Zenith640-Archive.digest.vol-ab
December 30, 2010 - December 06, 2017
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| From: | "pilot4pay" <pilot4profit(at)sbcglobal.net> |
Hey Mark, sorry it has taken so long to get back to the list. I'm just unpacking
my flaps and ailerons. I'll compare what I got with your picture and get back
to you tomorrow.
Hope your Christmas was Merry and you New Year will be Happy!
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Craig Smith
CH640 builder
SN: 0078
"Just think how stupid the average person is,
and then realize that half of them are even stupider!"
--George Carlin
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| From: | "pilot4pay" <pilot4profit(at)sbcglobal.net> |
So I unpacked and laid out the ribs I received. The arrangement is based on the
90 degree marking that Zenair placed on one corner of each rib for reference.
It looks as though Zenair doesn't much care which way the internal ribs point,
just the ones on the ends.
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Craig Smith
CH640 builder
SN: 0078
"Just think how stupid the average person is,
and then realize that half of them are even stupider!"
--George Carlin
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| From: | "super58d" <smarkburrows(at)gmail.com> |
Thanks Craig,
By looking at the drawings, it would seem that structurally it shouldn't matter
which way they face. But the drawings DO specify which way they should go.
I did call Zenair, but about something else. That was 3 weeks ago and still no
reply. It is the holidays however and they ran and grabbed a -640 specialist
to answer my questions. I didn't ask about the flaps because I hadn't realized
the problem at that point. I am ready to install the ribs into the right flap.
Everything is pretty straightforward. I'm just being cautious about the hinges.
I'm not happy with the way they ended up on the stabilator trim tabs. I want
these to be better, but don't yet have a good method for doing it.
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Mark
s/n 094
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| From: | "pilot4pay" <pilot4profit(at)sbcglobal.net> |
I think I had a similar problem with my trim tabs. I put in the specified shim,
(actually mine was just a tad thicker) between hinge and tab skin. But the travel
on the tab side seemed a bit cramped, due to the spring back of the tab skin.
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Craig Smith
CH640 builder
SN: 0078
"Just think how stupid the average person is,
and then realize that half of them are even stupider!"
--George Carlin
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| From: | "pilot4pay" <pilot4profit(at)sbcglobal.net> |
So I finally spotted the definitive answer for the flap rib orientation question.
DWG 640-A-5 R3 Flap rib table. Ribs 1 and 7 show 1R, 1L in the # reqd column.
Ribs 2 thru 6 only show a number, no RL reference. I doesn't matter where they
point.
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Craig Smith
CH640 builder
SN: 0078
"Just think how stupid the average person is,
and then realize that half of them are even stupider!"
--George Carlin
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| From: | "super58d" <smarkburrows(at)gmail.com> |
Cool, thanks for that Craig. I had to put the flaps away for a bit and move onto
the ailerons because Zenair sent me the wrong size piano hinge!! They sent me
two sets for the ailerons, none for the flaps. I called and they are supposed
to be sending me the correct set at no cost. We'll see. Oh, I got the CD also.
give me a few days to go through it and I'll let you know what I find out.
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Mark
s/n 094
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| From: | "pilot4pay" <pilot4profit(at)sbcglobal.net> |
Damage to disc.
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Craig Smith
CH640 builder
SN: 0078
"Just think how stupid the average person is,
and then realize that half of them are even stupider!"
--George Carlin
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| From: | "super58d" <smarkburrows(at)gmail.com> |
I sent you a private message Craig..
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Mark
s/n 094
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| From: | "super58d" <smarkburrows(at)gmail.com> |
Does anyone have pictures, or any factory information, on how the fuel tanks are
supposed to fit into the wings? Are they mounted in somehow, or do they just
sit in there and rest on the skins? I saw some of the pics on the factory disk,
but they aren't very helpful (unless I'm missing the ones I'm looking for).
Also, does anyone know of some 640 builder's websites out there? Christian Tremblay
had a great one with lots of good pics, but he got rid of it.
Thanks
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Mark
s/n 094
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| From: | "Scott Stewart" <scott_stewart(at)agilent.com> |
Hi Mark,
The fuel tank needs to be laid into the wing cavity, with enough cork to ensure
a snug and consistent fit at all points. The weight load needs to be evenly
supported by all of the rivets holding the leading edge skin to the spar. Unfortunately,
this part of the wing documentation is a bit light.
Christian's site was the best one out there. Jeff Paden's site is also down.
Perhaps you could start one?
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Scott Stewart
s/n: 0092
Building from plans
Rudder and Stabilator complete. Wings at 85%. Fuselage at 70%.
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| From: | Doug Geese <doug_geese(at)fwmetals.com> |
Mark,
I have a single picture of mine. They just sit in there on cork.
Doug
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Subject: Zenith640-List: Fuel Tanks
Does anyone have pictures, or any factory information, on how the fuel tank
s are supposed to fit into the wings? Are they mounted in somehow, or do th
ey just sit in there and rest on the skins? I saw some of the pics on the f
actory disk, but they aren't very helpful (unless I'm missing the ones I'm
looking for). Also, does anyone know of some 640 builder's websites out the
re? Christian Tremblay had a great one with lots of good pics, but he got r
id of it.
Thanks
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Mark
s/n 094
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| From: | "pilot4pay" <pilot4profit(at)sbcglobal.net> |
Chris has an earlier post on the ext. range tank on page 2, but it doesn't show
the tank installed in the wing.
I think the 601/650 has a"similar" installation. You might have a look at some
of their info.
I'm going to build my own tanks, as I'm going with a 4 tank installation, and the
cost of 4 factory tanks will pay for a good TIG welder. Once I make the forming
dies, I can make any number of tanks, if any one is interested.
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Craig Smith
CH640 builder
SN: 0078
"Just think how stupid the average person is,
and then realize that half of them are even stupider!"
--George Carlin
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| From: | "super58d" <smarkburrows(at)gmail.com> |
Thanks for the pics and info guys. That does help. I'm not sure why they call this
a 51% kit. I seem to be doing a lot of planning and engineering on my own!
Anyway, I updated my signature block to include my Kitlog page. That's all i
have as far as a website and pictures right now. Maybe I can start my own website
or a CH-640 webring in the future, I just have too many other things going
on right now. Thanks again for the prompt replies.
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Mark
s/n 094
My Build Site:
http://www.mykitlog.com/stephen363/
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| From: | "steveadams" <dr_steve_adams(at)yahoo.com> |
One thing to remember is that the tank is isolated from the airframe electrically.
The plans show a tab welded on the tank to connect a grounding strap to the
spar. My tank did not come with the tab so I had to have one welded on. I guess
the filler cap likely grounds the tank to the skins, but I would make sure
you do something to ensure a good ground if your tanks did not come with the
tab.
Steve
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| From: | "super58d" <smarkburrows(at)gmail.com> |
Thanks Steve, I did stumble across a factory pic of that grounding attachment while
browsing the disk luckily. It made me start thinking of all the little things
that aren't mentioned in the IPLs... I found back in the miscellaneous section
that all the grounding straps are for an IFR equipped aircraft. Day VFR
shouldn't need them all. Mine will be for IFR, so I will need them. Static wicks
too.
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Mark
s/n 094
My Build Site:
http://www.mykitlog.com/stephen363/
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| From: | "pilot4pay" <pilot4profit(at)sbcglobal.net> |
Mark, I think you and I are probably about the same state of build (you're probably
a bit ahead with wings). I can make you a set of grounding straps. I have
a roll of braided plated ribbon. I'll be flying IFR as well.
What state of kit have you purchased?
As soon as things warm up a bit, I'll be steady in the shop. I have a sheet metal
roller, English wheel, TIG, MIG, torch, Smithy lathe/mill.
Let's try to pool some resources. Once you set up to make some things, the tough
part is over.
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Craig Smith
CH640 builder
SN: 0078
"Just think how stupid the average person is,
and then realize that half of them are even stupider!"
--George Carlin
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| From: | "super58d" <smarkburrows(at)gmail.com> |
Hey Craig,
I'm on the right wing, and probably going a bit out of order. I started the wings
with the top up, not realizing that bottom up may be the better method. Anyway,
I also jumped ahead a bit and drilled and clecoed all the rear riblets.
I had to replace the spar extension, and just got that complete. This weekend
I'll be putting the rear top skins on, then flipping it over and starting the
other stuff. The grounding straps would be great! Also, I need the front channel
and doubler piece made again for one side. If you have the tools (and time)
tom make those two pieces I'd be happy to pay you as I'm sure it'll be cheaper
than paying Zenair. I can buy the aluminum and have it shipped to your house
as well. So far I have the tail kit, wing kit, extended range tanks, fuel system
kit, landing light kit and I got all the position lights through other sources.
I'll be looking at getting the fuselage and other kits here about mid-summer
I imagine. I added my kitlog web address to my signature block so give
me a couple days to post everything I've done and you can see what I've accomplished
so far. It'd be great if we can help each other out. I'm an avionics guy
and get a lot of stuff off e-bay or through other contacts. I have a butt-ton
of circuit breakers!!
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Mark
s/n 094
My Build Site:
http://www.mykitlog.com/stephen363/
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| From: | "pilot4pay" <pilot4profit(at)sbcglobal.net> |
You are one busy beaver! But I'll bet you have heat in your shop too.
I need to get hot this year. I'll look over your wish list and get back with you.
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Craig Smith
CH640 builder
SN: 0078
"Just think how stupid the average person is,
and then realize that half of them are even stupider!"
--George Carlin
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| From: | "pilot4pay" <pilot4profit(at)sbcglobal.net> |
Heh, the only 2 metal forming tools I don't have are a a shear and a brake. You
may want to get them from Zenair. I'll make up a set of strap for ya though,
no problem. How soon do you need them?
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Craig Smith
CH640 builder
SN: 0078
"Just think how stupid the average person is,
and then realize that half of them are even stupider!"
--George Carlin
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| From: | "super58d" <smarkburrows(at)gmail.com> |
oh, I'm not in a huge hurry. I think I'll be ready to seal up that side of the
wing in about 6 weeks. I ran into a slight snafu with the rear ribs. (Check out
my aileron bellcrank post I'll submitting here shortly if you are curious).
Anyway, I appreciate the offer for the straps. They'll come in handy. Now we have
to find an inexpensive place to buy static discharge wicks. They are EXPENSIVE
new!!
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Mark
s/n 094
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| From: | "super58d" <smarkburrows(at)gmail.com> |
Ok, so I have another question on the wing tank. The plans say that from rib #5
to rib #1 there is approximately a 12 degree increase when the wing is flat on
the table. When I use a level and angle measure, however, a 12 degree angle
puts the fuel line hole way at the top of rib #1. Basically, I was wondering if
anyone had a good way to judge where the holes should be drilled in the fwd
ribs for the fuel hose placement.
Also, I want to install a fuel injected engine. I'm told there needs to be a return
back to the tank for fuel injection and am just looking for some idea of
where to attach the return line and how to run it. Thanks in advance for the
help again guys.
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Mark
s/n 094
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| From: | "Scott Stewart" <scott_stewart(at)agilent.com> |
Hi Mark,
I discarded the 12 degree call-out and recalculated the numbers. The fuel line
needs to run slightly "uphill" from the tank outlet to the fuel selector, and
this run should be as straight as practical to minimize pressure loss (minimize
the force required by the fuel pump). Factoring the wing dihedral angle and
the total distance the line needs to run, I calculated a 10 degree slope through
the front ribs. Depending on how you want to route the fuel line, this value
may change for you, so I recommend doing your own calculations.
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Scott Stewart
s/n: 0092
Building from plans
Rudder and Stabilator complete. Wings at 85%. Fuselage at 70%.
Construction on hold while I help a friend build his RV-9A.
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| From: | "Joe" <backstagelive(at)gmail.com> |
| Subject: | Year of the Zenith |
Hi Everyone,
Here is what we have so far for the "Year of the Zenith" for Oshkosh 2011.
Let's get a conversation going and find out where you would like to go from
here.
AIRCRAFT PARKING
Tom Poberezny is putting together a parking place for 50 Zenith airplanes at
Oshkosh 2011. I have asked specifically for the spot on the north side of
the homebuilt parking area. That way we are a short distance from the Zenith
sales area. Now, it's time to see how many of you would like to park your
planes together at EAA. The first time I posted this, I had about 15 E-mail
commitments! Here is what I would like you to do.
If you plan to bring your Zenith to Oshkosh, please send this information to
me by E-mail at backstagelive(at)gmail.com. I will keep your E-mail address and
send you updates as time goes by.
Name / Address / Phone / Do you have a cell phone for Oshkosh - give us that
number.
E-mail address
N-number
Number of people in your group
Would you consider flying your plane in the Homebuilt Showcase this year?
If you are not planning to bring your plane to Oshkosh, but you still would
like to participate in Zenith activities and want to keep updates, send me
an E-mail to backstagelive(at)gmail.com.
AEROSHELL PRESENTATION
Tom has mentioned that he would like to do a presentation in Aero Shell
Square with Chris, and have one of each of his designs available for a photo
session. So far we have 2 outstanding airplanes that have committed. Ken
Couillard from Oshkosh would let us use his CH 300 Tri Z, and Al Beyer would
like to use his 601 HDS. If you would like to have your airplane in the
picture, please contact Sebastian at Zenith. We will need every model Zenith
except for the ones listed above.
LODGING
If you are looking for lodging for this years convention, and you are a
Zenith builder or enthusiast,
the University of Oshkosh Gruenhagen Hall will reserve one entire floor (40
rooms). There is already a waiting list for these rooms. There is a time
limit on this offer. THIS OFFER EXPIRES MONDAY, MARCH 7TH! The cost is $55
per night. Max 2 to a room. After March 7th, the rooms go back to the pool
of people on the reservation list. If we can get these reservations in soon,
we can have the entire floor to ourselves! Transportation is available to
and from the University to the EAA on a very regular basis.
If you would like to stay at Gruenhagen Hall, please call me at
920-237-1450. I have an application form I can E-mail you. When calling,
please leave me your name, phone number, and how many will be in the room.
AIRCRAFT REVIEW DURING SHOW
Tom mentioned that it would be fun to have a Zenith Aircraft Review before
one of the air shows. This would be a lot of fun, very good for Zenith
sales, and very easy to set up. Please let me know if you would like to fly
your plane in the review.
OTHER STUFF!
If we have a full 50 airplane commitment, which I am almost certain we will,
should we look into memorabilia like hats and T shirts that have "Year of
the Zenith" or something like that printed on them? Should the factory
sponsor an award for best homebuilt Zenith on the field? If you do, Zenith
can give the award in the Theatre in the Woods during the last day of the
convention along with the regular EAA awards. It would be fun to have the
Chris Heintz workmanship award given every year at EAA on a Zenith product!
What are your thoughts?
Should the people that fly their Zenith airplanes to Oshkosh get a plaque or
cup? This would be a great thing to give out and we could find an aviation
parts vender that would support this financially. Do you know of any
Aircraft type business that would fund such a project?
Thanks everyone! Your input and comments will be greatly appreciated. This
will be a great year at EAA for Zenith builders. Please let me know if you
are coming as soon as possible.
Joe Scheibinger
2809 Scenic Drive
Oshkosh, WI 54904
920-237-1450
backstagelive(at)gmail.com
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| From: | "pilot4pay" <pilot4profit(at)sbcglobal.net> |
What I know about fuel injected systems.
I'm going with an auto conversion and fuel injection also. My understanding is
that each tank must have provision for a return line, and that the fuel selector
valve should be a ganged unit, so that supply and return are paired to the
tank in use. Bad things happen when this is not followed. I looked into my old
T182T POH and examined the fuel system cartoon, and indeed there are fuel return
lines in the drawing. The details will end up being specific to your engine
choice but I believe that locating the return port as high on the tank as practical
is the correct way to do this. The reason for a high port is you won't
ever be pushing against the weight of the fuel in the tank as part of the pumping
"head". I have some cartoons from my rotary engine group with various configurations
of systems. Another method would be to have a header tank located
near the engine, that would require one pump for filling the header, and another
to pump from the header tank to engine, with fuel return line to header tank
only.
There are also marine type ganged fuel selector valves that are hundreds of dollars
cheaper than the aviation valves, but their brass bodies are heavier. I will
take the small weight penalty, to save hundreds of dollars.
The only problem I have yet to fully solve are my need to have exact fuel consumption
data, and the return line system makes this somewhat more complicated.
There are certified flow meters that have a subtractive side, but they are an
arm and a leg. So that point is still unsettled. There are several ways to skin
that cat, still thinking.
If you want more info on fuel systems I can forward you a whole bunch of e-mails
worth of discussion, don't forget to search the other Zenith lists too.
Hope this helps.
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Craig Smith
CH640 builder
SN: 0078
"Just think how stupid the average person is,
and then realize that half of them are even stupider!"
--George Carlin
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| From: | "pilot4pay" <pilot4profit(at)sbcglobal.net> |
Hey Mark! I just wanted to touch base with you on those straps. I wanted to be
sure that the material I have is what is being referred to in the drawing 640-M-73.
It's hard to tell by the drawing as it is a simple line drawing, but the
Newark catalog comes up with an Alpha wire braided sleeving. The part number
has changed, but I'm sure what I have is suitable and equivalent. Now, there are
two ways to skin this cat. One is easy, and it involves using a standard wire
ring terminal (sized for the proper cross sectional area) crimped onto the
braid. The second and more difficult would be to fabricate a flat terminal. If
you will need the height of the terminal to ensure it will fit, let me know and
I will get it for you before we make them up. Newark wants $16/ft for the braid.
I'm not asking for a nickel.
I can also fabricate the grounding cables from dwg 640-E-17 -2 thru -6.
The-1 cable runs from the rear mounted battery to the engine, and I don't believe
I have enough material for that.
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Craig Smith
CH640 builder
SN: 0078
"Just think how stupid the average person is,
and then realize that half of them are even stupider!"
--George Carlin
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| From: | "Joe" <backstagelive(at)gmail.com> |
| Subject: | ZENITHS TO OSHKOSH |
I just came back from a meeting at EAA with Tom Poberezny, and Adam Smith,
Museum Director. What an incredible meeting! I hope you are all sitting
down!
We changed the name of the event from "Year of the Zenith" to "Zeniths to
Oshkosh."
Thursday is Burt Rutan Day, Wednesday is Navy Aviation day, Tuesday is Bob
Hoover Day, and Monday will be designated as "Chris Heintz" day! Monday will
be one of the biggest days because of the Ford Motor Company bringing in REO
Speedwagon!
EAA will be giving us parking for 50 airplanes (5 rows of 10). Tom says if
we go over 50, not to worry, EAA will try to get us a little more space. We
are looking at 2 spots on the field, and as soon as I have more information
from EAA, I will post a map of the field with our location.
On Monday, July 25th late in the morning, somewhere around 11:00 AM, EAA
would like one of each of Chris's designs to come to the Aeroshell Square
for a group photo and a presentation to Chris from Tom Poberezny. After the
celebration, Tom would like to have planes fly the circuit on runway 18/36
for a flight display with someone from Zenith as a spokesperson at the
announcers stand! Then after the Zenith parade, the aircraft can go back to
their original parking area.
There have been many members volunteering to be in the homebuilders
showcase. Zenith will interview each volunteer and set pilot requirement. We
may have to use some sort of lottery system!
EAA wants to do a feature article on Chris for the EAA Newspaper and for
Sport Aviation. EAA would like Chris to give a speech at the Homebuilders
Hangar sometime during the week.
EAA will be working on some kind of a jacket patch to honor Zenith pilots
that flew their airplanes in. They are doing that for the Rutan planes too.
EAA discourages private companies giving awards for best of anything.
However, they encourage participation awards. Maybe we can work up some kind
of plaque with the pictures of your plane on it. They did that for me when I
had my Ercoupe. This is something we can think of a few months down the
road.
We will be putting up a central page on the Zenith website we can all go and
get more information on the Oshkosh event.
There are two very large indoor places that will hold 300+ people for
meetings, dinner parties, etc, right on the grounds of EAA. The nice part is
Robbins Restaurant is licensed to cater on the grounds of EAA. So if it
looks like we might outgrow our builder's dinner, we might be able to have
it at EAA and keep the same restaurant! More on this in a couple of weeks.
VERY IMPORTANT
WE HAVE 10 ROOMS LEFT AT GRUENHAGEN HALL! Gruenhagen Hall is the college
dorm at UWO. These rooms are nice, they have 2 beds, and they are only $55
per day! The nice part is the transportation. Busses run all day long and
will pick you up at the university and drop you off right at Oshkosh tower!
I reserved 30 rooms a while back for Zenith builders and enthusiasts. There
are 30 rooms to a floor so we can all be together. Here is the bad news.
They want all reservations turned in by Friday! They have over 100 EAA
members on a waiting list!
Here is what I need form you. If you would like a room at Gruenhagen, you
can call me at 920-237-1450, or E-mail me your name, phone, address, and
credit card number.
If you want to park your plane in the Zenith Showcase, send me your name,
address, N number, phone number. We have 15 airplanes confirmed so far.
If you are a Zenith builder or enthusiast not bringing your airplane to
Oshkosh, but would like to keep up with activities, send me your E-mail
address to backstagelive(at)gmail.com.
5 months to go!
Joe Scheibinger
2809 Scenic Drive
Oshkosh, WI 54904
920-237-1450
backstagelive(at)gmail.com
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| From: | omotosho olalekan <tosh_lincoln(at)yahoo.com> |
| Subject: | A Newbie from Malaysia |
Hello,
My name is Steve from Malaysia am happy to be part and member of the forum as am
looking into building Zodiac 640 from plans and would to know who is here also
shearing same thought with me. Am totally a novice into building plane but
would like you experts here to please help me along my project. Please is there
anybody building from plans here?
Regards,
Steve
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| Subject: | Re: A Newbie from Malaysia |
| From: | "super58d" <smarkburrows(at)gmail.com> |
Hey Steve Welcome!
Building from plans is ambitious! Good luck. I am building from a kit, and am about
80% done with the right wing. I ask for help on the forum all the time and
everyone is eager to offer advise and it's good advice too. Look back through
the topics and I'll bet some of your questions you might be thinking of have
already been asked. The CH-640 plans can be a bit vague and confusing at times.
Don't hesitate to ask questions before building something if you are confused.
I have had to go back and re-do several things because I didn't fully understand
what the plans were telling me to do until AFTER I had already done it.
See you around the forum, good luck!
Mark
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Mark
s/n 094
My Build Site:
http://www.mykitlog.com/stephen363/
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| Subject: | Re: A Newbie from Malaysia |
| From: | "pilot4pay" <pilot4profit(at)sbcglobal.net> |
Welcome Steve!
There was a fellow, Christian Trembly I believe, who was building from plans, but
he has since abandoned his project in favor of a certified aircraft.
I am building from a kit, and between Mark and myself, I think we are about the
only two active 640 builders on here. There are a few others who have already
completed their aircraft, who will pop in from time to time and help with questions
though.
There are some claims of errors in the drawings, as respect to some parts, so study
the plans carefully. They can be a bit vague at times.
We rarely get input here from Zenair. I think they have lost interest in the 640.
Their big market effort now is in LSA and the models made in Missouri.
Best of luck to you, we'll help when we can. I Still think the 640 is the most
economical and easy to build for it's load class, although maybe not the fastest.
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Craig Smith
CH640 builder
SN: 0078
"Just think how stupid the average person is,
and then realize that half of them are even stupider!"
--George Carlin
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| Subject: | cabin space compaired to early Cherokee 140s |
| From: | "mcjon77" <mcjon77(at)yahoo.com> |
Hi guys,
Having never seen a CH640 in person, I am trying to get an idea of how big the
cabin is. The other 2+2 I am familiar with are the Piper Cherokee 140s. How
would you compare the room in both the front and rear seats of the CH640 with
the Cherokee 140?
Thanks guys,
Jon
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Jon McDonald
Building Sonex #1287
Next up CH 701 :D
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| From: | Christian Tremblay <cj.tremblay(at)videotron.ca> |
| Subject: | Re: A Newbie from Malaysia |
Hello Steve and gang,
Welcome Steve, to the group, if building from plan it's more chanlenging, it
give you full control, and at any phases, you can buy any completed
components from zenith.
Rudder, Tail wing, Left wing completed at 100%. Right wing at 50% (wing
spar, aileron and flap completed 100%)
With extended tank buyed from Zenith. The projet is still on hold, because I
buyed last year an Beechcraft B24R.
I'am searching for a partner to complete the projet or for buy it as is.
Question of curiosity, do you have facilities stores to buy pieces like
Aircraft Spruce in USA and CND ?
Good luck
Christian T.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-zenith640-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-zenith640-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of pilot4pay
Sent: Sunday, April 03, 2011 11:42
Subject: Zenith640-List: Re: A Newbie from Malaysia
Welcome Steve!
There was a fellow, Christian Trembly I believe, who was building from
plans, but he has since abandoned his project in favor of a certified
aircraft.
I am building from a kit, and between Mark and myself, I think we are about
the only two active 640 builders on here. There are a few others who have
already completed their aircraft, who will pop in from time to time and help
with questions though.
There are some claims of errors in the drawings, as respect to some parts,
so study the plans carefully. They can be a bit vague at times.
We rarely get input here from Zenair. I think they have lost interest in the
640. Their big market effort now is in LSA and the models made in Missouri.
Best of luck to you, we'll help when we can. I Still think the 640 is the
most economical and easy to build for it's load class, although maybe not
the fastest.
--------
Craig Smith
CH640 builder
SN: 0078
"Just think how stupid the average person is,
and then realize that half of them are even stupider!"
--George Carlin
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| Subject: | Re: A Newbie from Malaysia |
| From: | "stevetosh" <tosh_lincoln(at)yahoo.com> |
Thank you guys for the warm welcome, I do appreciate it alot and am happy to be
part of the group.
Well why am considering to build from plan is I totally want to know in details
of building and in full control as Christian have said, moreover I would like
to buy sub-kits from Zenair, but they never reply my mail once to know the shipping
cost to Malaysia or perhaps i haven't buy plans from them yet that's why
Christian am very happy with the questions you ask me about getting materials from
a company like aircraft spruce, this is why am here for you friends to help
me out by mentioning the core materials i will need and i can search it
locally, though aircraft spruce have a representative here but i think they
are more into composite.
So please what are the core materials I will need to build from Plans.
Thanks you all once again for the warm welcome and contribution.
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| From: | Christian Tremblay <cj.tremblay(at)videotron.ca> |
| Subject: | Re: A Newbie from Malaysia |
I Steve,
Like said Craig, Zenith don't realy support CH640 builders, may be, because
in the 4 places market, we don't represent the mass of the builder's kit for
Zenith. The 2 places and the LSA is a more lucrative market. Survive is the
key in aircraft industries... But, from here in Canada, I ordered some
pieces to Zenith, like Extented tank range, and I received all the parts in
good condition and in short delay.
I think the first step for you is ordered the plan. You will see. And with
the plan, and some local expertise, you can build the aircraft alone.
Secondo, If I will be at you place, I will try to evaluate support from any
aircraft suppliers like Spruce Aircraft. I think the real problem is there,
could you have all material that you will need ?
To help you, I sent to you an excell file, that I build, in attachment of
these email, of all pieces needed to build rudder, tail wing and wings are
inventoried. Some of these pieces refers to aircraft ANS part number other
refer to Zenith CH640 plans. Took a look, and try to find these materials
from your local suppliers.
See you
Christian T.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-zenith640-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-zenith640-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of stevetosh
Sent: Sunday, April 03, 2011 19:42
Subject: Zenith640-List: Re: A Newbie from Malaysia
Thank you guys for the warm welcome, I do appreciate it alot and am happy to
be part of the group.
Well why am considering to build from plan is I totally want to know in
details of building and in full control as Christian have said, moreover I
would like to buy sub-kits from Zenair, but they never reply my mail once to
know the shipping cost to Malaysia or perhaps i haven't buy plans from them
yet that's why
Christian am very happy with the questions you ask me about getting
materials from a company like aircraft spruce, this is why am here for you
friends to help me out by mentioning the core materials i will need and i
can search it locally, though aircraft spruce have a representative here
but i think they are more into composite.
So please what are the core materials I will need to build from Plans.
Thanks you all once again for the warm welcome and contribution.
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| Subject: | Re: A Newbie from Malaysia |
| From: | "stevetosh" <tosh_lincoln(at)yahoo.com> |
Christian thank you for the attachment i do appreciate it alot, I will try to
see if i can get those materials locally or ask Aircraft spruce, but am sure
if those materials are available at aircraft spruce it will be no problem for
me.
But I will like to ask did you order your materials from?
Thanks once again for the file you sent to me
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| Subject: | Re: A Newbie from Malaysia |
| From: | "Scott Stewart" <scott_stewart(at)agilent.com> |
Hi Steve,
Welcome to the list. Besides Christian, I am the only other person building the
CH-640 from plans on this list. I have developed a complete list of parts which
need to be fabricated and a layout plan for cutting the pieces from raw sheet
aluminum. I would be happy to share any of this with you once you decide
to jump into the project. I am over 80% done with the full airframe, so I am
further along than Christian at this point. (Thanks, Christian, for getting
me a really good head start a few years ago with your very detailed web site and
personal correspondence.)
I have found several errors with the set of plans I received in January 2008. I posted a list of these on the Matronics wiki site -- http://www.matronics.com/wiki/index.php/Complete_CH_640_Errata. All of these errors have been confirmed by Zenair, and they have told me they have updated their master files. When you order your plans, you should confirm if the dimensions have been fixed.
It's unfortunate that many people have found Zenair to be unresponsive. That has
not been my experience. Sometimes I have had to send a follow-up email after
not hearing from them for two days, but they always respond promptly after
that. For urgent issues, I have been able to call Mathieu Heintz directly and
talk through any problem. Michael Heintz is a member of my EAA chapter, so I
can also escalate issues through him.
Three years ago, like you, I was a complete newbie. I wasn't sure if I could build
a complete airplane from plans. So I purchased a half sheet of aluminum
and made two sets of wing ribs and two sets of stabilator ribs to practice. This
taught me a lot about the tools and techniques I would need without a big
investment. I recommend that you do something similar to this if you are new
to sheet metal fabrication.
