AD=B0=C3=AB,=C2=B9=C3=88Z=C2=B0=C2 =B8=C2=AC=C2=B5I=C3J=C3=C3=ACr=C2=B8=C2=A9=C2=B6*' ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: May 23, 2012
From: Gary Vogt <teamgrumman(at)yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Inlet Plugs for Jaguar Cowl on a Tiger
Dan, I really can't tell from here what is with your plane. =C2-I've inst alled 7 Jaguar Cowlings and not one was slower. =C2-Do you know how to co mpute True Airspeed? =C2-Indicated airspeed is meaningless.=0A=0A=0A_____ ___________________________=0A From: Dan Schmitz <Dan.Schmitz(at)calix.com>=0A nt: Wednesday, May 23, 2012 11:55 AM=0ASubject: RE: TeamGrumman-List: Inlet Plugs for Jaguar Cowl on a Tiger=0A =0A=0A =0AJust this morning, I compute d the density altitudes for a test run last Saturday.=C2- It was a perfec t calm day for speed testing with light winds coming off the ocean (no moun tain waves).=C2- But then I forgot most of my past results are on a my ai rplane=99s pocket PC back home.=C2- I don=99t think my new nu mbers are much different maybe one or two knots better.=C2- I dropped in on Brooks with the hopes of talking to him about making some of the adjustm ents you noted but he was off with his kids.=0A=C2-=0ADo you think if I p lug the hole in the one baffle and close the gap in the top center with som e rubber, will that make any difference?=0A=C2-=0ADan Schmitz=0ATiger 451 8B=0AKASH=0A=C2-=0A=C2-=0AFrom:owner-teamgrumman-list-server@matronics. com [mailto:owner-teamgrumman-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gary Vogt=0ASent: Wednesday, May 23, 2012 1:50 PM=0ATo: teamgrumman-list@matroni cs.com=0ASubject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Inlet Plugs for Jaguar Cowl on a Ti ger=0A=C2-=0AAny updates on your cowl . . =C2-. speed? =C2-CHTs?=0A ===================== ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: May 23, 2012
From: Gary Vogt <teamgrumman(at)yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Cowling
Send some pics.=0A=0AFirst, if you just want to line up with the cowling, s tep back and take a look at the relationship between the spinner and the co wling. -If the upper right (left as you're facing it) is high, add a shim to the upper right engine mount bushing. -The shim will go between the s hock absorber and the engine. -Conversely, you can remove a shim on the l ower left. -=0A=0AI optimise the spinner to cowling fit by setting the pr op about 1/8 inch low with respect to the top-middle if the spinner/cowling . -The engine moves up in flight.=0ASide-to-side, I center on the cowling .=0A=0AGary=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0A From: mbcrisp <mbcr isp87(at)gmail.com>=0ATo: teamgrumman-list(at)matronics.com =0ASent: Wednesday, M ay 23, 2012 11:04 AM=0ASubject: TeamGrumman-List: Re: Cowling=0A =0A--> Tea mGrumman-List message posted by: "mbcrisp" =0A=0ASomeo ne mentioned a 0.4 degree down thrust on the engine. The nose bowl on my '7 4 Traveler has not lined up well with the spinner for as long as I can reme mber. I was always told, "this was to help counteract torque effects during high power climb". I'm not so sure anymore. Should the nose bowl and the s pinner match up and if so, how do I adjust it?=0A=0A=0A=0A=0ARead this topi c online here:=0A=0Ahttp://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=373682#37 = ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: May 23, 2012
From: Gary Vogt <teamgrumman(at)yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Inlet Plugs for Jaguar Cowl on a Tiger
Dean, what is your experience with the cowling?=0A=0A=0A___________________ _____________=0A From: Dean White <dmwhite(at)e3ra.com>=0ATo: teamgrumman-list @matronics.com =0ASent: Wednesday, May 23, 2012 7:12 PM=0ASubject: RE: Team Grumman-List: Inlet Plugs for Jaguar Cowl on a Tiger=0A =0A=0ANOT!=0A=C2- =0ADean White (Tiger N81166)=0AEdmonds, WA 98026=0Admwhite(at)e3ra.com=0A=C2 -=0AFrom:owner-teamgrumman-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-teamgr umman-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Brian Hausknecht=0ASent: Wedn esday, May 23, 2012 5:41 PM=0ATo: teamgrumman-list(at)matronics.com=0ASubject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Inlet Plugs for Jaguar Cowl on a Tiger=0A=C2-=0ASo Gary's cowling decreases speed?=0ABrian Hausknecht=0Abhauskne(at)gmail.com=0A __________________________=0A=0AFrom: Dan Schmitz <Dan.Schmitz(at)calix.com> =0ASender: owner-teamgrumman-list-server(at)matronics.com =0ADate: Thu, 24 May matronics.com>=0AReplyTo: teamgrumman-list(at)matronics.com=0ASubject: RE: Tea mGrumman-List: Inlet Plugs for Jaguar Cowl on a Tiger=0A=C2-=0AOk, went t hrough and comp= ared numbers.=C2- My plane isn=99t any faster th an last year.=C2- M= aybe a knot slower actually.=C2- That=99s comparing IAS before and af= ter adjusted for density altitude as well as GPS derived airspeed (by flying three dire= ctions) come out about the s ame as well.=C2- Below 9000=99 I kept the= prop at 2700 RPM (usin g external monitor not tach) so engine power isnR= 17;t a variable.=C2- At higher altitudes I used whatever full throttle got me and in both cases RPMs were generally the same at com= parable density altitudes.=0A=C2- <= /p> =0A=C2- <= /p> =0ADan=0A=C2- <= /p> =0A=C2- <= /p> =0AFrom: owner-te= amgrumman-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-team grumman-list-server@m= atronics.com] On Behalf Of Dan Schmitz=0ASent: Wed nesday, May 23, 2012 2:56 PM=0ATo: teamgrumman-list(at)matronics.com=0ASubject : RE: TeamGrumman-List: Inlet Plugs for Jaguar Cowl on a Tige= r=0A=C2- =0AJust this morning, I comp= uted the density altitudes for a test run l ast Saturday.=C2- It was a per= fect calm day for speed testing with li ght winds coming off the ocean (no mountain waves).=C2- But then I forgot most of my past results= are on a my airplane=99s pocket PC back h ome.=C2- I don=99t thin= k my new numbers are much different mayb e one or two knots better.=C2- I = dropped in on Brooks with the hopes of talking to him about making some of the adjustments you noted but he was off with his kids.=0A=C2- <= /p> =0ADo you think if I plug th= e hol e in the one baffle and close the gap in the top center with some rubb= e r, will that make any difference?=0A=C2- <= /p> =0ADan Schmitz=0ATiger 4518B=0AKASH=0A=C2- <= /p> =0A=C2- <= /p> =0AFrom: owner-teamgr= umman-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-teamgrumman-list-server@matro nics.com= ] On Behalf Of Gary Vogt=0ASent: Wednesday, May 23, 2012 1:50 P M=0ATo: teamgrumman-li= st(at)matronics.com=0ASubject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Inlet Plugs for Jaguar Cowl on a Tige= r=0A=C2-=0AAny updates on your = cowl . . =C2-. speed? =C2-CHTs?=0A=C2-=0A=C2-=0A=C2-=0A=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=0AeamGrum man-List Email Forum -=0A> =C2-=0A:p>=0A/o:p>=0Ator?TeamGrumman-List">htt p://www.matronics.com/Navigator?TeamGrumman-List=0A=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=0Absp;=C2-=C2-=C2- - M ATRONICS WEB FORUMS -=0A:p>=0Atp://forums.matronics.com=0A=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=0Absp;=C2- - List Contribution Web Site -=0Ae> bsp;=C2-=C2-=C2- =C2-=C2-=C2-=C2 -=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-&nbs= p;=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2--M att Dralle, List Admin. <= /b>=0Abution">http://www.matronics.com/contrib ution=0A=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=0A=C2-=0A=C2-=0A=C2-=0Ahttp://www.matronics.com/Navigator?TeamG rumman-List=0Ahttp://forums.matronics.com=0Ahttp://www.matronics.com/contri bution=0A=C2-=0A=C2=C2=B7~=B0=C2=B2,=0A_________________________ ==== ________________________________________________________________________________
From: Dan Schmitz <Dan.Schmitz(at)calix.com>
Subject: Inlet Plugs for Jaguar Cowl on a Tiger
Date: May 24, 2012
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Subject: Re: Inlet Plugs for Jaguar Cowl on a Tiger
From: 923TE <923te(at)att.net>
Date: May 24, 2012
Dan, I would think that flight testing and comparing at lower altitudes, near sea level if possible, would maximize any effects due to drag reduction. Also, i t is very difficult to get repeatable results. If you are not setting the en gine the same you probably won't get repeatable results. Breaking in a cylin der definitely has a negative effect. But if your oil consumption has droppe d since the new install it's probably already broke in. Lycoming says keep d oing break in procedure for 50 hrs. I always set for best power by the Lycoming book method and then check it b y adjusting the mixture with the prop set in manual mode to ensure maximum r pm. I fly at equivalent density altitude calculated on the fly by the Garmin 430 and also do the compass ordinates and formulas for wind correction. I t ry and fly at the same OAT. Seems to make a difference even though I am flyi ng at equivalent DAs. I always have the same amount of fuel on board, have a freshly cleaned and waxed plane and prop and ensure the same CG. The flaps h ave to be in exactly the same position, whatever that was last time. A diffe rence of even 1 deg up or down will effect your speed. This is hard to get c onsistent. If a trim tab was touched between tests it will also affect your r esults. I always repeat the test 3 or 4 times until the numbers repeat. If t hey don't repeat then something is changing and I quit and try another day. I t's really tedious to get good numbers but it's another excuse to go fly;) Fo od for thought, the air speed needle is about 2 kts wide, so it's really har d to detect a 1-2 knot speed increase. Thats one reason why I record indicat ed airspeed, true air speed and ground speed from the gps on every flight te st. The last 2 are digital from the Garmin. Another uncanny result I continu e to experience is that flying directly with the wind almost always gets me 2 more knots than flying directly into the wind. I think David Fletcher told m e this was his experience also. That's not supposed to be that way. Weird hu h? Something to think about is that if you are getting about the same speed as b efore Jaguar but have lower CHTs then you are in effect going faster. That e nergy is just being lost by the increased cooling drag. Maybe an area worth e xperimenting with;) My after Jag experience is that the speed is about the same but the cooling i s better by about 45 deg F. My plane was already fast so the typical speed i ncrease from the Jag wouldn't be as likely for it. If I can get my CHTs back to 380s from the now 330s by cooling drag reduction, I think I might see th at 5-7 kts increase I had hoped for. BTW, what brand gauges are you using for the temperatures? Regards, Ned On May 24, 2012, at 7:04 AM, Dan Schmitz wrote: > If IAS is meaningless, then computing TAS off of IAS is a pointless exerci se. I was comparing IAS of density altitude to IAS of the same density alti tude. The TAS calculations will work out to be the same in either case. No te that I completely ignored the IAS in a number of test runs where I simply used GPS ground speed in 3 directions to compute a TAS using some fun formu las. The numbers all come out to =9Cno real change=9D. > > Now, by the argument that a prop turning X RPM at Y density altitude will s ee no speed change even as there are drag reductionsum counter-intu itive, but my high altitude tests up to 13,300=99 with new cowl so far show no changes either. Of course, the problem with my high density altitu de tests then are they are at =9Cfull=9D engine power, I lean fo r highest RPM in a speed test at higher altitudes. I don=99t imagine m y engine is doing its best with a cylinder being broken in (maybe) and runni ng on mineral oil. So there=99s power I=99m not getting yet. D o most Grummans see a 5 knot speedup after breaking in and switching to norm al oil? > > Dan Schmitz > Tiger 4518B > KASH > > From: owner-teamgrumman-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-teamgrumma n-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gary Vogt > Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2012 12:37 AM > To: teamgrumman-list(at)matronics.com > Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Inlet Plugs for Jaguar Cowl on a Tiger > > Dan, I really can't tell from here what is with your plane. I've installe d 7 Jaguar Cowlings and not one was slower. Do you know how to compute True Airspeed? Indicated airspeed is meaningless. > > From: Dan Schmitz <Dan.Schmitz(at)calix.com> > To: "teamgrumman-list(at)matronics.com" > Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2012 11:55 AM > Subject: RE: TeamGrumman-List: Inlet Plugs for Jaguar Cowl on a Tiger > > Just this morning, I computed the density altitudes for a test run last Sa turday. It was a perfect calm day for speed testing with light winds coming off the ocean (no mountain waves). But then I forgot most of my past resul ts are on a my airplane=99s pocket PC back home. I don=99t thin k my new numbers are much different maybe one or two knots better. I droppe d in on Brooks with the hopes of talking to him about making some of the adj ustments you noted but he was off with his kids. > > Do you think if I plug the hole in the one baffle and close the gap in the top center with some rubber, will that make any difference? > > Dan Schmitz > Tiger 4518B > KASH > > > From: owner-teamgrumman-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-teamgrumma n-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gary Vogt > Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2012 1:50 PM > To: teamgrumman-list(at)matronics.com > Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Inlet Plugs for Jaguar Cowl on a Tiger > > Any updates on your cowl . . . speed? 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Subject: Re: Plugs leading up worse than normal
From: "bkspero" <bkspero(at)gmail.com>
Date: May 24, 2012
Doug Doty wrote: > ..... I have noticed that it also needs leaned aggressively on the ground to run clean and it's best and during ground operation mag checks... > I am just beginning to play with leaning on the ground. I had been simply leaning about an inch with no attention to the effect on idle speed. I now find that if I lean to peak idle, it takes about 1.5 inches and gains about 300 rpm over idle at full rich. But during the ground runup mag check I go back to full rich. Is that wrong? Should I be leaning for that as well? I ask because the left mag always runs a little rougher than the right during the mag check. The RPM drop for the left mag is fine (about 80-100 rpm), and equal to the drop for the right mag. But the left mag is noticeably rougher. If I should be leaning for the mag check, what technique should I use (eg. run it up rich and lean until rough then enrichen slightly?)? Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=373771#373771 ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: May 24, 2012
From: Gary Vogt <teamgrumman(at)yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Inlet Plugs for Jaguar Cowl on a Tiger
Well, Dan,=0A=0AOn N3752W, the only change to the plane was the cowling. =C2-Right out of the hangar it was 5 knots (TAS) faster than the stock co wling at altitudes between 1500 feet and 5500 feet and 2700 rpm. =C2-It w as also easier to run past 2700 rpm at 8000 feet. =C2-So, I don't know wh at to tell you. =C2-=0A=0AWhen I installed the very first one on N119ST, it was 9 knots (TAS) faster. =C2-On my plane with a 65-63-61 prop, it was 10 knots (TAS) faster. =C2-Both at 2700 rpm. =C2-My old cowling, howev er, didn't fit well, was debonding and patched all over. =C2-=0A=0AI wish you were closer. =C2-=0A=0AGary=0A=0A=0A________________________________ =0A From: Dan Schmitz <Dan.Schmitz(at)calix.com>=0ATo: "teamgrumman-list@matro nics.com" =0ASent: Thursday, May 24, 2012 5:04 AM=0ASubject: RE: TeamGrumman-List: Inlet Plugs for Jaguar Cowl on a T iger=0A =0A=0A =0AIf IAS is meaningless, then computing TAS off of IAS is a pointless exercise.=C2- I was comparing IAS of density altitude to IAS o f the same density altitude.=C2- The TAS calculations will work out to be the same in either case.=C2- Note that I completely ignored the IAS in a number of test runs where I simply used GPS ground speed in 3 directions t o compute a TAS using some fun formulas.=C2- The numbers all come out to =C3=A2=82=AC=C5=93no real change=C3=A2=82=AC=EF=BD.=0A=C2-=0ANow , by the argument that a prop turning X RPM at Y density altitude will see no speed change even as there are drag reductions=C3=A2=82=AC=C2um co unter-intuitive, but my high altitude tests up to 13,300=C3=A2=82=AC =84=A2 with new cowl so far show no changes either.=C2- Of course, the pr oblem with my high density altitude tests then are they are at =C3=A2=82 =AC=C5=93full=C3=A2=82=AC=EF=BD engine power, I lean for highest RPM in a speed test at higher altitudes.=C2- I don=C3=A2=82=AC=84=A2t i magine my engine is doing its best with a cylinder being broken in (maybe) and running on mineral oil.=C2- So there=C3=A2=82=AC=84=A2s power I =C3=A2=82=AC=84=A2m not getting yet.=C2- Do most Grummans see a 5 k not speedup after breaking in and switching to normal oil?=C2- =0A=C2- =0ADan Schmitz=0ATiger 4518B=0AKASH=0A=C2-=0AFrom:owner-teamgrumman-list- server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-teamgrumman-list-server(at)matronics.com] O n Behalf Of Gary Vogt=0ASent: Thursday, May 24, 2012 12:37 AM=0ATo: teamgru mman-list(at)matronics.com=0ASubject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Inlet Plugs for Ja guar Cowl on a Tiger=0A=C2-=0ADan, I really can't tell from here what is with your plane. =C2-I've installed 7 Jaguar Cowlings and not one was slo wer. =C2-Do you know how to compute True Airspeed? =C2-Indicated airspe ed is meaningless.=0A=C2-=0A=0A________________________________=0A =0AFro m:Dan Schmitz =0ATo: "teamgrumman-list(at)matronics.com " =0ASent: Wednesday, May 23, 2012 11:55 A M=0ASubject: RE: TeamGrumman-List: Inlet Plugs for Jaguar Cowl on a Tiger =0A=C2-=0AJust this morning, I computed the density altitudes for a test run last Saturday.=C2- It was a perfect calm day for speed testing with l ight winds coming off the ocean (no mountain waves).=C2- But then I forgo t most of my past results are on a my airplane=C3=A2=82=AC=84=A2s poc ket PC back home.=C2- I don=C3=A2=82=AC=84=A2t think my new numbers are much different maybe one or two knots better.=C2- I dropped in on Br ooks with the hopes of talking to him about making some of the adjustments you noted but he was off with his kids.=0A=C2-=0ADo you think if I plug t he hole in the one baffle and close the gap in the top center with some rub ber, will that make any difference?=0A=C2-=0ADan Schmitz=0ATiger 4518B=0A KASH=0A=C2-=0A=C2-=0AFrom:owner-teamgrumman-list-server(at)matronics.com [ mailto:owner-teamgrumman-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gary Vogt =0ASent: Wednesday, May 23, 2012 1:50 PM=0ATo: teamgrumman-list(at)matronics.c om=0ASubject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Inlet Plugs for Jaguar Cowl on a Tiger =0A=C2-=0AAny updates on your cowl . . =C2-. speed? =C2-CHTs?=0A=C2 -=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2- - The TeamGrumman-List Email -=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2- =C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2- - List Contribution Web Si =C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2 -=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2- =====================0A=C2-=0A=C2 =C2=B7=BA~=B0=C3=AD=C2=B2,=C3=9Eg(=93=C5-=C3=93M4=C3 =93G=C3=9Aq=C3=BC=C2=A2=C3=C3=A2z=C2=B9=C3=9E=C3=81=C3=8A.=C2=AE'=C2=AB8 ^M=C3=C2=C2=BB=C2=84=A2=C2=A9=C3=8B=C5-=C3=8BD=84=A2=C2=A8 =C2=A5=C5-=C3=AE=EF=BD,z=C3=98^1=C2=ABk=C2=A2x=C5=93=C2=B0=C2=B8=C2=AC =C2=B4W=C5=A1=C2=B6=C3=C3=9E=C2=B0=C3'=C2=AF=C5-=C2=AD=C2=A2=C2=BBhn =C2=BA0=C2=B1=C3=AD=C3=A9=C5=A1=C5=B8"=C3=A2=C2=B2=C3=9B=C2=AD=C5 -X=C2=AD=B0=C3=AB,=C2=B9=C3=88Z=C2=B0=C2=B8=C2=AC=C2=B5I=C3J=C3 =C3=ACr=C2=B8=C2=A9=C2=B6*' ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: May 24, 2012
From: Gary Vogt <teamgrumman(at)yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Plugs leading up worse than normal
I think the old rule was to do the run up at full rich. -I've gone to lea ning to near peak RPM at 1800 then doing the mag checks. -If you forget t o go full rich on takeoff, it will remind you when the engine stumbles.=0A =0AWhat plug are you running?=0A=0AWhat gap?=0A=0A=0A______________________ __________=0A From: bkspero <bkspero(at)gmail.com>=0ATo: teamgrumman-list@matr onics.com =0ASent: Thursday, May 24, 2012 8:25 AM=0ASubject: TeamGrumman-Li st: Re: Plugs leading up worse than normal=0A =0A--> TeamGrumman-List messa ge posted by: "bkspero" =0A=0A=0ADoug Doty wrote:=0A> .. ... I have noticed that it also needs leaned aggressively on the ground to run clean and it's best and during ground operation mag checks...=0A> =0A =0A=0AI am just beginning to play with leaning on the ground.- I had been simply leaning about an inch with no attention to the effect on idle speed .- I now find that if I lean to peak idle, it takes about 1.5 inches and gains about 300 rpm over idle at full rich.=0A=0ABut during the ground runu p mag check I go back to full rich.- Is that wrong?- Should I be leanin g for that as well?- I ask because the left mag always runs a little roug her than the right during the mag check.- The RPM drop for the left mag i s fine (about 80-100 rpm), and equal to the drop for the right mag.- But the left mag is noticeably rougher.=0A=0AIf I should be leaning for the mag check, what technique should I use (eg. run it up rich and lean until roug h then enrichen slightly?)?=0A=0A=0A=0A=0ARead this topic online here:=0A =0Ahttp://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=373771#373771=0A=0A=0A=0A ==================== ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: May 24, 2012
From: Gary Vogt <teamgrumman(at)yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Inlet Plugs for Jaguar Cowl on a Tiger
Ned, did you get the cowling modified?=0A=0A=0A____________________________ ____=0A From: 923TE <923te(at)att.net>=0ATo: "teamgrumman-list(at)matronics.com" =0ASent: Thursday, May 24, 2012 7:00 AM=0A Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Inlet Plugs for Jaguar Cowl on a Tiger=0A =0A=0ADan,=0AI would think that flight testing and comparing at lower altit udes, near sea level if possible, would maximize any effects due to drag re duction. Also, it is very difficult to get repeatable results. If you are n ot setting the engine the same you probably won't get repeatable results. B reaking in a cylinder definitely has a negative effect. But if your oil con sumption has dropped since the new install it's probably already broke in. Lycoming says keep doing break in procedure for 50 hrs.=0A=0A=C2-I always set for best power by the Lycoming book method and then check it by adjust ing the mixture with the prop set in manual mode to ensure maximum rpm. I f ly at equivalent density altitude calculated on the fly by the Garmin 430 a nd also do the compass ordinates and formulas for wind correction. I try an d fly at the same OAT. Seems to make a difference even though I am flying a t equivalent DAs. I always have the same amount of fuel on board, have a fr eshly cleaned and waxed plane and prop and ensure the same CG. The flaps ha ve to be in exactly the same position, whatever that was last time. A diffe rence of even 1 deg up or down will effect your speed. This is hard to get consistent. If a trim tab was touched between tests it will also affect you r results. I always repeat the test 3 or 4 times until the numbers repeat. If they don't repeat then something is changing and I quit and try another day. It's really tedious to get good numbers but it's another excuse to go fly;) Food for thought, the air speed needle is about 2 kts wide, so it's really hard to detect a 1-2 knot speed increase. Thats one reason why I record indicated airspeed, true air speed and ground spee d from the gps on every flight test. The last 2 are digital from the Garmin .=C2-Another uncanny result I continue to experience is that flying direc tly with the wind almost always gets me 2 more knots than flying directly i nto the wind. I think David Fletcher told me this was his experience also. That's not supposed to be that way. Weird huh?=0A=0ASomething to think abou t is that if you are getting about the same speed as before Jaguar but have lower CHTs then you are in effect going faster. That energy is just being lost by the increased cooling drag. Maybe an area worth experimenting with; )=0A=0AMy after Jag experience is that the speed is about the same but the cooling is better by about 45 deg F. My plane was already fast so the typic al speed increase from the Jag wouldn't be as likely for it. If I can get m y CHTs back to 380s from the now 330s by cooling drag reduction, I think I might see that 5-7 kts increase I had hoped for.=0ABTW, what brand gauges a re you using for the temperatures?=0ARegards,=0ANed=0A=0A=0AOn May 24, 2012 , at 7:04 AM, Dan Schmitz wrote:=0A=0A=0A =0A>If IA S is meaningless, then computing TAS off of IAS is a pointless exercise.=C2 - I was comparing IAS of density altitude to IAS of the same density alti tude.=C2- The TAS calculations will work out to be the same in either cas e.=C2- Note that I completely ignored the IAS in a number of test runs wh ere I simply used GPS ground speed in 3 directions to compute a TAS using s ome fun formulas.=C2- The numbers all come out to =9Cno real change =9D.=0A>=C2-=0A>Now, by the argument that a prop turning X RPM at Y density altitude will see no speed change even as there are drag reduction sum counter-intuitive, but my high altitude tests up to 13,300 =99 with new cowl so far show no changes either.=C2- Of course, the pr oblem with my high density altitude tests then are they are at =9Cful l=9D engine power, I lean for highest RPM in a speed test at higher a ltitudes.=C2- I don=99t imagine my engine is doing its best with a cylinder being broken in (maybe) and running on mineral oil.=C2- So there =99s power I=99m not getting yet.=C2- Do most Grummans see a 5 knot speedup after breaking in and switching to normal oil?=C2- =0A>=C2 -=0A>Dan Schmitz=0A>Tiger 4518B=0A>KASH=0A>=C2-=0A>From:owner-teamgrumm an-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-teamgrumman-list-server@matronic s.com] On Behalf Of Gary Vogt=0A>Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2012 12:37 AM=0A>T o: teamgrumman-list(at)matronics.com=0A>Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Inlet P lugs for Jaguar Cowl on a Tiger=0A>=C2-=0A>Dan, I really can't tell from here what is with your plane. =C2-I've installed 7 Jaguar Cowlings and no t one was slower. =C2-Do you know how to compute True Airspeed? =C2-Ind icated airspeed is meaningless.=0A>=C2-=0A>=0A>__________________________ ______=0A> =0A>From:Dan Schmitz =0A>To: "teamgrumman -list(at)matronics.com" =0A>Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2012 11:55 AM=0A>Subject: RE: TeamGrumman-List: Inlet Plugs for Jag uar Cowl on a Tiger=0A>=C2-=0A>Just this morning, I computed the density altitudes for a test run last Saturday.=C2- It was a perfect calm day for speed testing with light winds coming off the ocean (no mountain waves). =C2- But then I forgot most of my past results are on a my airplane =99s pocket PC back home.=C2- I don=99t think my new numbers are mu ch different maybe one or two knots better.=C2- I dropped in on Brooks wi th the hopes of talking to him about making some of the adjustments you not ed but he was off with his kids.=0A>=C2-=0A>Do you think if I plug the ho le in the one baffle and close the gap in the top center with some rubber, will that make any difference?=0A>=C2-=0A>Dan Schmitz=0A>Tiger 4518B=0A>K ASH=0A>=C2-=0A>=C2-=0A>From:owner-teamgrumman-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-teamgrumman-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gary Vog t=0A>Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2012 1:50 PM=0A>To: teamgrumman-list@matronic s.com=0A>Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Inlet Plugs for Jaguar Cowl on a Ti ger=0A>=C2-=0A>Any updates on your cowl . . =C2-. speed? 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From: Dan Schmitz <Dan.Schmitz(at)calix.com>
