Yak-Archive.digest.vol-cs
May 18, 2004 - May 30, 2004
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| From: | Gary Reynolds <gary.reynolds(at)hills.com.au> |
| Subject: | Can your Yak do this?? |
what program do you need to view this
-----Original Message-----
From: Janet Davidson [mailto:gbvfx(at)hotmail.com]
Subject: Yak-List: Can your Yak do this??
http://www.stevesairshow.com/videos/jsoh04/jsoh04-yak-close.rm
Ph: 920 232 9238
email: gbvfx(at)hotmail.com
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| From: | "Frank Haertlein" <yak52driver(at)earthlink.net> |
| Subject: | Can your Yak do this?? |
Realplayer is the program you need to view this link
http://www.stevesairshow.com/videos/jsoh04/jsoh04-yak-close.rm
Click here for the download
http://www.realnetworks.com/index_rn.html
Good Luck
Frank
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| From: | "Terry Calloway" <TCalloway(at)datatechnique.com> |
| Subject: | Can your Yak do this?? |
Real Player http://www.real.com/
tc
>>> gary.reynolds(at)hills.com.au 5/17/2004 10:01:05 PM >>>
gary.reynolds(at)hills.com.au >
what program do you need to view this
-----Original Message-----
From: Janet Davidson [ mailto:gbvfx(at)hotmail.com]
Subject: Yak-List: Can your Yak do this??
http://www.stevesairshow.com/videos/jsoh04/jsoh04-yak-close.rm
Ph: 920 232 9238
email: gbvfx(at)hotmail.com
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| From: | "Ron Davis" <l39parts(at)hotmail.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Fitting to air up a YAK52 |
Oops. I hate it when that happens. You got the wrong part. I'll get a new
one out to you. Don't bother to return that one.
Ron.
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| From: | "Ron Davis" <l39parts(at)hotmail.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Fitting to air up a YAK52 |
P.S. Dennis is correct, sort of. I'd put the Schrder in the fitting on the
plane rather than the cap. Pull out the rubber gasket and the hole taps
with a 1/8" pipe tap without drilling, then a $10 Schrader screws in.
If you'd rather do that, let me know and I'll refund your money. (I'll send
you a Schrader free for your trouble too.)
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "A. Dennis Savarese" <adsavar(at)gte.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Fitting to air up a YAK52 |
Yes, you can certainly do that. But when you tap the hole, you have the
potential of inducing metal shavings into the pneumatic system. Also each
time you remove and reinstall the fitting on the plane you have the same
potential of putting very fine metal shavings into the line that you may not
necessarily be able to remove. Each time you externally pressurize the
system, you'll force those metal shavings into the check valve on the fire
wall. If you're lucky enough to have the shavings pass through the check
valve and into the air filter, that's terrific. But the potential to force
metal shavings into the pneumatic system is fairly high. BTW, wasn't that
what happened to one of our posters? ie: drilling/taping the hole behind
the rubber seal?
I install Schrader valves on the outside cover of every airplane I deliver.
My personal airplane has had one on it for 7+ years and all have worked
perfectly.
Dennis
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ron Davis" <l39parts(at)hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Fitting to air up a YAK52
>
> P.S. Dennis is correct, sort of. I'd put the Schrder in the fitting on
the
> plane rather than the cap. Pull out the rubber gasket and the hole taps
> with a 1/8" pipe tap without drilling, then a $10 Schrader screws in.
>
> If you'd rather do that, let me know and I'll refund your money. (I'll
send
> you a Schrader free for your trouble too.)
>
>
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| From: | "David Stroud" <davestroud(at)rogers.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Fitting to air up a YAK52 |
Could someone please take a minute and suggest how best to install an aux air supply
fitting to the main valve of the air tank bottle. I was away for the weekend and
probably have
missed some posts and apologize for that. I have seen references in earlier posts
to
Aircraft Spruce pn. 4361S ( strut valve ) and also pn SK2043-5 (gooseneck hose
coupling) and also the "Shrader valve". I'm just a bit confused with the need for
tapping, etc.
I thought the strut valve got permanently installed on the main air tank valve
neck and the
gooseneck
fitting attached to a hose on the aux air supply. The gooseneck fitting gets attached
to the
strut
valve and in goes the aux air. When or why is the extra shrader valve needed, please?
I know
I'm missing something here.
Thank you.
Dave Stroud, Ottawa, Canada
Christavia C-FDWS
Fairchild 51 early construction
> I install Schrader valves on the outside cover of every airplane I deliver.
> My personal airplane has had one on it for 7+ years and all have worked
> perfectly.
> Dennis
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ron Davis" <l39parts(at)hotmail.com>
> To:
> Subject: Re: Yak-List: Fitting to air up a YAK52
>
>
> >
> > P.S. Dennis is correct, sort of. I'd put the Schrder in the fitting on
> the
> > plane rather than the cap. Pull out the rubber gasket and the hole taps
> > with a 1/8" pipe tap without drilling, then a $10 Schrader screws in.
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| From: | "yak52" <yak52(at)jdlsolutions.com> |
More photos of ARS 2004 - check out the Mig21!!!
http://www.flyredstar.org/albums/ars2004/index.html
Deon Esterhuizen.
<http://www.flyredstar.org/albums/ars2004/index.html>
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | cjpilot710(at)aol.com |
| Subject: | home from All RedStar |
keith.goolsby(at)eds.com, gaf127enl(at)msn.com, MDSHELLEY(at)aol.com,
yakjock(at)msn.com, walterfricke(at)yahoo.com, finleycj6(at)juno.com,
BDorsey777(at)aol.com, dabear(at)damned.org, TCalloway(at)hangar-d.com,
mason.t(at)worldnet.att.net, wpairprt(at)tdstelme.net, radialpower(at)cox.net,
KILOUSMC(at)aol.com, FamilyGage(at)aol.com, rvfltd(at)televar.com,
cd001633(at)mindspring.com, ernest.martinez(at)oracle.com, FOUGAPILOT(at)hotmail.com,
N23GD(at)yahoo.com, jtobul(at)tobul.com, tormentor34(at)netzero.net
Troops,
Stumbled into bed last night (2300hrs) after airlineing home from All RedStar
at MER. Bushed. I had radio problems with my CJ and was just getting over a
bad cold, so I went out the easy way. Anyway I had very good time out there.
It was nice to see old friends, meet some new ones, and fly.
I got to fly some really nice airplanes as IIB ("instructor in back") to
FNGs. We have some good talent coming up. What was really great was seeing some
30+ CJ-6s and 20 or so Yaks. There was a bunch of Yak-50 there this time as
well as TWs. Interesting was Drew's Yak-50 Serial Number 1. It had been built
with flush riveted wings and had less than 100 hours on it when Drew got it.
At one point there were 4 Yak-11s, 2 L-29s, 2 L-39s, 1 Yak-9, 1 Mig-17 &
Mig-21. Let me tell you there is nothing like watching Mig-21 crossing your 6
o-clock!
Lots of CJ-6s there with the new "Malcolm" hood that Bill Blackwell will
swear will get you "5kts". ;-} I had not seen one before and didn't find it
objectionable. It gives the "vertically challenged" pilots a lot more head room
and allows the seat to move up to the top of its adjustment for a better view on
landing and still wear a helment. Also saw a number of CJs with the new large
fuel bladder tanks. These add a little over 10 to 11 gals per side, without
extensive wing work.
I was the formation judge and got to present the trophy to the "Bay Bombers".
They beat the "Vagra" pilots alias "Big Dicks" by just 21 points. The "Big
Dicks" "Showmanship" part of their routine was to immolate the Thunderbirds
startup. I give them 200 points but docked them 75 for "sloppiness". The "Bay
Bombers" pulled a diamond brake for the landing which was almost perfect
except for spacing on the final. The "Big Dick" guys did a fan brake, that was
a
little ragged but had perfect spacing though the approach and touch down.
A lot of work went into this by Barry, Drew, Amy, "Postal" and a bunch of
instant volunteers. The Discovery channel was there and the event will be on the
first show of the new season, in a few months.
Well done Barry. Very well done.
Jim Goolsby
"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little safety,
deserve neither liberty nor safety"
Benjamin Franklin 1759
"With my shield, or on it"
Trojan Warriors BC
"The reason older men are like fine wine. When young, they are like grapes
until some woman stomps all over them."
Unknown older man.
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Barry Hancock <radialpower(at)cox.net> |
| Subject: | All Red Star pics |
On May 17, 2004, at 11:58 PM, Yak-List Digest Server wrote:
>
>
>
> Thought you guys might enjoy some of these pics from Red Stars 2004
Frank,
Thanks for the quick turn around on the pics!
I'll put up a full report here soon, but the nutshell version is that a
great time was had by all. Several hundred hops were safely executed,
the big iron played for the crowd on Friday night, Gen. Ritchie was a
hit at the banquet, Rainbow Valley Foster Care was happily supported,
The History Chanel, InFlightUSA, and several other media outlets were
there, and we found BB's $1100 worth of missing headsets!
Thanks to everyone who came and made this another great year. The
planning for ARS 2005 is already underway!
Cheers,
Barry
Barry Hancock
Event Director
All Red Star 2004
(949) 300-5510
www.allredstar.com
"Communism - Lousy Politics, Great Airplanes!"
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Barry Hancock <radialpower(at)cox.net> |
I did not turn off my auto-reply...sorry for the "noise".
Barry
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Barry Hancock <radialpower(at)cox.net> |
| Subject: | Re: home from All RedStar |
Thanks, Jim. Coming from you that means a lot. Thanks for all your
help!
Cheers,
Barry
On May 18, 2004, at 7:09 AM, cjpilot710(at)aol.com wrote:
> Troops,
> Stumbled into bed last night (2300hrs) after airlineing home from All
> RedStar at MER.=A0 Bushed.=A0 I had radio problems with my CJ and was just
> getting over a bad cold, so I went out the easy way. Anyway I had very
> good time out there.=A0 It was nice to see old friends, meet some new
> ones, and fly.=A0
>
> I got to fly some really nice airplanes as IIB ("instructor in back")
> to FNGs.=A0 We have some good talent coming up.=A0 What was really great
> was seeing some 30+ CJ-6s and 20 or so Yaks.=A0 There was a bunch of
> Yak-50 there this time as well as TWs.=A0 Interesting was Drew's Yak-50
> Serial Number 1.=A0 It had been built with flush riveted wings and had
> less than 100 hours on it when Drew got it.
>
> At one point there were 4 Yak-11s, 2 L-29s, 2 L-39s, 1 Yak-9, 1
> Mig-17 & Mig-21.=A0 Let me tell you there is nothing like watching
> Mig-21 crossing your 6 o-clock!
>
> Lots of CJ-6s there with the new "Malcolm" hood that Bill Blackwell
> will swear will get you "5kts". ;-}=A0 I had not seen one before and
> didn't find it objectionable.=A0 It gives the "vertically challenged"
> pilots a lot more head room and allows the seat to move up to the top
> of its adjustment for a better view on landing and still wear a
> helment. Also saw a number of CJs with the new large fuel bladder
> tanks.=A0 These add a little over 10 to 11 gals per side, without
> extensive wing work.
>
> I was the formation judge and got to present the trophy to the "Bay
> Bombers".=A0 They beat the "Vagra" pilots alias "Big Dicks" by just 21
> points.=A0 The "Big Dicks" "Showmanship" part of their routine was to
> immolate the Thunderbirds startup.=A0 I give them 200 points but docked
> them 75 for "sloppiness".=A0 The "Bay Bombers" pulled a diamond brake
> for the landing which was almost perfect except for spacing on the
> final.=A0 The "Big Dick" guys did a fan brake, that was a little ragged
> but had perfect spacing though the approach and touch down.
>
> A lot of work went into this by Barry, Drew, Amy, "Postal" and a
> bunch of instant volunteers.=A0 The Discovery channel was there and the
> event will be on the first show of the new season, in a few months.
>
> Well done Barry.=A0 Very well done.
>
>
> Jim Goolsby
>
> "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little safety,
> deserve neither liberty nor safety"
> =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0
Benjamin Franklin
> 1759
> "With my shield, or on it"
> =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0
Trojan Warriors
BC
> "The reason older men are like fine wine.=A0 When young, they are like
> grapes until some woman stomps all over them."
> =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0
Unknown older
man.
>
Barry Hancock
Event Director
All Red Star 2004
(949) 300-5510
www.allredstar.com
"Communism - Lousy Politics, Great Airplanes!"
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Sam Sax" <cd001633(at)mindspring.com> |
| Subject: | All Red Star pics |
Barry and Gang,
Glad to hear all went well at ARS 2004 - I am also very frustrated for
missing another great event...:( May be next year...:)
Even though I didn't get to participate, I want to thank you and all that
were involved in putting this together, for the great job and the countless
hours (and $$) invested - the entire All-Red-Star community benefited from
this event in the great national PR this will generate for our airplane and
us as a very serious and professional organization and members.
Salute!
Sam Sax
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com]On Behalf Of Barry Hancock
Subject: Yak-List: All Red Star pics
On May 17, 2004, at 11:58 PM, Yak-List Digest Server wrote:
>
>
>
> Thought you guys might enjoy some of these pics from Red Stars 2004
Frank,
Thanks for the quick turn around on the pics!
I'll put up a full report here soon, but the nutshell version is that a
great time was had by all. Several hundred hops were safely executed,
the big iron played for the crowd on Friday night, Gen. Ritchie was a
hit at the banquet, Rainbow Valley Foster Care was happily supported,
The History Chanel, InFlightUSA, and several other media outlets were
there, and we found BB's $1100 worth of missing headsets!
Thanks to everyone who came and made this another great year. The
planning for ARS 2005 is already underway!
Cheers,
Barry
Barry Hancock
Event Director
All Red Star 2004
(949) 300-5510
www.allredstar.com
"Communism - Lousy Politics, Great Airplanes!"
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Bill VonDane <bill(at)vondane.com> |
| Subject: | Coat of ownership... |
Anyone ever worked out the cost of owning and flying a Yak-52? ...say 100
hours of flying per year?
-Bill VonDane
www.vondane.com
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Jim Ivey" <jim(at)jimivey.com> |
| Subject: | Can your Yak do this?? |
Holy crap! I don't know if I'd be in the mood for a victory roll with that
much adrenaline in my system.
That fellow had to have touched, right?
Jim
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of
> Janet Davidson
> Sent: Monday, May 17, 2004 8:25 PM
> To: yak-list(at)matronics.com
> Subject: Yak-List: Can your Yak do this??
>
>
>
> http://www.stevesairshow.com/videos/jsoh04/jsoh04-yak-close.rm
>
>
> Ph: 920 232 9238
> email: gbvfx(at)hotmail.com
>
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| From: | Dave Laird <dave(at)davelaird.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Can your Yak do this?? |
On May 18, 2004, at 11:13 AM, Jim Ivey wrote:
>
> Holy crap! I don't know if I'd be in the mood for a victory roll with
> that
> much adrenaline in my system.
>
> That fellow had to have touched, right?
>
> Jim
>
I could barely watch that video.... it made me kinda sick to my
stomach.... during the roll i was looking to see if any parts were
being shed or at least a bunch of paint scraped off! I wonder if
another camera angle will surface?
Dave Laird
N63536 1983 CJ6A "Betty"
Dallas
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "DaBear" <dabear(at)damned.org> |
| Subject: | Re: Cost of ownership... |
Looking back at costs for both my Yak-52 and my CJ6, I use the following as
base budget (exclusive of upgrades and cost of purchase). I'd like to see
what others are using or getting.
Hourly Expenses
Gas (2.85/gal) 13/hour 37.05
Oil (2.23/quart) 0.5/hour 1.15
Per Hour Total 38.16
Annual @ 100 Hours 3816.50
Fixed Costs
Hanger (400/month) 12 4,800
Insurance (1800/year) 1 1,800
Annual 6,600
Per Hour @ 100 Hours 66.00
Maintenance
Annual 2,000
Oil Change (2.23 * 20) 44.60
Misc (brakes, etc.) 500
Annual 2633.80
Per Hour @ 100 Hours 26.34
Reserve
Engine (new M14P- 22,000) 22,000
Prop (New MT Prop - 12,500) 12,500
Per Hour @ 1500 Hours 23.00
$153.50 Total Hour Rate Including Reserve
$130.50 Total Hourly Rate Exclusive of Reserve
$64.50 Total Hourly Rate Esclusive of Reserve & Fixed Costs
Note: Your milege may vary. Weight before cooking. Professional Driver on
a closed course, do not attempt. Past performance does not indicate future
earnings. 14grams Fat per serving; 187,500 servings per container.
Contains natural and un-natural flavors. Void where prohibitted....
Al
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bill VonDane" <bill(at)vondane.com>
Subject: Yak-List: Coat of ownership...
>
> Anyone ever worked out the cost of owning and flying a Yak-52? ...say 100
> hours of flying per year?
>
> -Bill VonDane
> www.vondane.com
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "DaBear" <dabear(at)damned.org> |
| Subject: | Re: home from All RedStar |
I'm sure I'm not alone in sitting at home this past week and wishing I was
at ARS. Sure is difficult to go to work each day, knowing friends and
potential friends are out on the west coast having a great time. So I'd
like to fling insults to all those who went to ARS, but I can't. :-)
I'm sure initial reports like this are just the tip of the iceberg and that
everyone had a great time. I'm looking forward to hearing more about it
over the next few days and when I see folks at future clinics. Congrats to
Barry and all the rest who worked really hard to get this done. Clearly
ARS's success for the 3 strait time is an indication of the fun that people
had so pilots keep coming back and drag more to the ARS each time. Take a
well deserved rest, open a cold one, and smile knowing you did a job well
done.
Al
----- Original Message -----
From: <cjpilot710(at)aol.com>
Subject: Yak-List: home from All RedStar
>
> Troops,
> Stumbled into bed last night (2300hrs) after airlineing home from All
RedStar
> at MER. Bushed. I had radio problems with my CJ and was just getting
over a
> bad cold, so I went out the easy way. Anyway I had very good time out
there.
> It was nice to see old friends, meet some new ones, and fly.
>
> I got to fly some really nice airplanes as IIB ("instructor in back") to
> FNGs. We have some good talent coming up. What was really great was
seeing some
> 30+ CJ-6s and 20 or so Yaks. There was a bunch of Yak-50 there this time
as
> well as TWs. Interesting was Drew's Yak-50 Serial Number 1. It had been
built
> with flush riveted wings and had less than 100 hours on it when Drew got
it.
>
> At one point there were 4 Yak-11s, 2 L-29s, 2 L-39s, 1 Yak-9, 1 Mig-17 &
> Mig-21. Let me tell you there is nothing like watching Mig-21 crossing
your 6
> o-clock!
>
> Lots of CJ-6s there with the new "Malcolm" hood that Bill Blackwell will
> swear will get you "5kts". ;-} I had not seen one before and didn't find
it
> objectionable. It gives the "vertically challenged" pilots a lot more
head room
> and allows the seat to move up to the top of its adjustment for a better
view on
> landing and still wear a helment. Also saw a number of CJs with the new
large
> fuel bladder tanks. These add a little over 10 to 11 gals per side,
without
> extensive wing work.
>
> I was the formation judge and got to present the trophy to the "Bay
Bombers".
> They beat the "Vagra" pilots alias "Big Dicks" by just 21 points. The
"Big
> Dicks" "Showmanship" part of their routine was to immolate the
Thunderbirds
> startup. I give them 200 points but docked them 75 for "sloppiness". The
"Bay
> Bombers" pulled a diamond brake for the landing which was almost perfect
> except for spacing on the final. The "Big Dick" guys did a fan brake,
that was a
> little ragged but had perfect spacing though the approach and touch down.
>
> A lot of work went into this by Barry, Drew, Amy, "Postal" and a bunch of
> instant volunteers. The Discovery channel was there and the event will be
on the
> first show of the new season, in a few months.
>
> Well done Barry. Very well done.
>
>
> Jim Goolsby
>
> "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little safety,
> deserve neither liberty nor safety"
> Benjamin Franklin 1759
> "With my shield, or on it"
> Trojan Warriors BC
> "The reason older men are like fine wine. When young, they are like
grapes
> until some woman stomps all over them."
> Unknown older man.
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "jay reiter" <jmreiter(at)adelphia.net> |
I finally got around to install the viewer. What does that guy do for an encore
to keep them coming back for more?
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "DaBear" <dabear(at)damned.org> |
| Subject: | Re: Can your Yak do this?? |
Talked to the Sean this afternoon. It is his yak-9 flown by someone else
that had the close call. There is a little valley in between the runways
at Andrews so it actually didn't touch, but it was a very close call.
Airplane and pilot are ok. Both need a little cleaning in certain places.
Al
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dave Laird" <dave(at)davelaird.com>
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Can your Yak do this??
>
>
> On May 18, 2004, at 11:13 AM, Jim Ivey wrote:
>
> >
> > Holy crap! I don't know if I'd be in the mood for a victory roll with
> > that
> > much adrenaline in my system.
> >
> > That fellow had to have touched, right?
> >
> > Jim
> >
>
>
> I could barely watch that video.... it made me kinda sick to my
> stomach.... during the roll i was looking to see if any parts were
> being shed or at least a bunch of paint scraped off! I wonder if
> another camera angle will surface?
>
> Dave Laird
> N63536 1983 CJ6A "Betty"
> Dallas
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Terry Calloway" <TCalloway(at)datatechnique.com> |
In a "Let's see who can go the lowest" contest the winner is unavailable
for comment. :)
tc
>>> jmreiter(at)adelphia.net 5/18/2004 1:52:23 PM >>>
I finally got around to install the viewer. What does that guy do for
an encore to keep them coming back for more?
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Doug Sapp" <rvfltd(at)televar.com> |
Terry,
I have all the air hoses new. Sorry I could not have answered sooner, but I
was at Red Star. I also now have bulk lengths of oil and gas line hose from
China.
Always Yakin,
Doug Sapp
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com]On Behalf Of Terry Lewis
Subject: Yak-List: flex gear lines
Hi All,
I am going to change the gear flex lines on my CJ and reuse the
original Chinese end fittings.
I know several of you have done this in the past and I need some advise.
What I need to know is what type of hose you used i.e.. brand name or
part number and what size did you use? I.D. an O.D.
Thanks,
Terry Lewis
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| From: | "Frank Haertlein" <yak52driver(at)earthlink.net> |
Barry;
I know George Lazic also flew with Oleg. Not sure he is part of the list
but if anyone knows his email addy or phone number I'd sure like to get
it. He's based at Van Nuys.
Frank
N911OM
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| From: | "Doug Sapp" <rvfltd(at)televar.com> |
| Subject: | Gear width measurement needed |
Kendal,
A CJ6 is 112 inches center to center on the wheels and 11 feet, 3 inches
wide side to side. Highway width regs differ state to state and will
determine rather or not you will need a pilot car or not. Here in WA we
have to have a pilot car, or tip it up on edge. Check your regs if you are
moving it through several states, it could be real embarrassing (and
expensive) to get caught mid move by a over zealous state trooper with a
tape measure and have to rent a crane and repack it.
Good luck, feel free to contact me if you need further help.
Always Yakin,
Doug Sapp
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com]On Behalf Of Kendel McCarley
Subject: Yak-List: Gear width measurement needed
I need to modify a trailer to pickup a CJ-6 project and bring it home. Can
someone please tell me the width of the gear; both center-to-center of the
tires and the space between the innermost parts?
Thanks.
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Kendel McCarley <kmmccarley(at)earthlink.net> |
| Subject: | Gear width measurement needed |
Thanks. Any idea what inside to inside gear clearance is? Things have to sit
between the gear (like the rails of the trailer).
Looks like all the states I'll be hitting require a pilot car at twelve feet width.
Every state has different rules.
-----Original Message-----
From: Doug Sapp <rvfltd(at)televar.com>
Subject: RE: Yak-List: Gear width measurement needed
Kendal,
A CJ6 is 112 inches center to center on the wheels and 11 feet, 3 inches
wide side to side. Highway width regs differ state to state and will
determine rather or not you will need a pilot car or not. Here in WA we
have to have a pilot car, or tip it up on edge. Check your regs if you are
moving it through several states, it could be real embarrassing (and
expensive) to get caught mid move by a over zealous state trooper with a
tape measure and have to rent a crane and repack it.
Good luck, feel free to contact me if you need further help.
Always Yakin,
Doug Sapp
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com]On Behalf Of Kendel McCarley
Subject: Yak-List: Gear width measurement needed
I need to modify a trailer to pickup a CJ-6 project and bring it home. Can
someone please tell me the width of the gear; both center-to-center of the
tires and the space between the innermost parts?
Thanks.
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Frank Haertlein" <yak52driver(at)earthlink.net> |
| Subject: | Fitting to air up a YAK52 |
Yaksters;
Here's some ideas on mounting, tapping and using Schrader valves/strut
valves.
http://home.earthlink.net/~yak52driver/valve.html
Frank
N9110M
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| From: | "A. Dennis Savarese" <adsavar(at)gte.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Fitting to air up a YAK52 |
Excellent Frank. As you've shown, as long as one removes the back of the
air fitting inside the fuselage before drilling and tapping, then there
shouldn't be any metal shavings induced into the line. As an alternative
though, one could also drill and tap the cover for the Schrader valve which
then also permits the use of an original Russian fitting when the cover is
removed. RTV a thin O-ring on the inside of the cover around the Schrader
valve and you will have the same functionality as the original Russian
fitting. Also takes significantly less time to accomplish.
Dennis
----- Original Message -----
From: "Frank Haertlein" <yak52driver(at)earthlink.net>
Subject: RE: Yak-List: Fitting to air up a YAK52
>
> Yaksters;
> Here's some ideas on mounting, tapping and using Schrader valves/strut
> valves.
> http://home.earthlink.net/~yak52driver/valve.html
> Frank
> N9110M
>
>
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| From: | ByronMFox(at)aol.com |
| Subject: | A portion of Sabrina's note to Mary |
I know Steve and Blitz are off at flying camp having a ball, so give my best
to Blitz when he gets back!
Mary, hope all is well with you.
Love, Sabrina
"Hello Mudda. Hello Fadda" So, whadda ya think? Should Drew & Barry
consider changing the name to All Red Star Flying Camp? While Sabrina's slip
is a
bit Freudian, it's close to the mark. ...Blitz
Byron M. Fox
Mill Valley, CA
Nanchang CJ-6A
N221YK
415-307-2405
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | ByronMFox(at)aol.com |
| Subject: | Great Red Star representation at El Centro |
http://elcentro.airshowjournal.com/2004/
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| From: | "Frank Haertlein" <yak52driver(at)earthlink.net> |
| Subject: | Top Cowl for YAK-52 |
Yaksters,
Got a friend building a Skybolt with an M14P in it. He needs an old,
junk top cowling. Anyone got one laying around the hanger collecting
dust?
Frank
N911OM
YAK-52
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| From: | "Mark Schrick" <schrick(at)pacbell.net> |
| Subject: | Top Cowl for YAK-52 |
I have one. Does it want it for a mold?
********************************************************************
Mark Schrick
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Frank Haertlein
Subject: Yak-List: Top Cowl for YAK-52
Yaksters,
Got a friend building a Skybolt with an M14P in it. He needs an old,
junk top cowling. Anyone got one laying around the hanger collecting
dust?
Frank
N911OM
YAK-52
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com |
| Subject: | Top Cowl for YAK-52 |
Frank, I don't have that but I do have an almost complete set of gills if he needs
them.
Gus
-----Original Message-----
From: Frank Haertlein
Date: 5/20/04 8:54 am
Subj: Yak-List: Top Cowl for YAK-52
Yaksters,
Got a friend building a Skybolt with an M14P in it. He needs an old,
junk top cowling. Anyone got one laying around the hanger collecting
dust?
Frank
N911OM
YAK-52
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Bitterlich GS11 Mark G <BitterlichMG(at)cherrypoint.usmc.mil> |
| Subject: | Top Cowl for YAK-52 |
I have a 52 top cowl, but I would not exactly call it "junk".... of course
it is far from "brand new" too!
Frank, have your friend send me a message at:
bitterlichmg(at)cherrypoint.usmc.mil or
mgb(at)jcs.mil
Put: wa3jpy (lower case) in the subject line... it forces the host to
bypass all filters.
Regards,
Mark
YAK-50 N50YK
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com]
Subject: RE: Yak-List: Top Cowl for YAK-52
Frank, I don't have that but I do have an almost complete set of gills if he
needs them.
Gus
-----Original Message-----
From: Frank Haertlein
Date: 5/20/04 8:54 am
Subj: Yak-List: Top Cowl for YAK-52
Yaksters,
Got a friend building a Skybolt with an M14P in it. He needs an old,
junk top cowling. Anyone got one laying around the hanger collecting
dust?
Frank
N911OM
YAK-52
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | <aapilot(at)adelphia.net> |
Folks,
Thanks to all who participated, and especially the volunteer instructors, ground
folks and the rest at ARS III at Castle last week.
Now, how about that first annual All Red Star East in Georgtown DE (KGED) in the
spring of 2005? If you're interested in that event, head to Georgetown for
their fly- in coming fast in late June where were going to "test the landscape"
for 05...
Drew
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Re: RPA and ARS III |
| From: | Jay Land <jland(at)popeandland.com> |
This Reb is going to see how the Yankees put on a show. ARS was depressing
with out a plane!
Any other Rebs heading up there?
Y'all did a great job at Castle.
Jay
> From: <aapilot(at)adelphia.net>
> Reply-To: yak-list(at)matronics.com
> Date: Thu, 20 May 2004 20:43:52 -0400
> To:
> Subject: Yak-List: RPA and ARS III
>
>
> Folks,
>
> Thanks to all who participated, and especially the volunteer instructors,
> ground folks and the rest at ARS III at Castle last week.
>
> Now, how about that first annual All Red Star East in Georgtown DE (KGED) in
> the spring of 2005? If you're interested in that event, head to Georgetown
> for their fly- in coming fast in late June where were going to "test the
> landscape" for 05...
>
> Drew
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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subject
| Subject: | Re: Top Cowl for YAK-52 - Email found in |
subject
| From: | Jay Land <jland(at)popeandland.com> |
I've got a top cowl for a CJ6
> From: "Frank Haertlein" <yak52driver(at)earthlink.net>
> Reply-To:
> Date: Thu, 20 May 2004 05:54:08 -0700
> To:
> Subject: [SPAM] - Yak-List: Top Cowl for YAK-52 - Email found in subject
>
>
> Yaksters,
> Got a friend building a Skybolt with an M14P in it. He needs an old,
> junk top cowling. Anyone got one laying around the hanger collecting
> dust?