Good luck with your build. The attached picture shows the status of my fuselage
last year. Please let me know if you have any questions, and I'll be happy
to answer.
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Scott Stewart
s/n: 0092
Building from plans
Rudder and Stabilator complete. Wings at 85%. Fuselage at 70%.
Construction on hold while I help a friend build his RV-9A.
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| From: | "Joe" <backstagelive(at)gmail.com> |
| Subject: | Opening at Gruenhagen |
I have one room available at Gruenhagen Hall for the Oshkosh EAA convention.
This room is among the rooms reserved for Zenith Aircraft builders and
Enthusiasts. The room is available dur to a cancalation. If you are
intrested, please shoot me an E-mail at backstagelive(at)gmail.com and please
give me your phone number. I will call you right away and confirm the room.
Thanks.
Joe Scheibinger
"Zeniths to Oshkosh" project
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| Subject: | Re: A Newbie from Malaysia |
| From: | "stevetosh" <tosh_lincoln(at)yahoo.com> |
Hi Scott,
Nice and very happy to read from you, this is a wonderful job and nice job am hoping
i could do something like this in few years after i started my project.
Not am only a newbie to metal but I never build anything before but I am too sure
I can get it done with you guys in shearing ideas with me.
I am going to order my plans from Zenith soon, as am now seeing a good response
from you guys. I must say you are all my inspirations towards this project as
here in Malaysia no one ever build from ever build any plane from plans before,
so its going to be wonderful mentioning the names of people who give me the
support and inspiration on completing the project.
I must say thank you Guys for the Inspiration. But Scott what are the tools and
going to need as I always wonder which tools are used in forming and shaping
some parts like the ribs and the likes. Could you please tell me so I can start
from there in setting up my workshop.
Thank you.
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| Subject: | Re: A Newbie from Malaysia |
| From: | "Scott Stewart" <scott_stewart(at)agilent.com> |
Hi Steve,
Make sure you read through the "getting started" packet at http://www.zenithair.com/kit-data/tools.htm. This shows the basic hand tools and work benches you will need. Also, since you are building from plans, you will need access to a bending brake and shear. I have access to a 1 meter wide shear and brake at my work place, and I have been able to use these to fabricate most of the metal pieces. All of the curved pieces, like wing ribs and bulkheads, are formed by hammering the metal around wood forms. The plans contain detailed dimensions for the forms.
For larger pieces, like the wing leading edge skin, you will need to fabricate
your own tooling jigs. There are many ways to make these, and the internet is
full of suggestions. Again, I would be happy to show you what I did when you
get to that point.
Many of the parts are fabricated from steel which need to be welded. If you don't
have welding experience, you will need to have someone weld them locally or
purchase these parts from Zenair. You will also need to decide whether to have
the aluminum fuel tanks welded locally or purchase them fully complete from
Zenair.
The main things you will need to get this project done are patience and determination.
You will encounter many highs and lows along your journey. Highs when
pieces come together into a beautiful assembly; lows when parts don't fit and
need to be remade. This is all normal, and thousands of builders go through
this same process as they build their dream.
Good luck. Let us know when you start.
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Scott Stewart
s/n: 0092
Building from plans
Rudder and Stabilator complete. Wings at 85%. Fuselage at 80%.
Construction slowed while I help a friend build his RV-9A.
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| Subject: | Re: A Newbie from Malaysia |
| From: | "super58d" <smarkburrows(at)gmail.com> |
h
Hey Scott,
I went to your errate page and it said there was no text. Did i do something
wrong?
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Mark
s/n 094
My Build Site:
http://www.mykitlog.com/stephen363/
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| Subject: | Re: A Newbie from Malaysia |
| From: | "stevetosh" <tosh_lincoln(at)yahoo.com> |
Thank you Scott, I really appreciate it.
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| Subject: | Re: A Newbie from Malaysia |
| From: | "pilot4pay" <pilot4profit(at)sbcglobal.net> |
Here is a link to Zenith construction FAQ: http://www.zenithair.com/images/kit-data/college.html
http://www.zenithair.com/images/kit-data/faq-gen.htm
here is a link to a website with a lot of how tos and scratch build tips.
http://www.ch601.org/
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Craig Smith
CH640 builder
SN: 0078
"Just think how stupid the average person is,
and then realize that half of them are even stupider!"
--George Carlin
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| Subject: | Re: A Newbie from Malaysia |
| From: | "stevetosh" <tosh_lincoln(at)yahoo.com> |
A big thanks to you Pilot4play for those links.
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| From: | "super58d" <smarkburrows(at)gmail.com> |
I ran across a couple more questions about the fuel tanks if anyone can help:
The fuel sender float arm needs to be bent. Does anyone have a measurement of how
far back from either end it needs to be bent and is is a 90 degree angle? I
assume the end that attaches to the sending unit only needs to go into the rotating
attachment far enough to catch on the opposite stop?
The fuel sender instructions talk about a back plate and cut-out to get it inn
the tank. Is it possible to attach the sender directly to the tank, the metal
there has been beefed up and looks like it could handle it. If so, what hardware
is recommended for use?
The sender goes from 10-180 ohms. Is the lower resistance for a full or empty tank?
For the tank fittings (finger strainer, drain valve, gas cap, etc) do I need to
coat them with a sealant, o-rings, or pipe tape or will they make a good seal
on their own ?
I realized that the tank sits too far forward and won't allow the skins to sit
flush with the ribs, so I now have to trim the "L" brackets on the spar and and
add "L" brackets to them for that isolation mentioned in an earlier post. Craig,
if you have any pics, drawings, or data on electronic fuel injection I'd
love to see what you have if you wouldn't mind posting it here or e-mailing it
to me. Any help on these issues would be greatly appreciated.
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Mark
s/n 094
My Build Site:
http://www.mykitlog.com/stephen363/
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| Subject: | Re: A Newbie from Malaysia |
| From: | "stevetosh" <tosh_lincoln(at)yahoo.com> |
Hello Guys,
Please which one is better about shear, i can found hydraulic which is expensive,
and there is manual shear machine. So which one should i go for. But I found
a shear plan on 601.org but dont really understand the plan. Any advice?
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| Subject: | Re: cabin space compaired to early Cherokee 140s |
| From: | "super58d" <smarkburrows(at)gmail.com> |
I am still on my wings, and haven't actually sat in the back of a 640, but from
the one I scrutinized at AMD in Georgia it appears to have about the same dimensions
as a Cherokee. I think it's easier to get in and out of than a Cherokee
is though because you can get into both sides. I always thought you have to
be a contortionist to get into the Cherokee because of only having a right door.
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Mark
s/n 094
My Build Site:
http://www.mykitlog.com/stephen363/
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| Subject: | Re: A Newbie from Malaysia |
| From: | "super58d" <smarkburrows(at)gmail.com> |
Scott and gang,
I reviewed the errata again and found something of note. I bought those new CAD
plans when they came out about a year ago and found something interesting.
Here is the errata in question:
"Drawing 640V1, Revision 4 - Item 1, Wing Spar Extension. The plans dimension
"~405" to the first lightening hole. Change this to 350 mm. 640V2 wing spar
extension assembly shows the lightening hole half-way between the two (L) pieces.
Adding the dimensions: 25 mm for spar cap overlap + 225 mm from overlap bend
to first (L) + 100 mm from first (L) to center of lightening hole = 350 mm."
My old plans had the distance at 405 like you said Scott, but the new CAD plans
have it as approx 305mm. Not the 350mm The errata page said it is supposed to
be. Zenair obviously fixed the mistake (but left the revision number the same)
but now we need to figure out if the 305mm or the 350mm is correct. Both pictures
of 640-V-2 show the lightening hole slightly closer to the inboard "L" angle
than the outer one. There is nothing out there really so I doubt 45mm difference
will matter at all though. Scott, I didn't want to update the errata
page until we got a resolution on which number is correct.
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Mark
s/n 094
My Build Site:
http://www.mykitlog.com/stephen363/
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| Subject: | Re: A Newbie from Malaysia |
| From: | "pilot4pay" <pilot4profit(at)sbcglobal.net> |
stevetosh wrote:
> Hello Guys,
>
> Please which one is better about shear, i can found hydraulic which is expensive,
and there is manual shear machine. So which one should i go for. But I found
a shear plan on 601.org but dont really understand the plan. Any advice?
Unless you plan on making a commercial venture out of your kit building, a manual
shear should be just fine. Many get by without a shear at all, but as a scratch
builder, it probably would save you time. On thin stock, scoring with an
Olfa knife works very well.
--------
Craig Smith
CH640 builder
SN: 0078
"Just think how stupid the average person is,
and then realize that half of them are even stupider!"
--George Carlin
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| Subject: | Re: A Newbie from Malaysia |
| From: | "Scott Stewart" <scott_stewart(at)agilent.com> |
Hi Mark,
I went out to the hangar where my wings are stored to measure and photograph the
lightening hole. I used a crude measuring tape in the photograph just to demonstrate
the distances. (And please forgive the dirt collected in the wing while
in storage.)
You can see the rivet line versus the position of the lightening hole. I suggest
the 350mm dimension, but you can change this +/- 30 mm without affecting anything.
Moving it 45 mm is too much. Notice how the hole would overlap the vertical
"L" positioned at 250 mm from the edge of the wing spar extension.
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Scott Stewart
s/n: 0092
Building from plans
Rudder and Stabilator complete. Wings at 85%. Fuselage at 80%.
Construction slowed while I help a friend build his RV-9A.
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| Subject: | Re: cabin space compaired to early Cherokee 140s |
| From: | "mcjon77" <mcjon77(at)yahoo.com> |
Thanks, Mark!
The reason why I asked is that I always hear about how small the rear seats are,
but they look pretty similar to the rear seat area of the older Cherokees.
Good luck on your project!
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Jon McDonald
Building Sonex #1287
Next up CH 701 :D
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| Subject: | Re: A Newbie from Malaysia |
| From: | "stevetosh" <tosh_lincoln(at)yahoo.com> |
Pilot4play thanks alot for that answer on the shear machine, i do not intend
to be a kit builder. LOL
Here is my progress so far, I have gotten a source for Aluminum sheet here, but
am wondering if its same quality with those in US & Canada. Also I contact homebuildhelp
to purchase a DVD on scratch building but still waiting to purchase
till i get material and tools to practice.
Now what about the Bend machine any substitution for this? As i wouldn't like to
keep those machine after building as they are no more usefully.
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| Subject: | Re: A Newbie from Malaysia |
| From: | "super58d" <smarkburrows(at)gmail.com> |
Scott,
Looks like you are right. Zenair must have updated the plans and switched the
numbers around. The pieces come pre-fabricated for me, but I imagine it would
tick me off if I scratch built the spar extension only to find out later that
the hole was in the wrong place!
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Mark
s/n 094
My Build Site:
http://www.mykitlog.com/stephen363/
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| Subject: | Re: A Newbie from Malaysia |
| From: | "pilot4pay" <pilot4profit(at)sbcglobal.net> |
stevetosh wrote:
> Pilot4play thanks alot for that answer on the shear machine, i do not intend
to be a kit builder. LOL
>
> Here is my progress so far, I have gotten a source for Aluminum sheet here, but
am wondering if its same quality with those in US & Canada. Also I contact
homebuildhelp to purchase a DVD on scratch building but still waiting to purchase
till i get material and tools to practice.
>
> Now what about the Bend machine any substitution for this? As i wouldn't like
to keep those machine after building as they are no more usefully.
Steve, Simply no way for us to judge the quality of the metal. Unfortunately, your
side of the world has a lot of counterfeiters. Anyone can make a roll stamp
for ASTM and metal grades.
DVD is a good start.
As for the bending brake, it is possible to build a serviceable brake. I think
there are plans on the 601.org website. Or you can come up with your own design.
But for such a large project, it would be hard to go without one. You might
try to find a local metal fab shop, and perhaps make a deal to make some production
runs. Also (my opinion) I feel the V-press type brake is better than the
conventional hinged for close work with multiple bends. It might be even easier
to build your own of that type. You will need to make dies for each radius,
make them interchangeable. Review your set of drawings before starting, be sure
your building to the size you will need.
Lastly, I wanted to point out that no matter what, you will likely need to purchase
the canopy kit from Zenair. Just about everything else is scratch build able,
but that canopy is a real zinger. Plexiglas and composite construction, it
would probably cost you at least twice the cost of the purchase from Zenair.
Building a plug, getting the layups right, forming the glass, plus, there are
no dimensions for this in the plans at all.
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Craig Smith
CH640 builder
SN: 0078
"Just think how stupid the average person is,
and then realize that half of them are even stupider!"
--George Carlin
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| Subject: | Re: A Newbie from Malaysia |
| From: | "stevetosh" <tosh_lincoln(at)yahoo.com> |
Thank you Pilot4pay for your usual response and advice. I think I better get my
materials from Aircraft Spruce and I will search for the V press type brake.
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| From: | "steveadams" <dr_steve_adams(at)yahoo.com> |
You don't need a back plate for the fuel senders. Just tap the holes and screw
it onto the tank. I used something called "sealube" from aircraft spruce on the
tank fittings as well as the screws that hold the senders on. It is like a thick
paste which does not harden, and is not soluble in gas. As far as the bend
for the floats, it is approximately a 90 deg bend but takes a little trial and
error to get right. I actually mounted mine with the floats facing back toward
the inboard end of the tank to better measure fuel from 1/2 full to empty.
Because of the slope of the tank in the wing, putting them the other way will
read empty when there is still 4-5 gallons of fuel in the tank. I am attaching
a photo of how I bent one of the senders. It is not pretty, but it works.
Steve
N621j
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| From: | "super58d" <smarkburrows(at)gmail.com> |
Awesome Steve, thanks a lot that helps quite a bit. Looks like your finger got
caught somewhere you didn't want it to! Ouch.
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Mark
s/n 094
My Build Site:
http://www.mykitlog.com/stephen363/
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| From: | "steveadams" <dr_steve_adams(at)yahoo.com> |
super58d wrote:
> Awesome Steve, thanks a lot that helps quite a bit. Looks like your finger got
caught somewhere you didn't want it to! Ouch.
Yeah, probably finessing the darn sender in and out of the tank 20 times getting
the bend right.
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| From: | "Joe" <backstagelive(at)gmail.com> |
| Subject: | Open Room for Oshkosh |
I just found out we have 1 room available at Gruenhagen Hall in Oshkosh for
the Zeniths to Oshkosh party. This will be on the Zenith floor. $55 per
night 4 night minimum - 2 people. Please call me at 920-237-1450 if you
would like to have that room for EAA in Oshkosh this year. I will also be
sending out an E-blast to the people we have on our Zeniths to Oshkosh
mailing list. If you would like to sign up please E-mail me at
backstagelive(at)gmail.com and I will put you on the list. Thanks everybody!!!!
Joe in Oshkosh
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| From: | "Joe" <backstagelive(at)gmail.com> |
| Subject: | Zeniths to Oshkosh |
ZENITHS TO OSHKOSH
Hi Everyone!
Here is an update on the festivities for the "Zeniths to Oshkosh" get
together for the Oshkosh EAA Convention.
The Banquet
This years Zenith banquet will be one to remember. We will be honoring Chris
Heintz for his amazing accomplishments in aviation. The banquet will be held
on the grounds of EAA at the Nature Center on Wednesday, July 27th, with
cocktails at 6:30 and dinner following at 7:30. Door prizes will follow the
banquet. Attending the banquet will be past president and Chairman of the
Board of EAA, Tom Poberezny. I will send another newsletter closer to the
convention with transportation and parking information. The catering will be
performed by Robbins in Oshkosh, with a bar provided by Fratello's. Tickets
for the event will be $20 each. The maximum seating will be 250 and you will
be able to purchase your tickets by mail with the information at the end of
the newsletter.
EAA Zenith Showplane Parking
EAA has confirmed the Zenith showplane parking will be just north of the
Homebuilders center on the flight line! So far, we have 30 Zeniths that have
confirmed showplane parking, and 10 Zeniths that will be parking in aircraft
camping. We have spaces for another 20 Zenith aircraft available. To reserve
a spot see the information listed at the end of the newsletter. I will also
be providing all the arrival information you will need by E-mail and in
future newsletters.
Accommodations
We have sold out an entire floor at Gruenhagen Hall at the University in
Oshkosh! We have Zenith builders from all over the world staying in 34
rooms. If you are coming to Oshkosh and need a place to stay, please get
hold of me by E-mail or phone and I will find a place for you. Many of my
neighbors have asked if they can help by providing rooms during EAA. Even if
you can't find a hotel room, I can take care of your accommodations.
What's Needed?
We could use some volunteers for the event. We will need 4 volunteers to
come to the banquet early and help make sure everything is working smoothly,
and to work the registration table. If possible, I would like to have a
volunteer who is knowledgeable with the Zenith Company to escort Tom
Poberezny during the banquet. Also invited to the banquet will be Paul
Poberezny and Adam Smith. Is there anyone who would like to volunteer to
work as a photographer for the event, and for Monday's 11:00 AM EAA
presentation to Chris Heintz by EAA on the Aerosqare? If you would like to
volunteer, see the information at the end of the newsletter.
We would also like a catchy name for the banquet before we print up the
invitations! Do you have any ideas what to call the banquet before I send
out our first official press release next week?
Group Arrival by Air
I received a nice letter from Andy Elliot I would like to pass along. If you
would like to work with Andy, please contact him at this address listed
below.
"I am looking for a few other experienced formation pilots who might like to
join me in showing the Bonanza, RV and warbird folks that they are not the
only ones who can do it! I'd like to put together a 4-ship for the
homebuilt review flights on Monday (and perhaps for an arrival flight on
Sunday).
I am putting out a call to any interested pilots with prior military, FFI or
FAST training only because there will be minimum time for organization and
practice. What would be required is a briefing and at least one practice
session away from Oshkosh, perhaps at Dodge County (KUNU), beforehand, most
likely Sunday morning. For those of you planning earlier arrivals, it *is*
possible to get out of Oshkosh in the morning and back in the same day,
especially since we will have reserved :) parking spots.
Anyway, if any of you on the list are qualified and interested, please get
back to me off-list. If we get a sufficient response, I'll work the
coordination, scheduling and logistics."
Andy Elliott
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N601GE/Z601XL/TD/Corvair
298 hrs since 11/08
a.s.elliott(at)cox.net
mobile: 480-695-9568
Contact Information
To reserve a Zenith showplane parking spot, volunteer your services, reserve
accommodations, or send your ideas for the party, please contact Joe
Scheibinger at 920-237-1450, or E-mail at backstagelive@ Gmail.com
To reserve your banquet tickets, please send a check for $20 per person to
Joe Scheibinger, 2809 Scenic Drive, Oshkosh, WI, 54904.
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| From: | "Joe" <backstagelive(at)gmail.com> |
Hi Everyone,
Things are going very well with the Zeniths to Oshkosh campaign. Almost too
well! So I'm writing to give you some more information. So far, we have
pre-sold about 60 tickets to the Zenith banquet honoring Chris. The reason I
am writing is because in about a week, I will be putting a press release out
to the media that will include information on the banquet. I want to make
sure that each and every builder and enthusiast on this list that will be
coming to Oshkosh has a ticket before they are sold out. We have room for a
very comfortable 200, but we can stretch it to 250 if needed. The factory
will have about 75 tickets to distribute for Monday's EAA, but I have a
feeling those will go very fast! Please let me know if you would like
tickets. You can send me a check for $20 per person and a self addressed
envelope and I will be shipping out the tickets in about 2 weeks. We are up
to 30 showplanes so far! Also, I have a 2011 NOTAM for Oshkosh that I can
E-mail to you if you need it. For you folks flying in and would like to park
in the Zenith Showplane Parking, I will have special instructions for you in
about 3 weeks. This is going to be one hell of a party! See you in Oshkosh.
Joe Scheibinger
2809 Scenic Drive
Oshkosh, WI 54904
920-237-1450
backstagelive(at)gmail.com
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| From: | "pilot4pay" <pilot4profit(at)sbcglobal.net> |
Mark, I was going through some of the original photos supplied with the CH-640
disk. There is a series of CH-2000 wing photos that shows a detail of the grounding
strap connection.
You are probably well beyond that point, but I'll post it anyway.
Hope you're making progress. I have finished the flaps and am just about 3/4 through
the ailerons.
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Craig Smith
CH640 builder
SN: 0078
"Just think how stupid the average person is,
and then realize that half of them are even stupider!"
--George Carlin
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| From: | "pilot4pay" <pilot4profit(at)sbcglobal.net> |
Does anyone have any tips on the aileron tips?
The skins come bent pretty tight, I followed the new pictorial assembly guidance.
When I got to trimming for the outboard tips, the dimensions in the drawing
(640-a-1) just didn't make sense. The rib 4 rivet line is 195mm inboard of the
untrimmed edge, the detail says add 15 mm to the rivet line and start the cut,
which should be no more than 135mm from out board edge. 135+15 is 150mm, not
195.
Anyway, cutting in 135mm would have you cutting into the hinge. So I made a conservative
add of 15mm from the end of the hinge, then drew straight lines to the
corner of the bottom trailing edgeand to a point 40mm back from the top bend.
that is someting on the order of 120mm cut back.
Started to try to fit the aileron tip cap on and it just isn't going to fit. Cutting
deeper would make the problem worse.
Did anyone have any trouble figuring out how to trim the tip, or did you trim it
to match the finished wing?
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Craig Smith
CH640 builder
SN: 0078
"Just think how stupid the average person is,
and then realize that half of them are even stupider!"
--George Carlin
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| From: | Christian Tremblay <cj.tremblay(at)videotron.ca> |
I Craig
Second email,
First, after wings tip assembly done, (my special conception) with a metal
wing tip, I understand ailerons where not sufficiently long anyway. I added
a small extention piece and fix the aileron tip on it.
I also do some minors adjustments on mesurement for the paper tip stencil
to reflect minors differences on my aileron assembly. I think the zenith
mesurements are not very accurate for any assembly.
All that finishing job must be done when the aileron is assembly is fix on
the wing with clecos and the wing tip itself installed. Sure, It's an artist
job of trimming and assembly, but alum metal is a good an easy rework
material.
Good luck Craig.
See photos.
Notes to buiders: my own project wings, tail wings, rudder and center web
spars are for sale . Asks for photos.
Christian
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[mailto:owner-zenith640-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of pilot4pay
Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2011 18:57
Subject: Zenith640-List: Aeleron tips
Does anyone have any tips on the aileron tips?
The skins come bent pretty tight, I followed the new pictorial assembly
guidance. When I got to trimming for the outboard tips, the dimensions in
the drawing (640-a-1) just didn't make sense. The rib 4 rivet line is 195mm
inboard of the untrimmed edge, the detail says add 15 mm to the rivet line
and start the cut, which should be no more than 135mm from out board edge.
135+15 is 150mm, not 195.
Anyway, cutting in 135mm would have you cutting into the hinge. So I made a
conservative add of 15mm from the end of the hinge, then drew straight lines
to the corner of the bottom trailing edgeand to a point 40mm back from the
top bend. that is someting on the order of 120mm cut back.
Started to try to fit the aileron tip cap on and it just isn't going to fit.
Cutting deeper would make the problem worse.
Did anyone have any trouble figuring out how to trim the tip, or did you
trim it to match the finished wing?
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Craig Smith
CH640 builder
SN: 0078
"Just think how stupid the average person is,
and then realize that half of them are even stupider!"
--George Carlin
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| From: | Christian Tremblay <cj.tremblay(at)videotron.ca> |
I Craig,
First email,
Yes, there are 3 photos about the tips. This is not a simple task, intall
and trim the tip for fitting.
I started from mesurement from plan and made some adjustment.
Check next photos for assembly
Christ
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Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2011 18:57
Subject: Zenith640-List: Aeleron tips
Does anyone have any tips on the aileron tips?
The skins come bent pretty tight, I followed the new pictorial assembly
guidance. When I got to trimming for the outboard tips, the dimensions in
the drawing (640-a-1) just didn't make sense. The rib 4 rivet line is 195mm
inboard of the untrimmed edge, the detail says add 15 mm to the rivet line
and start the cut, which should be no more than 135mm from out board edge.
135+15 is 150mm, not 195.
Anyway, cutting in 135mm would have you cutting into the hinge. So I made a
conservative add of 15mm from the end of the hinge, then drew straight lines
to the corner of the bottom trailing edgeand to a point 40mm back from the
top bend. that is someting on the order of 120mm cut back.
Started to try to fit the aileron tip cap on and it just isn't going to fit.
Cutting deeper would make the problem worse.
Did anyone have any trouble figuring out how to trim the tip, or did you
trim it to match the finished wing?
--------
Craig Smith
CH640 builder
SN: 0078
"Just think how stupid the average person is,
and then realize that half of them are even stupider!"
--George Carlin
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| From: | "pilot4pay" <pilot4profit(at)sbcglobal.net> |
Thanks for the information Chris. I figured there was something more to this. The
tip blank supplied by Zenair appears to be for the AMD-2000. I don't know how
different the ailerons are from the 2 models, but the blank looks nothing like
the one in the plans or the one you made.
Will be setting aileron subassemblies on the shelf until the wings are finished.
Will very likely have to make new tips anyway. They are easy parts anyway.
Thanks again.
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Craig Smith
CH640 builder
SN: 0078
"Just think how stupid the average person is,
and then realize that half of them are even stupider!"
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| From: | "Joe" <backstagelive(at)gmail.com> |
| Subject: | Zeniths to Oshkosh update |
Zeniths to Oshkosh Update
It's only 3 weeks to EAA! For us lucky ones that live close to the Oshkosh
airport, EAA for us is the entire months of July! It's fun to drive out and
see hangars under construction, aircraft flying in early, and volunteers
from all over the world working feverishly on the grounds. This years
convention I feel has the promise of being one of the largest ever. Hotels
filled up early this year due to the tremendous roster of exciting events.
Special days of celebration for Burt Rutan, Bob Hoover, and of course our
very special tribute to Chris Heintz and the family.
As we get closer to the big event, I will put out another press release one
week before the convention with maps, parking instructions, and times of
events.
On Monday, July 25th, EAA will honor Chris Heintz with a special
presentation in the ConocoPhillips Plaza, formerly known as Aeroshell
Square. One of each kind of aircraft design will be on hand for the ceremony
and a special homebuilt review will follow. The presentation will take place
from 10:00 AM - 11:00 AM. Chris will receive his award from EAA around 10:30
from Tom Poberezny. There will be lots of press there and they want to talk
to all Zenith pilots! Jerry Burke, well known television broadcaster from
Wisconsin, will be doing interviews. I have a list of aircraft owners that
have volunteered to place their airplane in the flight review. Next week,
Sebastien will pick out the aircraft we will use. Aircraft will be chosen by
type and pilot skills.
The honorary banquet for Chris will be held on Wednesday, July 27th in the
Nature Center, on the grounds of EAA. Sponsors for the event are the EAA,
Contact Magazine, Aircraft Spruce, Sporty's Pilot Shop, Flight Crafters, and
David Clark Headsets. Attending will be Tom Poberezny, Chairman of the Board
at EAA. For tickets, send a self addressed stamped envelope along with $20
per person to Joe Scheibinger, 2809 Scenic Drive, Oshkosh, WI 54904. For
more information contact Joe at backstagelive(at)gmail.com.
So far we have 128 reservations! if you are planning to attend, I suggest
you order your tickets by mail. Tickets will also be available at the Zenith
trade show booth in the Homebuilders section just north of the brown arch.
These remaining tickets will go fast! Attending this year's banquet will be
Tom and Paul Poberezny. Lots of door prizes will be given away including a
beautiful set of David Clark headsets, and IFR pilots course from Sporty's,
and subscriptions to Contact magazine! For those of you that have purchased
tickets by mail, they will be going out in Wednesday's mail. In the
envelope, you will get a complete rundown of Zenith forums, auto parking for
the banquet, directions, etc. The same information will be available in the
Zenith tent on Monday's convention. I will also post attachments to the
Zenith company blog on Friday.
Most of you know from our blogs our youngest Zenith builder Sabrina. At the
age of 16, she built a beautiful Zenith 601 and she has set her sights on an
aviation engineering career. Sabrina will have the honor of being Paul
Poberezny's escort for the banquet! When she first heard she was going to be
Paul's wingman for the Zenith Banquet, she was at a loss for words. She had
seen him many times around previous Air Ventures but never had the
opportunity to speak with him. "What an honor! Cool!" She said.
Russell Lepre at Flight Crafters has designed a great T-shirt and hat with
the "Zeniths to Oshkosh" logo on it which he designed. Russell is donating a
T-shirt to every person who flies into Oshkosh with a Zenith aircraft! If
you would like to purchase a T-shirt and hat for this year's convention, go
the Flight Crafters website at www.flightcrafters.com.
So far we have over 30 aircraft that will be parking in the Zenith showplane
parking and about 20 that will be in the aircraft camping area. If you would
like to reserve a spot in showplane parking, please E-mail Joe Scheibinger
at backstagelive(at)gmail.com or call 920-237-1450.
William Wynne has volunteered to be Tom Poberezny's escort. Zenith Builders
Mack Kreizenback, Ken Pavlou, and Larry Zepp will be volunteering their time
in running the banquet. We still could use a volunteer photographer and
someone with a video camera for the banquet and other events. If you would
like to volunteer to help the Zeniths to Oshkosh campaign, contact Joe at
920-237-1450.
Andy Schumacher is the manager of Gruenhagen Hall during the EAA. Andy has
worked his tail off securing rooms for the Zeniths to Oshkosh project. Many
of the rooms weren't even available when we asked him to support us. Andy
deserves a great deal of thanks from all of us. How can we thank him? Andy
has never had a flight in a small aircraft before! Would there be anyone who
would like to take Andy up during the conventioon in their Zenith airplane?
Have a safe and memorable trip to Oshkosh everyone.
Joe Scheibinger
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| From: | "Joe" <backstagelive(at)gmail.com> |
| Subject: | Need a ride from Milwaukee to EAA |
Is there anyone flying into Milwaukee on Sunday July 24th for the EAA
convention? I have a fellow Zenith builder that is looking for a ride to
Oshkosh. His plane gets into Milwaukee about 2:15 PM. Contact me off list at
backstagelive(at)gmail.com or 920-237-1450
Joe in Oshkosh
Zeniths to Oshkosh
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| Subject: | Zenair CH-640 website down |
| From: | "pilot4pay" <pilot4profit(at)sbcglobal.net> |
I tried to access the 640 website today, and got an error. Something I noticed
a few weeks back was when I accessed the site, a completely different page flashed
briefly on the screen before going to the original site.
