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| Subject: | Re: Wow... Weee... Wayne |
--> Aerobatic-List message posted by: "C. Rabaut" <crabaut@coalinga.com>
Jeff,
Most of Van's planes are designed with "gentleman's aerobatics" in mind;
and the RV-4 is the best of the bunch (IMHO). The 4 will do rolls & loops
nicely/smoothly and at fairly low G's. It will also stall & spin as much as
you'd like and responses positively as soon as you're done. If you have an
inverted fuel/oil system, split S's, immelmans, cuban eights, hammerheads,
knife edges, 4 & 8 point rolls and other similar stuff are on the list &
line my 4's resume. But I save the hard stuff (like outside loops,
attempted snap rolls, inverted flat spins, and maybe someday a Lumpy Chek)
for the "real" aero-designed a/c. Go to it and have fun. dna
Chuck
Do Not Archive
----- Original Message -----
From: Jeff Williams <Tramsootru@direcway.com>
Subject: Re: Aerobatic-List: Wow... Weee... Wayne
> --> Aerobatic-List message posted by: Jeff Williams
<Tramsootru@direcway.com>
>
> Sounds like you had a blast! ;)
>
> I am thinking about buying an RV-4 for myself.. How "aerobatic" are they??
>
> Jeff
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "C. Rabaut" <crabaut@coalinga.com>
> To: <rocket-list@matronics.com>; <aerobatic-list@matronics.com>;
> <rv-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Aerobatic-List: Wow... Weee... Wayne
>
>
> > --> Aerobatic-List message posted by: "C. Rabaut" <crabaut@coalinga.com>
> >
> > Okay Guys & Gals,
> >
> > I just had my first aerobatic "lesson" from Wayne Handley in his
Extra
> 300L. I've seen him fly many times before, but never had the
> honor/opportunity to get one-on-one instruction from him. Wayne is a
GREAT
> instructor. And I apparently don't have too many engrained bad habits.
If
> you're interested go to www.waynehandley.com he's reasonably priced (for
his
> experience, skill & knowledge level) if you're located somewhere close to
> central California. God that 300L flys nice, good acceleration, quick
> roll-rate, and overall very responsive! It has all the amenities of a
> Lexus; and I thought I liked Rockets a lot. It kinda' feels like I've
been
> cheating on my best gal (my RV-4); but Hell I've gotten over "that
feeling"
> before.
> >
> > Well what can I say... Wayne says I got "okay" rolls, "almost
> perfect" loops (he showed me how to make 'em watermelons or elliptical, or
> just about any shape), good half-cubans, good stalls/spins, lousy knife
> edges, as well as so/so immelmans & split "S"es. Next time we're gonna
> work on hammerheads, inverted flat spins, out side loops, and some other
> harder negative G stuff like that... maybe even a "Lumpy Chek" if I can
get
> through/learn real snap rolls. This time, during our lunch break, we
went
> for Mexican. I had a large burrito that later kept causing me to burp
after
> anything around 4 G's (thank goodness I was flyin' back seat with the
> eyeball vents opened & the heat on).
> >
> > Okay, now I can no longer brag that "I'm completely self taught"
when
> it comes to aerobatics; but I can say I'm still learning, I'm getting
> better, and my maneuvers are crisper/cleaner. I HIGHLY recommend Wayne
> Handley and can say (now from experience) that although being self-taught
is
> cheap and not necessarily bad per se... it's definitely not the best way
to
> go. Having someone who KNOWS their stuff (as Wayne certainly does)
> accelerates the learning curve and virtually eliminates the adrenaline
> caused by the fear factor (but there's still enough adrenaline pumping so
> you can still get your fix). Take care & Take air my friends,
> >
> > Chuck
> > skinny, dumb & happy.... DNA
> >
> >
> > do not archive
> >
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Wow... Weee... Wayne |
--> Aerobatic-List message posted by: Jeff Williams <Tramsootru@direcway.com>
Chuck-
Sounds like what I'm looking for.. I'd like something a.) small b.) quick
and c.) mildly aerobatic.. I am trying to find something to build hours in..