>
> Frank
> N911OM
> YAK-52
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Mark Schrick" <schrick(at)pacbell.net> |
| Subject: | NEW fancy REDSTAR wheel chocks for the YAK/ CJ6 / Jets !!!!! |
Hey Yakers,
Go to : http://www.2genesaviation.com/yak5.shtml check it out!
2 Genes Aviation at South County Airport (Q99) has come up with some really
nice
wheel chokes for the Yak/CJ6 to carry for airshows or just on the ramp. They
can be
mounted in your aircraft for quick use or stack easy in your flight bag.
These are the guys that came up with
the "bullet proof" FOD kit for the Yak 52 and Yak 50 (YES, they are
different). Go to the website and check it out.
They also do the flight cameras for your vertical tail.
http://www.2genesaviation.com/yak5.shtml
I just bought a pair and they are "first class" and safe to carry in your
plane.
Thought I would pass it along.
Mark Schrick
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Goose neck filler question |
| From: | Don Boardman <dboardm3(at)twcny.rr.com> |
Hi All,
I recently purchased a gooseneck hose coupling from ACS to use with the
schrader valve to fill my air tank. I have not tried to use it yet. Don't
have a fill tank yet. There is no structure in the end of the gooseneck hose
coupling to push in the stem of the schrader valve. How does it work without
something to push in the stem? Does pressure from the fill tank push in the
stem?
Thanks,
Don Boardman
N622D Double Duce Delta Moose
#130 M-14PF 400HP, MT-Prop/Beta, Aerocet 3500 amphibs
Delta Lake, Rome, NY
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Doug Sapp" <rvfltd(at)televar.com> |
| Subject: | Goose neck filler question |
Don,
If you have what is called a Dill valve then yes the pressure pushes the
Schrader valve stem inward. Don't worry it will work fine.
Always Yakin,
Doug Sapp
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com]On Behalf Of Don Boardman
Subject: Yak-List: Goose neck filler question
Hi All,
I recently purchased a gooseneck hose coupling from ACS to use with the
schrader valve to fill my air tank. I have not tried to use it yet. Don't
have a fill tank yet. There is no structure in the end of the gooseneck hose
coupling to push in the stem of the schrader valve. How does it work without
something to push in the stem? Does pressure from the fill tank push in the
stem?
Thanks,
Don Boardman
N622D Double Duce Delta Moose
#130 M-14PF 400HP, MT-Prop/Beta, Aerocet 3500 amphibs
Delta Lake, Rome, NY
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Joe Howse <joeh(at)shaw.ca> |
| Subject: | Filler connection for air fill |
1.0 FAKE_HELO_SHAW_CA Host HELO did not match rDNS": shaw.ca(at)matronics.com
For the CJ6 at least no schraeder is neccessary at the fill point, there is a check
valve in the system.
Joe
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Graeme Frew" <gfrew(at)attglobal.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Top Cowl for YAK-52 - Email found in subject |
Jay,
What condition is it in. I would be interested if it is serviceable. Could
you send a photo off group.
Regards
Graeme Frew
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jay Land" <jland(at)popeandland.com>
Subject: Re: [SPAM] - Yak-List: Top Cowl for YAK-52 - Email found in subject
>
> I've got a top cowl for a CJ6
>
> > From: "Frank Haertlein" <yak52driver(at)earthlink.net>
> > Reply-To:
> > Date: Thu, 20 May 2004 05:54:08 -0700
> > To:
> > Subject: [SPAM] - Yak-List: Top Cowl for YAK-52 - Email found in subject
> >
> >
> > Yaksters,
> > Got a friend building a Skybolt with an M14P in it. He needs an old,
> > junk top cowling. Anyone got one laying around the hanger collecting
> > dust?
> >
> > Frank
> > N911OM
> > YAK-52
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "A. Dennis Savarese" <adsavar(at)gte.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Filler connection for air fill |
There is also a check valve on the input port on the Yak 52. The Schrader
valve fitting is used on the 52 because it is getting extremely difficult to
find the original Russian connector that mates with the external air fill
port.
Dennis
----- Original Message -----
From: "Joe Howse" <joeh(at)shaw.ca>
rDNS : shaw.ca(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Yak-List: Filler connection for air fill
>
> For the CJ6 at least no schraeder is neccessary at the fill point, there
is a check valve in the system.
>
> Joe
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Joe Howse <joeh(at)shaw.ca> |
| Subject: | Air fille, nothing fancy |
1.0 FAKE_HELO_SHAW_CA Host HELO did not match rDNS": shaw.ca(at)matronics.com
Tap the filler fitting on the fuselage to to 1/8" IP (remove the the line on the
inside so you do not get swarf in the line).
Install a nipple AN816-4 fitting, then use a filler hose to match. The check valve
in the system will hold the pressure.
Use a AN929 -4 cap to keep the fitting clean.
I have used this on my CJ for 12 years.
Joe
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| From: | "Carl W Hays Enterprises" <yakparts(at)simplyweb.net> |
| Subject: | Yak 52 FOD Design |
Just wanted to clarify the design of the FOD cover for the Yak 52 by 2 Genes Aviation,
that design was actually created by fellow Yak 52 owner, James McClellan
in November 2003. I sent Frank at 2 Genes the plans by James. 2 Genes did,
I believe, design the Yak 50 FOD kit. Frank and Andreas have some quality products
and have really become a hub of maintenance activity on the Yaks - good
guys! I'm anal about details and abhor revisionist history, so I thought I
would set the record straight.
Good day!
Jill
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Mark Schrick" <schrick(at)pacbell.net> |
| Subject: | Yak 52 FOD Design and other neat stuff |
I agree with Jill,
The Yak 52 on my plane is excellent by 2 Genes and it took less than 10
minutes to install. 2 Genes is going to make the FOD cover available on the
RPA website in a few weeks to help everyone obtain this life saving device.
You to their website and check out the other items they are producing (fuel
cap covers, tail camera mounts, FOD covers, clean kits, ADC oil filter install
kits, snot value release kits, light weight chocks, ect...)
Take a look: http://www.2genesaviation.com
Mark "SHREK" Schrick
YAK DRIVER, LLC
Aerostar Dealer of (New) Yak 52TW
Fully Restored USED Yak 52's "We meet anyone's budget!!!
REDSTAR Pilot Assoc. Active member
966 Wallace Drive
San Jose, Ca 95120-1848
Hm/Fax 408-323-5150
Cell 408-391-6664
Email schrick(at)pacbell.net
Website www.YAKDRIVER.com
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Carl W Hays
Enterprises
Subject: Yak-List: Yak 52 FOD Design
Just wanted to clarify the design of the FOD cover for the Yak 52 by 2 Genes
Aviation, that design was actually created by fellow Yak 52 owner, James
McClellan in November 2003. I sent Frank at 2 Genes the plans by James. 2
Genes did, I believe, design the Yak 50 FOD kit. Frank and Andreas have some
quality products and have really become a hub of maintenance activity on the
Yaks - good guys! I'm anal about details and abhor revisionist history, so I
thought I would set the record straight.
Good day!
Jill
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Bob Fitzpatrick <rmfitz(at)direcway.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Yak 52 FOD Design |
Jill,
Thanks for the clarification. Have you heard any feed back from anyone who
has installed one? 2 Genes site was lacking in detail, i only found pictures
and price. It appears the barrier mounts aft of the bulkhead. Where does it
end up if it comes loomse?
bob
----- Original Message -----
From: "Carl W Hays Enterprises" <yakparts(at)simplyweb.net>
To:
Sent: Friday, May 21, 2004 9:15 AM
Subject: Yak-List: Yak 52 FOD Design
>
> Just wanted to clarify the design of the FOD cover for the Yak 52 by 2
Genes Aviation, that design was actually created by fellow Yak 52 owner,
James McClellan in November 2003. I sent Frank at 2 Genes the plans by
James. 2 Genes did, I believe, design the Yak 50 FOD kit. Frank and
Andreas have some quality products and have really become a hub of
maintenance activity on the Yaks - good guys! I'm anal about details and
abhor revisionist history, so I thought I would set the record straight.
>
> Good day!
> Jill
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Ernie Martinez" <ernest.martinez(at)oracle.com> |
| Subject: | Memorial Day@ Leeward |
Jim Plumlee, Jay Land, Rich Hess.
I need to confirm head counts.
Let me know.
Ernie
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| From: | "Frank Haertlein" <yak52driver(at)earthlink.net> |
"'Joe Lansden'" ,
Yaksters;
In talking about the right flat spin of the 52 all I can say is (in the
immortal words of a fellow MIG pilot) is that it "really winds up". I
got the very same impression when flying with Oleg. It really does "wind
up". I got the distinct impression that I had to hold it in to keep it
in the flat spin though the recovery did take a few turns. Anyone want
to interject their impressions? Everything was happening so fast I
couldn't really analyze what was going on except by using "seat of the
pants" impressions. Every other spin recovery seemed conventional for
me except that Oleg kept chastising me to slow down with the
recovery...... "YAK-52 like fine woman, go slow and things work good"..
Did anyone else have that impression?
Another interesting aspect of his training was the "if everything goes
haywire and you don't know what's upside down or rightside up, just pull
off power, hold onto the canopy rails and wait" maneuver. Took me awhile
to get used to that one but sure as hell the 52 found it's nose and
pointed the way back, so to speak. Not sure it would do that from the
flat spin though.
Out of curiosity, does anyone know how he gets you into the Lomchevak? I
think I know but since Oleg's spin entry was unusual for me I wonder if
his Lomchevak entry is different as well? I saw him and George Lazic
above the field tumbling around like crazy. Wished I would have thought
to ask him to show me that maneuver.
Frank
N911OM
YAK52
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| From: | "Frank Haertlein" <yak52driver(at)earthlink.net> |
| Subject: | Filler connection for air fill |
Joe;
The Schrader Valve isn't so much used as a check valve as it is a method
to adapt to standard US air fittings. You are more likely to find
someone using a Schrader valve "goosneck" fitting with their air bottles
than you are going to find someone using the standard Russian fitting.
Best Regards
Frank
N911OM
YAK-52
-----Original Message-----
For the CJ6 at least no schraeder is neccessary at the fill point, there
is a check valve in the system.
Joe
==
direct advertising on the Matronics Forums.
==
==
==
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "A. Dennis Savarese" <adsavar(at)gte.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Filler connection for air fill |
You're right on the money Frank.
Dennis
----- Original Message -----
From: "Frank Haertlein" <yak52driver(at)earthlink.net>
Subject: RE: Yak-List: Filler connection for air fill
>
> Joe;
> The Schrader Valve isn't so much used as a check valve as it is a method
> to adapt to standard US air fittings. You are more likely to find
> someone using a Schrader valve "goosneck" fitting with their air bottles
> than you are going to find someone using the standard Russian fitting.
> Best Regards
> Frank
> N911OM
> YAK-52
>
> -----Original Message-----
> For the CJ6 at least no schraeder is neccessary at the fill point, there
> is a check valve in the system.
>
> Joe
>
>
> ==
> direct advertising on the Matronics Forums.
> ==
> ==
> ==
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Mark Jefferies YAK UK Ltd" <mark(at)yakuk.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Filler connection for air fill |
Dennis, you don't need to "find" these parts, just order them from the factory
they are in current production. OK it takes 60 days but then again Cessna take
6 months or more.
If Aerostar is supported with orders they will stay in business to the benefit
of all, I strongly support and recommend that all dealers use the OEM for this
reason.
Some parts you will not be able to "fix" and have to purchase, if the OEM is out
of business then you really are stuck.
Cheers, MJ
There is also a check valve on the input port on the Yak 52. The Schrader
valve fitting is used on the 52 because it is getting extremely difficult
to
find the original Russian connector that mates with the external air fill
port.
Dennis
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Mark Jefferies YAK UK Ltd" <mark(at)yakuk.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Yak 52 FOD Design |
But these designs seam to forget the access to the "danger area" of the 2 lightening
holes where the trim cable passes through. This HAS BEEN KNOW to allow a
fuel drain screwdriver to get to the crank arm. also with respect the design
that's been offered for sale will let pens and coins through so is it worth it.
Both those items mentioned will jam a crank arm, espec a steel pen as has been
proved.
If anyone wants a free design simple to install just take all the drawings from my web site. www.yakuk.com/mpd.htm its a ceconite barrier glued in place, the site give dimensional drawings.
Cheers, MJ
Just wanted to clarify the design of the FOD cover for the Yak 52 by 2 Genes
Aviation,
that design was actually created by fellow Yak 52 owner, James McClellan
in November 2003. I sent Frank at 2 Genes the plans by James. 2 Genes did,
I believe, design the Yak 50 FOD kit. Frank and Andreas have some quality
products
and have really become a hub of maintenance activity on the Yaks - good
guys! I'm anal about details and abhor revisionist history, so I thought
I
would set the record straight.
Good day!
Jill
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Ernie Martinez" <ernest.martinez(at)oracle.com> |
Has anyone got an email or phone number for Rich Hess???
Ernie
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | cjpilot710(at)aol.com |
| Subject: | Re: Email address |
In a message dated 5/22/2004 1:31:33 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
ernest.martinez(at)oracle.com writes:
> Has anyone got an email or phone number for Rich Hess???
>
> Ernie
>
>
>
Yep. 770-975-8328 or 404-964-4885.
Jim Goolsby
"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little safety,
deserve neither liberty nor safety"
Benjamin Franklin 1759
"With my shield, or on it"
Trojan Warriors BC
"The reason older men are like fine wine. When young, they are like grapes
until some woman stomps all over them."
Unknown older man.
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Barry Hancock <radialpower(at)cox.net> |
Gang,
Check out Allen Silver's home page for photos of ARS III. Thanks to
Allen for another great year. He packed a ton of chutes and gave
another great emergency egress presentation.
http://www.pia.com/silver/
Cheers,
Barry
Barry Hancock
Event Director
All Red Star 2004
(949) 300-5510
www.allredstar.com
"Communism - Lousy Politics, Great Airplanes!"
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "David Stroud" <davestroud(at)rogers.com> |
| Subject: | Housai engine part Id. required.. |
Would someone please say what accessory would normally go on the rear, left side
of a Housai engine just in front of the air distributor, please? I'm welding up
a mount
and if that accessory is more than 4 inches long, it will interfere with a mount
strut
attaching to the ring at about the 8 o'clock position. The only cover I can find
for it
in my pile of parts that fits ok, may be missing a drive gear and looks suspiciously
like a
tach generator drive. The cover is a four bolt, square plate about 3" across. Thanks.
David Stroud, Ottawa, Canada
Christavia C-FDWS
Fairchild 51 early construction
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| From: | "Jim Selby" <jimscjs(at)mbay.net> |
| Subject: | Housai engine part Id. required.. |
Dave, If the mount I'm thinking of it not used, it has a plate over it, It
must have been used on some other application.
Jim Selby
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From: owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com]On Behalf Of David Stroud
Subject: Yak-List: Housai engine part Id. required..
Would someone please say what accessory would normally go on the rear, left
side
of a Housai engine just in front of the air distributor, please? I'm welding
up a mount
and if that accessory is more than 4 inches long, it will interfere with a
mount strut
attaching to the ring at about the 8 o'clock position. The only cover I can
find for it
in my pile of parts that fits ok, may be missing a drive gear and looks
suspiciously like a
tach generator drive. The cover is a four bolt, square plate about 3"
across. Thanks.
David Stroud, Ottawa, Canada
Christavia C-FDWS
Fairchild 51 early construction
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| From: | cjpilot710(at)aol.com |
| Subject: | Re: Housai engine part Id. required.. |
In a message dated 5/22/2004 8:55:52 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
davestroud(at)rogers.com writes:
> Would someone please say what accessory would normally go on the rear, left
> side
> of a Housai engine just in front of the air distributor, please? I'm welding
> up a mount
> and if that accessory is more than 4 inches long, it will interfere with a
> mount strut
> attaching to the ring at about the 8 o'clock position. The only cover I can
> find for it
> in my pile of parts that fits ok, may be missing a drive gear and looks
> suspiciously like a
> tach generator drive. The cover is a four bolt, square plate about 3"
> across. Thanks.
>
>
Good question. On the M-14p it's where the tach generator is mounted and the
HS-6 cover plate fits it exactly. My HS-6 only had a cover plate there also.
Would be a good spot to mount a vacuum pump.
Jim Goolsby
"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little safety,
deserve neither liberty nor safety"
Benjamin Franklin 1759
"With my shield, or on it"
Trojan Warriors BC
"The reason older men are like fine wine. When young, they are like grapes
until some woman stomps all over them."
Unknown older man.
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Walt Lannon" <wlannon(at)cablerocket.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Housai engine part Id. required.. |
David;
The Polish AI14R manual shows this mount pad for an auxiliary oil pump. I
think this means a vacuum pump in our terminology. The AI14R is basically
identical to the Huosai 6 (260HP).
Walt
----- Original Message -----
From: "David Stroud" <davestroud(at)rogers.com>
Subject: Yak-List: Housai engine part Id. required..
>
> Would someone please say what accessory would normally go on the rear,
left side
> of a Housai engine just in front of the air distributor, please? I'm
welding up a mount
> and if that accessory is more than 4 inches long, it will interfere with a
mount strut
> attaching to the ring at about the 8 o'clock position. The only cover I
can find for it
> in my pile of parts that fits ok, may be missing a drive gear and looks
suspiciously like a
> tach generator drive. The cover is a four bolt, square plate about 3"
across. Thanks.
>
> David Stroud, Ottawa, Canada
> Christavia C-FDWS
> Fairchild 51 early construction
>
>
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| From: | cjpilot710(at)aol.com |
| Subject: | Re: Housai engine part Id. required.. |
In a message dated 5/22/2004 10:08:02 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
wlannon(at)cablerocket.com writes:
> David;
> The Polish AI14R manual shows this mount pad for an auxiliary oil pump. I
> think this means a vacuum pump in our terminology. The AI14R is basically
> identical to the Huosai 6 (260HP).
> Walt
>
I once had to change an exhaust valve in my Housai 6. The exhaust valve from
the AI14R and the valve guide are exactly the same. The Housai 6 (260 hp)
top rockers however are not oil fed. Every 25 hours, the rockers had to be
greased. I found that was OK for the intake rockers but I would grease the
exhaust rockers every 10 hours, because they tented to be pretty dry at 25.
Jim Goolsby
"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little safety,
deserve neither liberty nor safety"
Benjamin Franklin 1759
"With my shield, or on it"
Trojan Warriors BC
"The reason older men are like fine wine. When young, they are like grapes
until some woman stomps all over them."
Unknown older man.
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Frank Stelwagon" <pfstelwagon(at)earthlink.net> |
If you look at old US radials you will usually find a vacuum pump mounted there.
I guess if you copy you have to copy the whole thing. Since the CJs don't
use any vacuum instruments they just blanked it off, and put the mount in the
way.
Frank
CJ6-A N23021
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| From: | "Walt Lannon" <wlannon(at)cablerocket.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Housai engine part Id. required.. |
Jim;
I stand to be corrected here but I think the greased rocker engine was the
Huosai 5. It's max. RPM was 2250, different oil sump than the 6 or 6A and
max. HP either 220 or 240. I think this was the first CJ6 engine that proved
to be unacceptable.
The -6 is the engine described in the body of the Tech. Specs. manual with
an addendum showing the -6A differences. Externally the 6 and 6A look
identical, to differentiate one needed to check the data plate or the carb.
model number. Both have pressure lubed rockers for all cylinders.
Cheers;
Walt
>
> I once had to change an exhaust valve in my Housai 6. The exhaust valve
from
> the AI14R and the valve guide are exactly the same. The Housai 6 (260 hp)
> top rockers however are not oil fed. Every 25 hours, the rockers had to
be
> greased. I found that was OK for the intake rockers but I would grease
the
> exhaust rockers every 10 hours, because they tented to be pretty dry at
25.
>
> Jim Goolsby
>
> "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little safety,
> deserve neither liberty nor safety"
> Benjamin Franklin 1759
> "With my shield, or on it"
> Trojan Warriors BC
> "The reason older men are like fine wine. When young, they are like
grapes
> until some woman stomps all over them."
> Unknown older man.
>
>
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| From: | Joe Howse <joeh(at)shaw.ca> |
| Subject: | Re: Housai engine part Id. required.. |
The pad described is the same as on the M14P which is for the tach
generator, hole centers appear to be the same. However the M14P tach. gen.
cannot be used with the CJ6 engine mounts.
The H6A engine uses a tach. drive piggy-backed on the air distributor valve.
Joe
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| From: | "Frank Haertlein" <yak52driver(at)earthlink.net> |
Yaksters,
I'm replacing my fuel and oil hoses. OK, so now I have them out of the
airplane and disassembled. Problem is I'm not sure of the hose sizes to
use. I'm thinking Aeroquip 303 hose might work but not sure of the
correct sizing given the metric end fittings. Anyone got suggestions on
the correct size of the hoses? I'm replacing all the hoses so I would
need suggestions for all the different sizes.
Thanks in advance
Frank
N911OM
YAK-52
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| From: | "Doug Sapp" <rvfltd(at)televar.com> |
Frank, why don't you tell me how many feet of each you need and I'll cut if
off my roll of bulk metric hose. I won't tell anybody that you have Chinese
hose in your 52, and I doubt the aircraft will know the difference. Send me
a small piece of each and I'll match them up for sure.
Always Yakin,
Doug Sapp
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com]On Behalf Of Frank Haertlein
Subject: Yak-List: Hoses
Yaksters,
I'm replacing my fuel and oil hoses. OK, so now I have them out of the
airplane and disassembled. Problem is I'm not sure of the hose sizes to
use. I'm thinking Aeroquip 303 hose might work but not sure of the
correct sizing given the metric end fittings. Anyone got suggestions on
the correct size of the hoses? I'm replacing all the hoses so I would
need suggestions for all the different sizes.
Thanks in advance
Frank
N911OM
YAK-52
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Kelley Monroe" <kelmonroe(at)comcast.net> |
| Subject: | strut filling tool for nanchangs and yaks |
I HAVE HAD 40 STRUT FILLING TOOLS MADE. THERE MADE OUT OF 303 STAINLESS AND FIT
IN A 35MM FILM CONTAINER. ALL THE STRUTS FOR NANCHANGES, YAKS, L29S AND L39S
CAN BE FILLED USING THIS TOOLS. FILLING INSTRUCTIONS ARE : REMOVE METRIC FILLER
CAP FROM STRUT, INSTALL TOOL, FILL STRUT, REMOVE TOOL AND INSTALL METRIC FILLER
CAP. ANYONE THAT IS INTERESTED THE COST IS $125.00 INCLUDING SHIPPING.
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Ernie Martinez" <ernest.martinez(at)oracle.com> |
| Subject: | strut filling tool for nanchangs and yaks |
And how do you measure the strut pressure?
Ernie
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Kelley Monroe
Subject: Yak-List: strut filling tool for nanchangs and yaks
I HAVE HAD 40 STRUT FILLING TOOLS MADE. THERE MADE OUT OF 303 STAINLESS
AND FIT IN A 35MM FILM CONTAINER. ALL THE STRUTS FOR NANCHANGES, YAKS,
L29S AND L39S CAN BE FILLED USING THIS TOOLS. FILLING INSTRUCTIONS ARE :
REMOVE METRIC FILLER CAP FROM STRUT, INSTALL TOOL, FILL STRUT, REMOVE
TOOL AND INSTALL METRIC FILLER CAP. ANYONE THAT IS INTERESTED THE COST
IS $125.00 INCLUDING SHIPPING.
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| From: | "Jerry Painter" <wild.blue(at)verizon.net> |
| Subject: | RE: Yak-List Digest: 15 Msgs - 05/22/04 |
Frank,
In many cases you can use US hoses and US fittings if you use the metric nut
off the old fitting on a US fitting instead of the US nut on the US fitting.
However, the hoses are slightly different (wall thickness, stiffness etc)
and so are the fittings (US fittings are often longer). In some cases
because of bend radii etc, they can be difficult to fit properly. One
advantage of the US hoses and fittings is you'll know they are new and of
course are available anywhere.
Jerry Painter
Wild Blue Aviation
From: "Frank Haertlein" <yak52driver(at)earthlink.net>
Subject: Yak-List: Hoses
-->
Yaksters,
I'm replacing my fuel and oil hoses. OK, so now I have them out of the
airplane and disassembled. Problem is I'm not sure of the hose sizes to use.
I'm thinking Aeroquip 303 hose might work but not sure of the correct sizing
given the metric end fittings. Anyone got suggestions on the correct size of
the hoses? I'm replacing all the hoses so I would need suggestions for all
the different sizes.
Thanks in advance
Frank
N911OM
YAK-52
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| From: | "Jerry Painter" <wild.blue(at)verizon.net> |
Marks, George, Bill, Doug, Colin, Joe et al,
One of my many frustrations with Aerostar from the days when I was one of
their dealers was the difficulty (i.e., impossibility) of getting parts or
data from them. The factory was invariably unresponsive, parts and data
were unavailable, prices unknown, shipment date god knows when etc. Mostly
they expressed amazement in my interest in such things--i.e., why wouldn't I
just ship the airplanes to them for maintenance and repair? I hope this has
been rectified. I'm sure many of us would welcome their active support and
would reciprocate.
MJ--Thanks for calling attention to your web site's excellent pictures etc
of what we would call Service Bulletins and Airworthiness Directives. As
I'm sure you're well aware there is continuing confusion because of lack of
information. The factory would never provide me with anything more than a
bulletin list--no text, parts or dwgs--making compliance impossible. Can
you provide full text etc? Your compliance calculator is pretty clever.
Does anyone have comparable data for CJ's? Eaglet? Not to question any of
your estimable services, but if you get hit by a truck we're all gonna be up
the creek--it would be nice if there was a hint of a semblance of factory
data and support. This list is a poor substitute (helpful as it is). Help!
Jerry Painter
Wild Blue Aviation
From: "Mark Jefferies YAK UK Ltd" <mark(at)yakuk.com>
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Filler connection for air fill
-->
Dennis, you don't need to "find" these parts, just order them from the
factory they are in current production. OK it takes 60 days but then again
Cessna take 6 months or more.
If Aerostar is supported with orders they will stay in business to the
benefit of all, I strongly support and recommend that all dealers use the
OEM for this reason.
Some parts you will not be able to "fix" and have to purchase, if the OEM is
out of business then you really are stuck.
Cheers, MJ
________________________________ Message 2
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From: "Mark Jefferies YAK UK Ltd" <mark(at)yakuk.com>
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Yak 52 FOD Design
-->
But these designs seam to forget the access to the "danger area" of the 2
lightening holes where the trim cable passes through. This HAS BEEN KNOW to
allow a fuel drain screwdriver to get to the crank arm. also with respect
the design that's been offered for sale will let pens and coins through so
is it worth it. Both those items mentioned will jam a crank arm, espec a
steel pen as has been proved.
If anyone wants a free design simple to install just take all the drawings
from my web site. www.yakuk.com/mpd.htm its a ceconite barrier glued in
place, the site give dimensional drawings.
Cheers, MJ
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| From: | cjpilot710(at)aol.com |
| Subject: | Re: Housai engine part Id. required.. |
In a message dated 5/22/2004 11:10:53 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
wlannon(at)cablerocket.com writes:
> Jim;
> I stand to be corrected here but I think the greased rocker engine was the
> Huosai 5. It's max. RPM was 2250, different oil sump than the 6 or 6A and
> max. HP either 220 or 240. I think this was the first CJ6 engine that proved
> to be unacceptable.
> The -6 is the engine described in the body of the Tech. Specs. manual with
> an addendum showing the -6A differences. Externally the 6 and 6A look
> identical, to differentiate one needed to check the data plate or the carb.
> model number. Both have pressure lubed rockers for all cylinders.
> Cheers;
> Walt
>
Walt,
My Nanchang when I bought it was a CJ-6, not a CJ-6A. The engine was HS-6
(260hp) according to its data plate. I never found any oil in the top rockers
and was informed to make sure to keep them greased up. Only the CJ-6 was
produced starting in 1962. In December 1963 they started putting the HS-6A (285hp
and lubed top rockers) into SOME aircraft (than called the CJ-6A) on the
production line. There were a mixed bag of CJ-6 & 6As produced. My airframe was
built in 1969 but was a CJ-6 with the HS-6 (260hp) engine. I've only heard of
one other (CJ-6) coming into the US. Jim Plumly of SC has a 1962 CJ-6, the
oldest that I know of here in the states, however at some point it's engine was
changed to a HS-6A (285) making it CJ-6A.
I've tried on several occasions to get the production history of the CJ-6.
To no avail. At some point the Chinese use spot welding instead of rivets on
the fuselage. I've seen this on some airplanes produced in 1969 and 1972 but
not on 70 or 71. A real mixed bag too. I would like to find which batch in
the production got what modifications. Oh well, maybe someday. :-/
Jim Goolsby
"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little safety,
deserve neither liberty nor safety"
Benjamin Franklin 1759
"With my shield, or on it"
Trojan Warriors BC
"The reason older men are like fine wine. When young, they are like grapes
until some woman stomps all over them."
Unknown older man.
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Jim Selby" <jimscjs(at)mbay.net> |
| Subject: | strut filling tool for nanchangs and yaks |
Ernie
I made one,took a piece of Hex Stainless taped to the strut thread put a
shredder fitting in the other end, put my son on the wing tip to collapse
the strut use my nitrogen bottle fill till strut comes up and shut of tank,
it should have about 700 lbs in the CJ, seems to work fine.
Jim
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com]On Behalf Of Ernie Martinez
Subject: RE: Yak-List: strut filling tool for nanchangs and yaks
And how do you measure the strut pressure?
Ernie
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Kelley Monroe
Subject: Yak-List: strut filling tool for nanchangs and yaks
I HAVE HAD 40 STRUT FILLING TOOLS MADE. THERE MADE OUT OF 303 STAINLESS
AND FIT IN A 35MM FILM CONTAINER. ALL THE STRUTS FOR NANCHANGES, YAKS,
L29S AND L39S CAN BE FILLED USING THIS TOOLS. FILLING INSTRUCTIONS ARE :
REMOVE METRIC FILLER CAP FROM STRUT, INSTALL TOOL, FILL STRUT, REMOVE
TOOL AND INSTALL METRIC FILLER CAP. ANYONE THAT IS INTERESTED THE COST
IS $125.00 INCLUDING SHIPPING.
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| From: | "jay reiter" <jmreiter(at)adelphia.net> |
Jim Bernier has a HS6 torn down that he was thinking of modifying. Jim is very
helpful on the engine with internal engine information.