I hope this means a major upgrade to the 640 website. It has languished unattended
for way too long. Many links were broken, stuff had not been updated since
almost the introduction of the model.
I'm ever hopeful that Zenith will give the 640 the respect and attention it deserves.
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Craig Smith
CH640 builder
SN: 0078
"Just think how stupid the average person is,
and then realize that half of them are even stupider!"
--George Carlin
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| From: | "steveadams" <dr_steve_adams(at)yahoo.com> |
Well, I never thought I would be doing this, but circumstances have forced me to
put my aircraft up for sale. It was completed in 2005 from a quickbuild kit,
and has about 725 hours on it. I have all build logs, drawings, IPL's, photos,
maintenance logs etc. It's been a great plane. If interested I can provide more
details and photos. I am asking $95,000 for it.
Thanks,
Steve Adams
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Your personal Contribution makes a difference and keeps all of the Matronics Email
Lists and Forums completely ad-free.
Please make your Contribution today to keep these services up and running!
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Thank you in advance!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List and Forum Administrator
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Please Make A Contribution To Support Your Lists |
Dear Listers,
There is no advertising income to support the Matronics Email Lists and Forums.
The operation is supported 100% by your personal Contributions during the November
Fund Raiser.
Please make your Contribution today to support the continued operation and upgrade
of these services. You can pick up a really nice gift for making your Contribution
too!
You may use a Credit Card or Paypal at the Matronics Contribution Site here:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
or, you can send a personal check to the following address:
Matronics / Matt Dralle
581 Jeannie Way
Livermore, CA 94550
Thank you in advance for your generous support!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List and Forum Administrator
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Make Sure You're Listed! List of Contributors Published |
in December!
Dear Listers,
The List of Contributors (LOC) is just around the corner! In December I post a
list of everyone that so generously made a Contribution to support the Lists.
Its my way of publicly thanking everyone that took a minute to show their appreciation
for the Lists.
Won't you take minute and assure that your name is on the upcoming LOC? Tell others
that you appreciate the Lists. Making a Contribution to support the Lists
is fast and easy using your Visa, MasterCard, or Paypal account:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Or, drop a personal check in the mail to:
Matt Dralle / Matronics
581 Jeannie Way
Livermore CA 94550
USA
I would like to thank everyone that has so generously made a Contribution thus
far during this year's List Fund Raiser! Remember that its YOUR support that
keeps these Lists running and improving! Don't forget to include a little comment
about how the Lists have helped you!
Thank you!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | What's Your Contribution Used For? |
Dear Listers,
You might have wondered at some pointd, "What's my Contribution used for?" Here
are just a few examples of what your direct List support enables... It provides
for the expensive, commercial-grade Internet connection used on the List.
It pays for the regular system hardware and software upgrades enabling the highest
performance possible for List services such as the Archive Search Engine,
List Browser, and the Web Forums. It pays for over 21 years (yeah, I really
said *21* years) worth of on line archive data available for instant search
and access. And, it offsets the many hours spent writing, developing, and maintaining
the custom applications that power this List Service such as the List
Browse, Search Engine, Forums, and Wiki.
But most importantly, your List Contribution enables a forum where you and your
peers can communicate freely in an environment that is free from moderation,
censorship, advertising, commercialism, SPAM, and computer viruses.
It is YOUR CONTRIBUTION that directly enables these aspects of Matronics List services.
Please support it today with your List Contribution. Its one of the
best investments you can make in your Sport!
List Contribution Web Site:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
or, you can send a personal check to the following address:
Matronics / Matt Dralle
581 Jeannie Way
Livermore, CA 94550
Thank you for your support!
Matt Dralle
Email List Administrator
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Please Support The Lists... |
Dear Listers,
Just a reminder that November is the Matronics Email List Fund Raiser month. There
are some very nice incentive gifts to choose from as well! Your Contributions
alone keep these services up and running.
Please make your Contribution today at:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
or by dropping a personal check in the mail to:
Matt Dralle / Matronics
581 Jeannie Way
Livermore CA 94550
Thank you!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | The Value of a Forum... |
If you look forward to checking your List email everyday (and a lot of you have
written to say that you do!), then you're probably getting at least $20 or $30
worth of Entertainment from the Lists each year. You'd pay twice that for a
subscription to some magazine or even a dinner out. Arn't the Lists worth at
least that much to you? Wouldn't it be great if you could pay that same amount
and get a well-managed media source free of advertising, SPAM, and viruses?
Come to think of it, you do...
Won't you take a minute to make your Contribution today and support YOUR Lists?
Please make a Contribution today at:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
or by dropping a personal check in the mail to:
Matt Dralle / Matronics
581 Jeannie Way
Livermore CA 94550
Again, I want to say THANK YOU to everyone that has made a Contribution thus far
during this year's List Fund Raiser!! These Lists are made possible exclusively
through YOUR generosity!!
Thank you for your support!
Matt Dralle
Email List Admin.
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Make Sure You're Listed -- List of Contributors Published |
Dec 1!
Dear Listers,
The List of Contributors (LOC) is just around the corner! On December 1st I post
a list of everyone that so generously made a Contribution to support the Lists.
Its my way of publicly thanking everyone that took a minute to show their
appreciation for the Lists.
As a number of people have pointed out in their Contribution comments, the Lists
are a whole lot more valuable than your typical magazine subscription!
Won't you take minute and assure that your name is on the upcoming LOC? Tell others
that you appreciate the Lists. Making a Contribution to support the Lists
is fast and easy using your Visa, MasterCard, or Paypal account:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Or, by dropping a personal check in the mail to:
Matronics / Matt Dralle
581 Jeannie Way
Livermore CA 94550
I would like to thank everyone that has so generously made a Contribution thus
far during this year's List Fund Raiser! Remember that its YOUR support that
keeps these Lists running and improving! Don't forget to include a little comment
about how the Lists have helped you!
Thank you!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Contributions Down By 20%... |
Dear Listers,
As of today, Contributions to the Matronics List Fund Raiser are lagging behind
last year at this time by roughly 20%. I have a Fund Raiser each year simply
to cover my operating costs for the Lists. I *do not* accept any advertising
income to support the Lists and rely solely on the Contributions of members to
keep the expenses paid.
I run all of my own servers and they are housed here locally, and the Internet
connection is a commercial-grade, T1 connection with public address space. I
also maintain a full backup system that does nightly backups of all List-related
data so that in the event of a server crash, all of the Lists and the many
years of List archive data could be restored onto a new server in a matter of
hours.
All of this costs a fair amount of money, not to mention a significant amount of
my personal time. I have a Fund Raiser each year to cover these costs and I
ask that members that feel they receive a benefit from my investments make a
modest Contribution each year to support the continued operation and upgrade of
these services.
If you enjoy the Lists, please make a Contribution today. I also offer some incentive
gifts for larger Contribution levels. At the Contribution Web Site, you
can use a credit card, Paypal, or personal check to show your support for the
continuation of these services:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Or, drop a personal check in the mail to:
Matt Dralle / Matronics
581 Jeannie Way
Livermore CA 94550
Thank you for your support!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Just A Few More Days To Make Your List Contribution... |
There is less than a week left in this year's List Fund Raiser and only a few short
days to grab one of the great Contribution Gifts available this year. Support
is still significantly lagging behind last year at this point but hopefully
it will pick up here towards the end. Please remember that it is solely the
Contributions of List members that keeps the Lists up and running as there
is no commercialism or advertising on the Matronics Lists and Forums.
The List Contribution web site is secure, fast, and easy and you can use a credit
card, Paypal:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Or, drop a personal check in the mail to:
Matt Dralle / Matronics
581 Jeannie Way
Livermore CA 94550
I want to thank everyone that has already made a generous contribution to support
the Lists!
Thank you!
Matt Dralle
Matronics EMail List and Forum Administrator
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Please Make A Contribution Today... |
Dear Listers,
A quick reminder that November is the annual List Fund Raiser and the List of Contributors
is quickly approching. The Matronics Lists are 100% member supported
and all of the operational costs are provided for by your Contributions during
this time of the year.
Your personal Contribution makes a big difference and keeps all of the Matronics
Email Lists and Forums completely ad-free.
Please make your Contribution today to keep these services up and running!
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
or by dropping a personal check in the mail to:
Matt Dralle / Matronics
581 Jeannie Way
Livermore CA 94550
Thank you in advance!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List and Forum Administrator
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Just Two Days Left - Still Way Behind... |
Dear Listers,
There are just two more days left in this years List Fund Raiser. Over the last
few weeks I have received some really nice comments from members on what the
Lists have meant to them. I have included some of them below. Please read over
the comments and ponder on your own feelings about the Lists and the support
and camaraderie you have found here.
We are still way behind last year in terms of the number of contributions. I really
want to keep providing these services to the homebuilt community, but it
take resources. Since there's no advertising budget or deep pockets to keep
the operation a float, its solely your generosity during the Fund Raiser that
keeps things going. Please make a Contribution today.
If you've been putting off showing your support for the Lists, now is the time
to do it!
Make a contribution with a Credit Card or though PayPal at that Matronics Contribution
web site:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Or, drop a check in the mail:
Matronics / Matt Dralle
581 Jeannie Way
Livermore, CA 94550
Thank you in advance for your support!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
==================== A Few List Member Comments =====================
I get a lot of useful information and satisfaction from belonging to
your groups. Somehow you foster a great sense of community without
the baggage that accompanies other lists.
Dave S.
We do appreciate you running the lists spam and advertising free.
Jeff P.
I am celebrating my first flight day and you and the lists deserve
a thanks since without it my build would have taken twice as long.
Chris L.
I enjoy the list. Have my morning coffee with it!
Buddy M.
Your lists are the best investment of my time and money, bar none,
when it comes to interfacing with my fellow amateur builders.
Owen B.
Keep it going!! Thanks for taking over.
Wallace J.
I enjoy the Pietenpol List a lot.
Malcolm Z.
Thanks for your great site! As a new CJ-6 owner, your web site is an
invaluable resource.
Ken B.
Great informational source.
Fred S.
Thanks for doing this!
Lance G.
Thank you for the service i do enjoy the many hours I use on line with
the banter/ serious technical items.
Noel G.
Thanks for the years of builder support.
Roy H.
Great forum!
Roger C.
Thank you VERY MUCH, Matt, for carrying on with this great service.
The "Europa" community really appreciates it. All the best, Svein - now
celebrating 10 years as a subscriber, I think!
Svein J.
Matt, I'm building a much nicer and safer airplane because of your efforts.
Robert D.
21 years for you 9 years for me on the Zenith lists. Could not imagine
building and flying without Matronics.
Brian U.
Thanks for ALL the hard work and time you put into maintaining these
forums. As an EAA Tech counselor I recommend them often.
Paul M.
This Pietenpol list is a huge part of the motivation that keeps me working
on my project. This has been a great place for meeting like minded folks
and getting help for the difficult parts.
Thomas S.
Thanks for the excellent service Matt.
Frank S.
Matt, I'm a Sonex building, but I have to say that the Piet group is without
a doubt the most interesting.
Ken M.
I can't tell you how much I appreciate the Piet List. This is one of my sanity
lifelines!
Daniel H.
Your site has provided us over the years with excellent connections to others
for advice. Good job!
Bob M.
Kolb List is my #1 source!
Henry V.
Matt, you do a great job with this site. I've been with it since the
beginning!
John M.
I am very grateful for all of your excellent work on the List.
Arthur L.
Thank you for the service you provide us all!
Nicholas C.
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | [Please Read] - Last Official Day of List Fund Raiser! |
Dear Listers,
Its November 30th and that means a couple of things. Its my birthday again, 48
of them, in fact! But it also means that its that last official day of the
Matronics Email List Fund Raiser! If you been jones'n over one of those really
nice incentive gifts now is the time to jump on one!!
If you've been meaning to make a Contribution this month but have been putting
it off for some reason, NOW is the time!
I will be posting the List of Contributors in a few days, so you'll probably want
to be known as a person that supported the Lists!
I want to thank everyone that has so generously made a Contribution this year in
support of our Lists. It is your generosity that keeps this operation running
and I don't ever forget it. Hopefully everyone feels the same.
Below are a few more of the nice comments from Listers I've received this year.
Please read them over and see if you don't agree.
The List Contribution Web Site is fast and easy. Please support our habit by making
your Contribution right now:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Or, by dropping a personal check in the mail to:
Matt Dralle / Matronics
581 Jeannie Way
Livermore CA 94550
Thank you to all in advance!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
==================== A Few More List Member Comments =====================
I never would have ended up with the great flying airplane I have without
the help of people on the Pietenpol list. Thanks for giving us the medium
to communicate our questions, tips and suggestions.
Matt P.
Thanks for the hard work and maintaining the site commercial free. Good
luck for the future and this site has been a source of great friendship.
Peter B.
It is a great resource.
Jim G.
Thanks so much for your continuing support of the homebuilt community.
Gerald A.
You are doing an outstanding job running the list's. Keep it going.
Bill V.
Thanks for keeping this valuable information source going. Best of all
the forums.
George A.
Another Great year on the RV-List!
Thomas E.
Still the best source of information (& opinion) for builders on a wide
range of issues.
Martin H.
Matt, thanks for hosting and maintaining the lists!
Rumen D.
It is a great resource.
Bryan R.
Thanks for your continuing interest in Van's RV8 kitplanes.
Peter C.
I'm no longer building or flying but like to keep in touch with the current
generation of builders. Best wishes to a great list system.
Gerry C.
A great list that is most useful for builders.
Graham H.
Thanks for this wonderful tool!
Ralph C.
Thanks for a great service to the experimental aviation community.
Douglas D.
Great topics and loads of useful info keep the subject matter relevant.
George H.
Thanks for keeping this going.
Richard R.
Great facility and well managed.
Victor F.
Thanks for a great service.
John D.
Thank you for you time and efforts they have made Aviation a better
place for everyone.
Jim W.
I still enjoy getting the list in the morning.
Don M.
You provide a great resource.
David M.
You have probably saved a few necks over the years.
Robert F.
Thank you for being there.
Benjamin B.
You perform a great service.
Bruce M.
Thank you for providing this invaluable resource.
William D.
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Hardware Failure - Matronics Web Servers Currently Offline |
failure and is currently not available. Replacement hardware has been ordered
and should arrive on Tuesday 12/6/2011. All services should be restored
shortly there after.
During the outage, the Matronics Forums, Wiki, and other web-based List services
will NOT be available.
However, during the outage, all normal EMAIL based sevices WILL be available so
you may continue to post messages to the various lists without an issue.
I am so sorry for any inconvenience this web server outage has caused...
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Matronics Web Services Restored! |
Dear Listers,
web services have been fully restored including the Web Forums, List Browse,
Archive Search, Wiki, and AeroElectric web sites. It was quite an ordeal getting
the replacement boards for the server, but things went back together tonight
and are up and running nicely. The first company I ordered the boards from
originally called me a day later to say that, whoops, they really didn't have
them in stock after all... Fortunately, I was able to locate some through
a different source and had then over-nighted and they arrived today.
Thank you for your patience and consideration though the whole thing!
The List Contribution web site is also back on line for those wishing to make a
donation to the effort:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Best regards,
Matt Dralle
Matronics List Administrator
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | 2011 List of Contributors |
Dear Listers,
The 2011 Matronics Email List and Forum Fund Raiser officially ended a couple of
weeks ago and its time that I publish this year's List of Contributors. Its
the people on this list that directly make the Email Lists and Forums possible.
Their generous contributions keep the servers and Internet connection up and
running!
You can still show your support this year and pick up a great gift at the same
time. The Contribution Web Site is fast, easy, and secure:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Or, by dropping a personal check in the mail to:
Matt Dralle / Matronics
581 Jeannie Way
Livermore CA 94550
I also want to thank Bob, Jon, and Andy for their generous support through the
supply of great gifts this year!! These guys have some great products and I encourage
you to visit their respective web sites:
Bob Nucklolls - AeroElectric - http://www.aeroelectric.com
Jon Croke - HomebuiltHELP - http://www.homebuilthelp.com
Andy Gold - The Builder's Bookstore - http://www.buildersbooks.com
And finally, I'm proud to present The 2011 Fund Raiser List of Contributors:
http://www.matronics.com/loc/2011.html
Thanks again to everyone that made a Contribution this year!!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List and Forum Administrator
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| From: | "Joe" <backstagelive(at)gmail.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Zenith640-List Digest: 0 Msgs - 04/14/12 |
Here are a couple of videos from the Zenith to Oshkosh party in 2011.
http://youtu.be/gjPcUywpZsg
http://youtu.be/itpNw3dR3BM
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| From: | "Joe" <backstagelive(at)gmail.com> |
Anyone need an Airborne 212CW dry air pump? I have it on E-bay but I will
sell it cheaper to a Zenith builder, or trade for something! Fits Lyc,
Continentals, Jabaru's. It's on E-bay as 180883093866. Contact me off list
at 920-237-1450.
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| From: | "Joe" <backstagelive(at)gmail.com> |
| Subject: | Zenith Banquet at Oshkosh |
Zenith Banquet for Oshkosh EAA 2012
The Oshkosh Experimental Aircraft Convention is less than 4 weeks away! It's
time to make plans to attend the Zenith Builder's Banquet for 2012. The
Zenith Banquet for this year's convention will be held at Robbins Supper
Club, 1810 Omro Road, in Oshkosh, on Thursday, July 26th. Wally at Robbins
has been proud to have the opportunity to serve the builders of Zenith
aircraft at Oshkosh for many years.
Once again the menu will be incredible as usual. Slow roasted prime rib,
smoked BBQ ribs, herb baked chicken, Grouper with lemon butter sauce, and
all the extras that make Robbins one of the finest supper clubs in Oshkosh.
The price of the banquet will be $20 per person. you can register at the
Zenith display during the Oshkosh EAA convention. There is some major road
construction in Oshkosh at the present time and the Highway 21 exit for
Robbins may be closed. If you stop by the Zenith exhibit at Oshkosh, you can
pick up a brochure with the directions for Robbins along with banquet
information, and the bus times and route for the Oshkosh transit system
showing the Oshkosh downtown and college RSVP required at the Zenith booth
by Thursday noon. Space is limited and we've filled up the banquet room the
past few years so please be sure to RSVP early.
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| Subject: | CH640 fuel tank floats |
| From: | John Struhar <media(at)spotlightx2.com> |
Trying to source fuel tank floats for my CH640. I don't see a part number
or any other information in any plans, IPLs, or line drawings. Might be
part of the fuel kit, which I don't have, but they don't appear in the line
drawing for the kit.
--
John Struhar
media(at)spotlightx2.com
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| Subject: | Re: CH640 fuel tank floats |
| From: | "Scott Stewart" <scott_stewart(at)agilent.com> |
Hi John,
Are you trying to replace the floats in an existing 640? If so, could you pull
out the floats and post pictures? There are so many different manufacturers
and types, it's hard to tell what you need. Plus, the senders need to be matched
with the gauges you are using.
If your senders match those shown in the http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?t=48666 showing the Zenith fuel kit, the senders appear to be from Datcon sold by Aircraft Spruce under part number 05-16710 (just the float ball is a little different).
I hope this helps.
--------
Scott Stewart
s/n: 0092
Building from plans
Rudder and Stabilator complete. Wings at 85%. Fuselage at 80%.
Construction slowed while I help a friend build his RV-9A.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=377592#377592
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| Subject: | Re: CH640 fuel tank floats |
| From: | "jstruhar" <media(at)spotlightx2.com> |
Thanks, Scott. These photos are exactly what I was looking for. I have browsed
all of the past posts here but somehow missed this one. I wasn't sure that theses
floats came with the fuel system kit since they didn't appear in any drawings
or instructions. I expect the kit comes with instructions for customizing
the float installation, I would like to lay eyes on them if anyone has them. I
intend to install TFE hose or aluminum tubing fuel lines since I expect to burn
varying blends of ethanol, possibly with return lines for fuel injection to
avoid having to install a header tank. This would require a dual-port selector
valve as well, meaning I would have to replace many of the kit components, steering
me away from buying the Zenair kit. The floats are the only components
I need to be able to close up the wings.
Thanks again,
John
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=377624#377624
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| Subject: | Re: CH640 fuel tank floats |
| From: | "pilot4pay" <pilot4profit(at)sbcglobal.net> |
John, have you considered the skysports capacitive probe?
No moving parts.
http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/eppages/skysportfuelsys.php
Craig Smith
--------
Craig Smith
CH640 builder
SN: 0078
"Just think how stupid the average person is,
and then realize that half of them are even stupider!"
--George Carlin
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=377748#377748
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| Subject: | Re: CH640 fuel tank floats |
| From: | "jstruhar" <media(at)spotlightx2.com> |
Craig,
I did consider capacitive probes, but my intentions of burning ethanol blends would
require that they be re-calibrated frequently.
Thanks,
John
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=377753#377753
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| From: | "Joe" <backstagelive(at)gmail.com> |
| Subject: | Aircraft Parking at Oshkosh |
Are you flying into Oshkosh?
EAA Homebuilt Parking is reserving the same parking spaces as we had last
year for us, just north of the Homebuilders Headquarters and north of the
Cannon Camera viewing stand. Again, we are near the Zenith factory display.
Follow the NOTAMS for the signage needed to park your plane. Please print
another sign with the word ZENITH on it. The volunteers parking the planes
will guide you to the reserved Zenith row.
Unfortunately, EAA will not provide a sperate parking spot for Zenigh
Homebuilt Camping. But they said if there is enough interest and if there is
someone who would get there early enough to get a spot in the back, and if
you know how many people would like to camp together, they will make
arrangements to accomidate us. It would be interesting to know how many
people will be sleeping under their wings with their Zeniths this year! If
you plan to, please let me know and we will see if there is enough interest.
Don't forget to confirm your banquet spot right away. Seating lis limited
and you need to confirm as soon as you can. You can get information at the
Zenith display. Jon Croke is donating 3 Zenair Archive CDs ($49 each) for
the dinner. These disks have the entire Zenair Newsletter collection in
.PDF format for easy searching thru all of the past years of the Newsletter.
Thanks Jon!
See you in Oshkosh!
Joe in Oshkosh
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| Subject: | Re: CH640 fuel tank floats |
| From: | "steveadams" <dr_steve_adams(at)yahoo.com> |
The senders I installed were the same as pictured. There is little guidance in
how to install the senders provided in the drawings. I have enclosed photos of
how I bent the float to measure fuel level at the most inboard portion of the
tank. If you have the float straight into the tank, it will read empty when there
are still a fair amount of fuel left due to the dihedral of the wing. It's
a bit of a battle getting it in the tank (don't cut yourself), and I had to
file the opening a bit to be able to get it in and out. You do not use the backing
plate supplied with the sender, just tap the holes directly in the side of
the tank. Also, make sure the set screw is good and tight, and use some locktite
on it so the float won't twist. They have functioned well this way for 7+
years. I also installed aluminum fuel lines instead of the supplied hoses so
they would not have a short service life and have to be changed out every 5-7
years.
Steve
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=378799#378799
Attachments:
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http://forums.matronics.com//files/float2_499.jpg
http://forums.matronics.com//files/float1_116.jpg
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| Subject: | Re: CH640 fuel tank floats |
| From: | "pilot4pay" <pilot4profit(at)sbcglobal.net> |
Steve, did you buy your tanks or build them, and what was the skin thickness? The
plans call for .025, but I have seen .032 on pictures of factory tanks, and
when I asked Zenair, they said they make them out of .025. Don't know why they
would say one thing and do another.
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Craig Smith
CH640 builder
SN: 0078
"Just think how stupid the average person is,
and then realize that half of them are even stupider!"
--George Carlin
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=378813#378813
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| Subject: | Re: CH640 fuel tank floats |
| From: | "jstruhar" <media(at)spotlightx2.com> |
Craig,
Fwiw, the tanks that came with the wings I acquired are extended range factory
tanks. They are 0.025" 6061-T6. I don't see much advantage in making them 0.032".
John
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=378815#378815
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| Subject: | Re: CH640 fuel tank floats |
| From: | "steveadams" <dr_steve_adams(at)yahoo.com> |
My tanks were factory built extended range tanks. To be honest, I never checked
the thickness of the tanks and there were no markings on the sheet that I remember.
I assume they were .025 per the drawings.
Steve
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=378966#378966
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| Subject: | Re: Empenage-Rudder-Wings-CenterWeb Fuselage to sold for |
CH640
| From: | "Christian Tremblay" <cj.tremblay(at)videotron.ca> |
Hi gang,
Seems CH640 Forum not a very busy forum since 2011. I want again to sell my CH640
project for 30% of investment price. Wings, tail wing and rudder completed
with extended tanks, lights, and so on. Look at first post attached to this reply.
Possibility to delivery the project at your home. CD available on request.
By the way, I buyed an Osprey II last month, because now, I lived by the shore
of Ottawa River close to Montreal (Oka) with direct access from my property to
the lake.
See you
Christian Tremblay
cjtremblay(at)bell.net
(514) 663-2670
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Christian Tremblay - Montreal, Qc
A guy who build a CH640 from plan - SN0059
www.zodiac640.com
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=383542#383542
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| Subject: | Re: Empenage-Rudder-Wings-CenterWeb Fuselage to sold for |
CH640
| From: | "Christian Tremblay" <cj.tremblay(at)videotron.ca> |
Watch for my new internet adress and tel number. Folowing are goods one.
Christian Tremblay
cjtremblay(at)bell.net
(514) 663-2670
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Christian Tremblay - Montreal, Qc
A guy who build a CH640 from plan - SN0059
www.zodiac640.com
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=383628#383628
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| Subject: | Re: 640 Builders Check-In |
| From: | "n640bw" <bdubhome(at)gmail.com> |
Thought I would revive this thread to see how many CH640 builders are still out
there and to see if any new builders have joined. I started my CH640 slow build
kit in summer of 2003 - plans s/n 0040. The wings, HT, and rudder are done
and hanging in the garage. The fuselage is on it 's landing gear. Engine mount
is installed. My AeroSport IO-360 will be delivered this month. Working
on the wiring diagram and plan for the systems installation now. Will go with
a dual GRT HXr system. Zenith in Canada is working on a new mold for the 640/801
cowling that will work with either the IO-360 or IO-375 engines. Should
have my cowling by Christmas. Would like to hear how other CH640 projects are
progressing out there. Thanks !
Brian Walker
Las Vegas, NV
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Brian Walker
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http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=385047#385047
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| Subject: | Re: 640 Builders Check-In |
| From: | "Scott Stewart" <scott_stewart(at)agilent.com> |
Hi Brian and All,
I started building my CH640 from plans in Feb. 2008. The only things purchased
from Zenith were the complex fiberglass pieces and canopy, doors, and front windows
- things I could not mold on my own. I took two years off to make an RV-9A
for a friend, but I am now back on the 640. The firewall-back fuselage is
99% complete, the empennage is complete. The wings are 90% complete. I'm working
on the wiring now, and I expect to have everything except the firewall-forward
complete in a month, or so.
I'm shopping around for a mid-time used O-360 now, so if anyone has any good leads,
please let me know.
--------
Scott Stewart
s/n: 0092
Building from plans
Rudder and Stabilator complete. Wings at 90%. Fuselage nearly complete.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=385056#385056
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| Subject: | Re: 640 Builders Check-In |
| From: | "pilot4pay" <pilot4profit(at)sbcglobal.net> |
I'm still working on my 640. Had to move from Michigan to Kentucky and a few other
things going on that made it difficult to spend time on the project.
We are back to progress. Have the tail surfaces done, the ailerons and flaps are
done. The right wing spar is on the bench, have added the extra rib attach uprights
for double fuel tanks, and am getting ready to drill the rib attachments.
Still planning on a Mazda 13b rotary powerplant.
--------
Craig Smith
CH640 builder
SN: 0078
"Just think how stupid the average person is,
and then realize that half of them are even stupider!"
--George Carlin
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=385070#385070
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| Subject: | Re: 640 Builders Check-In |
| From: | "jstruhar" <media(at)spotlightx2.com> |
I bought plans s/n 0022 early this year along with a partially completed wing kit.
My wife and I are closing this week (hopefully) on an adjoining property on
which we intend to build a shop/garage. Meanwhile, the wings are in storage
while I build small parts in my small garage. Like Craig Smith, I am planning
on a Mazda 13b powerplant.
--------
John Struhar
CH640 s/n 0022
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=385080#385080
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | PLEASE READ - Matronics Email List Fund Raiser During |
November!
Dear Listers,
Each November I hold a PBS-like fund raiser to support the continued operation
and upgrade of the Email List and Fourm Services at Matronics. It's through solely
through the Contributions of List members that these Matronics Lists are
possible.
You have probably noticed that there are no banner ads or pop-up windows on any of the Matronics Lists or related web sites such as the Forums site http://forums.matronics.com , Wiki site http://wiki.matronics.com , or other related pages such as the List Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search , List Browse http://www.matronics.com/listbrowse , etc. This is because I believe in a List experience that is completely about the sport we all enjoy - namely Airplanes and not about annoying advertisements.
During the month of November I will be sending out List messages every couple of
days reminding everyone that the Fund Raiser is underway. I ask for your patience
and understanding during the Fund Raiser and throughout these regular messages.
The Fund Raiser is only financial support mechanism I have to pay all
of the bills associated with running these lists. Your personal Contribution
counts!
Once again, this year I've got a terrific line up of free gifts to go along with
the various Contribution levels. Most all of these gifts have been provided
by some of the vary members and vendors that you'll find on Matronics Lists and
have been either donated or provided at substantially discounted rates.
This year, these generous people include:
Bob Nuckolls of the AeroElectric Connection http://www.aeroelectric.com
Andy Gold of the Builder's Bookstore http://www.buildersbooks.com
Jon Croke of HomebuiltHELP http://www.homebuilthelp.com
These are very generous guys and I encourage you to visit their respective web
sites. Each one offers a unique and very useful aviation-related product line.
I would like publicly to thank Bob, Andy, and Jon for their generous support
of the Lists again this year!!