Subject: Inlet Plugs for Jaguar Cowl on a Tiger
Date: May 24, 2012
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Date: May 24, 2012
From: flyv35b <flyv35b(at)minetfiber.com>
Subject: Re: Plugs leading up worse than normal
On 5/24/2012 8:25 AM, bkspero wrote: > But during the ground runup mag check I go back to full rich. Is that wrong? Should I be leaning for that as well? I ask because the left mag always runs a little rougher than the right during the mag check. The RPM drop for the left mag is fine (about 80-100 rpm), and equal to the drop for the right mag. But the left mag is noticeably rougher. > > If I should be leaning for the mag check, what technique should I use (eg. run it up rich and lean until rough then enrichen slightly?)? First off you can't check the idle mixture unless the engine is fully warmed up (after flying). Then you should get about a 25 rpm rise from full rich when you lean slowly at 800-1000 rpm, say. I always check carb heat at full rich mixture and see about 100 rpm drop at 1700rpm. I then lean to max rpm and it rises about 50 rpm or thereabouts. I let it run there for 10 seconds and then do the mag check with it leaned. I leave it leaned until ready to takeoff and then shove the mixture in. You won't forget as the engine will stumble upon throttle application if you forget. I always taxi with it leaned as far as the engine with still run smoothly. I always lean in the air, even at low altitude, when the power is reduced for cruise. Plugs run pretty clean for 100 hrs. Cliff ________________________________________________________________________________
From: Dan Schmitz <Dan.Schmitz(at)calix.com>
Subject: Inlet Plugs for Jaguar Cowl on a Tiger
Date: May 24, 2012
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Subject: Re: Plugs leading up worse than normal
From: "bkspero" <bkspero(at)gmail.com>
Date: May 24, 2012
teamgrumman(at)yahoo.com wrote: > I think the old rule was to do the run up at full rich. I've gone to leaning to near peak RPM at 1800 then doing the mag checks. If you forget to go full rich on takeoff, it will remind you when the engine stumbles. > > > What plug are you running? > > > What gap? > > > [b] Hi Gary. This is about 74429. Alan had the plugs replaced last September at about 390 hrs on the engine. He had type REM-38E installed. There is no entry for the gap in the logbook. It was at about 406 hrs when I bought it, and it is at about 450 hrs now. I will try the lean runup and see if it helps. Barry Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=373803#373803 ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Plugs leading up worse than normal
From: "bkspero" <bkspero(at)gmail.com>
Date: May 24, 2012
flyv35b(at)minetfiber.com wrote: > > > First off you can't check the idle mixture unless the engine is fully > warmed up (after flying). Then you should get about a 25 rpm rise from > full rich when you lean slowly at 800-1000 rpm, say. > > I always check carb heat at full rich mixture and see about 100 rpm drop > at 1700rpm. I then lean to max rpm and it rises about 50 rpm or > thereabouts. I let it run there for 10 seconds and then do the mag > check with it leaned. I leave it leaned until ready to takeoff and then > shove the mixture in. You won't forget as the engine will stumble upon > throttle application if you forget. I always taxi with it leaned as far > as the engine with still run smoothly. I always lean in the air, even > at low altitude, when the power is reduced for cruise. Plugs run pretty > clean for 100 hrs. > > Cliff Thanks for the input, Cliff. I now taxi lean to peak rpm. And do lean in the air even at low altitude as long as the power is low. Plane gives the 200+ idle rpm increase whether the engine is cold or its been flying for hours. Makes sense to do the carb heat check while rich. Will try the lean mag runup. Hoping that's the key. Thanks again. Barry Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=373807#373807 ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: May 24, 2012
From: flyv35b <flyv35b(at)minetfiber.com>
Subject: Re: Plugs leading up worse than normal
On 5/24/2012 2:19 PM, bkspero wrote: > --> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: "bkspero" > > > flyv35b(at)minetfiber.com wrote: >> >> >> First off you can't check the idle mixture unless the engine is fully >> warmed up (after flying). Then you should get about a 25 rpm rise from >> full rich when you lean slowly at 800-1000 rpm, say. >> >> I always check carb heat at full rich mixture and see about 100 rpm drop >> at 1700rpm. I then lean to max rpm and it rises about 50 rpm or >> thereabouts. I let it run there for 10 seconds and then do the mag >> check with it leaned. I leave it leaned until ready to takeoff and then >> shove the mixture in. You won't forget as the engine will stumble upon >> throttle application if you forget. I always taxi with it leaned as far >> as the engine with still run smoothly. I always lean in the air, even >> at low altitude, when the power is reduced for cruise. Plugs run pretty >> clean for 100 hrs. >> >> Cliff > > > Thanks for the input, Cliff. I now taxi lean to peak rpm. And do lean in the air even at low altitude as long as the power is low. > > Plane gives the 200+ idle rpm increase whether the engine is cold or its been flying for hours. > > Makes sense to do the carb heat check while rich. Will try the lean mag runup. Hoping that's the key. > > Thanks again. > > Barry > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=373807#373807 > > Well, your idle mixture adjustment is way to rich if you are getting 200+ rpm rise when you lean, if your checking it with a warm engine. You might see that much with a cold engine right after start up. Turn your idle mixture screw in 1/2 turn and recheck it. Cliff ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Dean White" <dmwhite(at)e3ra.com>
Subject: Inlet Plugs for Jaguar Cowl on a Tiger
Date: May 24, 2012
I will have some better data after this weekend due to another high altitude trip. Right now, I would say that I am betting about 5 to 7 knots (versus Lopresti nose bowl) in cruise at 10k. I think it is a little less down low but try not to firewall it down there so am not too sure. What I really enjoy are the lower and more even CHTs =93 I=99m easily 30 degrees cooler. I think my previous baffles left something to be desired so part of that is the new baffles but certainly not all. Dean White (Tiger N81166) Edmonds, WA 98026 dmwhite(at)e3ra.com From: owner-teamgrumman-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-teamgrumman-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gary Vogt Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2012 9:44 PM Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Inlet Plugs for Jaguar Cowl on a Tiger Dean, what is your experience with the cowling? _____ From: Dean White <dmwhite(at)e3ra.com> Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2012 7:12 PM Subject: RE: TeamGrumman-List: Inlet Plugs for Jaguar Cowl on a Tiger NOT! Dean White (Tiger N81166) Edmonds, WA 98026 dmwhite(at)e3ra.com From: owner-teamgrumman-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-teamgrumman-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Brian Hausknecht Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2012 5:41 PM Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Inlet Plugs for Jaguar Cowl on a Tiger So Gary's cowling decreases speed? Brian Hausknecht bhauskne(at)gmail.com www.brianflys.net www.brianflys.com <http://www.brianflys.com> _____ From: <http://www.brianflys.com> Dan Schmitz <Dan.Schmitz@calix.com> Sender: owner-teamgrumman-list-server(at)matronics.com Date: Thu, 24 May 2012 00:30:58 +0000 matronics.com%3cteamgrumman-list@matronics.com> ReplyTo: teamgrumman-list(at)matronics.com Subject: RE: TeamGrumman-List: Inlet Plugs for Jaguar Cowl on a Tiger Ok, went through and comp= ared numbers. My plane isn=99t any faster than last year. M= aybe a knot slower actually. That=99s comparing IAS before and af= ter adjusted for density altitude as well as GPS derived airspeed (by flying three dire= ctions) come out about the same as well. Below 9000=99 I kept the= prop at 2700 RPM (using external monitor not tach) so engine power isnR= 17;t a variable. At higher altitudes I used whatever full throttle got me and in both cases RPMs were generally the same at com= parable density altitudes. <= /p> <= /p> Dan <= /p> <= /p> From: owner-te= amgrumman-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-teamgrumman-list-server@m= atronics.com owner-teamgrumman-list-server@m=%20atronics.com> ] On Behalf Of Dan Schmitz Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2012 2:56 PM Subject: RE: TeamGrumman-List: Inlet Plugs for Jaguar Cowl on a Tige= r Just this morning, I comp= uted the density altitudes for a test run last Saturday. It was a per= fect calm day for speed testing with light winds coming off the ocean (no mountain waves). But then I forgot most of my past results= are on a my airplane=99s pocket PC back home. I don=99t thin= k my new numbers are much different maybe one or two knots better. I = dropped in on Brooks with the hopes of talking to him about making some of the adjustments you noted but he was off with his kids. <= /p> Do you think if I plug th= e hole in the one baffle and close the gap in the top center with some rubb= er, will that make any difference? <= /p> Dan Schmitz Tiger 4518B KASH <= /p> <= /p> From: owner-teamgr= umman-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-teamgrumman-list-server(at)matronics.com= ] On Behalf Of Gary Vogt Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2012 1:50 PM Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Inlet Plugs for Jaguar Cowl on a Tige= r Any updates on your= cowl . . . speed? CHTs? =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D eamGrumman-List Email Forum - > :p> /o:p> tor?TeamGrumman-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?TeamGrumman-List =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D bsp; - MATRONICS WEB FORUMS - :p> tp://forums.matronics.com =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D bsp; - List Contribution Web Site - e> bsp; &nbs= p; -Matt Dralle, List Admin. <= /b> bution">http://www.matronics.com/contribution =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?TeamGrumman-List http://forums.matronics.com http://www.matronics.com/contribution =C2=C2=B7~=B0=C2=B2, _____ g=93=C3=93=C3=93 http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?TeamGrumman-Listhttp://===== ================= ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Inlet Plugs for Jaguar Cowl on a Tiger
From: 923TE <923te(at)att.net>
Date: May 25, 2012
Gary, No What do you mean, modified? On May 24, 2012, at 12:35 PM, Gary Vogt wrote: > Ned, did you get the cowling modified? > > From: 923TE <923te(at)att.net> > To: "teamgrumman-list(at)matronics.com" > Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2012 7:00 AM > Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Inlet Plugs for Jaguar Cowl on a Tiger > > Dan, > I would think that flight testing and comparing at lower altitudes, near s ea level if possible, would maximize any effects due to drag reduction. Also , it is very difficult to get repeatable results. If you are not setting the engine the same you probably won't get repeatable results. Breaking in a cy linder definitely has a negative effect. But if your oil consumption has dro pped since the new install it's probably already broke in. Lycoming says kee p doing break in procedure for 50 hrs. > > I always set for best power by the Lycoming book method and then check it by adjusting the mixture with the prop set in manual mode to ensure maximum rpm. I fly at equivalent density altitude calculated on the fly by the Garm in 430 and also do the compass ordinates and formulas for wind correction. I try and fly at the same OAT. Seems to make a difference even though I am fl ying at equivalent DAs. I always have the same amount of fuel on board, have a freshly cleaned and waxed plane and prop and ensure the same CG. The flap s have to be in exactly the same position, whatever that was last time. A di fference of even 1 deg up or down will effect your speed. This is hard to ge t consistent. If a trim tab was touched between tests it will also affect yo ur results. I always repeat the test 3 or 4 times until the numbers repeat. I f they don't repeat then something is changing and I quit and try another da y. It's really tedious to get good numbers but it's another excuse to go fly ;) Food for thought, the air speed needle is about 2 kts wide, so it's reall y hard to detect a 1-2 knot speed increase. Thats one reason why I record in dicated airspeed, true air speed and ground speed from the gps on every flig ht test. The last 2 are digital from the Garmin. Another uncanny result I co ntinue to experience is that flying directly with the wind almost always get s me 2 more knots than flying directly into the wind. I think David Fletcher told me this was his experience also. That's not supposed to be that way. W eird huh? > > Something to think about is that if you are getting about the same speed a s before Jaguar but have lower CHTs then you are in effect going faster. Tha t energy is just being lost by the increased cooling drag. Maybe an area wor th experimenting with;) > > My after Jag experience is that the speed is about the same but the coolin g is better by about 45 deg F. My plane was already fast so the typical spee d increase from the Jag wouldn't be as likely for it. If I can get my CHTs b ack to 380s from the now 330s by cooling drag reduction, I think I might see that 5-7 kts increase I had hoped for. > BTW, what brand gauges are you using for the temperatures? > Regards, > Ned > > > On May 24, 2012, at 7:04 AM, Dan Schmitz wrote: > >> If IAS is meaningless, then computing TAS off of IAS is a pointless exerc ise. I was comparing IAS of density altitude to IAS of the same density alt itude. The TAS calculations will work out to be the same in either case. N ote that I completely ignored the IAS in a number of test runs where I simpl y used GPS ground speed in 3 directions to compute a TAS using some fun form ulas. The numbers all come out to =9Cno real change=9D. >> >> Now, by the argument that a prop turning X RPM at Y density altitude will see no speed change even as there are drag reductionsum counter-in tuitive, but my high altitude tests up to 13,300=99 with new cowl so f ar show no changes either. Of course, the problem with my high density alti tude tests then are they are at =9Cfull=9D engine power, I lean f or highest RPM in a speed test at higher altitudes. I don=99t imagine my engine is doing its best with a cylinder being broken in (maybe) and run ning on mineral oil. So there=99s power I=99m not getting yet. Do most Grummans see a 5 knot speedup after breaking in and switching to no rmal oil? >> >> Dan Schmitz >> Tiger 4518B >> KASH >> >> From: owner-teamgrumman-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-teamgrumm an-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gary Vogt >> Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2012 12:37 AM >> To: teamgrumman-list(at)matronics.com >> Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Inlet Plugs for Jaguar Cowl on a Tiger >> >> Dan, I really can't tell from here what is with your plane. I've install ed 7 Jaguar Cowlings and not one was slower. Do you know how to compute Tru e Airspeed? Indicated airspeed is meaningless. >> >> From: Dan Schmitz <Dan.Schmitz(at)calix.com> >> To: "teamgrumman-list(at)matronics.com" >> Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2012 11:55 AM >> Subject: RE: TeamGrumman-List: Inlet Plugs for Jaguar Cowl on a Tiger >> >> Just this morning, I computed the density altitudes for a test run last S aturday. It was a perfect calm day for speed testing with light winds comin g off the ocean (no mountain waves). But then I forgot most of my past resu lts are on a my airplane=99s pocket PC back home. I don=99t thi nk my new numbers are much different maybe one or two knots better. I dropp ed in on Brooks with the hopes of talking to him about making some of the ad justments you noted but he was off with his kids. >> >> Do you think if I plug the hole in the one baffle and close the gap in th e top center with some rubber, will that make any difference? >> >> Dan Schmitz >> Tiger 4518B >> KASH >> >> >> From: owner-teamgrumman-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-teamgrumm an-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gary Vogt >> Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2012 1:50 PM >> To: teamgrumman-list(at)matronics.com >> Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Inlet Plugs for Jaguar Cowl on a Tiger >> >> Any updates on your cowl . . . speed? 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Subject: Re: Inlet Plugs for Jaguar Cowl on a Tiger
From: 923TE <923te(at)att.net>
Date: May 25, 2012
Dan, If you only get 138 ktas then you have something else draggen your plane I suspect that something else isn't overcome by the drag reduction of the Ja g cowl If you were closer to Gary, he could find it. You should at least be in the high 140's Ned On May 24, 2012, at 2:42 PM, Dan Schmitz wrote: > All that work might be worth it to find out I=99m going +/- 2 knots f or real. 5 knots should be hard to miss, even if I=99m being kinda sl oppy. I do most speed tests solo starting with full tanks. My usual concer n is up/down drafts. For =9Csome period of time=9D generally a f ew minutes, I have to be able to fly hands off at a stable speed and no alti tude changes. If I=99m doing a GPS test, I do sometimes have to bump t he ailerons to keep an exact track. My aileron trim isn=99t that perf ect. If I detect any up/down drafts any time during the flight, I discard t he entire days numbers. > > All my temperature gauges, including OAT, are Electronics International. > > Dan > > > I always set for best power by the Lycoming book method and then check it by adjusting the mixture with the prop set in manual mode to ensure maximum rpm. I fly at equivalent density altitude calculated on the fly by the Garm in 430 and also do the compass ordinates and formulas for wind correction. I try and fly at the same OAT. Seems to make a difference even though I am fl ying at equivalent DAs. I always have the same amount of fuel on board, have a freshly cleaned and waxed plane and prop and ensure the same CG. The flap s have to be in exactly the same position, whatever that was last time. A di fference of even 1 deg up or down will effect your speed. This is hard to ge t consistent. If a trim tab was touched between tests it will also affect yo ur results. I always repeat the test 3 or 4 times until the numbers repeat. I f they don't repeat then something is changing and I quit and try another da y. It's really tedious to get good numbers but it's another excuse to go fly ;) Food for thought, the air speed needle is about 2 kts wide, so it's reall y hard to detect a 1-2 knot speed increase. Thats one reason why I record in dicated airspeed, true air speed and ground speed from the gps on every flig ht test. The last 2 are digital from the Garmin. Another uncanny result I co ntinue to experience is that flying directly with the wind almost always get s me 2 more knots than flying directly into the wind. I think David Fletcher told me this was his experience also. That's not supposed to be that way. W eird huh? > > Something to think about is that if you are getting about the same speed a s before Jaguar but have lower CHTs then you are in effect going faster. Tha t energy is just being lost by the increased cooling drag. Maybe an area wor th experimenting with;) > > My after Jag experience is that the speed is about the same but the coolin g is better by about 45 deg F. My plane was already fast so the typical spee d increase from the Jag wouldn't be as likely for it. If I can get my CHTs b ack to 380s from the now 330s by cooling drag reduction, I think I might see that 5-7 kts increase I had hoped for. > BTW, what brand gauges are you using for the temperatures? > Regards, > Ned > > > On May 24, 2012, at 7:04 AM, Dan Schmitz wrote: > > If IAS is meaningless, then computing TAS off of IAS is a pointless exerci se. I was comparing IAS of density altitude to IAS of the same density alti tude. The TAS calculations will work out to be the same in either case. No te that I completely ignored the IAS in a number of test runs where I simply used GPS ground speed in 3 directions to compute a TAS using some fun formu las. The numbers all come out to =9Cno real change=9D. > > Now, by the argument that a prop turning X RPM at Y density altitude will s ee no speed change even as there are drag reductionsum counter-intu itive, but my high altitude tests up to 13,300=99 with new cowl so far show no changes either. Of course, the problem with my high density altitu de tests then are they are at =9Cfull=9D engine power, I lean fo r highest RPM in a speed test at higher altitudes. I don=99t imagine m y engine is doing its best with a cylinder being broken in (maybe) and runni ng on mineral oil. So there=99s power I=99m not getting yet. D o most Grummans see a 5 knot speedup after breaking in and switching to norm al oil? > > Dan Schmitz > Tiger 4518B > KASH > > From: owner-teamgrumman-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-teamgrumma n-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gary Vogt > Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2012 12:37 AM > To: teamgrumman-list(at)matronics.com > Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Inlet Plugs for Jaguar Cowl on a Tiger > > Dan, I really can't tell from here what is with your plane. I've installe d 7 Jaguar Cowlings and not one was slower. Do you know how to compute True Airspeed? Indicated airspeed is meaningless. > > From: Dan Schmitz <Dan.Schmitz(at)calix.com> > To: "teamgrumman-list(at)matronics.com" > Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2012 11:55 AM > Subject: RE: TeamGrumman-List: Inlet Plugs for Jaguar Cowl on a Tiger > > Just this morning, I computed the density altitudes for a test run last Sa turday. It was a perfect calm day for speed testing with light winds coming off the ocean (no mountain waves). But then I forgot most of my past resul ts are on a my airplane=99s pocket PC back home. I don=99t thin k my new numbers are much different maybe one or two knots better. I droppe d in on Brooks with the hopes of talking to him about making some of the adj ustments you noted but he was off with his kids. > > Do you think if I plug the hole in the one baffle and close the gap in the top center with some rubber, will that make any difference? > > Dan Schmitz > Tiger 4518B > KASH > > > From: owner-teamgrumman-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-teamgrumma n-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gary Vogt > Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2012 1:50 PM > To: teamgrumman-list(at)matronics.com > Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Inlet Plugs for Jaguar Cowl on a Tiger > > Any updates on your cowl . . . speed? 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Subject: Re: Plugs leading up worse than normal