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| From: | "Kelley Monroe" <kelmonroe(at)comcast.net> |
| Subject: | Re: strut filling tool for nanchangs and yaks |
THE STRUT PRESSURE CAN BE MEASURED WITH A DUAL GAUGE SET-UP ON THE NITRIGEN
TANK. 700PSI ON THE MAINS AND 300PSI ON THE NOSE.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ernie Martinez" <ernest.martinez(at)oracle.com>
Subject: RE: Yak-List: strut filling tool for nanchangs and yaks
>
> And how do you measure the strut pressure?
>
> Ernie
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Kelley Monroe
> To: yak-list(at)matronics.com
> Subject: Yak-List: strut filling tool for nanchangs and yaks
>
>
> I HAVE HAD 40 STRUT FILLING TOOLS MADE. THERE MADE OUT OF 303 STAINLESS
> AND FIT IN A 35MM FILM CONTAINER. ALL THE STRUTS FOR NANCHANGES, YAKS,
> L29S AND L39S CAN BE FILLED USING THIS TOOLS. FILLING INSTRUCTIONS ARE :
> REMOVE METRIC FILLER CAP FROM STRUT, INSTALL TOOL, FILL STRUT, REMOVE
> TOOL AND INSTALL METRIC FILLER CAP. ANYONE THAT IS INTERESTED THE COST
> IS $125.00 INCLUDING SHIPPING.
>
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| From: | "Ernie Martinez" <ernest.martinez(at)oracle.com> |
| Subject: | strut filling tool for nanchangs and yaks |
I have the proper tool with a gauge. The problem with these adapters
with Schrader valves is that you can't measure the pressure in the strut
BEFORE inflation. You are relying on air pressure to push the valve
open. The struts need to be inflated to the proper pressure while up on
jacks with no weight on the gear. Without the proper tool, one cannot
measure the proper pressure in the strut. This is particularly important
in the L-29 which has much higher strut pressures.
The proper strut inflation tool has a valve which screws onto the fill
fitting on the strut. You screw in the valve to depress the plunger in
the fitting, this allows strut pressure to be indicated on the guage. In
order to fill to the proper pressure you open your nitrogen bottle
(which is connected to the device) and allow the strut to fill until the
proper pressure is indicated on the gauge. Then you close the bottle,
then close the valve and depressurize the hose. Then you can SAFELY
remove the adapter from the strut.
Ernie
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim Selby
Subject: RE: Yak-List: strut filling tool for nanchangs and yaks
Ernie
I made one,took a piece of Hex Stainless taped to the strut thread put a
shredder fitting in the other end, put my son on the wing tip to
collapse
the strut use my nitrogen bottle fill till strut comes up and shut of
tank,
it should have about 700 lbs in the CJ, seems to work fine.
Jim
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com]On Behalf Of Ernie Martinez
Subject: RE: Yak-List: strut filling tool for nanchangs and yaks
And how do you measure the strut pressure?
Ernie
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Kelley Monroe
Subject: Yak-List: strut filling tool for nanchangs and yaks
I HAVE HAD 40 STRUT FILLING TOOLS MADE. THERE MADE OUT OF 303 STAINLESS
AND FIT IN A 35MM FILM CONTAINER. ALL THE STRUTS FOR NANCHANGES, YAKS,
L29S AND L39S CAN BE FILLED USING THIS TOOLS. FILLING INSTRUCTIONS ARE :
REMOVE METRIC FILLER CAP FROM STRUT, INSTALL TOOL, FILL STRUT, REMOVE
TOOL AND INSTALL METRIC FILLER CAP. ANYONE THAT IS INTERESTED THE COST
IS $125.00 INCLUDING SHIPPING.
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| From: | "Ernie Martinez" <ernest.martinez(at)oracle.com> |
| Subject: | strut filling tool for nanchangs and yaks |
This doesn't measure strut pressure just tank pressure. The question was
how do you measure the pressure in the strut BEFORE letting nitrogen in.
Ernie
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Kelley Monroe
Subject: Re: Yak-List: strut filling tool for nanchangs and yaks
THE STRUT PRESSURE CAN BE MEASURED WITH A DUAL GAUGE SET-UP ON THE
NITRIGEN
TANK. 700PSI ON THE MAINS AND 300PSI ON THE NOSE.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ernie Martinez" <ernest.martinez(at)oracle.com>
Subject: RE: Yak-List: strut filling tool for nanchangs and yaks
>
> And how do you measure the strut pressure?
>
> Ernie
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Kelley
Monroe
> To: yak-list(at)matronics.com
> Subject: Yak-List: strut filling tool for nanchangs and yaks
>
>
> I HAVE HAD 40 STRUT FILLING TOOLS MADE. THERE MADE OUT OF 303
STAINLESS
> AND FIT IN A 35MM FILM CONTAINER. ALL THE STRUTS FOR NANCHANGES,
YAKS,
> L29S AND L39S CAN BE FILLED USING THIS TOOLS. FILLING INSTRUCTIONS ARE
:
> REMOVE METRIC FILLER CAP FROM STRUT, INSTALL TOOL, FILL STRUT, REMOVE
> TOOL AND INSTALL METRIC FILLER CAP. ANYONE THAT IS INTERESTED THE
COST
> IS $125.00 INCLUDING SHIPPING.
>
>
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| From: | "Ernie Martinez" <ernest.martinez(at)oracle.com> |
| Subject: | strut filling tool for nanchangs and yaks |
I would also like to point out the instructions described in this thread
for using this adapter.
>FILLING INSTRUCTIONS ARE :
> REMOVE METRIC FILLER CAP FROM STRUT, INSTALL TOOL, FILL STRUT, REMOVE
> TOOL
If this procedure were followed, one would have a 75 caliber projectile
with 700 PSI behind it as the poor slob was unscrewing the adapter.
If using one of these adapters, PLEASE make sure to depressurize the
adapter by depressing the Schrader valve until all nitrogen has been
depleted between the adapter and the strut filler plunger.
Ernie
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Kelley Monroe
Subject: Re: Yak-List: strut filling tool for nanchangs and yaks
THE STRUT PRESSURE CAN BE MEASURED WITH A DUAL GAUGE SET-UP ON THE
NITRIGEN
TANK. 700PSI ON THE MAINS AND 300PSI ON THE NOSE.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ernie Martinez" <ernest.martinez(at)oracle.com>
Subject: RE: Yak-List: strut filling tool for nanchangs and yaks
>
> And how do you measure the strut pressure?
>
> Ernie
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Kelley
Monroe
> To: yak-list(at)matronics.com
> Subject: Yak-List: strut filling tool for nanchangs and yaks
>
>
> I HAVE HAD 40 STRUT FILLING TOOLS MADE. THERE MADE OUT OF 303
STAINLESS
> AND FIT IN A 35MM FILM CONTAINER. ALL THE STRUTS FOR NANCHANGES,
YAKS,
> L29S AND L39S CAN BE FILLED USING THIS TOOLS. FILLING INSTRUCTIONS ARE
:
> REMOVE METRIC FILLER CAP FROM STRUT, INSTALL TOOL, FILL STRUT, REMOVE
> TOOL AND INSTALL METRIC FILLER CAP. ANYONE THAT IS INTERESTED THE
COST
> IS $125.00 INCLUDING SHIPPING.
>
>
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| From: | "Kelley Monroe" <kelmonroe(at)comcast.net> |
| Subject: | Re: strut filling tool for nanchangs and yaks |
WITH A DUAL GAUGE SET ON THE NITROGEN TANK WITH A REGULATOR, ONE GAUGE
MEASURES TANK PRESSURE AND THE OTHER GAUGE MEASURES INLET PRESSURE GOING
INTO THE STRUT. THE INLET PRESSURE IS CONTROLLED BY SCREWING IN THE
REGULATOR CONTROL . IF THE PRESSURE IN THE STRUT IS LESS THAN THE REGULATED
PRESSURE GOING INTO IT, THE STRUT VALVE OPENS AND THE PRESSURE SHOWING ON
THE REGULATED GAUGE IS THE SAME PRESSURE IN THE STRUT. THIS TOOL WILL NOT
MEASURE STRUT PREASURE BEFORE LETTING NITROGEN IN. IT ONLY ALLOWS YOU TO
FILL THE STRUTS USING A STANDARD US NITROGEN SET-UP. THE REST IS UP TO THE
OPERATOR.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ernie Martinez" <ernest.martinez(at)oracle.com>
Subject: RE: Yak-List: strut filling tool for nanchangs and yaks
>
> This doesn't measure strut pressure just tank pressure. The question was
> how do you measure the pressure in the strut BEFORE letting nitrogen in.
>
> Ernie
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Kelley Monroe
> To: yak-list(at)matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Yak-List: strut filling tool for nanchangs and yaks
>
>
> THE STRUT PRESSURE CAN BE MEASURED WITH A DUAL GAUGE SET-UP ON THE
> NITRIGEN
> TANK. 700PSI ON THE MAINS AND 300PSI ON THE NOSE.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ernie Martinez" <ernest.martinez(at)oracle.com>
> To:
> Subject: RE: Yak-List: strut filling tool for nanchangs and yaks
>
>
>
> >
> > And how do you measure the strut pressure?
> >
> > Ernie
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com
> > [mailto:owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Kelley
> Monroe
> > To: yak-list(at)matronics.com
> > Subject: Yak-List: strut filling tool for nanchangs and yaks
> >
>
> >
> > I HAVE HAD 40 STRUT FILLING TOOLS MADE. THERE MADE OUT OF 303
> STAINLESS
> > AND FIT IN A 35MM FILM CONTAINER. ALL THE STRUTS FOR NANCHANGES,
> YAKS,
> > L29S AND L39S CAN BE FILLED USING THIS TOOLS. FILLING INSTRUCTIONS ARE
> :
> > REMOVE METRIC FILLER CAP FROM STRUT, INSTALL TOOL, FILL STRUT, REMOVE
> > TOOL AND INSTALL METRIC FILLER CAP. ANYONE THAT IS INTERESTED THE
> COST
> > IS $125.00 INCLUDING SHIPPING.
> >
> >
> > ==
> > ==
> > ==
> > ==
> >
> >
>
>
> ==
> ==
> ==
> ==
>
>
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| From: | "Kelley Monroe" <kelmonroe(at)comcast.net> |
| Subject: | Re: strut filling tool for nanchangs and yaks |
THIS TOOL THREATS ONTO THE OE STRUT FILLER AND DOESN'T HAVE ANY PRESSURE ON
IT BECAUSE THE OE VALVE CLOSES WHEN THE REGULATED PRESSURE IS LESS THAN
STRUT PRESSURE. SO TURN THE REGULATOR KNOB COUNTER CLOCK WISE TO LOWER THE
PRESSURE TO "0" PSI ON THE HOSE GOING TO THE TOO L BEFORE REMOVING IT. THIS
CLOSES THE STRUT VALVE.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ernie Martinez" <ernest.martinez(at)oracle.com>
Subject: RE: Yak-List: strut filling tool for nanchangs and yaks
>
> I would also like to point out the instructions described in this thread
> for using this adapter.
>
> >FILLING INSTRUCTIONS ARE :
> > REMOVE METRIC FILLER CAP FROM STRUT, INSTALL TOOL, FILL STRUT, REMOVE
> > TOOL
>
> If this procedure were followed, one would have a 75 caliber projectile
> with 700 PSI behind it as the poor slob was unscrewing the adapter.
>
> If using one of these adapters, PLEASE make sure to depressurize the
> adapter by depressing the Schrader valve until all nitrogen has been
> depleted between the adapter and the strut filler plunger.
>
> Ernie
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Kelley Monroe
> To: yak-list(at)matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Yak-List: strut filling tool for nanchangs and yaks
>
>
> THE STRUT PRESSURE CAN BE MEASURED WITH A DUAL GAUGE SET-UP ON THE
> NITRIGEN
> TANK. 700PSI ON THE MAINS AND 300PSI ON THE NOSE.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ernie Martinez" <ernest.martinez(at)oracle.com>
> To:
> Subject: RE: Yak-List: strut filling tool for nanchangs and yaks
>
>
>
> >
> > And how do you measure the strut pressure?
> >
> > Ernie
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com
> > [mailto:owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Kelley
> Monroe
> > To: yak-list(at)matronics.com
> > Subject: Yak-List: strut filling tool for nanchangs and yaks
> >
>
> >
> > I HAVE HAD 40 STRUT FILLING TOOLS MADE. THERE MADE OUT OF 303
> STAINLESS
> > AND FIT IN A 35MM FILM CONTAINER. ALL THE STRUTS FOR NANCHANGES,
> YAKS,
> > L29S AND L39S CAN BE FILLED USING THIS TOOLS. FILLING INSTRUCTIONS ARE
> :
> > REMOVE METRIC FILLER CAP FROM STRUT, INSTALL TOOL, FILL STRUT, REMOVE
> > TOOL AND INSTALL METRIC FILLER CAP. ANYONE THAT IS INTERESTED THE
> COST
> > IS $125.00 INCLUDING SHIPPING.
> >
> >
> > ==
> > ==
> > ==
> > ==
> >
> >
>
>
> ==
> ==
> ==
> ==
>
>
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| From: | "Mark Jefferies YAK UK Ltd" <mark(at)yakuk.com> |
Frank, just send them to us and by return you will get a fully released and certified
set back with the out sheath hand stitched on. 55$/ pipe. Why play around
with pipe that was not made for the fittings?
BR, Mark
Yaksters,
I'm replacing my fuel and oil hoses. OK, so now I have them out of the
airplane and disassembled. Problem is I'm not sure of the hose sizes to
use. I'm thinking Aeroquip 303 hose might work but not sure of the
correct sizing given the metric end fittings. Anyone got suggestions on
the correct size of the hoses? I'm replacing all the hoses so I would
need suggestions for all the different sizes.
Thanks in advance
Frank
N911OM
YAK-52
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| From: | "Ernie Martinez" <ernest.martinez(at)oracle.com> |
Has anyone got a number for Jim Plumlee. I tried getting from the RPA
website, but now the site doesn't remember me anymore.
Deon, if you see this, The site is now giving me a timeout message, and
I don't know my username since its not something I can remember. I tried
using the "Forgot my username" link and got the same session timeout
error.
Ernie
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| From: | "Yak52" <yak52(at)flyredstar.org> |
Ernie,
I moved the database to a better machine last night, but screwed up on the
connection. Thanks for letting me know. It is up and running again.
To all RPA members (and non-members) - please let me know if you run into a
problem, I can usually fix the problem just about immediately, but since
this is my night time job I'm not always aware of a problem until I run into
it or you do.
Thanks for all your patience so far with the online store as well - Drew and
I are doing all we can to have it open ASAP.
Thanks,
Deon Esterhuizen.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com]On Behalf Of Ernie Martinez
Subject: Yak-List: Jim Plumlee
Has anyone got a number for Jim Plumlee. I tried getting from the RPA
website, but now the site doesn't remember me anymore.
Deon, if you see this, The site is now giving me a timeout message, and
I don't know my username since its not something I can remember. I tried
using the "Forgot my username" link and got the same session timeout
error.
Ernie
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| From: | "Jerry Painter" <wild.blue(at)verizon.net> |
You make my point. Without you guys we'd all be SOL. I presume you are NOT
supported by the factory--no support for you means no support for any of us.
We are all dependent on our/your suppliers--are they reliable for the long
term? If you (or anyone else) could advertise as being a factory parts
outlet we could all give a sigh of relief. That's as true for 52's et al as
CJ's.
I didn't know you had hose--fittings, too? I've been through that chase
myself and had to substitute US hose ergo my post. Thanks for the list.
If we get no factory support we might as well go buy Experimental built
Warner powered Monocoupes with Aeromatic props.
Maybe next year for ARS.
Jerry
-----Original Message-----
From: Doug Sapp [mailto:rvfltd(at)televar.com]
Subject: support
Jerry,
Your worry about being without parts support makes me smile a bit. I have
over 200K invested in CJ6 parts, engines, aircraft and props, my overriding
goal has been to stock a full spectrum of parts to support the entire
aircraft. While I can somewhat understand your fear, I also would ask you
to consider the fact that if I don't have everyone's support there simply
isn't enough money in this to pay me to do it. I just invested 3500.00 in
bulk hose to support the needs of both the yak and CJ guys, now I am
wondering if it was a smart move. I sincerely doubt that you would want me
to just stock the expendables and let everyone worry about the small parts
and pcs on their own. I have attached my parts list for your information.
(Items with * are out of stock) Need seals to repair the shuttle valves, I
got em, fluorescent bulbs for the cockpit lights, got em, the hardware to
attach the gear doors, yep, the skins for the gear doors, yes that too, the
list goes on and on. It take a huge amount of cash to stock all this stuff,
but when your on the ground because of a broken this or that I can normally
get you back in the air. My philosophy has always been the same, and that
is that unless the potential CJ owner feels that he can support the aircraft
he will not buy it, parts have been the backbone of the whole CJ6 community
forever and without them our aircraft will end up as hanger queens or
derelicts. I'll bet I have received 20 calls form various insurance
companies asking about my parts support. The only reason why you can buy
anything resembling low cost hull insurance is because of the availability
of parts to repair the aircraft in the event of an accident. Your post
seems to say that we need alternative sources of parts, but the truth of the
matter is that at this time there is not sufficient numbers of CJ's in the
US to financially warrant it. If you have two suppliers, both will starve
to death, but if one person has the support of the CJ community he will be
able to slowly grow the business until we all can accomplish what we need
and want. You will have a place where you can find nearly any part of the
aircraft at a reasonable price, and I will have a business that hopefully
someday will grow into a source of enough income to support me and my wife
in our retirement. Right now this is a hobby business, when worked in
concert with my floral business it all works, take the flowers away and it's
a no go. I have kept my prices low as possible, hell Carl Hayes buys all
his wheel and brake stuff from me, then marks it up and sells it to the Yak
52 guys. And no, I don't cut him a good deal, he gets just what any other
dealer/shop gets that's 10% off my published price list.
In short if everyone wants to use US hose and reinvent the wheel, I'll stop
carrying the hoses, both bulk and complete, same applies to seals and many
other small items. When my income drops to a point where this is no longer
holding it's own I'll fold my tent completely. Then at least for a period
of time there will be no one to keep the CJ6 guys in the air. If I come off
sounding pissed I am sorry, I am not. I am only a bit frustrated at the
guys that continually want to change something like the hoses (to US) and
not only pay more in the end, but end up having trouble mating up two hose
systems that were never supposed to be used together in the first place. At
last count I have over 200 different (complete with ends) hoses in stock,
over 50 meters of each size in bulk, so why in the hell would anyone want to
go to all the trouble to screw with US hose and metric fittings?.
Deal with Eaglet?? are you serious? Eaglet is nothing more than an arm of
CATIC, they stock nothing, have no knowledge of the CJ6, and cannot do
anything more than what the factory allows them to do. They will tell you
that only they can sell new CJ6's, well I will personally guarantee that I
can beat any price for a new CJ that they will give you. I tried to do
business with Fan and Eaglet, she shipped the wrong parts, charged me for
the correct parts, when I protested it took her over a full year to get the
correct parts ready to ship and then she had the nerve to tell me that
Eaglet did not have the money to ship the correct parts to me. I had to
hand carry the parts back to the states myself. When I got the parts home I
looked closely at them and discovered that they were not stainless steel as
ordered. Again I protested, this time she told me "You don't need stainless
steel plain steel is good enough" end of story in her mind, you don't need
it so shut up and go away!! So no Eaglet is NOT the answer. Maybe honest
Andrew? I don't even want to get into that topic.
Get hit by a truck, Well if that happens you can deal with my wife, she has
a full knowledge of the parts business.
Looked for you at Red Star. I intended to have the miniyak there but we got
screwed up with a fabric issue, the second chance was the brand new CJ6. I
flew commercial to Deer Valley to hang the engine and get it ready to fly to
ARS only to run head on into the FAA on a paper work issue which is still
unresolved. So needless to say I attended ARS as a gib thanks to the
kindness of Don Andrews and the new CJ still sits in AZ waiting for a N
number.
Hope all is well with you, maybe I'll see you at Arlington. Please excuse
me for bending your ear but this issue is near and dear to my heart...and my
wallet:>)
Always Yakin,
Doug Sapp
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| From: | "John Fischer" <fish(at)ccis.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Filler connection for air fill |
While doing an annual inspection on an L-29, I discovered a leak around the
schrader valve. While there is one-way check valve that would normally keep
the air from escaping, the leak was so small it prevented the check valve from
closing and allowed the leak to continue until the system was drained.
If you are using a schrader valve, I recommend bleeding down the pressure between
the schrader and the one-way check valve after filling the port to allow the
one-way check valve to work. Then the schrader valve works as an additional
safety.
Fly Safely
John Fischer
Flying Aircraft - Yak-52
Rebuild Projects - T-33A, PT-19A, L-5E
>
>There is also a check valve on the input port on the Yak 52. The Schrader
>valve fitting is used on the 52 because it is getting extremely difficult to
>find the original Russian connector that mates with the external air fill
>port.
>Dennis
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Joe Howse" <joeh(at)shaw.ca>
>To: rDNS : shaw.ca(at)matronics.com>
>Subject: Yak-List: Filler connection for air fill
>
>
>>
>> For the CJ6 at least no schraeder is neccessary at the fill point, there
>is a check valve in the system.
>>
>> Joe
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
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| From: | cjpilot710(at)aol.com |
Jim Plumlee
843-247-7690
843-815-7690
Jim Goolsby
"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little safety,
deserve neither liberty nor safety"
Benjamin Franklin 1759
"With my shield, or on it"
Trojan Warriors BC
"The reason older men are like fine wine. When young, they are like grapes
until some woman stomps all over them."
Unknown older man.
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Walt Lannon" <wlannon(at)cablerocket.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Housai engine part Id. required.. |
> In a message dated 5/22/2004 11:10:53 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
> wlannon(at)cablerocket.com writes:
>
> > Jim;
> > I stand to be corrected here but I think the greased rocker engine was
the
> > Huosai 5. It's max. RPM was 2250, different oil sump than the 6 or 6A
and
> > max. HP either 220 or 240. I think this was the first CJ6 engine that
proved
> > to be unacceptable.
> > The -6 is the engine described in the body of the Tech. Specs. manual
with
> > an addendum showing the -6A differences. Externally the 6 and 6A look
> > identical, to differentiate one needed to check the data plate or the
carb.
> > model number. Both have pressure lubed rockers for all cylinders.
> > Cheers;
> > Walt
> >
>
> Walt,
> My Nanchang when I bought it was a CJ-6, not a CJ-6A. The engine was HS-6
> (260hp) according to its data plate. I never found any oil in the top
rockers
> and was informed to make sure to keep them greased up. Only the CJ-6 was
> produced starting in 1962. In December 1963 they started putting the HS-6A
(285hp
> and lubed top rockers) into SOME aircraft (than called the CJ-6A) on the
> production line. There were a mixed bag of CJ-6 & 6As produced. My
airframe was
> built in 1969 but was a CJ-6 with the HS-6 (260hp) engine. I've only
heard of
> one other (CJ-6) coming into the US. Jim Plumly of SC has a 1962 CJ-6,
the
> oldest that I know of here in the states, however at some point it's
engine was
> changed to a HS-6A (285) making it CJ-6A.
>
> I've tried on several occasions to get the production history of the CJ-6.
> To no avail. At some point the Chinese use spot welding instead of rivets
on
> the fuselage. I've seen this on some airplanes produced in 1969 and 1972
but
> not on 70 or 71. A real mixed bag too. I would like to find which batch
in
> the production got what modifications. Oh well, maybe someday. :-/
>
> Jim Goolsby
Jim;
Yes, definitely a mixed bag.
Of the 4 CJ's I imported from China in 1994 two were early 1966 models, one
1967 and one 1969. They were configured as follows:
1966 - CJ6 - with the 260 HP -6 engine and 260 HP air intake system
1966 - CJ6 - with the 285 HP -6A engine and the 260 HP air intake system
1967 - CJ6 - " " " " " " " " " "
" " "
1969 - CJ6A - The only one of the 4 that left the factory as a CJ6A - The
installed engine was one of the early greased upper rocker versions. The air
intake system was the factory installed 285 HP version.
Apparently the Chinese airforce used whatever engine model they had
available at the time. No doubt the earlier ones were eventually discarded.
Walt
>
>
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| From: | "Frank Haertlein" <yak52driver(at)earthlink.net> |
Yaksters;
Just got a 52 in with cotton surfaces. I picked off a small piece from
an inconspicuous location and it crumbled as I rubbed it between my
fingers. I did the "thump" test and it seemed OK to me but I'm not an
expert by any stretch. I'm not mentioning names... (he reads this list)
but the owner wants to fly it this summer and wait to replace the
surfaces with stits until later this winter. My gut instinct is to
replace the cotton if only for peace of mind. Your opinions here would
mean allot to him. There's little history on the age of the cotton.
Other than the crumbling cotton finger test, the surfaces haven't been
properly tested. How should he test the surfaces? What are the
implications?
Thanks in advance
Frank
N911OM
YAK-52
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| From: | "David Stroud" <davestroud(at)rogers.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Housai engine part Id. required.. |
I checked the data plate on my Housai today and it had a Chinese symbol then a
- 6 printed on
it,
then either an A or 4 stamped beside it. Next to that was a serial number stamped
in, then
another
serial number stamped in above that. Below that, were Roman Numerals 1 thru V or
VI with blank
boxes beside each, presumeably for some stamp which never applied in any case.
Any idea what engine / hp this one is? Thanks.
David Stroud, Ottawa, Canada
Christavia C-FDWS
Fairchild 51 early construction
----- Original Message -----
From: "Walt Lannon" <wlannon(at)cablerocket.com>
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Housai engine part Id. required..
>
>
> > In a message dated 5/22/2004 11:10:53 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
> > wlannon(at)cablerocket.com writes:
> >
> > > Jim;
> > > I stand to be corrected here but I think the greased rocker engine was
> the
> > > Huosai 5. It's max. RPM was 2250, different oil sump than the 6 or 6A
> and
> > > max. HP either 220 or 240. I think this was the first CJ6 engine that
> proved
> > > to be unacceptable.
> > > The -6 is the engine described in the body of the Tech. Specs. manual
> with
> > > an addendum showing the -6A differences. Externally the 6 and 6A look
> > > identical, to differentiate one needed to check the data plate or the
> carb.
> > > model number. Both have pressure lubed rockers for all cylinders.
> > > Cheers;
> > > Walt
> > >
> >
> > Walt,
> > My Nanchang when I bought it was a CJ-6, not a CJ-6A. The engine was HS-6
> > (260hp) according to its data plate. I never found any oil in the top
> rockers
> > and was informed to make sure to keep them greased up. Only the CJ-6 was
> > produced starting in 1962. In December 1963 they started putting the HS-6A
> (285hp
> > and lubed top rockers) into SOME aircraft (than called the CJ-6A) on the
> > production line. There were a mixed bag of CJ-6 & 6As produced. My
> airframe was
> > built in 1969 but was a CJ-6 with the HS-6 (260hp) engine. I've only
> heard of
> > one other (CJ-6) coming into the US. Jim Plumly of SC has a 1962 CJ-6,
> the
> > oldest that I know of here in the states, however at some point it's
> engine was
> > changed to a HS-6A (285) making it CJ-6A.
> >
> > I've tried on several occasions to get the production history of the CJ-6.
> > To no avail. At some point the Chinese use spot welding instead of rivets
> on
> > the fuselage. I've seen this on some airplanes produced in 1969 and 1972
> but
> > not on 70 or 71. A real mixed bag too. I would like to find which batch
> in
> > the production got what modifications. Oh well, maybe someday. :-/
> >
> > Jim Goolsby
>
> Jim;
> Yes, definitely a mixed bag.
> Of the 4 CJ's I imported from China in 1994 two were early 1966 models, one
> 1967 and one 1969. They were configured as follows:
> 1966 - CJ6 - with the 260 HP -6 engine and 260 HP air intake system
>
> 1966 - CJ6 - with the 285 HP -6A engine and the 260 HP air intake system
>
> 1967 - CJ6 - " " " " " " " " " "
> " " "
>
> 1969 - CJ6A - The only one of the 4 that left the factory as a CJ6A - The
> installed engine was one of the early greased upper rocker versions. The air
> intake system was the factory installed 285 HP version.
>
> Apparently the Chinese airforce used whatever engine model they had
> available at the time. No doubt the earlier ones were eventually discarded.
>
> Walt
>
>
> >
> >
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Gary Reynolds <gary.reynolds(at)hills.com.au> |
Gday i wouldn't fly it with any of their fabric still on it in Australia we
replace all control surfaces with Dacron (ceconite/Stits etc) before flight
i have heard of a yak that lost some of the original fabric in flight .off
of the elevators. i would change it especially in the prop wash areas
Gary Reynolds
-----Original Message-----
From: Frank Haertlein [mailto:yak52driver(at)earthlink.net]
Subject: Yak-List: High Cotton
Yaksters;
Just got a 52 in with cotton surfaces. I picked off a small piece from
an inconspicuous location and it crumbled as I rubbed it between my
fingers. I did the "thump" test and it seemed OK to me but I'm not an
expert by any stretch. I'm not mentioning names... (he reads this list)
but the owner wants to fly it this summer and wait to replace the
surfaces with stits until later this winter. My gut instinct is to
replace the cotton if only for peace of mind. Your opinions here would
mean allot to him. There's little history on the age of the cotton.
Other than the crumbling cotton finger test, the surfaces haven't been
properly tested. How should he test the surfaces? What are the
implications?
Thanks in advance
Frank
N911OM
YAK-52
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| From: | "Mark Jefferies YAK UK Ltd" <mark(at)yakuk.com> |
This is what happens to russian cotton after 4 years, usually the whole elivater
will be torn away. I have seen this twice many years ago.
http://www.yakuk.com/img/ffabric.jpg
MJ
Gday i wouldn't fly it with any of their fabric still on it in Australia
we
replace all control surfaces with Dacron (ceconite/Stits etc) before flight
i have heard of a yak that lost some of the original fabric in flight .off
of the elevators. i would change it especially in the prop wash areas
Gary Reynolds
-----Original Message-----
From: Frank Haertlein [mailto:yak52driver(at)earthlink.net]
Subject: Yak-List: High Cotton
Yaksters;
Just got a 52 in with cotton surfaces. I picked off a small piece from
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Kelley Monroe" <kelmonroe(at)comcast.net> |
I bought new engine oil hoses for my now 4th CJ6 from Doug Sapp. The hoses
came cut in lenths, sealed on each end and match the OE hoses in every way.