Please make your List Contribution using any one of three secure methods including
using a credit card, PayPal, or by personal check. All three methods afford
you the opportunity to select one of this year's free gifts with a qualifying
Contribution amount!!
To make your Contribution, please visit the secure site:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
I would like to thank everyone in advance for their generous financial AND moral
support over the years!
Thank you for your support!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
RV-4/RV-6/RV-8 Builder/Rebuilder/Pilot
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Please Make A Contribution To Support Your Lists |
Dear Listers,
There is no advertising income to support the Matronics Email Lists and Forums.
The operation is supported 100% by your personal Contributions during the November
Fund
Raiser.
Please make your Contribution today to support the continued operation and upgrade
of these services. You can pick up a really nice gift for making your Contribution
too!
You may use a Credit Card or Paypal at the Matronics Contribution Site here:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
or, you can send a personal check to the following address:
Matronics / Matt Dralle
581 Jeannie Way
Livermore, CA 94550
Thank you in advance for your generous support!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List and Forum Administrator
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Coming Soon - The List of Contributors - Please Make A |
Contribution Today!
Each year at the end of the List Fund Raiser, I post a message acknowledging everyone
that so generously made a Contribution to support the Lists. Its my way
of publicly thanking everyone that took a minute to show their appreciation
for the Lists.
Please take a moment and assure that your name is on that List of Contributors
(LOC)! As a number of members have pointed out over the years, the List seems
at least as valuable a building / entertainment tool as your typical magazine
subscription!
Make sure that your name is on this year's LOC! Show others that you appreciate
the Lists. Making a Contribution to support the Lists is fast and easy using
your Credit card or Paypal on the Secure Web Site:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
or by dropping a personal check in the mail to:
Matt Dralle / Matronics
581 Jeannie Way
Livermore CA 94550
I would like to thank everyone that has so generously made a Contribution thus
far in this year's List Fund Raiser! Remember that its YOUR support that keeps
these Lists going and improving! Don't forget to include a little comment about
how the Lists have helped you!
Best regards,
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | A Message From AeroElectric's Bob Nuckolls... |
Dear Listers,
The well known Bob Nuckolls of the AeroElectric posted a great message Monday on
the AeroElectric-List regarding the Matronics Lists and the importance of supporting
the operation during the Fund Raiser. Please take a minute to read Bob's
commentary below, reposted to the other Matronics Lists with his permission...
Date: Mon, 05 Nov 2012 08:58:41 -0600
From: "Robert L. Nuckolls, III" <nuckolls.bob(at)aeroelectric.com>
Subject: AeroElectric-List: Re: Please Make A Contribution Today!
At 02:14 AM 11/5/2012, Matt Dralle wrote:
>
> Each year at the end of the List Fund Raiser, I post a message
> acknowledging everyone that so generously made a Contribution to
> support the Lists. Its my way of publicly thanking everyone that
> took a minute to show their appreciation for the Lists.
>
I will add my voice to this suggestion. It's
easy to enjoy the benefits of what's available to us
off-the-shelves at the corner mega-marts. It's
seldom that we give pause to learn and understand the
processes and tools that made it possible to reach out
and select from dozens of options.
This, and all civil societies, runs on talent, energy
and mobility. Mobility exploited by thousands of hands,
machines and transportation that figure into the
'infrastructure' that puts the boxes of Wheaties and
Pop Tarts on the shelves.
See "I pencil" http://tinyurl.com/36xkhq
Any break in that chain of time, talent and resources
at least interrupts if not totally halts flow of
that benefit. Matt's room full of byte-thrashers is
like the natural gas pumping station a few miles from
my house. If those pumps stop, who ever is expecting
the furnace to come on at the other end of the pipe
is at risk for reduced service and/or higher costs
for that service.
Matt's yearly endeavor to keep his pumps running is
a trivial burden on the members of the Lists
but of incalculable value to those who participate
on them. No donation is too small.
We go to a fly-in a willingly chuck a few bucks into
the coffee can at the drinks and donuts table, let's
chuck a few bucks into Matt's coffee can too. 50,000
pounds of value doesn't get to the shelves on time
if one 18-wheeler runs out of gas. The T-bytes of
data flow we all enjoy don't get from your keyboard
to the screens of others unless Matt pays the light
bill and strokes the machines to keep them happy.
No, $5 won't get you a free copy of the 'Connection
or a fuel sampler but it will go toward the assurance
that logging onto your favorite List will open
doors that you would be sorely missed should you find
that hitting the return key doesn't produce the
expected response.
$5 from every List customer on Matt's system will
go a very long way to keeping the byte-pumps running.
$More$ will go a long way to upgrading the size
and quality of the machines as the old ones get
long in the tooth. No matter what size of donation
you choose . . . please do it now . . .
Bob . . .
Please make your Contribution today to support the continued operation and upgrade
of these services. You can pick up a really nice gift for making your Contribution
too!
You may use a Credit Card or Paypal at the Matronics Contribution Site here:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
or, you can send a personal check to the following address:
Matronics / Matt Dralle
581 Jeannie Way
Livermore, CA 94550
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Make A List Contribution - It's Your Personal Squelch |
Button...
There is an automatic "squelch button" of sorts for the Fund Raiser messages.
Here's how it works... As soon as a List member makes a Contribution through
the Matronics Fund Raiser web site, their email address is automatically added
to this year's Contributor List and they instantly cease to receive further Fund
Raiser messages for the rest of the month! Its just that simple! :-)
I really do appreciate each and every one of your individual Contributions to support
the Lists. It is your support that enables me to upgrade the hardware
and software that are required to run a List Site such as this one. It also goes
to pay for the commercial-grade Internet connection and to pay the huge electric
bill to keep the computer gear running and the air conditioner powered
on. I run all of the Matronics Email List and Forums sites here locally which
allows me to control and monitor every aspect of the system for the utmost in
reliably and performance. Your personal Contribution matters because, when combined
with other Listers such as yourself, it pays the bills to keep this site
up and running. I accept exactly ZERO advertising dollars for the Matronics
Lists sites. I can't stand the pop-up ads and all other commercials that are
so prevalent on the Internet these days and I particularly don't want to have
it on my Email List sites.
If you appreciate the ad-free, grass-roots, down-home feel of the Matronics Email
Lists, please make a Contribution to keep it that way!!
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
or, you can send a personal check to the following address:
Matronics / Matt Dralle
581 Jeannie Way
Livermore, CA 94550
Thank you!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
[Note that there are certain circumstances where you might still see a Contribution
related message. For example, if someone replies to one of the messages,
when using the List Browse feature, or when accessing List message via the Forum.
The system keys on the given email address and since most of these are anonymous
public access methods, there is no simple way to filter them.]
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Please Support The Lists... |
Dear Listers,
Just a reminder that November is the Matronics Email List Fund Raiser month. There
are some very nice incentive gifts to choose from as well!
Please make your Contribution today at:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
or by dropping a personal check in the mail to:
Matt Dralle / Matronics
581 Jeannie Way
Livermore CA 94550
Thank you!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | What's Your Contribution Used For? |
Dear Listers,
You might have wondered at some pointd, "What's my Contribution used for?" Here
are just a few examples of what your direct List support enables... It provides
for the expensive, commercial-grade Internet connection used on the List.
It pays for the regular system hardware and software upgrades enabling the highest
performance possible for List services such as the Archive Search Engine,
List Browser, and the Web Forums. It pays for the over 22 years of on-line
archive data always available for instant search and access. And, it offsets
the many hours spent writing, developing, and maintaining the custom applications
that power these List Service such as the List Browse, Search Engine, Forums,
and Wiki.
But most importantly, your List Contribution enables a forum where you and your
peers can communicate freely in an environment that is free from moderation,
censorship, advertising, commercialism, SPAM, and computer viruses.
It is YOUR CONTRIBUTION that directly enables all these aspects of Matronics List
services. Please support it today with your List Contribution. Its one of
the best investments you can make in your Sport!
List Contribution Web Site:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
or, you can send a personal check to the following address:
Matronics / Matt Dralle
581 Jeannie Way
Livermore, CA 94550
Thank you for your support!
Matt Dralle
Email List Administrator
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Make Sure You're Listed! List of Contributors Published |
in December!
Dear Listers,
The List of Contributors (LOC) is just around the corner! In December I post a
list of everyone that so generously made a Contribution to support the Lists.
Its my way of publicly thanking everyone that took a minute to show their appreciation
for the Lists.
Won't you take minute and assure that your name is on the upcoming LOC? Tell others
that you appreciate the Lists. Making a Contribution to support the Lists
is fast and easy using your Visa, MasterCard, or Paypal account:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Or, by dropping a personal check in the mail to:
Matronics / Matt Dralle
581 Jeannie Way
Livermore CA 94550
I would like to thank everyone that has so generously made a Contribution thus
far during this year's List Fund Raiser! Remember that its YOUR support that
keeps these Lists running and improving! Don't forget to include a little comment
about how the Lists have helped you!
Thank you!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Who is Matt Dralle & What Are The Lists? |
Dear Listers,
Who is Matt Dralle and what exactly are these Lists anyway? I've been working
in the Information Technology industry for over 28 years, primarily in computer
networking design and implementation and more recently as an embedded software
engineer. I have also done a fair amount of work in web design and development.
I started the Matronics Email Lists way back in 1990 shortly after I started building
my RV-4 with about 30 fellow RV builders from around the world. Since
that time, I have added many other types of aircraft related Lists to the line
up and numerous other List related services such as the Forums, Wiki, Archives
and Search Engine just to name a few.
For flexibility and reliability, I have chosen to run all of my own servers locally.
Other List-related systems include a 1 Gigabit, fully switched network
infrastructure, a commercial-grade Netscreen firewall, a Barracuda spam filter,
a local T1 Internet router, and a bonded dual T1 commercial-grade business Internet
connection with full static addressing.
The computer servers include a dual quad-core Linux server for List web services
with 24GB of memory, a quad -core Linux system dedicated to the email processing
List functions, and another standalone Linux system serving as a remote storage
disk farm for the archives, databases, and for an on-line hard drive-based
backup system with multi-terra byts of online storage. This entire system
is protected by three large, commercial-grade uninterrupted power supply systems
(UPS) that assure the Lists are available even during a local power outage!
Speaking of power, imagine how much electricity it takes to run all of these
systems. On the average, the elctric bill is in the neighborhood of $7000-$8000/yr
and the newly upgraded dual-T1 Internet connection runs roughly $6000/yr.
A while back, I upgraded all of the computer racking infrastructure including new
power feeds and dedicated air conditioning for the room that serves as the
Computer Center for the Matronics Email Lists and followed that upgrade up with
a second rack upgrade to house the MONSTER web system that didn't quite fit
into the first rack! Here's a composite photo of the List Computer Center prior
to the addition of the second rack:
http://www.matronics.com/MattDralle-ListComputerCenter.jpg
As you can see, I take running these Lists very seriously and I am dedicated to
providing an always-on, 24x7x365 experience for each and every Lister.
But building and running this system isn't cheap. As I've mentioned many times
before, I don't use commercial advertisments to support any of these systems.
It is supported 100% through List member Contributions! That means you...
and you... and YOU!
To that end, I hold a List Fund Raiser each November and ask that members make
a Contribution to support the continued operation and upgrade of this ever-expanding
system. Its solely YOUR Contributions that keeps it running!
Please make a Contribution today to support these Lists!
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Or, by dropping a personal check in the mail to:
Matronics / Matt Dralle
581 Jeannie Way
Livermore CA 94550
Thank you!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
Dear Listers,
A quick reminder that November is the annual Matronics List Fund Raiser. The Lists
are 100% member supported and all of the operational costs are covered solely
through your Contributions during this time of the year.
*Your* personal Contribution makes a difference and keeps all of the Matronics
Email Lists and Forums completely ad-free.
Please make your Contribution today to keep these services up and running for another
great year!
Use a credit card or your PayPal account here:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Or, by sending a personal check to:
Matronics / Matt Dralle
581 Jeannie Way
Livermore CA 94550
Thank you in advance!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List and Forum Administrator
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Some Nice Comments... |
Dear Listers,
I've been getting some very nice comments from Listers along with their List Support
Contributions. I've shared a number of them below. Please read them over
and see what your fellow Listers think of the Lists and Forums.
Please make a Contribution today to support the continued upgrade and operation
of these services.
There are lots of sweet gifts available this year, so please browse the nice selection
and pickup something fun with your qualifying Contribution!
You may use a credit card or your PayPal account here:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Or feel free to send a personal check to:
Matronics / Matt Dralle
581 Jeannie Way
Livermore CA 94550
Thank you in advance for your generous support! It is very much appreciated!
Best regards,
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
-------------------- What Listers Are Saying About The Lists --------------------
I have been flying my Pietenpol for a month now and am
enjoying the fruits of ten hard years of work. I seriously
doubt it would ever have been finished but for the help,
encouragement and friendships I've received and made through
the Pietenpol list.
Douwe B
Outstanding service to the flying community.
George A
Matt, I look forward to support each others projects,
Glenn B
Great list!!! Thanks for all your efforts!
Roger C
Thank you for keeping up the lists. Without it i would never
have completed my aircraft.
Stan S
Keep up the good work my friend. I don't think I could ever
finish my Pietenpol Air Camper without the help I get from
this List.
Tom S
Thank you for keeping these list alive.
Lee V
The List is invaluable!!
Svein J
Thanks for continuing to provide the list service!
Earl S
You have a really GREAT service. Thankyou so much I've been on
for nearly 30 years and I still check-in every morning.
John B
I rely fully on the lists which govern my every decision. The
flexibility provides the security I seek.
Fergus K
My RV 7 Finally flies... 7 years of Matronics.com certainly
helped.
Martin H
Great service here, thanks! I am just getting back to a
project I dropped for a few years, great to see your site
and all the folks again!
James C
Thanks for the great site.
Robert U
The Rotax list is good and the AeroElectric list outstanding!
Jay H
Thank you for a great resource!
Jack T
Thanks for your great record of outstanding service to the
homebuilding community!
Larry W
This service is invaluable.
Michael W
You're doing a great job Matt.
Robert D
Thanks for all your work, its a great asset to all.
John F
Thank you for your time & effort Matt!
Ted W
Matt, been a follower since 2005 on the -10 list, now
starting an -8. Keep up the great work!
John M
Still my favorite place to hang out.
William W
I'm not a Piet builder, but this is the most informative and
congenial list I've ever run across. Please forgive my
lurking-I learn a LOT here!
Ken M
Many thanks for keeping this alive, keep pushing!
Adrian C
Thanks! Please keep r going!
Rich Z
Many thanks for your hard work.
Robert C
Thanks for the Lists! I probably need to subscribe to a few
more...
John M
Been a quick 14 years. Think I subscribed to the Kolb
List in 1998, when I got my first computer. Thanks for
keeping everything running smoothly for all these years.
John H
Great resource - thank you.
David M
I don't post very much, but get the postings, a lot of really
practical info.
John N
Great job Matt, thanks for all you do.
Roger M
Thanks for ANOTHER great year, Matt! True grassroots
experimental aviation has been pushed aside in many ways.
But the List represents the evolution of this great
tradition of home-building. One man, the plans, the tools,
and the List - that's all you need to build the dream!
Robert B
This message board is a real help to my project and creating
friendships.
John S
Many thanks for your continuing excellent work.
Mike G
Thank you for your work Matt. Your lists have helped me a
great deal during the construction of my plane.
Hal B
Nice List
Van E
These lists are priceless for builders.
Ronald C
Thanks for keeping me in touch with the Pulsar community.
Otto S
Thanks for keeping up this great warbird sight!!
Yak Ron
Thanks for providing all the lists for so many years.
H H
Thanks for all that you do. Your dedication is much appreciated!
Warren H
Best service on the internet!
Owen B
I have learned so much from the "list".
Nick C
Great Service You Are Providing!
Giffen M
Thanks so much for maintaining these great resources.
Dave S
I no longer fly due to age and health problems, but I still
enjoy the reading from other pilots.
Dallas S
This is a wonderful site.
Robert B
Useful service over the last year - thanks.
Om T
-------------------- What Listers Are Saying About The Lists --------------------
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | "Black Friday" For List Fund Raiser...? |
Dear Listers,
The number of List subscriptions are up by a fair amount this year, but support
during this year's Fund Raiser is substantially behind last year, and there's
only about a week left until the end of the Fund Raiser. I have always preferred
a non-commercial List experience as many, many members have also expressed
that they do as well. However, if the yearly fund raiser cannot generate sufficient
funds to keep the bills paid, other sources of income might be required
including some sort of advertising. Please don't let that happen! Your personal
Contribution of $20 or $30 goes a long ways to keeping this operation a
float.
Please make sure your name is on this year's List of Contributors!
The List Contribution site is secure, quick, and easy:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Or, drop a personal check in the mail to:
Matt Dralle / Matronics
581 Jeannie Way
Livermore CA 94550
Thank you in advance for your support!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List and Forum Administrator
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Just A Few More Days To Make Your List Contribution... |
There is less than a week left in this year's List Fund Raiser and only a few short
days to grab one of the great Contribution Gifts available this year. Support
is still significantly lagging behind last year at this point but hopefully
it will pick up here towards the end. Please remember that it is solely the
Contributions of List members that keeps the Lists up and running as there
is no commercialism or advertising on the Matronics Lists and Forums.
The List Contribution web site is secure, fast, and easy and you can use a credit
card, Paypal, or a personal check:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Or, drop a personal check in the mail to:
Matt Dralle / Matronics
581 Jeannie Way
Livermore CA 94550
I want to thank everyone that has already made a generous contribution to support
the Lists!
Thank you!
Matt Dralle
Matronics EMail List and Forum Administrator
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Contributions Down By 23%... |
Dear Listers,
As of today, Contributions to the Matronics List Fund Raiser are lagging behind
last year at this time by roughly 23%. I have a Fund Raiser each year simply
to cover my operating
costs for the Lists. I *do not* accept any advertising income to support the Lists
and rely solely on the Contributions of members to keep the expenses paid.
I run all of my own servers and they are housed here locally, and the Internet
connection is a commercial-grade, dual T1 connection with public address space.
I also maintain a full
backup system that does nightly backups of all List-related data so that in the
event of a server crash, all of the Lists and the many years of List archive
data could be restored
onto a new server in a matter of hours.
All of this costs a fair amount of money, not to mention a significant amount of
my personal time. I have a Fund Raiser each year to cover these costs and I
ask that members that
feel they receive a benefit from my investments make a modest Contribution each
year to support the continued operation and upgrade of these services.
If you enjoy the Lists, please make a Contribution today. I also offer some incentive
gifts for larger Contribution levels. At the Contribution Web Site, you
can use a credit card,
Paypal, or personal check to show your support for the continuation of these services:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Or, drop a personal check in the mail to:
Matt Dralle / Matronics
581 Jeannie Way
Livermore CA 94550
Thank you for your support!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Make Sure You're Listed! List of Contributors Coming |
in December!
Dear Listers,
There's just a couple more days left in this year's List Fund Raiser and that means
the List of Contributors (LOC) is just around the corner! In December I
post a list of everyone that so generously made a Contribution to support the
Lists. Its my way of publicly thanking everyone that took a minute to show their
appreciation for the Lists.
Won't you take minute and assure that your name is on the upcoming LOC? Tell others
that you appreciate the Lists. Making a Contribution to support the Lists
is fast and easy using your Visa, MasterCard, or Paypal account:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Or, drop a personal check in the mail to:
Matt Dralle / Matronics
581 Jeannie Way
Livermore CA 94550
I would like to thank everyone that has so generously made a Contribution thus
far during this year's List Fund Raiser! Remember that its YOUR support that
keeps these Lists running and improving! Don't forget to include a little comment
about how the Lists have helped you!
Thank you!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Just 3 Days Left - Please Make Your List Contribution |
Today!
There are only three days left until the end of this year's List Fund Raiser.
Please take a minute to show your support as so many others have this year and
make sure YOUR name is on the forthcoming List of Contributors!
Its quick and easy using the secure web site with a credit card or PayPal:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
or by sending your personal check to:
Matronics Lists c/o Matt Dralle
581 Jeannie Way
Livermore, CA 94550
Thank you in advance for your support of these List services!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email and Forum Administrator
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Just Two Days Left! - Still Behind... |
Dear Listers,
There are just two more days left in this years List Fund Raiser. Over the last
couple of weeks I have received some more really nice comments from members
on what the Lists have meant to them. I have included a few more of them below.
Please read over the comments and ponder on your own feelings about the Lists
and the support and camaraderie you have found here.
We are still behind last year in terms of the number of contributions. I really
want to keep providing these services to the homebuilt community, but it take
resources. Since there's no advertising budget or deep pockets to keep the
operation a float, its solely your generosity during the Fund Raiser that keeps
things going. Please make a Contribution today.
If you've been putting off showing your support for the Lists, now is the time
to do it!
Make a contribution with a Credit Card or though PayPal at that Matronics Contribution
web site:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Or, drop a check in the mail:
Matronics / Matt Dralle
581 Jeannie Way
Livermore, CA 94550
Thank you in advance for your support!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
==================== A Few List Member Comments =====================
I have been flying my Pietenpol for a month now and am
enjoying the fruits of ten hard years of work. I seriously
doubt it would ever have been finished but for the help,
encouragement and friendships I've received and made through
the Pietenpol list.
Douwe B
Hey-Long time subscriber, zero-time contributor. Just a
note of thanks. This is first time I have the resources to
contribute. Thanks for carrying a lightweight for years and
a special thanks for your time and effort.
Billy R
My 601 hd is flying with the help with the listers.
Noel G
A very useful facility.
Graeme B
..great site!
Robert C
Great Pietenpol site!
Don Y
Not active but always interested in keeping up. Enjoy
when I can.
Richard R
Dave and Tim from Aircrafters just want to reiterate our
thanks for hosting the lists.
Tim F.
I don't have a lot to give at this time of year, but I
hope my contribution helps none the less. I really enjoy
the message board.
Mark C
Thanks to your continued work on maintaining these lists.
Ralph C
The lists and the various contributors have been a great
help while I was building and also now that I'm flying.
Albert G
Very helpful tools for the homebuilder.
Vaughn T
We appreciate your great help!
Richard H
Many of our customers have expressed to us that you
provide them with an invaluable service - and we agree!
Bill B
I Fly a Quicksilver GT400 but love to read what the Kolb
boys have to say and it was on your list that I found out
about the Yamaha product Ring Free,, now called engine med,
that shit works.. no carbon in my rings or any to speak of
with the use of the Yamaha product with a premix 503 with
over 300 hrs of use.. thanks to your Kolb bulletin board.
Robert B
You are providing a valuable service that helps a lot of
people through information sharing. When I built my
Pietenpol over 40 years ago we were largely on our own,
working without a resource like this list.
Graham H
Thanks for the opportunity to link us all, keep the good work!
Peter B
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | [Please Read] - Last Official Day of List Fund Raiser! |
Dear Listers,
Its November 30th and that always means a couple of things. Its my birthday again;
number 49 actually! But it also means that its that last official day of
the Matronics Email List Fund Raiser! If you been thinking about picking up
one of those really nice incentive gifts now is the time to jump on it!!
If you've been meaning to make a Contribution this month but have been putting
it off for some reason, NOW is the time!
I will be posting the List of Contributors in a few days, so you'll probably want
to be known as a person that supported the Lists!
I want to thank everyone that has so generously made a Contribution this year in
support of our Lists. It is your generosity that keeps this operation running
and I don't ever forget it.
The List Contribution Web Site is fast and easy. Please support our habit by making
your Contribution right now:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Or, by dropping a personal check in the mail to:
Matt Dralle / Matronics
581 Jeannie Way
Livermore CA 94550
Thank you to all in advance!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | 2012 List of Contributors |
Dear Listers,
The 2012 Matronics Email List and Forum Fund Raiser officially ended about a week
ago and its time that I publish this year's List of Contributors. It is the
people on this list that directly make the Email Lists and Forums possible!
Their generous Contributions keep the servers and Internet connection up and
running!
You can still show your support this year and pick up a great gift at the same
time. The Contribution Web Site is fast, easy, and secure:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Or, by dropping a personal check in the mail to:
Matt Dralle / Matronics
581 Jeannie Way
Livermore CA 94550
I also want to thank Bob, Jon, and Andy for their generous support through the
supply of great gifts this year!! These guys have some excellent products and
I encourage you to visit their respective web sites:
Bob Nucklolls - AeroElectric - http://www.aeroelectric.com
Jon Croke - HomebuiltHELP - http://www.homebuilthelp.com
Andy Gold - The Builder's Bookstore - http://www.buildersbooks.com
And finally, I'm proud to present The 2012 Fund Raiser List of Contributors:
http://www.matronics.com/loc/2012.html
Thanks again to everyone that made a Contribution this year!!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List and Forum Administrator
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| From: | Viorel Nichols <viorel.nichols(at)yahoo.com> |
Away on holiday from the 22 December 2012 till 29 January 2013
Wishing you a happy festive season .
Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year
from
Viorel ...
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| From: | "Joe Scheibinger" <backstagelive(at)gmail.com> |
| Subject: | Banquet for 2013 |
Hi Everyone!
Here is an update on the festivities for the "Zeniths to Oshkosh" builders
banquet and aircraft parking for the 2013 Oshkosh EAA Convention.
The Banquet
There has been a big change for this year's Zenith Builders Banquet. We
outgrew our previous locations so we moved it this year to the Elks Lodge in
Oshkosh. We have very comfortable seating for over 250 people, our own
private bar, and award winning food. The banquet will be held on Thursday,
August 1st. The bar will open at 5:30 and dinner starts at 7:30. The price
of the ticket has been reduced from years past to $18 per person. On the
menu this year will be the Elks Lodge specialty, Pineapple Rum Glazed Ham
and Broasted Chicken with all the trimmings. There will be a very special
surprise dessert so make sure you bring your camera, and don't forget the
great door prizes!
Pre-convention Banquet Tickets Available
The banquet will be held at the Elks Lodge, 175 Fernau Ave, Oshkosh, WI. The
Lodge is very easy to find. There will be maps and tickets available at the
Zenith display just like in previous years. If you would like your tickets
sent to you along with the map, there are two ways to receive your tickets.
You can mail a check for $18 per person to Joe Scheibinger, Zenith Banquet,
2809 Scenic Drive, Oshkosh, WI 54904, or you can use PayPal and send the
money to backstagelive(at)gmail.com. Your tickets will be sent in the mail.
Buying advance tickets helps the Zenith staff save time and sell airplanes,
and it also gives us a better way to estimate the number of people
attending.
EAA Zenith Showplane Parking
EAA has confirmed the Zenith showplane parking will be just north of the
Homebuilders center on the flight line in its usual place. Place a sign in
your window indicating "HOMEBUILT PARKING" and then one with "ZENITH". When
they get near the parking area flagmen will help get you to the location
requested. Once your aircraft is parked, EAA's policy is no engine
operations in the parking area and the aircraft will need to be pushed to
the east of the safety line for engine start. So if you are anticipating
demonstrating or flying any of the aircraft during the convention, EAA has a
new commercial demo ride operation parking area along taxiway p1 about 5
rows to the north of the Zenith parking row.
Accommodations
Here is something new for 2013! The Oshkosh Elks Lodge has a very large
parking area. they are offering motor home and trailer parking for $10 per
night for anyone coming to the banquet before coming to the EAA. If you
would like to park your camping vehicle at the Elks for any number of
nights, please call me at 920-237-1450 to make reservations. Some electrical
spots are available for a slightly higher rate on a first come basis.
What's Needed?
We could use some volunteers for the event. We will need 2 volunteers to
come to the banquet early and help make sure everything is working smoothly,
and to work the registration table. If possible, Also, I would like to have
volunteers who are knowledgeable with the Zenith Company to escort invited
EAA dignitaries.
Contact Information
Seeing that I live in Oshkosh, I would be more than happy to help you with
anything you need to make your stay in Oshkosh the best ever. If you need
any more information on the banquet, camping, special foods, etc, please
call me directly at 920-237-1450 or E-mail me at backstagelive(at)gmail.com.
Joe Scheibinger
2809 Scenic Drive
Oshkosh, WI 54904
920-237-1450
backstagelive(at)gmail.com
Facebook: Joe Scheibinger
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| Subject: | Propeller pitch question. |
| From: | "Scott Stewart" <scott_stewart(at)agilent.com> |
Hi Folks,
I'm getting really close to finishing my plans-built CH-640. I'm to the point
I need to buy the propeller, and I want to compare the performance of climb versus
cruise pitches.
>From Zenair, I was supplied the FWF pick list which shows the Sensenich 76EM8-0-54.
On the Sensenich website, their propeller selection guide shows 76EM8-0-61,
63, or 65 are appropriate for the CH-640. This is a really wide range of
pitches: from 54" to 65".
I don't want to buy an under-pitched propeller since I want to do a lot of long
distance cruising. And, of course, an over-pitched propeller will stress the
engine too much. So what does the group think? What pitch are you using, and
how well does it work for you?
Thanks.
--------
Scott Stewart
s/n: 0092
Building from plans
Airframe 99% complete. Engine hung. Working on wiring and engine controls.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=405682#405682
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| From: | "Joe Scheibinger" <backstagelive(at)gmail.com> |
2013 EAA, Another Great Year for Zenith
A huge thank you to everyone that came to the Zenith banquet at EAA this
year! We had 173 builders from all over the world attend. If you would like
to see pictures of the event and pictures of the Zenith display, you can
Facebook me at "Joe Scheibinger", go to my pictures, and click on EAA
Convention 2013.
We will be having the banquet for 2014 in the same location, the Oshkosh
Elks Lodge. They supply great food, a very large and very clean facility
that can handle over 350 people, with ample parking.
Besides the door prizes provided by aviation companies, some of the Zenith
builders purchased gun raffle tickets from the Elks Lodge from a fundraiser
that was going on in the other room. So many builders bought tickets that
the Elks decided to hold the drawing during our banquet. 2 lucky Zenith
builders won guns valued at $400 each!
One of the exciting thing being developed for 2014 will be the construction
of a Zenith airplane in 7 days during the convention. With that in mind, I
would like to get some suggestions from you as to how we can make the
banquet better and raise more awareness for the Zenith company on the EAA
grounds.