From: Gary L Vogt <teamgrumman(at)yahoo.com>
Date: May 24, 2012
If I set the plugs, I set them to .018. Gary Sent from my iPad On May 24, 2012, at 2:10 PM, "bkspero" wrote: > > > teamgrumman(at)yahoo.com wrote: >> I think the old rule was to do the run up at full rich. I've gone to leaning to near peak RPM at 1800 then doing the mag checks. If you forget to go full rich on takeoff, it will remind you when the engine stumbles. >> >> >> What plug are you running? >> >> >> What gap? >> >> >> [b] > > > Hi Gary. This is about 74429. Alan had the plugs replaced last September at about 390 hrs on the engine. He had type REM-38E installed. There is no entry for the gap in the logbook. It was at about 406 hrs when I bought it, and it is at about 450 hrs now. > > I will try the lean runup and see if it helps. > > Barry > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=373803#373803 > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Plugs leading up worse than normal
From: Gary L Vogt <teamgrumman(at)yahoo.com>
Date: May 24, 2012
Most people check the rpm incorrectly. At idle, full rich, engine warm, it should idle about 600-650 rpm. Lower is better since it makes landing easier. My plane idles at 450 rpm. At idle, very slowly pull the mixture out. Very slowly. The engine rpm should go up roughly 50 rpm at sea level. At 1500 feet, figure about 25-30 rpm. ANY throttle setting other than throttle closed at idle and the carb will NOT be operating on the idle circuit. Any checking of rpm rise without the throttle closed will give an artificially rich indication since the carb is operating on the transition circuit. Gary Sent from my iPad On May 24, 2012, at 2:19 PM, "bkspero" wrote: > > > flyv35b(at)minetfiber.com wrote: >> >> >> First off you can't check the idle mixture unless the engine is fully >> warmed up (after flying). Then you should get about a 25 rpm rise from >> full rich when you lean slowly at 800-1000 rpm, say. >> >> I always check carb heat at full rich mixture and see about 100 rpm drop >> at 1700rpm. I then lean to max rpm and it rises about 50 rpm or >> thereabouts. I let it run there for 10 seconds and then do the mag >> check with it leaned. I leave it leaned until ready to takeoff and then >> shove the mixture in. You won't forget as the engine will stumble upon >> throttle application if you forget. I always taxi with it leaned as far >> as the engine with still run smoothly. I always lean in the air, even >> at low altitude, when the power is reduced for cruise. Plugs run pretty >> clean for 100 hrs. >> >> Cliff > > > Thanks for the input, Cliff. I now taxi lean to peak rpm. And do lean in the air even at low altitude as long as the power is low. > > Plane gives the 200+ idle rpm increase whether the engine is cold or its been flying for hours. > > Makes sense to do the carb heat check while rich. Will try the lean mag runup. Hoping that's the key. > > Thanks again. > > Barry > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=373807#373807 > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Plugs leading up worse than normal
From: Gary L Vogt <teamgrumman(at)yahoo.com>
Date: May 24, 2012
There is a fine dance between the throttle plate setting and the mixture setting. Look at my web site, front page, technical, and look for setting the engine idle. Gary Sent from my iPad On May 24, 2012, at 2:28 PM, flyv35b wrote: > > On 5/24/2012 2:19 PM, bkspero wrote: >> --> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: "bkspero" >> >> >> flyv35b(at)minetfiber.com wrote: >>> >>> >>> First off you can't check the idle mixture unless the engine is fully >>> warmed up (after flying). Then you should get about a 25 rpm rise from >>> full rich when you lean slowly at 800-1000 rpm, say. >>> >>> I always check carb heat at full rich mixture and see about 100 rpm drop >>> at 1700rpm. I then lean to max rpm and it rises about 50 rpm or >>> thereabouts. I let it run there for 10 seconds and then do the mag >>> check with it leaned. I leave it leaned until ready to takeoff and then >>> shove the mixture in. You won't forget as the engine will stumble upon >>> throttle application if you forget. I always taxi with it leaned as far >>> as the engine with still run smoothly. I always lean in the air, even >>> at low altitude, when the power is reduced for cruise. Plugs run pretty >>> clean for 100 hrs. >>> >>> Cliff >> >> >> Thanks for the input, Cliff. I now taxi lean to peak rpm. And do lean in the air even at low altitude as long as the power is low. >> >> Plane gives the 200+ idle rpm increase whether the engine is cold or its been flying for hours. >> >> Makes sense to do the carb heat check while rich. Will try the lean mag runup. Hoping that's the key. >> >> Thanks again. >> >> Barry >> >> >> >> >> Read this topic online here: >> >> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=373807#373807 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > Well, your idle mixture adjustment is way to rich if you are getting 200+ rpm rise when you lean, if your checking it with a warm engine. You might see that much with a cold engine right after start up. > > Turn your idle mixture screw in 1/2 turn and recheck it. > > Cliff > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: May 24, 2012
Subject: Re: Plugs leading up worse than normal
From: Brian Hausknecht <bhauskne(at)gmail.com>
And yet the standard procedure we are all taught is 1800 Mag check. Sounds like you are giving unsubstantiated advice that is contrary to aircraft and engine operating instructions. Probably better to stick to the aircraft operating manual. On May 24, 2012 10:36 PM, "Gary L Vogt" wrote: > > > > Most people check the rpm incorrectly. > > At idle, full rich, engine warm, it should idle about 600-650 rpm. Lower > is better since it makes landing easier. My plane idles at 450 rpm. > > At idle, very slowly pull the mixture out. Very slowly. The engine rpm > should go up roughly 50 rpm at sea level. At 1500 feet, figure about 25-30 > rpm. > > ANY throttle setting other than throttle closed at idle and the carb will > NOT be operating on the idle circuit. Any checking of rpm rise without the > throttle closed will give an artificially rich indication since the carb is > operating on the transition circuit. > > Gary > Sent from my iPad > > On May 24, 2012, at 2:19 PM, "bkspero" wrote: > > > > > > > flyv35b(at)minetfiber.com wrote: > >> > >> > >> First off you can't check the idle mixture unless the engine is fully > >> warmed up (after flying). Then you should get about a 25 rpm rise from > >> full rich when you lean slowly at 800-1000 rpm, say. > >> > >> I always check carb heat at full rich mixture and see about 100 rpm drop > >> at 1700rpm. I then lean to max rpm and it rises about 50 rpm or > >> thereabouts. I let it run there for 10 seconds and then do the mag > >> check with it leaned. I leave it leaned until ready to takeoff and then > >> shove the mixture in. You won't forget as the engine will stumble upon > >> throttle application if you forget. I always taxi with it leaned as far > >> as the engine with still run smoothly. I always lean in the air, even > >> at low altitude, when the power is reduced for cruise. Plugs run pretty > >> clean for 100 hrs. > >> > >> Cliff > > > > > > Thanks for the input, Cliff. I now taxi lean to peak rpm. And do lean > in the air even at low altitude as long as the power is low. > > > > Plane gives the 200+ idle rpm increase whether the engine is cold or its > been flying for hours. > > > > Makes sense to do the carb heat check while rich. Will try the lean mag > runup. Hoping that's the key. > > > > Thanks again. > > > > Barry > > > > > > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=373807#373807 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Inlet Plugs for Jaguar Cowl on a Tiger
From: Gary L Vogt <teamgrumman(at)yahoo.com>
Date: May 24, 2012
N3752W: 144 knots N1976T: 145 knots N28747: 148 knots If your plane is not 140 knots, something is wrong. What prop are you turnin g? Gary Sent from my iPad On May 24, 2012, at 1:10 PM, Dan Schmitz wrote: > Me too (wish I was closer). I=99ll be at Oshkosh for the AYA conven tion. Anyway what kind of speeds were you getting pre and post Jaguar? My b est speeds both pre and post are 138 knots. Did your other planes go from 1 33 to 138? I=99ve always been able to run a bit over 2700 RPM at 8000 =99 and that=99s with a 64=9D pitch sensenich. Right abou t 9000=99 DA is where full throttle equals 2700 RPM (strobe checked, n ot tach), again both before and after the new cowl. > > Dan > > From: owner-teamgrumman-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-teamgrumma n-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gary Vogt > Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2012 1:29 PM > To: teamgrumman-list(at)matronics.com > Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Inlet Plugs for Jaguar Cowl on a Tiger > > Well, Dan, > > On N3752W, the only change to the plane was the cowling. Right out of the hangar it was 5 knots (TAS) faster than the stock cowling at altitudes betw een 1500 feet and 5500 feet and 2700 rpm. It was also easier to run past 27 00 rpm at 8000 feet. So, I don't know what to tell you. > > When I installed the very first one on N119ST, it was 9 knots (TAS) faster . On my plane with a 65-63-61 prop, it was 10 knots (TAS) faster. Both at 2 700 rpm. My old cowling, however, didn't fit well, was debonding and patche d all over. > > I wish you were closer. > > Gary > > From: Dan Schmitz <Dan.Schmitz(at)calix.com> > To: "teamgrumman-list(at)matronics.com" > Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2012 5:04 AM > Subject: RE: TeamGrumman-List: Inlet Plugs for Jaguar Cowl on a Tiger > > If IAS is meaningless, then computing TAS off of IAS is a pointless exerci se. I was comparing IAS of density altitude to IAS of the same density alti tude. The TAS calculations will work out to be the same in either case. No te that I completely ignored the IAS in a number of test runs where I simply used GPS ground speed in 3 directions to compute a TAS using some fun formu las. The numbers all come out to =C3=A2=82=AC=C5=93no real change=C3=A2 =82=AC=EF=BD. > > Now, by the argument that a prop turning X RPM at Y density altitude will s ee no speed change even as there are drag reductions=C3=A2=82=AC=C2um c ounter-intuitive, but my high altitude tests up to 13,300=C3=A2=82=AC=84 =A2 with new cowl so far show no changes either. Of course, the problem wit h my high density altitude tests then are they are at =C3=A2=82=AC=C5=93f ull=C3=A2=82=AC=EF=BD engine power, I lean for highest RPM in a speed t est at higher altitudes. I don=C3=A2=82=AC=84=A2t imagine my engine i s doing its best with a cylinder being broken in (maybe) and running on mine ral oil. So there=C3=A2=82=AC=84=A2s power I=C3=A2=82=AC=84=A2m not getting yet. Do most Grummans see a 5 knot speedup after breaking in a nd switching to normal oil? > > Dan Schmitz > Tiger 4518B > KASH > > From: owner-teamgrumman-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-teamgrumma n-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gary Vogt > Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2012 12:37 AM > To: teamgrumman-list(at)matronics.com > Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Inlet Plugs for Jaguar Cowl on a Tiger > > Dan, I really can't tell from here what is with your plane. I've installe d 7 Jaguar Cowlings and not one was slower. Do you know how to compute True Airspeed? Indicated airspeed is meaningless. > > From: Dan Schmitz <Dan.Schmitz(at)calix.com> > To: "teamgrumman-list(at)matronics.com" > Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2012 11:55 AM > Subject: RE: TeamGrumman-List: Inlet Plugs for Jaguar Cowl on a Tiger > > Just this morning, I computed the density altitudes for a test run last Sa turday. It was a perfect calm day for speed testing with light winds coming off the ocean (no mountain waves). But then I forgot most of my past resul ts are on a my airplane=C3=A2=82=AC=84=A2s pocket PC back home. I don =C3=A2=82=AC=84=A2t think my new numbers are much different maybe one o r two knots better. I dropped in on Brooks with the hopes of talking to him about making some of the adjustments you noted but he was off with his kids . > > Do you think if I plug the hole in the one baffle and close the gap in the top center with some rubber, will that make any difference? > > Dan Schmitz > Tiger 4518B > KASH > > > From: owner-teamgrumman-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-teamgrumma n-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gary Vogt > Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2012 1:50 PM > To: teamgrumman-list(at)matronics.com > Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Inlet Plugs for Jaguar Cowl on a Tiger > > Any updates on your cowl . . . speed? 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Subject: Re: Inlet Plugs for Jaguar Cowl on a Tiger
From: Gary L Vogt <teamgrumman(at)yahoo.com>
Date: May 24, 2012
Oh, I see what prop now. I've never flown a Tiger that didn't do at least 138 knots true. Brian, what are your speeds? Gary Sent from my iPad On May 24, 2012, at 1:10 PM, Dan Schmitz wrote: > Me too (wish I was closer). I=99ll be at Oshkosh for the AYA conven tion. Anyway what kind of speeds were you getting pre and post Jaguar? My b est speeds both pre and post are 138 knots. Did your other planes go from 1 33 to 138? I=99ve always been able to run a bit over 2700 RPM at 8000 =99 and that=99s with a 64=9D pitch sensenich. Right abou t 9000=99 DA is where full throttle equals 2700 RPM (strobe checked, n ot tach), again both before and after the new cowl. > > Dan > > From: owner-teamgrumman-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-teamgrumma n-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gary Vogt > Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2012 1:29 PM > To: teamgrumman-list(at)matronics.com > Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Inlet Plugs for Jaguar Cowl on a Tiger > > Well, Dan, > > On N3752W, the only change to the plane was the cowling. Right out of the hangar it was 5 knots (TAS) faster than the stock cowling at altitudes betw een 1500 feet and 5500 feet and 2700 rpm. It was also easier to run past 27 00 rpm at 8000 feet. So, I don't know what to tell you. > > When I installed the very first one on N119ST, it was 9 knots (TAS) faster . On my plane with a 65-63-61 prop, it was 10 knots (TAS) faster. Both at 2 700 rpm. My old cowling, however, didn't fit well, was debonding and patche d all over. > > I wish you were closer. > > Gary > > From: Dan Schmitz <Dan.Schmitz(at)calix.com> > To: "teamgrumman-list(at)matronics.com" > Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2012 5:04 AM > Subject: RE: TeamGrumman-List: Inlet Plugs for Jaguar Cowl on a Tiger > > If IAS is meaningless, then computing TAS off of IAS is a pointless exerci se. I was comparing IAS of density altitude to IAS of the same density alti tude. The TAS calculations will work out to be the same in either case. No te that I completely ignored the IAS in a number of test runs where I simply used GPS ground speed in 3 directions to compute a TAS using some fun formu las. The numbers all come out to =C3=A2=82=AC=C5=93no real change=C3=A2 =82=AC=EF=BD. > > Now, by the argument that a prop turning X RPM at Y density altitude will s ee no speed change even as there are drag reductions=C3=A2=82=AC=C2um c ounter-intuitive, but my high altitude tests up to 13,300=C3=A2=82=AC=84 =A2 with new cowl so far show no changes either. Of course, the problem wit h my high density altitude tests then are they are at =C3=A2=82=AC=C5=93f ull=C3=A2=82=AC=EF=BD engine power, I lean for highest RPM in a speed t est at higher altitudes. I don=C3=A2=82=AC=84=A2t imagine my engine i s doing its best with a cylinder being broken in (maybe) and running on mine ral oil. So there=C3=A2=82=AC=84=A2s power I=C3=A2=82=AC=84=A2m not getting yet. Do most Grummans see a 5 knot speedup after breaking in a nd switching to normal oil? > > Dan Schmitz > Tiger 4518B > KASH > > From: owner-teamgrumman-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-teamgrumma n-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gary Vogt > Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2012 12:37 AM > To: teamgrumman-list(at)matronics.com > Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Inlet Plugs for Jaguar Cowl on a Tiger > > Dan, I really can't tell from here what is with your plane. I've installe d 7 Jaguar Cowlings and not one was slower. Do you know how to compute True Airspeed? Indicated airspeed is meaningless. > > From: Dan Schmitz <Dan.Schmitz(at)calix.com> > To: "teamgrumman-list(at)matronics.com" > Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2012 11:55 AM > Subject: RE: TeamGrumman-List: Inlet Plugs for Jaguar Cowl on a Tiger > > Just this morning, I computed the density altitudes for a test run last Sa turday. It was a perfect calm day for speed testing with light winds coming off the ocean (no mountain waves). But then I forgot most of my past resul ts are on a my airplane=C3=A2=82=AC=84=A2s pocket PC back home. I don =C3=A2=82=AC=84=A2t think my new numbers are much different maybe one o r two knots better. I dropped in on Brooks with the hopes of talking to him about making some of the adjustments you noted but he was off with his kids . > > Do you think if I plug the hole in the one baffle and close the gap in the top center with some rubber, will that make any difference? > > Dan Schmitz > Tiger 4518B > KASH > > > From: owner-teamgrumman-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-teamgrumma n-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gary Vogt > Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2012 1:50 PM > To: teamgrumman-list(at)matronics.com > Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Inlet Plugs for Jaguar Cowl on a Tiger > > Any updates on your cowl . . . speed? 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Subject: Re: Inlet Plugs for Jaguar Cowl on a Tiger
From: Gary L Vogt <teamgrumman(at)yahoo.com>
Date: May 24, 2012
Changing the angle of the cowling. Gary Sent from my iPad On May 24, 2012, at 10:01 PM, 923TE <923te(at)att.net> wrote: > Gary, > No > What do you mean, modified? > > > > On May 24, 2012, at 12:35 PM, Gary Vogt wrote: > >> Ned, did you get the cowling modified? >> >> From: 923TE <923te(at)att.net> >> To: "teamgrumman-list(at)matronics.com" >> Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2012 7:00 AM >> Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Inlet Plugs for Jaguar Cowl on a Tiger >> >> Dan, >> I would think that flight testing and comparing at lower altitudes, near s ea level if possible, would maximize any effects due to drag reduction. Also , it is very difficult to get repeatable results. If you are not setting the engine the same you probably won't get repeatable results. Breaking in a cy linder definitely has a negative effect. But if your oil consumption has dro pped since the new install it's probably already broke in. Lycoming says kee p doing break in procedure for 50 hrs. >> >> I always set for best power by the Lycoming book method and then check i t by adjusting the mixture with the prop set in manual mode to ensure maximu m rpm. I fly at equivalent density altitude calculated on the fly by the Gar min 430 and also do the compass ordinates and formulas for wind correction. I try and fly at the same OAT. Seems to make a difference even though I am fl ying at equivalent DAs. I always have the same amount of fuel on board, have a freshly cleaned and waxed plane and prop and ensure the same CG. The flap s have to be in exactly the same position, whatever that was last time. A di fference of even 1 deg up or down will effect your speed. This is hard to ge t consistent. If a trim tab was touched between tests it will also affect yo ur results. I always repeat the test 3 or 4 times until the numbers repeat. I f they don't repeat then something is changing and I quit and try another da y. It's really tedious to get good numbers but it's another excuse to go fly ;) Food for thought, the air speed needle is about 2 kts wide, so it's reall y hard to detect a 1-2 knot speed increase. Thats one reason why I record in dicated airspeed, true air speed and ground speed from the gps on every flig ht test. The last 2 are digital from the Garmin. Another uncanny result I co ntinue to experience is that flying directly with the wind almost always get s me 2 more knots than flying directly into the wind. I think David Fletcher told me this was his experience also. That's not supposed to be that way. W eird huh? >> >> Something to think about is that if you are getting about the same speed a s before Jaguar but have lower CHTs then you are in effect going faster. Tha t energy is just being lost by the increased cooling drag. Maybe an area wor th experimenting with;) >> >> My after Jag experience is that the speed is about the same but the cooli ng is better by about 45 deg F. My plane was already fast so the typical spe ed increase from the Jag wouldn't be as likely for it. If I can get my CHTs b ack to 380s from the now 330s by cooling drag reduction, I think I might see that 5-7 kts increase I had hoped for. >> BTW, what brand gauges are you using for the temperatures? >> Regards, >> Ned >> >> >> On May 24, 2012, at 7:04 AM, Dan Schmitz wrote: >> >>> If IAS is meaningless, then computing TAS off of IAS is a pointless exer cise. I was comparing IAS of density altitude to IAS of the same density al titude. The TAS calculations will work out to be the same in either case. N ote that I completely ignored the IAS in a number of test runs where I simpl y used GPS ground speed in 3 directions to compute a TAS using some fun form ulas. The numbers all come out to =9Cno real change=9D. >>> >>> Now, by the argument that a prop turning X RPM at Y density altitude wil l see no speed change even as there are drag reductionsum counter-i ntuitive, but my high altitude tests up to 13,300=99 with new cowl so f ar show no changes either. Of course, the problem with my high density alti tude tests then are they are at =9Cfull=9D engine power, I lean f or highest RPM in a speed test at higher altitudes. I don=99t imagine my engine is doing its best with a cylinder being broken in (maybe) and run ning on mineral oil. So there=99s power I=99m not getting yet. Do most Grummans see a 5 knot speedup after breaking in and switching to no rmal oil? >>> >>> Dan Schmitz >>> Tiger 4518B >>> KASH >>> >>> From: owner-teamgrumman-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-teamgrum man-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gary Vogt >>> Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2012 12:37 AM >>> To: teamgrumman-list(at)matronics.com >>> Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Inlet Plugs for Jaguar Cowl on a Tiger >>> >>> Dan, I really can't tell from here what is with your plane. I've instal led 7 Jaguar Cowlings and not one was slower. Do you know how to compute Tr ue Airspeed? Indicated airspeed is meaningless. >>> >>> From: Dan Schmitz <Dan.Schmitz(at)calix.com> >>> To: "teamgrumman-list(at)matronics.com" >>> Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2012 11:55 AM >>> Subject: RE: TeamGrumman-List: Inlet Plugs for Jaguar Cowl on a Tiger >>> >>> Just this morning, I computed the density altitudes for a test run last S aturday. It was a perfect calm day for speed testing with light winds comin g off the ocean (no mountain waves). But then I forgot most of my past resu lts are on a my airplane=99s pocket PC back home. I don=99t thi nk my new numbers are much different maybe one or two knots better. I dropp ed in on Brooks with the hopes of talking to him about making some of the ad justments you noted but he was off with his kids. >>> >>> Do you think if I plug the hole in the one baffle and close the gap in t he top center with some rubber, will that make any difference? >>> >>> Dan Schmitz >>> Tiger 4518B >>> KASH >>> >>> >>> From: owner-teamgrumman-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-teamgrum man-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gary Vogt >>> Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2012 1:50 PM >>> To: teamgrumman-list(at)matronics.com >>> Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Inlet Plugs for Jaguar Cowl on a Tiger >>> >>> Any updates on your cowl . . . speed? 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Subject: Re: Plugs leading up worse than normal
From: Gary L Vogt <teamgrumman(at)yahoo.com>
Date: May 24, 2012