Why would anyone want to take a chance on a US standard hose when a factory
metric hose is available from the guy that keeps us flying?
The Strut Tool Guy
Kelley Monroe
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| From: | "Jim Bernier" <JBernier(at)dart.org> |
I hate to pass the buck, but the man to talk to about the CJ engines is Marc Bates.
I purchased an engine from him that was stamped as an HS6, no A. The remarkable
thing about to was the oil lubricated top end. Marc said that this engine
was one of the last CJ6 to be produced.
Jim B
>>> jmreiter(at)adelphia.net 05/23/04 01:34PM >>>
Jim Bernier has a HS6 torn down that he was thinking of modifying. Jim is very
helpful on the engine with internal engine information.
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| From: | "jay reiter" <jmreiter(at)adelphia.net> |
Sorry I took your name in vain Jim. Marcus is helpful also but I remembered you
saying your engune was the older engine
________________________________________________________________________________
New numbers:
843-263-0679
843-987-3260
Jim Plumle
"Launch Pad"
N31103/CJ-6A
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| From: | "TC Johnson" <tjohnson(at)cannonaviation.com> |
Looking for a new set of exhaust clamps and seals.
Not the doughnuts at the cylinder . . . (don't say doughnut . . ate too many at
ARS .. )
But I need the seals and clamps for the joints around the exhaust ring.
Please contact directly off list: tjohnson(at)cannonaviation.com
Tom Johnson
Yak52
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| From: | "Paul Dumoret" <3bar(at)telus.net> |
Just read Doug's diatribe regarding Yak parts and hoses an' stuff. Come
on Doug - you were pissed, and not to be blamed for it either. Having
known you for over 12 years when you first got into this business and
watched what you have accomplished along with the associated gamble (not
just with fickle A/C owners, but regulation changes), no one in their
right mind should even bother re-inventing the friggin' wheel. In (and
for) your case, you have "been there-done it" notwithstanding help from
guys such as Joe, Walt and many others. Most people don't understand the
"Cajons" you have placed on the block to get to this level - surely to
God, those who want to complain would never consider it. Doug, you're
allowed to be pissed and don't be so subtle trying to hide it, what with
the Miniyak down due to fabric issues, your CJ down to Reg issues, you
have been bumming rides for years 'cause of your hangar queens. Now you
have to concentrate on you, (# 1), and get them in the air so you can go
back to enjoying the thrills of flight in these great machines. Chin up
ol' man, it's only a very few who don't know your real worth to this
community - and you'll always have that!!
Regards,
Paul Dumoret
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Dean Courtney" <deancourtney696(at)hotmail.com> |
| Subject: | RE: Original fabric |
Original fabric on the control surfaces? There is a factory "service
bulletin" requiring replacement of that unknown stuff. Check Mark Jefferies
web site.
Cheers,
Dean Courtney
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Jerry Painter" <wild.blue(at)verizon.net> |
| Subject: | RE: factory support--better get your wallet out! |
Doug,
My experience is exactly the same as yours.
One reason I became a dealer for Aerostar and tried to become a dealer for
new CJ's was my nave expectation that they would provide aircraft of known
quality (How can you screw up a new airplane? They do!) at a fixed price in
a reasonable period of time, likewise parts. Not so! We've all been
through the agony of trying to track down parts and couldnt get any, so had
to improvise, lying about what the parts were for ("we can't sell you this
if you're going to use it on an airplane") etc etc. Improvisation isn't
usually a good thing with airplanes. That's why we have an FAA and
certification.
Frank asks what to do because he doesn't know WHERE to get hose--he assumes
hose is available. Maybe it is, maybe it isn't. Seems like a reasonable
question, but you can't buy it from Aviall, so where do you go? Try finding
a cylinder for a Warner. Warners haven't been made for a thousand years so
there are NO parts. But actually, there are parts--if you know where to
look. But CJ's and -52's are still in production so parts should be readily
available, right? The obvious thing would be to go to a dealer who gets his
parts from the factory. Mark Jefferies says support the factories. I would
completely agree with Mark if the factories would support their customers.
You and I (and Mark) know the factories are clueless and couldnt care
less--I think they're just looking for baksheesh and we don't rate.
That means sometimes you need to find alternative solutions (like you would
for a Warner-Aeromatic Monocoupe, FAA be damned). Even if the factory made
parts at reasonable prices, lots of folks would still look for alternative
solutions if it meant saving a little cash. Fortunately you are one of the
alternative solutions and we're all grateful, since otherwise we'd be SOL.
I know where you get your parts, you know where I get my airplanes--NOT the
factory! If I had known you had hose and fittings I would have said as
much--not spam in my book--critical information for the safety of flight.
Would someone complain about spamming if you said buy a part for your Cessna
from Cessna? The clubs and Yak-list are the only sources of info for most
Yaksters. If identifying sources and solutions is spam, we need more spam.
Whether or not someone makes a little money (wishful thinking!) is beside
the point. Improvising on airplanes is a dangerous thing for most people to
undertake. But sometimes us gray marketers are unable to come up with
what's required and you have no choice but to improvise. We all know that
unless the factories realize there is a market to be served, someday there
won't be any parts for anyone. Why improvise if the real thing is
available? If we could get reasonable and realistic factory support we
would all be better off. 80/87 fuel? 115/145? Your engine doesn't like
100LL? Sorry. Still, we keep 'em flying!
And I think its important for everyone to understand how things work--that's
why I cc the list. We need a transparent system. You and I both know there
are lots of unairworthy airplanes flying around because of improvisation.
Very few people are going to try to emulate you in the parts business or me
in the airplane business--though many may try for brief periods. I had no
idea 2 Genes was selling FOD kits for -52's. Did you? That's useful
information. I learn all kinds of things from postings on the Yak-list.
If Christian Dragoi sends me an email today saying Aerostar has changed its
ways I'll become a dealer for them again instantly. Unfortunately, it ain't
gonna happen. When I told them I wanted to buy engines and they said the
wholesale price would be $25K, I told them to forget it. Close up the
factory. No market at $25K wholesale when you can buy engines for (then)
$12K retail, complete with prop! How about parts? No interest. Just ship
the engines to Bacau and they'd maintain them. Ditto airplanes. Just stuff
them in an envelope and mail them over. Manuals? Why would anyone want
manuals? Full text SB's/AD's? Kits? What for? Amazing!
Why anyone would even TRY (since it's impossible) do business with them is a
mystery to me. But, I note that their engine prices are now much more
competitive and that surplus prices have gone up--good for the factory, good
for the gray marketers, good for end users. Termikas is now building a
-52TD that looks like a whole lot smarter solution than the -52TW and at a
much more realistic price (spam?). More supply, better prices, more
reliable sources, more transparency. A little competition can be a good
thing. But there are still many parts that are simply unavailable--not
good. Unless the factories wise up, someday we'll all run out of parts.
Then you and I will be out of business. If they get smart, it's good for
all of us, Beech prices or not. Some people like Beech prices! There will
still be a market for surplus airplanes and parts at better prices. People
still buy Warner Monocoupes with Aeromatics. In the meantime, sometimes
improvisation is the only choice, and occasionally, the better choice--even
CJ/-52 supplemental fuel systems (an especially dangerous place to
improvise) etc. Good luck in the meantime.
I wish someone would build plentiful quantities of a 2-place, retractable,
fast, good looking, US built, certificated, aerobatic airplane with a 1000
mile range and a 985 and Ham Std for under $100K. Not holding my breath.
Jerry
-----Original Message-----
From: Doug Sapp [mailto:rvfltd(at)televar.com]
Subject: factory support--better get your wallet out!
Jerry,
Factory support would mean Beechcraft prices. It has become very obvious
that CJ6 (retired) prices cannot run much higher than about 80 to 100K
finished and flying. If we had to go to the factory for parts that aircraft
would cost you nearly 200K by the time you got it in the air. You must
remember that they are a communist country, the workers work because they
have to, the factory gets paid rather they show a profit or not, why should
they bust their butts to help you and me?? My parts come from the air
bases. The factory really builds very little, they are more of a assembly
point than a factory (as we know the term). All production comes from a
myriad of small factories scattered all over China. This WWII thinking was
to prevent the loss of the entire factory if it were bombed by the enemy. To
place an order with the factory is nearly impossible unless you want to
order 100 units. You cannot for instance order 1 new cowl, but they will
talk to you if you want to order 50 new cowls. A set of cowling from the
air bases cost me 20% of what the factory wants and I can buy them one at a
time. The airbase cowl is available right now, the factory cowls would take
6 months. Two years ago I went to factory 320 at Nanchang, and sat down
with them and told them I wanted them to produce a stainless steel exhaust
system for the 285 hp engine. They said ok but you have to take 20 units, I
said no problem. They were to tell me when they were ready and I would send
the money in full, in advance. 6 months passed and I happened to be talking
with a friend from Australia, he started telling me about this cool
stainless steel exhaust system he was buying from Eaglet! I called the
factory and they told me that CATIC/Eaglet had taken the production and was
selling them to "their customers"!! These folks have not a clue as to how
we capitalist dogs do business, hell they have knocked off my aux fuel
system (look at the Eaglet mailer.)
The list I sent you is last years list, I have many other parts not on the
list as I have received 3 shipments since that list was published. A new
more complete list will be published soon.
I responded to you directly and not the list for a reason--there are a few
guys on the list who view this type of an exchange as bordering on spam
because I am in the parts business. When I respond directly to you it is
for a reason. They would be correct in pointing out that you don't see Carl
or Geo doing postings like this. I was surprised to see that you had
forwarded our exchange to the list. Not a problem, just surprised me.
Always Yakin,
Doug Sapp
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Doug Sapp" <rvfltd(at)televar.com> |
Geeze guys, That email was supposed to be a personal rant to Jerry Painter,
who forwarded it to the list without my knowing it. Guess it's true, once
you push the button you just never know who is listening / reading! But
thanks to you all for your kind words. And Paul, are you off your meds
again?
But there is one item that I would like to clear up--while it is true that
during my prolonged ground bound predicament I have been known to load into
most any CJ like a old bird dog looking for a chance to go hunting, I have
NOT been "bumming" I have my dignity you know! I may have on occasion
groveled and whined and at one time I think I actually sniveled (but no one
noticed so that doesn't count), but I have not been Bumming!! (anybody got
a empty seat to Lincoln?);>)
With the new CJ inching ever closer to the hanger door, I plan to be in the
air soon. The only glitch now is with the paperwork, which should be
resolved in a week or so....hopefully.
Thanks again.
Always Yakin,
Doug Sapp
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com]On Behalf Of Paul Dumoret
Subject: Yak-List: Commie Parts
Just read Doug's diatribe regarding Yak parts and hoses an' stuff. Come
on Doug - you were pissed, and not to be blamed for it either. Having
known you for over 12 years when you first got into this business and
watched what you have accomplished along with the associated gamble (not
just with fickle A/C owners, but regulation changes), no one in their
right mind should even bother re-inventing the friggin' wheel. In (and
for) your case, you have "been there-done it" notwithstanding help from
guys such as Joe, Walt and many others. Most people don't understand the
"Cajons" you have placed on the block to get to this level - surely to
God, those who want to complain would never consider it. Doug, you're
allowed to be pissed and don't be so subtle trying to hide it, what with
the Miniyak down due to fabric issues, your CJ down to Reg issues, you
have been bumming rides for years 'cause of your hangar queens. Now you
have to concentrate on you, (# 1), and get them in the air so you can go
back to enjoying the thrills of flight in these great machines. Chin up
ol' man, it's only a very few who don't know your real worth to this
community - and you'll always have that!!
Regards,
Paul Dumoret
________________________________________________________________________________
All of our planes need / will need parts, Mods, improvements etc. If someone
informing me of the availability of the above so I can keep my plane flying,
Safer,
etc., then let the SPAM roll! I would much rather read this type of Spam than
read
the dribble of some of the Ego's on this list trying to piss on each others
shoes.
Tom Elliott
CJ-6 N63727
Sandy Valley NV
3L2
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| From: | "cpayne(at)joimail.com" <cpayne(at)joimail.com> |
Jeeze,
What's all this Monocoupe talk about? How's about an M-14P
powered homebuilt Clipwing Monocoupe? Well it was at SNF.
Looked great and next to a real Clipwing, it was noticably
larger, a full 2-people wide rather than 1-1/2 people wide
like the original. It's called the McCullough Coupe, ask Jim
Kimball for more details. No idea on performance but I'm
sure there will be an article on it somewhere.
I'd trade my CJ if someone would take the deal. LOL.
Formation Monocoupes anyone?
Craig Payne
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | KJKimball(at)aol.com |
Craig,
Thank you for the kind words on the McCullocoupe. It belongs to John
McCulloch and is coupe like in style which is how we came up with the name. We
restored a clipwing monocoupe for John in 1992 and we did the yellow one that was
at SNF next to the McCullocoupe a few years later. The MCC flew for the first
time in March of this year. Basically, it is how big a clipwing would have to
be in order to fit the 403hp M14PF engine on the front. Prop was designed
for it specifically by MT.
There are stories on it now and upcoming. The Spring issue of Sportsman
Pilot, www.sportsmanpilot.com for a link to it. This is a quarterly mag by Jack
and Golda Cox. Soon, in a few months, there will be a story on the
McCullocoupe in EAA sport Aviation.
Sincerely,
Kevin Kimball, VP Engineering
Jim Kimball Enterprises, Inc.
PO Box 849, 5354 Cemetery Rd.
Zellwood, FL 32798
407-889-3451 phone
407-889-7168 fax
www.jimkimballenterprises.com
www.pittsmodel12.com
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| From: | "Jerry Painter" <wild.blue(at)verizon.net> |
Frank,
The FAA standard for fabric is still Grade A cotton. Don't know where to
buy it, but that's the standard. That's why you need an STC to use Stits,
Ceconite etc on almost all fabric covered US certificated aircraft. Nothing
wrong with cotton, but it does lose strength with age and will rot. Still,
it will last a long, long time with proper care. Any A&P should be able to
test it--Maule makes a tester. It's the 70% rule--min 80psi materials,
56psi (70%) min "deteriorated." See AC 43-13-1B/2A and 65-15A. Also, see
Yak UK's web site for UK "AD/SB" and an example of what can go wrong.
Friend of mine had ALL of the fabric come off one -52 elevator. Likewise
another friend's -18T. Both are lucky to have survived. Some "overhauls"
have used substandard materials. Most don't lock stitch or use silver.
Look out!
Yes, US fittings are 37 degrees.
Jerry Painter
Wild Blue Aviation
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| From: | "Frank Haertlein" <yak52driver(at)earthlink.net> |
Jerry said
"The FAA standard for fabric is still Grade A cotton. Don't know where
to buy it, but that's the standard. That's why you need an STC to use
Stits, Ceconite etc on almost all fabric covered US certificated
aircraft".
Geezus Krist, Jerry? When is the FAA going to get with the times?
I can tell you the crux of the story..... The FAA is afraid to progress
and embrace innovation or change because of perceived unknowns and the
present tort/litigious society. Even if there is an advanced product,
few are willing to put it to market for fear of tort/litigation and the
expense involved.
Note the departure of Burt Rutan from the experimental market. He
basically said "fu&( this" I'm outta here! He's just another "world
class" innovator held back by a litigious, tort oriented government
acting as a stupid big brother. Is it any wonder the US is behind in
innovation? It's the perfect example of the big brother government
attitude so pervasive in our lives.
Bottom line is the insurance industry and it's lawyers hold us back from
affordability and innovation. The parasite has gotten too big for the
host. We all pay the price in higher costs, inferior products and a
reduced quality of life. Why do you think so many are building
experimentals or buying FSU or Chinese aircraft? Because they're
affordable and aren't subject to stupid US laws of (certificated)
airworthiness that has little basis in reality........just like the
rules and standards on cotton you detailed above.
Sorry Tom, but that's how I see it.
Frank
N911OM
YAK-52
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| From: | Barry Hancock <radialpower(at)cox.net> |
Gang,
Check out Allen Silver's home page for photos of ARS III. Thanks to
Allen for another great year. He packed a ton of chutes and gave
another great emergency egress presentation.
http://www.pia.com/silver/
Cheers,
Barry
Barry Hancock
Event Director
All Red Star 2004
(949) 300-5510
www.allredstar.com
"Communism - Lousy Politics, Great Airplanes!"
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Ross Bausone" <WingLeader_GoldenGateWing(at)msn.com> |
| Subject: | Yak Engine stopping in flight briefly |
I am a partner in a Yak-52. It's been a great machine.
I was looking for info regarding the Yak engine "cutting out" for 1-2 seconds.
Has anyone ever noticed anything like this? Has it happened consistently with your
aircraft? I had this happen right after lift off, once, and another had it
happen at 3500 feet in cruise.
This has happened a few times, and we are beginning to suspect the carburetor however,
we haven't gotten a clear indication yet.
Thoughts?
Regards,
Ross
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "A. Dennis Savarese" <adsavar(at)gte.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Yak Engine stopping in flight briefly |
Most likely is a bad coil in one of the magnetos. I know that may sound
somewhat far fetched, but believe me, we had a similar problem in one of our
recently delivered airplanes and chased EVERYTHING while not believing it
could be a bad magneto coil. I have also talked to several other experts
that have corroborated the symptom and the cause.
Dennis
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ross Bausone" <WingLeader_GoldenGateWing(at)msn.com>
Subject: Yak-List: Yak Engine stopping in flight briefly
>
> I am a partner in a Yak-52. It's been a great machine.
>
> I was looking for info regarding the Yak engine "cutting out" for 1-2
seconds.
>
> Has anyone ever noticed anything like this? Has it happened consistently
with your aircraft? I had this happen right after lift off, once, and
another had it happen at 3500 feet in cruise.
>
> This has happened a few times, and we are beginning to suspect the
carburetor however, we haven't gotten a clear indication yet.
>
> Thoughts?
>
> Regards,
> Ross
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "A. Dennis Savarese" <adsavar(at)gte.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Yak Engine stopping in flight briefly |
You should also check the fine fuel screen for debris and make sure your
flexible hoses do not have an obstruction which could have been caused by a
small piece of rubber/rubber flap from when the ends were assembled into the
hose.
Dennis
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ross Bausone" <WingLeader_GoldenGateWing(at)msn.com>
Subject: Yak-List: Yak Engine stopping in flight briefly
>
> I am a partner in a Yak-52. It's been a great machine.
>
> I was looking for info regarding the Yak engine "cutting out" for 1-2
seconds.
>
> Has anyone ever noticed anything like this? Has it happened consistently
with your aircraft? I had this happen right after lift off, once, and
another had it happen at 3500 feet in cruise.
>
> This has happened a few times, and we are beginning to suspect the
carburetor however, we haven't gotten a clear indication yet.
>
> Thoughts?
>
> Regards,
> Ross
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Terry Calloway" <TCalloway(at)datatechnique.com> |
| Subject: | AirVenture 2004 Warbird NOTAM |
The AirVenture 2004 Warbird NOTAM has been published and is available
http://www.airventure.org/2004/flying/notam_2004.pdf
No real surprises but everyone going to Oshkosh should study it prior
to departure AND have a copy on the cockpit.
One addendum I would recommend is for all Red Star planes to divert to
MTW for fun and flying starting Sunday July 24.
See you there,
tc
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Doug Sapp" <rvfltd(at)televar.com> |
| Subject: | Yak Engine stopping in flight briefly |
Very similar problem in 2 Yak 52's at ARS. On the first water was found in
the fine screen, on the second no obvious problems could be found except the
pilot had been operating the aircraft at low green temps and the plugs which
were old Russian plugs were very badly worn. The combination of the two may
have accounted for the problem.
Always Yakin,
Doug Sapp
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com]On Behalf Of Ross Bausone
Subject: Yak-List: Yak Engine stopping in flight briefly
I am a partner in a Yak-52. It's been a great machine.
I was looking for info regarding the Yak engine "cutting out" for 1-2
seconds.
Has anyone ever noticed anything like this? Has it happened consistently
with your aircraft? I had this happen right after lift off, once, and
another had it happen at 3500 feet in cruise.
This has happened a few times, and we are beginning to suspect the
carburetor however, we haven't gotten a clear indication yet.
Thoughts?
Regards,
Ross
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Jerry Painter" <wild.blue(at)verizon.net> |
Frank,
How 'bout that McCullochCoupe! Way cool! And then there's the -985
version, too (Love them -985's--cheap, er, reasonably priced, too!).
Whatever happened to Aviat's 'Coupe? Yes, innovation is alive and well,
just not in (certificated) production (except sometimes). Someday the FAA
will realize (they've come to the realization but have no clue of how to
deal with it--probably just as well) that nothing interesting has happened
in US certificated airplanes in 50 years (with a few exceptions--and for
obvious reasons, spelled "FAA") and that the real arena is the
"Experimental" one. You're right that "liability" ("What, me worry? Not my
fault--must be HIS fault!") is a big part of the problem. Actually, the FAA
has finally recognized that cotton really is NOT the standard any more (AC
43.13-1B/2A now includes instructions for Stits/Ceconite installation,
including Stits' hidden knot--"acceptable" data, but not "approved" data),
but it doesn't matter because you still have to have an STC to use it on
most a/c. Why make it easy? TSO's/equivalency? Naaah! 'Course the STC's
are available for most a/c, so it works out OK--after 40 years. Have you
seen the Dynon displays? Who needs gyros/inverters? Experimentation can
(sometimes) be a good thing. There's a fine line in there somewhere.
Results may vary.
Jerry Painter
Wild Blue Aviation
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Kevin Pilling" <kjpilling(at)btclick.com> |
| Subject: | Infamous Exploding Yak 50 ..The Sequal |
Blank
Dear Listers and Lurkers
You'll recall the devastation wreaked upon my '50 last August by the catastrophic
failure of the main air bottle....., pictures available on the Motronics server.
Well I'm pleased to announce she flies once more. Having received the insurance
settlement at year end I had Mark at Yak UK crate her up and shipped to
Termikas in Lithuania. Last weekend we flew to Vilnius on a scheduled and took
a lift to the surprisingly beautiful Pociunai Glider Field, home base of Termikas
to accept the restored '50 and the newly completed Yak 52 TD.The results
of the careful attentions of the Termikas engineers is a revelation. Quite
literally a miracle. Their uncompromising standards of finish and engineering
excellence have to be seen to be believed. That my rebuild was finished on budget
and on time to the exact day promised puts to shame many pretenders to their
throne, not ignoring the extras I subsequently asked them to build into the
job !....like 400hp upgrade, full leather trim, transponder, stainless steel
firewall, all new rigid alloy and flexi pneumatic pipes and full instruments overhaul.
Test flown by Mark J' straight up to 10,500 feet and wrung out through
an energetic aerobatic sequence all the way back to touch down, no post test
flight adjustments were required. So next day, all paperwork completed, 07:30
local we departed, Mark in the new Yak 52TD myself in the '50 for the 1200 mile
ferry flight home to the UK. Three fuel stops (for the 50, only two for the
TD! ), plus one for Customs clearances and a little short of 10 hours airborne
later we put the wheels back on UK soil at 20:55 hrs local, 10 minutes past
sunset (20<30 km headwinds all the way )! Lithuania-Pociunai & Kaunas >Poland-Poznan>Germany-Braunschweig&Dinslaken>UK-Little
Gransden. (16 hours 25 minutes
inclusive) Almost unbelievably she remains perfectly clean and oil tight !
So to all those fellow Yaksters out there who offered comforting words and condolences
last August I say THANKS, it was much appreciated and helped in the low
points. Thanks also to Mark J' and all at Termikas.
BTW the 52TD looks sensational in flight...completely clean underwing and business
like from every angle. Suffice to say the engineering standards are exemplary.
..and to Mark S' your '50 was in the hanger being worked on alongside another flush
riveted example from Germany that had wet wings to give 5 + hours fuel.
Fly safe. kp
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Ron Davis" <l39parts(at)hotmail.com> |
If a plane was originally certified with cotton, then that's what the type
certificate required then, and now. Do you really want the FAA to
retroactively change the requirements on a plane?
NO, YOU DON'T, or at least I don't want them too.
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Steve & Donna Hanshew" <dhanshew(at)cinci.rr.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Yak Engine stopping in flight briefly |
Doug,
I concede to your infinite wisdom. The SK-35 alternator rig from B & C
worked. I have the old whore back in the hangar on the home strip.
Everything is working. I have fresh working Chinese generators for anyone
that wants them. I'm thinking of making a nice lamp with a chamois shade out
of one.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Doug Sapp" <rvfltd(at)televar.com>
Subject: RE: Yak-List: Yak Engine stopping in flight briefly
>
> Very similar problem in 2 Yak 52's at ARS. On the first water was found
in
> the fine screen, on the second no obvious problems could be found except
the
> pilot had been operating the aircraft at low green temps and the plugs
which
> were old Russian plugs were very badly worn. The combination of the two
may
> have accounted for the problem.
>
> Always Yakin,
> Doug Sapp
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com]On Behalf Of Ross Bausone
> To: yak-list(at)matronics.com
> Subject: Yak-List: Yak Engine stopping in flight briefly
>
>
>
>
> I am a partner in a Yak-52. It's been a great machine.
>
> I was looking for info regarding the Yak engine "cutting out" for 1-2
> seconds.
>
> Has anyone ever noticed anything like this? Has it happened consistently
> with your aircraft? I had this happen right after lift off, once, and
> another had it happen at 3500 feet in cruise.
>
> This has happened a few times, and we are beginning to suspect the
> carburetor however, we haven't gotten a clear indication yet.
>
> Thoughts?
>
> Regards,
> Ross
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Jorgen Nielsen" <jorgen.nielsen(at)mweb.co.za> |
Impressions of flat spin - yes it winds up, I also like the winding up
when going left and feeding in outspin ail, then then extra wind up when
going forward stick.
My impression: one does not have to hold it in when stable.
Re "if everything goes haywire", that won't work for flat spin. Mine
does not recover even with opposite rudder and full forward (i.e, no
inspin ail)
Can't comment on Lomchevak.
Jorgen
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Frank
Haertlein
Subject: Yak-List: RE: Yak 52
-->
Yaksters;
In talking about the right flat spin of the 52 all I can say is (in the
immortal words of a fellow MIG pilot) is that it "really winds up". I
got the very same impression when flying with Oleg. It really does "wind
up". I got the distinct impression that I had to hold it in to keep it
in the flat spin though the recovery did take a few turns. Anyone want
to interject their impressions? Everything was happening so fast I
couldn't really analyze what was going on except by using "seat of the
pants" impressions. Every other spin recovery seemed conventional for
me except that Oleg kept chastising me to slow down with the
recovery...... "YAK-52 like fine woman, go slow and things work good"..
Did anyone else have that impression?
Another interesting aspect of his training was the "if everything goes
haywire and you don't know what's upside down or rightside up, just pull
off power, hold onto the canopy rails and wait" maneuver. Took me awhile
to get used to that one but sure as hell the 52 found it's nose and
pointed the way back, so to speak. Not sure it would do that from the
flat spin though.
Out of curiosity, does anyone know how he gets you into the Lomchevak? I
think I know but since Oleg's spin entry was unusual for me I wonder if
his Lomchevak entry is different as well? I saw him and George Lazic
above the field tumbling around like crazy. Wished I would have thought
to ask him to show me that maneuver. Frank N911OM YAK52
==
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________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Jim Ivey" <jim(at)jimivey.com> |
Doug:
You're welcome in my cockpit anytime. PIC, front, back ... Your call. It
would be an honor. Same goes for my campfire. Anytime.
Thanks for the honest, impeccable parts support over the years. If for some
forgotten reason you do in fact qualify under a definition of "bumming" then
you're bumming with the best of us.
Jim Ivey
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | cjpilot710(at)aol.com |
| Subject: | Re: Commie Parts |
In a message dated 5/25/2004 6:27:38 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
jim(at)jimivey.com writes:
> Doug:
>
> You're welcome in my cockpit anytime. PIC, front, back ... Your call. It
> would be an honor. Same goes for my campfire. Anytime.
>
Well Doug's wife is welcome in MY cockpit. He's to ugly. :)
Jim Goolsby
"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little safety,
deserve neither liberty nor safety"
Benjamin Franklin 1759
"With my shield, or on it"
Trojan Warriors BC
"The reason older men are like fine wine. When young, they are like grapes
until some woman stomps all over them."
Unknown older man.
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Avcraft" <avcraft(at)citlink.net> |
| Subject: | Fred Ihlenberg Memorial Fly-In |
Fellow RPAers,
We are set for another Fantastic Clinic in Columbus, NE (OLU) June 9-13, 2004.
It's always been a great 5 days having everyone here! Janace & I are excited to
host such a wonderful group of aviation enthusiasts!
The town of Columbus, EAA Chapter 876, local businesses, the Columbus Airport Authority
and Avcraft, Inc. support this event and are looking forward to a successful
event again this year!
When I say SUPPORT:
Discounted Fuel
Discounted Oil
Discounted Room Rates
Some Free Meals (a Fantastic Steakfeed @ Avcraft! & Breakfast @ Avcraft on Saturday
& Sunday)
Transportation to and from Motel
Group Meals
Multi-aircraft Hangar capability @ no charge (we hangared 24 during a storm!)
We will have available:
Smoke oil; 100LL; 25/60 Aeroshell; 100 - 50W; 40W
Aerobatic Box on field
Bomb Drop Contest
Spot Landing Contest
Formation Training
Parachute Packing available
Formation Team Contest
and any other ideas we can come up with!
We are looking forward to another Great Event & Lots of FUN!
Make your plans now to attend!
Keith Harbour
402.564.7884 Office
402.910.5247 Cell
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Dave & Darlene" <dnimigon(at)telusplanet.net> |
Hi All
'm in the process of getting together metal, etc for my XL. I live in Alberta,
just west of Edmonton. I'm looking for a builder who might have some extra metal
kicking around. I realize there are many different sizes of angles,sheeting
that we need. I can access the most common, but there are some that can only
be ordered by the 4x12 sheet. Most of the sheet is never needed and there
seems to be much left over. I would be willing to pay fair price plus shipping.
I just think this would be a lettle more less expensive then buying a whole
sheet or a long length of angle only to use a small piece of it. It would probably
only be worthwhile getting this from a canadian as shipping cross the
border can get expensive. Any thoughts from the group are welcome.
Dave
dnimigon(at)telusplanet.net
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Drew Blahnick" <drewblahnick(at)hotmail.com> |
Folks,
The western region had a great turn out for it's signature event at Castle
Airport earlier this month. I would say a majority of aircraft owners West
of the Rockies attended...