I would like to find out how many people would like to bring their planes to
Oshkosh in 2014 and plan a mass arrival. The New Holstein airport features
concrete runways, a large parking area, and is only about 12 miles from
Oshkosh from the East. We would need volunteers with experience in loose
formation flight to help organize and give safe instruction. I can supply
the set up work with the EAA. It would be fun to see 30 or 40 or more
Zeniths on the field like we had 2 years ago, and a mass arrival adds to the
fun and excitement, and it adds great promotional value to the Zenith brand.
If you are interested, or you have suggestions for 2014, please E-mail me at
backstagelive(at)gmail.com. I will share all ideas with Sebastien. 2014 is
going to be a great year again for Zenith at EAA. Thanks again everyone for
your help.
Joe Scheibinger in Oshkosh
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | PLEASE READ - Matronics Email List Fund Raiser During |
November!
Dear Listers,
Each November I hold a PBS-like fund raiser to support the continued operation
and upgrade of the Email List and Fourm Services at Matronics. It's solely through
the Contributions of List members (you) that these Matronics Lists are possible.
You have probably noticed that there are no banner ads or pop-up windows on any of the Matronics Lists or related web sites such as the Forums site http://forums.matronics.com , Wiki site http://wiki.matronics.com , or other related pages such as the List Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search , List Browse http://www.matronics.com/listbrowse , etc. This is because I believe in a List experience that is completely about the sport we all enjoy - namely Airplanes and not about annoying advertisements.
During the month of November I will be sending out List messages every couple of
days reminding everyone that the Fund Raiser is underway. I ask for your patience
and understanding during the Fund Raiser and throughout these regular messages.
The Fund Raiser is only financial support mechanism I have to pay all
of the bills associated with running these lists. YOUR personal Contribution
counts!
This year we have a really HUGE and TERRIFIC line up of free gifts to go along
with the various Contribution levels. In fact, there are over 30 different gifts
to choose from - more than we've ever had before! There's something for everyone,
to be sure. Most all of these gifts have been provided by some of the
vary members and vendors that you'll find on the Matronics Lists and they have
been either donated or provided at substantially discounted rates.
This year, these generous members include:
Andy Gold of the Builder's Bookstore http://www.buildersbooks.com
Bob Nuckolls of the AeroElectric Connection http://www.aeroelectric.com
Corbin Glowacki of My Pilot Store http://www.mypilotstore.com
George Race of Race Consulting http://www.mrrace.com/
Jon Croke of HomebuiltHELP http://www.homebuilthelp.com
These are very generous guys and I encourage you to visit their respective web
sites. Each one offers a unique and excellent aviation-related product line.
I would like publicly to thank Andy, Bob, Corbin, George, and Jon their generous
support of the Lists again this year!!
Please make your List Contribution using any one of three secure methods including
using a credit card, PayPal, or by personal check. All three methods afford
you the opportunity to select one of this year's free gifts with a qualifying
Contribution amount!!
To make your Contribution, please visit the secure web site:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
I would like to thank everyone in advance for their generous financial AND moral
support over the years!
Thank you!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
RV-4/RV-6/RV-8 Builder/Rebuilder/Pilot
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Please Make A Contribution To Support Your Lists |
Dear Listers,
There is no advertising income to support the Matronics Email Lists and Forums.
The operation is supported 100% by your personal Contributions during the November
Fund Raiser.
Please make your Contribution today to support the continued operation and upgrade
of these services. You can pick up a really nice gift for making your Contribution
too!
You may use a Credit Card or Paypal at the Matronics Contribution Site here:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
or, you can send a personal check to the following address:
Matronics / Matt Dralle
581 Jeannie Way
Livermore, CA 94550
Thank you in advance for your generous support!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List and Forum Administrator
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Network Issues At Matronics Last Few Days... |
Dear Listers,
Starting sometime on Friday November 1st, my Internet Service Provider (ISP) began "upgrading" their Domain Name Servers (DNS). DNS servers allow the resolution of computer names such as "www.matronics.com" to real addresses such as 64.81.74.3. This also impacts email delivery as well, since there is another layer of resolution that applies to email names.
Because of this upgrade on the part of my ISP, DNS service started getting unreliable
around Friday sometime, but I didn't notice it until sometime on Saturday.
When I used a tool called "nslookup" to test the resolution of name-to-address,
about 50-75% of the time my ISP's servers would response with an "SERVFAIL"
indicating that they didn't know the answer. I opened a ticket with the
ISP on Saturday, and by Sunday afternoon I had no feedback on the ticket so I
called in to support. "We upgrading the DNS servers, and it should back by Sunday
at 5pm." 5pm came and went with no resolution.
Well, long story short by Tuesday morning things were still not fixed and in fact
much worse. So, I opted to move all my DNS service to a different service
provider. I have a lot of DNS entries, so it took a while to get everything moved
over. It generally takes about 24 hours for a change like that to fully
propagate across the Internet which would be Wednesday morning sometime. I've
noticed that the Matronics web server traffic is picking up again, so many sites
have already propagated the new information.
I really should have just moved the DNS on Saturday when I first noticed the troubles,
but with stuff like this, you just keep believing that it gonna be fixed
any minute now.... And, in fact, that's what my ISP kept telling me...
Its always a giant bummer when stuff like this happens and particularly during
the Fund Raiser. I apologize to anyone that has tried to make a Contribution
in the last few days and had issues or was simply unable to connect. By the time
you read this email, the DNS should be fully propagated, and I ask that you
please try again.
The Contribution web site URL is:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
or, you can send a personal check to the following address:
Matronics / Matt Dralle
581 Jeannie Way
Livermore, CA 94550
Thank you for your kind consideration and patience,
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List and Forum Administrator
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Coming Soon - The List of Contributors - Please Make A |
Contribution Today!
Each year at the end of the List Fund Raiser, I post a message acknowledging everyone
that so generously made a Contribution to support the Lists. Its my way
of publicly thanking everyone that took a minute to show their appreciation
for the Lists.
Please take a moment and assure that your name is on that List of Contributors
(LOC)! As a number of members have pointed out over the years, the List seems
at least as valuable a building / entertainment tool as your typical magazine
subscription!
Assure that your name is on this year's LOC! Show others that you appreciate the
Lists. Making a Contribution to support the Lists is fast and easy using your
Credit card or Paypal on the Secure Web Site:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
or by dropping a personal check in the mail to:
Matt Dralle / Matronics
581 Jeannie Way
Livermore CA 94550
I would like to thank everyone that has so generously made a Contribution thus
far in this year's List Fund Raiser! Remember that its YOUR support that keeps
these Lists going and improving! Don't forget to include a little comment about
how the Lists have helped you!
Best regards,
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Please Make a Contribution to Support Your Lists... |
Dear Listers,
Just a reminder that November is the Annual List Fund Raiser. Please make a Contribution
today to support the continued operation and upgrade of these great
List services!! Pick up a really nice free gift with your qualifying Contribution
too!
The Contribution Site is fast and easy:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
or by dropping a personal check in the mail to:
Matt Dralle / Matronics
581 Jeannie Way
Livermore CA 94551-0347
Thank you!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | A List Contribution - It's Your Personal Squelch Button... |
There is an automatic "squelch button" of sorts for the Fund Raiser messages.
Here's how it works... As soon as a List member makes a Contribution through
the Matronics Fund Raiser web site, their email address is automatically added
to this year's Contributor List and they instantly cease to receive further Fund
Raiser messages for the rest of the month! Its just that simple! :-)
I really do appreciate each and every one of your individual Contributions to support
the Lists. It is your support that enables me to upgrade the hardware
and software that are required to run a List Site such as this one. It also goes
to pay for the commercial-grade Internet connection and to pay the huge electric
bill to keep the computer gear running and the air conditioner powered
on. I run all of the Matronics Email List and Forums sites here locally which
allows me to control and monitor every aspect of the system for the utmost in
reliably and performance. Your personal Contribution matters because, when combined
with other Listers such as yourself, it pays the bills to keep this site
up and running. I accept exactly ZERO advertising dollars for the Matronics
Lists sites. I can't stand the pop-up ads and all other commercials that are
so prevalent on the Internet these days and I particularly don't want to have
it on my Email List sites.
If you appreciate the ad-free, grass-roots, down-home feel of the Matronics Email
Lists, please make a Contribution to keep it that way!!
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
or, you can send a personal check to the following address:
Matronics / Matt Dralle
581 Jeannie Way
Livermore, CA 94550
Thank you!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
[Note that there are certain circumstances where you might still see a Contribution
related message. For example, if someone replies to one of the messages,
when using the List Browse feature, or when accessing List message via the Forum.
The system keys on the given email address and since most of these are anonymous
public access methods, there is no simple way to filter them.]
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Matronics Email Disruption Fixed... |
Dear Listers,
Starting around midnight this morning 11/11/13, the Matronics Barracuda spam filter
that receives all incoming email from the Internet, developed a problem and
started rejecting all incoming
email. I just got off the phone with the Barracuda technical support and we have
If you have posted to any of the Lists during this time, you will need to resend
your email to the respective List.
My apologies for the disruption!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List and Forum Administrator
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Please Make A List Contribution Today; Some Nice Comments... |
Dear Listers,
I've been getting some very nice comments from Listers along with their List Support
Contributions. I've shared a number of them below. Please read them over
and see what your fellow Listers think of the Lists and Forums.
Please make a Contribution today to support the continued upgrade and operation
of these services.
There are lots of really nice gifts available this year, so please browse the selections
and pickup something fun with your qualifying Contribution!
You may use a credit card or your PayPal account here:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Or feel free to send a personal check to:
Matronics / Matt Dralle
581 Jeannie Way
Livermore CA 94550
Thank you in advance for your generous support! It is very much appreciated!
Best regards,
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
-------------------- What Listers Are Saying About The Lists --------------------
I wondered off for a few years & am coming back. I firmly
believe you provide greater value to us than some
magazine subscriptions.
William F
Thanks for helping me connect to people have truly blazed
the trail.
Terry M
Thank you for the time and effort you put into keeping these
lists going. I am on the verge of flying my RV 8 and would
not be here without the help of Matronics.
Michael W
Thank you for providing a valuable service.
Vaughn T
Matt I like your forums.
Jerry D
Thank you for another year of service.
Oscar Z
Been a "member" for years - this has been a fantastic
resource and a great gift to the aviation community.
Reade G
Thanks for the many years of support to RV builders.
Roy H
Best run list on the net.
Roger C
Thanks for your excellent forum!
Fred D
Truly respect your work and service to many readers!!
Fergus K
Thanks for an ad-free list!
William A
Thank you for your GREAT service. I read it every day.
John B
..great service!
Ralph C
Thanks so much for being there. Your contribution to aviation
knowledge is invaluable.
Benjamin B
Thank you for providing the list service. It's great!
William V
I'd never have finished my Glasair without them.
Ronald C
Thank you Matt for the valuable forum, am pleased to
contribute!
Jeffrey J
Fine service.
Byron G
Thanks for your support of our community!
Kenneth B
-------------------- What Listers Are Saying About The Lists --------------------
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Make Sure You're Listed! List of Contributors Published |
in December!
Dear Listers,
The List of Contributors (LOC) is just around the corner! In December I post a
list of everyone that so generously made a Contribution to support the Lists.
Its my way of publicly thanking everyone that took a minute to show their appreciation
for the Lists.
Won't you take minute and assure that your name is on the upcoming LOC? Tell others
that you appreciate the Lists. Making a Contribution to support the Lists
is fast and easy using your Visa, MasterCard, or Paypal account:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Or, drop a personal check in the mail to:
Matt Dralle / Matronics
581 Jeannie Way
Livermore CA 94550
USA
I would like to thank everyone that has so generously made a Contribution thus
far during this year's List Fund Raiser! Remember that its YOUR support that
keeps these Lists running and improving! Don't forget to include a little comment
about how the Lists have helped you!
Thank you!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Fund Raiser Behind By 25% - Please Contribute Today! |
Dear Listers,
The percentage of members making a Contribution to support the Lists this year
is currently behind last year by at this time by roughly 25%. We got off to a
slow start this year with the network DNS issues on the kickoff weekend, so please
take this opportunity to show your support for the Matronics Lists and Forums!
Please remember that it is *solely* your direct Contributions that keep these Lists
and Forums up and running and most importantly - AD FREE! If the members
don't want to support the Lists directly, then I might have to add advertisements
to offset the costs of running the Lists. But I don't want to have to do
that. I really like the non-commercial atmosphere here and I think that a lot
of the members appreciate that too.
Please take a moment to make a Contribution today in support of the continued ad-free
operation of all these Lists:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Or, drop a personal check in the mail to:
Matt Dralle / Matronics
581 Jeannie Way
Livermore CA 94550
USA
I want to send out a word of appreciation to all of the members that have already
made their generous Contribution to support the Lists! Thank you!
Matt Dralle
Email List and Forums Administrator
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Value of the List... |
If you look forward to checking your List email everyday (and a lot of you have
written to say that you do!), then you're probably getting at least $20 or $30
worth of Entertainment from the Lists each year. You'd pay twice that for a
subscription to some magazine or even a dinner out. Isn't the List worth at least
that much to you? Wouldn't it be great if you could pay that amount and get
a well-managed media source free of advertising, SPAM, and viruses? Come to
think of it, you do... :-)
Won't you please take a minute to make your Contribution today and support these
Lists?
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Or, drop a personal check in the mail to:
Matt Dralle / Matronics
581 Jeannie Way
Livermore CA 94550
USA
I want to say THANK YOU to everyone that has made a Contribution thus far during
this year's List Fund Raiser!! These Lists are made possible exclusively through
YOUR generosity!!
Thank you for your support!
Matt Dralle
Email List Admin.
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Please Make A Contribution Today... |
Dear Listers,
A quick reminder that November is the annual List Fund Raiser and the List of Contributors
is quickly approching. The Matronics Lists are 100% member supported
and all of the operational costs are provided for by your Contributions during
this time of the year.
Your personal Contribution makes a big difference and keeps all of the Matronics
Email Lists and Forums completely ad-free.
Please make your Contribution today to keep these services up and running!
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
or by dropping a personal check in the mail to:
Matt Dralle / Matronics
581 Jeannie Way
Livermore CA 94550
Thank you in advance!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List and Forum Administrator
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | [PLEASE READ] Why I Have A Fund Raiser... |
>From the beginning, the Matronics List and Forum experience has been free from
advertising. I have been approached by fair number of vendors wanting to tap
into the large volume of activity across the various lists hosted here, but have
always flatly refused. Everywhere you go on the Internet these days, a user
is pummeled with flashing banners and videos and ads for crap that they don't
want. Yahoo, Google and that elk are not "free". The user must constantly
endure their barrage of commercialism thrust into their face at an ever increasing
rate. Enough is enough, and the Lists at Matronics choose not to succumb
to that.
That being said, running a service of this size is not "free". It costs a lot
of money to maintain the hardware, pay for the electricity, air conditioning,
maintenance contracts, etc, etc. etc. I choose to hold a PBS-like fund raiser
each year during the month of November where I simply send out a short email
every other day asking the members to make a small contribution to support the
operation. That being said, that contribution is completely voluntary and non-compulsory.
Many members choose not to contribute and that's fine.
However, a very modest percentage of the members do choose to make a contribution
and it is that financial support that keeps the Lists running. And that's
it. To my way of thinking, it is a much more pleasant way of maintaining the
Lists and Forums. The other 11 months of the year, you don't see a single advertisement
or request for support. That's refreshing and that is a List and Forum
that I want to belong to. I think other people feel the same way.
Won't you please take a minute to make your Contribution today and support these
Lists?
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Or, drop a personal check in the mail to:
Matt Dralle / Matronics
581 Jeannie Way
Livermore CA 94550
USA
Thank you for your support!
Matt Dralle
Email List Admin.
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Of Pencils & Airplanes [Repost From AeroElectric-List]... |
[Dear Listers, last week, Bob Nuckolls of the AeroElectric fame, posted a very
nice message discussing the Lists and Forums at Matronics. It is a very insightful
piece and I asked Bob if I could forward it to the rest of the Lists for
the other members to enjoy and contemplate as well. He gladly agreed, and so
below I have included the text from that message. Enjoy. -Matt Dralle, Matronics
Email List and Forum Administrator]
"As most of you know, Matt's ISP was fiddling with some crucial
details for the exchange of data on the 'net a few weeks ago.
The Lists, Matt's business site, and AeroElectric.com got really
flakey. . . I was 'unhooked' from the List and all of three of
my e-mail services for several days. Out of business and out
of touch.
After two days, I was beginning to worry. I had no idea as
to root cause nor was there a time table for resolution . . .
I began to mull over plan-B options. Of course, plan-B
would have entailed seeking a new home for aeroelectric.com and
ancillary services. NOT a quick, inexpensive or happy thing to
contemplate.
The time talents and resources that go into fabrication and
maintenance of some of the 'simplest' features of our lives often
go unnoticed . . . not because they're unappreciated . . . but simply
because we're unaware of their significance.
I will invite you all to read an essay by one Leonard Read written
in 1958 titled "I pencil". See:
http://tinyurl.com/me3q3hj
It's a fascinating and well crafted peek into a society of
unacquainted, self-interested individuals who exploited
uncountable windows of opportunity for what has
been called "spontaneous order" in the manufacture and sales
of the simple wood pencil. The point of citing Mr. Read's
essay is to examine two features of the human experience that
contribute to the success of this List and our various interests
in airplanes.
The first point I'd like to make is that we cannot know
the millions of individuals who contributed to the materials
and infrastructure that make this List possible. We sit at the
top of a pyramid of work-product derived from the time,
talents and resources of millions of people who we'll never
know.
Another feature I'd like to emphasis is our ignorance
of the criticality for any single component for a host
of materials and components for the manufacture and
sales of a simple pencil or an affordable airplane. Suppose
any one of the materials or processes described in Read's
essay were simply unavailable. How would that impact
the price of a pencil? Would the pencil even continue to
exist at it's new price? The really big question is, "How
might some seemingly small loss ripple throughout the
economy of our existence?"
The time, talent and resources that support infrastructure
for this List, my website, Matt's website, and our e-mails
cannot be accurately known. That infrastructure stands
on an exceedingly complex array of activities that arose
from the ingenuity and spontaneous organization of free-
market enterprises. But from our perch at the top of
this pyramid we need only look down a few layers and see that
this resource upon which we depend is vulnerable. There are
risks we all assume . . . Matt could get t-boned in an
intersection tomorrow. Lightning could strike the pole behind
his facility and do catastrophic damage to the hardware.
Yours truly could take a deer through the windshield on
his way to Wichita some morning.
Other risks are less catastrophic. They include things
like amateurish behaviors by maintainers of the Internet
highway's potholes. Perhaps some material critical to
the manufacture of terabyte hard drives dries up. Or
maybe the cost of keeping the lights on and the bytes
herded become more than Matt can justify given his personal
needs for existence.
Several times a year I get an opportunity to
plant new seeds of thought in the minds of fellow citizens.
One of my favorites is to be standing in a long line
at Panera's waiting to purchase a bagel and coffee and
hear somebody in line complaining about the
wait. I suggest to them that to wait in line for a
much desired product is a GOOD thing. Not having
to wait is a BAD thing if there is not enough business
to encourage them to be open tomorrow.
It goes without saying that few, if any of us, possess the
talents, resources or motivation to step up and do what
Matt does. At last count, there were about 1600 individuals
who subscribe to this List [Aeroelectric-List]. . .
certainly many more make up the population of subscribers
to all of the Lists on Matronics.
A few years back, Matt was besieged by legal trials
and tribulations over the naming of his products . . .
seems somebody claimed ownership of the words 'scan'
and/or 'scanner' . . . We here on the AeroElectric-List
perceived a risk to Matt's operations and came up with
several thousands of dollars to contribute to his defense
fund. We need make no greater 'investment' in Matt's
operations now than it takes to stand in a line for
a Quarter-Pounder Combo . . . or a fist full of pencils.
You and I can have no more positive influence over the
manufacture of pencils and hard drives than to continue
to purchase such things and encourage those with the
time, talent and resources to continue doing what they
do best.
Let's contribute to the comfortable maintenance of this
service which is probably more valuable than we know.
Just a little bit from thousands of us on the Matronics
Lists can make a big difference.
Bob . . ."
Please take a minute to make your Contribution today:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Or, drop a personal check in the mail to:
Matt Dralle / Matronics
581 Jeannie Way
Livermore CA 94550
USA
Thank you for your support!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List and Forum Administrator
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Make Sure You're Listed! List of Contributors Coming |
Soon!
Dear Listers,
There's just a few more days left in this year's List Fund Raiser and that means
the List of Contributors (LOC) is just around the corner! In December I post
a list of everyone that so generously made a Contribution to support the Lists.
Its my way of publicly thanking everyone that took a minute to show their
appreciation for the Lists.
Won't you take minute and assure that your name is on the upcoming LOC? Tell others
that you appreciate the Lists. Making a Contribution to support the Lists
is fast and easy using your Visa, MasterCard, or Paypal account:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Or, drop a personal check in the mail to:
Matt Dralle / Matronics
581 Jeannie Way
Livermore CA 94550
I would like to thank everyone that has so generously made a Contribution thus
far during this year's List Fund Raiser! Remember that its YOUR support that
keeps these Lists running and improving! Don't forget to include a little comment
about how the Lists have helped you!
Thank you!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Just Two Days Left... |
Dear Listers,
There are just a couple days left for this year's List Fund Raiser. If you've
been putting off making a Contribution until the last minute, well, this is it!
The last minute, that is... :-) There are some GREAT new gift selections to
choose from this year. I personally want at least four of them! There's probably
something you can't live without too! And, best of all it supports your
Lists!
Please remember that there isn't any sort of commercial advertising on the Lists
and the *only* means of keeping these Lists running is through your Contributions
during this Fund Raiser. Let's make this a "Black Friday" for the Lists!
Please make a Contribution today!
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Or, drop a personal check in the mail to:
Matt Dralle / Matronics
581 Jeannie Way
Livermore CA 94550
Thank you!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | [Please Read] - Last Official Day of List Fund Raiser! |
Dear Listers,
It's November 30th and that always means a couple of things. Its my birthday again;
the big 50, in fact! But it also means that it's that last official day
of the Matronics Email List Fund Raiser! If you been thinking about picking
up one of those really nice incentive gifts now is the time to jump on it!!
If you've been meaning to make a Contribution this month but have been putting
it off for some reason, NOW is the time!
I will be posting the List of Contributors in a few days, so you'll probably want
to be known as a person that supported the Lists!
I want to thank everyone that has so generously made a Contribution this year in
support of our Lists. It is your generosity that keeps this operation running
and I don't ever forget it.
The List Contribution Web Site is fast and easy. Please support our habit by making
your Contribution right now:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Or, by dropping a personal check in the mail to:
Matt Dralle / Matronics
581 Jeannie Way
Livermore CA 94550
Thank you to all in advance!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Zodiac CH640 For Sale |
| From: | "steveadams" <dr_steve_adams(at)yahoo.com> |
I am ready to sell my completed and flying 2005 CH640. It has about 800 hours on
it with a standard 6 pack, gns430, sl30, gtx327, dual VOR/gs indicators, superior
xp-0-360 engine. It is a great flying aircraft that has been trouble free.
I just don't get the time to fly as much as I'd like any more, and it is such
a waste to have this great airplane sitting in a hangar. I am asking $85k which
is less than parts to build it. It was built from a quickbuild kit with no
modifications to the design. Contact me with any questions. Thanks.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=414783#414783
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | 2013 List of Contributors |
Dear Listers,
The 2013 Matronics Email List and Forum Fund Raiser officially ended a couple of
weeks ago and it's time that I published this year's List of Contributors.
It is the people on this list that directly make these Email Lists and Forums
possible! Their generous Contributions keep the servers and Internet connection
up and running!
You can still show your support this year and pick up a great gift at the same
time. The Contribution Web Site is fast, easy, and secure:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Or, by dropping a personal check in the mail to:
Matt Dralle / Matronics
581 Jeannie Way
Livermore CA 94550
I also want to thank Andy, Bob, Corbin, George, and Jon for their generous support
through the supply of many great gifts this year!! These guys have some excellent
products and I encourage you to visit their respective web sites:
Andy Gold - The Builder's Bookstore - http://www.buildersbooks.com
Bob Nucklolls - AeroElectric - http://www.aeroelectric.com
Corbin Glowacki - My Pilot Store - http://www.mypilotstore.com
George Race - Race Consulting - http://www.mrrace.com
Jon Croke - HomebuiltHELP - http://www.homebuilthelp.com
And finally, I'm proud to present The 2013 Fund Raiser List of Contributors:
http://www.matronics.com/loc/2013.html
Thank you again to everyone that made a Contribution this year!!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List & Forum Administrator
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Matronics Web Server Down for Repair (PLEASE READ)... |
Dear Listers,
Late Tuesday night 4/15/2014, the Matronics Web server crashed due to a multi-disk
RAID 5 failure. The system has complete data backups, but I will likely have
to order some replacement disks to rebuild the system. I'll work as quickly
as I can to restore the Matronics Web Server.
The Matronics EMAIL server is NOT impacted by this issue. All normal Matronics
Email List mail will flow as usual. However, the Matronics Web Forums interface
will not be available.
Also impacted by the Web Server outage will be the AeroElectric web site.
I will try to post daily updates on the Web Server restoration status.
I apologize for the inconvenience... :-(
Best regards,
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List and Forum Admin.
Matt G Dralle | Matronics | 581 Jeannie Way | Livermore | CA | 94550
925-606-1001 V | 925-606-6281 F | dralle(at)matronics.com Email
http://www.matronics.com/ WWW | Featuring Products For Aircraft
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Matronics Web Server Repaired and ONLINE! (PLEASE READ) |
Dear Listers,
The new hard drives for the Matronics web server arrived today, Thursday 4/17/2014
and the RAID5 disk array rebuild went very smoothly.
Web server is back online and fully functional! No data or files were lost.
Additionally, those that frequent the AeroElectric web site will find that it has
been restored as well.
Best regards,
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List and Forum Admin.
Matt G Dralle | Matronics | 581 Jeannie Way | Livermore | CA | 94550
925-606-1001 V | 925-606-6281 F | dralle(at)matronics.com Email
http://www.matronics.com/ WWW | Featuring Products For Aircraft
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Joe " <backstagelive(at)gmail.com> |
Hi Everyone!
Here is an update on the festivities for the "Zeniths to Oshkosh" builders
banquet and aircraft parking for the 2014 Oshkosh EAA Convention.
The Banquet
The banquet will once again be held at the Elks Lodge in Oshkosh. This
beautiful facility served us well last year and is expandable for our
growing Zenith family. We have very comfortable seating for over 250 people,
our own private bar, and award winning food. The banquet will be held on
Friday, August 1st, 2014. The bar will open at 5:30 and dinner starts at
7:30. Tickets are available for $20 per person. On the menu this year will
be the Elks Lodge specialty, Pineapple Rum Glazed Ham and Broasted Chicken,
buttered parsley potatoes, green beans, and all the trimmings! Once again
this year there will be a very special surprise dessert so make sure you
bring your camera, and don't forget all the great aviation door prizes!
Pre-convention Banquet Tickets Available
The banquet will be held at the Elks Lodge, 175 Fernau Ave, Oshkosh, WI. The
Lodge is very easy to find. There will be maps and tickets available at the
Zenith display just like in previous years. If you would like your tickets
sent to you along with the map, there are two ways to receive your tickets.
You can mail a check for $20 per person to Joe Scheibinger, Zenith Banquet,
2809 Scenic Drive, Oshkosh, WI 54904, or you can use PayPal and send the
money to backstagelive(at)gmail.com. Your tickets will be sent in the mail 2
weeks before the convention. Buying advance tickets helps the Zenith staff
save time and sell airplanes, and it also gives us a better way to estimate
the number of people attending.
EAA Zenith Showplane Parking
Zenith showplane parking will be just north of the Homebuilders center on
the flight line in its usual place. Please place a sign in your window
indicating "HOMEBUILT PARKING - ZENITH." When they get near the parking area
flagmen will help get you to the location requested. Once your aircraft is
parked, EAA's policy is no engine operations in the parking area and the
aircraft will need to be pushed to the east of the safety line for engine
start. If you are anticipating demonstrating or flying any of the aircraft
during the convention, park your aircraft as close to the flightline as you
can. EAA will not be using the commercial demo ride operation parking area
as they did last year.
Accommodations
The Oshkosh Elks Lodge has a very large parking area. they are offering
motor home and trailer parking for $20 per night for anyone coming to the
banquet before coming to the EAA, or for people leaving the convention on
Friday. If you would like to park your camping vehicle at the Elks for any
number of nights, please call me at 920-237-1450 or E-mail me at
backstagelive(at)gmail.com to make reservations. Some electrical spots are
available on a first come first served basis.
What's Needed?
We could use some volunteers for the event. We will need 3 volunteers to
come to the banquet early and help make sure everything is working smoothly,
and to work the registration table. If possible, Also, I would like to have
volunteers who are knowledgeable with the Zenith Company to escort invited
EAA dignitaries.
Contact Information
Seeing that I live in Oshkosh, I would be more than happy to help you with
anything you need to make your stay in Oshkosh the best ever. If you need
any more information on the banquet, camping, special foods, lodging, etc,
please call me directly at 920-237-1450 or E-mail me at
backstagelive(at)gmail.com.
Joe Scheibinger
2809 Scenic Drive
Oshkosh, WI 54904
920-237-1450
backstagelive(at)gmail.com
Facebook: Joe Scheibinger
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Joe " <backstagelive(at)gmail.com> |
| Subject: | Zenith640-List Digest: 0 Msgs - 07/09/14 |
UPDATED ZENITH BANQUET INFORMATION
Hi Everyone!
With the banquet and EAA just weeks away, here is an update on the
festivities for the "Zeniths to Oshkosh" builders banquet and aircraft
parking for the 2014 Oshkosh EAA Convention.