Brian H, Maybe you have trouble understanding the written English. We are not talking about mag checks. I was not giving unsubstantiated advice. I am describing setting the engine idle and idle mixture. If you are having trouble following the conversation, I suggest you reread t he text. If you are still having trouble following the conversation, go have another beer and reread it in the morning. Gary Sent from my iPad On May 24, 2012, at 10:41 PM, Brian Hausknecht wrote: > And yet the standard procedure we are all taught is 1800 Mag check. Sounds like you are giving unsubstantiated advice that is contrary to aircraft and engine operating instructions. > > Probably better to stick to the aircraft operating manual. > > On May 24, 2012 10:36 PM, "Gary L Vogt" wrote: > > > Most people check the rpm incorrectly. > > At idle, full rich, engine warm, it should idle about 600-650 rpm. Lower i s better since it makes landing easier. My plane idles at 450 rpm. > > At idle, very slowly pull the mixture out. Very slowly. The engine rpm sh ould go up roughly 50 rpm at sea level. At 1500 feet, figure about 25-30 rpm . > > ANY throttle setting other than throttle closed at idle and the carb will N OT be operating on the idle circuit. Any checking of rpm rise without the th rottle closed will give an artificially rich indication since the carb is op erating on the transition circuit. > > Gary > Sent from my iPad > > On May 24, 2012, at 2:19 PM, "bkspero" wrote: > > > > > > > flyv35b(at)minetfiber.com wrote: > >> > >> > >> First off you can't check the idle mixture unless the engine is fully > >> warmed up (after flying). Then you should get about a 25 rpm rise from > >> full rich when you lean slowly at 800-1000 rpm, say. > >> > >> I always check carb heat at full rich mixture and see about 100 rpm dro p > >> at 1700rpm. I then lean to max rpm and it rises about 50 rpm or > >> thereabouts. I let it run there for 10 seconds and then do the mag > >> check with it leaned. I leave it leaned until ready to takeoff and the n > >> shove the mixture in. You won't forget as the engine will stumble upon > >> throttle application if you forget. I always taxi with it leaned as fa r > >> as the engine with still run smoothly. I always lean in the air, even > >> at low altitude, when the power is reduced for cruise. Plugs run prett y > >> clean for 100 hrs. > >> > >> Cliff > > > > > > Thanks for the input, Cliff. I now taxi lean to peak rpm. And do lean i n the air even at low altitude as long as the power is low. > > > > Plane gives the 200+ idle rpm increase whether the engine is cold or its been flying for hours. > > > > Makes sense to do the carb heat check while rich. Will try the lean mag runup. Hoping that's the key. > > > > Thanks again. > > > > Barry > > > > > > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=373807#373807 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ========== > List" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?TeamGrumman-Lis t > ========== > http://forums.matronics.com > ========== > le, List Admin. > ="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution > ========== > > > > > ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= > ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: May 24, 2012
Subject: Re: Plugs leading up worse than normal
From: Brian Hausknecht <bhauskne(at)gmail.com>
Nope, didn't misunderstand English. Reread the discussion and you will see that it includes the mag check process, which is the process we typically do to check the mags which also includes leaning for the rpm increase. I see now that you were talking about a different test that is not normally done, a mixture check at idle. Not in any of my checklists but I see now that this could be another useful check of idle mixture. Probably something my AI does at annual. Sorry for suggesting you were looking at a process different than our manuals, you were adding another check. On May 24, 2012 11:06 PM, "Gary L Vogt" wrote: > Brian H, > > Maybe you have trouble understanding the written English. We are not > talking about mag checks. I was not giving unsubstantiated advice. > > I am describing setting the engine idle and idle mixture. > > If you are having trouble following the conversation, I suggest you reread > the text. If you are still having trouble following the conversation, go > have another beer and reread it in the morning. > > Gary > Sent from my iPad > > On May 24, 2012, at 10:41 PM, Brian Hausknecht wrote: > > And yet the standard procedure we are all taught is 1800 Mag check. Sounds > like you are giving unsubstantiated advice that is contrary to aircraft and > engine operating instructions. > > Probably better to stick to the aircraft operating manual. > On May 24, 2012 10:36 PM, "Gary L Vogt" wrote: > >> teamgrumman(at)yahoo.com> >> >> Most people check the rpm incorrectly. >> >> At idle, full rich, engine warm, it should idle about 600-650 rpm. Lower >> is better since it makes landing easier. My plane idles at 450 rpm. >> >> At idle, very slowly pull the mixture out. Very slowly. The engine rpm >> should go up roughly 50 rpm at sea level. At 1500 feet, figure about 25-30 >> rpm. >> >> ANY throttle setting other than throttle closed at idle and the carb will >> NOT be operating on the idle circuit. Any checking of rpm rise without the >> throttle closed will give an artificially rich indication since the carb is >> operating on the transition circuit. >> >> Gary >> Sent from my iPad >> >> On May 24, 2012, at 2:19 PM, "bkspero" wrote: >> >> > >> > >> > flyv35b(at)minetfiber.com wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> First off you can't check the idle mixture unless the engine is fully >> >> warmed up (after flying). Then you should get about a 25 rpm rise from >> >> full rich when you lean slowly at 800-1000 rpm, say. >> >> >> >> I always check carb heat at full rich mixture and see about 100 rpm >> drop >> >> at 1700rpm. I then lean to max rpm and it rises about 50 rpm or >> >> thereabouts. I let it run there for 10 seconds and then do the mag >> >> check with it leaned. I leave it leaned until ready to takeoff and >> then >> >> shove the mixture in. You won't forget as the engine will stumble upon >> >> throttle application if you forget. I always taxi with it leaned as >> far >> >> as the engine with still run smoothly. I always lean in the air, even >> >> at low altitude, when the power is reduced for cruise. Plugs run >> pretty >> >> clean for 100 hrs. >> >> >> >> Cliff >> > >> > >> > Thanks for the input, Cliff. I now taxi lean to peak rpm. And do lean >> in the air even at low altitude as long as the power is low. >> > >> > Plane gives the 200+ idle rpm increase whether the engine is cold or >> its been flying for hours. >> > >> > Makes sense to do the carb heat check while rich. Will try the lean >> mag runup. Hoping that's the key. >> > >> > Thanks again. >> > >> > Barry >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > Read this topic online here: >> > >> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=373807#373807 >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >> >> ========== >> List" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?TeamGrumman-List >> ========== >> http://forums.matronics.com >> ========== >> le, List Admin. >> ="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution >> ========== >> >> >> >> * > > href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?TeamGrumman-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?TeamGrumman-List > href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com > href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/contribution > * > > * > > * > > ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Plugs leading up worse than normal
From: Gary L Vogt <teamgrumman(at)yahoo.com>
Date: May 24, 2012
As for rpm drop during carb heat teat, I check at 1800 rpm leaned. It's in m y checklist right after mag check. I have records of over 2000 post annual checks for engine runup. On the ave rage, carb heat decreases rpm anywhere from 50 to 100 rpm. It makes a differ ence what the OAT is, it makes a difference what the altimeter setting is. T he same plane will show various rpm drops as the annual cycles months over t he years. During the carb heat rise testing for the Jaguar cowling, I tested two diffe rent Tiger air boxes. The early ones (pre-77) give less rpm drop. The air is n't as hot. Lots of leaks. Gary Sent from my iPad On May 24, 2012, at 11:03 PM, Gary L Vogt wrote: > Brian H, > > Maybe you have trouble understanding the written English. We are not talki ng about mag checks. I was not giving unsubstantiated advice. > > I am describing setting the engine idle and idle mixture. > > If you are having trouble following the conversation, I suggest you reread the text. If you are still having trouble following the conversation, go ha ve another beer and reread it in the morning. > > Gary > Sent from my iPad > > On May 24, 2012, at 10:41 PM, Brian Hausknecht wrote: > >> And yet the standard procedure we are all taught is 1800 Mag check. Sound s like you are giving unsubstantiated advice that is contrary to aircraft an d engine operating instructions. >> >> Probably better to stick to the aircraft operating manual. >> >> On May 24, 2012 10:36 PM, "Gary L Vogt" wrote: m> >> >> Most people check the rpm incorrectly. >> >> At idle, full rich, engine warm, it should idle about 600-650 rpm. Lower i s better since it makes landing easier. My plane idles at 450 rpm. >> >> At idle, very slowly pull the mixture out. Very slowly. The engine rpm s hould go up roughly 50 rpm at sea level. At 1500 feet, figure about 25-30 rp m. >> >> ANY throttle setting other than throttle closed at idle and the carb will NOT be operating on the idle circuit. Any checking of rpm rise without the t hrottle closed will give an artificially rich indication since the carb is o perating on the transition circuit. >> >> Gary >> Sent from my iPad >> >> On May 24, 2012, at 2:19 PM, "bkspero" wrote: >> >> > >> > >> > flyv35b(at)minetfiber.com wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> First off you can't check the idle mixture unless the engine is fully >> >> warmed up (after flying). Then you should get about a 25 rpm rise fro m >> >> full rich when you lean slowly at 800-1000 rpm, say. >> >> >> >> I always check carb heat at full rich mixture and see about 100 rpm dr op >> >> at 1700rpm. I then lean to max rpm and it rises about 50 rpm or >> >> thereabouts. I let it run there for 10 seconds and then do the mag >> >> check with it leaned. I leave it leaned until ready to takeoff and th en >> >> shove the mixture in. You won't forget as the engine will stumble upo n >> >> throttle application if you forget. I always taxi with it leaned as f ar >> >> as the engine with still run smoothly. I always lean in the air, even >> >> at low altitude, when the power is reduced for cruise. Plugs run pret ty >> >> clean for 100 hrs. >> >> >> >> Cliff >> > >> > >> > Thanks for the input, Cliff. I now taxi lean to peak rpm. And do lean in the air even at low altitude as long as the power is low. >> > >> > Plane gives the 200+ idle rpm increase whether the engine is cold or it s been flying for hours. >> > >> > Makes sense to do the carb heat check while rich. Will try the lean ma g runup. Hoping that's the key. >> > >> > Thanks again. >> > >> > Barry >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > Read this topic online here: >> > >> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=373807#373807 >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >> >> ========== >> List" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?TeamGrumman-Li st >> ========== >> http://forums.matronics.com >> ========== >> le, List Admin. >> ="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution >> ========== >> >> >> >> >> >> href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?TeamGrumman-List">http://www.m atronics.com/Navigator?TeamGrumman-List >> href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com >> href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c ontribution >> > > ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= > ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: May 25, 2012
Subject: Re: ElectroAir
From: FLYaDIVE <flyadive(at)gmail.com>
Hi Gary: I don't want you to think I left you hanging out there, I was away for a while. Here are pictures of the 'silver' box (aluminum). The newer certified units must have changed to black. See picture # 001 As I mentioned, under the box are the two adjustments. But, before you go there look at the underside of the box. You will notice two slots, one of the slots has a foam rubber insert. This inset presses up against the adjustments and is used to hold them from moving. See picture # 010 & 011 On Sun, May 13, 2012 at 3:06 PM, Gary Vogt wrote: Barry, The unit that replaces the mag is similar to the magnetic pickup on the cam (or crank) on cars. - Just like in a car, it begins it's timing sequence at 0 BTDC. - There is no adjustment inside any box. [Barry] - See above - These are the adjustments. They are also called out in the manual. See picture # 010 & 011 - There is nothing to rub or wear out. [Barry] ' Well that is dependent on if you want to consider vibration on the adjustments. And that is why the rubber presses against the two adjustment knobs. See picture# 010 & 011 - The only moving part is a 60 tooth wheel inside the unit used in place of right mag. The DIS, just like in your car, requires that the engine go through one complete ignition sequence (2 revolutions) before it knows where it is. The backfiring was due to this learning curve. Following the instructions in the install manual, there will be a toggle that turns the unit off and on. - The coil is not in that loop. The coil stays hot. Two circuit breaker s. Two circuits. - You will not get a backfire unless you intentionally turn of both left and right and then turn one or the other on. Starting is done on both mags since they are both at 0 BTDC. Mag drop is tested by shutting off the Electroair with the toggle (this tests the left mag): 80 rpm drop Electroair turned back on. No backfire. Switch to Right Mag (this shorts the left mag and tests the Electroair): No noticeable drop in rpm. [Barry] - As stated, I have never tried starting on the EIS, since the RV6 has an Impulse Mag. Not my plane and the owner wants to start on Impulse so that is what I do. If you need a copy of the OLD (I call it old because it is for the original experimental version) operations manual I have pictures. Barry ________________________________________________________________________________
From: Dan Schmitz <Dan.Schmitz(at)calix.com>
Subject: Inlet Plugs for Jaguar Cowl on a Tiger
Date: May 25, 2012
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Subject: Re: Inlet Plugs for Jaguar Cowl on a Tiger
From: 923TE <923te(at)att.net>
Date: May 25, 2012
Then no I did not modify the cowling itself. What I did was: 1) I tightened the top pilot side engine mount as it had no threads showing 2) this brought the spinner into alignment with the factory cowl 3) the Jaguar cowl was now too short when aligned with the spinner in its pr oper position 4) I lengthened the Jaguar cowl probably to the same length it was when it c ame out of the molds before it was trimmed 5) I performed the Jaguar cowl installation according to the installation in structions you provided. Ned On May 25, 2012, at 12:54 AM, Gary L Vogt wrote: > Changing the angle of the cowling. > > Gary > Sent from my iPad > > On May 24, 2012, at 10:01 PM, 923TE <923te(at)att.net> wrote: > >> Gary, >> No >> What do you mean, modified? >> >> >> >> On May 24, 2012, at 12:35 PM, Gary Vogt wrote: >> >>> Ned, did you get the cowling modified? >>> >>> From: 923TE <923te(at)att.net> >>> To: "teamgrumman-list(at)matronics.com" >>> Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2012 7:00 AM >>> Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Inlet Plugs for Jaguar Cowl on a Tiger >>> >>> Dan, >>> I would think that flight testing and comparing at lower altitudes, near sea level if possible, would maximize any effects due to drag reduction. Al so, it is very difficult to get repeatable results. If you are not setting t he engine the same you probably won't get repeatable results. Breaking in a c ylinder definitely has a negative effect. But if your oil consumption has dr opped since the new install it's probably already broke in. Lycoming says ke ep doing break in procedure for 50 hrs. >>> >>> I always set for best power by the Lycoming book method and then check i t by adjusting the mixture with the prop set in manual mode to ensure maximu m rpm. I fly at equivalent density altitude calculated on the fly by the Gar min 430 and also do the compass ordinates and formulas for wind correction. I try and fly at the same OAT. Seems to make a difference even though I am fl ying at equivalent DAs. I always have the same amount of fuel on board, have a freshly cleaned and waxed plane and prop and ensure the same CG. The flap s have to be in exactly the same position, whatever that was last time. A di fference of even 1 deg up or down will effect your speed. This is hard to ge t consistent. If a trim tab was touched between tests it will also affect yo ur results. I always repeat the test 3 or 4 times until the numbers repeat. I f they don't repeat then something is changing and I quit and try another da y. It's really tedious to get good numbers but it's another excuse to go fly ;) Food for thought, the air speed needle is about 2 kts wide, so it's reall y hard to detect a 1-2 knot speed increase. Thats one reason why I record in dicated airspeed, true air speed and ground speed from the gps on every flig ht test. The last 2 are digital from the Garmin. Another uncanny result I co ntinue to experience is that flying directly with the wind almost always get s me 2 more knots than flying directly into the wind. I think David Fletcher told me this was his experience also. That's not supposed to be that way. W eird huh? >>> >>> Something to think about is that if you are getting about the same speed as before Jaguar but have lower CHTs then you are in effect going faster. T hat energy is just being lost by the increased cooling drag. Maybe an area w orth experimenting with;) >>> >>> My after Jag experience is that the speed is about the same but the cool ing is better by about 45 deg F. My plane was already fast so the typical sp eed increase from the Jag wouldn't be as likely for it. If I can get my CHTs back to 380s from the now 330s by cooling drag reduction, I think I might s ee that 5-7 kts increase I had hoped for. >>> BTW, what brand gauges are you using for the temperatures? >>> Regards, >>> Ned >>> >>> >>> On May 24, 2012, at 7:04 AM, Dan Schmitz wrote: >>> >>>> If IAS is meaningless, then computing TAS off of IAS is a pointless exe rcise. I was comparing IAS of density altitude to IAS of the same density a ltitude. The TAS calculations will work out to be the same in either case. Note that I completely ignored the IAS in a number of test runs where I sim ply used GPS ground speed in 3 directions to compute a TAS using some fun fo rmulas. The numbers all come out to =9Cno real change=9D. >>>> >>>> Now, by the argument that a prop turning X RPM at Y density altitude wi ll see no speed change even as there are drag reductionsum counter- intuitive, but my high altitude tests up to 13,300=99 with new cowl so far show no changes either. Of course, the problem with my high density al titude tests then are they are at =9Cfull=9D engine power, I lea n for highest RPM in a speed test at higher altitudes. I don=99t imag ine my engine is doing its best with a cylinder being broken in (maybe) and r unning on mineral oil. So there=99s power I=99m not getting yet . Do most Grummans see a 5 knot speedup after breaking in and switching to n ormal oil? >>>> >>>> Dan Schmitz >>>> Tiger 4518B >>>> KASH >>>> >>>> From: owner-teamgrumman-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-teamgru mman-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gary Vogt >>>> Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2012 12:37 AM >>>> To: teamgrumman-list(at)matronics.com >>>> Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Inlet Plugs for Jaguar Cowl on a Tiger >>>> >>>> Dan, I really can't tell from here what is with your plane. I've insta lled 7 Jaguar Cowlings and not one was slower. Do you know how to compute T rue Airspeed? Indicated airspeed is meaningless. >>>> >>>> From: Dan Schmitz <Dan.Schmitz(at)calix.com> >>>> To: "teamgrumman-list(at)matronics.com" >>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2012 11:55 AM >>>> Subject: RE: TeamGrumman-List: Inlet Plugs for Jaguar Cowl on a Tiger >>>> >>>> Just this morning, I computed the density altitudes for a test run last Saturday. It was a perfect calm day for speed testing with light winds com ing off the ocean (no mountain waves). But then I forgot most of my past re sults are on a my airplane=99s pocket PC back home. I don=99t t hink my new numbers are much different maybe one or two knots better. I dro pped in on Brooks with the hopes of talking to him about making some of the a djustments you noted but he was off with his kids. >>>> >>>> Do you think if I plug the hole in the one baffle and close the gap in t he top center with some rubber, will that make any difference? >>>> >>>> Dan Schmitz >>>> Tiger 4518B >>>> KASH >>>> >>>> >>>> From: owner-teamgrumman-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-teamgru mman-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gary Vogt >>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2012 1:50 PM >>>> To: teamgrumman-list(at)matronics.com >>>> Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Inlet Plugs for Jaguar Cowl on a Tiger >>>> >>>> Any updates on your cowl . . . speed? 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Subject: Re: Inlet Plugs for Jaguar Cowl on a Tiger
From: 923TE <923te(at)att.net>
Date: May 25, 2012
Dan the only way to get good results is at wide open throttle. You have no w ay of positively identifying when you are at 75% power in any consistent way . So if your "flight testing" was not done at wide open throttle and at the s ame best power setting then your data has no use in a pre - post Jaguar spee d comparison. Calculated results just don't cut it. When I change direction I fly for a minimum of 10 minutes on that new headin g before I am confident that I am seeing a stabilized air speed. Flight test ing is not really that easy to perform. On May 25, 2012, at 6:52 AM, Dan Schmitz wrote: > Is that full throttle at sea level? I should say that my 138 knots was st aying within the bounds of 75% power. If I did full power at 1000=99 I expect I=99d be in the low 140s for sure. Don=99t know how hig h. > > Dan > > From: owner-teamgrumman-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-teamgrumma n-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gary L Vogt > Sent: Friday, May 25, 2012 1:46 AM > To: teamgrumman-list(at)matronics.com > Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Inlet Plugs for Jaguar Cowl on a Tiger > > N3752W: 144 knots > N1976T: 145 knots > N28747: 148 knots > > If your plane is not 140 knots, something is wrong. What prop are you turn ing? > > Gary > Sent from my iPad > > On May 24, 2012, at 1:10 PM, Dan Schmitz wrote: > > Me too (wish I was closer). I=99ll be at Oshkosh for the AYA conven tion. Anyway what kind of speeds were you getting pre and post Jaguar? My b est speeds both pre and post are 138 knots. Did your other planes go from 1 33 to 138? I=99ve always been able to run a bit over 2700 RPM at 8000 =99 and that=99s with a 64=9D pitch sensenich. Right abou t 9000=99 DA is where full throttle equals 2700 RPM (strobe checked, n ot tach), again both before and after the new cowl. > > Dan > > From: owner-teamgrumman-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-teamgrumma n-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gary Vogt > Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2012 1:29 PM > To: teamgrumman-list(at)matronics.com > Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Inlet Plugs for Jaguar Cowl on a Tiger > > Well, Dan, > > On N3752W, the only change to the plane was the cowling. Right out of the hangar it was 5 knots (TAS) faster than the stock cowling at altitudes betw een 1500 feet and 5500 feet and 2700 rpm. It was also easier to run past 27 00 rpm at 8000 feet. So, I don't know what to tell you. > > When I installed the very first one on N119ST, it was 9 knots (TAS) faster . On my plane with a 65-63-61 prop, it was 10 knots (TAS) faster. Both at 2 700 rpm. My old cowling, however, didn't fit well, was debonding and patche d all over. > > I wish you were closer. > > Gary > > From: Dan Schmitz <Dan.Schmitz(at)calix.com> > To: "teamgrumman-list(at)matronics.com" > Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2012 5:04 AM > Subject: RE: TeamGrumman-List: Inlet Plugs for Jaguar Cowl on a Tiger > > If IAS is meaningless, then computing TAS off of IAS is a pointless exerci se. I was comparing IAS of density altitude to IAS of the same density alti tude. The TAS calculations will work out to be the same in either case. No te that I completely ignored the IAS in a number of test runs where I simply used GPS ground speed in 3 directions to compute a TAS using some fun formu las. The numbers all come out to =C3=A2=82=AC=C5=93no real change=C3=A2 =82=AC=EF=BD. > > Now, by the argument that a prop turning X RPM at Y density altitude will s ee no speed change even as there are drag reductions=C3=A2=82=AC=C2um c ounter-intuitive, but my high altitude tests up to 13,300=C3=A2=82=AC=84 =A2 with new cowl so far show no changes either. Of course, the problem wit h my high density altitude tests then are they are at =C3=A2=82=AC=C5=93f ull=C3=A2=82=AC=EF=BD engine power, I lean for highest RPM in a speed t est at higher altitudes. I don=C3=A2=82=AC=84=A2t imagine my engine i s doing its best with a cylinder being broken in (maybe) and running on mine ral oil. So there=C3=A2=82=AC=84=A2s power I=C3=A2=82=AC=84=A2m not getting yet. 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Date: May 25, 2012