I've got about 100 hours and need some more.. I've spent some time in a
Pitts, had a BLAST in that thing. ;)
Jeff
----- Original Message -----
From: "C. Rabaut" <crabaut@coalinga.com>
Subject: Re: Aerobatic-List: Wow... Weee... Wayne
> --> Aerobatic-List message posted by: "C. Rabaut" <crabaut@coalinga.com>
>
> Jeff,
>
> Most of Van's planes are designed with "gentleman's aerobatics" in
mind;
> and the RV-4 is the best of the bunch (IMHO). The 4 will do rolls &
loops
> nicely/smoothly and at fairly low G's. It will also stall & spin as much
as
> you'd like and responses positively as soon as you're done. If you have
an
> inverted fuel/oil system, split S's, immelmans, cuban eights, hammerheads,
> knife edges, 4 & 8 point rolls and other similar stuff are on the list &
> line my 4's resume. But I save the hard stuff (like outside loops,
> attempted snap rolls, inverted flat spins, and maybe someday a Lumpy Chek)
> for the "real" aero-designed a/c. Go to it and have fun. dna
>
> Chuck
>
>
> Do Not Archive
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Jeff Williams <Tramsootru@direcway.com>
> To: <aerobatic-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Re: Aerobatic-List: Wow... Weee... Wayne
>
>
> > --> Aerobatic-List message posted by: Jeff Williams
> <Tramsootru@direcway.com>
> >
> > Sounds like you had a blast! ;)
> >
> > I am thinking about buying an RV-4 for myself.. How "aerobatic" are
they??
> >
> > Jeff
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "C. Rabaut" <crabaut@coalinga.com>
> > To: <rocket-list@matronics.com>; <aerobatic-list@matronics.com>;
> > <rv-list@matronics.com>
> > Subject: Aerobatic-List: Wow... Weee... Wayne
> >
> >
> > > --> Aerobatic-List message posted by: "C. Rabaut"
<crabaut@coalinga.com>
> > >
> > > Okay Guys & Gals,
> > >
> > > I just had my first aerobatic "lesson" from Wayne Handley in his
> Extra
> > 300L. I've seen him fly many times before, but never had the
> > honor/opportunity to get one-on-one instruction from him. Wayne is a
> GREAT
> > instructor. And I apparently don't have too many engrained bad habits.
> If
> > you're interested go to www.waynehandley.com he's reasonably priced (for
> his
> > experience, skill & knowledge level) if you're located somewhere close
to
> > central California. God that 300L flys nice, good acceleration, quick
> > roll-rate, and overall very responsive! It has all the amenities of a
> > Lexus; and I thought I liked Rockets a lot. It kinda' feels like I've
> been
> > cheating on my best gal (my RV-4); but Hell I've gotten over "that
> feeling"
> > before.
> > >
> > > Well what can I say... Wayne says I got "okay" rolls, "almost
> > perfect" loops (he showed me how to make 'em watermelons or elliptical,
or
> > just about any shape), good half-cubans, good stalls/spins, lousy knife
> > edges, as well as so/so immelmans & split "S"es. Next time we're gonna
> > work on hammerheads, inverted flat spins, out side loops, and some other
> > harder negative G stuff like that... maybe even a "Lumpy Chek" if I can
> get
> > through/learn real snap rolls. This time, during our lunch break, we
> went
> > for Mexican. I had a large burrito that later kept causing me to burp
> after
> > anything around 4 G's (thank goodness I was flyin' back seat with the
> > eyeball vents opened & the heat on).
> > >
> > > Okay, now I can no longer brag that "I'm completely self taught"
> when
> > it comes to aerobatics; but I can say I'm still learning, I'm getting
> > better, and my maneuvers are crisper/cleaner. I HIGHLY recommend Wayne
> > Handley and can say (now from experience) that although being
self-taught
> is
> > cheap and not necessarily bad per se... it's definitely not the best way
> to
> > go. Having someone who KNOWS their stuff (as Wayne certainly does)
> > accelerates the learning curve and virtually eliminates the adrenaline
> > caused by the fear factor (but there's still enough adrenaline pumping
so
> > you can still get your fix). Take care & Take air my friends,
> > >
> > > Chuck
> > > skinny, dumb & happy.... DNA
> > >
> > >
> > > do not archive
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
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