We now are inside two weeks (June 9th) to the Nebraska (KOLU) Fred Ihlenburg
Memorial RPA fly-in hosted by Keith Harour that is welcoming all members to
attend and is conveniently located for access by all our members in the
Northwest, Northcentral and Southcentral regions - for well over 40 owners,
this is their closest event...
June 24th starts the Northeastern RPA fly-in at KGED in Delaware, hosted by
Charlie Lynch and Sean Carrol...
Members and non members who are planning to attend can find more information
and pre-register at http://www.flyredstar.org/A_Events.aspx and help the
planners prepare for your arrival.
Drew
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>
> 1. 06:15 AM - Yak Engine stopping in flight briefly (Ross Bausone)
> 2. 07:37 AM - Re: Yak Engine stopping in flight briefly (A. Dennis
Savarese)
> 3. 07:52 AM - Re: Yak Engine stopping in flight briefly (A. Dennis
Savarese)
> 4. 07:59 AM - AirVenture 2004 Warbird NOTAM (Terry Calloway)
> 5. 08:16 AM - Re: Yak Engine stopping in flight briefly (Doug Sapp)
> 6. 08:22 AM - (Jerry Painter)
> 7. 10:33 AM - Infamous Exploding Yak 50 ..The Sequal (Kevin Pilling)
> 8. 12:54 PM - Re: High Cotton (Ron Davis)
> 9. 12:59 PM - Re: Yak Engine stopping in flight briefly (Steve &
Donna Hanshew)
> 10. 02:15 PM - Re: Re: Yak 52 (Jorgen Nielsen)
> 11. 03:27 PM - Re: Commie Parts (Jim Ivey)
> 12. 03:35 PM - Re: Commie Parts (cjpilot710(at)aol.com)
> 13. 05:06 PM - Fred Ihlenberg Memorial Fly-In (Avcraft)
> 14. 07:10 PM - Aluminum (Dave & Darlene)
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 1
_____________________________________
>
>
> From: "Ross Bausone" <WingLeader_GoldenGateWing(at)msn.com>
> Subject: Yak-List: Yak Engine stopping in flight briefly
>
>
> I am a partner in a Yak-52. It's been a great machine.
>
> I was looking for info regarding the Yak engine "cutting out" for 1-2
seconds.
>
> Has anyone ever noticed anything like this? Has it happened consistently
with your
> aircraft? I had this happen right after lift off, once, and another had it
> happen at 3500 feet in cruise.
>
> This has happened a few times, and we are beginning to suspect the
carburetor however,
> we haven't gotten a clear indication yet.
>
> Thoughts?
>
> Regards,
> Ross
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 2
_____________________________________
>
>
> From: "A. Dennis Savarese" <adsavar(at)gte.net>
> Subject: Re: Yak-List: Yak Engine stopping in flight briefly
>
>
> Most likely is a bad coil in one of the magnetos. I know that may sound
> somewhat far fetched, but believe me, we had a similar problem in one of
our
> recently delivered airplanes and chased EVERYTHING while not believing it
> could be a bad magneto coil. I have also talked to several other experts
> that have corroborated the symptom and the cause.
> Dennis
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ross Bausone" <WingLeader_GoldenGateWing(at)msn.com>
> Subject: Yak-List: Yak Engine stopping in flight briefly
>
>
>
> >
> > I am a partner in a Yak-52. It's been a great machine.
> >
> > I was looking for info regarding the Yak engine "cutting out" for 1-2
> seconds.
> >
> > Has anyone ever noticed anything like this? Has it happened consistently
> with your aircraft? I had this happen right after lift off, once, and
> another had it happen at 3500 feet in cruise.
> >
> > This has happened a few times, and we are beginning to suspect the
> carburetor however, we haven't gotten a clear indication yet.
> >
> > Thoughts?
> >
> > Regards,
> > Ross
> >
> >
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 3
_____________________________________
>
>
> From: "A. Dennis Savarese" <adsavar(at)gte.net>
> Subject: Re: Yak-List: Yak Engine stopping in flight briefly
>
>
> You should also check the fine fuel screen for debris and make sure your
> flexible hoses do not have an obstruction which could have been caused by
a
> small piece of rubber/rubber flap from when the ends were assembled into
the
> hose.
> Dennis
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ross Bausone" <WingLeader_GoldenGateWing(at)msn.com>
> Subject: Yak-List: Yak Engine stopping in flight briefly
>
>
>
> >
> > I am a partner in a Yak-52. It's been a great machine.
> >
> > I was looking for info regarding the Yak engine "cutting out" for 1-2
> seconds.
> >
> > Has anyone ever noticed anything like this? Has it happened consistently
> with your aircraft? I had this happen right after lift off, once, and
> another had it happen at 3500 feet in cruise.
> >
> > This has happened a few times, and we are beginning to suspect the
> carburetor however, we haven't gotten a clear indication yet.
> >
> > Thoughts?
> >
> > Regards,
> > Ross
> >
> >
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 4
_____________________________________
>
>
> From: "Terry Calloway" <TCalloway(at)datatechnique.com>
> Subject: Yak-List: AirVenture 2004 Warbird NOTAM
>
>
> The AirVenture 2004 Warbird NOTAM has been published and is available
> http://www.airventure.org/2004/flying/notam_2004.pdf
>
> No real surprises but everyone going to Oshkosh should study it prior
> to departure AND have a copy on the cockpit.
>
> One addendum I would recommend is for all Red Star planes to divert to
> MTW for fun and flying starting Sunday July 24.
>
> See you there,
> tc
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 5
_____________________________________
>
>
> From: "Doug Sapp" <rvfltd(at)televar.com>
> Subject: RE: Yak-List: Yak Engine stopping in flight briefly
>
>
> Very similar problem in 2 Yak 52's at ARS. On the first water was found
in
> the fine screen, on the second no obvious problems could be found except
the
> pilot had been operating the aircraft at low green temps and the plugs
which
> were old Russian plugs were very badly worn. The combination of the two
may
> have accounted for the problem.
>
> Always Yakin,
> Doug Sapp
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com]On Behalf Of Ross Bausone
> Subject: Yak-List: Yak Engine stopping in flight briefly
>
>
>
>
> I am a partner in a Yak-52. It's been a great machine.
>
> I was looking for info regarding the Yak engine "cutting out" for 1-2
> seconds.
>
> Has anyone ever noticed anything like this? Has it happened consistently
> with your aircraft? I had this happen right after lift off, once, and
> another had it happen at 3500 feet in cruise.
>
> This has happened a few times, and we are beginning to suspect the
> carburetor however, we haven't gotten a clear indication yet.
>
> Thoughts?
>
> Regards,
> Ross
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 6
_____________________________________
>
>
> From: "Jerry Painter" <wild.blue(at)verizon.net>
> Subject: Yak-List:
>
>
> Frank,
> How 'bout that McCullochCoupe! Way cool! And then there's the -985
> version, too (Love them -985's--cheap, er, reasonably priced, too!).
> Whatever happened to Aviat's 'Coupe? Yes, innovation is alive and well,
> just not in (certificated) production (except sometimes). Someday the FAA
> will realize (they've come to the realization but have no clue of how to
> deal with it--probably just as well) that nothing interesting has happened
> in US certificated airplanes in 50 years (with a few exceptions--and for
> obvious reasons, spelled "FAA") and that the real arena is the
> "Experimental" one. You're right that "liability" ("What, me worry? Not
my
> fault--must be HIS fault!") is a big part of the problem. Actually, the
FAA
> has finally recognized that cotton really is NOT the standard any more (AC
> 43.13-1B/2A now includes instructions for Stits/Ceconite installation,
> including Stits' hidden knot--"acceptable" data, but not "approved" data),
> but it doesn't matter because you still have to have an STC to use it on
> most a/c. Why make it easy? TSO's/equivalency? Naaah! 'Course the
STC's
> are available for most a/c, so it works out OK--after 40 years. Have you
> seen the Dynon displays? Who needs gyros/inverters? Experimentation can
> (sometimes) be a good thing. There's a fine line in there somewhere.
> Results may vary.
> Jerry Painter
> Wild Blue Aviation
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 7
_____________________________________
>
>
> From: "Kevin Pilling" <kjpilling(at)btclick.com>
> Subject: Yak-List: Infamous Exploding Yak 50 ..The Sequal
>
>
> Blank
> Dear Listers and Lurkers
>
> You'll recall the devastation wreaked upon my '50 last August by the
catastrophic
> failure of the main air bottle....., pictures available on the Motronics
server.
> Well I'm pleased to announce she flies once more. Having received the
insurance
> settlement at year end I had Mark at Yak UK crate her up and shipped to
> Termikas in Lithuania. Last weekend we flew to Vilnius on a scheduled and
took
> a lift to the surprisingly beautiful Pociunai Glider Field, home base of
Termikas
> to accept the restored '50 and the newly completed Yak 52 TD.The results
> of the careful attentions of the Termikas engineers is a revelation. Quite
> literally a miracle. Their uncompromising standards of finish and
engineering
> excellence have to be seen to be believed. That my rebuild was finished on
budget
> and on time to the exact day promised puts to shame many pretenders to
their
> throne, not ignoring the extras I subsequently asked them to build into
the
> job !....like 400hp upgrade, full leather trim, transponder, stainless
steel
> firewall, all new rigid alloy and flexi pneumatic pipes and full
instruments overhaul.
> Test flown by Mark J' straight up to 10,500 feet and wrung out through
> an energetic aerobatic sequence all the way back to touch down, no post
test
> flight adjustments were required. So next day, all paperwork completed,
07:30
> local we departed, Mark in the new Yak 52TD myself in the '50 for the 1200
mile
> ferry flight home to the UK. Three fuel stops (for the 50, only two for
the
> TD! ), plus one for Customs clearances and a little short of 10 hours
airborne
> later we put the wheels back on UK soil at 20:55 hrs local, 10 minutes
past
> sunset (20<30 km headwinds all the way )! Lithuania-Pociunai & Kaunas
>Poland-Poznan>Germany-Braunschweig&Dinslaken>UK-Little
> Gransden. (16 hours 25 minutes
> inclusive) Almost unbelievably she remains perfectly clean and oil tight !
>
> So to all those fellow Yaksters out there who offered comforting words and
condolences
> last August I say THANKS, it was much appreciated and helped in the low
> points. Thanks also to Mark J' and all at Termikas.
>
> BTW the 52TD looks sensational in flight...completely clean underwing and
business
> like from every angle. Suffice to say the engineering standards are
exemplary.
>
> ..and to Mark S' your '50 was in the hanger being worked on alongside
another flush
> riveted example from Germany that had wet wings to give 5 + hours fuel.
>
> Fly safe. kp
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 8
_____________________________________
>
>
> From: "Ron Davis" <l39parts(at)hotmail.com>
> Subject: Re: Yak-List: High Cotton
>
>
> If a plane was originally certified with cotton, then that's what the type
> certificate required then, and now. Do you really want the FAA to
> retroactively change the requirements on a plane?
>
> NO, YOU DON'T, or at least I don't want them too.
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 9
_____________________________________
>
>
> From: "Steve & Donna Hanshew" <dhanshew(at)cinci.rr.com>
> Subject: Re: Yak-List: Yak Engine stopping in flight briefly
>
>
> Doug,
>
> I concede to your infinite wisdom. The SK-35 alternator rig from B & C
> worked. I have the old whore back in the hangar on the home strip.
> Everything is working. I have fresh working Chinese generators for anyone
> that wants them. I'm thinking of making a nice lamp with a chamois shade
out
> of one.
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> From: "Doug Sapp" <rvfltd(at)televar.com>
> Subject: RE: Yak-List: Yak Engine stopping in flight briefly
>
>
> >
> > Very similar problem in 2 Yak 52's at ARS. On the first water was found
> in
> > the fine screen, on the second no obvious problems could be found except
> the
> > pilot had been operating the aircraft at low green temps and the plugs
> which
> > were old Russian plugs were very badly worn. The combination of the two
> may
> > have accounted for the problem.
> >
> > Always Yakin,
> > Doug Sapp
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com
> > [mailto:owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com]On Behalf Of Ross Bausone
> > To: yak-list(at)matronics.com
> > Subject: Yak-List: Yak Engine stopping in flight briefly
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > I am a partner in a Yak-52. It's been a great machine.
> >
> > I was looking for info regarding the Yak engine "cutting out" for 1-2
> > seconds.
> >
> > Has anyone ever noticed anything like this? Has it happened consistently
> > with your aircraft? I had this happen right after lift off, once, and
> > another had it happen at 3500 feet in cruise.
> >
> > This has happened a few times, and we are beginning to suspect the
> > carburetor however, we haven't gotten a clear indication yet.
> >
> > Thoughts?
> >
> > Regards,
> > Ross
> >
> >
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 10
____________________________________
>
>
> From: "Jorgen Nielsen" <jorgen.nielsen(at)mweb.co.za>
> Subject: RE: Yak-List: RE: Yak 52
>
>
> Impressions of flat spin - yes it winds up, I also like the winding up
> when going left and feeding in outspin ail, then then extra wind up when
> going forward stick.
>
> My impression: one does not have to hold it in when stable.
>
> Re "if everything goes haywire", that won't work for flat spin. Mine
> does not recover even with opposite rudder and full forward (i.e, no
> inspin ail)
>
> Can't comment on Lomchevak.
>
> Jorgen
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Frank
> Haertlein
> Subject: Yak-List: RE: Yak 52
>
>
> -->
>
> Yaksters;
> In talking about the right flat spin of the 52 all I can say is (in the
> immortal words of a fellow MIG pilot) is that it "really winds up". I
> got the very same impression when flying with Oleg. It really does "wind
> up". I got the distinct impression that I had to hold it in to keep it
> in the flat spin though the recovery did take a few turns. Anyone want
> to interject their impressions? Everything was happening so fast I
> couldn't really analyze what was going on except by using "seat of the
> pants" impressions. Every other spin recovery seemed conventional for
> me except that Oleg kept chastising me to slow down with the
> recovery...... "YAK-52 like fine woman, go slow and things work good"..
> Did anyone else have that impression?
>
> Another interesting aspect of his training was the "if everything goes
> haywire and you don't know what's upside down or rightside up, just pull
> off power, hold onto the canopy rails and wait" maneuver. Took me awhile
> to get used to that one but sure as hell the 52 found it's nose and
> pointed the way back, so to speak. Not sure it would do that from the
> flat spin though.
>
> Out of curiosity, does anyone know how he gets you into the Lomchevak? I
> think I know but since Oleg's spin entry was unusual for me I wonder if
> his Lomchevak entry is different as well? I saw him and George Lazic
> above the field tumbling around like crazy. Wished I would have thought
> to ask him to show me that maneuver. Frank N911OM YAK52
>
>
> ==
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> ==
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>
>
> ________________________________ Message 11
____________________________________
>
>
> From: "Jim Ivey" <jim(at)jimivey.com>
> Subject: RE: Yak-List: Commie Parts
>
>
> Doug:
>
> You're welcome in my cockpit anytime. PIC, front, back ... Your call. It
> would be an honor. Same goes for my campfire. Anytime.
>
> Thanks for the honest, impeccable parts support over the years. If for
some
> forgotten reason you do in fact qualify under a definition of "bumming"
then
> you're bumming with the best of us.
>
> Jim Ivey
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 12
____________________________________
>
>
> From: cjpilot710(at)aol.com
> Subject: Re: Yak-List: Commie Parts
>
>
> In a message dated 5/25/2004 6:27:38 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
> jim(at)jimivey.com writes:
>
> > Doug:
> >
> > You're welcome in my cockpit anytime. PIC, front, back ... Your call.
It
> > would be an honor. Same goes for my campfire. Anytime.
> >
> Well Doug's wife is welcome in MY cockpit. He's to ugly. :)
> Jim Goolsby
>
> "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little safety,
> deserve neither liberty nor safety"
> Benjamin Franklin 1759
> "With my shield, or on it"
> Trojan Warriors BC
> "The reason older men are like fine wine. When young, they are like
grapes
> until some woman stomps all over them."
> Unknown older man.
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 13
____________________________________
>
>
> From: "Avcraft" <avcraft(at)citlink.net>
> Subject: Yak-List: Fred Ihlenberg Memorial Fly-In
>
>
> Fellow RPAers,
>
> We are set for another Fantastic Clinic in Columbus, NE (OLU) June 9-13,
2004.
>
> It's always been a great 5 days having everyone here! Janace & I are
excited to
> host such a wonderful group of aviation enthusiasts!
>
> The town of Columbus, EAA Chapter 876, local businesses, the Columbus
Airport Authority
> and Avcraft, Inc. support this event and are looking forward to a
successful
> event again this year!
>
> When I say SUPPORT:
>
> Discounted Fuel
> Discounted Oil
> Discounted Room Rates
> Some Free Meals (a Fantastic Steakfeed @ Avcraft! & Breakfast @ Avcraft on
Saturday
> & Sunday)
> Transportation to and from Motel
> Group Meals
> Multi-aircraft Hangar capability @ no charge (we hangared 24 during a
storm!)
>
> We will have available:
>
> Smoke oil; 100LL; 25/60 Aeroshell; 100 - 50W; 40W
> Aerobatic Box on field
> Bomb Drop Contest
> Spot Landing Contest
> Formation Training
> Parachute Packing available
> Formation Team Contest
>
> and any other ideas we can come up with!
>
> We are looking forward to another Great Event & Lots of FUN!
>
> Make your plans now to attend!
>
> Keith Harbour
> 402.564.7884 Office
> 402.910.5247 Cell
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 14
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>
>
> From: "Dave & Darlene" <dnimigon(at)telusplanet.net>
> Subject: Yak-List: Aluminum
>
>
> Hi All
> 'm in the process of getting together metal, etc for my XL. I live in
Alberta,
> just west of Edmonton. I'm looking for a builder who might have some
extra metal
> kicking around. I realize there are many different sizes of
angles,sheeting
> that we need. I can access the most common, but there are some that can
only
> be ordered by the 4x12 sheet. Most of the sheet is never needed and there
> seems to be much left over. I would be willing to pay fair price plus
shipping.
> I just think this would be a lettle more less expensive then buying a
whole
> sheet or a long length of angle only to use a small piece of it. It would
probably
> only be worthwhile getting this from a canadian as shipping cross the
> border can get expensive. Any thoughts from the group are welcome.
> Dave
> dnimigon(at)telusplanet.net
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Jerome Van Der Schaar" <jvds30(at)hotmail.com> |
| Subject: | Basic rules to fly a Yak ! |
Every takeoff is optional. Every landing is mandatory.
Flying isn't dangerous. Crashing it what's dangerous.
It's always better to be down here wishing you were up there, than up there
wishing you were down here.
The ONLY time you have too much fuel is when you are on fire.
The propeller is just a big fan in front of the plane used to keep the pilot
cool. When it stops, you can actually watch the pilot start sweating.
When in doubt, hold on to your altitude. No one has ever collided with the
sky.
A `good' landing is one from which you can walk away. A `great' landing is
one after which they can use the plane again.
Learn from the mistakes of others. You won't live long enough to make all of
them yourself.
Never let an aircraft take you somewhere your brain didn't get to five
minutes earlier.
Stay out of clouds. The silver lining everyone keeps talking about might be
another aeroplane in the opposite direction. Reliable sources also report
that mountains have been known to hide out in clouds.
There are three simple rules for making a smooth landing. Unfortunately no
one knows what they are.
You start with a bag full of luck and an empty bag of experience. The trick
is to fill the bag of experience before you empty the bag of luck.
Good judgment comes from experience. Unfortunately, the experience usually
comes from bad judgement.
It's always a good idea to keep the pointy end going forward as much as
possible.
Keep looking around, there's always something you've missed.
Try to keep the number of landings equal to the number of takeoffs.
If you push the stick forward, the houses get bigger. If you pull the stick
back, they get smaller. That is, unless you keep pulling the stick all the
way back, then they get bigger again.
You know you've landed wheels up if it takes full power to taxi.
The probability of survival is inversely proportional to the angle of
arrival. Large angle of arrival, small probability of survival and vice
versa.
Helicopters can't fly, they're just so ugly that earth repels them.
In the ongoing battle between objects made of aluminium going hundreds of
miles an hour and the ground going zero miles per hour, the ground has yet
to lose.
Air above you is just as useful as runway behind you.
Remember, gravity is not just a good idea. It's the law. And it's not
subject to repeal.
The three most useless things to a pilot are the altitude above you, runway
behind you, and a tenth of a second ago.
Check y'r six,
Jerome
www.yakkes.com
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | ByronMFox(at)aol.com |
| Subject: | All Red Star web site pictures |
Thanks to my brother, Steve Fox:
http://homepage.mac.com/steve.fox/PhotoAlbum2.html
...Blitz
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Jim Selby" <jimscjs(at)mbay.net> |
Anyone
I have a Yak with the Russian Radio in it, I want to wire my U.S headset
with Mic. into the Russian system, does anyone have the wiring schematic it
did this.
Jim Selby
e-mail jimscjs(at)mbay.net
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com]On Behalf Of Drew Blahnick
Subject: Yak-List: RPA Website
Folks,
The western region had a great turn out for it's signature event at Castle
Airport earlier this month. I would say a majority of aircraft owners West
of the Rockies attended...
We now are inside two weeks (June 9th) to the Nebraska (KOLU) Fred Ihlenburg
Memorial RPA fly-in hosted by Keith Harour that is welcoming all members to
attend and is conveniently located for access by all our members in the
Northwest, Northcentral and Southcentral regions - for well over 40 owners,
this is their closest event...
June 24th starts the Northeastern RPA fly-in at KGED in Delaware, hosted by
Charlie Lynch and Sean Carrol...
Members and non members who are planning to attend can find more information
and pre-register at http://www.flyredstar.org/A_Events.aspx and help the
planners prepare for your arrival.
Drew
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> 1. 06:15 AM - Yak Engine stopping in flight briefly (Ross Bausone)
> 2. 07:37 AM - Re: Yak Engine stopping in flight briefly (A. Dennis
Savarese)
> 3. 07:52 AM - Re: Yak Engine stopping in flight briefly (A. Dennis
Savarese)
> 4. 07:59 AM - AirVenture 2004 Warbird NOTAM (Terry Calloway)
> 5. 08:16 AM - Re: Yak Engine stopping in flight briefly (Doug Sapp)
> 6. 08:22 AM - (Jerry Painter)
> 7. 10:33 AM - Infamous Exploding Yak 50 ..The Sequal (Kevin Pilling)
> 8. 12:54 PM - Re: High Cotton (Ron Davis)
> 9. 12:59 PM - Re: Yak Engine stopping in flight briefly (Steve &
Donna Hanshew)
> 10. 02:15 PM - Re: Re: Yak 52 (Jorgen Nielsen)
> 11. 03:27 PM - Re: Commie Parts (Jim Ivey)
> 12. 03:35 PM - Re: Commie Parts (cjpilot710(at)aol.com)
> 13. 05:06 PM - Fred Ihlenberg Memorial Fly-In (Avcraft)
> 14. 07:10 PM - Aluminum (Dave & Darlene)
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 1
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>
>
> From: "Ross Bausone" <WingLeader_GoldenGateWing(at)msn.com>
> Subject: Yak-List: Yak Engine stopping in flight briefly
>
>
> I am a partner in a Yak-52. It's been a great machine.
>
> I was looking for info regarding the Yak engine "cutting out" for 1-2
seconds.
>
> Has anyone ever noticed anything like this? Has it happened consistently
with your
> aircraft? I had this happen right after lift off, once, and another had it
> happen at 3500 feet in cruise.
>
> This has happened a few times, and we are beginning to suspect the
carburetor however,
> we haven't gotten a clear indication yet.
>
> Thoughts?
>
> Regards,
> Ross
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 2
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>
>
> From: "A. Dennis Savarese" <adsavar(at)gte.net>
> Subject: Re: Yak-List: Yak Engine stopping in flight briefly
>
>
> Most likely is a bad coil in one of the magnetos. I know that may sound
> somewhat far fetched, but believe me, we had a similar problem in one of
our
> recently delivered airplanes and chased EVERYTHING while not believing it
> could be a bad magneto coil. I have also talked to several other experts
> that have corroborated the symptom and the cause.
> Dennis
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ross Bausone" <WingLeader_GoldenGateWing(at)msn.com>
> Subject: Yak-List: Yak Engine stopping in flight briefly
>
>
>
> >
> > I am a partner in a Yak-52. It's been a great machine.
> >
> > I was looking for info regarding the Yak engine "cutting out" for 1-2
> seconds.
> >
> > Has anyone ever noticed anything like this? Has it happened consistently
> with your aircraft? I had this happen right after lift off, once, and
> another had it happen at 3500 feet in cruise.
> >
> > This has happened a few times, and we are beginning to suspect the
> carburetor however, we haven't gotten a clear indication yet.
> >
> > Thoughts?
> >
> > Regards,
> > Ross
> >
> >
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 3
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>
>
> From: "A. Dennis Savarese" <adsavar(at)gte.net>
> Subject: Re: Yak-List: Yak Engine stopping in flight briefly
>
>
> You should also check the fine fuel screen for debris and make sure your
> flexible hoses do not have an obstruction which could have been caused by
a
> small piece of rubber/rubber flap from when the ends were assembled into
the
> hose.
> Dennis
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ross Bausone" <WingLeader_GoldenGateWing(at)msn.com>
> Subject: Yak-List: Yak Engine stopping in flight briefly
>
>
>
> >
> > I am a partner in a Yak-52. It's been a great machine.
> >
> > I was looking for info regarding the Yak engine "cutting out" for 1-2
> seconds.
> >
> > Has anyone ever noticed anything like this? Has it happened consistently
> with your aircraft? I had this happen right after lift off, once, and
> another had it happen at 3500 feet in cruise.
> >
> > This has happened a few times, and we are beginning to suspect the
> carburetor however, we haven't gotten a clear indication yet.
> >
> > Thoughts?
> >
> > Regards,
> > Ross
> >
> >
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 4
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>
>
> From: "Terry Calloway" <TCalloway(at)datatechnique.com>
> Subject: Yak-List: AirVenture 2004 Warbird NOTAM
>
>
> The AirVenture 2004 Warbird NOTAM has been published and is available
> http://www.airventure.org/2004/flying/notam_2004.pdf
>
> No real surprises but everyone going to Oshkosh should study it prior
> to departure AND have a copy on the cockpit.
>
> One addendum I would recommend is for all Red Star planes to divert to
> MTW for fun and flying starting Sunday July 24.
>
> See you there,
> tc
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 5
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>
>
> From: "Doug Sapp" <rvfltd(at)televar.com>
> Subject: RE: Yak-List: Yak Engine stopping in flight briefly
>
>
> Very similar problem in 2 Yak 52's at ARS. On the first water was found
in
> the fine screen, on the second no obvious problems could be found except
the
> pilot had been operating the aircraft at low green temps and the plugs
which
> were old Russian plugs were very badly worn. The combination of the two
may
> have accounted for the problem.
>
> Always Yakin,
> Doug Sapp
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com]On Behalf Of Ross Bausone
> Subject: Yak-List: Yak Engine stopping in flight briefly
>
>
>
>
> I am a partner in a Yak-52. It's been a great machine.
>
> I was looking for info regarding the Yak engine "cutting out" for 1-2
> seconds.
>
> Has anyone ever noticed anything like this? Has it happened consistently
> with your aircraft? I had this happen right after lift off, once, and
> another had it happen at 3500 feet in cruise.
>
> This has happened a few times, and we are beginning to suspect the
> carburetor however, we haven't gotten a clear indication yet.
>
> Thoughts?
>
> Regards,
> Ross
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 6
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>
>
> From: "Jerry Painter" <wild.blue(at)verizon.net>
> Subject: Yak-List:
>
>
> Frank,
> How 'bout that McCullochCoupe! Way cool! And then there's the -985
> version, too (Love them -985's--cheap, er, reasonably priced, too!).
> Whatever happened to Aviat's 'Coupe? Yes, innovation is alive and well,
> just not in (certificated) production (except sometimes). Someday the FAA
> will realize (they've come to the realization but have no clue of how to
> deal with it--probably just as well) that nothing interesting has happened
> in US certificated airplanes in 50 years (with a few exceptions--and for
> obvious reasons, spelled "FAA") and that the real arena is the
> "Experimental" one. You're right that "liability" ("What, me worry? Not
my
> fault--must be HIS fault!") is a big part of the problem. Actually, the
FAA
> has finally recognized that cotton really is NOT the standard any more (AC
> 43.13-1B/2A now includes instructions for Stits/Ceconite installation,
> including Stits' hidden knot--"acceptable" data, but not "approved" data),
> but it doesn't matter because you still have to have an STC to use it on
> most a/c. Why make it easy? TSO's/equivalency? Naaah! 'Course the
STC's
> are available for most a/c, so it works out OK--after 40 years. Have you
> seen the Dynon displays? Who needs gyros/inverters? Experimentation can
> (sometimes) be a good thing. There's a fine line in there somewhere.
> Results may vary.
> Jerry Painter
> Wild Blue Aviation
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 7
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>
>
> From: "Kevin Pilling" <kjpilling(at)btclick.com>
> Subject: Yak-List: Infamous Exploding Yak 50 ..The Sequal
>
>
> Blank
> Dear Listers and Lurkers
>
> You'll recall the devastation wreaked upon my '50 last August by the
catastrophic
> failure of the main air bottle....., pictures available on the Motronics
server.
> Well I'm pleased to announce she flies once more. Having received the
insurance
> settlement at year end I had Mark at Yak UK crate her up and shipped to
> Termikas in Lithuania. Last weekend we flew to Vilnius on a scheduled and
took
> a lift to the surprisingly beautiful Pociunai Glider Field, home base of
Termikas
> to accept the restored '50 and the newly completed Yak 52 TD.The results
> of the careful attentions of the Termikas engineers is a revelation. Quite
> literally a miracle. Their uncompromising standards of finish and
engineering
> excellence have to be seen to be believed. That my rebuild was finished on
budget
> and on time to the exact day promised puts to shame many pretenders to
their
> throne, not ignoring the extras I subsequently asked them to build into
the
> job !....like 400hp upgrade, full leather trim, transponder, stainless
steel
> firewall, all new rigid alloy and flexi pneumatic pipes and full
instruments overhaul.
> Test flown by Mark J' straight up to 10,500 feet and wrung out through
> an energetic aerobatic sequence all the way back to touch down, no post
test
> flight adjustments were required. So next day, all paperwork completed,
07:30
> local we departed, Mark in the new Yak 52TD myself in the '50 for the 1200
mile
> ferry flight home to the UK. Three fuel stops (for the 50, only two for
the
> TD! ), plus one for Customs clearances and a little short of 10 hours
airborne
> later we put the wheels back on UK soil at 20:55 hrs local, 10 minutes
past
> sunset (20<30 km headwinds all the way )! Lithuania-Pociunai & Kaunas
>Poland-Poznan>Germany-Braunschweig&Dinslaken>UK-Little
> Gransden. (16 hours 25 minutes
> inclusive) Almost unbelievably she remains perfectly clean and oil tight !