From: flyv35b <flyv35b(at)minetfiber.com>
Subject: Re: Plugs leading up worse than normal
On 5/24/2012 10:33 PM, Gary L Vogt wrote: > --> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: Gary L Vogt > ANY throttle setting other than throttle closed at idle and the carb will NOT be operating on the idle circuit. Any checking of rpm rise without the throttle closed will give an artificially rich indication since the carb is operating on the transition circuit. > > Gary > Sent from my iPad Where is that documented? I think the idle circuit goes much higher than 650 rpm as I found out in the middle of Australia when flying a Tiger which had the idle circuit completely blocked with debris! Cliff ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Plugs leading up worse than normal
From: "bkspero" <bkspero(at)gmail.com>
Date: May 25, 2012
teamgrumman(at)yahoo.com wrote: > If I set the plugs, I set them to .018. > > Gary > Sent from my iPad > > On May 24, 2012, at 2:10 PM, "bkspero" wrote: > > No, these were installed by the other A&P that Alan tried. I will check the mixture as you described. Most of my hot adjustments of the mixture were during taxi where the throttle was set a little higher than idle. Sounds like that could explain why I am seeing >50 rpm increase on leaning even hot. Won't get to any of this stuff unless the weather here gets better though. Maybe tomorrow. Thanks again, all. Barry S(2) Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=373902#373902 ________________________________________________________________________________
From: Dan Schmitz <Dan.Schmitz(at)calix.com>
Subject: Inlet Plugs for Jaguar Cowl on a Tiger
Date: May 25, 2012
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Date: May 25, 2012
From: Gary Vogt <teamgrumman(at)yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: ElectroAir
Barry,=0A=0ABy, "away for awhile," are you referring to jail or rehab? =C2 -Either way, glad you're back. =C2-Missed all the comments.=0A=0AThe ce rtified EIS is totally different. =C2-Even the coil is different.=0A=0AGa ry=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0A From: FLYaDIVE <flyadive@gma il.com>=0ATo: teamgrumman-list(at)matronics.com =0ASent: Friday, May 25, 2012 2:34 AM=0ASubject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: ElectroAir=0A =0A=0AHi=0AGary:=0A =C2-=0AI=0Adon't want you to think I left you hanging out there, I was aw ay for a while.=0A=C2-=0AHere=0Aare pictures of the 'silver' box (aluminu m). =C2-The=0Anewer=C2-certified=C2-units must have changed to black. =C2- See picture # 001=0A=0A=0AAs=0AI mentioned, under the box are the tw o adjustments. =C2-But, before you go=0Athere look at the underside of th e box. =C2-=0AYou will notice two slots, one of=0Athe slots has a foam ru bber insert. =C2-=0AThis inset presses up against the=0Aadjustments and i s used to hold them from moving. =C2-See picture # 010 & 011=0A=0A=0AOn =0ASun, May 13, 2012 at 3:06 PM, Gary Vogt=C2-=C2 -wrote:=0ABarry,=0A=C2-=0A=C2-=0AThe unit that replaces the mag is si milar to the magnetic pickup=0Aon the cam (or crank) on cars. =C2-=0A =A2 Just like in a car, it begins it's timing sequence at 0 BTDC.=0A =A2 There is no adjustment inside any box. =C2-=0A=C2-=0A[Barry]=0A- See above - These are the adjustments. =C2-They are also called out in t he=0Amanual. See picture # 010 & 011=0A=C2-=0A=A2 There is nothing to rub or wear out. =C2-=0A[Barry]=0A=93 Well that is dependent on if you want to consider vibration on the adjustments.=C2-=C2-=0AAnd tha t is why the rubber presses against=0Athe two adjustment knobs.=C2- See p icture# 010 & 011=0A=C2-=0A=C2-=0A=A2 The only moving part is a 6 0 tooth wheel inside the unit used=0Ain place of right mag.=C2-=0A=C2- =0AThe DIS, just like in your car, requires that the engine go=0Athrough on e complete ignition sequence (2 revolutions) before it knows where it=0Ais. =0A=C2-=0AThe backfiring was due to this learning curve. =C2-Following =0Athe instructions in the install manual, there will be a toggle that turn s the=0Aunit off and on. =C2-=0A=A2 The coil is not in that loop. =C2-The coil stays hot.=0A=C2-Two circuit breakers. =C2-Two circuits. =0A=A2 You will not get a backfire unless you intentionally turn of =0Aboth left and right and then turn one or the other on.=0A=C2-=0AStarti ng is done on both mags since they are both at 0 BTDC.=0A=C2-=0AMag drop is tested by shutting off the Electroair with the=0Atoggle (this tests the left mag): =C2-80 rpm drop=0A=C2-=0AElectroair turned back on. =C2-No backfire.=0A=C2-=0ASwitch to Right Mag (this shorts the left mag and tes ts the=0AElectroair): =C2-No noticeable drop in rpm.=0A=C2-=0A[Barry] =0A- As stated, I have never tried starting on the EIS, since the RV6 has a n Impulse=C2-Mag.=0A=C2- Not my plane and the owner wants to start on =C2-Impulse=C2-so that=0Ais what I do. =C2-=0A=C2-=0AIf=0Ayou need a copy of the OLD (I call it old because it is for the original experimenta l=0Aversion) operations manual I have pictures. =C2-=0A=C2-=0ABarry ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: May 25, 2012
From: Gary Vogt <teamgrumman(at)yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Inlet Plugs for Jaguar Cowl on a Tiger
Huh? =C2-How can you tell if there is any difference if you are not full throttle? =C2-Unless you have manifold pressure, fuel flow, and an accura te OAT, you have no way of knowing what your power setting is.=0A=0AFlat ou t, WOT, 1000 feet, 2950 rpm, my plane's TAS is 159-160 knots.=0A=0A=0A_____ ___________________________=0A From: Dan Schmitz <Dan.Schmitz(at)calix.com>=0A nt: Friday, May 25, 2012 4:52 AM=0ASubject: RE: TeamGrumman-List: Inlet Plu gs for Jaguar Cowl on a Tiger=0A =0A=0A =0AIs that full throttle at sea lev el? =C2-I should say that my 138 knots was staying within the bounds of 7 5% power.=C2- If I did full power at 1000=C3=A2=82=AC=84=A2 I expec t I=C3=A2=82=AC=84=A2d be in the low 140s for sure.=C2- Don=C3=A2 =82=AC=84=A2t know how high.=0A=C2-=0ADan=0A=C2-=0AFrom:owner-tea mgrumman-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-teamgrumman-list-server@ma tronics.com] On Behalf Of Gary L Vogt=0ASent: Friday, May 25, 2012 1:46 AM =0ATo: teamgrumman-list(at)matronics.com=0ASubject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Inle t Plugs for Jaguar Cowl on a Tiger=0A=C2-=0AN3752W: 144 knots=0AN1976T: 1 45 knots=0AN28747: 148 knots=0A=C2-=0AIf your plane is not 140 knots, som ething is wrong. What prop are you turning?=0AGary=0ASent from my iPad=0A =0AOn May 24, 2012, at 1:10 PM, Dan Schmitz wrote: =0AMe too (wish I was closer).=C2- I=C3=A2=82=AC=84=A2ll be at Oshk osh for the AYA convention.=C2- Anyway what kind of speeds were you getti ng pre and post Jaguar?=C2- My best speeds both pre and post are 138 knot s.=C2- Did your other planes go from 133 to 138?=C2- I=C3=A2=82=AC =84=A2ve always been able to run a bit over 2700 RPM at 8000=C3=A2=82 =AC=84=A2 and that=C3=A2=82=AC=84=A2s with a 64=C3=A2=82=AC=EF =BD pitch sensenich.=C2- Right about 9000=C3=A2=82=AC=84=A2 DA i s where full throttle equals 2700 RPM (strobe checked, not tach), again bot h before and after the new cowl.=0A>=C2-=0A>Dan=0A>=C2-=0A>From:owner-t eamgrumman-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-teamgrumman-list-server@ matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gary Vogt=0A>Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2012 1:29 PM=0A>To: teamgrumman-list(at)matronics.com=0A>Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Inlet Plugs for Jaguar Cowl on a Tiger=0A>=C2-=0A>Well, Dan,=0A>=C2-=0A >On N3752W, the only change to the plane was the cowling. =C2-Right out o f the hangar it was 5 knots (TAS) faster than the stock cowling at altitude s between 1500 feet and 5500 feet and 2700 rpm. =C2-It was also easier to run past 2700 rpm at 8000 feet. =C2-So, I don't know what to tell you. =C2-=0A>=C2-=0A>When I installed the very first one on N119ST, it was 9 knots (TAS) faster. =C2-On my plane with a 65-63-61 prop, it was 10 knot s (TAS) faster. =C2-Both at 2700 rpm. =C2-My old cowling, however, didn 't fit well, was debonding and patched all over. =C2-=0A>=C2-=0A>I wish you were closer. =C2-=0A>=C2-=0A>Gary=0A>=C2-=0A>=0A>_______________ _________________=0A> =0A>From:Dan Schmitz =0A>To: " teamgrumman-list(at)matronics.com" =0A>Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2012 5:04 AM=0A>Subject: RE: TeamGrumman-List: Inlet Plug s for Jaguar Cowl on a Tiger=0A>=C2-=0A>If IAS is meaningless, then compu ting TAS off of IAS is a pointless exercise.=C2- I was comparing IAS of d ensity altitude to IAS of the same density altitude.=C2- The TAS calculat ions will work out to be the same in either case.=C2- Note that I complet ely ignored the IAS in a number of test runs where I simply used GPS ground speed in 3 directions to compute a TAS using some fun formulas.=C2- The numbers all come out to =C3=83=C2=A2=C3=A2=9A=C2=AC=C3=85=9Cno real change=C3=83=C2=A2=C3=A2=9A=C2=AC=C3=AF=C2=C2=BD.=0A>=C2- =0A>Now, by the argument that a prop turning X RPM at Y density altitude wi ll see no speed change even as there are drag reductions=C3=83=C2=A2=C3=A2 =9A=C2=AC=C3=82=C2um counter-intuitive, but my high altitude tests up to 13,300=C3=83=C2=A2=C3=A2=9A=C2=AC=C3=A2=9E=C2=A2 with ne w cowl so far show no changes either.=C2- Of course, the problem with my high density altitude tests then are they are at =C3=83=C2=A2=C3=A2 =9A=C2=AC=C3=85=9Cfull=C3=83=C2=A2=C3=A2=9A=C2=AC=C3=AF=C2 =C2=BDengine power, I lean for highest RPM in a speed test at higher altitu des.=C2- I don=C3=83=C2=A2=C3=A2=9A=C2=AC=C3=A2=9E=C2=A2t ima gine my engine is doing its best with a cylinder being broken in (maybe) an d running on mineral oil.=C2- So there=C3=83=C2=A2=C3=A2=9A=C2=AC =C3=A2=9E=C2=A2s power I=C3=83=C2=A2=C3=A2=9A=C2=AC=C3=A2 =9E=C2=A2m not getting yet.=C2- Do most Grummans see a 5 knot speedup aft er breaking in and switching to normal oil?=C2- =0A>=C2-=0A>Dan Schmitz =0A>Tiger 4518B=0A>KASH=0A>=C2-=0A=C2=C2=B7=BA~=B0=C3=AD =C2=B2,=C3=9Eg(=93=C5-=C3=93M4=C3=93G=C3=9Aq=C3=BC=C2=A2=C3=C3 =A2z=C2=B9=C3=9E=C3=81=C3=8A.=C2=AE'=C2=AB8^M=C3=C2=C2=BB=C2=84 =A2=C2=A9=C3=8B=C5-=C3=8BD=84=A2=C2=A8=C2=A5=C5-=C3=AE=EF=BD,z=C3 =98^1=C2=ABk=C2=A2x=C5=93=C2=B0=C2=B8=C2=AC=C2=B4W=C5=A1=C2=B6=C3=C3=9E =C2=B0=C3'=C2=AF=C5-=C2=AD=C2=A2=C2=BBhn=C2=BA0=C2=B1=C3=AD=C3 =A9=C5=A1=C5=B8"=C3=A2=C2=B2=C3=9B=C2=AD=C5-X=C2=AD=B0=C3=AB,=C2=B9 =C3=88Z=C2=B0=C2=B8=C2=AC=C2=B5I=C3J=C3=C3=ACr=C2=B8=C2=A9=C2=B6*' ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Inlet Plugs for Jaguar Cowl on a Tiger
From: n26390(at)AOL.COM
Date: May 25, 2012
2950 rpm (Seriously?) In an airplane (Seriously?) There's an STC for that (Seriously?) Lycoming engine (Seriously?) And parts aren't flying out of the engine (Seriously?) Seriously, Roger Rucker AA5A '78 HWO -----Original Message----- From: Gary Vogt <teamgrumman(at)yahoo.com> Sent: Fri, May 25, 2012 3:28 pm Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Inlet Plugs for Jaguar Cowl on a Tiger Huh? How can you tell if there is any difference if you are not full throt tle? Unless you have manifold pressure, fuel flow, and an accurate OAT, yo u have no way of knowing what your power setting is. Flat out, WOT, 1000 feet, 2950 rpm, my plane's TAS is 159-160 knots. From: Dan Schmitz <Dan.Schmitz(at)calix.com> Sent: Friday, May 25, 2012 4:52 AM Subject: RE: TeamGrumman-List: Inlet Plugs for Jaguar Cowl on a Tiger Is that full throttle at sea level? I should say that my 138 knots was sta ying within the bounds of 75% power. If I did full power at 1000=C3=A2 =82=AC=84=A2 I expect I=C3=A2=82=AC=84=A2d be in the low 140s for sure. Don=C3=A2=82=AC=84=A2t know how high. Dan From: owner-teamgrumman-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-teamgrumman -list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gary L Vogt Sent: Friday, May 25, 2012 1:46 AM Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Inlet Plugs for Jaguar Cowl on a Tiger N3752W: 144 knots N1976T: 145 knots N28747: 148 knots If your plane is not 140 knots, something is wrong. What prop are you turni ng? Gary Sent from my iPad On May 24, 2012, at 1:10 PM, Dan Schmitz wrote: Me too (wish I was closer). I=C3=A2=82=AC=84=A2ll be at Oshkosh for the AYA convention. Anyway what kind of speeds were you getting pre and po st Jaguar? My best speeds both pre and post are 138 knots. Did your other planes go from 133 to 138? I=C3=A2=82=AC=84=A2ve always been able t o run a bit over 2700 RPM at 8000=C3=A2=82=AC=84=A2 and that=C3=A2 =82=AC=84=A2s with a 64=C3=A2=82=AC=EF=BD pitch sensenich. Right about 9000=C3=A2=82=AC=84=A2 DA is where full throttle equals 2700 RP M (strobe checked, not tach), again both before and after the new cowl. Dan From: owner-teamgrumman-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-teamgrumman -list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gary Vogt Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2012 1:29 PM Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Inlet Plugs for Jaguar Cowl on a Tiger Well, Dan, On N3752W, the only change to the plane was the cowling. Right out of the hangar it was 5 knots (TAS) faster than the stock cowling at altitudes betw een 1500 feet and 5500 feet and 2700 rpm. It was also easier to run past 2 700 rpm at 8000 feet. So, I don't know what to tell you. When I installed the very first one on N119ST, it was 9 knots (TAS) faster. On my plane with a 65-63-61 prop, it was 10 knots (TAS) faster. Both at 2700 rpm. My old cowling, however, didn't fit well, was debonding and patc hed all over. I wish you were closer. Gary From: Dan Schmitz <Dan.Schmitz(at)calix.com> Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2012 5:04 AM Subject: RE: TeamGrumman-List: Inlet Plugs for Jaguar Cowl on a Tiger If IAS is meaningless, then computing TAS off of IAS is a pointless exercis e. I was comparing IAS of density altitude to IAS of the same density alti tude. The TAS calculations will work out to be the same in either case. N ote that I completely ignored the IAS in a number of test runs where I simp ly used GPS ground speed in 3 directions to compute a TAS using some fun fo rmulas. The numbers all come out to =C3=83=C2=A2=C3=A2=9A=C2=AC=C3 =85=9Cno real change=C3=83=C2=A2=C3=A2=9A=C2=AC=C3=AF=C2=C2 =BD. Now, by the argument that a prop turning X RPM at Y density altitude will s ee no speed change even as there are drag reductions=C3=83=C2=A2=C3=A2 =9A=C2=AC=C3=82=C2um counter-intuitive, but my high altitude tests up to 13,300=C3=83=C2=A2=C3=A2=9A=C2=AC=C3=A2=9E=C2=A2 with new c owl so far show no changes either. Of course, the problem with my high den sity altitude tests then are they are at =C3=83=C2=A2=C3=A2=9A=C2=AC =C3=85=9Cfull=C3=83=C2=A2=C3=A2=9A=C2=AC=C3=AF=C2=C2=BD engi ne power, I lean for highest RPM in a speed test at higher altitudes. I do n=C3=83=C2=A2=C3=A2=9A=C2=AC=C3=A2=9E=C2=A2t imagine my engine is doing its best with a cylinder being broken in (maybe) and running on mi neral oil. So there=C3=83=C2=A2=C3=A2=9A=C2=AC=C3=A2=9E=C2=A2s power I=C3=83=C2=A2=C3=A2=9A=C2=AC=C3=A2=9E=C2=A2m not getting yet. Do most Grummans see a 5 knot speedup after breaking in and switchin g to normal oil? Dan Schmitz Tiger 4518B KASH =C2=C2=B7=BA~=B0=C3=AD=C2=B2,=C3=9Eg(=93=C5-=C3=93M4 =C3=93G=C3=9Aq=C3=BC=C2=A2=C3=C3=A2z=C2=B9=C3=9E=C3=81=C3=8A.=C2=AE'=C2 =AB8^M=C3=C2=C2=BB=C2=84=A2=C2=A9=C3=8B=C5-=C3=8BD=84=A2 =C2=A8=C2=A5=C5-=C3=AE=EF=BD,z=C3=98^1=C2=ABk=C2=A2x=C5=93=C2=B0=C2=B8 =C2=AC=C2=B4W=C5=A1=C2=B6=C3=C3=9E=C2=B0=C3'=C2=AF=C5-=C2=AD=C2=A2 =C2=BBhn=C2=BA0=C2=B1=C3=AD=C3=A9=C5=A1=C5=B8"=C3=A2=C2=B2=C3=9B =C2=AD=C5-X=C2=AD=B0=C3=AB,=C2=B9=C3=88Z=C2=B0=C2=B8=C2=AC=C2=B5I =C3J=C3=C3=ACr=C2=B8=C2=A9=C2=B6*' -= - The TeamGrumman-List Email Forum - -= Use the Matronics List Features Navigator to browse -= the many List utilities such as List Un/Subscription, -= Archive Search & Download, 7-Day Browse, Chat, FAQ, -= Photoshare, and much much more: - -= --> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?TeamGrumman-List - -======================== -= - MATRONICS WEB FORUMS - -= Same great content also available via the Web Forums! - -= --> http://forums.matronics.com - -======================== -= - List Contribution Web Site - -= Thank you for your generous support! -= -Matt Dralle, List Admin. -= --> http://www.matronics.com/contribution -======================== ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: May 25, 2012
From: Gary Vogt <teamgrumman(at)yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Plugs leading up worse than normal
If the idle circuit is completely blocked with debris, as you say, then the engine is operating on the transition or main circuits. -You can complet ely close the mixture down and still make the engine run. -That tells you nothing. -You can even MAKE the engine idle with no flow from the idle c ircuit. -It will run on the rest of the carb.=0A=0AThere are three fuel d elivery circuits in a carb. -IDLE, Transition, and Main.=0A=0AIDLE: -No fuel flow through the main venturi. -No flow through the main jet(s). - All of the fuel flow comes from the idle circuit in the carb. -There is no jet which changes the amount of fuel delivered. -Fuel flow is adjus ted by the IDLE mixture screw. -The IDLE fuel delivery comes from a meter ed slot in the carb. -=0A=0ATransition: This is nothing more than an addi tional slot (or, sometimes, additional fuel to the IDLE slot) as the thrott le plate opens. -As the throttle plate opens further, manifold vacuum cau ses fuel to flow from the transition slot. -This is to cover up a lean co ndition as the throttle plate is opened and the IDLE circuit cannot supply enough fuel. -=0A=0AMain: -At some throttle plate position beyond trans ition, where the main venturi begins to flow fuel, the air-fuel mixture rat io is set by the main jet and the main venturi deliver system. -=0A=0A= ===============0AI have a customer, who shall r emain anonymous, who insists his mixture is too rich because he gets a 200 rpm rise when leaning at 1800 rpm from full rich. -He'll go home and fuck with the idle mixture crew after every annual. -And, every annual I have to reset the IDLE. -=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0A From: f lyv35b =0ATo: teamgrumman-list(at)matronics.com =0ASen t: Friday, May 25, 2012 5:52 AM=0ASubject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Re: Plugs flyv35b =0A=0AOn 5/24/2012 10:33 PM, Gary L Vogt wr ote:=0A> -->- TeamGrumman-List message posted by: Gary L Vogt@yahoo.com>=0A=0A> ANY throttle setting other than throttle closed at idle and the carb will NOT be operating on the idle circuit. Any checking of rpm rise without the throttle closed will give an artificially rich indication since the carb is operating on the transition circuit.=0A> =0A> Gary=0A> S ent from my iPad=0A=0AWhere is that documented?- I think the idle circuit goes much higher than 650 rpm as I found out in the middle of Australia wh en flying a Tiger which had the idle circuit completely blocked with debris ====================== ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: May 25, 2012
From: Gary Vogt <teamgrumman(at)yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Inlet Plugs for Jaguar Cowl on a Tiger
OK, I won't argue with you. =C2-You just have a slow plane. =C2-{smile} =0A=0A=0A________________________________=0A From: Dan Schmitz <Dan.Schmitz (at)calix.com>=0ATo: "teamgrumman-list(at)matronics.com" =0ASent: Friday, May 25, 2012 9:18 AM=0ASubject: RE: TeamGrumman-L ist: Inlet Plugs for Jaguar Cowl on a Tiger=0A =0A=0A =0ALook, if I take my wheel pants off and motor around at 2700 RPM, my plane is going to be seve ral knots slower.=C2- Then I reinstall my drag reducing wheel pants and 2 700 RPM gets me more speed.=C2- I=C3=A2=82=AC=84=A2ve done this, I know it=C3=A2=82=AC=84=A2s true.=C2- The cowl doesn=C3=A2=82=AC =84=A2t seem to have the same speed impact that wheel pants do.=C2- I like the cowl, it has great benefits, but apparently, for me at least, crui se speed benefits are not part of the mix.=0A=C2-=0ADan=0A=C2-=0AFrom:o wner-teamgrumman-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-teamgrumman-list-s erver(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of 923TE=0ASent: Friday, May 25, 2012 8:45 A M=0ATo: teamgrumman-list(at)matronics.com=0ASubject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Inl et Plugs for Jaguar Cowl on a Tiger=0A=C2-=0ADan the only way to get good results is at wide open throttle. You have no way of positively identifyin g when you are at 75% power in any consistent way. So if your "flight testi ng" was not done at wide open throttle and at the same best power setting t hen your data has no use in a pre - post Jaguar speed comparison. Calculate d results just don't cut it.=0A=C2-=0AWhen I change direction I fly for a minimum of 10 minutes on that new heading before I am confident that I am seeing a stabilized air speed. Flight testing is not really that easy to pe rform.=0A=0AOn May 25, 2012, at 6:52 AM, Dan Schmitz wrote:=0AIs that full throttle at sea level? =C2-I should say that my 1 38 knots was staying within the bounds of 75% power.=C2- If I did full po wer at 1000=C3=A2=82=AC=84=A2 I expect I=C3=A2=82=AC=84=A2d be in the low 140s for sure.=C2- Don=C3=A2=82=AC=84=A2t know how high. =0A>=C2-=0A>Dan=0A>=C2-=0A>From:owner-teamgrumman-list-server@matronics .com [mailto:owner-teamgrumman-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gary L Vogt=0A>Sent: Friday, May 25, 2012 1:46 AM=0A>To: teamgrumman-list@matro nics.com=0A>Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Inlet Plugs for Jaguar Cowl on a Tiger=0A>=C2-=0A>N3752W: 144 knots=0A>N1976T: 145 knots=0A>N28747: 148 k nots=0A>=C2-=0A>If your plane is not 140 knots, something is wrong. What prop are you turning?=0A>Gary=0A>Sent from my iPad=0A>=0A>On May 24, 2012, at 1:10 PM, Dan Schmitz wrote:=0A>Me too (wish I wa s closer).=C2- I=C3=A2=82=AC=84=A2ll be at Oshkosh for the AYA conv ention.=C2- Anyway what kind of speeds were you getting pre and post Jagu ar?=C2- My best speeds both pre and post are 138 knots.=C2- Did your ot her planes go from 133 to 138?=C2- I=C3=A2=82=AC=84=A2ve always bee n able to run a bit over 2700 RPM at 8000=C3=A2=82=AC=84=A2 and that =C3=A2=82=AC=84=A2s with a 64=C3=A2=82=AC=EF=BD pitch sensenich .=C2- Right about 9000=C3=A2=82=AC=84=A2 DA is where full throttle equals 2700 RPM (strobe checked, not tach), again both before and after the new cowl.=0A>>=C2-=0A>>Dan=0A>>=C2-=0A>>From:owner-teamgrumman-list-se rver(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-teamgrumman-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gary Vogt=0A>>Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2012 1:29 PM=0A>>To: teamgr umman-list(at)matronics.com=0A>>Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Inlet Plugs for Jaguar Cowl on a Tiger=0A>>=C2-=0A>>Well, Dan,=0A>>=C2-=0A>>On N3752W, the only change to the plane was the cowling. =C2-Right out of the hanga r it was 5 knots (TAS) faster than the stock cowling at altitudes between 1 500 feet and 5500 feet and 2700 rpm. =C2-It was also easier to run past 2 700 rpm at 8000 feet. =C2-So, I don't know what to tell you. =C2-=0A>> =C2-=0A>>When I installed the very first one on N119ST, it was 9 knots (T AS) faster. =C2-On my plane with a 65-63-61 prop, it was 10 knots (TAS) f aster. =C2-Both at 2700 rpm. =C2-My old cowling, however, didn't fit we ll, was debonding and patched all over. =C2-=0A>>=C2-=0A>>I wish you we re closer. =C2-=0A>>=C2-=0A>>Gary=0A>>=C2-=0A>>=0A>>_________________ _______________=0A>> =0A>>From:Dan Schmitz =0A>>To: "teamgrumman-list(at)matronics.com" =0A>>Sent : Thursday, May 24, 2012 5:04 AM=0A>>Subject: RE: TeamGrumman-List: Inlet P lugs for Jaguar Cowl on a Tiger=0A>>=C2-=0A>>If IAS is meaningless, then computing TAS off of IAS is a pointless exercise.=C2- I was comparing IAS of density altitude to IAS of the same density altitude.=C2- The TAS cal culations will work out to be the same in either case.=C2- Note that I co mpletely ignored the IAS in a number of test runs where I simply used GPS g round speed in 3 directions to compute a TAS using some fun formulas.=C2- The numbers all come out to =C3=83=C2=A2=C3=A2=9A=C2=AC=C3=85 =9Cno real change=C3=83=C2=A2=C3=A2=9A=C2=AC=C3=AF=C2=C2=BD.=0A>> =C2-=0A>>Now, by the argument that a prop turning X RPM at Y density alti tude will see no speed change even as there are drag reductions=C3=83=C2=A2 =C3=A2=9A=C2=AC=C3=82=C2um counter-intuitive, but my high altitude tests up to 13,300=C3=83=C2=A2=C3=A2=9A=C2=AC=C3=A2=9E=C2=A2 w ith new cowl so far show no changes either.=C2- Of course, the problem wi th my high density altitude tests then are they are at =C3=83=C2=A2=C3=A2 =9A=C2=AC=C3=85=9Cfull=C3=83=C2=A2=C3=A2=9A=C2=AC=C3=AF =C2=C2=BDengine power, I lean for highest 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Date: May 25, 2012
