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1. 04:35 AM - Re: Re: RV aerobatic maneuver parameters (Tedi)
2. 06:46 AM - Re: Re: RV aerobatic maneuver parameters (Tedd McHenry)
3. 07:14 AM - Re: appart from (Scott Bilinski)
4. 07:32 AM - Re: final results (Richard Basiliere)
5. 08:10 AM - Re: Decathalon (Rick Basiliere)
6. 08:45 AM - Re: Decathalon (Scott Bilinski)
7. 11:40 AM - Re: RV Acro (Neil McLeod)
8. 01:22 PM - Re: RV Acro (Scott Bilinski)
9. 08:46 PM - Re: RV Acro (Neil McLeod)
10. 10:56 PM - Re: Re: RV aerobatic maneuver parameters (Tedi)
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| Subject: | Re: RV aerobatic maneuver parameters |
Date: Mon, 2 Aug 2004 13:34:29 +0200 (\214rodkowoeuropejs...
--> Aerobatic-List message posted by: "Tedi" <f.t@wp.pl>
-------Original Message-------
From: aerobatic-list@matronics.com
Subject: Aerobatic-List: Re: RV aerobatic maneuver parameters
cut-----------
thanks for exact instructions!
That's really nice to hear that some of You are doing aerobatics and RV
resists it well.
Simply. I started looking for some quick build kit, easy to assemble, but
giving ability for some aerobatic figures.
I will ask again, what are +/- G param. of RV 4 and 6?
Is this +6 / -3 ?
What about inverted flight? Is this forbidden only due to engine?
Van writes that RV is not 'aerobatic plane', but some basic figures are
allowed.
If inverted flight is allowed - superb, because man can do some advanced
aerobatics (with low G).
Tadeusz, PL
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| Subject: | Re: RV aerobatic maneuver parameters |
--> Aerobatic-List message posted by: Tedd McHenry <tedd@vansairforce.org>
Tedi:
The RV-3, RV-4, RV-7, and RV-8 are designed for +6/-6 G at their aerobatic
gross weight (which is less than normal gross weight). There is no limitation
on inverted flight if you install inverted fuel and oil systems. The flight
test section of my RV-6 plans says,
"If the RV-6 being tested is equipped with inverted fuel and lubrication
systems, negative G testing should also be done. Although the airframe is
designed for a minimum 6 G limit, testing to about 3 or 3 1/2 negative Gs
should be enough to cover the probable stressed to be encountered."
I believe the same applies to any of the current RVs except the -9 and -10,
which are non-aerobatic models.
---
Tedd McHenry
Surrey, BC, Canada
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--> Aerobatic-List message posted by: Scott Bilinski <bilinski@kyocera-wireless.com>
Yea Im here, just started flying sport aerobatics in my RV-8a, loops and
rolls for now. Need to get spin training soon.
Scott Bilinski
Eng dept 305
Phone (858) 657-2536
Pager (858) 502-5190
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| Subject: | Re: final results |
--> Aerobatic-List message posted by: "Richard Basiliere" <BasiliereR@ci.boulder.co.us>
Good job Mark. I wish I could have seen your flights. If you see Nick
Onn and Val please tell them I said --Hi. Looks like Sukhoi rule, Cap
drool. :-)
Working on Sukhoi smoke, finicky system.
Later, Rick
>>> mark.j@yakuk.com 7/30/2004 4:17:26 PM >>>
--> Aerobatic-List message posted by: "Mark Jefferies YAK UK Ltd"
<mark.j@yakuk.com>
here they are chaps
Overall results
Provisional scores, last updated 22:30 local time (GMT + 2).
