Yes, Charlie, this IS the wrong place for your political views.
Glad you realize that fact. Hope you remember it.
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On Nov 14, 2009, at 8:53 PM, Charlie England wrote:
> <ceengland@bellsouth.net>
>
> possums wrote:
>> At 10:46 PM 11/13/2009, you wrote:
>>> "We have met the enemy and he is us".
>>>
>>> Pogo
>> He Is Us
>> .
>> The announcement that the Obama Administration will try 9/11
>> mastermind *Khalid Sheikh Mohammed* in New York City raises some
>> important issues when it comes to what Congress has decided about
>> detainees at Guantanamo Bay - for years & do you think they will
>> really be tried in "New York" - No Way - move to a different
>> venue,after 6 months - Moved to a new venue after 6 months, - moved
>> again to maybe "American Somomo"?
>>
>> It was very instructive to see what issue President Obama
>> emphasized before leaving on an eight day trip to Asia. Let's put
>> it this way: it was not health care or Afghanistan or what ever ....
>>
>> The budget news for *_October_*, the first month of the new fiscal
>> year, was simply mountains of red ink, as the deficit for just
>> *one month* was $176.4 billion. that was on top of an all-time
>> record of $1.42 trillion...
>>
>> In Washington the ACORN Administration is trying to find something
>> to blame the Ft. Hood shootings on other than a radical Muslim
>> hell-bent on killing infidels while shouting praises to his God.
>> Since the House passed its health care reform bill in just one
>> day, most Americans didn't have to become temporary experts on
>> legislative procedure. .
>> but this is not a political form - sorry Ted
>
> You know, a lot of this stuff gets perpetuated because no one
> challenges it, and the people who repeat it never bother to check
> their sources. I'm not much of an Obama fan, but I would like to
> know where all the critics were when the same policies were carried
> out by the previous administration.
>
> First, what *did* Obama emphasize before leaving? (I ask because
> that's the kind of thing that can be highly subjective, depending
> on whether you follow actual news outlets or Faux News....)
>
> It's helpful if you understand stuff, so you know whether you're
> complaining about the right things.
>
> For starters, did you know that war spending has *never* been
> included in any budget, until now? That's one area of spending that
> all previous administrations have attempted to hide from the
> public. While I didn't vote for Obama, at least I can give him
> credit for having the gonads to put the costs out front. The
> previous bunch of cowards (I believe that Chicken Hawks is the
> preferred term) tried to hide the human cost, too, by forbidding
> news coverage of returning casualties, even when the families
> requested it. If something really is worth fighting for, it's worth
> telling those who are paying the cost about the full price. It's
> also worth telling them the truth about what we are really fighting
> for, which didn't happen this time, just like it didn't happen 45
> years ago in SE Asia.
>
> I don't like the 'stimulus' spending driving up the deficit, but I
> didn't much care for the previous administration handing roughly
> the same amount of money to banking mega-corps with no strings
> attached, either. I don't recall you complaining when that
> happened; why not? I don't recall you complaining when previous
> administrations, starting with Reagan, chipped away at banking
> regulations, culminating with the change in classification of
> derivatives from insurance to 'investment' about 10 years ago,
> allowing (actually, *causing*) the recent financial meltdown. If
> you liked what went on for the last decade, why are you complaining
> about the what's happing now, which is actually just a continuation
> of previous administrations' agendas?
>
> The comment about Acorn is somewhat irrelevant since the
> organization had its financial teeth pulled (did you miss that?).
>
> I, probably like you, don't consider the house health bill much in
> the way of reform, but it actually took quite a few more days than
> one to pass. If you're trying to imply that the public was misled,
> or facts were hidden, where was your voice during the past 8 years?
> Again, I'm not endorsing current policies, but I'm informed enough
> to know that what I'm seeing is nothing new. If we want health care
> reform, it needs to start with the health industry itself, not
> 'insurance'.
>
> BTW, did you know that the previous administration increased
> entitlement spending ('welfare'), the prime frustration of
> conservatives, more than any administration in history, even the
> dreadful Johnson 'Great Society' period?
>
> I'm just saying that you should be mad for the right reasons,
> instead of mad at who the propagandists tell you to be mad at.
>
> Yeah, this is the wrong place for this, but misleading info
> shouldn't be allowed to stand just because it was posted to an
> improper forum to start with.
>
> Charlie
>
>