>
> So to all those fellow Yaksters out there who offered comforting words and
condolences
> last August I say THANKS, it was much appreciated and helped in the low
> points. Thanks also to Mark J' and all at Termikas.
>
> BTW the 52TD looks sensational in flight...completely clean underwing and
business
> like from every angle. Suffice to say the engineering standards are
exemplary.
>
> ..and to Mark S' your '50 was in the hanger being worked on alongside
another flush
> riveted example from Germany that had wet wings to give 5 + hours fuel.
>
> Fly safe. kp
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 8
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>
>
> From: "Ron Davis" <l39parts(at)hotmail.com>
> Subject: Re: Yak-List: High Cotton
>
>
> If a plane was originally certified with cotton, then that's what the type
> certificate required then, and now. Do you really want the FAA to
> retroactively change the requirements on a plane?
>
> NO, YOU DON'T, or at least I don't want them too.
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 9
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>
>
> From: "Steve & Donna Hanshew" <dhanshew(at)cinci.rr.com>
> Subject: Re: Yak-List: Yak Engine stopping in flight briefly
>
>
> Doug,
>
> I concede to your infinite wisdom. The SK-35 alternator rig from B & C
> worked. I have the old whore back in the hangar on the home strip.
> Everything is working. I have fresh working Chinese generators for anyone
> that wants them. I'm thinking of making a nice lamp with a chamois shade
out
> of one.
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> From: "Doug Sapp" <rvfltd(at)televar.com>
> Subject: RE: Yak-List: Yak Engine stopping in flight briefly
>
>
> >
> > Very similar problem in 2 Yak 52's at ARS. On the first water was found
> in
> > the fine screen, on the second no obvious problems could be found except
> the
> > pilot had been operating the aircraft at low green temps and the plugs
> which
> > were old Russian plugs were very badly worn. The combination of the two
> may
> > have accounted for the problem.
> >
> > Always Yakin,
> > Doug Sapp
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com
> > [mailto:owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com]On Behalf Of Ross Bausone
> > To: yak-list(at)matronics.com
> > Subject: Yak-List: Yak Engine stopping in flight briefly
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > I am a partner in a Yak-52. It's been a great machine.
> >
> > I was looking for info regarding the Yak engine "cutting out" for 1-2
> > seconds.
> >
> > Has anyone ever noticed anything like this? Has it happened consistently
> > with your aircraft? I had this happen right after lift off, once, and
> > another had it happen at 3500 feet in cruise.
> >
> > This has happened a few times, and we are beginning to suspect the
> > carburetor however, we haven't gotten a clear indication yet.
> >
> > Thoughts?
> >
> > Regards,
> > Ross
> >
> >
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 10
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>
>
> From: "Jorgen Nielsen" <jorgen.nielsen(at)mweb.co.za>
> Subject: RE: Yak-List: RE: Yak 52
>
>
> Impressions of flat spin - yes it winds up, I also like the winding up
> when going left and feeding in outspin ail, then then extra wind up when
> going forward stick.
>
> My impression: one does not have to hold it in when stable.
>
> Re "if everything goes haywire", that won't work for flat spin. Mine
> does not recover even with opposite rudder and full forward (i.e, no
> inspin ail)
>
> Can't comment on Lomchevak.
>
> Jorgen
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Frank
> Haertlein
> Subject: Yak-List: RE: Yak 52
>
>
> -->
>
> Yaksters;
> In talking about the right flat spin of the 52 all I can say is (in the
> immortal words of a fellow MIG pilot) is that it "really winds up". I
> got the very same impression when flying with Oleg. It really does "wind
> up". I got the distinct impression that I had to hold it in to keep it
> in the flat spin though the recovery did take a few turns. Anyone want
> to interject their impressions? Everything was happening so fast I
> couldn't really analyze what was going on except by using "seat of the
> pants" impressions. Every other spin recovery seemed conventional for
> me except that Oleg kept chastising me to slow down with the
> recovery...... "YAK-52 like fine woman, go slow and things work good"..
> Did anyone else have that impression?
>
> Another interesting aspect of his training was the "if everything goes
> haywire and you don't know what's upside down or rightside up, just pull
> off power, hold onto the canopy rails and wait" maneuver. Took me awhile
> to get used to that one but sure as hell the 52 found it's nose and
> pointed the way back, so to speak. Not sure it would do that from the
> flat spin though.
>
> Out of curiosity, does anyone know how he gets you into the Lomchevak? I
> think I know but since Oleg's spin entry was unusual for me I wonder if
> his Lomchevak entry is different as well? I saw him and George Lazic
> above the field tumbling around like crazy. Wished I would have thought
> to ask him to show me that maneuver. Frank N911OM YAK52
>
>
> ==
> direct advertising on the Matronics Forums.
> ==
> ==
> ==
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 11
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>
>
> From: "Jim Ivey" <jim(at)jimivey.com>
> Subject: RE: Yak-List: Commie Parts
>
>
> Doug:
>
> You're welcome in my cockpit anytime. PIC, front, back ... Your call. It
> would be an honor. Same goes for my campfire. Anytime.
>
> Thanks for the honest, impeccable parts support over the years. If for
some
> forgotten reason you do in fact qualify under a definition of "bumming"
then
> you're bumming with the best of us.
>
> Jim Ivey
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 12
____________________________________
>
>
> From: cjpilot710(at)aol.com
> Subject: Re: Yak-List: Commie Parts
>
>
> In a message dated 5/25/2004 6:27:38 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
> jim(at)jimivey.com writes:
>
> > Doug:
> >
> > You're welcome in my cockpit anytime. PIC, front, back ... Your call.
It
> > would be an honor. Same goes for my campfire. Anytime.
> >
> Well Doug's wife is welcome in MY cockpit. He's to ugly. :)
> Jim Goolsby
>
> "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little safety,
> deserve neither liberty nor safety"
> Benjamin Franklin 1759
> "With my shield, or on it"
> Trojan Warriors BC
> "The reason older men are like fine wine. When young, they are like
grapes
> until some woman stomps all over them."
> Unknown older man.
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 13
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>
>
> From: "Avcraft" <avcraft(at)citlink.net>
> Subject: Yak-List: Fred Ihlenberg Memorial Fly-In
>
>
> Fellow RPAers,
>
> We are set for another Fantastic Clinic in Columbus, NE (OLU) June 9-13,
2004.
>
> It's always been a great 5 days having everyone here! Janace & I are
excited to
> host such a wonderful group of aviation enthusiasts!
>
> The town of Columbus, EAA Chapter 876, local businesses, the Columbus
Airport Authority
> and Avcraft, Inc. support this event and are looking forward to a
successful
> event again this year!
>
> When I say SUPPORT:
>
> Discounted Fuel
> Discounted Oil
> Discounted Room Rates
> Some Free Meals (a Fantastic Steakfeed @ Avcraft! & Breakfast @ Avcraft on
Saturday
> & Sunday)
> Transportation to and from Motel
> Group Meals
> Multi-aircraft Hangar capability @ no charge (we hangared 24 during a
storm!)
>
> We will have available:
>
> Smoke oil; 100LL; 25/60 Aeroshell; 100 - 50W; 40W
> Aerobatic Box on field
> Bomb Drop Contest
> Spot Landing Contest
> Formation Training
> Parachute Packing available
> Formation Team Contest
>
> and any other ideas we can come up with!
>
> We are looking forward to another Great Event & Lots of FUN!
>
> Make your plans now to attend!
>
> Keith Harbour
> 402.564.7884 Office
> 402.910.5247 Cell
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 14
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>
>
> From: "Dave & Darlene" <dnimigon(at)telusplanet.net>
> Subject: Yak-List: Aluminum
>
>
> Hi All
> 'm in the process of getting together metal, etc for my XL. I live in
Alberta,
> just west of Edmonton. I'm looking for a builder who might have some
extra metal
> kicking around. I realize there are many different sizes of
angles,sheeting
> that we need. I can access the most common, but there are some that can
only
> be ordered by the 4x12 sheet. Most of the sheet is never needed and there
> seems to be much left over. I would be willing to pay fair price plus
shipping.
> I just think this would be a lettle more less expensive then buying a
whole
> sheet or a long length of angle only to use a small piece of it. It would
probably
> only be worthwhile getting this from a canadian as shipping cross the
> border can get expensive. Any thoughts from the group are welcome.
> Dave
> dnimigon(at)telusplanet.net
>
>
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| From: | Brian Lloyd <brianl(at)lloyd.com> |
Frank Haertlein wrote:
>
> Yaksters;
> Just got a 52 in with cotton surfaces. I picked off a small piece from
> an inconspicuous location and it crumbled as I rubbed it between my
> fingers. I did the "thump" test and it seemed OK to me but I'm not an
> expert by any stretch. I'm not mentioning names... (he reads this list)
> but the owner wants to fly it this summer and wait to replace the
> surfaces with stits until later this winter.
Do a punch test. If it passes, fly it. If not, recover the surfaces before flying
it again.
--
Brian Lloyd 6501 Red Hook Plaza
brianl(at)lloyd.com Suite 201
http://www.lloyd.com St. Thomas, VI 00802
+1.340.998.9447 (voice) +1.360.838.9669 (fax)
There is a time to laud one's country and a time to protest.
A good citizen is prepared to do either as the need arises.
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Doug Sapp" <rvfltd(at)televar.com> |
Brian,
The problem with a punch test in this case is that the fabric on a 52 tends
to fail right where it transitions up onto the frame. And in time it will
fail in a straight line along the edge of the frame like it was cut with a
knife. I looked at several 52's at ARS this year and all seemed to be
suffering from the same problems cotton or Stitts, made no difference.
Stitts of course is inherently much stronger than cotton and will stand up
under the constant beating of the prop wash better than cotton. I don't
know what the total fix is short of metalizing, but I have notice that the
problem was not as evident on 3 bladed aircraft, and was almost nonexistent
on 2 bladed CJ's with M14's.
Missed you at ARS, heard you were in the country?
Always Yakin,
Doug Sapp
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com]On Behalf Of Brian Lloyd
Subject: Re: Yak-List: High Cotton
Frank Haertlein wrote:
>
> Yaksters;
> Just got a 52 in with cotton surfaces. I picked off a small piece from
> an inconspicuous location and it crumbled as I rubbed it between my
> fingers. I did the "thump" test and it seemed OK to me but I'm not an
> expert by any stretch. I'm not mentioning names... (he reads this list)
> but the owner wants to fly it this summer and wait to replace the
> surfaces with stits until later this winter.
Do a punch test. If it passes, fly it. If not, recover the surfaces before
flying it again.
--
Brian Lloyd 6501 Red Hook Plaza
brianl(at)lloyd.com Suite 201
http://www.lloyd.com St. Thomas, VI 00802
+1.340.998.9447 (voice) +1.360.838.9669 (fax)
There is a time to laud one's country and a time to protest.
A good citizen is prepared to do either as the need arises.
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Brian Lloyd <brianl(at)lloyd.com> |
Doug Sapp wrote:
>
> Brian,
> The problem with a punch test in this case is that the fabric on a 52 tends
> to fail right where it transitions up onto the frame. And in time it will
> fail in a straight line along the edge of the frame like it was cut with a
> knife.
That sounds like fatigue failure of the fabric at the edge. I have seen that on
other aircraft too but the paint fails there first letting you know you are
looking at a problem. Are you saying that the fabric fails before the paint does?
I have never seen that before.
> I looked at several 52's at ARS this year and all seemed to be
> suffering from the same problems cotton or Stitts, made no difference.
You have to do something to go/no-go test the fabric surfaces. That means a punch
test every year during annual condition inspection regardless of type of fabric.
OTOH I would want to know the origins of the original fabric.
I favor dacron fabric, e.g. Stitts or Ceconite, myself.
> I don't know what the total fix is short of metalizing,
Balance and potentially exciting flutter with the added mass on the control surfaces
then become the overriding problems, especially for people operating at
the high-speed end of the envelope. I am sticking with fabric myself.
> Missed you at ARS, heard you were in the country?
I was actually quite nearby in San Diego for my daughter's college graduation on
Friday. I had planned to drop in late Saturday or early Sunday but was traveling
with my parents in the plane and didn't want to rush them on our trip. I
flew past Castle on Sunday eve but didn't figure anyone would still be there.
Now I am sitting in Chattanooga, TN, staring at the Weather Channel and a bunch
of RADAR windows on my laptop, trying to decide if I want to take off to take
a peek on the leg to DC or sit here and wait. There are two kinds of weather
I won't tempt: ice and CBs.
--
Brian Lloyd 6501 Red Hook Plaza
brianl(at)lloyd.com Suite 201
http://www.lloyd.com St. Thomas, VI 00802
+1.340.998.9447 (voice) +1.360.838.9669 (fax)
There is a time to laud one's country and a time to protest.
A good citizen is prepared to do either as the need arises.
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "A. Dennis Savarese" <adsavar(at)gte.net> |
Jim,
Do you still have the original Russian helmet connectors in the airplane?
Dennis
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim Selby" <jimscjs(at)mbay.net>
Subject: RE: Yak-List: RPA Website
>
> Anyone
> I have a Yak with the Russian Radio in it, I want to wire my U.S headset
> with Mic. into the Russian system, does anyone have the wiring schematic
it
> did this.
> Jim Selby
> e-mail jimscjs(at)mbay.net
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com]On Behalf Of Drew Blahnick
> To: yak-list(at)matronics.com
> Subject: Yak-List: RPA Website
>
>
> Folks,
>
> The western region had a great turn out for it's signature event at Castle
> Airport earlier this month. I would say a majority of aircraft owners
West
> of the Rockies attended...
>
> We now are inside two weeks (June 9th) to the Nebraska (KOLU) Fred
Ihlenburg
> Memorial RPA fly-in hosted by Keith Harour that is welcoming all members
to
> attend and is conveniently located for access by all our members in the
> Northwest, Northcentral and Southcentral regions - for well over 40
owners,
> this is their closest event...
>
> June 24th starts the Northeastern RPA fly-in at KGED in Delaware, hosted
by
> Charlie Lynch and Sean Carrol...
>
> Members and non members who are planning to attend can find more
information
> and pre-register at http://www.flyredstar.org/A_Events.aspx and help the
> planners prepare for your arrival.
>
> Drew
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
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> To: "Yak-List Digest List"
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> >
> > 1. 06:15 AM - Yak Engine stopping in flight briefly (Ross Bausone)
> > 2. 07:37 AM - Re: Yak Engine stopping in flight briefly (A. Dennis
> Savarese)
> > 3. 07:52 AM - Re: Yak Engine stopping in flight briefly (A. Dennis
> Savarese)
> > 4. 07:59 AM - AirVenture 2004 Warbird NOTAM (Terry Calloway)
> > 5. 08:16 AM - Re: Yak Engine stopping in flight briefly (Doug
Sapp)
> > 6. 08:22 AM - (Jerry Painter)
> > 7. 10:33 AM - Infamous Exploding Yak 50 ..The Sequal (Kevin
Pilling)
> > 8. 12:54 PM - Re: High Cotton (Ron Davis)
> > 9. 12:59 PM - Re: Yak Engine stopping in flight briefly (Steve &
> Donna Hanshew)
> > 10. 02:15 PM - Re: Re: Yak 52 (Jorgen Nielsen)
> > 11. 03:27 PM - Re: Commie Parts (Jim Ivey)
> > 12. 03:35 PM - Re: Commie Parts (cjpilot710(at)aol.com)
> > 13. 05:06 PM - Fred Ihlenberg Memorial Fly-In (Avcraft)
> > 14. 07:10 PM - Aluminum (Dave & Darlene)
> >
> >
> > ________________________________ Message 1
> _____________________________________
> >
> >
> > From: "Ross Bausone" <WingLeader_GoldenGateWing(at)msn.com>
> > Subject: Yak-List: Yak Engine stopping in flight briefly
> >
>
> >
> > I am a partner in a Yak-52. It's been a great machine.
> >
> > I was looking for info regarding the Yak engine "cutting out" for 1-2
> seconds.
> >
> > Has anyone ever noticed anything like this? Has it happened consistently
> with your
> > aircraft? I had this happen right after lift off, once, and another had
it
>
> > happen at 3500 feet in cruise.
> >
> > This has happened a few times, and we are beginning to suspect the
> carburetor however,
> > we haven't gotten a clear indication yet.
> >
> > Thoughts?
> >
> > Regards,
> > Ross
> >
> >
> > ________________________________ Message 2
> _____________________________________
> >
> >
> > From: "A. Dennis Savarese" <adsavar(at)gte.net>
> > Subject: Re: Yak-List: Yak Engine stopping in flight briefly
> >
> >
> > Most likely is a bad coil in one of the magnetos. I know that may sound
> > somewhat far fetched, but believe me, we had a similar problem in one of
> our
> > recently delivered airplanes and chased EVERYTHING while not believing
it
> > could be a bad magneto coil. I have also talked to several other
experts
> > that have corroborated the symptom and the cause.
> > Dennis
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Ross Bausone" <WingLeader_GoldenGateWing(at)msn.com>
> > Subject: Yak-List: Yak Engine stopping in flight briefly
> >
> >
> >
> > >
> > > I am a partner in a Yak-52. It's been a great machine.
> > >
> > > I was looking for info regarding the Yak engine "cutting out" for 1-2
> > seconds.
> > >
> > > Has anyone ever noticed anything like this? Has it happened
consistently
> > with your aircraft? I had this happen right after lift off, once, and
> > another had it happen at 3500 feet in cruise.
> > >
> > > This has happened a few times, and we are beginning to suspect the
> > carburetor however, we haven't gotten a clear indication yet.
> > >
> > > Thoughts?
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > Ross
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > ________________________________ Message 3
> _____________________________________
> >
> >
> > From: "A. Dennis Savarese" <adsavar(at)gte.net>
> > Subject: Re: Yak-List: Yak Engine stopping in flight briefly
> >
> >
> > You should also check the fine fuel screen for debris and make sure your
> > flexible hoses do not have an obstruction which could have been caused
by
> a
> > small piece of rubber/rubber flap from when the ends were assembled into
> the
> > hose.
> > Dennis
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Ross Bausone" <WingLeader_GoldenGateWing(at)msn.com>
> > Subject: Yak-List: Yak Engine stopping in flight briefly
> >
> >
> >
> > >
> > > I am a partner in a Yak-52. It's been a great machine.
> > >
> > > I was looking for info regarding the Yak engine "cutting out" for 1-2
> > seconds.
> > >
> > > Has anyone ever noticed anything like this? Has it happened
consistently
> > with your aircraft? I had this happen right after lift off, once, and
> > another had it happen at 3500 feet in cruise.
> > >
> > > This has happened a few times, and we are beginning to suspect the
> > carburetor however, we haven't gotten a clear indication yet.
> > >
> > > Thoughts?
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > Ross
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > ________________________________ Message 4
> _____________________________________
> >
> >
> > From: "Terry Calloway" <TCalloway(at)datatechnique.com>
> > Subject: Yak-List: AirVenture 2004 Warbird NOTAM
> >
>
> >
> > The AirVenture 2004 Warbird NOTAM has been published and is available
> > http://www.airventure.org/2004/flying/notam_2004.pdf
> >
> > No real surprises but everyone going to Oshkosh should study it prior
> > to departure AND have a copy on the cockpit.
> >
> > One addendum I would recommend is for all Red Star planes to divert to
> > MTW for fun and flying starting Sunday July 24.
> >
> > See you there,
> > tc
> >
> >
> > ________________________________ Message 5
> _____________________________________
> >
> >
> > From: "Doug Sapp" <rvfltd(at)televar.com>
> > Subject: RE: Yak-List: Yak Engine stopping in flight briefly
> >
> >
> > Very similar problem in 2 Yak 52's at ARS. On the first water was found
> in
> > the fine screen, on the second no obvious problems could be found except
> the
> > pilot had been operating the aircraft at low green temps and the plugs
> which
> > were old Russian plugs were very badly worn. The combination of the two
> may
> > have accounted for the problem.
> >
> > Always Yakin,
> > Doug Sapp
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com
> > [mailto:owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com]On Behalf Of Ross Bausone
> > Subject: Yak-List: Yak Engine stopping in flight briefly
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > I am a partner in a Yak-52. It's been a great machine.
> >
> > I was looking for info regarding the Yak engine "cutting out" for 1-2
> > seconds.
> >
> > Has anyone ever noticed anything like this? Has it happened consistently
> > with your aircraft? I had this happen right after lift off, once, and
> > another had it happen at 3500 feet in cruise.
> >
> > This has happened a few times, and we are beginning to suspect the
> > carburetor however, we haven't gotten a clear indication yet.
> >
> > Thoughts?
> >
> > Regards,
> > Ross
> >
> >
> > ________________________________ Message 6
> _____________________________________
> >
> >
> > From: "Jerry Painter" <wild.blue(at)verizon.net>
> > Subject: Yak-List:
> >
> >
> > Frank,
> > How 'bout that McCullochCoupe! Way cool! And then there's the -985
> > version, too (Love them -985's--cheap, er, reasonably priced, too!).
> > Whatever happened to Aviat's 'Coupe? Yes, innovation is alive and well,
> > just not in (certificated) production (except sometimes). Someday the
FAA
> > will realize (they've come to the realization but have no clue of how to
> > deal with it--probably just as well) that nothing interesting has
happened
> > in US certificated airplanes in 50 years (with a few exceptions--and for
> > obvious reasons, spelled "FAA") and that the real arena is the
> > "Experimental" one. You're right that "liability" ("What, me worry?
Not
> my
> > fault--must be HIS fault!") is a big part of the problem. Actually, the
> FAA
> > has finally recognized that cotton really is NOT the standard any more
(AC
> > 43.13-1B/2A now includes instructions for Stits/Ceconite installation,
> > including Stits' hidden knot--"acceptable" data, but not "approved"
data),
> > but it doesn't matter because you still have to have an STC to use it on
> > most a/c. Why make it easy? TSO's/equivalency? Naaah! 'Course the
> STC's
> > are available for most a/c, so it works out OK--after 40 years. Have
you
> > seen the Dynon displays? Who needs gyros/inverters? Experimentation
can
> > (sometimes) be a good thing. There's a fine line in there somewhere.
> > Results may vary.
> > Jerry Painter
> > Wild Blue Aviation
> >
> >
> > ________________________________ Message 7
> _____________________________________
> >
> >
> > From: "Kevin Pilling" <kjpilling(at)btclick.com>
> > Subject: Yak-List: Infamous Exploding Yak 50 ..The Sequal
> >
> >
> > Blank
> > Dear Listers and Lurkers
> >
> > You'll recall the devastation wreaked upon my '50 last August by the
> catastrophic
> > failure of the main air bottle....., pictures available on the Motronics
> server.
> > Well I'm pleased to announce she flies once more. Having received the
> insurance
> > settlement at year end I had Mark at Yak UK crate her up and shipped to
> > Termikas in Lithuania. Last weekend we flew to Vilnius on a scheduled
and
> took
> > a lift to the surprisingly beautiful Pociunai Glider Field, home base of
> Termikas
> > to accept the restored '50 and the newly completed Yak 52 TD.The
results
> > of the careful attentions of the Termikas engineers is a revelation.
Quite
> > literally a miracle. Their uncompromising standards of finish and
> engineering
> > excellence have to be seen to be believed. That my rebuild was finished
on
> budget
> > and on time to the exact day promised puts to shame many pretenders to
> their
> > throne, not ignoring the extras I subsequently asked them to build into
> the
> > job !....like 400hp upgrade, full leather trim, transponder, stainless
> steel
> > firewall, all new rigid alloy and flexi pneumatic pipes and full
> instruments overhaul.
> > Test flown by Mark J' straight up to 10,500 feet and wrung out through
> > an energetic aerobatic sequence all the way back to touch down, no post
> test
> > flight adjustments were required. So next day, all paperwork completed,
> 07:30
> > local we departed, Mark in the new Yak 52TD myself in the '50 for the
1200
> mile
> > ferry flight home to the UK. Three fuel stops (for the 50, only two for
> the
> > TD! ), plus one for Customs clearances and a little short of 10 hours
> airborne
> > later we put the wheels back on UK soil at 20:55 hrs local, 10 minutes
> past
> > sunset (20<30 km headwinds all the way )! Lithuania-Pociunai & Kaunas
> >Poland-Poznan>Germany-Braunschweig&Dinslaken>UK-Little
> > Gransden. (16 hours 25 minutes
> > inclusive) Almost unbelievably she remains perfectly clean and oil tight
!
> >
> > So to all those fellow Yaksters out there who offered comforting words
and
> condolences
> > last August I say THANKS, it was much appreciated and helped in the low
> > points. Thanks also to Mark J' and all at Termikas.
> >
> > BTW the 52TD looks sensational in flight...completely clean underwing
and
> business
> > like from every angle. Suffice to say the engineering standards are
> exemplary.
> >
> > ..and to Mark S' your '50 was in the hanger being worked on alongside
> another flush
> > riveted example from Germany that had wet wings to give 5 + hours fuel.
> >
> > Fly safe. kp
> >
> >
> > ________________________________ Message 8
> _____________________________________
> >
> >
> > From: "Ron Davis" <l39parts(at)hotmail.com>
> > Subject: Re: Yak-List: High Cotton
> >
> >
> > If a plane was originally certified with cotton, then that's what the
type
> > certificate required then, and now. Do you really want the FAA to
> > retroactively change the requirements on a plane?
> >
> > NO, YOU DON'T, or at least I don't want them too.
> >
> >
> > ________________________________ Message 9
> _____________________________________
> >
> >
> > From: "Steve & Donna Hanshew" <dhanshew(at)cinci.rr.com>
> > Subject: Re: Yak-List: Yak Engine stopping in flight briefly
> >
>
> >
> > Doug,
> >
> > I concede to your infinite wisdom. The SK-35 alternator rig from B & C
> > worked. I have the old whore back in the hangar on the home strip.
> > Everything is working. I have fresh working Chinese generators for
anyone
> > that wants them. I'm thinking of making a nice lamp with a chamois shade
> out
> > of one.
> > ----- Original Message -----
> >
> > From: "Doug Sapp" <rvfltd(at)televar.com>
> > Subject: RE: Yak-List: Yak Engine stopping in flight briefly
> >
> >
> > >
> > > Very similar problem in 2 Yak 52's at ARS. On the first water was
found
> > in
> > > the fine screen, on the second no obvious problems could be found
except
> > the
> > > pilot had been operating the aircraft at low green temps and the plugs
> > which
> > > were old Russian plugs were very badly worn. The combination of the
two
> > may
> > > have accounted for the problem.
> > >
> > > Always Yakin,
> > > Doug Sapp
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com
> > > [mailto:owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com]On Behalf Of Ross Bausone
> > > To: yak-list(at)matronics.com
> > > Subject: Yak-List: Yak Engine stopping in flight briefly
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I am a partner in a Yak-52. It's been a great machine.
> > >
> > > I was looking for info regarding the Yak engine "cutting out" for 1-2
> > > seconds.
> > >
> > > Has anyone ever noticed anything like this? Has it happened
consistently
> > > with your aircraft? I had this happen right after lift off, once, and
> > > another had it happen at 3500 feet in cruise.
> > >
> > > This has happened a few times, and we are beginning to suspect the
> > > carburetor however, we haven't gotten a clear indication yet.
> > >
> > > Thoughts?
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > Ross
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > ________________________________ Message 10
> ____________________________________
> >
> >
> > From: "Jorgen Nielsen" <jorgen.nielsen(at)mweb.co.za>
> > Subject: RE: Yak-List: RE: Yak 52
> >
>
> >
> > Impressions of flat spin - yes it winds up, I also like the winding up
> > when going left and feeding in outspin ail, then then extra wind up when
> > going forward stick.
> >
> > My impression: one does not have to hold it in when stable.
> >
> > Re "if everything goes haywire", that won't work for flat spin. Mine
> > does not recover even with opposite rudder and full forward (i.e, no
> > inspin ail)
> >
> > Can't comment on Lomchevak.
> >
> > Jorgen
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com
> > [mailto:owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Frank
> > Haertlein
> > Subject: Yak-List: RE: Yak 52
> >
> >
> > -->
> >
> > Yaksters;
> > In talking about the right flat spin of the 52 all I can say is (in the
> > immortal words of a fellow MIG pilot) is that it "really winds up". I
> > got the very same impression when flying with Oleg. It really does "wind
> > up". I got the distinct impression that I had to hold it in to keep it
> > in the flat spin though the recovery did take a few turns. Anyone want
> > to interject their impressions? Everything was happening so fast I
> > couldn't really analyze what was going on except by using "seat of the
> > pants" impressions. Every other spin recovery seemed conventional for
> > me except that Oleg kept chastising me to slow down with the
> > recovery...... "YAK-52 like fine woman, go slow and things work good"..
> > Did anyone else have that impression?
> >
> > Another interesting aspect of his training was the "if everything goes
> > haywire and you don't know what's upside down or rightside up, just pull
> > off power, hold onto the canopy rails and wait" maneuver. Took me awhile
> > to get used to that one but sure as hell the 52 found it's nose and
> > pointed the way back, so to speak. Not sure it would do that from the
> > flat spin though.
> >
> > Out of curiosity, does anyone know how he gets you into the Lomchevak? I
> > think I know but since Oleg's spin entry was unusual for me I wonder if
> > his Lomchevak entry is different as well? I saw him and George Lazic
> > above the field tumbling around like crazy. Wished I would have thought
> > to ask him to show me that maneuver. Frank N911OM YAK52
> >
> >
> > ==
> > direct advertising on the Matronics Forums.
> > ==
> > ==
> > ==
> >
> >
> > ________________________________ Message 11
> ____________________________________
> >
> >
> > From: "Jim Ivey" <jim(at)jimivey.com>
> > Subject: RE: Yak-List: Commie Parts
> >
> >
> > Doug:
> >
> > You're welcome in my cockpit anytime. PIC, front, back ... Your call.
It
> > would be an honor. Same goes for my campfire. Anytime.
> >
> > Thanks for the honest, impeccable parts support over the years. If for
> some
> > forgotten reason you do in fact qualify under a definition of "bumming"
> then
> > you're bumming with the best of us.
