---------------------------------------------------------- Aerobatic-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sun 02/16/03: 3 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 01:01 AM - Re: aerobatics in cessna 172 (C. Rabaut) 2. 01:02 AM - Re: Roll in a 150 (matsuhisa bigdong) 3. 01:35 AM - My Apologies for Recent List Mis-Use... (Matt Dralle) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 01:01:02 AM PST US From: "C. Rabaut" Subject: Re: Aerobatic-List: aerobatics in cessna 172 --> Aerobatic-List message posted by: "C. Rabaut" Kyle, You beat me to the punch. This is definitely an ARCHIVE item!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Chuck ----- Original Message ----- From: Kyle Boatright Subject: Re: Aerobatic-List: aerobatics in cessna 172 > --> Aerobatic-List message posted by: "Kyle Boatright" > > Are you trying for suicide by airplane, or maybe you'd like to win a Darwin > award? Looping or rolling a C-172 is possible, but NOT RECOMMENDED. If you > saw 175 knots or lost 2500 ft trying a roll, you were damned close to > killing yourself. > > If you want to do aerobatics, get training and only do acro in the > appropriate equipment. > > Not only are you risking your life, but imagine the lawsuit when the C-172 > comes apart. Every relative or dependant you've ever had will come out of > the woodwork and sue the FBO or whoever owned the C-172, regardless of what > the accident report shows. Does the airplane owner deserve this? > > Also, if you did hit 175 knots in the C-172, it needs to be inspected for > structural damage. You may have already damaged it sufficiently that it > shouldn't fly again. Tell the FBO. Do you want to be responsible for > someone else getting killed in it? > > I hope this is a troll. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Tony Manapat" > To: > Subject: Aerobatic-List: aerobatics in cessna 172 > > > > --> Aerobatic-List message posted by: "Tony Manapat" > > > > > i was watching espn2 and they had aerobatic performers flying planes. i > just got my pvt in january this year and would like to know a few things. > > > > how hard do you pull on the controls to perform a loop? I have been > renting a 172 and with a firm pull i was able to get the plane to go 90 > upward, but it shook a bit and i was afraid to try to get it to finish the > loop because it slowed down so much. > > > > Also, how much altitude do you lose in one complete roll of the the plane. > I started at 4.5 AGL and finished at about 2.0 AGL and the plane picked up a > lot of speed (175 kts). i don't remember seeing the planes on espn2 lose > that much altitude. > > > > Thanks for any help, > > TONY > > > > -- > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 01:02:19 AM PST US From: "matsuhisa bigdong" Subject: Re: Aerobatic-List: Roll in a 150 --> Aerobatic-List message posted by: "matsuhisa bigdong" Justin: Personally, I feel that a roll in a 150 is for broads/bitches/women/females.....Hell, Snap roll that fuckin 150. Outside shap it. Lomcevak it. Fuckin hang that bad boy on the prop with a torque roll. Shit, you are paying to rent the fucker, make her perform for you.... That, by the way, is the same philosophy I have for my hookers..............I am paying, They had better perform. Recently paroled, Matsuhisa ----- Original Message ----- From: "Justin" Subject: Aerobatic-List: Roll in a 150 --> Aerobatic-List message posted by: "Justin" How do you people feel about an alieron roll in a Cessna 150? I know it is fully able to do a roll. I dont know what the utilty catagory allows but if im not mistaking it allows spins in it. I know for a fact 150's dont have a problem spinning but not with flaps, why you woudl spin an airplane with the flaps down I dont know. Justin JUST A THOUGHT GUYS! -- ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 01:35:22 AM PST US warbird-list@matronics.com, cessna-list@matronics.com From: Matt Dralle Subject: Aerobatic-List: My Apologies for Recent List Mis-Use... --> Aerobatic-List message posted by: Matt Dralle Dear Listers, My apologies for the mis-use and abusive language by a recent subscriber to the Lists. I have again blocked this fellow from posting, but I'm sure he'll try subscribing again as some other address. I will try to stay on top of the List traffic and block at the first sign of mis-use. Feel free to email me directly at support@matronics.com if you see further incidents. Here's our best defense against this fellow: DO NOT RESPOND TO ANYTHING HE POSTS. I will continue to try to filter as quickly as possible. Please remember, as the List Administrator, I am asking everyone on the Lists to NOT respond to this fellow under any circumstances. I have unsubscribed his current two email addresses, and blocked any posts with these email addresses included. Again, my apologies. Matt Dralle List Administrator Matt G Dralle | Matronics | PO Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551 925-606-1001 V | 925-606-6281 F | dralle@matronics.com Email http://www.matronics.com/ WWW | Featuring Products For Aircraft There's three sides to every story, babe. There's your's; there's mine; and there's the cold, hard truth... Don Henley Long Way Home, 1982