From: Gary Vogt <teamgrumman(at)yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Inlet Plugs for Jaguar Cowl on a Tiger
I ran my O320 to 3150 rpm.=0A=0AValve float starts at 3400 so stay below th at.=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0A From: "n26390(at)aol.com" <n26 390(at)aol.com>=0ATo: teamgrumman-list(at)matronics.com =0ASent: Friday, May 25, 2012 12:44 PM=0ASubject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Inlet Plugs for Jaguar Cowl on a Tiger=0A =0A=0A2950 rpm (Seriously?)=C2- In an airplane (Seriously?) =C2- There's an STC for that (Seriously?)=C2- Lycoming engine (Seriousl y?)=C2- And parts aren't flying out of the engine (Seriously?)=0ASeriousl y,=0A=0ARoger Rucker =0AAA5A '78 HWO=0A=0A=0A-----Original Message-----=0AF rom: Gary Vogt =0ATo: teamgrumman-list =0ASent: Fri, May 25, 2012 3:28 pm=0ASubject: Re: TeamGr umman-List: Inlet Plugs for Jaguar Cowl on a Tiger=0A=0A=0AHuh? =C2-How c an you tell if there is any difference if you are not full throttle? =C2- Unless you have manifold pressure, fuel flow, and an accurate OAT, you have no way of knowing what your power setting is.=0A=0AFlat out, WOT, 1000 fee t, 2950 rpm, my plane's TAS is 159-160 knots.=0A=0A=0A_____________________ ___________=0A From: Dan Schmitz <Dan.Schmitz(at)calix.com>=0ATo: "teamgrumman -list(at)matronics.com" =0ASent: Friday, May 25, 2012 4:52 AM=0ASubject: RE: TeamGrumman-List: Inlet Plugs for Jaguar Co wl on a Tiger=0A=0A=0A =0AIs that full throttle at sea level? =C2-I shoul d say that my 138 knots was staying within the bounds of 75% power.=C2- I f I did full power at 1000=C3=A2=82=AC=84=A2 I expect I=C3=A2=82 =AC=84=A2d be in the low 140s for sure.=C2- Don=C3=A2=82=AC=84 =A2t know how high.=0A=C2-=0ADan=0A=C2-=0AFrom:owner-teamgrumman-list-s erver(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-teamgrumman-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gary L Vogt=0ASent: Friday, May 25, 2012 1:46 AM=0ATo: teamgrumm an-list(at)matronics.com=0ASubject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Inlet Plugs for Jagu ar Cowl on a Tiger=0A=C2-=0AN3752W: 144 knots=0AN1976T: 145 knots=0AN2874 7: 148 knots=0A=C2-=0AIf your plane is not 140 knots, something is wrong. What prop are you turning?=0AGary=0ASent from my iPad=0A=0AOn May 24, 2012 , at 1:10 PM, Dan Schmitz wrote:=0AMe too (wish I w as closer).=C2- I=C3=A2=82=AC=84=A2ll be at Oshkosh for the AYA con vention.=C2- Anyway what kind of speeds were you getting pre and post Jag uar?=C2- My best speeds both pre and post are 138 knots.=C2- Did your o ther planes go from 133 to 138?=C2- I=C3=A2=82=AC=84=A2ve always be en able to run a bit over 2700 RPM at 8000=C3=A2=82=AC=84=A2 and that =C3=A2=82=AC=84=A2s with a 64=C3=A2=82=AC=EF=BD pitch sensenich .=C2- Right about 9000=C3=A2=82=AC=84=A2 DA is where full throttle equals 2700 RPM (strobe checked, not tach), again both before and after the new cowl.=0A>=C2-=0A>Dan=0A>=C2-=0A>From:owner-teamgrumman-list-server (at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-teamgrumman-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Beha lf Of Gary Vogt=0A>Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2012 1:29 PM=0A>To: teamgrumman- list(at)matronics.com=0A>Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Inlet Plugs for Jaguar Cowl on a Tiger=0A>=C2-=0A>Well, Dan,=0A>=C2-=0A>On N3752W, the only c hange to the plane was the cowling. =C2-Right out of the hangar it was 5 knots (TAS) faster than the stock cowling at altitudes between 1500 feet an d 5500 feet and 2700 rpm. =C2-It was also easier to run past 2700 rpm at 8000 feet. =C2-So, I don't know what to tell you. =C2-=0A>=C2-=0A>Whe n I installed the very first one on N119ST, it was 9 knots (TAS) faster. =C2-On my plane with a 65-63-61 prop, it was 10 knots (TAS) faster. =C2 -Both at 2700 rpm. =C2-My old cowling, however, didn't fit well, was de bonding and patched all over. =C2-=0A>=C2-=0A>I wish you were closer. =C2-=0A>=C2-=0A>Gary=0A>=C2-=0A>=0A>________________________________ =0A> =0A>From:Dan Schmitz =0A>To: "teamgrumman-list@ matronics.com" =0A>Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2012 5:04 AM=0A>Subject: RE: TeamGrumman-List: Inlet Plugs for Jaguar Cowl on a Tiger=0A>=C2-=0A>If IAS is meaningless, then computing TAS off of I AS is a pointless exercise.=C2- I was comparing IAS of density altitude t o IAS of the same density altitude.=C2- The TAS calculations will work ou t to be the same in either case.=C2- Note that I completely ignored the I AS in a number of test runs where I simply used GPS ground speed in 3 direc tions to compute a TAS using some fun formulas.=C2- The numbers all come out to =C3=83=C2=A2=C3=A2=9A=C2=AC=C3=85=9Cno real change=C3=83 =C2=A2=C3=A2=9A=C2=AC=C3=AF=C2=C2=BD.=0A>=C2-=0A>Now, by the arg ument that a prop turning X RPM at Y density altitude will see no speed cha nge even as there are drag reductions=C3=83=C2=A2=C3=A2=9A=C2=AC=C3 =82=C2um counter-intuitive, but my high altitude tests up to 13,300=C3 =83=C2=A2=C3=A2=9A=C2=AC=C3=A2=9E=C2=A2 with new cowl so far sh ow no changes either.=C2- Of course, the problem with my high density alt itude tests then are they are at =C3=83=C2=A2=C3=A2=9A=C2=AC=C3=85 =9Cfull=C3=83=C2=A2=C3=A2=9A=C2=AC=C3=AF=C2=C2=BDengine power, I lean for highest RPM in a speed test at higher altitudes.=C2- I don=C3 =83=C2=A2=C3=A2=9A=C2=AC=C3=A2=9E=C2=A2t imagine my engine is d oing its best with a cylinder being broken in (maybe) and running on minera l oil.=C2- So there=C3=83=C2=A2=C3=A2=9A=C2=AC=C3=A2=9E=C2=A2 s power I=C3=83=C2=A2=C3=A2=9A=C2=AC=C3=A2=9E=C2=A2m not gettin g yet.=C2- Do most Grummans see a 5 knot speedup after breaking in and sw itching to normal oil?=C2- =0A>=C2-=0A>Dan Schmitz=0A>Tiger 4518B=0A>KA SH=0A>=C2-=0A=C2=C2=B7=BA~=B0=C3=AD=C2=B2,=C3=9Eg( =93=C5-=C3=93M4=C3=93G=C3=9Aq=C3=BC=C2=A2=C3=C3=A2z=C2=B9=C3=9E=C3=81 =C3=8A.=C2=AE'=C2=AB8^M=C3=C2=C2=BB=C2=84=A2=C2=A9=C3=8B=C5- =C3=8BD=84=A2=C2=A8=C2=A5=C5-=C3=AE=EF=BD,z=C3=98^1=C2=ABk=C2=A2x =C5=93=C2=B0=C2=B8=C2=AC=C2=B4W=C5=A1=C2=B6=C3=C3=9E=C2=B0=C3'=C2=AF =C5-=C2=AD=C2=A2=C2=BBhn=C2=BA0=C2=B1=C3=AD=C3=A9=C5=A1=C5=B8" =C3=A2=C2=B2=C3=9B=C2=AD=C5-X=C2=AD=B0=C3=AB,=C2=B9=C3=88Z=C2=B0=C2 =B8=C2=AC=C2=B5I=C3J=C3=C3=ACr=C2=B8=C2=A9=C2=B6*'=0A=0A=0Ast" target =_blank>http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?TeamGrumman-List=0Ap://forums. ============= ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: May 25, 2012
Subject: Re: Inlet Plugs for Jaguar Cowl on a Tiger
From: Bob Steward <n76lima(at)mindspring.com>
Some of the AYA air racers turn 3,000+ RPM. The engine is not the worry, it is the PROP! Some have a tendency to throw a few inches off the tip, which is enough to rip the engine off the mount from the imbalance. Just one more reason I don't fly in those planes... --Bob Steward n26390(at)AOL.COM wrote: >2950 rpm (Seriously?) In an airplane (Seriously?) There's an STC for that (Seriously?) Lycoming engine (Seriously?) And parts aren't flying out of the engine (Seriously?) >Seriously, > >Roger Rucker >AA5A '78 HWO > > >-----Original Message----- >From: Gary Vogt <teamgrumman(at)yahoo.com> >To: teamgrumman-list >Sent: Fri, May 25, 2012 3:28 pm >Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Inlet Plugs for Jaguar Cowl on a Tiger > > >Huh? How can you tell if there is any difference if you are not full throttle? Unless you have manifold pressure, fuel flow, and an accurate OAT, you have no way of knowing what your power setting is. > > >Flat out, WOT, 1000 feet, 2950 rpm, my plane's TAS is 159-160 knots. > > >From: Dan Schmitz <Dan.Schmitz(at)calix.com> >To: "teamgrumman-list(at)matronics.com" >Sent: Friday, May 25, 2012 4:52 AM >Subject: RE: TeamGrumman-List: Inlet Plugs for Jaguar Cowl on a Tiger > > >Is that full throttle at sea level? I should say that my 138 knots was staying within the bounds of 75% power. If I did full power at 1000 I expect Id be in the low 140s for sure. Dont know how high. > >Dan > > > >From: owner-teamgrumman-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-teamgrumman-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gary L Vogt >Sent: Friday, May 25, 2012 1:46 AM >To: teamgrumman-list(at)matronics.com >Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Inlet Plugs for Jaguar Cowl on a Tiger > > > >N3752W: 144 knots > >N1976T: 145 knots > >N28747: 148 knots > > > >If your plane is not 140 knots, something is wrong. What prop are you turning? > >Gary > >Sent from my iPad > > >On May 24, 2012, at 1:10 PM, Dan Schmitz wrote: > > >Me too (wish I was closer). Ill be at Oshkosh for the AYA convention. Anyway what kind of speeds were you getting pre and post Jaguar? My best speeds both pre and post are 138 knots. Did your other planes go from 133 to 138? Ive always been able to run a bit over 2700 RPM at 8000 and thats with a 64 pitch sensenich. Right about 9000 DA is where full throttle equals 2700 RPM (strobe checked, not tach), again both before and after the new cowl. > >Dan > > > >From: owner-teamgrumman-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-teamgrumman-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gary Vogt >Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2012 1:29 PM >To: teamgrumman-list(at)matronics.com >Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Inlet Plugs for Jaguar Cowl on a Tiger > > > >Well, Dan, > > > >On N3752W, the only change to the plane was the cowling. Right out of the hangar it was 5 knots (TAS) faster than the stock cowling at altitudes between 1500 feet and 5500 feet and 2700 rpm. It was also easier to run past 2700 rpm at 8000 feet. So, I don't know what to tell you. > > > >When I installed the very first one on N119ST, it was 9 knots (TAS) faster. On my plane with a 65-63-61 prop, it was 10 knots (TAS) faster. Both at 2700 rpm. My old cowling, however, didn't fit well, was debonding and patched all over. > > > >I wish you were closer. > > > >Gary > > > > >From: Dan Schmitz <Dan.Schmitz(at)calix.com> >To: "teamgrumman-list(at)matronics.com" >Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2012 5:04 AM >Subject: RE: TeamGrumman-List: Inlet Plugs for Jaguar Cowl on a Tiger > > > > >If IAS is meaningless, then computing TAS off of IAS is a pointless exercise. I was comparing IAS of density altitude to IAS of the same density altitude. The TAS calculations will work out to be the same in either case. Note that I completely ignored the IAS in a number of test runs where I simply used GPS ground speed in 3 directions to compute a TAS using some fun formulas. The numbers all come out to no real change. > > > >Now, by the argument that a prop turning X RPM at Y density altitude will see no speed change even as there are drag reductionsum counter-intuitive, but my high altitude tests up to 13,300 with new cowl so far show no changes either. Of course, the problem with my high density altitude tests then are they are at full engine power, I lean for highest RPM in a speed test at higher altitudes. I dont imagine my engine is doing its best with a cylinder being broken in (maybe) and running on mineral oil. So theres power Im not getting yet. Do most Grummans see a 5 knot speedup after breaking in and switching to normal oil? > > > >Dan Schmitz > >Tiger 4518B > >KASH > > > > >~,g(M4Gqz.'8^MD,z^1kxWhn0"X,ZIJr*' > > >-= - The TeamGrumman-List Email Forum - >-= Use the Matronics List Features Navigator to browse >-= the many List utilities such as List Un/Subscription, >-= Archive Search & Download, 7-Day Browse, Chat, FAQ, >-= Photoshare, and much much more: >- >-= --> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?TeamGrumman-List >- >-========================-= - MATRONICS WEB FORUMS - >-= Same great content also available via the Web Forums! >- >-= --> http://forums.matronics.com >- >-========================-= - List Contribution Web Site - >-= Thank you for your generous support! >-= -Matt Dralle, List Admin. >-= --> http://www.matronics.com/contribution >-======================= ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Improve fit of upper cowl
From: "bkspero" <bkspero(at)gmail.com>
Date: May 25, 2012
I warned you that I had lots of questions. My next one relates to the alignment of the upper cowl to the nose bowl and the fuselage at the base of the windscreen. On my Tiger there are gaps where the upper cowl is between about 3/8 inch and 5/8 inch higher than the nosebowl (at the front of the cowl) and the fuselage at the base of the windscreen (at the rear of the cowl). The gaps are at the bend where the upper cowl curves down from the horizontal to the vertical. You can see what I mean in the attached photos (if I've been successful in attaching them). The right front is ok. But the left front and both rear joints show the gaps. It's as if the bottom edge of the upper cowl can't go down far enough to allow it to fit tightly enough. As you can see, the cowling is cracking at the bends. What do I need to do to eliminate the gaps and get the upper cowl to align better with the nosebowl and fuselage? By the way, the lower cowl seems to fit and align well with the fuselage. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=373968#373968 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/right_front_cowling_657.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/right_rear_cowling_193.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/left_rear_cowling_493.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/left_front_cowling_980.jpg ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: May 25, 2012
From: Gary Vogt <teamgrumman(at)yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Improve fit of upper cowl
you'll have to send pictures. -It's impossible for the upper cowling to b e off 5/8 inches and still close.=0A=0A=0A________________________________ =0A From: bkspero <bkspero(at)gmail.com>=0ATo: teamgrumman-list(at)matronics.com =0ASent: Friday, May 25, 2012 7:17 PM=0ASubject: TeamGrumman-List: Improve bkspero(at)gmail.com>=0A=0AI warned you that I had lots of questions.- My ne xt one relates to the alignment of the upper cowl to the nose bowl and the fuselage at the base of the windscreen.- On my Tiger there are gaps where the upper cowl is between about 3/8 inch and 5/8 inch higher than the nose bowl (at the front of the cowl) and the fuselage at the base of the windscr een (at the rear of the cowl).- The gaps are at the bend where the upper cowl curves down from the horizontal to the vertical.=0A=0AYou can see what I mean in the attached photos (if I've been successful in attaching them). - The right front is ok.- But the left front and both rear joints show the gaps.- It's as if the bottom edge of the upper cowl can't go down far enough to allow it to fit tightly enough.- As you can see, the cowling i s cracking at the bends.=0A=0AWhat do I need to do to eliminate the gaps an d get the upper cowl to align better with the nosebowl and fuselage?- By the way, the lower cowl seems to fit and align well with the fuselage.=0A =0A=0A=0A=0ARead this topic online here:=0A=0Ahttp://forums.matronics.com/v iewtopic.php?p=373968#373968=0A=0A=0A=0A=0AAttachments: =0A=0Ahttp://foru ms.matronics.com//files/right_front_cowling_657.jpg=0Ahttp://forums.matroni cs.com//files/right_rear_cowling_193.jpg=0Ahttp://forums.matronics.com//fil es/left_rear_cowling_493.jpg=0Ahttp://forums.matronics.com//files/left_fron - - - - - - - - - - - - -Matt Dralle, List Admin. ==== ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Improve fit of upper cowl
From: "bkspero" <bkspero(at)gmail.com>
Date: May 25, 2012
Gary, I did post photos. They show up in the webmail listing so I'm not sure why you didn't get them. Try this link: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?t=90423 teamgrumman(at)yahoo.com wrote: > you'll have to send pictures. It's impossible for the upper cowling to be off 5/8 inches and still close. > Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=373976#373976 ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Improve fit of upper cowl
From: Gary L Vogt <teamgrumman(at)yahoo.com>
Date: May 25, 2012
I see the pics. Was it always like that? The only real solution is to buy a Jaguar cowling. Gary Sent from my iPad On May 25, 2012, at 7:17 PM, "bkspero" wrote: > > I warned you that I had lots of questions. My next one relates to the alignment of the upper cowl to the nose bowl and the fuselage at the base of the windscreen. On my Tiger there are gaps where the upper cowl is between about 3/8 inch and 5/8 inch higher than the nosebowl (at the front of the cowl) and the fuselage at the base of the windscreen (at the rear of the cowl). The gaps are at the bend where the upper cowl curves down from the horizontal to the vertical. > > You can see what I mean in the attached photos (if I've been successful in attaching them). The right front is ok. But the left front and both rear joints show the gaps. It's as if the bottom edge of the upper cowl can't go down far enough to allow it to fit tightly enough. As you can see, the cowling is cracking at the bends. > > What do I need to do to eliminate the gaps and get the upper cowl to align better with the nosebowl and fuselage? By the way, the lower cowl seems to fit and align well with the fuselage. > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=373968#373968 > > > > > Attachments: > > http://forums.matronics.com//files/right_front_cowling_657.jpg > http://forums.matronics.com//files/right_rear_cowling_193.jpg > http://forums.matronics.com//files/left_rear_cowling_493.jpg > http://forums.matronics.com//files/left_front_cowling_980.jpg > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Jaguar cowling
From: Gary L Vogt <teamgrumman(at)yahoo.com>
Date: May 25, 2012
Is there any interest in a pre-fitted Jaguar cowling? I could sell the cowlings pre-fitted using my plane as the reference. I'd have to adjust the price to compensate for the time invested in pre fitting the cowling. I estimate the cost of a 'ready to install' cowling to be $11,000. It would lstill need to be sanded and painted. Gary Sent from my iPad ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Improve fit of upper cowl
From: Gary L Vogt <teamgrumman(at)yahoo.com>
Date: May 25, 2012
I got them. I see what your talking about. It looks like the cowling is damaged . . . Doubler may have broken at the corners allowing the cowling to deform. Gary Sent from my iPad On May 25, 2012, at 8:40 PM, "bkspero" wrote: > > Gary, I did post photos. They show up in the webmail listing so I'm not sure why you didn't get them. > > Try this link: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?t=90423 > > > teamgrumman(at)yahoo.com wrote: >> you'll have to send pictures. It's impossible for the upper cowling to be off 5/8 inches and still close. >> > > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=373976#373976 > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Inlet Plugs for Jaguar Cowl on a Tiger
From: 923TE <923te(at)att.net>
Date: May 25, 2012
If you want to maintain a constant RPM before and after drag reduction then y our throttle would be less open in the less drag configuration. That's why y ou must have exactly the same throttle position to have a meaningful compari son of speeds On May 25, 2012, at 11:18 AM, Dan Schmitz wrote: > Look, if I take my wheel pants off and motor around at 2700 RPM, my plane i s going to be several knots slower. Then I reinstall my drag reducing wheel pants and 2700 RPM gets me more speed. I=99ve done this, I know it =99s true. The cowl doesn=99t seem to have the same speed impact t hat wheel pants do. I like the cowl, it has great benefits, but apparently, for me at least, cruise speed benefits are not part of the mix. > > Dan > > From: owner-teamgrumman-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-teamgrumma n-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of 923TE > Sent: Friday, May 25, 2012 8:45 AM > To: teamgrumman-list(at)matronics.com > Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Inlet Plugs for Jaguar Cowl on a Tiger > > Dan the only way to get good results is at wide open throttle. You have no way of positively identifying when you are at 75% power in any consistent w ay. So if your "flight testing" was not done at wide open throttle and at th e same best power setting then your data has no use in a pre - post Jaguar s peed comparison. Calculated results just don't cut it. > > When I change direction I fly for a minimum of 10 minutes on that new head ing before I am confident that I am seeing a stabilized air speed. Flight te sting is not really that easy to perform. > > On May 25, 2012, at 6:52 AM, Dan Schmitz wrote: > > Is that full throttle at sea level? I should say that my 138 knots was st aying within the bounds of 75% power. If I did full power at 1000=99 I expect I=99d be in the low 140s for sure. Don=99t know how hig h. > > Dan > > From: owner-teamgrumman-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-teamgrumma n-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gary L Vogt > Sent: Friday, May 25, 2012 1:46 AM > To: teamgrumman-list(at)matronics.com > Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Inlet Plugs for Jaguar Cowl on a Tiger > > N3752W: 144 knots > N1976T: 145 knots > N28747: 148 knots > > If your plane is not 140 knots, something is wrong. What prop are you turn ing? > > Gary > Sent from my iPad > > On May 24, 2012, at 1:10 PM, Dan Schmitz wrote: > > Me too (wish I was closer). I=99ll be at Oshkosh for the AYA conven tion. Anyway what kind of speeds were you getting pre and post Jaguar? My b est speeds both pre and post are 138 knots. Did your other planes go from 1 33 to 138? I=99ve always been able to run a bit over 2700 RPM at 8000 =99 and that=99s with a 64=9D pitch sensenich. Right abou t 9000=99 DA is where full throttle equals 2700 RPM (strobe checked, n ot tach), again both before and after the new cowl. > > Dan > > From: owner-teamgrumman-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-teamgrumma n-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gary Vogt > Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2012 1:29 PM > To: teamgrumman-list(at)matronics.com > Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Inlet Plugs for Jaguar Cowl on a Tiger > > Well, Dan, > > On N3752W, the only change to the plane was the cowling. Right out of the hangar it was 5 knots (TAS) faster than the stock cowling at altitudes betw een 1500 feet and 5500 feet and 2700 rpm. It was also easier to run past 27 00 rpm at 8000 feet. So, I don't know what to tell you. > > When I installed the very first one on N119ST, it was 9 knots (TAS) faster . On my plane with a 65-63-61 prop, it was 10 knots (TAS) faster. Both at 2 700 rpm. My old cowling, however, didn't fit well, was debonding and patche d all over. > > I wish you were closer. > > Gary > > From: Dan Schmitz <Dan.Schmitz(at)calix.com> > To: "teamgrumman-list(at)matronics.com" > Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2012 5:04 AM > Subject: RE: TeamGrumman-List: Inlet Plugs for Jaguar Cowl on a Tiger > > If IAS is meaningless, then computing TAS off of IAS is a pointless exerci se. I was comparing IAS of density altitude to IAS of the same density alti tude. The TAS calculations will work out to be the same in either case. No te that I completely ignored the IAS in a number of test runs where I simply used GPS ground speed in 3 directions to compute a TAS using some fun formu las. The numbers all come out to =C3=A2=82=AC=C5=93no real change=C3=A2 =82=AC=EF=BD. > > Now, by the argument that a prop turning X RPM at Y density altitude will s ee no speed change even as there are drag reductions=C3=A2=82=AC=C2um c ounter-intuitive, but my high altitude tests up to 13,300=C3=A2=82=AC=84 =A2 with new cowl so far show no changes either. Of course, the problem wit h my high density altitude tests then are they are at =C3=A2=82=AC=C5=93f ull=C3=A2=82=AC=EF=BD engine power, I lean for highest RPM in a speed t est at higher altitudes. I don=C3=A2=82=AC=84=A2t imagine my engine i s doing its best with a cylinder being broken in (maybe) and running on mine ral oil. So there=C3=A2=82=AC=84=A2s power I=C3=A2=82=AC=84=A2m not getting yet. 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Subject: Re: Improve fit of upper cowl
From: "gketell" <greg(at)ketell.com>
Date: May 25, 2012
You can definitely see cracks in the cowl at the top of the curve of each "high point". Can you take/post pictures of the inside of the cowl? Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=373985#373985 ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Jaguar cowling
From: "gketell" <greg(at)ketell.com>
Date: May 25, 2012
Ok, I know I don't carry much weight anymore since I don't have a Tiger any more but here is my thoughts.... Having read about the "individual" nature of each Tiger coming out of the various factories as well as having read about the different "required fitting procedures" of each existing Jaguar cowl, I would think a "pre-fitted" cowl wouldn't be pre-fitted except to the plane it was fitted on. Having it pre-cut to one plane could just make it useless/ugly on a different plane. Just my .02. GK Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=373986#373986 ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Jaguar cowling