> >
> > Jim Ivey
> >
> >
> > ________________________________ Message 12
> ____________________________________
> >
> >
> > From: cjpilot710(at)aol.com
> > Subject: Re: Yak-List: Commie Parts
> >
> >
> > In a message dated 5/25/2004 6:27:38 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
> > jim(at)jimivey.com writes:
> >
> > > Doug:
> > >
> > > You're welcome in my cockpit anytime. PIC, front, back ... Your call.
> It
> > > would be an honor. Same goes for my campfire. Anytime.
> > >
> > Well Doug's wife is welcome in MY cockpit. He's to ugly. :)
> > Jim Goolsby
> >
> > "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little safety,
> > deserve neither liberty nor safety"
> > Benjamin Franklin 1759
> > "With my shield, or on it"
> > Trojan Warriors BC
> > "The reason older men are like fine wine. When young, they are like
> grapes
> > until some woman stomps all over them."
> > Unknown older man.
> >
> >
> > ________________________________ Message 13
> ____________________________________
> >
> >
> > From: "Avcraft" <avcraft(at)citlink.net>
> > Subject: Yak-List: Fred Ihlenberg Memorial Fly-In
> >
> >
> > Fellow RPAers,
> >
> > We are set for another Fantastic Clinic in Columbus, NE (OLU) June 9-13,
> 2004.
> >
> > It's always been a great 5 days having everyone here! Janace & I are
> excited to
> > host such a wonderful group of aviation enthusiasts!
> >
> > The town of Columbus, EAA Chapter 876, local businesses, the Columbus
> Airport Authority
> > and Avcraft, Inc. support this event and are looking forward to a
> successful
> > event again this year!
> >
> > When I say SUPPORT:
> >
> > Discounted Fuel
> > Discounted Oil
> > Discounted Room Rates
> > Some Free Meals (a Fantastic Steakfeed @ Avcraft! & Breakfast @ Avcraft
on
> Saturday
> > & Sunday)
> > Transportation to and from Motel
> > Group Meals
> > Multi-aircraft Hangar capability @ no charge (we hangared 24 during a
> storm!)
> >
> > We will have available:
> >
> > Smoke oil; 100LL; 25/60 Aeroshell; 100 - 50W; 40W
> > Aerobatic Box on field
> > Bomb Drop Contest
> > Spot Landing Contest
> > Formation Training
> > Parachute Packing available
> > Formation Team Contest
> >
> > and any other ideas we can come up with!
> >
> > We are looking forward to another Great Event & Lots of FUN!
> >
> > Make your plans now to attend!
> >
> > Keith Harbour
> > 402.564.7884 Office
> > 402.910.5247 Cell
> >
> >
> > ________________________________ Message 14
> ____________________________________
> >
> >
> > From: "Dave & Darlene" <dnimigon(at)telusplanet.net>
> > Subject: Yak-List: Aluminum
> >
>
> >
> > Hi All
> > 'm in the process of getting together metal, etc for my XL. I live in
> Alberta,
> > just west of Edmonton. I'm looking for a builder who might have some
> extra metal
> > kicking around. I realize there are many different sizes of
> angles,sheeting
> > that we need. I can access the most common, but there are some that can
> only
> > be ordered by the 4x12 sheet. Most of the sheet is never needed and
there
> > seems to be much left over. I would be willing to pay fair price plus
> shipping.
> > I just think this would be a lettle more less expensive then buying a
> whole
> > sheet or a long length of angle only to use a small piece of it. It
would
> probably
> > only be worthwhile getting this from a canadian as shipping cross the
> > border can get expensive. Any thoughts from the group are welcome.
> > Dave
> > dnimigon(at)telusplanet.net
> >
> >
>
>
> ---
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>
> ---
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Re: Housai engine part Id. required.. |
My CJ is a 1962 and has the 285HP engine. Does this mean I have the 260 HP
intake system.
Jim P.
"Launch Pad"
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Jim Selby" <jimscjs(at)mbay.net> |
| Subject: | Housai engine part Id. required.. |
No
Most of the Engines have been changed by now, but on the Data Plate you will
have a -6 then a Chinese Symbol,which means it's a 6A Engine the later
Engine, or you can open up one of the upper rocker covers and see if it has
oil Lubrication in it.
Jim
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com]On Behalf Of N4829T(at)aol.com
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Housai engine part Id. required..
My CJ is a 1962 and has the 285HP engine. Does this mean I have the 260 HP
intake system.
Jim P.
"Launch Pad"
---
Incoming mail is certified Virus Free.
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________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Jim Selby" <alikatz(at)mbay.net> |
Hello to All,
We're having a BBQ at our Hanger on Sunday May 30th. Marina, Municipal Airport.
For those of you in the area or if you feel like taking a little flight,
you're more than welcome to show up and enjoy a great Lunch.
Sorry for the late notice.......
Best,
Jim Selby, Jr
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Walt Lannon" <wlannon(at)cablerocket.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Housai engine part Id. required.. |
Not necessarily, it may have been modified by the Chinese military. The
cowling mod has a semi-circular air intake with a 1/16" mesh screen
(approx.) extending to about 4" from the forward edge of the cowl. The
original intake is much further aft on the cowl and provides little, if any,
ram effect
In addition the air filter? (cheese grater!) is changed to a larger unit
with sloped sides compared to the 260 system with straight sides.
Walt
----- Original Message -----
From: <N4829T(at)aol.com>
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Housai engine part Id. required..
>
> My CJ is a 1962 and has the 285HP engine. Does this mean I have the 260 HP
> intake system.
>
>
> Jim P.
> "Launch Pad"
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Walt Lannon" <wlannon(at)cablerocket.com> |
Have not seen any Yak 52 fabric work so can't comment on that. The Chinese
product lacks sufficient (if any) UV protection and does not use reinforcing
fabric tape over the metal edges.
Ceconite 102 or Stits medium (same product from same mill) are stronger than
cotton, not affected by rot due to moisture but are equally or more effected
by deterioration from UV.
I have personally seen good cotton installations last for 25 years. A
properly done Ceconite or Stits job could have an indefinite life. Some of
the factors that determine that are;
1. Structure - Absolutely free of corrosion and protected by a good fluid
resistant primer (eg: Courtalds Super Koropon)
2. Fabric installation tight. Loose fabric adds to other problems leading to
cracking of finish at metal edges.
3. Fabric well attached to structure with nitrate cement. Good rib stitching
with each stitch locked.
4. Fabric reinforcing tape at all metal edges.
5. Adequate covering of aluminium UV barrier.
6. CRITICAL - Final finish with Poly Urethane or other non-dope type finish
must have adequate flex agents added If not eventual cracking and failure
is guaranteed no matter what fabric is used.
Walt
Yak-List message posted by: Brian Lloyd
>
> Doug Sapp wrote:
>
> >
> > Brian,
> > The problem with a punch test in this case is that the fabric on a 52
tends
> > to fail right where it transitions up onto the frame. And in time it
will
> > fail in a straight line along the edge of the frame like it was cut with
a
> > knife.
>
> That sounds like fatigue failure of the fabric at the edge. I have seen
that on other aircraft too but the paint fails there first letting you know
you are looking at a problem. Are you saying that the fabric fails before
the paint does? I have never seen that before.
>
> > I looked at several 52's at ARS this year and all seemed to be
> > suffering from the same problems cotton or Stitts, made no difference.
>
> You have to do something to go/no-go test the fabric surfaces. That means
a punch test every year during annual condition inspection regardless of
type of fabric. OTOH I would want to know the origins of the original
fabric.
>
> I favor dacron fabric, e.g. Stitts or Ceconite, myself.
>
> > I don't know what the total fix is short of metalizing,
>
> Balance and potentially exciting flutter with the added mass on the
control surfaces then become the overriding problems, especially for people
operating at the high-speed end of the envelope. I am sticking with fabric
myself.
won't tempt: ice and CBs.
>
> --
> Brian Lloyd 6501 Red Hook Plaza
> brianl(at)lloyd.com Suite 201
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
To all, where can I buy the placards that were sold by the (Yak Pilots Club)
such
as the CAUTION
TURN ON AIR BEFORE
STARTING ENGINE
and the rescue info.
Tom Elliott
CJ-6 N63727
Sandy Valley NV
3L2
________________________________________________________________________________
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________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Steve Wieland" <wheelstoo(at)msn.com> |
My YAK-52 had new brakes recently put on. They seemed ok for the first few flights
but recently have been fading badly. After a short taxi to the active I was
unable to do the run up past 60%. Any thoughts??
Wheels Wieland
42SW
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Doug Sapp" <rvfltd(at)televar.com> |
Tom and all,
In my humble opinion there is only one maker of high placard sets and that
is Walt Lannon. contact him at wlannon(at)cablerocket.com
Always Yakin,
Doug Sapp
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com]On Behalf Of N13472(at)aol.com
Subject: Yak-List: Placards
To all, where can I buy the placards that were sold by the (Yak Pilots Club)
such
as the CAUTION
TURN ON AIR BEFORE
STARTING ENGINE
and the rescue info.
Tom Elliott
CJ-6 N63727
Sandy Valley NV
3L2
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "A. Dennis Savarese" <adsavar(at)gte.net> |
| Subject: | Re: fading brakes |
Steve,
You may have a problem with your brake reducing valve. It is under the
floor on the right side in the rear cockpit. It's purpose in life is to
reduce the brake pressure by 8 to 1. Thus if you have 750 PSI in your main
air tank, when you squeeze the brake handle the air pressure at the wheel
should be just under 100 PSI. You can check this fairly easily by removing
a brake line from the back side of the drum and connecting a pressure gauge.
Squeeze the brake and see what you get.
The other thing that happens quite frequently when new brake pads are
installed is they heat up fairly quickly because they are very tight against
the drum even without the brake handle compressed. Spin the wheel and if it
does not rotate freely, most likely the brakes are heating up as you roll
down the taxiway.
Dennis
----- Original Message -----
From: "Steve Wieland" <wheelstoo(at)msn.com>
Subject: Yak-List: fading brakes
>
> My YAK-52 had new brakes recently put on. They seemed ok for the first few
flights but recently have been fading badly. After a short taxi to the
active I was unable to do the run up past 60%. Any thoughts??
> Wheels Wieland
> 42SW
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Gus Fraser" <fraseg(at)comcast.net> |
| Subject: | Yak Engine stopping in flight briefly |
At 3500, not sure if it were higher I would suggest the diaphragm in the
carb. If your engine is running lean anyway then maybe not.
Gus
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com]On Behalf Of Ross Bausone
Subject: Yak-List: Yak Engine stopping in flight briefly
I am a partner in a Yak-52. It's been a great machine.
I was looking for info regarding the Yak engine "cutting out" for 1-2
seconds.
Has anyone ever noticed anything like this? Has it happened consistently
with your aircraft? I had this happen right after lift off, once, and
another had it happen at 3500 feet in cruise.
This has happened a few times, and we are beginning to suspect the
carburetor however, we haven't gotten a clear indication yet.
Thoughts?
Regards,
Ross
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Re: Yak Engine stopping in flight briefly |
| From: | Ronald Wasson <ronwasson(at)mindspring.com> |
Ross
I had a friend with exactly the same problem. Turned out to be a
sticking valve. It would hang up for a few seconds. Sounded like the engine
had major problems but was just one valve. We suspected it because it
sounded like another ac whose exhaust valve was totally hung up and very
easy to find. He took the exhaust springs off one by one and felt how hard
the valve moved. One seemed stiffer and binding. Problem did not come back
after a new guide.
Ron
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Avcraft" <avcraft(at)citlink.net> |
| Subject: | National Fred Ihlenburg Memorial FAST Clinic Itinerary |
Columbus, NE (OLU)
June 9-13, 2004
06.09.04 Wednesday
0800-1200 Registration, Weather and Safety Briefing, Aerobatic Box Briefing
1200-1300 Lunch On-Site
1300-1600 FAST Formation Ground School
1300-1800 Formation Flight Practice For FAST Qualified Pilots
1800-1830 De-brief, Secure Aircraft, Dinner @ Maximus - Burgers & Beer
06.10.04 Thursday
0800-0830 Introduction, Weather and Safety Briefing, Aerobatic Box Briefing
0830-0900 Flight Scheduling and Briefing
0900-1200 Flight Training (non-qualified pilots to be paired with
instructors)
1200-1300 Lunch On-Site
1300-1700 Flight Training (non-qualified pilots to be paired with
instructors)
1700-1800 Spot Landing Contest
1800-1900 De-brief, Secure Aircraft, Dinner @ Panda Garden Chinese
06.11.04 Friday
0800-0830 Weather and Safety Briefing
0830-0900 Flight Scheduling and Briefing, Aerobatic Box Briefing
0900-1200 Flight Training (non-qualified pilots to be paired with
instructors)
1200-1300 Lunch On-Site
1300-1700 Flight Training (non-qualified pilots to be paired with
instructors
1700-1800 Bomb Drop Contest
1800-1900 De-Brief , Secure Aircraft, Cook-out Hosted by EAA Chapter 876 @
Avcraft
06.12.04 Saturday
0700-1100 EAA/ Civil Air Patrol On-Site Breakfast - Complimentary to RPA
participants @ Avcraft
0800-0830 Weather and Safety Briefing
0830-0900Flight Scheduling and Briefing, Aerobatic Box Briefing
0900-1200 Flight Training
1200-1300 Lunch On-Site
1300-1600 Flight Training
1600-1700 Formation Team Flight Contest
1700-1800 De-Brief, Secure Aircraft
1900- Awards Banquet @ Dusters
06.13.04 Sunday
0700-1100 EAA/Civil Air Patrol On-Site Breakfast @ Avcraft - Complimentary
to RPA participants
0800-0830 Weather and Safety Briefing
0830-0900Flight Scheduling and Briefing, Aerobatic Box Briefing
0900-1200 Flight Training / Possible Mass Formation
1200-1300 Lunch On-Site
1300- Departures
Lodging:
Reference: Red Star Pilots Association
New World Inn 1.800.433.1492
Rate: $40/night King, Queen, Two Beds
Breakfast Buffet
Meals:
Breakfast -
Wed/Thurs/Fri on your own
Sat/Sun @ Avcraft - $3.00 to the Public, Complimentary to Red Star Pilots
Lunch -
@ Avcraft - Lunch will be catered @ a flat rate
Dinner -
Wednesday - Burgers @ Maximus
Thursday - Chinese @ Panda Garden
Friday - Steaks @ Avcraft
Saturday - Banquet @ Dusters
Transportation -
Columbus Auto Mart 1.800.994.1079
$25/day Mid-Size Car 100 Free Miles
Fuel -
$1500 fuel discounts to date; still working on donations
Oil -
Aeroshell 100 50 wt.
Philips 25/60
Maintenance -
A&P/IA On-Site
Hangar -
We will do our best to hangar in the event of inclement weather; we have
hangared 24 in the past.
Master Rigger -
Please indicate on registration if you need your parachute certified
Weather -
It's Nebraska! Some Wind, Some Clouds, Some Rain all possible. Usually Sunny
and Warm!
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________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Walt Murphy <waltmurphy(at)charter.net> |
Pardon the dumb questions but...
My CJ's main tires have gone from reasonable tread to nearly smooth in
only about 20 hours flying time.
( aprox 2 landings per flying hour) . Are the tires due for replacement
when smooth ( as American tires ) or is there any wear indicators or ????
Also, is it possible to jack one main only without a wing jack ? If so
what's the best jack location?
thanks in advance ,
Walt
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Brian Lloyd <brianl(at)lloyd.com> |
| Subject: | My flight across country (was: High Cotton) |
Brian Lloyd wrote:
> Now I am sitting in Chattanooga, TN, staring at the Weather Channel
> and a bunch of RADAR windows on my laptop, trying to decide if I want
> to take off to take a peek on the leg to DC or sit here and wait.
> There are two kinds of weather I won't tempt: ice and CBs.
And for those of you who were waiting in breathless anticipation, sorry. I cheated
death once again. In fact, it was the best day of flying so far with 50
kt tailwinds and smooth-as-glass flying with unlimited vis. OK, I chose to fly
about 5 minutes of IFR during let-down in the DC area but that was it and Potomac
Approach even suggested it as an alternative to a spiral descent to get
under some developing clag on my letdown.
ATC in DC has gotten really nice and helpful. I guess the controllers figure we
have enough to deal with from the Transportation Stupidity Administration (TSA)
and don't need more from them. On this trip both Center and approach have
actively (and without solicitation) pointed out precip and suggested appropriate
deviation, something I have never experienced before. ATC has always been
neutral to mildly helpful (with the exception of NorCal approach when I was commuting
where they knew me and went out of their way to be helpful) but now are
actively working to make my VFR flight more pleasant. I think I need to write
some attaboys to a couple of centers and tracons.
--
Brian Lloyd 6501 Red Hook Plaza
brianl(at)lloyd.com Suite 201
http://www.lloyd.com St. Thomas, VI 00802
+1.340.998.9447 (voice) +1.360.838.9669 (fax)
There is a time to laud one's country and a time to protest.
A good citizen is prepared to do either as the need arises.
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Gary Reynolds <gary.reynolds(at)hills.com.au> |
| Subject: | Yak Engine stopping in flight briefly |
Gday All
What sort of material are you using for the valve guides and are you
annealing the head after the install. I have pulled the cylinders off my 52
and found 60% of the exhaust valve guides are in need of replacement we are
looking at using manganese-bronze .
Any thoughts or experiences would be great
Gary Reynolds Yak 52 887806 South Australia
-----Original Message-----
From: Ronald Wasson [mailto:ronwasson(at)mindspring.com]
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Yak Engine stopping in flight briefly
Ross
I had a friend with exactly the same problem. Turned out to be a
sticking valve. It would hang up for a few seconds. Sounded like the engine
had major problems but was just one valve. We suspected it because it
sounded like another ac whose exhaust valve was totally hung up and very
easy to find. He took the exhaust springs off one by one and felt how hard
the valve moved. One seemed stiffer and binding. Problem did not come back
after a new guide.
Ron
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Gary Reynolds <gary.reynolds(at)hills.com.au> |
New tyres Give Desser a call
-----Original Message-----
From: Walt Murphy [mailto:waltmurphy(at)charter.net]
Subject: Yak-List: Chinese Tires
Pardon the dumb questions but...
My CJ's main tires have gone from reasonable tread to nearly smooth in
only about 20 hours flying time.
( aprox 2 landings per flying hour) . Are the tires due for replacement
when smooth ( as American tires ) or is there any wear indicators or ????
Also, is it possible to jack one main only without a wing jack ? If so
what's the best jack location?
thanks in advance ,
Walt
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Frank Haertlein" <yak52driver(at)earthlink.net> |
| Subject: | YAK-52 Technical Exam |
So you thought you knew everything about the 52? Test your knowledge
here........
http://www.incendio.co.za/yak52/YAK%2052%20TECHNICAL%20-%20EXAMINATION.P
DF
Stumped? Didn't know as much as you thought? Here's the
answers..............
<http://www.incendio.co.za/yak52/YAK%2052%20TECHNICAL%20-%20EXAMINATION.
PDF>
http://www.incendio.co.za/yak52/YAK%2052%20TECHNICAL%20-%20MODEL%20ANSWE
RS.PDF
Compliments of the YAKKES Foundation web site...
Frank
http://home.earthlink.net/~yak52driver
YAK-52
N911OM
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Frank Haertlein" <yak52driver(at)earthlink.net> |
Gary,
You can find the link to Desser Tyres (among many other YAK links)
here....
http://home.earthlink.net/~yak52driver
Frank
YAK-52
N911OM
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | D Zeman <curious_wings(at)yahoo.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Re: High Cotton |
From my experience, the UV protection is suspect. I
had the finishing tapes deteriorate and the inner most
right elevator rib stitching fail (the stitching
thread is weak as well). I stripped the paint,
removed the finishing tape and re-stitched after
determining the base Russian cotton was fine. I
rejuvenated the elevators and re-silvered. All is
well for the time being. I did fly for a year or so
without paint on the control surfaces with the Russian
silver exposed (hangared). I would have to say the
silver was a very thin application.
Be safe,
Z
__________________________________
http://messenger.yahoo.com/
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Frank Haertlein" <yak52driver(at)earthlink.net> |
| Subject: | YAK-52 Technical Exam |
Sorry, the link got truncated. Maybe this one is
better?....................
So you thought you knew everything about the 52? Test your knowledge
here........
http://www.incendio.co.za/yak52/YAK%2052%20TECHNICAL%20-%20EXAMINATION.P
DF
Stumped? Didn't know as much as you thought? Here's the answers..
http://www.incendio.co.za/yak52/YAK%2052%20TECHNICAL%20-%20MODEL%20ANSWE
RS.PDF
Compliments of the YAKKES Foundation web site...
Frank
http://home.earthlink.net/~yak52driver
YAK-52
N911OM
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Bitterlich GS11 Mark G <BitterlichMG(at)cherrypoint.usmc.mil> |
| Subject: | Yak Engine stopping in flight briefly |
Ron, I have had a few incidents with sticking exhaust valves and it clearly
has been a case of lead fouling. Considering the amazing amount of lead in
our NOT REALLY 100 octane LOW LEAD fuel, I guess it should be no surprise.
That said, I have heard rumblings of all sorts of answers to this such as
running the engine with higher RPM, or... hotter cyl. head temps., and/or
adding Marvel Mystery Oil, to running auto fuel.
I've experimented with every piece of advice, but have no clear "this
worked" and "this did not" synopsis. However, I will say that when I ran 93
octane auto fuel, the engine seemed to run cooler and smoother. No joke. I
ran various "blends" of 100LL to auto-fuel and never could figure out just
what was best, let alone legal.
All that said, I am opening Pandora's Box and asking everyone.... what is
your opinion?
Thanks for any and all answers or advice, or . ??
Mark
Yak-50 N50YK
p.s. It's also important to know that I have an early generation M-14P 360
HP model, and my cylinder heads actually have LESS cooling fins (number &
size) than later models.
-----Original Message-----
From: Ronald Wasson [mailto:ronwasson(at)mindspring.com]
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Yak Engine stopping in flight briefly
Ross
I had a friend with exactly the same problem. Turned out to be a
sticking valve. It would hang up for a few seconds. Sounded like the engine
had major problems but was just one valve. We suspected it because it
sounded like another ac whose exhaust valve was totally hung up and very
easy to find. He took the exhaust springs off one by one and felt how hard
the valve moved. One seemed stiffer and binding. Problem did not come back
after a new guide.
Ron
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Frank Haertlein" <yak52driver(at)earthlink.net> |
| Subject: | This one is right.......YAK-52 Technical Exam |
Yaksters
If the links in my previous posting were truncated and didn't work try
this..
http://home.earthlink.net/~yak52driver/test.html
Frank
YAK-52
N911OM
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Brian Lloyd <brianl(at)lloyd.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Yak Engine stopping in flight briefly |
Bitterlich GS11 Mark G wrote:
> Ron, I have had a few incidents with sticking exhaust valves and it clearly
> has been a case of lead fouling. Considering the amazing amount of lead in
> our NOT REALLY 100 octane LOW LEAD fuel, I guess it should be no surprise.
> That said, I have heard rumblings of all sorts of answers to this such as
> running the engine with higher RPM, or... hotter cl. head temps., and/or
> adding Marvel Mystery Oil, to running auto fuel.
I never ran into a problem with my Huosai engine but then I ran it on auto fuel
or on 80/87 at my home field. OTOH I have lived with a number of Lycoming engines
and they are prone to valve sticking.
Having run a number of Lycoming engines from newly overhauled to the point of incipient
valve sticking I have gotten a feeling for what works. And that is ...
nothing.
Nope, I have never found anything that seems to have an effect on when the valve/guide
clearance goes away.
OTOH, I have run into lead fouling problems with spark plugs. Some of the smaller
Lycomings are very prone to lead fouling. In that case I use Alcor TCP fuel
additive and it really makes a difference.
--
Brian Lloyd 6501 Red Hook Plaza
brianl(at)lloyd.com Suite 201
http://www.lloyd.com St. Thomas, VI 00802
+1.340.998.9447 (voice) +1.360.838.9669 (fax)
There is a time to laud one's country and a time to protest.
A good citizen is prepared to do either as the need arises.
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | cjpilot710(at)aol.com |
| Subject: | A neat web site. |
Troops,
I found a neat web site for those of you who are planning a new instrument
panels. It's free and easy.
They have Yak-52 blank panels already there and will be putting up CJ-6
instrument panels next week.
After you call up the panel of your choice, you scroll up a bunch of scaled,
instruments, radios, switches, EFIS, and other stuff, and drag it to a blank
panel. It will even take you to a link for the instruments or stuff you pick
out.
http://www.epanelbuilder.com/
And dream on!!!
Jim Goolsby
"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little safety,
deserve neither liberty nor safety"
Benjamin Franklin 1759
"With my shield, or on it"
Trojan Warriors BC
"The reason older men are like fine wine. When young, they are like grapes
until some woman stomps all over them."
Unknown older man.
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Oliver Neufert <oliver.neufert(at)wanadoo.fr> |
| Subject: | Re: Yak Engine stopping in flight briefly |
Ross,
I had a similar problem: consistent (very consistent!) engine stoppage for
about 2 seconds at exactly 2000 ft after take-off (4000ft if the airfield
is at 2000amsl, and 2000ft if the airfield is at 0amsl etc I think it is
important to mention since it shows that it had nothing to do with leaning
at altitude but rather time after applying full power), together with a
sudden drop of fuel pressure down to 0.
Found some blue paint or lacquer flakes in the fuel, clogging the first
fuel filter. The flakes were coming from the fuel gage sensor's floats
(they had been stripped by 100LL -literally like you wish they'd look if
you'd use paint stripper!-, I guess someone must have used the wrong paint
there), so I removed what was left of the paint and washed out the whole
system. This might be a good thing to check, all of you, next time you
remove the sensors.
But the problem was still there.
Always cutting out after 2000ft, just allowing to go in the glide and
suddenly coming back again. No indication other than the fuel pressure
suddenly dropping to 0 at the same moment it cuts out.
In the end I changed the fuel pump, and it never happened again.
I later found out that the fuel pump was assembled wrong (the regulator
part) which caused the pressure regulation not to work. It must be only by
accident that the pressure was correct the whole time before that. The
regulating mechanism can be mounted back to front, there is no key to
prevent you from doing so. I don't know if it has anything to do with the
engine cutting, since nobody has touched anything on the engine before the
cutting out happened and I had done about 50 hours without any problem
before that, but I think it's worth mentioning anyways.
Hope it helps.
As to the exhaust valve sticking explanation, I have no idea how just one
open valve out of the whole lot could cause the entire engine to stop
running for 1-2 seconds? maybe for a hick-up, but stopping altogether?
Oliver
Yak-18T HA-YAL
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com]On Behalf Of Ross Bausone
Subject: Yak-List: Yak Engine stopping in flight briefly
I am a partner in a Yak-52. It's been a great machine.
I was looking for info regarding the Yak engine "cutting out" for 1-2
seconds.
Has anyone ever noticed anything like this? Has it happened consistently
with your aircraft? I had this happen right after lift off, once, and
another had it happen at 3500 feet in cruise.
This has happened a few times, and we are beginning to suspect the
carburetor however, we haven't gotten a clear indication yet.
Thoughts?
Regards,
Ross
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Daniel Fortin" <fougapilot(at)hotmail.com> |
Yakers,
Anyone has a local phone number for Wiliams & Wiliams, the nametag people?
The 1-800 number does not work from Canada.
Thanks.
Inverted
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "A. Dennis Savarese" <adsavar(at)gte.net> |
863-683-5487
Dennis
----- Original Message -----
From: "Daniel Fortin" <fougapilot(at)hotmail.com>
Subject: Yak-List: Nametags
>
> Yakers,
>
> Anyone has a local phone number for Wiliams & Wiliams, the nametag people?
> The 1-800 number does not work from Canada.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Inverted
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Jerome Van der Schaar" <jvds30(at)hotmail.com> |
Do these nametag people have a website or e-mail?
Jerome van der Schaar
yakkes.com
>From: "A. Dennis Savarese" <adsavar(at)gte.net>
>Reply-To: yak-list(at)matronics.com
>To:
>Subject: Re: Yak-List: Nametags
>Date: Fri, 28 May 2004 08:17:14 -0500
>
>
>863-683-5487
>Dennis
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Daniel Fortin" <fougapilot(at)hotmail.com>
>To:
>Subject: Yak-List: Nametags
>
>
> >
> > Yakers,
> >
> > Anyone has a local phone number for Wiliams & Wiliams, the nametag
>people?
> > The 1-800 number does not work from Canada.
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> > Inverted
> >
> >
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "A. Dennis Savarese" <adsavar(at)gte.net> |
Yes, they do and you can design your own right on the site.
http://nametags4u.com/ Look at the top of their web page and click on
DESIGN A NAMETAG. It's pretty cool stuff.
Dennis
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jerome Van der Schaar" <jvds30(at)hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Nametags
>
>
> Do these nametag people have a website or e-mail?
>
> Jerome van der Schaar
> yakkes.com
>
> >From: "A. Dennis Savarese" <adsavar(at)gte.net>
> >Reply-To: yak-list(at)matronics.com
> >To:
> >Subject: Re: Yak-List: Nametags
> >Date: Fri, 28 May 2004 08:17:14 -0500
> >
> >
> >863-683-5487
> >Dennis
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Daniel Fortin" <fougapilot(at)hotmail.com>
> >To:
> >Subject: Yak-List: Nametags
> >
> >
> > >
> > > Yakers,
> > >
> > > Anyone has a local phone number for Wiliams & Wiliams, the nametag
> >people?
> > > The 1-800 number does not work from Canada.
> > >
> > > Thanks.
> > >
> > > Inverted
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Ernie Martinez" <ernest.martinez(at)oracle.com> |
http://www.nametags4u.com/
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jerome Van der
Schaar
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Nametags
Do these nametag people have a website or e-mail?
Jerome van der Schaar
yakkes.com
>From: "A. Dennis Savarese" <adsavar(at)gte.net>
>Reply-To: yak-list(at)matronics.com
>To:
>Subject: Re: Yak-List: Nametags
>Date: Fri, 28 May 2004 08:17:14 -0500
>
>
>863-683-5487
>Dennis
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Daniel Fortin" <fougapilot(at)hotmail.com>
>To:
>Subject: Yak-List: Nametags
>
>
> >
> > Yakers,
> >
> > Anyone has a local phone number for Wiliams & Wiliams, the nametag
>people?
> > The 1-800 number does not work from Canada.
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> > Inverted
> >
> >
>
>
==
==
==
==
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Daniel Fortin" <fougapilot(at)hotmail.com> |
Thanks,
New hats and nametags on their way.