The Banquet
The banquet will once again be held at the Elks Lodge in Oshkosh. This
beautiful facility served us well last year and is expandable for our
growing Zenith family. We have very comfortable seating for over 250 people,
our own private bar, and award winning food. The banquet will be held on
Friday, August 1st, 2014. The bar will open at 5:30 and dinner starts at
7:30. Tickets are available for $20 per person. On the menu this year will
be the Elks Lodge specialty, Pineapple Rum Glazed Ham and Broasted Chicken,
buttered parsley potatoes, green beans, and all the trimmings! The major
door prize this year will be a beautiful headset for your airplane
complements of David Clark Inc. Many other donors are sponsoring the event
this year including Wicks Aircraft, Aircraft Spruce, EAA Air Museum, and
Sporty's Pilot Shop. Once again this year there will be a very special
surprise dessert so make sure you bring your camera!
Pre-convention Banquet Tickets Available
The banquet will be held at the Elks Lodge, 175 Fernau Ave, Oshkosh, WI. The
Lodge is very easy to find. There will be maps and tickets available at the
Zenith display just like in previous years. If you would like your tickets
sent to you along with the map, there are two ways to receive your tickets.
You can mail a check for $20 per person to Joe Scheibinger, Zenith Banquet,
2809 Scenic Drive, Oshkosh, WI 54904, or you can use PayPal and send the
money to backstagelive(at)gmail.com. Your tickets will be sent in the mail 2
weeks before the convention. Buying advance tickets helps the Zenith staff
save time and sell airplanes, and it also gives us a better way to estimate
the number of people attending.
EAA Zenith Showplane Parking
Zenith showplane parking will be just north of the Homebuilders center on
the flight line in its usual place. Please place a sign in your window
indicating "HOMEBUILT PARKING - ZENITH." When they get near the parking area
flagmen will help get you to the location requested. Once your aircraft is
parked, EAA's policy is no engine operations in the parking area and the
aircraft will need to be pushed to the east of the safety line for engine
start. If you are anticipating demonstrating or flying any of the aircraft
during the convention, park your aircraft as close to the flightline as you
can. EAA will not be using the commercial demo ride operation parking area
as they did last year.
Accommodations
The Oshkosh Elks Lodge has a very large parking area. they are offering
motor home and trailer parking for $20 per night for anyone coming to the
banquet before coming to the EAA, or for people leaving the convention on
Friday. If you would like to park your camping vehicle at the Elks for any
number of nights, please call me at 920-237-1450 or E-mail me at
backstagelive(at)gmail.com to make reservations. Some electrical spots are
available on a first come first served basis.
What's Needed?
We could use some volunteers for the event. We will need 3 volunteers to
come to the banquet early and help make sure everything is working smoothly,
and to work the registration table. If possible, Also, I would like to have
volunteers who are knowledgeable with the Zenith Company to escort invited
EAA dignitaries.
Contact Information
Seeing that I live in Oshkosh, I would be more than happy to help you with
anything you need to make your stay in Oshkosh the best ever. If you need
any more information on the banquet, camping, special foods, lodging, etc,
please call me directly at 920-237-1450 or E-mail me at
backstagelive(at)gmail.com.
Joe Scheibinger
2809 Scenic Drive
Oshkosh, WI 54904
920-237-1450
backstagelive(at)gmail.com
Facebook: Joe Scheibinger
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| From: | "Joe " <backstagelive(at)gmail.com> |
Zenith Banquet for 2014
One week to go! With the huge pre-sale response for the Zenith Banquet it
looks like this will be a blockbuster! Just a quick recap. The Zenith
Builders Banquet will be held on Friday, August 1st at the Oshkosh Elks
Lodge. More information can be found on the attached brochure. If the
brochure did not attach to this post, you can request one by sending an
e-mail to backstagelive(at)gmail.com and I can E-mail you one.
It's easy to get tickets. You can still purchase your tickets by PayPal by
sending $20 per person to backstagelive(at)gmail.com. Your tickets will be put
on the will-call table at the Oshkosh Elks and you can pick them up there!
You can purchase tickets all the way up to noon on Friday August 1st via
PayPal, so you can buy your tickets on your smart phone during the
convention! All PayPal purchases will be confirmed and a brochure will be
E-mailed to you.
Tickets will also be available at the Zenith booth. It is much better on us
if you pre-buy your tickets so we know how many are coming! We will be
selling tickets at the door also.
Lots of door prizes this year with the Grand Prize from David Clark, a
beautiful headset worth $350. And the icing on the cake: Chris Heinz will be
here this year and at the banquet!
If you need more information please call me or E-mail. Have a safe trip to
Oshkosh and we will see you at the banquet!
Joe Scheibinger
920-237-1450
backstagelive(at)gmail.com
2809 Scenic Drive
Oshkosh, WI 54904
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | PLEASE READ - Matronics Email List Fund Raiser During |
November!
Dear Listers,
Each November I hold a PBS-like fund raiser to support the continued operation
and upgrade of the Email List and Fourm Services at Matronics. It's solely through
the Contributions of List members (you) that these Matronics Lists are possible.
You have probably noticed that there are no banner ads or pop-up windows on any of the Matronics Lists or related web sites such as the Forums site http://forums.matronics.com , Wiki site http://wiki.matronics.com , or other related pages such as the List Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search , List Browse http://www.matronics.com/listbrowse , etc. This is because I believe in a List experience that is completely about the sport we all enjoy - namely Airplanes and not about annoying advertisements.
During the month of November I will be sending out List messages every couple of
days reminding everyone that the Fund Raiser is underway. I ask for your patience
and understanding during the Fund Raiser and throughout these regular messages.
The Fund Raiser is only financial support mechanism I have to pay all
of the bills associated with running these lists. YOUR personal Contribution
counts!
This year we have a really HUGE and TERRIFIC line up of free gifts to go along
with the various Contribution levels. In fact, there are over 30 different gifts
to choose from - more than we've ever had before! There's something for everyone,
to be sure. Most all of these gifts have been provided by some of the
vary members and vendors that you'll find on the Matronics Lists and they have
been either donated or provided at substantially discounted rates.
This year, these generous members include:
Andy Gold of the Builder's Bookstore http://www.buildersbooks.com
Bob Nuckolls of the AeroElectric Connection http://www.aeroelectric.com
Corbin Glowacki of My Pilot Store http://www.mypilotstore.com
George Race of Race Consulting http://www.mrrace.com/
Jon Croke of HomebuiltHELP http://www.homebuilthelp.com
These are very generous guys and I encourage you to visit their respective web
sites. Each one offers a unique and excellent aviation-related product line.
I would like publicly to thank Andy, Bob, Corbin, George, and Jon their generous
support of the Lists again this year!!
Please make your List Contribution using any one of three secure methods including
using a credit card, PayPal, or by personal check. All three methods afford
you the opportunity to select one of this year's free gifts with a qualifying
Contribution amount!!
To make your Contribution, please visit the secure web site:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
I would like to thank everyone in advance for their generous financial AND moral
support over the years!
Thank you!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
RV-4/RV-6/RV-8 Builder/Rebuilder/Pilot
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Please Make A Contribution To Support Your Lists |
Dear Listers,
There is no advertising income to support the Matronics Email Lists and Forums.
The operation is supported 100% by your personal Contributions during the November
Fund
Raiser.
Please make your Contribution today to support the continued operation and upgrade
of these services. You can pick up a really nice gift for making your Contribution
too!
You may use a Credit Card or Paypal at the Matronics Contribution Site here:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
or, you can send a personal check to the following address:
Matronics / Matt Dralle
581 Jeannie Way
Livermore, CA 94550
Thank you in advance for your generous support!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List and Forum Administrator
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Coming Soon - The List of Contributors - Please Make A |
Contribution Today!
Each year at the end of the List Fund Raiser, I post a message acknowledging everyone
that so generously made a Contribution to support the Lists. Its my way
of publicly thanking everyone that took a minute to show their appreciation
for the Lists.
Please take a moment and assure that your name is on that List of Contributors
(LOC)! As a number of members have pointed out over the years, the List seems
at least as valuable a building / entertainment tool as your typical magazine
subscription!
Assure that your name is on this year's LOC! Show others that you appreciate the
Lists. Making a Contribution to support the Lists is fast and easy using your
Credit card or Paypal on the Secure Web Site:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
or by dropping a personal check in the mail to:
Matt Dralle / Matronics
581 Jeannie Way
Livermore CA 94550
I would like to thank everyone that has so generously made a Contribution thus
far in this year's List Fund Raiser! Remember that its YOUR support that keeps
these Lists going and improving! Don't forget to include a little comment about
how the Lists have helped you!
Best regards,
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Please Make a Contribution to Support Your Lists... |
Dear Listers,
Just a reminder that November is the Annual List Fund Raiser. Please make a Contribution
today to support the continued operation and upgrade of these great
List services!! Pick up a really nice free gift with your qualifying Contribution
too!
The Contribution Site is fast and easy:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
or by dropping a personal check in the mail to:
Matt Dralle / Matronics
581 Jeannie Way
Livermore CA 94551-0347
Thank you!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | A List Contribution - It's Your Personal Squelch Button... |
There is an automatic "squelch button" of sorts for the Fund Raiser messages.
Here's how it works... As soon as a List member makes a Contribution through
the Matronics Fund Raiser web site, their email address is automatically added
to this year's Contributor List and they instantly cease to receive further Fund
Raiser messages for the rest of the month! Its just that simple! :-)
I really do appreciate each and every one of your individual Contributions to support
the Lists. It is your support that enables me to upgrade the hardware
and software that are required to run a List Site such as this one. It also goes
to pay for the commercial-grade Internet connection and to pay the huge electric
bill to keep the computer gear running and the air conditioner powered
on. I run all of the Matronics Email List and Forums sites here locally which
allows me to control and monitor every aspect of the system for the utmost in
reliably and performance. Your personal Contribution matters because, when combined
with other Listers such as yourself, it pays the bills to keep this site
up and running. I accept exactly ZERO advertising dollars for the Matronics
Lists sites. I can't stand the pop-up ads and all other commercials that are
so prevalent on the Internet these days and I particularly don't want to have
it on my Email List sites.
If you appreciate the ad-free, grass-roots, down-home feel of the Matronics Email
Lists, please make a Contribution to keep it that way!!
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
or, you can send a personal check to the following address:
Matronics / Matt Dralle
581 Jeannie Way
Livermore, CA 94550
Thank you!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
[Note that there are certain circumstances where you might still see a Contribution
related message. For example, if someone replies to one of the messages,
when using the List Browse feature, or when accessing List message via the Forum.
The system keys on the given email address and since most of these are anonymous
public access methods, there is no simple way to filter them.]
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Make Sure You're Listed! List of Contributors Published |
in December!
Dear Listers,
The List of Contributors (LOC) is just around the corner! In December I post a
list of everyone that so generously made a Contribution to support the Lists.
Its my way of publicly thanking everyone that took a minute to show their appreciation
for the Lists.
Won't you take minute and assure that your name is on the upcoming LOC? Tell others
that you appreciate the Lists. Making a Contribution to support the Lists
is fast and easy using your Visa, MasterCard, or Paypal account:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Or, drop a personal check in the mail to:
Matt Dralle / Matronics
581 Jeannie Way
Livermore CA 94550
USA
I would like to thank everyone that has so generously made a Contribution thus
far during this year's List Fund Raiser! Remember that its YOUR support that
keeps these Lists running and improving! Don't forget to include a little comment
about how the Lists have helped you!
Thank you!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Please Make a Contribution to Support Your Lists... |
Dear Listers,
Just a reminder that November is the Annual List Fund Raiser. Please make a Contribution
today to support the continued operation and upgrade of these great
List services!! Pick up a really nice free gift with your qualifying Contribution
too!
The Contribution Site is fast and easy:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
or by dropping a personal check in the mail to:
Matt Dralle / Matronics
581 Jeannie Way
Livermore CA 94550
Thank you!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | What's Your Contribution Used For? |
Dear Listers,
You might have wondered at some point, "What's my Contribution used for?" Here
are just a few examples of what your direct List support enables... It provides
for the expensive, commercial-grade Internet connection used on the List.
It pays for the regular system hardware and software upgrades enabling the highest
performance possible for List services such as the Archive Search Engine,
List Browser, and the Web Forums. It pays for the over 23 years of on-line
archive data always available for instant search and access. And, it offsets
the many hours spent writing, developing, and maintaining the custom applications
that power these List Service such as the List Browse, Search Engine, Forums,
and Wiki.
But most importantly, your List Contribution enables a forum where you and your
peers can communicate freely in an environment that is free from moderation,
censorship, advertising, commercialism, SPAM, and computer viruses.
It is YOUR CONTRIBUTION that directly enables all these aspects of Matronics List
services. Please support it today with your List Contribution. Its one of
the best investments you can make in your Sport!
List Contribution Web Site:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
or, you can send a personal check to the following address:
Matronics / Matt Dralle
581 Jeannie Way
Livermore, CA 94550
Thank you for your support!
Matt Dralle
Email List Administrator
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Value of the List... |
If you look forward to checking your List email everyday (and a lot of you have
written to say that you do!), then you're probably getting at least $20 or $30
worth of Entertainment from the Lists each year. You'd pay twice that for a
subscription to some magazine or even a dinner out. Isn't the List worth at least
that much to you? Wouldn't it be great if you could pay that amount and get
a well-managed media source free of advertising, SPAM, and viruses? Come to
think of it, you do... :-)
Won't you please take a minute to make your Contribution today and support these
Lists?
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Or, drop a personal check in the mail to:
Matt Dralle / Matronics
581 Jeannie Way
Livermore CA 94550
USA
I want to say THANK YOU to everyone that has made a Contribution thus far during
this year's List Fund Raiser!! These Lists are made possible exclusively through
YOUR generosity!!
Thank you for your support!
Matt Dralle
Email List Admin.
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | [PLEASE READ] Why I Have A Fund Raiser... |
Since the beginning, the Matronics List and Forum experience has been free from
advertising. I have been approached by fair number of vendors wanting to tap
into the large volume of activity across the various lists hosted here, but have
always flatly refused. Everywhere you go on the Internet these days, a user
is pummeled with flashing banners and videos and ads for crap that they don't
want. Yahoo, Google and that elk are not "free". The user must constantly
endure their barrage of commercialism thrust into their face at an ever increasing
rate. Enough is enough, and the Lists at Matronics choose not to succumb
to that.
That being said, running a service of this size is not "free". It costs a lot
of money to maintain the hardware, pay for the electricity, air conditioning,
maintenance contracts, etc, etc. etc. I choose to hold a PBS-like fund raiser
each year during the month of November where I simply send out a short email
every other day asking the members to make a small contribution to support the
operation. That being said, that contribution is completely voluntary and non-compulsory.
Many members choose not to contribute and that's fine.
However, a very modest percentage of the members do choose to make a contribution
and it is that financial support that keeps the Lists running. And that's
it. To my way of thinking, it is a much more pleasant way of maintaining the
Lists and Forums. The other 11 months of the year, you don't see a single advertisement
or request for support. That's refreshing and that is a List and Forum
that I want to belong to. I think other people feel the same way.
Won't you please take a minute to make your Contribution today and support these
Lists?
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Or, drop a personal check in the mail to:
Matt Dralle / Matronics
581 Jeannie Way
Livermore CA 94550
USA
Thank you for your support!
Matt Dralle
Email List Admin.
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Just A Few Days Left... |
Dear Listers,
There are just a few days left for this year's List Fund Raiser. If you've been
putting off making a Contribution until the last minute, well, this is it!
The last minute, that is... :-) There are some GREAT new gift selections to choose
from this year. I personally want at least three of them! There's probably
something you can't live without too! And, best of all it supports your
Lists!
Please remember that there isn't any sort of commercial advertising on the Lists
and the *only* means of keeping these Lists running is through your Contributions
during this Fund Raiser. Let's make this a "Black Friday" for the Lists!
Please make a Contribution today!
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Or, drop a personal check in the mail to:
Matt Dralle / Matronics
581 Jeannie Way
Livermore CA 94550
Thank you!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Fund Raiser Behind By 20% - Please Contribute Today! |
Dear Listers,
The percentage of members making a Contribution to support the Lists this year
is currently behind last year by at this time by roughly 20%. Please take this
opportunity to show your support for the Matronics Lists and Forums!
Please remember that it is *solely* your direct Contributions that keep these Lists
and Forums up and running and most importantly - AD FREE! If the members
don't want to support the Lists directly, then I might have to add advertisements
to offset the costs of running the Lists. But I don't want to have to do
that. I really like the non-commercial atmosphere here and I think that a lot
of the members appreciate that too.
Please take a moment to make a Contribution today in support of the continued ad-free
operation of all these Lists:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Or, drop a personal check in the mail to:
Matt Dralle / Matronics
581 Jeannie Way
Livermore CA 94550
USA
I want to send out a word of appreciation to all of the members that have already
made their generous Contribution to support the Lists! Thank you!
Matt Dralle
Email List and Forums Administrator
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Make Sure You're Listed! List of Contributors Coming |
Soon!
Dear Listers,
There's just a few more days left in this year's List Fund Raiser and that means
the List of Contributors (LOC) is just around the corner! In December I post
a list of everyone that so generously made a Contribution to support the Lists.
Its my way of publicly thanking everyone that took a minute to show their
appreciation for the Lists.
Won't you take minute and assure that your name is on the upcoming LOC? Tell others
that you appreciate the Lists. Making a Contribution to support the Lists
is fast and easy using your Visa, MasterCard, or Paypal account:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Or, drop a personal check in the mail to:
Matt Dralle / Matronics
581 Jeannie Way
Livermore CA 94550
I would like to thank everyone that has so generously made a Contribution thus
far during this year's List Fund Raiser! Remember that its YOUR support that
keeps these Lists running and improving! Don't forget to include a little comment
about how the Lists have helped you!
Thank you!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Giving Thanks - Your List Contribution... |
Dear Listers,
Here in the United States, Thursday is our National day of Thanksgiving. Many
of us will be traveling to be with our families and friends to share in generous
feasts of plenty and giving thanks for the many blessings that have been bestowed
upon us.
Many Listers have expressed over the last couple of weeks how thankful they are
for the Email Lists and Forums here on the Matronics servers and for all of the
assistance and comradery they have experienced being a part of the Lists.
One of my favorite comments is when someone writes to me and says something like,
"Its the first thing I do in the morning while I'm having my morning coffee!".
That's a wonderful tribute to the purpose and function of these Lists.
Its always great to hear I'm not the only one that jumps out of bed each morning
to check my List email!!
Won't you take a minute today and show your appreciation for these Lists and for
their continued operation and upgrade?
The List Contribution Site is:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Or, drop a personal check in the mail to:
Matt Dralle / Matronics
581 Jeannie Way
Livermore CA 94550
USA
Thank you in advance for your kind consideration,
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Just Two Days Left! - Still Behind... |
Dear Listers,
There are just two more days left in this years List Fund Raiser. We are still
way behind last year in terms of the number of contributions and total contribution
amount. I really want to keep providing these services to the homebuilt
community, but it take resources. Since there's no advertising budget or deep
pockets to keep the operation a float, its solely your generosity during the
Fund Raiser that keeps things going. Please make a Contribution today.
If you've been putting off showing your support for the Lists, now is the time
to do it!
Make a contribution with a Credit Card or though PayPal at that Matronics Contribution
web site:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Or, drop a check in the mail:
Matronics / Matt Dralle
581 Jeannie Way
Livermore, CA 94550
Thank you in advance for your support!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Make Sure You're Listed! List of Contributors Coming |
Soon!
Dear Listers,
There's just two more days left in this year's List Fund Raiser and that means
the List of Contributors (LOC) is just around the corner! In December I post
a list of everyone that so generously made a Contribution to support the Lists.
Its my way of publicly
thanking everyone that took a minute to show their appreciation for the Lists.
Won't you take minute and assure that your name is on the upcoming LOC? Tell others
that you appreciate the Lists. Making a Contribution to support the Lists
is fast and easy using your Visa, MasterCard, or Paypal account:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Or, drop a personal check in the mail to:
Matt Dralle / Matronics
581 Jeannie Way
Livermore CA 94550
I would like to thank everyone that has so generously made a Contribution thus
far during this year's List Fund Raiser! Remember that its YOUR support that
keeps these Lists running and improving! Don't forget to include a little comment
about how the Lists have helped you!
Thank you!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | [Please Read] - Last Official Day of List Fund Raiser! |
Dear Listers,
It's November 30th and that always means a couple of things. Its my birthday again
- 51, so don't reminde me! :-) But it also means that it's that last official
day of the Matronics Email List Fund Raiser! If you been thinking about
picking up one of those really nice incentive gifts now is the time to jump
on it!!
If you've been meaning to make a Contribution this month but have been putting
it off for some reason, NOW is the time!
I will be posting the List of Contributors in a few days, so you'll probably want
to be known as a person that supported the Lists!
I want to thank everyone that has so generously made a Contribution this year in
support of our Lists. It is your generosity that keeps this operation running
and I don't ever forget it.
The List Contribution Web Site is fast and easy. Please support our habit by making
your Contribution right now:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Or, by dropping a personal check in the mail to:
Matt Dralle / Matronics
581 Jeannie Way
Livermore CA 94550
Thank you to all in advance!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | 2014 List of Contributors |
Dear Listers,
The 2014 Matronics Email List and Forum Fund Raiser officially ended a couple of
weeks ago and it's time that I published this year's List of Contributors.
It is the people on this list that directly make these Email Lists and Forums
possible! Their generous Contributions keep the servers and Internet connection
up and running!
You can still show your support this year and pick up a great gift at the same
time. The Contribution Web Site is fast, easy, and secure:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Or, by dropping a personal check in the mail to:
Matt Dralle / Matronics
581 Jeannie Way
Livermore CA 94550
I also want to thank Andy, Bob, Corbin, George, and Jon for their generous support
through the supply of many great gifts this year!! These guys have some excellent
products and I encourage you to visit their respective web sites:
Andy Gold - The Builder's Bookstore - http://www.buildersbooks.com
Bob Nucklolls - AeroElectric - http://www.aeroelectric.com
Corbin Glowacki - My Pilot Store - http://www.mypilotstore.com
George Race - Race Consulting - http://www.mrrace.com
Jon Croke - HomebuiltHELP - http://www.homebuilthelp.com
And finally, I'm proud to present The 2014 Fund Raiser List of Contributors:
http://www.matronics.com/loc/2014.html
Thank you again to everyone that made a Contribution this year!!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List & Forum Administrator
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| From: | "Joe " <backstagelive(at)gmail.com> |
| Subject: | Banquet for 2015 |
EAA ZENITH BUILDERS BANQUET FOR 2015
Now that the snow is melting in Oshkosh, I can feel that sensation of EAA
fever! The countdown is on for another spectacular event. Just announced
today, this year's EAA convention will include a B-52 Bomber on display for
the first time ever for an EAA convention!
Right now I have the preliminary information for the Zenith Builders Banquet
I would like to pass along to the builders and enthusiasts. This year's
banquet we be held at the Oshkosh Elks Lodge, 175 W Fernau Ave, Oshkosh, WI
54901, the same place as last year's banquet. The date is Thursday night,
July 23rd. The bar will open and serve cocktails at 5:30, with dinner
following at 7:30.
On the menu this year will be the Elks Lodge famous glazed pineapple ham,
broasted chicken, butter parsley potatoes, California blend vegetables,
bread, salad, and coffee.
Seeing that we will have a projector and screen this year, I would like to
ask Zenith builders to send me your very best high resolution JPEG pictures
via E-mail. I will put together a presentation and we can play it during the
cocktail and dinner segment. It will be a fun way to show off your projects,
and to maybe show some of your building pictures to the Zenith family. If
you want a caption added, just write a little something and I will insert it
in the presentation.
As always, there will be a few surprises, and I will give those details
along with the door prize list as things progress.
This year our banquet has its own Facebook page! Please go to FACEBOOK and
type in "Zenith Banquet". Enter "close friend" and "get notifications" so
you will be able to get all of the announcements as we go. I am just posting
the pictures tonight and it should be fully functional in a week or so.
Please log on and "Friend" the banquet page to you can get up to date news
immediately!
Price for the banquet this year remains the same as last year. The cost is
set at $20 per ticket and you can get them in the same way as last year.
Tickets will be available at the Zenith booth, and you will be able to use
PayPal again for faster service. To buy tickets with PayPal, just go to the
PayPal site and send $20 per ticket to backstagelive(at)gmail.com. To buy your
tickets by mail, send $20 per ticket and a return stamp to Joe Scheibinger,
2809 Scenic Drive, Oshkosh, WI 54904. That way you get your tickets by mail
along with a brochure that gives directions to the Elks, a time table of
Zenith events, and travel information for the local bus routes.
If you are planning to fly your plane to the convention, parking information
will be added in the next E-mail. It will basically be the same as last
year.
For more information and suggestions please contact Joe Scheibinger at
920-237-1450, or e-mail Joe at backstagelive(at)gmail.com, or go to the "Zenith
Banquet" Facebook page.
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | PLEASE READ - Matronics Email List Fund Raiser During |
November!
Dear Listers,
Each November I hold a PBS-like fund raiser to support the continued operation
and upgrade of the Email List and Fourm Services at Matronics. It's solely through
the Contributions of List members (you) that these Matronics Lists are possible.
You have probably noticed that there are no banner ads or pop-up windows on any of the Matronics Lists or related web sites such as the Forums site http://forums.matronics.com , Wiki site http://wiki.matronics.com , or other related pages such as the List Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search , List Browse http://www.matronics.com/listbrowse , etc. This is because I believe in a List experience that is completely about the sport we all enjoy - namely Airplanes and not about annoying advertisements.
During the month of November I will be sending out List messages every couple of
days reminding everyone that the Fund Raiser is underway. I ask for your patience
and understanding during the Fund Raiser and throughout these regular messages.
The Fund Raiser is only financial support mechanism I have to pay all
of the bills associated with running these lists. YOUR personal Contribution
counts!
This year we have a really HUGE and TERRIFIC line up of free gifts to go along
with the various Contribution levels. In fact, there are over 22 different gifts
to choose from! There's something for everyone, to be sure. Most all of
these gifts have been provided by some of the vary members and vendors that you'll
find on the Matronics Lists and they have been either donated or provided
at substantially discounted rates.
This year, these generous members include:
Andy Gold of the Builder's Bookstore http://www.buildersbooks.com
Andy is a very generous guy and I encourage you to visit his web site. I would
like publicly to thank Andy for his generous support of the Lists again this
year!!
Please make your List Contribution using any one of three secure methods including
using a credit card, PayPal, or by personal check. All three methods afford
you the opportunity to select one of this year's free gifts with a qualifying
Contribution amount!!
To make your Contribution, please visit the secure web site:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
I would like to thank everyone in advance for their generous financial AND moral
support over the years!
Thank you!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
RV-4/RV-6/RV-8 Builder/Rebuilder/Pilot
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Please Make A Contribution To Support Your Lists |
Dear Listers,
There is no advertising income to support the Matronics Email Lists and Forums.
The operation is supported 100% by your personal Contributions during the November
Fund Raiser.
Please make your Contribution today to support the continued operation and upgrade
of these services. You can pick up a really nice gift for making your Contribution
too!
You may use a Credit Card or Paypal at the Matronics Contribution Site here:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
or, you can send a personal check to the following address:
Matronics / Matt Dralle
581 Jeannie Way
Livermore, CA 94550
Thank you in advance for your generous support!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List and Forum Administrator
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Coming Soon - The List of Contributors - Please Make A |
Contribution Today!
Each year at the end of the List Fund Raiser, I post a message acknowledging everyone
that so generously made a Contribution to support the Lists. Its my way
of publicly thanking everyone that took a minute to show their appreciation
for the Lists.
Please take a moment and assure that your name is on that List of Contributors
(LOC)! As a number of members have pointed out over the years, the List seems
at least as valuable a building / entertainment tool as your typical magazine
subscription!
Assure that your name is on this year's LOC! Show others that you appreciate the
Lists. Making a Contribution to support the Lists is fast and easy using your
Credit card or Paypal on the Secure Web Site:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
or by dropping a personal check in the mail to:
Matt Dralle / Matronics
581 Jeannie Way
Livermore CA 94550
I would like to thank everyone that has so generously made a Contribution thus
far in this year's List Fund Raiser! Remember that its YOUR support that keeps
these Lists going and improving! Don't forget to include a little comment about
how the Lists have helped you!
Best regards,
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Please Make a Contribution to Support Your Lists... |
Dear Listers,
Just a reminder that November is the Annual List Fund Raiser. Please make a Contribution
today to support the continued operation and upgrade of these great
List services!! Pick up a really nice free gift with your qualifying Contribution
too!
The Contribution Site is fast and easy:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
or by dropping a personal check in the mail to:
Matt Dralle / Matronics
581 Jeannie Way
Livermore CA 94551-0347
Thank you!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | A List Contribution - It's Your Personal Squelch Button... |
There is an automatic "squelch button" of sorts for the Fund Raiser messages.
Here's how it works... As soon as a List member makes a Contribution through
the Matronics Fund Raiser web site, their email address is automatically added
to this year's Contributor List and they instantly cease to receive further Fund
Raiser messages for the rest of the month! Its just that simple! :-)
I really do appreciate each and every one of your individual Contributions to support
the Lists. It is your support that enables me to upgrade the hardware
and software that are required to run a List Site such as this one. It also goes
to pay for the commercial-grade Internet connection and to pay the huge electric
bill to keep the computer gear running and the air conditioner powered
on. I run all of the Matronics Email List and Forums sites here locally which
allows me to control and monitor every aspect of the system for the utmost in
reliably and performance. Your personal Contribution matters because, when combined
with other Listers such as yourself, it pays the bills to keep this site
up and running. I accept exactly ZERO advertising dollars for the Matronics
Lists sites. I can't stand the pop-up ads and all other commercials that are
so prevalent on the Internet these days and I particularly don't want to have
it on my Email List sites.
If you appreciate the ad-free, grass-roots, down-home feel of the Matronics Email
Lists, please make a Contribution to keep it that way!!
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
or, you can send a personal check to the following address:
Matronics / Matt Dralle
581 Jeannie Way
Livermore, CA 94550
Thank you!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
[Note that there are certain circumstances where you might still see a Contribution
related message. For example, if someone replies to one of the messages,
when using the List Browse feature, or when accessing List message via the Forum.
The system keys on the given email address and since most of these are anonymous
public access methods, there is no simple way to filter them.]