From: Gary L Vogt <teamgrumman(at)yahoo.com>
Date: May 25, 2012
Well, in theory, the stock cowling can be interchanged between planes. Other than fitting the engine thrust angle to match theyd all be exactly the same. Gary Sent from my iPad On May 25, 2012, at 9:55 PM, "gketell" wrote: > > Ok, I know I don't carry much weight anymore since I don't have a Tiger any more but here is my thoughts.... > > Having read about the "individual" nature of each Tiger coming out of the various factories as well as having read about the different "required fitting procedures" of each existing Jaguar cowl, I would think a "pre-fitted" cowl wouldn't be pre-fitted except to the plane it was fitted on. Having it pre-cut to one plane could just make it useless/ugly on a different plane. > > Just my .02. > GK > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=373986#373986 > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Jaguar cowling
From: 923TE <923te(at)att.net>
Date: May 26, 2012
While reworking my Jaguar cowl I used a firewall from a 70's model Tiger/Cheetah. I then took the cowl from my garage to my hanger and put it on my 2000's Tiger with a perfect fit and all the factory screw holes matched exactly. The only difference particular to my Tiger was length needed increased. Probably mostly because of the MT spinner being shorter than the factory spinner The biggest variable might be the seemingly unrepeatability of the factory cowls alignment. If they were all still as they left the factory in the 70's then pre fitting should work fine On May 26, 2012, at 12:07 AM, Gary L Vogt wrote: > > Well, in theory, the stock cowling can be interchanged between planes. Other than fitting the engine thrust angle to match theyd all be exactly the same. > > Gary > Sent from my iPad > > On May 25, 2012, at 9:55 PM, "gketell" wrote: > >> >> Ok, I know I don't carry much weight anymore since I don't have a Tiger any more but here is my thoughts.... >> >> Having read about the "individual" nature of each Tiger coming out of the various factories as well as having read about the different "required fitting procedures" of each existing Jaguar cowl, I would think a "pre-fitted" cowl wouldn't be pre-fitted except to the plane it was fitted on. Having it pre-cut to one plane could just make it useless/ugly on a different plane. >> >> Just my .02. >> GK >> >> >> >> >> Read this topic online here: >> >> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=373986#373986 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Inlet Plugs for Jaguar Cowl on a Tiger
From: 923TE <923te(at)att.net>
Date: May 26, 2012
Some of the Benefits of the MT prop when racing are: it's certified for 225 H P at 2800 rpm and 300 HP at 2700 RPM it has a smaller diameter than the fixe d pitch Tiger prop so tip speeds are slower and it causes less fuel burn for a given speed than the fixed pitch prop. Since its blade weighs less than t he metal blade a broken tip would have less affect and perhaps not be the di saster a metal tip break On May 25, 2012, at 5:46 PM, Bob Steward wrote: m> > > Some of the AYA air racers turn 3,000+ RPM. The engine is not the worry, i t is the PROP! Some have a tendency to throw a few inches off the tip, whic h is enough to rip the engine off the mount from the imbalance. > Just one more reason I don't fly in those planes... > --Bob Steward > > > n26390(at)AOL.COM wrote: > >> 2950 rpm (Seriously?) In an airplane (Seriously?) There's an STC for th at (Seriously?) Lycoming engine (Seriously?) And parts aren't flying out o f the engine (Seriously?) >> Seriously, >> >> Roger Rucker >> AA5A '78 HWO >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Gary Vogt <teamgrumman(at)yahoo.com> >> To: teamgrumman-list >> Sent: Fri, May 25, 2012 3:28 pm >> Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Inlet Plugs for Jaguar Cowl on a Tiger >> >> >> >> Huh? How can you tell if there is any difference if you are not full thr ottle? Unless you have manifold pressure, fuel flow, and an accurate OAT, y ou have no way of knowing what your power setting is. >> >> >> Flat out, WOT, 1000 feet, 2950 rpm, my plane's TAS is 159-160 knots. >> >> >> >> From: Dan Schmitz <Dan.Schmitz(at)calix.com> >> To: "teamgrumman-list(at)matronics.com" >> Sent: Friday, May 25, 2012 4:52 AM >> Subject: RE: TeamGrumman-List: Inlet Plugs for Jaguar Cowl on a Tiger >> >> >> >> >> Is that full throttle at sea level? I should say that my 138 knots was s taying within the bounds of 75% power. If I did full power at 1000=C3=A2 =82=AC=84=A2 I expect I=C3=A2=82=AC=84=A2d be in the low 140s for s ure. Don=C3=A2=82=AC=84=A2t know how high. >> >> Dan >> >> >> >> From: owner-teamgrumman-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-teamgrumm an-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gary L Vogt >> Sent: Friday, May 25, 2012 1:46 AM >> To: teamgrumman-list(at)matronics.com >> Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Inlet Plugs for Jaguar Cowl on a Tiger >> >> >> >> N3752W: 144 knots >> >> N1976T: 145 knots >> >> N28747: 148 knots >> >> >> >> If your plane is not 140 knots, something is wrong. What prop are you tur ning? >> >> Gary >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >> >> On May 24, 2012, at 1:10 PM, Dan Schmitz wrote: >> >> >> Me too (wish I was closer). I=C3=A2=82=AC=84=A2ll be at Oshkosh fo r the AYA convention. Anyway what kind of speeds were you getting pre and p ost Jaguar? My best speeds both pre and post are 138 knots. Did your other planes go from 133 to 138? I=C3=A2=82=AC=84=A2ve always been able to run a bit over 2700 RPM at 8000=C3=A2=82=AC=84=A2 and that=C3=A2=82 =AC=84=A2s with a 64=C3=A2=82=AC=EF=BD pitch sensenich. Right abou t 9000=C3=A2=82=AC=84=A2 DA is where full throttle equals 2700 RPM (st robe checked, not tach), again both before and after the new cowl. >> >> Dan >> >> >> >> From: owner-teamgrumman-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-teamgrumm an-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gary Vogt >> Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2012 1:29 PM >> To: teamgrumman-list(at)matronics.com >> Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Inlet Plugs for Jaguar Cowl on a Tiger >> >> >> >> Well, Dan, >> >> >> >> On N3752W, the only change to the plane was the cowling. Right out of th e hangar it was 5 knots (TAS) faster than the stock cowling at altitudes bet ween 1500 feet and 5500 feet and 2700 rpm. It was also easier to run past 2 700 rpm at 8000 feet. So, I don't know what to tell you. >> >> >> >> When I installed the very first one on N119ST, it was 9 knots (TAS) faste r. On my plane with a 65-63-61 prop, it was 10 knots (TAS) faster. Both at 2700 rpm. My old cowling, however, didn't fit well, was debonding and patc hed all over. >> >> >> >> I wish you were closer. >> >> >> >> Gary >> >> >> >> >> >> From: Dan Schmitz <Dan.Schmitz(at)calix.com> >> To: "teamgrumman-list(at)matronics.com" >> Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2012 5:04 AM >> Subject: RE: TeamGrumman-List: Inlet Plugs for Jaguar Cowl on a Tiger >> >> >> >> >> If IAS is meaningless, then computing TAS off of IAS is a pointless exerc ise. I was comparing IAS of density altitude to IAS of the same density alt itude. The TAS calculations will work out to be the same in either case. N ote that I completely ignored the IAS in a number of test runs where I simpl y used GPS ground speed in 3 directions to compute a TAS using some fun form ulas. The numbers all come out to =C3=83=C2=A2=C3=A2=9A=C2=AC=C3=85 =9Cno real change=C3=83=C2=A2=C3=A2=9A=C2=AC=C3=AF=C2=C2=BD. >> >> >> >> Now, by the argument that a prop turning X RPM at Y density altitude will see no speed change even as there are drag reductions=C3=83=C2=A2=C3=A2 =9A=C2=AC=C3=82=C2um counter-intuitive, but my high altitude tests up to 1 3,300=C3=83=C2=A2=C3=A2=9A=C2=AC=C3=A2=9E=C2=A2 with new cowl so far show no changes either. Of course, the problem with my high density al titude tests then are they are at =C3=83=C2=A2=C3=A2=9A=C2=AC=C3=85 =9Cfull=C3=83=C2=A2=C3=A2=9A=C2=AC=C3=AF=C2=C2=BD engine power, I lean for highest RPM in a speed test at higher altitudes. I don=C3=83=C2=A2 =C3=A2=9A=C2=AC=C3=A2=9E=C2=A2t imagine my engine is doing its b est with a cylinder being broken in (maybe) and running on mineral oil. So t here=C3=83=C2=A2=C3=A2=9A=C2=AC=C3=A2=9E=C2=A2s power I=C3=83=C2 =A2=C3=A2=9A=C2=AC=C3=A2=9E=C2=A2m not getting yet. Do most Gru mmans see a 5 knot speedup after breaking in and switching to normal oil? >> >> >> >> Dan Schmitz >> >> Tiger 4518B >> >> KASH >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> =C2=C2=B7=BA~=B0=C3=AD=C2=B2,=C3=9Eg(=93=C5-=C3=93 M4=C3=93G=C3=9Aq=C3=BC=C2=A2=C3=C3=A2z=C2=B9=C3=9E=C3=81=C3=8A.=C2=AE'=C2 =AB8^M=C3=C2=C2=BB=C2=84=A2=C2=A9=C3=8B=C5-=C3=8BD=84=A2=C2 =A8=C2=A5=C5-=C3=AE=EF=BD,z=C3=98^1=C2=ABk=C2=A2x=C5=93=C2=B0=C2=B8=C2=AC =C2=B4W=C5=A1=C2=B6=C3=C3=9E=C2=B0=C3'=C2=AF=C5-=C2=AD=C2=A2=C2=BBhn=C2 =BA0=C2=B1=C3=AD=C3=A9=C5=A1=C5=B8"=C3=A2=C2=B2=C3=9B=C2=AD=C5-X=C2 =AD=B0=C3=AB,=C2=B9=C3=88Z=C2=B0=C2=B8=C2=AC=C2=B5I=C3J=C3=C3=AC r=C2=B8=C2=A9=C2=B6*' >> >> >> >> >> >> -= - The TeamGrumman-List Email Forum - >> -= Use the Matronics List Features Navigator to browse >> -= the many List utilities such as List Un/Subscription, >> -= Archive Search & Download, 7-Day Browse, Chat, FAQ, >> -= Photoshare, and much much more: >> - >> -= --> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?TeamGrumman-List >> - >> -======================== -= - MATRONICS WEB FORUMS - >> -= Same great content also available via the Web Forums! >> - >> -= --> http://forums.matronics.com >> - >> -======================== -= - List Contribution Web Site - >> -= Thank you for your generous support! >> -= -Matt Dralle, List Admin. >> -= --> http://www.matronics.com/contribution >> -======================== > > ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= > > > ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: May 26, 2012
From: Gary Vogt <teamgrumman(at)yahoo.com>
Subject: Jaguar cowling
OK, I'm attempting to buy/trade for a fuselage so that I can pre-fit the co wlings. -Here's why.=0A=0AI sold a cowling to a Tiger owner who is having someone else install the cowling. -I got an email from the installer say ing the cowling is 1/2 inch too wide and that he's going to change the jogg le down the centerline to fix the problem.=0A=0AFirst: -there is no way t he cowling can be wider. -All of the cowlings come out of the same toolin g. -=0ASecond: he's measuring it on the floor.=0AThird: on the floor, thi s doesn't take into consideration the nose strut fairing has nothing to hol d a dimension at the open end.=0AFourth: he can't just arbitrarily change t he location of the joggle without affecting the entire installation.=0AFift h: if he'd follow the instructions . . . duh . . . -there is no step that says to measure the cowling on the floor.=0A=0AThis guy is destroying a co wling and the guy who bought it will be the one who is to suffer.=0A=0AI th ought (my mistake, I know) that it is time consuming to install, but that t he installation instructions covered everything. -I forgot to include the intelligence of the installer. -=0A=0AI'm not saying what I'm really thi nking. -I'm really pissed off. ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Plugs leading up worse than normal
From: "bkspero" <bkspero(at)gmail.com>
Date: May 26, 2012
Both runup roughness and idle mixture questions are resolved. Each mag runs smoothly during runup when done leaned. Did 3 checks today and all were good. Mixture test done a idle produced only 30-50 rpm increase as I slowly pulled the mixture to idle cut-off with a warm engine at near sea level. Checked twice with same result. Thanks all for your help. Barry S(2) Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=374016#374016 ________________________________________________________________________________
From: brian sandberg <sandbag23(at)msn.com>
Subject: Jaguar Speeds
Date: May 26, 2012
>N3752W: 144 knots > >N1976T: 145 knots > >N28747: 148 knots N119ST: 151 KTAS down low=2C wide open and leaned for power. It was over r edline and gulping fuel=2C but an interesting data point. Efficient operat ions are more my style=2C and for a given rpm I am reliablly 5 to 10 KTAS b etter than book speed with about 0.5 gph less fuel burn. That's at all alt itudes=2C temperatures and various weights in smooth air over 2 years of ob servation. With my old beat up cowl and PowerFlow I was lucky to see close to book values. Wish I could nail down a single number of speed increase for you=2C but as Gary has said there are just too many variables. -Brian N119ST @ 2W6 ________________________________________________________________________________
From: 923te <923te(at)att.net>
Subject: Re: Jaguar cowling
Date: May 26, 2012
Hmmm What I can say is that it took a year for me to lengthen the cowl. I'm flyin g it now but it isn't finished. If the owner is on this list he should take h ead. It would be far less expensive to pay to fly Gary and his better half h elper out, buy his room and board and let him restart the install. No kidding On May 26, 2012, at 12:46 PM, Gary Vogt wrote: > OK, I'm attempting to buy/trade for a fuselage so that I can pre-fit the c owlings. Here's why. > > I sold a cowling to a Tiger owner who is having someone else install the c owling. I got an email from the installer saying the cowling is 1/2 inch to o wide and that he's going to change the joggle down the centerline to fix t he problem. > > First: there is no way the cowling can be wider. All of the cowlings com e out of the same tooling. > Second: he's measuring it on the floor. > Third: on the floor, this doesn't take into consideration the nose strut f airing has nothing to hold a dimension at the open end. > Fourth: he can't just arbitrarily change the location of the joggle withou t affecting the entire installation. > Fifth: if he'd follow the instructions . . . duh . . . there is no step t hat says to measure the cowling on the floor. > > This guy is destroying a cowling and the guy who bought it will be the one who is to suffer. > > I thought (my mistake, I know) that it is time consuming to install, but t hat the installation instructions covered everything. I forgot to include t he intelligence of the installer. > > I'm not saying what I'm really thinking. I'm really pissed off. > > ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= > ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Improve fit of upper cowl
From: "bkspero" <bkspero(at)gmail.com>
Date: May 26, 2012
gketell wrote: > You can definitely see cracks in the cowl at the top of the curve of each "high point". Can you take/post pictures of the inside of the cowl? Here is a pretty full set of photos both inside and outside. Two more, from the front looking at the nosebowl thru the propellor were poorly focused and I have to retake them. Do these indicate anything. I do see the delamination inside at the corners. Seems to me more like the result of the mis-fit than the cause. The upper cowl halves just seem to long, or the lower cowl seems set to high (although it lines up pretty well with the fuselage). Barry S(2) Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=374030#374030 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/right_side_horizontal_cowl_seam_150.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/rear_right_side_vertical_cowl_seam_101.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/rear_of_center_hinge_internal_right_159.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/rear_of_center_hinge_internal_left_142.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/rear_of_center_hinge_external_from_right_135.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/rear_of_center_hinge_external_from_left_156.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/rear_left_side_vertical_cowl_seam_233.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/rear_inside_right_cowl_closeup_904.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/rear_inside_right_cowl_closeup_2_252.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/rear_inside_left_rear_closeup_137.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/left_side_horizontal_cowl_seam_117.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/front_right_side_vertical_cowl_seam_and_nosebowl_205.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/front_of_center_hinge_internal_right_198.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/front_of_center_hinge_internal_left_635.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/front_of_center_hinge_external_from_right_676.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/front_of_center_hinge_external_from_left_142.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/front_left_side_vertical_cowl_seam_and_nosebowl_356.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/front_inside_right_cowl_211.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/front_inside_right_cowl_closeup_186.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/front_inside_left_cowl_closeup_206.jpg ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: May 26, 2012
From: Gary Vogt <teamgrumman(at)yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Improve fit of upper cowl
Barry, if you had wanted a near perfect plane, you missed your opportunity. -The original cowling is built to the nearest .3 inches. -Yours looks fine to me.=0A=0APic 150: -Looks normal to me.=0APic 101: -Looks normal to me.=0APic 159: -Other than the hinge . . . -I mount the hinge like this left to right: hinge, mounting bracket, hinge, mounting bracket, hinge .=0A- - - - - - - - -I open the hinge and have it straddl e the two mounting brackets.=0APic 142: -see comment for 159=0APic 135: -You can crowd the hinge aft and redrill. -It will pull the the nose bo wl aft however.=0APic 156: -No comment=0APic 233: -Seem is typical.=0AP ic 904/252: -The missing sections of the doubler are so the cowling can b end in the corner.=0APic 186: -Looks like the doubler is debonding=0ARest of pics: -Pretty typical of all the planes I see.=0A=0ABarry, go find so me other Cheetahs/Tigers. -You'll see they are all the same. -=0A=0AThe only fix is a new cowling.=0AGary=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A__________________________ ______=0A From: bkspero <bkspero(at)gmail.com>=0ATo: teamgrumman-list@matronic s.com =0ASent: Saturday, May 26, 2012 6:54 PM=0ASubject: TeamGrumman-List: "bkspero" =0A=0A=0Agketell wrote:=0A> You can definitel y see cracks in the cowl at the top of the curve of each "high point".- C an you take/post pictures of the inside of the cowl?=0A=0A=0AHere is a pret ty full set of photos both inside and outside.- Two more, from the front looking at the nosebowl thru the propellor were poorly focused and I have t o retake them.=0A=0ADo these indicate anything.- I do see the delaminatio n inside at the corners.- Seems to me more like the result of the mis-fit than the cause.- The upper cowl halves just seem to long, or the lower c owl seems set to high (although it lines up pretty well with the fuselage). =0A=0ABarry S(2)=0A=0A=0A=0A=0ARead this topic online here:=0A=0Ahttp://for ums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=374030#374030=0A=0A=0A=0A=0AAttachments : =0A=0Ahttp://forums.matronics.com//files/right_side_horizontal_cowl_seam_ 150.jpg=0Ahttp://forums.matronics.com//files/rear_right_side_vertical_cowl_ seam_101.jpg=0Ahttp://forums.matronics.com//files/rear_of_center_hinge_inte rnal_right_159.jpg=0Ahttp://forums.matronics.com//files/rear_of_center_hing e_internal_left_142.jpg=0Ahttp://forums.matronics.com//files/rear_of_center _hinge_external_from_right_135.jpg=0Ahttp://forums.matronics.com//files/rea r_of_center_hinge_external_from_left_156.jpg=0Ahttp://forums.matronics.com/ /files/rear_left_side_vertical_cowl_seam_233.jpg=0Ahttp://forums.matronics. com//files/rear_inside_right_cowl_closeup_904.jpg=0Ahttp://forums.matronics .com//files/rear_inside_right_cowl_closeup_2_252.jpg=0Ahttp://forums.matron ics.com//files/rear_inside_left_rear_closeup_137.jpg=0Ahttp://forums.matron ics.com//files/left_side_horizontal_cowl_seam_117.jpg=0Ahttp://forums.matro nics.com//files/front_right_side_vertical_cowl_seam_and_nosebowl_205.jpg=0A http://forums.matronics.com//files/front_of_center_hinge_internal_right_198 .jpg=0Ahttp://forums.matronics.com//files/front_of_center_hinge_internal_le ft_635.jpg=0Ahttp://forums.matronics.com//files/front_of_center_hinge_exter nal_from_right_676.jpg=0Ahttp://forums.matronics.com//files/front_of_center _hinge_external_from_left_142.jpg=0Ahttp://forums.matronics.com//files/fron t_left_side_vertical_cowl_seam_and_nosebowl_356.jpg=0Ahttp://forums.matroni cs.com//files/front_inside_right_cowl_211.jpg=0Ahttp://forums.matronics.com //files/front_inside_right_cowl_closeup_186.jpg=0Ahttp://forums.matronics.c ============= ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Improve fit of upper cowl
From: "gketell" <greg(at)ketell.com>
Date: May 26, 2012
The "Rear inside right" pictures shows obvious signs of debonding of the doubler. The "Rear inside left" pictures show hints that the doubler might be debonding (cracking paint around the doubler). Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=374033#374033 ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Improve fit of upper cowl
From: "bkspero" <bkspero(at)gmail.com>
Date: May 27, 2012
teamgrumman(at)yahoo.com wrote: > Barry, if you had wanted a near perfect plane, you missed your opportunity. The original cowling is built to the nearest .3 inches. Yours looks fine to me. > > Barry, go find some other Cheetahs/Tigers. You'll see they are all the same. > > I think you and I agree...that there is nothing unusual enough about the fit and setup of the nose of my plane to explain the large gaps at the bends of the upper cowl where it meets the nosebowl and the front fuselage. If you're saying that 3/8" to 1/2" gaps at those spots are also normal, that isn't what I think I've seen on other planes. But l'll look again more closely around the airport. I think we have at least 5 other AA5's. BTW, I actually measured the gaps yesterday instead of estimating. That's why the 2nd number changed. Or am I misinterpreting the situation about those gaps and you consider them to be normal, too? BTW, it sunk in that there was no such thing as a perfect 35 year old airplane somewhere between the 250th and 275th time you told me that As always, thanks for all that you contribute here, Barry S(2) Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=374037#374037 ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: May 27, 2012
From: Gary Vogt <teamgrumman(at)yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Improve fit of upper cowl
Barry,-=0A=0AThe gaps in the corners, where is doesn't fit well, is not n ormal. -But, a lot of planes do that due to misuse and abuse of the cowli ng. -Some are worse than others. -There really aren't a lot of options to fix that. -I have seen people put cam-locks in the corners. -Seen th em across the front. -If the latching mechanism weren't so screwy, I'd ma ke a fiberglass replacement for them. -=0A=0ASend a pic of you measuring the gap.=0AGary=0A=0A________________________________=0A From: bkspero <bks pero(at)gmail.com>=0ATo: teamgrumman-list(at)matronics.com =0ASent: Sunday, May 2 7, 2012 6:22 AM=0ASubject: TeamGrumman-List: Re: Improve fit of upper cowl >=0A=0A=0Ateamgrumman(at)yahoo.com wrote:=0A> Barry, if you had wanted a ne ar perfect plane, you missed your opportunity.- The original cowling is b uilt to the nearest .3 inches.- Yours looks fine to me.=0A> =0A> Barry, g o find some other Cheetahs/Tigers.- You'll see they are all the same.- =0A> =0A> =0A=0A=0AI think you and I agree...that there is nothing unusual enough about the fit and setup of the nose of my plane to explain the large gaps at the bends of the upper cowl where it meets the nosebowl and the fr ont fuselage.=0A=0AIf you're saying that 3/8" to 1/2" gaps at those spots a re also normal, that isn't what I think I've seen on other planes.- But l 'll look again more closely around the airport.- I think we have at least 5 other AA5's.- BTW, I actually measured the gaps yesterday instead of e stimating.- That's why the 2nd number changed.=0A=0AOr am I misinterpreti ng the situation about those gaps and you consider them to be normal, too? =0A=0ABTW, it sunk in that there was no such thing as a perfect 35 year old airplane somewhere between the 250th and 275th time you told me that =0A =0AAs always, thanks for all that you contribute here,=0A=0ABarry S(2)=0A =0A=0A=0A=0ARead this topic online here:=0A=0Ahttp://forums.matronics.com/v =========== ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: May 27, 2012
From: Gary Vogt <teamgrumman(at)yahoo.com>
Subject: Parting out AA1B
I know, I know, "me" and an AA1? -=0A=0AOne of my customers has an '73 AA 1B that needs a new engine. -Rather than spend $15-20K on a new engine, h e bought a Traveler for $17,000.=0A=0A=0AWe'll be using the instrument pane l overlays and eyebrow, etc, for the Traveler. -Other than that, I'm keep ing the fuselage for cowling mock-ups.=0A=0AThe wings, horizontal, vertical , and control surfaces look pretty good. -Fairly nice windshield and cano py. -=0A=0ALet me know if you know of anyone who is interested in parts f or AA1Bs=0A=0AGary ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Parting out AA1B