Inverted
>From: "A. Dennis Savarese" <adsavar(at)gte.net>
>Reply-To: yak-list(at)matronics.com
>To:
>Subject: Re: Yak-List: Nametags
>Date: Fri, 28 May 2004 08:17:14 -0500
>
>
>863-683-5487
>Dennis
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Daniel Fortin" <fougapilot(at)hotmail.com>
>To:
>Subject: Yak-List: Nametags
>
>
> >
> > Yakers,
> >
> > Anyone has a local phone number for Wiliams & Wiliams, the nametag
>people?
> > The 1-800 number does not work from Canada.
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> > Inverted
> >
> >
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Daniel Fortin" <fougapilot(at)hotmail.com> |
http://www.nametags4u.com/
>From: "Jerome Van der Schaar" <jvds30(at)hotmail.com>
>Reply-To: yak-list(at)matronics.com
>To: yak-list(at)matronics.com
>Subject: Re: Yak-List: Nametags
>Date: Fri, 28 May 2004 14:14:25 +0000
>
>
>
>
>Do these nametag people have a website or e-mail?
>
>Jerome van der Schaar
>yakkes.com
>
> >From: "A. Dennis Savarese" <adsavar(at)gte.net>
> >Reply-To: yak-list(at)matronics.com
> >To:
> >Subject: Re: Yak-List: Nametags
> >Date: Fri, 28 May 2004 08:17:14 -0500
> >
> >
> >863-683-5487
> >Dennis
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Daniel Fortin" <fougapilot(at)hotmail.com>
> >To:
> >Subject: Yak-List: Nametags
> >
> >
>
> > >
> > > Yakers,
> > >
> > > Anyone has a local phone number for Wiliams & Wiliams, the nametag
> >people?
> > > The 1-800 number does not work from Canada.
> > >
> > > Thanks.
> > >
> > > Inverted
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Frank Haertlein" <yak52driver(at)earthlink.net> |
| Subject: | Garmin 295 Color Display GPS |
Yaksters;
Got a Garmin 295 for sale. Works great, not a dammed thing wrong with
it. It's about a year old. Anyone need one? Make me an offer
offline..... yak52driver(at)earthlink.net or call at 760-784-0818
Frank
N9110M
YAK-52
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | [ Andrew Zheng ] : New Email List Photo Share Available! |
| From: | Email List Photo Shares <pictures(at)matronics.com> |
A new Email List Photo Share is available:
Poster: Andrew Zheng
Subject: Another Chinese CJ School
http://www.matronics.com/photoshare/andrewzheng__china@hotmail.com.05.28.2004/index.html
o Main Photo Share Index
http://www.matronics.com/photoshare
o Submitting a Photo Share
If you wish to submit a Photo Share of your own, please include the
following information along with your email message and files:
1) Email List or Lists that they are related to:
2) Your Full Name:
3) Your Email Address:
4) One line Subject description:
5) Multi-line, multi-paragraph description of topic:
6) One-line Description of each photo or file:
Email the information above and your files and photos to:
pictures(at)matronics.com
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Jerome Van Der Schaar" <jvds30(at)hotmail.com> |
Good stuff,
to bad they don't have any Yak's for the tags.
Jerome
-------Original Message-------
From: yak-list(at)matronics.com
Date: Friday, May 28, 2004 17:08:10
Subject: RE: Yak-List: Nametags
com>
http://www.nametags4u.com/
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jerome Van der
Schaar
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Nametags
Do these nametag people have a website or e-mail?
Jerome van der Schaar
yakkes.com
>From: "A. Dennis Savarese" <adsavar(at)gte.net>
>Reply-To: yak-list(at)matronics.com
>To:
>Subject: Re: Yak-List: Nametags
>Date: Fri, 28 May 2004 08:17:14 -0500
>
>
>863-683-5487
>Dennis
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Daniel Fortin" <fougapilot(at)hotmail.com>
>To:
>Subject: Yak-List: Nametags
>
>
> >
> > Yakers,
> >
> > Anyone has a local phone number for Wiliams & Wiliams, the nametag
>people?
> > The 1-800 number does not work from Canada.
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> > Inverted
> >
> >
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Frank Haertlein" <yak52driver(at)earthlink.net> |
| Subject: | Rocking the Boat..... |
Yaksters.......
HMMMMM, I guess I'm rocking the boat......
http://www.rpatalk.com/AspNetForums/ShowForum.aspx?ForumID=17
Kind of reminds me of the first time I ever went water skiing. After
awhile, the driver of the boat tried everything to knock me off the
skis. He was turning really tight, going over his own wake, making quick
reversals......he tried everything but just couldn't knock me off those
skis (all the other kids were waiting for their turn). I eventually
tired and went head first into the water....OUCH!
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Frank Haertlein" <yak52driver(at)earthlink.net> |
| Subject: | A jewel found in my files |
Yakmeisters.......
OK, so I'm off of work today with not too much to do but clean out the
files on my computer when I found the following jewel. Made it up for
Jim Goolsby some time ago. So I uploaded it and thought I'd share it
with the list. Here's the link
http://home.earthlink.net/~yak52driver/goolsby/goolsby.html
Jim, if you don't like it let me know and I'll delete it! Otherwise it's
going on my links page.
Frank
YAK-52
N911OM
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | E R <jogggles(at)yahoo.com> |
| Subject: | Re: A neat web site. |
Jim,
Did that DVD I made for you of the Group's Sun n Fun flying turn out ok? I never
had the time to check it before I gave it to you (if so then I'll put the other
footage on a DVD and send it to you; if not, I'll re-burn the DVD and check
it this time!)
Elizabeth
cjpilot710(at)aol.com wrote:
Troops,
I found a neat web site for those of you who are planning a new instrument
panels. It's free and easy.
They have Yak-52 blank panels already there and will be putting up CJ-6
instrument panels next week.
After you call up the panel of your choice, you scroll up a bunch of scaled,
instruments, radios, switches, EFIS, and other stuff, and drag it to a blank
panel. It will even take you to a link for the instruments or stuff you pick
out.
http://www.epanelbuilder.com/
And dream on!!!
Jim Goolsby
"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little safety,
deserve neither liberty nor safety"
Benjamin Franklin 1759
"With my shield, or on it"
Trojan Warriors BC
"The reason older men are like fine wine. When young, they are like grapes
until some woman stomps all over them."
Unknown older man.
---------------------------------
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Ernie Martinez" <ernest.martinez(at)oracle.com> |
| Subject: | A neat web site. |
Hey Liz,
I'm still waiting for video of Eglin!!!!
Ernie
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of E R
Subject: Re: Yak-List: A neat web site.
Jim,
Did that DVD I made for you of the Group's Sun n Fun flying turn out ok?
I never had the time to check it before I gave it to you (if so then
I'll put the other footage on a DVD and send it to you; if not, I'll
re-burn the DVD and check it this time!)
Elizabeth
cjpilot710(at)aol.com wrote:
Troops,
I found a neat web site for those of you who are planning a new
instrument
panels. It's free and easy.
They have Yak-52 blank panels already there and will be putting up CJ-6
instrument panels next week.
After you call up the panel of your choice, you scroll up a bunch of
scaled,
instruments, radios, switches, EFIS, and other stuff, and drag it to a
blank
panel. It will even take you to a link for the instruments or stuff you
pick
out.
http://www.epanelbuilder.com/
And dream on!!!
Jim Goolsby
"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little safety,
deserve neither liberty nor safety"
Benjamin Franklin 1759
"With my shield, or on it"
Trojan Warriors BC
"The reason older men are like fine wine. When young, they are like
grapes
until some woman stomps all over them."
Unknown older man.
---------------------------------
==
==
==
==
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Brian Lloyd <brianl(at)lloyd.com> |
| Subject: | Re: A jewel found in my files |
Frank Haertlein wrote:
> http://home.earthlink.net/~yak52driver/goolsby/goolsby.html
>
> Jim, if you don't like it let me know and I'll delete it! Otherwise it's
> going on my links page.
Hey Jim, I have flown my 285hp CJ6A to 18,000' when doing time-to-climb tests.
I know it flies higher than 17,061'.
--
Brian Lloyd 6501 Red Hook Plaza
brianl(at)lloyd.com Suite 201
http://www.lloyd.com St. Thomas, VI 00802
+1.340.998.9447 (voice) +1.360.838.9669 (fax)
There is a time to laud one's country and a time to protest.
A good citizen is prepared to do either as the need arises.
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | David Marsh <swampy(at)videotron.ca> |
| Subject: | Re: Intermittent Tacho Generator |
Hello Folks.
I'm in need of some armchair engineering. The tacho on my Yak 52 is intermittent.
Sometimes it works flawlessly, other times it only starts working during my
runup, or stops while I'm flying. Both gauges do the same, so it's not a gauge
problem. I've checked the cannon plug and buzzed the wiring ; no apparent broken
wires or faulty grounding. So what do I try next ? Remove the tacho and clean
it ?
Cheers,
Dave.
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | E R <jogggles(at)yahoo.com> |
| Subject: | A neat web site. |
Hey Ern,
I shot over six hours of raw footage at Eglin, but there is still not enough to
complete a 30-minute video to my satisfaction. What's missing is airplanes (remember
why?) I am coordinating with someone you really, really like right now
to get what I need. Will keep you posted.
Elizabeth
Ernie Martinez wrote:
Hey Liz,
I'm still waiting for video of Eglin!!!!
Ernie
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of E R
Subject: Re: Yak-List: A neat web site.
Jim,
Did that DVD I made for you of the Group's Sun n Fun flying turn out ok?
I never had the time to check it before I gave it to you (if so then
I'll put the other footage on a DVD and send it to you; if not, I'll
re-burn the DVD and check it this time!)
Elizabeth
cjpilot710(at)aol.com wrote:
Troops,
I found a neat web site for those of you who are planning a new
instrument
panels. It's free and easy.
They have Yak-52 blank panels already there and will be putting up CJ-6
instrument panels next week.
After you call up the panel of your choice, you scroll up a bunch of
scaled,
instruments, radios, switches, EFIS, and other stuff, and drag it to a
blank
panel. It will even take you to a link for the instruments or stuff you
pick
out.
http://www.epanelbuilder.com/
And dream on!!!
Jim Goolsby
"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little safety,
deserve neither liberty nor safety"
Benjamin Franklin 1759
"With my shield, or on it"
Trojan Warriors BC
"The reason older men are like fine wine. When young, they are like
grapes
until some woman stomps all over them."
Unknown older man.
---------------------------------
==
==
==
==
---------------------------------
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Barry Hancock <radialpower(at)cox.net> |
| Subject: | It's not a copy! |
On May 28, 2004, at 11:58 PM, Yak-List Digest Server wrote:
> Yakmeisters.......
> OK, so I'm off of work today with not too much to do but clean out the
> files on my computer when I found the following jewel. Made it up for
> Jim Goolsby some time ago. So I uploaded it and thought I'd share it
> with the list. Here's the link
>
> http://home.earthlink.net/~yak52driver/goolsby/goolsby.html
Jim,
Did you ever send this article out to the magazines? It is a great
read!
Also, could you email me Bushi Cheng's email address off list? Thanks!
B
Barry Hancock
Event Director
All Red Star 2004
(949) 300-5510
www.allredstar.com
"Communism - Lousy Politics, Great Airplanes!"
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Barry Hancock <radialpower(at)cox.net> |
Brian wrote:
> Hey Jim, I have flown my 285hp CJ6A to 18,000' when doing
> time-to-climb tests.
> I know it flies higher than 17,061'.
When I get my cabin heat installed (when is a project ever finished?) I
want to do the time-to-climb test in my CJ. For those not familiar I
have the M14P with the MTV-9-260 (read "Big Mutha").
I will say this. Now that I have an american VSI in my airplane, the
claims of the M14P being able to sustain 2500+ fpm are, well, suspect.
I love my engine/prop set up, and it is a night and day difference
between it and the stock performance, but even at my lighter than most
empty weight the CJ does not all of the sudden become a Yak-55 in the
climb. Walter turbine, anyone? It would look odd, but Vne in the dead
vertical would be fun! And between my aux tanks and the 30+ gallon
bladders that Blackwell is installing, you could put nearly 100 gallons
of fuel in the thing! :)
Barry
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Barry Hancock <radialpower(at)cox.net> |
Just to clarify, this isn't the warmed over discussion about uneven
fuel feed leading to a fuel imbalance....
I have made many changes to my project, most to make it more
comfortable, convenient, or tricked out bitchin' dude (hey, I *am* from
CA, I have to at least act the part, right?).
One of the convenience changes I made was to add 3-axis electric trim.
I did this because, a) it sure would be nice in those long climbs, and
b) I could trim it up cross-controlled to get rid of the inherent fuel
embalances.
My "aux" tanks are the ones Doug Sapp sells (sold?). They are mounted
in the center section of the wing, so in essence they are secondary
header tanks or greatly expanded fuel lines as the system is gravity
feed. They give me about 34 more gallons and that sure is nice for
cross countries, multiple hop days, and loading up on cheap gas.
Because we re-plumed the entire airplane (and re-wired it too, but
that's for another story) we decided to put in separate vents for the
left and right fuel tanks, instead of going with the original single
vent system as originally designed. At best this would solve the fuel
imbalance problems, at worst it would make them worse and we'd have to
go back to the stock configuration.
Well, I'm not quite sure if it is my impeccable flying skills (well,
OK, I'm sure it's not *that*), the extra tanks, the trim system, or the
separate vents, but my fuel imbalance issue, while not gone, has
certainly been greatly reduced.
I know I'm throwing a piece of raw meat to the wolves, but I thought
some of you might be interested in the info.
DISCLAIMER: The author takes no responsibility for the accuracy of the
information given, nor is this an endorsement to berate, belittle,
defame, or otherwise slander or discredit him or the information
herein. Furthermore, any violation of this disclaimer will be
prosecuted in the court of good taste.
Barry
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Ladyrat01(at)aol.com |
GET ME OUTA HERE
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Ladyrat01(at)aol.com |
| Subject: | Re: Time to climb |
HOW FICK ARE YOU?
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Bruce Campbell" <baruch(at)intelligentflight.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Intermittent Tacho Generator |
Don remove the tach, check the tach generator.
(Old) tachometers work by generating a voltage porportional to the RPM. If
the Tach Generator has an intermittent any where (the candidates are a.
brushes, b. commutators, and c. windings). The good news is they are not
particularly hard to get to, and should be rebuildable.
Bruce Campbell
Yak52
----- Original Message -----
From: "David Marsh" <swampy(at)videotron.ca>
Subject: Yak-List: Re: Intermittent Tacho Generator
>
> Hello Folks.
>
> I'm in need of some armchair engineering. The tacho on my Yak 52 is
intermittent. Sometimes it works flawlessly, other times it only starts
working during my runup, or stops while I'm flying. Both gauges do the same,
so it's not a gauge problem. I've checked the cannon plug and buzzed the
wiring ; no apparent broken wires or faulty grounding. So what do I try next
? Remove the tacho and clean it ?
>
> Cheers,
>
> Dave.
>
>
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| From: | David Marsh <swampy(at)videotron.ca> |
| Subject: | Re: Intermittent Tacho Generator |
Agreed ; I meant the tacho generator.
Surely worn brushes would lead to a noisy (wavering) indication, not a
failure for several hours followed by a sudden recovery ?
>
> Don remove the tach, check the tach generator.
> (Old) tachometers work by generating a voltage porportional to the RPM. If
> the Tach Generator has an intermittent any where (the candidates are a.
> brushes, b. commutators, and c. windings). The good news is they are not
> particularly hard to get to, and should be rebuildable.
>
>
> Bruce Campbell
> Yak52
>
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| From: | Brian Lloyd <brianl(at)lloyd.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Intermittent Tacho Generator |
Bruce Campbell wrote:
>
> Don remove the tach, check the tach generator.
> (Old) tachometers work by generating a voltage proportional to the RPM. If
> the Tach Generator has an intermittent any where (the candidates are a.
> brushes, b. commutators, and c. windings). The good news is they are not
> particularly hard to get to, and should be rebuildable.
Actually, the tach generator does not work that way. The tach generator is a three-phase
AC generator with a permanent magnet armature and three stator windings
(like an alternator). The frequency is proportional to RPM. (The voltage
increases with RPM to some extent but that is not the important part.) The
three leads carry the three phases. There are no commutator, slip rings, or brushes.
Inside the tach indicator is a three phase AC electric motor that couples to a
standard mechanical tach mechanism. The motor turns at exactly the same RPM as
the generator since the three phases keep the two in exact lock step. It really
is an electrical replacement for the old tach cable. (Never underestimate
the power of the human mind to want to keep doing the same thing over and over
and over ...)
What is probably happening is that you have lost one of the phases so the motor
in the indicator(s) isn't starting reliably. When you turn the engine up to
a higher RPM the voltage in the remaining two phases is sufficient to finally
kick the motor in the tach indicator over and the thing starts working, albeit
on only two of the three phases. Since both indicators do the same thing and
the wiring rings out OK, it is probably the tach generator.
Before you replace the tach generator, carefully clean the cannon jack and plug
at the tach generator. The oils we use do a very good job of keeping the pins
in the tach generator connector from making good contact with the receptacles
in the plug. I tried everything to wash it clean and finally found that the
best solution for getting rid of the oil was avgas. I actually dunk the connector
in a small jar of avgas and let it soak for a bit then clean the receptacle
pins with a pipe cleaner. I use a small toothbrush with avgas to clean the
jack and pins on the tach generator. After doing that my problem went away.
If this does not solve your problem you probably need a new tach generator.
Your mileage may vary.
--
Brian Lloyd 6501 Red Hook Plaza
brianl(at)lloyd.com Suite 201
http://www.lloyd.com St. Thomas, VI 00802
+1.340.998.9447 (voice) +1.360.838.9669 (fax)
There is a time to laud one's country and a time to protest.
A good citizen is prepared to do either as the need arises.
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| From: | Wes Warner <ufo(at)outerlimits.org> |
| Subject: | Re: Intermittent Tacho Generator |
Mail-Followup-To: Wes Warner ,
Dave,
I can tell you that when the tach stops working or runs backwards on
my 55 it's because the wires keep breaking right where they go into the tach
generator. I just solder on new leads and keep going for another 50hrs.
Hopefully I'll get one of those horizon tachs soon.
Wes
>
> Hello Folks.
>
> I'm in need of some armchair engineering. The tacho on my Yak 52 is
> intermittent. Sometimes it works flawlessly, other times it only starts
> working during my runup, or stops while I'm flying. Both gauges do the
> same, so it's not a gauge problem. I've checked the cannon plug and buzzed
> the wiring ; no apparent broken wires or faulty grounding. So what do I
> try next ? Remove the tacho and clean it ?
>
> Cheers,
>
> Dave.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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| From: | David Marsh <swampy(at)videotron.ca> |
| Subject: | Re: Intermittent Tacho Generator |
Brian,
thanks for the advice. The cannon plug certainly has been the problem
before, and cleaning the pins / sockets has worked before, but this time
it's fighting back !!! Just one situation to chew on; if the tach indicator
has sufficient signal from 2 phases to get going and start flying, why would
it lose the will to live 30 mins after I've set 59 % ? Those 2 phases are
still there driving so why would that change ?
And why don't I have something better to do on a Saturday night ?
Wes,
yes, common problem with Yaks ; had that before but this time it's decided
to challenge me with something more subtle.
Thanks to you both,
Dave.
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Brian Lloyd <brianl(at)lloyd.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Intermittent Tacho Generator |
David Marsh wrote:
>
> Brian,
>
> thanks for the advice. The cannon plug certainly has been the problem
> before, and cleaning the pins / sockets has worked before, but this time
> it's fighting back !!! Just one situation to chew on; if the tach indicator
> has sufficient signal from 2 phases to get going and start flying, why would
> it lose the will to live 30 mins after I've set 59 % ? Those 2 phases are
> still there driving so why would that change ?
Its a technical thing ... its broke.
> And why don't I have something better to do on a Saturday night ?
Hey, why am I sitting here answering these questions? :-)
Actually today was a pretty good day. I took a couple of kids for Young Eagle
rides, I installed some software on my father's computer, I attended a reception
for a number of WW-II vets in DC, and I showed my father how to reprogram the
channels on his TV set. All in all I would say this was one heck of a successful
day.
> Wes,
>
> yes, common problem with Yaks ; had that before but this time it's decided
> to challenge me with something more subtle.
It is time to consider an electronic tach. Less weight, simpler, and more reliable.
--
Brian Lloyd 6501 Red Hook Plaza
brianl(at)lloyd.com Suite 201
http://www.lloyd.com St. Thomas, VI 00802
+1.340.998.9447 (voice) +1.360.838.9669 (fax)
There is a time to laud one's country and a time to protest.
A good citizen is prepared to do either as the need arises.
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Walt Murphy <waltmurphy(at)charter.net> |
OK, who has a good source for flying helmets at a reasonable price ???
Thanks,
Walt
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Jerome Van Der Schaar" <jvds30(at)hotmail.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Flying Helmets |
E-bay.com
Jerome
-------Original Message-------
From: yak-list(at)matronics.com
Date: Sunday, May 30, 2004 08:20:32
Subject: Yak-List: Flying Helmets
OK, who has a good source for flying helmets at a reasonable price ???
Thanks,
Walt
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| From: | "Daniel Fortin" <fougapilot(at)hotmail.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Intermittent Tacho Generator |
And why don't I have something better to do on a Saturday night ?
Cause, like the rest of us, your adicted to your airplane, plus what's the
alternative, catching an Expos game...?
Dan
CJ6A CGYAC
Montreal
>From: David Marsh <swampy(at)videotron.ca>
>Reply-To: yak-list(at)matronics.com
>To: yak-list(at)matronics.com
>Subject: Re: Yak-List: Re: Intermittent Tacho Generator
>Date: Sat, 29 May 2004 21:29:41 -0400
>
>
>Brian,
>
>thanks for the advice. The cannon plug certainly has been the problem
>before, and cleaning the pins / sockets has worked before, but this time
>it's fighting back !!! Just one situation to chew on; if the tach indicator
>has sufficient signal from 2 phases to get going and start flying, why
>would
>it lose the will to live 30 mins after I've set 59 % ? Those 2 phases are
>still there driving so why would that change ?
>
>And why don't I have something better to do on a Saturday night ?
>
>Wes,
>
>yes, common problem with Yaks ; had that before but this time it's decided
>to challenge me with something more subtle.
>
>Thanks to you both,
>
>Dave.
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Daniel Fortin" <fougapilot(at)hotmail.com> |
They actualy have reasonably priced Russian helmets on Ebay.
Inverted
>From: Walt Murphy <waltmurphy(at)charter.net>
>Reply-To: yak-list(at)matronics.com
>To: yak-list(at)matronics.com
>Subject: Yak-List: Flying Helmets Date: Sat, 29 May 2004 23:01:28 -0700
>
>
>OK, who has a good source for flying helmets at a reasonable price ???
>
>Thanks,
>Walt
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "A. Dennis Savarese" <adsavar(at)gte.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Flying Helmets |
Here's another pretty good place to buy flight helmets. Plus they will
modify to suit your personal requirements.
http://www.aviationhelmets.com/
With regards to the speakers and microphone, Sigtronics makes the absolute
best 300 ohm speakers. The db/audio level is much better than any other 300
ohm speakers out there. Also their M80H mic is designed for high noise
environments, like helicopters and our type airplanes.
Dennis
----- Original Message -----
From: "Daniel Fortin" <fougapilot(at)hotmail.com>
Subject: RE: Yak-List: Flying Helmets
>
> They actualy have reasonably priced Russian helmets on Ebay.
>
> Inverted
>
>
> >From: Walt Murphy <waltmurphy(at)charter.net>
> >Reply-To: yak-list(at)matronics.com
> >To: yak-list(at)matronics.com
> >Subject: Yak-List: Flying Helmets Date: Sat, 29 May 2004 23:01:28 -0700
> >
> >
> >OK, who has a good source for flying helmets at a reasonable price ???
> >
> >Thanks,
> >Walt
> >
> >
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | David Marsh <swampy(at)videotron.ca> |
| Subject: | Re: Intermittent Tacho Generator |
Au Contraire. Watch the Flames wuppin Tampa. Again.
Go Flames !
----- Original Message -----
From: "Daniel Fortin" <fougapilot(at)hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Yak-List: Re: Intermittent Tacho Generator
>
>
> And why don't I have something better to do on a Saturday night ?
>
> Cause, like the rest of us, your adicted to your airplane, plus what's the
> alternative, catching an Expos game...?
>
> Dan
> CJ6A CGYAC
> Montreal
>
> >From: David Marsh <swampy(at)videotron.ca>
> >Reply-To: yak-list(at)matronics.com
> >To: yak-list(at)matronics.com
> >Subject: Re: Yak-List: Re: Intermittent Tacho Generator
> >Date: Sat, 29 May 2004 21:29:41 -0400
> >
> >
> >Brian,
> >
> >thanks for the advice. The cannon plug certainly has been the problem
> >before, and cleaning the pins / sockets has worked before, but this time
> >it's fighting back !!! Just one situation to chew on; if the tach
indicator
> >has sufficient signal from 2 phases to get going and start flying, why
> >would
> >it lose the will to live 30 mins after I've set 59 % ? Those 2 phases are
> >still there driving so why would that change ?
> >
> >And why don't I have something better to do on a Saturday night ?
> >
> >Wes,
> >
> >yes, common problem with Yaks ; had that before but this time it's
decided
> >to challenge me with something more subtle.
> >
> >Thanks to you both,
> >
> >Dave.
> >
> >
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Daniel Fortin" <fougapilot(at)hotmail.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Intermittent Tacho Generator |
True that, true that. The cup will be back where it belongs... in Canada.
>From: David Marsh <swampy(at)videotron.ca>
>Reply-To: yak-list(at)matronics.com
>To: yak-list(at)matronics.com
>Subject: Re: Yak-List: Re: Intermittent Tacho Generator
>Date: Sun, 30 May 2004 11:07:39 -0400
>
>
>Au Contraire. Watch the Flames wuppin Tampa. Again.
>
>Go Flames !
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Daniel Fortin" <fougapilot(at)hotmail.com>
>To:
>Subject: Re: Yak-List: Re: Intermittent Tacho Generator
>
>
> >
> >
> > And why don't I have something better to do on a Saturday night ?
> >
> > Cause, like the rest of us, your adicted to your airplane, plus what's
>the
> > alternative, catching an Expos game...?
> >
> > Dan
> > CJ6A CGYAC
> > Montreal
> >
> > >From: David Marsh <swampy(at)videotron.ca>
> > >Reply-To: yak-list(at)matronics.com
> > >To: yak-list(at)matronics.com
> > >Subject: Re: Yak-List: Re: Intermittent Tacho Generator
> > >Date: Sat, 29 May 2004 21:29:41 -0400
> > >
> > >
> > >Brian,
> > >
> > >thanks for the advice. The cannon plug certainly has been the problem
> > >before, and cleaning the pins / sockets has worked before, but this
>time
> > >it's fighting back !!! Just one situation to chew on; if the tach
>indicator
> > >has sufficient signal from 2 phases to get going and start flying, why
> > >would
> > >it lose the will to live 30 mins after I've set 59 % ? Those 2 phases
>are
> > >still there driving so why would that change ?
> > >
> > >And why don't I have something better to do on a Saturday night ?
> > >
> > >Wes,
> > >
> > >yes, common problem with Yaks ; had that before but this time it's
>decided
> > >to challenge me with something more subtle.
> > >
> > >Thanks to you both,
> > >
> > >Dave.
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Barry Hancock <radialpower(at)cox.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Flying helmets |
FWIW,
We all want a good deal on stuff, but take a long hard look at bargain
hunting on safety equipment. Sure you can get quality stuff for less
if you do your homework, which is what you're to be doing. However,
consider that a helmet better work properly when you need it...that is,
when your head hits the horizontal after you've egressed the airplane
in an emergency. If you stop and think about it, that is the real
reason we wear these things. Even the HGU-55 helmets (yes, I wear one
too, but I'm switching to Gallet for this very reason) are not designed
to withstand a major impact. In other words they are not designed to
helicopter safety standards. The problem in the past has been that
"helicopter safety standards" meant bulky and heavy...Gallet has
changed that. The -55 is designed for jet pilots punching out, not
warbird pilots jumping out.
I guess it all depends on how you approach it. I have a friend that
thought he was a great pilot and the plane he was flying was bullet
proof...it was, after all, Russian. He cut a few corners on
maintenance and tried to "cheap" it on safety equipment. The corners
he cut put him in an in fight emergency, and "cheaping" it on safety
equipment meant he was along for the ride. It was a long ride and I'm
sure he had plenty of time to reflect on what poor decisions he had
made, because they were now about to kill him.
When our time is up, our time is up. I just don't want to foul out of
the game before the final buzzer sounds...I have too many people
depending on me.
Happy Flying,
Barry
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "A. Dennis Savarese" <adsavar(at)gte.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Flying helmets |
Where can we find Gallet helmets Barry?
Thanks
Dennis
----- Original Message -----
From: "Barry Hancock" <radialpower(at)cox.net>
Subject: Yak-List: Re: Flying helmets
>
> FWIW,
>
> We all want a good deal on stuff, but take a long hard look at bargain
> hunting on safety equipment. Sure you can get quality stuff for less
> if you do your homework, which is what you're to be doing. However,
> consider that a helmet better work properly when you need it...that is,
> when your head hits the horizontal after you've egressed the airplane
> in an emergency. If you stop and think about it, that is the real
> reason we wear these things. Even the HGU-55 helmets (yes, I wear one
> too, but I'm switching to Gallet for this very reason) are not designed
> to withstand a major impact. In other words they are not designed to
> helicopter safety standards. The problem in the past has been that
> "helicopter safety standards" meant bulky and heavy...Gallet has
> changed that. The -55 is designed for jet pilots punching out, not
> warbird pilots jumping out.
>
> I guess it all depends on how you approach it. I have a friend that
> thought he was a great pilot and the plane he was flying was bullet
> proof...it was, after all, Russian. He cut a few corners on
> maintenance and tried to "cheap" it on safety equipment. The corners
> he cut put him in an in fight emergency, and "cheaping" it on safety
> equipment meant he was along for the ride. It was a long ride and I'm
> sure he had plenty of time to reflect on what poor decisions he had
> made, because they were now about to kill him.
>
> When our time is up, our time is up. I just don't want to foul out of
> the game before the final buzzer sounds...I have too many people
> depending on me.
>
> Happy Flying,
>
> Barry
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Ron Davis" <l39parts(at)hotmail.com> |