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | [PLEASE READ] Why I Have A Fund Raiser... |
Since the beginning, the Matronics List and Forum experience has been free from
advertising. I have been approached by fair number of vendors wanting to tap
into the large volume of activity across the various lists hosted here, but have
always flatly refused. Everywhere you go on the Internet these days, a user
is pummeled with flashing banners and videos and ads for crap that they don't
want. Yahoo, Google and that ilk are not "free". The user must constantly
endure their barrage of commercialism thrust into their face at an ever increasing
rate. Enough is enough, and the Lists at Matronics choose not to succumb
to that.
That being said, running a service of this size is not "free". It costs a lot
of money to maintain the hardware, pay for the electricity, air conditioning,
maintenance contracts, etc, etc. etc. I choose to hold a PBS-like fund raiser
each year during the month of November where I simply send out a short email
every other day asking the members to make a small contribution to support the
operation. That being said, that contribution is completely voluntary and non-compulsory.
Many members choose not to contribute and that's fine.
However, a very modest percentage of the members do choose to make a contribution
and it is that financial support that keeps the Lists running. And that's
it. To my way of thinking, it is a much more pleasant way of maintaining the
Lists and Forums. The other 11 months of the year, you don't see a single advertisement
or request for support. That's refreshing and that is a List and Forum
that I want to belong to. I think other people feel the same way.
Won't you please take a minute to make your Contribution today and support these
Lists?
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Or, drop a personal check in the mail to:
Matt Dralle / Matronics
581 Jeannie Way
Livermore CA 94550
USA
Thank you for your support!
Matt Dralle
Email List Admin.
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Make Sure You're Listed! List of Contributors Published |
in December!
Dear Listers,
The List of Contributors (LOC) is just around the corner! In December I post a
list of everyone that so generously made a Contribution to support the Lists.
Its my way of publicly thanking everyone that took a minute to show their appreciation
for the Lists.
Won't you take minute and assure that your name is on the upcoming LOC? Tell others
that you appreciate the Lists. Making a Contribution to support the Lists
is fast and easy using your Visa, MasterCard, or Paypal account:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Or, drop a personal check in the mail to:
Matt Dralle / Matronics
581 Jeannie Way
Livermore CA 94550
USA
I would like to thank everyone that has so generously made a Contribution thus
far during this year's List Fund Raiser! Remember that its YOUR support that
keeps these Lists running and improving! Don't forget to include a little comment
about how the Lists have helped you!
Thank you!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
Dear Listers,
A quick reminder that November is the annual Matronics List Fund Raiser. The Lists
are 100% member supported and all of the operational costs are covered solely
through your Contributions during this time of the year.
*Your* personal Contribution makes a difference and keeps all of the Matronics
Email Lists and Forums completely ad-free.
Please make your Contribution today to keep these services up and running for another
great year!
Use a credit card or your PayPal account here:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Or, by sending a personal check to:
Matronics / Matt Dralle
581 Jeannie Way
Livermore CA 94550
Thank you in advance!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List and Forum Administrator
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | List Contribution - Value of the List... |
If you look forward to checking your List email everyday (and a lot of you have
written to say that you do!), then you're probably getting at least $20 or $30
worth of Entertainment from the Lists each year. You'd pay twice that for a
subscription to some magazine or even a dinner out. Isn't the List worth at least
that much to you? Wouldn't it be great if you could pay that amount and get
a well-managed media source free of advertising, SPAM, and viruses? Come to
think of it, you do... :-)
Won't you please take a minute to make your Contribution today and support these
Lists?
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Or, drop a personal check in the mail to:
Matt Dralle / Matronics
581 Jeannie Way
Livermore CA 94550
USA
I want to say THANK YOU to everyone that has made a Contribution thus far during
this year's List Fund Raiser!! These Lists are made possible exclusively through
YOUR generosity!!
Thank you for your support!
Matt Dralle
Email List Admin.
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | owner-zenith640-list-server(at)matronics.com |
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Please Make a Contribution to Support Your Lists... |
Dear Listers,
Just a reminder that November is the Annual List Fund Raiser. Please make a Contribution
today to support the continued operation and upgrade of these great
List services!! Pick up a really nice free gift with your qualifying Contribution
too!
The Contribution Site is fast and easy:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
or by dropping a personal check in the mail to:
Matt Dralle / Matronics
581 Jeannie Way
Livermore CA 94550
Thank you!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Coming Soon - The List of Contributors - Please Make A |
Contribution Today!
Each year at the end of the List Fund Raiser, I post a message acknowledging everyone
that so generously made a Contribution to support the Lists. Its my way
of publicly thanking everyone that took a minute to show their appreciation
for the Lists.
Please take a moment and assure that your name is on that List of Contributors
(LOC)! As a number of members have pointed out over the years, the List seems
at least as valuable a building / entertainment tool as your typical magazine
subscription!
Assure that your name is on this year's LOC! Show others that you appreciate the
Lists. Making a Contribution to support the Lists is fast and easy using your
Credit card or Paypal on the Secure Web Site:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
or by dropping a personal check in the mail to:
Matt Dralle / Matronics
581 Jeannie Way
Livermore CA 94550
I would like to thank everyone that has so generously made a Contribution thus
far in this year's List Fund Raiser! Remember that its YOUR support that keeps
these Lists going and improving! Don't forget to include a little comment about
how the Lists have helped you!
Best regards,
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Fund Raiser Behind By 22% - Please Contribute Today! |
Dear Listers,
The percentage of members making a Contribution to support the Lists this year
is currently behind last year by at this time by roughly 22%. Please take this
opportunity to show your support for the Matronics Lists and Forums!
Please remember that it is *solely* your direct Contributions that keep these Lists
and Forums up and running and most importantly - AD FREE! If the members
don't want to support the Lists directly, then I might have to add advertisements
to offset the costs of running the Lists. But I don't want to have to do
that. I really like the non-commercial atmosphere here and I think that a lot
of the members appreciate that too.
Please take a moment to make a Contribution today in support of the continued ad-free
operation of all these Lists:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Or, drop a personal check in the mail to:
Matt Dralle / Matronics
581 Jeannie Way
Livermore CA 94550
USA
I want to send out a word of appreciation to all of the members that have already
made their generous Contribution to support the Lists! Thank you!
Matt Dralle
Email List and Forums Administrator
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Just A Few Days Left... |
Dear Listers,
There are just a few days left for this year's List Fund Raiser. If you've been
putting off making a Contribution until the last minute, well, this is it!
The last minute, that is... :-) There are some GREAT new gift selections to choose
from this year. I personally want at least three of them! There's probably
something you can't live without too! And, best of all it supports your
Lists!
Please remember that there isn't any sort of commercial advertising on the Lists
and the *only* means of keeping these Lists running is through your Contributions
during this Fund Raiser. Let's make this a "Black Friday" for the Lists!
Please make a Contribution today!
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Or, drop a personal check in the mail to:
Matt Dralle / Matronics
581 Jeannie Way
Livermore CA 94550
Thank you!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | What Are You Thankful For...? |
Dear Listers,
Here in the United States, Thursday is our National day of Thanksgiving. Many
of us will be traveling to be with our families and friends to share in generous
feasts of plenty and giving thanks for the many blessings that have been bestowed
upon us.
Many Listers have expressed over the last couple of weeks how thankful they are
for the Email Lists and Forums here on the Matronics servers and for all of the
assistance and comradery they have experienced being a part of the Lists.
One of my favorite comments is when someone writes to me and says something like,
"Its the first thing I do in the morning while I'm having my morning coffee!".
That's a wonderful tribute to the purpose and function of these Lists.
Its always great to hear I'm not the only one that jumps out of bed each morning
to check my List email!!
Won't you take a minute today and show your appreciation for these Lists and for
their continued operation and upgrade?
The List Contribution Site is:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Or, drop a personal check in the mail to:
Matt Dralle / Matronics
581 Jeannie Way
Livermore CA 94550
USA
Thank you in advance for your kind consideration,
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Make Sure You're Listed! List of Contributors Coming |
Soon!
Dear Listers,
There's just three more days left in this year's List Fund Raiser and that means
the List of Contributors (LOC) is just around the corner! In December I post
a list of everyone that so generously made a Contribution to support the Lists.
Its my way of publicly thanking everyone that took a minute to show their
appreciation for the Lists.
Won't you take minute and assure that your name is on the upcoming LOC? Tell others
that you appreciate the Lists. Making a Contribution to support the Lists
is fast and easy using your Visa, MasterCard, or Paypal account:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Or, drop a personal check in the mail to:
Matt Dralle / Matronics
581 Jeannie Way
Livermore CA 94550
I would like to thank everyone that has so generously made a Contribution thus
far during this year's List Fund Raiser! Remember that its YOUR support that
keeps these Lists running and improving! Don't forget to include a little comment
about how the Lists have helped you!
Thank you!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Fund Raiser - Just Two Days Left! - Still Well Behind... |
Dear Listers,
There are just two more full days left in this year's List Fund Raiser. Over the
last couple of weeks I have received some really nice comments from members
on what the Lists have meant to them and I really appreciate the feedback!
At this point, unfortunately, we are still well behind last year in total Contributions
to support the continued operation of these services. I really want
to keep providing these Lists and Forums to the home built community, but it takes
resources. Since there's no advertising budget or deep pockets to keep the
operation a float, it's *solely your generosity* during the yearly Fund Raiser
that keeps things going. Please make a Contribution today so that I can keep
the bills paid and the services and systems turned on. If you've been putting
off showing your support for the Lists, now is the time to do it!
To make a contribution with a Credit Card or though PayPal at that Matronics Contribution
web site:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Or, drop a check in the mail:
Matronics / Matt Dralle
581 Jeannie Way
Livermore, CA 94550
USA
Thank you in advance for your support! It is very much appreciated...
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | [PLEASE READ] Why I Have A Fund Raiser... |
Since the beginning, the Matronics List and Forum experience has been free from
advertising. I have been approached by fair number of vendors wanting to tap
into the large volume of activity across the various lists hosted here, but have
always flatly refused. Everywhere you go on the Internet these days, a user
is pummeled with flashing banners and videos and ads for crap that they don't
want. Yahoo, Google and that elk are not "free". The user must constantly
endure their barrage of commercialism thrust into their face at an ever increasing
rate. Enough is enough, and the Lists at Matronics choose not to succumb
to that.
That being said, running a service of this size is not "free". It costs a lot
of money to maintain the hardware, pay for the electricity, air conditioning,
maintenance contracts, etc, etc. etc. I choose to hold a PBS-like fund raiser
each year during the month of November where I simply send out a short email
every other day asking the members to make a small contribution to support the
operation. That being said, that contribution is completely voluntary and non-compulsory.
Many members choose not to contribute and that's fine.
However, a very modest percentage of the members do choose to make a contribution
and it is that financial support that keeps the Lists running. And that's
it. To my way of thinking, it is a much more pleasant way of maintaining the
Lists and Forums. The other 11 months of the year, you don't see a single advertisement
or request for support. That's refreshing and that is a List and Forum
that I want to belong to. I think other people feel the same way.
Won't you please take a minute to make your Contribution today and support these
Lists?
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Or, drop a personal check in the mail to:
Matt Dralle / Matronics
581 Jeannie Way
Livermore CA 94550
USA
Thank you for your support!
Matt Dralle
Email List Admin.
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | [Please Read] - Last Official Day of List Fund Raiser! |
Dear Listers,
It's November 30th and that always means a couple of things. Its my birthday again
- 52, so don't remind me! :-) But it also means that it's that last official
day of the Matronics Email List Fund Raiser! If you been thinking about
picking up one of those really nice incentive gifts now is the time to jump on
it!!
If you've been meaning to make a Contribution this month but have been putting
it off for some reason, NOW is the time!
I will be posting the List of Contributors in a few days, so you'll probably want
to be known as a person that supported the Lists!
I want to thank everyone that has so generously made a Contribution this year in
support of our Lists. It is your generosity that keeps this operation running
and I don't ever
forget it.
The List Contribution Web Site is fast and easy. Please support our habit by making
your Contribution right now:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Or, by dropping a personal check in the mail to:
Matt Dralle / Matronics
581 Jeannie Way
Livermore CA 94550
USA
Thank you in advance!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Auction For P113 eMag To Support Matronics List Fund Raiser |
Dear Listers,
Bob Nuckolls of the AeroElectric fame has generously put a new eMag P113 electronic
4-cylinder mag up for sale on EBay. Bob has pledged to donate all of the
proceeds from this auction in support of this year's Matronics Fund Raiser.
If you are in the market for one of these great electronic ignitions (I have two
eMags on my RV-8 and love them), please bid on this one!
http://www.ebay.com/itm/151920582478
Thank you in advance!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | 2015 List of Contributors |
Dear Listers,
The 2015 Matronics Email List and Forum Fund Raiser officially ended a couple of
weeks ago and it's time that I published this year's List of Contributors.
It is the people on this list that directly make these Email Lists and Forums
possible! Their generous Contributions keep the servers and Internet connection
up and running!
You can still show your support this year and pick up a great gift at the same
time. The Contribution Web Site is fast, easy, and secure:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Or, by dropping a personal check in the mail to:
Matt Dralle / Matronics
581 Jeannie Way
Livermore CA 94550
I also want to thank Andy, Bob, and George for their generous support through the
supply of many great gifts this year!! These guys have some excellent products
and I encourage you to visit their respective web sites:
Andy Gold - The Builder's Bookstore - http://www.buildersbooks.com
Bob Nucklolls - AeroElectric - http://www.aeroelectric.com
George Race - Race Consulting - http://www.mrrace.com
And finally, I'm proud to present The 2015 Fund Raiser List of Contributors:
http://www.matronics.com/loc/2015.html
Thanks again to everyone that made a Contribution this year!!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List & Forum Administrator
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Matronics Web Server Back Online |
Dear Listers,
The Matronics Web server lost a critical system hard drive yesterday 4/18/2016.
I have been working feverishly for the last 24 hours to repair the system and
get the Matronics Forums and other web-based resources back online.
Email services were not impacted in anyway.
back online and all resources were successfully restored from a backup.
My apologies for the down time.
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email and Forum Admin
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Joe " <backstagelive(at)gmail.com> |
Zenith Banquet
It's time once again to announce the Zenith Aircraft Builders Banquet for
2016! Our event will once again be held at the Oshkosh Elks Lodge, 175 West
Fernau Ave, in Oshkosh, on Thursday, July 28. As always we have very
comfortable seating, our own private bar, award winning food, and door
prizes! The full bar will open at 5:30 PM for people that would like to come
and relax early. Dinner starts at 7:30 PM. Tickets are available at the door
for $20 per person. On the menu this year will be the Elks Lodge specialty,
Pineapple Rum Glazed Ham and Broasted Chicken with all the trimmings.
We have made one important change to this year's banquet. You won't have to
pre-purchase your tickets! You will be able to just come to the banquet and
pay at the door! All credit cards will be accepted. We did this because we
want to keep the costs down and keep the price the same. This will help us
save money on tickets, PayPal, postage, and it will help the Zenith
employees on the field by letting them do what they do best - sell
airplanes! Just come to the banquet and pay at the door! Brochures about the
banquet will be at the Zenith tent or you can get one at
backstagelive(at)gmail.com.
EAA Zenith Showplane Parking
Zenith showplane parking will be just north of the Homebuilders center on
the flight line in its usual place across from the Zenith factory display.
Please follow the NOTAMS instructions for signage for parking, and add
another sign that says "ZENITH". When you get near the parking area flagmen
will help get you to the location requested. Most of the parking volunteers
know what Zenith airplanes look like, but any extra signage helps! Once your
aircraft is parked, EAA's policy is no engine operations in the parking area
and the aircraft will need to be pushed to the east of the safety line for
engine start. If you are anticipating demonstrating or flying any of the
aircraft during the convention, park your aircraft as close to the
flightline as you can.
Accommodations
The Oshkosh Elks Lodge has a very large parking area and they are offering
motor home parking for $10 per night for anyone coming to the banquet before
coming to the EAA, or if you need overnight accommodations for after the
banquet. For more information please call me at 920-237-1450 or E-mail me at
backstagelive(at)gmail.com to make reservations. Electrical spots are available
on a first come basis.
Everyone have a very safe and wonderful trip to Oshkosh. If I can be your
Oshkosh connection for anything please call me at 920-237-1450 or e-mail me
at backstagelive(at)gmail.com and I can help.
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Joe " <backstagelive(at)gmail.com> |
Zenith Banquet
It's time once again to announce the Zenith Aircraft Builders Banquet for
2016! Our event will once again be held at the Oshkosh Elks Lodge, 175 West
Fernau Ave, in Oshkosh, on Thursday, July 28. As always we have very
comfortable seating, our own private bar, award winning food, and door
prizes! The full bar will open at 5:30 PM for people that would like to come
and relax early. Dinner starts at 7:30 PM. Tickets are available at the door
for $20 per person. On the menu this year will be the Elks Lodge specialty,
Pineapple Rum Glazed Ham and Broasted Chicken with all the trimmings.
We have made one important change to this year's banquet. You won't have to
pre-purchase your tickets! You will be able to just come to the banquet and
pay at the door! All credit cards will be accepted. We did this because we
want to keep the costs down and keep the price the same. This will help us
save money on tickets, PayPal, postage, and it will help the Zenith
employees on the field by letting them do what they do best - sell
airplanes! Just come to the banquet and pay at the door! Brochures about the
banquet will be at the Zenith tent or you can get one at
backstagelive(at)gmail.com.
EAA Zenith Showplane Parking
Zenith showplane parking will be just north of the Homebuilders center on
the flight line in its usual place across from the Zenith factory display.
Please follow the NOTAMS instructions for signage for parking, and add
another sign that says "ZENITH". When you get near the parking area flagmen
will help get you to the location requested. Most of the parking volunteers
know what Zenith airplanes look like, but any extra signage helps! Once your
aircraft is parked, EAA's policy is no engine operations in the parking area
and the aircraft will need to be pushed to the east of the safety line for
engine start. If you are anticipating demonstrating or flying any of the
aircraft during the convention, park your aircraft as close to the
flightline as you can.
Accommodations
The Oshkosh Elks Lodge has a very large parking area and they are offering
motor home parking for $10 per night for anyone coming to the banquet before
coming to the EAA, or if you need overnight accommodations for after the
banquet. For more information please call me at 920-237-1450 or E-mail me at
backstagelive(at)gmail.com to make reservations. Electrical spots are available
on a first come basis.
Everyone have a very safe and wonderful trip to Oshkosh. If I can be your
Oshkosh connection for anything please call me at 920-237-1450 or e-mail me
at backstagelive(at)gmail.com and I can help.
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Joe " <backstagelive(at)gmail.com> |
In just a few weeks I get to see all of you at the Zenith Banquet! Oshkosh
is starting to get very busy! Lots of air traffic and lots of tents going up
on the grounds.
For all of you that would like a Zenith banquet brochure sent to you via
E-mail, please drop me a line at backstagelive(at)gmail.com and I will E-mail
you a brochure immediately. It has all the information on the banquet with a
map, location, and time, and a complete list of all the Zenith forums that
will be held on the field.
Remember, there are no advance tickets sold this year at the Zenith tent.
The boys need their time to sell airplanes! Brochures on the banquet will be
at the zenith tent if you would like to pick one up. Tickets are the same
price as last year, $20 per person. The banquet will be at the Oshkosh Elks
Lodge on Thursday, July 28, with cocktails at 5:30 and dinner at 7;30 just
like in previous years.
Everyone have a safe and enjoyable flight (or drive) to Oshkosh. See you all
soon!
Joe Scheibinger
920-237-1450
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| Subject: | Airport Courtesy Cars App/Website Update |
| From: | "gbrasch" <gmbrasch(at)gmail.com> |
ACC's app is still free in the app stores, and on the web. Currently over 11,000 active pilots are using it, and several businesses and FBO' offer fuel and other product discounts. I recently added a Facebook page which will include updates and events. If you are on Facebook please take a look and like it at www.facebook.com/airportcourtesycars Thanks!
--------
Glenn Brasch
RV-9A Flying
Medevac Helicopter Pilot (Ret)
Owner, "Airport Courtesy Cars" Smart Phone App
and www.airportcourtesycars.com
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=460193#460193
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | PLEASE READ - Matronics Email List 2016 Fund Raiser During |
November!
Dear Listers,
Each November I hold a PBS-like fund raiser to support the continued operation
and upgrade of the Email List and Fourm Services at Matronics. It's solely through
the Contributions of List members (you) that these Matronics Lists are possible.
You have probably noticed that there are no banner ads or pop-up windows on any of the Matronics Lists or related web sites such as the Forums site http://forums.matronics.com , Wiki site http://wiki.matronics.com , or other related pages such as the List Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search , List Browse http://www.matronics.com/listbrowse , etc. This is because I believe in a List experience that is completely about the sport we all enjoy - namely Airplanes and not about annoying advertisements.
During the month of November I will be sending out List messages every couple of
days reminding everyone that the Fund Raiser is underway. I ask for your patience
and understanding during the Fund Raiser and throughout these regular messages.
The Fund Raiser is only financial support mechanism I have to pay all
of the bills associated with running these lists. YOUR personal Contribution
counts!
This year we have a really HUGE and TERRIFIC line up of free gifts to go along
with the various Contribution levels. In fact, there are over 24 different gifts
to choose from! There's something for everyone, to be sure. Most all of
these gifts have been provided by some of the vary members and vendors that you'll
find on the Matronics Lists and they have been either donated or provided
at substantially discounted rates.
This year, these generous members include:
Andy Gold of the Builder's Bookstore http://www.buildersbooks.com
Bob Nuckolls of the AeroElectric Connection http://www.aeroelectric.com
Corbin Glowacki of My Pilot Store http://www.mypilotstore.com
George Race of Race Consulting http://www.mrrace.com/
Jon Croke of HomebuiltHELP http://www.homebuilthelp.com
These are very generous guys and I encourage you to visit their respective web
sites. Each one offers a unique and excellent aviation-related product line.
I would like publicly to thank Andy, Bob, Corbin, George, and Jon their generous
support of the Lists again this year!!
Please make your List Contribution using any one of three secure methods including
using a credit card, PayPal, or by personal check. All three methods afford
you the opportunity to select one of this year's free gifts with a qualifying
Contribution amount!!
To make your Contribution, please visit the secure web site:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
I would like to thank everyone in advance for their generous financial AND moral
support over the years!
Thank you!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
RV-4/RV-6/RV-8 Builder/Rebuilder/Pilot
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Please Make A Contribution To Support Your Lists |
Dear Listers,
There is no advertising income to support the Matronics Email Lists and Forums.
The operation is supported 100% by your personal Contributions during the November
Fund Raiser.
Please make your Contribution today to support the continued operation and upgrade
of these services. You can pick up a really nice gift for making your Contribution
too!
You may use a Credit Card or Paypal at the Matronics Contribution Site here:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
or, you can send a personal check to the following address:
Matronics / Matt Dralle
581 Jeannie Way
Livermore, CA 94550
Thank you in advance for your generous support!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List and Forum Administrator
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Coming Soon - The List of Contributors - Please Make A |
Contribution Today!
Each year at the end of the List Fund Raiser, I post a message acknowledging everyone
that so generously made a Contribution to support the Lists. Its my way
of publicly thanking everyone that took a minute to show their appreciation
for the Lists.
Please take a moment and assure that your name is on that List of Contributors
(LOC)! As a number of members have pointed out over the years, the List seems
at least as valuable a building / entertainment tool as your typical magazine
subscription!
Assure that your name is on this year's LOC! Show others that you appreciate the
Lists. Making a Contribution to support the Lists is fast and easy using your
Credit card or Paypal on the Secure Web Site:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
or by dropping a personal check in the mail to:
Matt Dralle / Matronics
581 Jeannie Way
Livermore CA 94550
I would like to thank everyone that has so generously made a Contribution thus
far in this year's List Fund Raiser! Remember that its YOUR support that keeps
these Lists going and improving! Don't forget to include a little comment about
how the Lists have helped you!
Best regards,
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Please Make A Contribution To Support Your Lists |
Dear Listers,
There is no advertising income to support the Matronics Email Lists and Forums.
The operation is supported 100% by your personal Contributions during the November
Fund Raiser.
Please make your Contribution today to support the continued operation and upgrade
of these services. You can pick up a really nice gift for making your Contribution
too!
You may use a Credit Card or Paypal at the Matronics Contribution Site here:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
or, you can send a personal check to the following address:
Matronics / Matt Dralle
581 Jeannie Way
Livermore, CA 94550
Thank you in advance for your generous support!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List and Forum Administrator
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | A List Contribution - It's Your Personal Squelch Button... |
There is an automatic "squelch button" of sorts for the Fund Raiser messages.
Here's how it works... As soon as a List member makes a Contribution through
the Matronics Fund Raiser web site, their email address is automatically added
to this year's Contributor List and they instantly cease to receive further Fund
Raiser messages for the rest of the month! Its just that simple! :-)
I really do appreciate each and every one of your individual Contributions to support
the Lists. It is your support that enables me to upgrade the hardware
and software that are required to run a List Site such as this one. It also goes
to pay for the commercial-grade Internet connection and to pay the huge electric
bill to keep the computer gear running and the air conditioner powered
on. I run all of the Matronics Email List and Forums sites here locally which
allows me to control and monitor every aspect of the system for the utmost in
reliably and performance. Your personal Contribution matters because, when combined
with other Listers such as yourself, it pays the bills to keep this site
up and running. I accept exactly ZERO advertising dollars for the Matronics
Lists sites. I can't stand the pop-up ads and all other commercials that are
so prevalent on the Internet these days and I particularly don't want to have
it on my Email List sites.
If you appreciate the ad-free, grass-roots, down-home feel of the Matronics Email
Lists, please make a Contribution to keep it that way!!
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
or, you can send a personal check to the following address:
Matronics / Matt Dralle
581 Jeannie Way
Livermore, CA 94550
Thank you!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
[Note that there are certain circumstances where you might still see a Contribution
related message. For example, if someone replies to one of the messages,
when using the List Browse feature, or when accessing List message via the Forum.
The system keys on the given email address and since most of these are anonymous
public access methods, there is no simple way to filter them.]
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Make Sure You're Listed! List of Contributors Published |
in December!
Dear Listers,
The List of Contributors (LOC) is just around the corner! In December I post a
list of everyone that so generously made a Contribution to support the Lists.
Its my way of publicly thanking everyone that took a minute to show their appreciation
for the Lists.
Won't you take minute and assure that your name is on the upcoming LOC? Tell others
that you appreciate the Lists. Making a Contribution to support the Lists
is fast and easy using your Visa, MasterCard, or Paypal account:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Or, drop a personal check in the mail to:
Matt Dralle / Matronics
581 Jeannie Way
Livermore CA 94550
USA
I would like to thank everyone that has so generously made a Contribution thus
far during this year's List Fund Raiser! Remember that its YOUR support that
keeps these Lists running and improving! Don't forget to include a little comment
about how the Lists have helped you!
Thank you!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | [PLEASE READ] Why I Have A Fund Raiser... |
Since the beginning, the Matronics List and Forum experience has been free from
advertising. I have been approached by fair number of vendors wanting to tap
into the large volume of activity across the various lists hosted here, but have
always flatly refused. Everywhere you go on the Internet these days, a user
is pummeled with flashing banners and videos and ads for crap that they don't
want. Yahoo, Google and that ilk are not "free". The user must constantly
endure their barrage of commercialism thrust into their face at an ever increasing
rate. Enough is enough, and the Lists at Matronics choose not to succumb
to that.
That being said, running a service of this size is not "free". It costs a lot
of money to maintain the hardware, pay for the electricity, air conditioning,
maintenance contracts, etc, etc. etc. I choose to hold a PBS-like fund raiser
each year during the month of November where I simply send out a short email
every other day asking the members to make a small contribution to support the
operation. That being said, that contribution is completely voluntary and non-compulsory.
Many members choose not to contribute and that's fine.
However, a very modest percentage of the members do choose to make a contribution
and it is that financial support that keeps the Lists running. And that's
it. To my way of thinking, it is a much more pleasant way of maintaining the
Lists and Forums. The other 11 months of the year, you don't see a single advertisement
or request for support. That's refreshing and that is a List and Forum
that I want to belong to. I think other people feel the same way.
Won't you please take a minute to make your Contribution today and support these
Lists?
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Or, drop a personal check in the mail to:
Matt Dralle / Matronics
581 Jeannie Way
Livermore CA 94550
USA
Thank you for your support!
Matt Dralle
Email List Admin.
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
Dear Listers,
A quick reminder that November is the annual Matronics List Fund Raiser. The Lists
are 100% member supported and all of the operational costs are covered solely
through your Contributions during this time of the year.
*Your* personal Contribution makes a difference and keeps all of the Matronics
Email Lists and Forums completely ad-free.
Please make your Contribution today to keep these services up and running for another
great year!
Use a credit card or your PayPal account here:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Or, by sending a personal check to:
Matronics / Matt Dralle
581 Jeannie Way
Livermore CA 94550
Thank you in advance!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List and Forum Administrator
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | What's Your Contribution Used For? |
Dear Listers,
You might have wondered at some point, "What's my Contribution used for?" Here
are just a few examples of what your direct List support enables... It provides
for the expensive, commercial-grade Internet connection used on the List.
It pays for the regular system hardware and software upgrades enabling the highest
performance possible for List services such as the Archive Search Engine,
List Browser, and the Web Forums. It pays for the over 23 years of on-line
archive data always available for instant search and access. And, it offsets
the many hours spent writing, developing, and maintaining the custom applications
that power these List Service such as the List Browse, Search Engine, Forums,
and Wiki.
But most importantly, your List Contribution enables a forum where you and your
peers can communicate freely in an environment that is free from moderation,
censorship, advertising, commercialism, SPAM, and computer viruses.
It is YOUR CONTRIBUTION that directly enables all these aspects of Matronics List
services. Please support it today with your List Contribution. Its one of
the best investments you can make in your Sport!
List Contribution Web Site:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
or, you can send a personal check to the following address:
Matronics / Matt Dralle
581 Jeannie Way
Livermore, CA 94550
Thank you for your support!
