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----- Original Message -----
From: "Charlie England" <ceengland@bellsouth.net>
To: <kolb-list@matronics.com>
Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009 9:16 AM
Subject: Re: Re: Darwin wins again!
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> So, it's the wrong place for *my* political views, but the right place for
> views you think you agree with? Any voice you think you agree with is ok
> here, but anything else is not?
>
> Sad evidence of how closed minded we have become....
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> Charlie
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> russ kinne wrote:
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>> Yes, Charlie, this IS the wrong place for your political views.
>> Glad you realize that fact. Hope you remember it.
>> do not archive
>>
>> On Nov 14, 2009, at 8:53 PM, Charlie England wrote:
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>>> <ceengland@bellsouth.net>
>>>
>>> possums wrote:
>>>> At 10:46 PM 11/13/2009, you wrote:
>>>>> "We have met the enemy and he is us".
>>>>>
>>>>> Pogo
>>>> He Is Us
>>>> .
>>>> The announcement that the Obama Administration will try 9/11 mastermind
>>>> *Khalid Sheikh Mohammed* in New York City raises some important issues
>>>> when it comes to what Congress has decided about detainees at
>>>> Guantanamo Bay - for years & do you think they will really be tried in
>>>> "New York" - No Way - move to a different venue,after 6 months -
>>>> Moved to a new venue after 6 months, - moved
>>>> again to maybe "American Somomo"?
>>>>
>>>> It was very instructive to see what issue President Obama emphasized
>>>> before leaving on an eight day trip to Asia. Let's put it this way:
>>>> it was not health care or Afghanistan or what ever ....
>>>>
>>>> The budget news for *_October_*, the first month of the new fiscal
>>>> year, was simply mountains of red ink, as the deficit for just *one
>>>> month* was $176.4 billion. that was on top of an all-time record of
>>>> $1.42 trillion...
>>>>
>>>> In Washington the ACORN Administration is trying to find something to
>>>> blame the Ft. Hood shootings on other than a radical Muslim hell-bent
>>>> on killing infidels while shouting praises to his God.
>>>> Since the House passed its health care reform bill in just one day,
>>>> most Americans didn't have to become temporary experts on legislative
>>>> procedure. .
>>>> but this is not a political form - sorry Ted
>>>
>>> You know, a lot of this stuff gets perpetuated because no one challenges
>>> it, and the people who repeat it never bother to check their sources.
>>> I'm not much of an Obama fan, but I would like to know where all the
>>> critics were when the same policies were carried out by the previous
>>> administration.
>>>
>>> First, what *did* Obama emphasize before leaving? (I ask because that's
>>> the kind of thing that can be highly subjective, depending on whether
>>> you follow actual news outlets or Faux News....)
>>>
>>> It's helpful if you understand stuff, so you know whether you're
>>> complaining about the right things.
>>>
>>> For starters, did you know that war spending has *never* been included
>>> in any budget, until now? That's one area of spending that all previous
>>> administrations have attempted to hide from the public. While I didn't
>>> vote for Obama, at least I can give him credit for having the gonads to
>>> put the costs out front. The previous bunch of cowards (I believe that
>>> Chicken Hawks is the preferred term) tried to hide the human cost, too,
>>> by forbidding news coverage of returning casualties, even when the
>>> families requested it. If something really is worth fighting for, it's
>>> worth telling those who are paying the cost about the full price. It's
>>> also worth telling them the truth about what we are really fighting for,
>>> which didn't happen this time, just like it didn't happen 45 years ago
>>> in SE Asia.
>>>
>>> I don't like the 'stimulus' spending driving up the deficit, but I
>>> didn't much care for the previous administration handing roughly the
>>> same amount of money to banking mega-corps with no strings attached,
>>> either. I don't recall you complaining when that happened; why not? I
>>> don't recall you complaining when previous administrations, starting
>>> with Reagan, chipped away at banking regulations, culminating with the
>>> change in classification of derivatives from insurance to 'investment'
>>> about 10 years ago, allowing (actually, *causing*) the recent financial
>>> meltdown. If you liked what went on for the last decade, why are you
>>> complaining about the what's happing now, which is actually just a
>>> continuation of previous administrations' agendas?
>>>
>>> The comment about Acorn is somewhat irrelevant since the organization
>>> had its financial teeth pulled (did you miss that?).
>>>
>>> I, probably like you, don't consider the house health bill much in the
>>> way of reform, but it actually took quite a few more days than one to
>>> pass. If you're trying to imply that the public was misled, or facts
>>> were hidden, where was your voice during the past 8 years? Again, I'm
>>> not endorsing current policies, but I'm informed enough to know that
>>> what I'm seeing is nothing new. If we want health care reform, it needs
>>> to start with the health industry itself, not 'insurance'.
>>>
>>> BTW, did you know that the previous administration increased entitlement
>>> spending ('welfare'), the prime frustration of conservatives, more than
>>> any administration in history, even the dreadful Johnson 'Great Society'
>>> period?
>>>
>>> I'm just saying that you should be mad for the right reasons, instead of
>>> mad at who the propagandists tell you to be mad at.
>>>
>>> Yeah, this is the wrong place for this, but misleading info shouldn't be
>>> allowed to stand just because it was posted to an improper forum to
>>> start with.
>>>
>>> Charlie
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