From: n32romeo(at)AOL.COM
Date: May 27, 2012
What shape is the top cowl in? Rich -----Original Message----- From: Gary Vogt <teamgrumman(at)yahoo.com> Sent: Sun, May 27, 2012 2:50 pm Subject: TeamGrumman-List: Parting out AA1B I know, I know, "me" and an AA1? One of my customers has an '73 AA1B that needs a new engine. Rather than s pend $15-20K on a new engine, he bought a Traveler for $17,000. We'll be using the instrument panel overlays and eyebrow, etc, for the Trav eler. Other than that, I'm keeping the fuselage for cowling mock-ups. The wings, horizontal, vertical, and control surfaces look pretty good. Fa irly nice windshield and canopy. Let me know if you know of anyone who is interested in parts for AA1Bs Gary ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: May 27, 2012
Subject: Re: Parting out AA1B
From: Airport Bum <aa5_driver(at)yahoo.com>
I think that a guy in Texas was looking for a wing. Don't remember the details, but you might check with Garner. Kevin n32romeo(at)AOL.COM wrote: > >What shape is the top cowl in? >Rich > > >-----Original Message----- >From: Gary Vogt <teamgrumman(at)yahoo.com> >To: Teamgrumman List >Sent: Sun, May 27, 2012 2:50 pm >Subject: TeamGrumman-List: Parting out AA1B > > >I know, I know, "me" and an AA1? > > >One of my customers has an '73 AA1B that needs a new engine. Rather than spend $15-20K on a new engine, he bought a Traveler for $17,000. > > >We'll be using the instrument panel overlays and eyebrow, etc, for the Traveler. Other than that, I'm keeping the fuselage for cowling mock-ups. > > >The wings, horizontal, vertical, and control surfaces look pretty good. Fairly nice windshield and canopy. > > >Let me know if you know of anyone who is interested in parts for AA1Bs > > >Gary > > > ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Parting out AA1B
From: Gary L Vogt <teamgrumman(at)yahoo.com>
Date: May 28, 2012
I'll given Garner a call tomorrow. Thanks. Gary Sent from my iPad On May 27, 2012, at 8:22 PM, Airport Bum wrote: > > I think that a guy in Texas was looking for a wing. Don't remember the details, but you might check with Garner. > > Kevin > > n32romeo(at)AOL.COM wrote: > >> >> What shape is the top cowl in? >> Rich >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Gary Vogt <teamgrumman(at)yahoo.com> >> To: Teamgrumman List >> Sent: Sun, May 27, 2012 2:50 pm >> Subject: TeamGrumman-List: Parting out AA1B >> >> >> >> I know, I know, "me" and an AA1? >> >> >> One of my customers has an '73 AA1B that needs a new engine. Rather than spend $15-20K on a new engine, he bought a Traveler for $17,000. >> >> >> >> >> We'll be using the instrument panel overlays and eyebrow, etc, for the Traveler. Other than that, I'm keeping the fuselage for cowling mock-ups. >> >> >> The wings, horizontal, vertical, and control surfaces look pretty good. Fairly nice windshield and canopy. >> >> >> Let me know if you know of anyone who is interested in parts for AA1Bs >> >> >> Gary >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Parting out AA1B
From: Gary L Vogt <teamgrumman(at)yahoo.com>
Date: May 28, 2012
I'm not sure how to judge it. It looks OK to me. Gary Sent from my iPad On May 27, 2012, at 7:49 PM, n32romeo(at)AOL.COM wrote: > What shape is the top cowl in? > Rich > -----Original Message----- > From: Gary Vogt <teamgrumman(at)yahoo.com> > To: Teamgrumman List > Sent: Sun, May 27, 2012 2:50 pm > Subject: TeamGrumman-List: Parting out AA1B > > I know, I know, "me" and an AA1? > > One of my customers has an '73 AA1B that needs a new engine. Rather than s pend $15-20K on a new engine, he bought a Traveler for $17,000. > > > We'll be using the instrument panel overlays and eyebrow, etc, for the Tra veler. Other than that, I'm keeping the fuselage for cowling mock-ups. > > The wings, horizontal, vertical, and control surfaces look pretty good. Fa irly nice windshield and canopy. > > Let me know if you know of anyone who is interested in parts for AA1Bs > > Gary > > > st" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?TeamGrumman-List > tp://forums.matronics.com > _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution > > > ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= > ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Improve fit of upper cowl
From: "bkspero" <bkspero(at)gmail.com>
Date: May 29, 2012
teamgrumman(at)yahoo.com wrote: > > > Send a pic of you measuring the gap. > > At first I thought you wanted a photo of my smiling face while I was measuring the gap...but reconsidered after I looked in the mirror. So tried to take photos, of the gap being measured. But camera did not resolve the fine graduations on the scale that I have. I think anything more is moot, though. If there is no easy correction, then I will leave well enough alone. The plane is a joy to fly, gaps and all. I can always tell people that I am working on a Cooling STC! Thanks again, Gary Barry Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=374155#374155 ________________________________________________________________________________
From: Dan Schmitz <Dan.Schmitz(at)calix.com>
Subject: Re: Improve fit of upper cowl
Date: May 29, 2012
At the risk of being way off in the weeds... Isn't it possible to adjust the height of the cowl latches? Has that been tried to pull the top cowl down more? Dan Schmitz Tiger 4518B KASH > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-teamgrumman-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner- > teamgrumman-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of bkspero > Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2012 9:04 AM > To: teamgrumman-list(at)matronics.com > Subject: TeamGrumman-List: Re: Improve fit of upper cowl > > > > teamgrumman(at)yahoo.com wrote: > > > > > > Send a pic of you measuring the gap. > > > > > > > At first I thought you wanted a photo of my smiling face while I was > measuring the gap...but reconsidered after I looked in the mirror. > > So tried to take photos, of the gap being measured. But camera did not > resolve the fine graduations on the scale that I have. > > I think anything more is moot, though. If there is no easy correction, > then I will leave well enough alone. The plane is a joy to fly, gaps > and all. I can always tell people that I am working on a Cooling STC! > > Thanks again, Gary > Barry > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=374155#374155 > > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Improve fit of upper cowl
From: "bkspero" <bkspero(at)gmail.com>
Date: May 29, 2012
Dan.Schmitz(at)calix.com wrote: > At the risk of being way off in the weeds... > Isn't it possible to adjust the height of the cowl latches? Has that been tried to pull the top cowl down more? > > Dan Schmitz > Tiger 4518B > KASH > > Unless I misunderstand what you are suggesting, Dan, I don't think so. Not unless we trim a fair amount from the lower edge of each upper cowl half. If you look up a few posts at the photo titled: left_side_horizontal_cowl_seam_117.jpg you can see that the horizontal seam between the upper and lower cowls is tight. So I think any downward adjustment of the latch position on the lower cowl (and I don't know if it is adjustable or not) to pull the upper cowl down and close the gaps will cause the upper cowl to overlap what should be an exposed portion of the lower cowl. It would, I think, trade one misfit for another. On the bright side, I have great low cylinder temperatures. So, I could either attribute that to the superior job Gary did for the prior owner installing the rebuilt engine and building new baffles, OR I could attribute them to enhanced airflow due to the gaps at the corner of the cowling. Since I would rather not compliment Gary, I will point to the cowling gaps. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=374172#374172 ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: May 29, 2012
Subject: Re: Improve fit of upper cowl
From: FLYaDIVE <flyadive(at)gmail.com>
Very Good Barry... You are 100% correct, your upper to lower cowl gap is correct and tightening the latch would do damage not improve what I have seen in the pictures. Gee... I hope Gary takes what you said as a complement - He does not read very well and jumps to conclusions. I took it as a complement to his workmanship ;-) Off to the AP to work on my lame bird. BIRD! Did some one say BIRD. Keep an eye open during pre-flight. There are hundredths of birds nesting out there... I pulled three nests from planes so far. Did you put foam, in your wing tips, where the counter-balance weights exit? Barry On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 10:32 AM, bkspero wrote: > > > Dan.Schmitz(at)calix.com wrote: > > At the risk of being way off in the weeds... > > Isn't it possible to adjust the height of the cowl latches? Has that > been tried to pull the top cowl down more? > > > > Dan Schmitz > > Tiger 4518B > > KASH > > > > > > > Unless I misunderstand what you are suggesting, Dan, I don't think so. > Not unless we trim a fair amount from the lower edge of each upper cowl > half. If you look up a few posts at the photo titled: > > left_side_horizontal_cowl_seam_117.jpg > > you can see that the horizontal seam between the upper and lower cowls is > tight. So I think any downward adjustment of the latch position on the > lower cowl (and I don't know if it is adjustable or not) to pull the upper > cowl down and close the gaps will cause the upper cowl to overlap what > should be an exposed portion of the lower cowl. It would, I think, trade > one misfit for another. > > On the bright side, I have great low cylinder temperatures. So, I could > either attribute that to the superior job Gary did for the prior owner > installing the rebuilt engine and building new baffles, OR I could > attribute them to enhanced airflow due to the gaps at the corner of the > cowling. Since I would rather not compliment Gary, I will point to the > cowling gaps. > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=374172#374172 > > ________________________________________________________________________________
From: Dan Schmitz <Dan.Schmitz(at)calix.com>
Subject: Re: Improve fit of upper cowl
Date: May 29, 2012
You understood correctly. I just didn't look closely enough at the pictures. Dan > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-teamgrumman-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner- > teamgrumman-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of bkspero > Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2012 10:32 AM > To: teamgrumman-list(at)matronics.com > Subject: TeamGrumman-List: Re: Improve fit of upper cowl > > > > Dan.Schmitz(at)calix.com wrote: > > At the risk of being way off in the weeds... > > Isn't it possible to adjust the height of the cowl latches? Has that > been tried to pull the top cowl down more? > > > > Dan Schmitz > > Tiger 4518B > > KASH > > > > > > > Unless I misunderstand what you are suggesting, Dan, I don't think so. > Not unless we trim a fair amount from the lower edge of each upper cowl > half. If you look up a few posts at the photo titled: > > left_side_horizontal_cowl_seam_117.jpg > > you can see that the horizontal seam between the upper and lower cowls > is tight. So I think any downward adjustment of the latch position on > the lower cowl (and I don't know if it is adjustable or not) to pull > the upper cowl down and close the gaps will cause the upper cowl to > overlap what should be an exposed portion of the lower cowl. It would, > I think, trade one misfit for another. > > On the bright side, I have great low cylinder temperatures. So, I > could either attribute that to the superior job Gary did for the prior > owner installing the rebuilt engine and building new baffles, OR I > could attribute them to enhanced airflow due to the gaps at the corner > of the cowling. Since I would rather not compliment Gary, I will point > to the cowling gaps. > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=374172#374172 > > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: May 29, 2012
From: Gary Vogt <teamgrumman(at)yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Improve fit of upper cowl
Hi Barry,=0A=0ACan you push the corner down? -Is there a gap at the matin g surface to the lower cowling? -Odds are, there isn't much you can do. =0A=0AGary=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0A From: bkspero <bkspe ro(at)gmail.com>=0ATo: teamgrumman-list(at)matronics.com =0ASent: Tuesday, May 29 , 2012 6:03 AM=0ASubject: TeamGrumman-List: Re: Improve fit of upper cowl >=0A=0A=0Ateamgrumman(at)yahoo.com wrote:=0A> =0A> =0A> Send a pic of you m easuring the gap.=0A> =0A> =0A=0A=0AAt first I thought you wanted a photo o f my smiling face while I was measuring the gap...but reconsidered after I looked in the mirror.=0A=0ASo tried to take photos, of the gap being measur ed.- But camera did not resolve the fine graduations on the scale that I have.=0A=0AI think anything more is moot, though.- If there is no easy co rrection, then I will leave well enough alone.- The plane is a joy to fly , gaps and all.- I can always tell people that I am working on a Cooling STC!=0A=0AThanks again, Gary=0ABarry=0A=0A=0A=0A=0ARead this topic online h ere:=0A=0Ahttp://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=374155#374155=0A=0A ====================== ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Improve fit of upper cowl
From: "bkspero" <bkspero(at)gmail.com>
Date: May 29, 2012
teamgrumman(at)yahoo.com wrote: > Hi Barry, > > Can you push the corner down? Is there a gap at the mating surface to the lower cowling? Odds are, there isn't much you can do. > > Gary > I've tried to push it tighter originally, but the bottom of the upper cowl sits tightly and evenly on the mating surface of the lower cowl. There's no room for meaningful further closure. I show photos of both the left and right sides in the big block of images I attached a few notes above. You can see that the seam is tight. If this is the worst issue I ever have with 74429, I will be a lucky pilot! Thanks again for everyone's input and help. Barry S(2) Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=374221#374221 ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: May 30, 2012
From: Gary Vogt <teamgrumman(at)yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Improve fit of upper cowl
Barry,=0A=0AA few years ago, I had a Cheetah owner come in who wanted a new upper right half of the cowling to fix a similar problem. -About $1500 l ater, after buying the right upper cowling half ($850), stripping-filling-a nd-painting the new one ($300), and removing the old and installing the new ($300), he had a new (read: different) upper right half. -It looked a li ttle better, flew the same, and I made money.=0A=0AI don't think it improve d it $1500 worth.=0A=0AGary=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0A Fro m: bkspero =0ATo: teamgrumman-list(at)matronics.com =0ASent : Tuesday, May 29, 2012 4:37 PM=0ASubject: TeamGrumman-List: Re: Improve fi spero(at)gmail.com>=0A=0A=0Ateamgrumman(at)yahoo.com wrote:=0A> Hi Barry,=0A> =0A> Can you push the corner down?- Is there a gap at the mating surface to the lower cowling?- Odds are, there isn't much you can do.=0A> =0A> Ga ry=0A> =0A=0A=0AI've tried to push it tighter originally, but the bottom of the upper cowl sits tightly and evenly on the mating surface of the lower cowl.- There's no room for meaningful further closure.- I show photos o f both the left and right sides in the big block of images I attached a few notes above.- You can see that the seam is tight.=0A=0AIf this is the wo rst issue I ever have with 74429, I will be a lucky pilot!=0A=0AThanks agai n for everyone's input and help.=0A=0ABarry S(2)=0A=0A=0A=0A=0ARead this to pic online here:=0A=0Ahttp://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=374221# = ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Re: Improve fit of upper cowl
From: "bkspero" <bkspero(at)gmail.com>
Date: May 31, 2012
teamgrumman(at)yahoo.com wrote: > Barry, > > > A few years ago, I had a Cheetah owner come in who wanted a new upper right half of the cowling to fix a similar problem. About $1500 later, after buying the right upper cowling half ($850), stripping-filling-and-painting the new one ($300), and removing the old and installing the new ($300), he had a new (read: different) upper right half. It looked a little better, flew the same, and I made money. > > > I don't think it improved it $1500 worth. > > > Gary > > If I'm lucky enough to still be flying when its time for a new paint job, maybe I'll think about it then. But for now, they are firmly in the "leave well enough alone" category. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=374355#374355 ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Nose gear torque tube.
From: Gary L Vogt <teamgrumman(at)yahoo.com>
Date: Jun 03, 2012
Bob, I stripped the paint off the torque tube and found a few locations of rust. Can I remove the bolts near the center to expose the tube where the collar sits? I've never taken one apart before. Gary Sent from my iPad ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jun 03, 2012
Subject: Re: Nose gear torque tube.
From: Bob Steward <n76lima(at)mindspring.com>
I have some better ones, but will have to keep digging for them. http://mira.sbw.org/photos/20050909/P9090219/ If yours has the shear bolts at the inboard ends, you can't get the brackets too far apart. --Bob Steward ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jun 03, 2012
From: Gary Vogt <teamgrumman(at)yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Nose gear torque tube.
Bob,-=0A=0AMine has two NAS bolts near the inboard attaching brackets. -Can I remove those bolts?=0A=0AGary=0A=0A=0A____________________________ ____=0A From: Bob Steward <n76lima(at)mindspring.com>=0ATo: teamgrumman-list@m atronics.com =0ASent: Sunday, June 3, 2012 11:21 AM=0ASubject: TeamGrumman- List: Re: Nose gear torque tube.=0A =0A--> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: Bob Steward =0A=0AI have some better ones, but will have to keep digging for them.=0A=0Ahttp://mira.sbw.org/photos/2005090 9/P9090219/=0A=0AIf yours has the shear bolts at the inboard ends, you can' =========== ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jun 03, 2012
From: Gary Vogt <teamgrumman(at)yahoo.com>
Subject: Nose gear torque tube bolts
OK, let's try again.=0A=0AI removed the nose gear torque tube from 28747. -=0AI stripped all of the paint.=0AUnder the paint in a few places is rus t. -=0AOne place is at a joint . . -I'll investigate that today.=0A=0AO n the inboard are two bolts, one on each side of the center.=0A=0AThere are brackets on either side of center. -These brackets are held together by AN bolts.=0AInside of the brackets is a collar.-=0A=0AThe surface of the brackets that sits on the collar have some rust.=0A=0AI would like to sand off the rust and paint the inside of these brackets. -Problem is the bolt s prevent me from moving the brackets very far apart.=0A=0AI've never had o ne apart before.=0A=0ACan I remove these bolts? -=0A ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jun 03, 2012
Subject: Re: Nose gear torque tube.
From: Bob Steward <n76lima(at)mindspring.com>
They are shear bolts, and the holes are reamed to a drive fit. If you remove them (which you may need a big hammer to drive them out), it may leave the holes oversized. I don't think they are considered field serviceable. The only ones I've taken apart are ones that are going in for repair. --Bob Gary Vogt wrote: >Bob, > >Mine has two NAS bolts near the inboard attaching brackets. Can I remove those bolts? > >Gary > > >________________________________ > From: Bob Steward <n76lima(at)mindspring.com> >To: teamgrumman-list(at)matronics.com >Sent: Sunday, June 3, 2012 11:21 AM >Subject: TeamGrumman-List: Re: Nose gear torque tube. > > >I have some better ones, but will have to keep digging for them. > >http://mira.sbw.org/photos/20050909/P9090219/ > >If yours has the shear bolts at the inboard ends, you can'=========== ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jun 03, 2012
Subject: Re: Nose gear torque tube bolts
From: Bob Steward <n76lima(at)mindspring.com>
The NAS shear bolts are not field serviceable, in my opinion. Not sure how you'd get to them while the torque tube is in place. After taking the assembly out, one would need either a press or a hammer to push them out, and the holes may be damaged in the process. There may be data on oversize bolts, but I don't have access to it. Perhaps Garner Rice, or Frank Johnston's son-in-law, now that Frank and Patricia have both died, may have that data. I'd be very wary of any rust on such a highly stressed part. --Bob Gary Vogt wrote: >OK, let's try again. > >I removed the nose gear torque tube from 28747. >I stripped all of the paint. >Under the paint in a few places is rust. >One place is at a joint . . I'll investigate that today. > >On the inboard are two bolts, one on each side of the center. > >There are brackets on either side of center. These brackets are held together by AN bolts. >Inside of the brackets is a collar. > >The surface of the brackets that sits on the collar have some rust. > >I would like to sand off the rust and paint the inside of these brackets. Problem is the bolts prevent me from moving the brackets very far apart. > >I've never had one apart before. > >Can I remove these bolts? ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jun 03, 2012
From: Gary Vogt <teamgrumman(at)yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Nose gear torque tube bolts
Bummer. -I'll have to do the best I can.=0A=0A=0A________________________ ________=0A From: Bob Steward <n76lima(at)mindspring.com>=0ATo: teamgrumman-li st(at)matronics.com =0ASent: Sunday, June 3, 2012 12:14 PM=0ASubject: TeamGrum man-List: Re: Nose gear torque tube bolts=0A =0A--> TeamGrumman-List messag e posted by: Bob Steward =0A=0AThe NAS shear bolts are not field serviceable, in my opinion. Not sure how you'd get to them wh ile the torque tube is in place.- After taking the assembly out, one woul d need either a press or a hammer to push them out, and the holes may be da maged in the process.=0AThere may be data on oversize bolts, but I don't ha ve access to it.- Perhaps Garner Rice, or Frank Johnston's son-in-law, no w that Frank and Patricia have both died, may have that data.=0AI'd be very wary of any rust on such a highly stressed part.=0A--Bob=0A=0A=0AGary Vogt wrote:=0A=0A>OK, let's try again.=0A>=0A>I removed the nose gear torque tube from 28747. -=0A>I stripped all of the paint. =0A>Under the paint in a few places is rust. -=0A>One place is at a joint . . -I'll investigate that today.=0A>=0A>On the inboard are two bolts, o ne on each side of the center.=0A>=0A>There are brackets on either side of center. -These brackets are held together by AN bolts.=0A>Inside of the b rackets is a collar.-=0A>=0A>The surface of the brackets that sits on the collar have some rust.=0A>=0A>I would like to sand off the rust and paint the inside of these brackets. -Problem is the bolts prevent me from movin g the brackets very far apart.=0A>=0A>I've never had one apart before.=0A> -======================== - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -Matt Dralle, List ====== ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jun 21, 2012
From: Gary Vogt <teamgrumman(at)yahoo.com>
Subject: Parts is Parts
Cleaning out the attic. =C2-Spring cleaning and all. =C2-Make an offer on anything you want or need.=0A=0A=A2 AA5x Rudder & vertical=C2- =0A=A2=C2-AG5B Seats. =C2-I paid $1000 for them. =C2-Material l ooks new. =C2-Maroon. =C2-=0A=0A=A2=C2-AA5x cowling=0A=0A =A2=C2-AA5x aileron weights. =C2-Powder coated in silver.=0A=0A =A2=C2-AA5x nose fork. =C2-New bearings, not installed.=0A=0A=A2 =C2-AA5x axles.=0A=0A=A2=C2-Assorted O320 and O360 exhaust risers . =C2-=0A=0A=A2=C2-AA5x landing gear castings. =C2-The some wha t "U" shaped pieces.=0A=0A=A2=C2-AA5x flap cross-shaft=0A=0A =A2=C2-some other flap mechanism pieces. =C2-No motor.=0A=0A=A2 =C2-Hobbs with switch.=0A=0A=A2=C2-3 elevator tips. =C2-One is new.=0A=0A=A2=C2-AA1 nose gear strut. =C2-Painted in black Imron. =C2-Was being used on an AG5B.=0A=0A=A2=C2-Step fairings (2 of e ach) =C2-=0A=0A=C2- =C2-I think I have the steps also. =C2-=0A =A2=C2-2 brake disks. =C2-I think one is chrome. =C2-Both are in v ery nice condition.=0A=0A=A2=C2-1 new cabin light/map light plastic =C2-=0A=0A=A2=C2-2 M-20 air-oil separators.=0A=0A=A2=C2-A A5x control "T" bar.=0A=0A=A2=C2-4 cabin ventilators (the plastic b ox under the panel). =C2-2 of them have the vents. =C2-vents in good sh ape.=0A=0A=A2=C2-AA5x Rudder peddle shafts, with peddles.=0A=0A =A2=C2-4 complete nose gear shock assemblies. =C2-i.e., 8 shocks and the mounts.=0A ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Denham, Bobby D." <BDDenham(at)lasd.org>
Subject: Re: Parts is Parts
Date: Jun 22, 2012
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From: Garner Rice <garnerrice(at)hotmail.com>
Subject: Parts is Parts
Date: Jun 21, 2012
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Date: Jun 21, 2012
From: Gary Vogt <teamgrumman(at)yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Parts is Parts

May 21, 2012 - June 21, 2012

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