Matt Dralle
Email List Administrator
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Please Make a Contribution to Support Your Lists... |
Dear Listers,
Just a reminder that November is the Annual List Fund Raiser. Please make a Contribution
today to support the continued operation and upgrade of these great
List services!! Pick up a really nice free gift with your qualifying Contribution
too!
The Contribution Site is fast and easy:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
or by dropping a personal check in the mail to:
Matt Dralle / Matronics
581 Jeannie Way
Livermore CA 94550
Thank you!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Coming Soon - The List of Contributors - Please Make A |
Contribution Today!
Each year at the end of the List Fund Raiser, I post a message acknowledging everyone
that so generously made a Contribution to support the Lists. Its my way
of publicly thanking everyone that took a minute to show their appreciation
for the Lists.
Please take a moment and assure that your name is on that List of Contributors
(LOC)! As a number of members have pointed out over the years, the List seems
at least as valuable a building / entertainment tool as your typical magazine
subscription!
Assure that your name is on this year's LOC! Show others that you appreciate the
Lists. Making a Contribution to support the Lists is fast and easy using your
Credit card or Paypal on the Secure Web Site:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
or by dropping a personal check in the mail to:
Matt Dralle / Matronics
581 Jeannie Way
Livermore CA 94550
I would like to thank everyone that has so generously made a Contribution thus
far in this year's List Fund Raiser! Remember that its YOUR support that keeps
these Lists going and improving! Don't forget to include a little comment about
how the Lists have helped you!
Best regards,
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Value of the List... |
If you look forward to checking your List email everyday (and a lot of you have
written to say that you do!), then you're probably getting at least $20 or $30
worth of Entertainment from the Lists each year. You'd pay twice that for a
subscription to some magazine or even a dinner out. Isn't the List worth at least
that much to you? Wouldn't it be great if you could pay that amount and get
a well-managed media source free of advertising, SPAM, and viruses? Come to
think of it, you do... :-)
Won't you please take a minute to make your Contribution today and support these
Lists?
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Or, drop a personal check in the mail to:
Matt Dralle / Matronics
581 Jeannie Way
Livermore CA 94550
USA
I want to say THANK YOU to everyone that has made a Contribution thus far during
this year's List Fund Raiser!! These Lists are made possible exclusively through
YOUR generosity!!
Thank you for your support!
Matt Dralle
Email List Admin.
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Just A Few Days Left... |
Dear Listers,
There are just a few days left for this year's List Fund Raiser. If you've been
putting off making a Contribution until the last minute, well, this is it!
The last minute, that is... :-) There are some GREAT new gift selections to choose
from this year. I personally want at least three of them! There's probably
something you can't live without too! And, best of all it supports your
Lists!
Please remember that there isn't any sort of commercial advertising on the Lists
and the *only* means of keeping these Lists running is through your Contributions
during this Fund Raiser. Let's make this a "Black Friday" for the Lists!
Please make a Contribution today!
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Or, drop a personal check in the mail to:
Matt Dralle / Matronics
581 Jeannie Way
Livermore CA 94550
Thank you!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Please Make a Contribution to Support Your Lists... |
Dear Listers,
Just a reminder that November is the Annual List Fund Raiser. Please make a Contribution
today to support the continued operation and upgrade
of these great List services!! Pick up a really nice free gift with your qualifying
Contribution too!
The Contribution Site is fast and easy:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
or by dropping a personal check in the mail to:
Matt Dralle / Matronics
581 Jeannie Way
Livermore CA 94550
Thank you!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Fund Raiser Behind By 28% - Please Contribute Today! |
Dear Listers,
The percentage of members making a Contribution to support the Lists this year
is currently behind last year by at this time by roughly 28%. Please take this
opportunity to show your support for the Matronics Lists and Forums!
Please remember that it is *solely* your direct Contributions that keep these Lists
and Forums up and running and most importantly - AD FREE! If the members
don't want to support the Lists directly, then I might have to add advertisements
to offset the costs of running the Lists. But I don't want to have to do
that. I really like the non-commercial atmosphere here and I think that a lot
of the members appreciate that too.
Please take a moment to make a Contribution today in support of the continued ad-free
operation of all these Lists:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Or, drop a personal check in the mail to:
Matt Dralle / Matronics
581 Jeannie Way
Livermore CA 94550
USA
I want to send out a word of appreciation to all of the members that have already
made their generous Contribution to support the Lists!
Thank you!
Matt Dralle
Email List and Forums Administrator
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Just Two Days Left! - Still Behind... |
Dear Listers,
There are just two more days left in this years List Fund Raiser. We are still
way behind last year in terms of the number of contributions and
total contribution amount. I really want to keep providing these services to the
homebuilt community, but it take resources. Since there's no
advertising budget or deep pockets to keep the operation a float, its solely your
generosity during the Fund Raiser that keeps things going. Please
make a Contribution today.
If you've been putting off showing your support for the Lists, now is the time
to do it!
Make a contribution with a Credit Card or though PayPal at that Matronics Contribution
web site:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Or, drop a check in the mail:
Matronics / Matt Dralle
581 Jeannie Way
Livermore, CA 94550
Thank you in advance for your support!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | [Please Read] - Last Official Day of List Fund Raiser! |
Dear Listers,
It's November 30th and that always means a couple of things. Its my birthday again
- 53! :-) But it also means that it's that last official day of the Matronics
Email List Fund Raiser! If you been thinking about picking up one of those
really nice incentive gifts now is the time to jump on it!!
If you've been meaning to make a Contribution this month but have been putting
it off for some reason, NOW is the time!
I will be posting the List of Contributors in a few days, so you'll probably want
to be known as a person that supported the Lists!
I want to thank everyone that has so generously made a Contribution this year in
support of our Lists. It is your generosity that keeps this operation running
and I don't ever forget it.
The List Contribution Web Site is fast and easy. Please support our habit by making
your Contribution right now:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Or, by dropping a personal check in the mail to:
Matt Dralle / Matronics
581 Jeannie Way
Livermore CA 94550
USA
Thank you in advance!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Airport Courtesy Cars App Closing? |
| From: | "gbrasch" <gmbrasch(at)gmail.com> |
IMPORTANT! If you are a user of the app version of Airport Courtesy Cars, please
view it for an important message about the possible closure of the app, or view
the page here:
https://www.airportcourtesycars.com/app-status.html
--------
Glenn Brasch
RV-9A Flying
Medevac Helicopter Pilot (Ret)
Owner, "Airport Courtesy Cars" Smart Phone App
and www.airportcourtesycars.com
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=464023#464023
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Re: Airport Courtesy Cars App Closing? |
| From: | "gbrasch" <gmbrasch(at)gmail.com> |
I am happy to report that thanks to donations, the site continues. View the donors or add your name by clicking here: https://www.airportcourtesycars.com/thank-you-donors-.html Thanks, Glenn
--------
Glenn Brasch
RV-9A Flying
Medevac Helicopter Pilot (Ret)
Owner, "Airport Courtesy Cars" Smart Phone App
and www.airportcourtesycars.com
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=464153#464153
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | 2016 List of Contributors |
Dear Listers,
The 2016 Matronics Email List and Forum Fund Raiser officially ended a couple of
weeks ago and it's time that I published this year's List of Contributors.
It is the people on this list that directly make these Email Lists and Forums
possible! Their generous
Contributions keep the servers and Internet connection up and running!
You can still show your support this year and pick up a great gift at the same
time. The Contribution Web Site is fast, easy, and secure:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Or, by dropping a personal check in the mail to:
Matt Dralle / Matronics
581 Jeannie Way
Livermore CA 94550
I also want to thank Andy, Bob, George, and Jon for their generous support through
the supply of many great gifts this year!! These guys have some excellent
products and I encourage you to visit their respective web sites:
Andy Gold - The Builder's Bookstore - http://www.buildersbooks.com
Bob Nucklolls - AeroElectric - http://www.aeroelectric.com
George Race - Race Consulting - http://www.mrrace.com
Jon Croke - HomebuiltHELP - http://www.homebuilthelp.com
And finally, I'm proud to present The 2016 Fund Raiser List of Contributors:
http://www.matronics.com/loc/2016.html
Thank you again to everyone that made a Contribution this year!!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List & Forum Administrator
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Airport Cafe's Now Listed in ACC's |
| From: | "gbrasch" <gmbrasch(at)gmail.com> |
I have just added over 50 airport cafs (and still growing) to current listings
in the Airport Courtesy Cars website and app (just in case your courtesy car isnt
available when you arrive!) These listings are highlighted in red so you can
easily find them. If you have any additions or corrections, please email them
directly to me at airportcars101(at)gmail.com. Thanks and Happy New Year! Glenn
PS, Submit your ramp fee's experience also for inclusion in the website/app!
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Glenn Brasch
RV-9A Flying
Medevac Helicopter Pilot (Ret)
Owner, "Airport Courtesy Cars" Smart Phone App
and www.airportcourtesycars.com
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=464568#464568
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| From: | "Joe " <backstagelive(at)gmail.com> |
| Subject: | Zenith Banquet 2017 |
Hi Everyone,
The Zenith Aircraft Banquet this year will be held at the Elks Lodge in
Oshkosh on Thursday, July 27th. Same location, same price. We are working on
it now and will have more for you as we progress. Mark it on your calendar
for Oshkosh!
Joe Scheibinger
920-237-1450
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Joe " <backstagelive(at)gmail.com> |
| Subject: | Zenith Banquet 2017 |
Hi Everyone,
The Zenith Aircraft Banquet this year will be held at the Elks Lodge in
Oshkosh on Thursday, July 27th. Same location, same price. We are working on
it now and will have more for you as we progress. Mark it on your calendar
for Oshkosh!
Joe Scheibinger
920-237-1450
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Matronics Internet Connectivity Upgrades April 17-18 2017 |
Dear Matronics Email List an/or Forum User,
The Matronics Internet connectivity will be upgraded on April 17 through April
18, 2017. During the upgrade connections to the Matronics and AeroElectric web
servers may be unavailable. Additionally, Matronics Email List email will not
be redistributed.
Internet Connectivity bandwidth will be significantly increased by a factor of
7X for downloads and 50X for uploads, which represents a significant increase
in performance. Reliability should also increase in terms.
I will send out a follow up message when the upgrade has been completed.
Best Regards,
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List and Forum Admin.
Matt G Dralle | Matronics | 581 Jeannie Way | Livermore | CA | 94550
925-606-1001 V | 925-606-6281 F | dralle(at)matronics.com Email
http://www.matronics.com/ WWW | Featuring Products For Aircraft
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Joe " <backstagelive(at)gmail.com> |
Hello Fellow Builders and Enthusiasts!
If you haven't come to a Zenith banquet in the past, you won't want to miss
this very special banquet! It's the Zenith Company's 25th anniversary! What
an incredible celebration this is going to be! We are all part of one of the
most incredible aviation families since Paul Poberezny started the movement
in his basement over 50 years ago! So in 5 more weeks, we celebrate one of
the most successful and ethical aviation companies in existence.
The banquet will once again be held at the Elks Lodge in Oshkosh. This
beautiful facility served us well year after year. We have very comfortable
seating for over 250 people, our own private bar, and award winning food.
The banquet will be held on Thursday, July 27th, 2017. The bar will open at
5:30 and dinner starts at 7:30. Tickets are available for $20 per person at
the door via cash or credit card. On the menu this year will be the Elks
Lodge specialty, Pineapple Rum Glazed Ham and Broasted Chicken, buttered
parsley potatoes, green beans, and all the trimmings! Lots of door prizes
and 50/50 raffles! Once again this year there will be a very special
surprise dessert so make sure you bring your camera!
The Elks Club uses the profits from the dinner for Scholarships, veterans
programs, and other charitable events. So not only is this a celebration for
us, it's a fund raising event for others. A perfect combination.
I have an information sheet with all the times and dates for the banquet,
aircraft parking information, and all of the Zenith company forums during
EAA. If you would like one, please send me an E-mail to
backstagelive(at)gmail.com and I will attach one and forward it to you.
Have a safe trip to Oshkosh everyone!
Joe Scheibinger in Oshkosh
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Joe " <backstagelive(at)gmail.com> |
Hello Fellow Builders and Enthusiasts!
If you haven't come to a Zenith banquet in the past, you won't want to miss
this very special banquet! It's the Zenith Company's 25th anniversary! What
an incredible celebration this is going to be! We are all part of one of the
most incredible aviation families since Paul Poberezny started the movement
in his basement over 50 years ago! So in 5 more weeks, we celebrate one of
the most successful and ethical aviation companies in existence.
The banquet will once again be held at the Elks Lodge in Oshkosh. This
beautiful facility served us well year after year. We have very comfortable
seating for over 250 people, our own private bar, and award winning food.
The banquet will be held on Thursday, July 27th, 2017. The bar will open at
5:30 and dinner starts at 7:30. Tickets are available for $20 per person at
the door via cash or credit card. On the menu this year will be the Elks
Lodge specialty, Pineapple Rum Glazed Ham and Broasted Chicken, buttered
parsley potatoes, green beans, and all the trimmings! Lots of door prizes
and 50/50 raffles! Once again this year there will be a very special
surprise dessert so make sure you bring your camera!
The Elks Club uses the profits from the dinner for Scholarships, veterans
programs, and other charitable events. So not only is this a celebration for
us, it's a fund raising event for others. A perfect combination.
I have an information sheet with all the times and dates for the banquet,
aircraft parking information, and all of the Zenith company forums during
EAA. If you would like one, please send me an E-mail to
backstagelive(at)gmail.com and I will attach one and forward it to you.
Have a safe trip to Oshkosh everyone!
Joe Scheibinger in Oshkosh
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| Subject: | New plans holder of CH-640 |
| From: | "way_up_north" <top_gun_toronto(at)hotmail.com> |
Hi everyone...I bought a 640 plans set
I owned an rv7 and got to the wings before I sold it due to family changes.
I also own a sonex plans set I bought second hand to look over.
I like the 640 cause it has load capacity to spare for things like a brs parachute..
etc..
I'm coming into the 640 build with eyes open and aware we're a little bit on our
own..
Can anyone who is still building chime in. Let's talk
Mr Tremblay if you're still around, I've seen your site in archive but all the
pictures are lost. If you still have your build pictures I could rebuild your
site for people's benefit.
It's a shout out, if you're out there
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=473402#473402
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | PLEASE READ - Matronics Email List 2017 Fund Raiser During |
November!
Dear Listers,
Each November I hold a PBS-like fund raiser to support the continued operation
and upgrade of the Email List and Fourm Services at Matronics. It's solely through
the Contributions of List members (you) that these Matronics Lists are possible.
You have probably noticed that there are no banner ads or pop-up windows on any of the Matronics Lists or related web sites such as the Forums site http://forums.matronics.com , Wiki site http://wiki.matronics.com , or other related pages such as the List Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search , List Browse http://www.matronics.com/listbrowse , etc. This is because I believe in a List experience that is completely about the sport we all enjoy - namely Airplanes and not about annoying advertisements.
During the month of November I will be sending out List messages every couple of
days reminding everyone that the Fund Raiser is underway. I ask for your patience
and understanding during the Fund Raiser and throughout these regular messages.
The Fund Raiser is only financial support mechanism I have to pay all
of the bills associated with running these lists. YOUR personal Contribution
counts!
This year we have a really HUGE and TERRIFIC line up of free gifts to go along
with the various Contribution levels. In fact, there are 9 great gifts to choose
from! There's something for everyone, to be sure.
Please make your List Contribution using any one of three secure methods including
using a Credit Card, PayPal, or by Personal Check. All three methods afford
you the opportunity to select one of this year's free gifts with a qualifying
Contribution amount!!
To make your Contribution, please visit the secure web site:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
I would like to thank everyone in advance for their generous financial AND moral
support over the years!
Thank you!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
RV-4/RV-6/RV-8 Builder/Rebuilder/Pilot
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Please Make A Contribution To Support Your Lists |
Dear Listers,
There is no advertising income to support the Matronics Email Lists and Forums.
The operation is supported 100% by your personal Contributions during the November
Fund Raiser.
Please make your Contribution today to support the continued operation and upgrade
of these services. You can pick up a really nice gift for making your Contribution
too!
You may use a Credit Card or Paypal at the Matronics Contribution Site here:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
or, you can send a personal check to the following address:
Matronics / Matt Dralle
581 Jeannie Way
Livermore, CA 94550
Thank you in advance for your generous support!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List and Forum Administrator
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Help Keep Airport Courtesy Cars Running |
| From: | "gbrasch" <airportcars101(at)gmail.com> |
Last November, a few people (out of thousands) complained to me that my fundraising
efforts for the Airport Courtesy Cars site were too often. In response,
I will only ask for donations once a year, in November.
In the past few months I have transferred all the data to a web based platform.
As a result, the site will work on ANY device with no bugs, crashes, or Android
and Apple permissions required. Please refer to website for more details.
The site now lists over 1,830 courtesy cars across the U.S. I receive a very small
percent of my operating costs from advertisers. Most of my expenses are covered
from small donations from pilots like you. I take no salary.
Please consider any donation to keep the site up and running in the coming year.
Donations can be made via the secure PayPal tab on the site (you don not need
a PayPal account), or by mailing your donation to: Airport Courtesy Cars.
P.O. Box 85762, Tucson, Arizona 85754. All donors will be listed on the donor
page (unless you request not to be). Any donation is greatly appreciated.
Please share this post with a fellow pilot who might benefit from A.C.C.s
You can continue to email me your updates and suggestions to: airportcars101(at)gmail.com Thank you, Glenn www.airportcourtesycars.com
--------
Glenn Brasch
RV-9A Flying
Medevac Helicopter Pilot (Ret)
Owner, "Airport Courtesy Cars" Website www.airportcourtesycars.com
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=474325#474325
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Coming Soon - The List of Contributors - Please Make A |
Contribution Today!
Each year at the end of the List Fund Raiser, I post a message acknowledging everyone
that so generously made a Contribution to support the Lists. Its my way
of publicly thanking everyone that took a minute to show their appreciation
for the Lists.
Please take a moment and assure that your name is on that List of Contributors
(LOC)! As a number of members have pointed out over the years, the List seems
at least as valuable a building / entertainment tool as your typical magazine
subscription!
Assure that your name is on this year's LOC! Show others that you appreciate the
Lists. Making a Contribution to support the Lists is fast and easy using your
Credit card or Paypal on the Secure Web Site:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
or by dropping a personal check in the mail to:
Matt Dralle / Matronics
581 Jeannie Way
Livermore CA 94550
I would like to thank everyone that has so generously made a Contribution thus
far in this year's List Fund Raiser! Remember that its YOUR support that keeps
these Lists going and improving! Don't forget to include a little comment about
how the Lists have
helped you!
Best regards,
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Please Make A Contribution To Support Your Lists |
Dear Listers,
There is no advertising income to support the Matronics Email Lists and Forums.
The operation is supported 100% by your personal Contributions during the November
Fund Raiser.
Please make your Contribution today to support the continued operation and upgrade
of these services. You can pick up a really nice gift for making your Contribution
too!
You may use a Credit Card or Paypal at the Matronics Contribution Site here:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
or, you can send a personal check to the following address:
Matronics / Matt Dralle
581 Jeannie Way
Livermore, CA 94550
Thank you in advance for your generous support!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List and Forum Administrator
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | A List Contribution - It's Your Personal Squelch Button... |
There is an automatic "squelch button" of sorts for the Fund Raiser messages.
Here's how it works... As soon as a List member makes a Contribution through
the Matronics Fund Raiser web site, their email address is automatically added
to this year's Contributor
List and they instantly cease to receive further Fund Raiser messages for the rest
of the month! Its just that simple! :-)
I really do appreciate each and every one of your individual Contributions to support
the Lists. It is your support that enables me to upgrade the hardware
and software that are required to run a List Site such as this one. It also goes
to pay for the
commercial-grade Internet connection and to pay the huge electric bill to keep
the computer gear running and the air conditioner powered on. I run all of the
Matronics Email List and Forums sites here locally which allows me to control
and monitor every aspect
of the system for the utmost in reliably and performance. Your personal Contribution
matters because, when combined with other Listers such as yourself, it
pays the bills to keep this site up and running. I accept exactly ZERO advertising
dollars for the
Matronics Lists sites. I can't stand the pop-up ads and all other commercials
that are so prevalent on the Internet these days and I particularly don't want
to have it on my Email List sites.
If you appreciate the ad-free, grass-roots, down-home feel of the Matronics Email
Lists, please make a Contribution to keep it that way!!
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
or, you can send a personal check to the following address:
Matronics / Matt Dralle
581 Jeannie Way
Livermore, CA 94550
Thank you!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
[Note that there are certain circumstances where you might still see a Contribution
related message. For example, if someone replies to one of the messages,
when using the List Browse feature, or when accessing List message via the Forum.
The system keys on the
given email address and since most of these are anonymous public access methods,
there is no simple way to filter them.]
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Make Sure You're Listed! List of Contributors Published |
in December!
Dear Listers,
The List of Contributors (LOC) is just around the corner! In December I post a
list of everyone that so generously made a Contribution to support the Lists.
Its my way of publicly thanking everyone that took a minute to show their appreciation
for the Lists.
Won't you take minute and assure that your name is on the upcoming LOC? Tell others
that you appreciate the Lists. Making a Contribution to support the Lists
is fast and easy using your Visa, MasterCard, or Paypal account:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Or, drop a personal check in the mail to:
Matt Dralle / Matronics
581 Jeannie Way
Livermore CA 94550
USA
I would like to thank everyone that has so generously made a Contribution thus
far during this year's List Fund Raiser! Remember that its YOUR support that
keeps these Lists running and improving! Don't forget to include a little comment
about how the Lists have
helped you!
Thank you!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | [PLEASE READ] Why I Have A Fund Raiser... |
Since the beginning, the Matronics List and Forum experience has been free from
advertising. I have been approached by fair number of vendors wanting to tap
into the large volume of activity across the various lists hosted here, but have
always flatly refused. Everywhere you go on the Internet these days, a user
is pummeled with flashing banners and videos and ads for crap that they don't
want. Yahoo, Google and that ilk are not "free". The user must constantly
endure their barrage of commercialism thrust into their face at an ever increasing
rate. Enough is enough, and the Lists at Matronics choose not to succumb
to that.
That being said, running a service of this size is not "free". It costs a lot
of money to maintain the hardware, pay for the electricity, air conditioning,
maintenance contracts, etc, etc. etc. I choose to hold a PBS-like fund raiser
each year during the month of November where I simply send out a short email
every other day asking the members to make a small contribution to support the
operation. That being said, that contribution is completely voluntary and non-compulsory.
Many members choose not to contribute and that's fine.
However, a very modest percentage of the members do choose to make a contribution
and it is that financial support that keeps the Lists running. And that's
it. To my way of thinking, it is a much more pleasant way of maintaining the
Lists and Forums. The other 11 months of the year, you don't see a single advertisement
or request for support. That's refreshing and that is a List and Forum
that I want to belong to. I think other people feel the same way.
Won't you please take a minute to make your Contribution today and support these
Lists?
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Or, drop a personal check in the mail to:
Matt Dralle / Matronics
581 Jeannie Way
Livermore CA 94550
USA
Thank you for your support!
Matt Dralle
Email List Admin.
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
Dear Listers,
A quick reminder that November is the annual Matronics List Fund Raiser. The Lists
are 100% member supported and all of the operational costs are covered solely
through your Contributions during this time of the year.
*Your* personal Contribution makes a difference and keeps all of the Matronics
Email Lists and Forums completely ad-free.
Please make your Contribution today to keep these services up and running for another
great year!
Use a credit card or your PayPal account here:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Or, by sending a personal check to:
Matronics / Matt Dralle
581 Jeannie Way
Livermore CA 94550
Thank you in advance!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List and Forum Administrator
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | What's Your Contribution Used For? |
Dear Listers,
You might have wondered at some point, "What's my Contribution used for?" Here
are just a few examples of what your direct List support enables... It provides
for the expensive, commercial-grade Internet connection used on the List.
It pays for the regular system hardware and software upgrades enabling the highest
performance possible for List services such as the Archive Search Engine,
List Browser, and the Web Forums. It pays for the over 23 years of on-line
archive data always available for instant search and access. And, it offsets
the many hours spent writing, developing, and maintaining the custom applications
that power these List Service such as the List Browse, Search Engine, Forums,
and Wiki.
But most importantly, your List Contribution enables a forum where you and your
peers can communicate freely in an environment that is free from moderation,
censorship, advertising, commercialism, SPAM, and computer viruses.
It is YOUR CONTRIBUTION that directly enables all these aspects of Matronics List
services. Please support it today with your List Contribution. Its one of
the best investments you can make in your Sport!
List Contribution Web Site:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
or, you can send a personal check to the following address:
Matronics / Matt Dralle
581 Jeannie Way
Livermore, CA 94550
Thank you for your support!
Matt Dralle
Email List Administrator
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Please Make a Contribution to Support Your Lists... |
Dear Listers,
Just a reminder that November is the Annual List Fund Raiser. Please make a Contribution
today to support the continued operation and upgrade of these great
List services!! Pick up a really nice free gift with your qualifying Contribution
too!
The Contribution Site is fast and easy:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
or by dropping a personal check in the mail to:
Matt Dralle / Matronics
581 Jeannie Way
Livermore CA 94550
Thank you!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Coming Soon - The List of Contributors - Please Make A |
Contribution Today!
Each year at the end of the List Fund Raiser, I post a message acknowledging everyone
that so generously made a Contribution to support the Lists. Its my way
of publicly thanking everyone that took a minute to show their appreciation
for the Lists.
Please take a moment and assure that your name is on that List of Contributors
(LOC)! As a number of members have pointed out over the years, the List seems
at least as valuable a building / entertainment tool as your typical magazine
subscription!
Assure that your name is on this year's LOC! Show others that you appreciate the
Lists. Making a Contribution to support the Lists is fast and easy using your
Credit card or Paypal on the Secure Web Site:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
or by dropping a personal check in the mail to:
Matt Dralle / Matronics
581 Jeannie Way
Livermore CA 94550
I would like to thank everyone that has so generously made a Contribution thus
far in this year's List Fund Raiser! Remember that its YOUR support that keeps
these Lists going and improving! Don't forget to include a little comment about
how the Lists have
helped you!
Best regards,
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Value of the List... |
If you look forward to checking your List email everyday (and a lot of you have
written to say that you do!), then you're probably getting at least $20 or $30
worth of Entertainment from the Lists each year. You'd pay twice that for a
subscription to some
magazine or even a dinner out. Isn't the List worth at least that much to you?
Wouldn't it be great if you could pay that amount and get a well-managed media
source free of advertising, SPAM, and viruses? Come to think of it, you do...
:-)
Won't you please take a minute to make your Contribution today and support these
Lists?
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Or, drop a personal check in the mail to:
Matt Dralle / Matronics
581 Jeannie Way
Livermore CA 94550
USA
I want to say THANK YOU to everyone that has made a Contribution thus far during
this year's List Fund Raiser!! These Lists are made possible exclusively through
YOUR generosity!!
Thank you for your support!
Matt Dralle
Email List Admin.
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Just A Few Days Left... |
Dear Listers,
There are just a few days left for this year's List Fund Raiser. If you've been
putting off making a Contribution until the last minute, well, this is it!
The last minute, that is... :-) There are some GREAT new gift selections to choose
from this year. I personally want at least three of them! There's probably
something you can't live without too! And, best of all it supports your
Lists!
Please remember that there isn't any sort of commercial advertising on the Lists
and the *only* means of keeping these Lists running is through your Contributions
during this Fund Raiser. Let's make this a "Black Friday" for the Lists!
Please make a Contribution today!
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Or, drop a personal check in the mail to:
Matt Dralle / Matronics
581 Jeannie Way
Livermore CA 94550
Thank you!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Just A Few Days Left... |
Dear Listers,
There are just a few days left for this year's List Fund Raiser. If you've been
putting off making a Contribution until the last minute, well, this is it!
The last minute, that is... :-) There are some GREAT new gift selections to choose
from this year. I personally want at least three of them! There's probably
something you can't live without too! And, best of all it supports your
Lists!
Please remember that there isn't any sort of commercial advertising on the Lists
and the *only* means of keeping these Lists running is through your Contributions
during this Fund Raiser. Let's make this a "Black Friday" for the Lists!
Please make a Contribution today!
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Or, drop a personal check in the mail to:
Matt Dralle / Matronics
581 Jeannie Way
Livermore CA 94550
Thank you!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Coming Soon - The List of Contributors - Please Make A |
Contribution Today!
Each year at the end of the List Fund Raiser, I post a message acknowledging everyone
that so generously made a Contribution to support the Lists. Its my way
of publicly thanking everyone that took a minute to show their appreciation
for the Lists.
Please take a moment and assure that your name is on that List of Contributors
(LOC)! As a number of members have pointed out over the years, the List seems
at least as valuable a building / entertainment tool as your typical magazine
subscription!
Assure that your name is on this year's LOC! Show others that you appreciate the
Lists. Making a Contribution to support the Lists is fast and easy using your
Credit card or Paypal on the Secure Web Site:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
or by dropping a personal check in the mail to:
Matt Dralle / Matronics
581 Jeannie Way
Livermore CA 94550
I would like to thank everyone that has so generously made a Contribution thus
far in this year's List Fund Raiser! Remember that its YOUR support that keeps
these Lists going and improving! Don't forget to include a little comment about
how the Lists have
helped you!
Best regards,
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | [Please Read] - Last Official Day of List Fund Raiser! |
Dear Listers,
It's November 30th and that always means a couple of things. Its my birthday again
- 54! :-) But it also means that it's that last official day of the Matronics
Email List Fund Raiser! If you been thinking about picking up one of those
really nice incentive gifts now is the time to jump on it!!
If you've been meaning to make a Contribution this month but have been putting
it off for some reason, NOW is the time!
I will be posting the List of Contributors in a few days, so you'll probably want
to be known as a person that supported the Lists!
I want to thank everyone that has so generously made a Contribution this year in
support of our Lists. It is your generosity that keeps this operation running
and I don't ever forget it.
The List Contribution Web Site is fast and easy. Please support our habit by making
your Contribution right now:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Or, by dropping a personal check in the mail to:
Matt Dralle / Matronics
581 Jeannie Way
Livermore CA 94550
USA
Thank you in advance!
December 30, 2010 - December 06, 2017
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