Male ranking
Rnk. Pilot Cnt. Q prog. Free 1st Un. 2nd Un. Total pp %
1 Michail Mamistov RUS 3061.4964 4510.2923 3783.2032 3672.5326
11966.0281 87.92
2 Sergey Rakhmanin RUS 3035.3316 4466.8843 3674.0876 3689.3639
11830.3358 86.92
3 Oleg Shpolyanskiy RUS 2955.2814 4484.4029 3759.1157 3570.2328
11813.7514 86.80
4 Laurent Narjoux FRA 2838.1574 4495.5194 3576.3350 3636.7635
11708.6179 86.03
5 Jean-Michel Delorme FRA 2846.9089 4540.6545 3573.6341 3588.8986
11703.1872 85.99
6 Eddy Dussau FRA 2952.5844 4387.0775 3674.7399 3566.7128
11628.5302 85.44
7 Victor Chmal RUS 2949.4070 4498.1530 3498.2279 3612.2584
11608.6393 85.29
8 Nicolas Ivanoff FRA 2837.7658 4300.3827 3626.2704 3512.4805
11439.1336 84.05
- Michael Racy IND 2874.9642 4359.2701 3550.2826 3482.7892
11392.3419 83.71
- David Martin IND 2729.6789 4227.2226 3645.7614 3375.8648
11248.8488 82.65
9 Mattieu Roulet FRA 2665.0087 4185.5182 3577.3086 3397.0320
11159.8588 82.00
10 Pierre Marmy SUI 2808.0743 4151.9572 3502.3727 3387.3144
11041.6443 81.13
11 Stephane Chantre FRA 2822.1025 4168.7936 3502.3436 3355.2874
11026.4246 81.02
12 Vladimir Popov RUS 2631.1040 4102.9252 3459.0507 3431.7569
10993.7328 80.78
13 Thomas William Cassells GBR 2785.4060 4111.3180 3412.8617
3327.5854 10851.7651 79.73
14 Vytautas Lapenas LTU 2836.3241 4120.1058 3420.4737 3287.4538
10828.0333 79.56
15 Antanas Marciukaitis LTU 2833.6964 4056.7824 3395.6746
3374.6731 10827.1301 79.55
16 Gerald Cooper GBR 2681.2496 4060.4798 3360.7437 3266.0356
10687.2591 78.53
17 Nick Onn GBR 2622.4658 3927.2859 3412.8288 3309.6429
10649.7576 78.25
18 Maurizio Costa ITA 2664.2331 4047.1999 3309.6832 3225.6199
10582.5030 77.76
- Robert Armstrong IND 2575.5285 3875.1983 3253.6371 3354.9815
10483.8169 77.03
19 Petras Jurgionis LTU 2649.6606 3989.4323 3218.9003 3186.9953
10395.3279 76.38
20 Mark Jefferies GBR 2688.4057 3881.2581 3339.0170 3170.4527
10390.7278 76.35
21 Sergio Dallan ITA 2456.5220 3938.7953 3412.3440 2934.4901
10285.6294 75.57
22 Klaus Schrodt GER 2777.1216 3331.7498 3381.3691 3319.9009
10033.0198 73.72
23 Paolo Zoppi ITA 2646.4449 3812.4382 2849.7264 3262.2698
9924.4344 72.92
24 Juan Velarde ESP 2511.3002 3676.2541 3071.4201 2703.3279
9451.0021 69.44
25 Kester Scrope GBR 2160.7051 3459.1519 3124.5934 6583.7453
48.37
26 Juan Socias ESP 2443.8768 3561.1581 2806.2475 6367.4056
46.78
27 Robert Kowalik POL 2513.5879 3655.9208 2609.3358 6265.2566
46.03
28 Hanspeter Rohner SUI 2567.2272 3690.2897 2458.3628 6148.6525
45.18
29 Anselmo Gamez ESP 2571.4383 3657.9818 2482.3118 6140.2936
45.12
30 Sergio Pla ESP 2498.2365 3505.2734 2614.3909 6119.6643 44.96
31 Guido Giraudo ITA 2460.0437 2843.2774 2759.4527 5602.7301
41.17
32 Francesco Fornabaio ITA 2362.9485 3082.2789 1838.2285
4920.5074 36.15
Female ranking
Rnk. Pilot Cnt. Q prog. Free 1st Un. 2nd Un. Total pp %
1 Svetlana Fedorenko RUS 2945.0611 4356.2795 3520.9973 3539.1172
11416.3940 83.88
2 Elena Klimovich RUS 2783.4122 4191.5281 3545.5776 3536.0368
11273.1425 82.83
3 Larisa Radosteva RUS 2734.5117 4167.5152 3478.9422 3481.2605
11127.7179 81.76
4 Pascale Alajouanine FRA 2750.7794 4134.1747 3435.7702 3416.7673
10986.7122 80.73
5 Valentina Drokina RUS 2672.3705 4092.9839 3296.7121 3208.0636
10597.7596 77.87
6 Kathel Boulanger FRA 2630.5397 3784.1584 3272.0165 3294.9354
10351.1103 76.06
7 Elena Corte ITA 2542.1398 3861.7784 2805.7204 3066.0120
9733.5108 71.52
8 Irene Pasini ITA 2347.6105 3459.3912 3042.7341 6502.1253
47.77
9 Val Rahmani GBR 2390.9906 3385.8695 2890.5788 6276.4483 46.12
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--> Aerobatic-List message posted by: Rick Basiliere <discrab@earthlink.net>
Tom, et al:
I just got back from OSH and saw Bobby Younkin fly a stock 8KCAB acro. UNBELIEVABLE.
In your face, tailslides, snaps, hammers... If I had not seen it for
my self I would not believe how well the Decathlon did. Tom, you will have a
ton of fun with yours. PS. My first...was an 8KCAB.
Ricky B
-----Original Message-----
From: N925WB1@aol.com
Subject: Re: Aerobatic-List: Decathalon
--> Aerobatic-List message posted by: N925WB1@aol.com
Tom,
If you haven't flown a Decathalon yet, you'll surely love it. I did my
first 20 hours of flight instruction in one, soloed it, and then some schmoe
pancaked it on landing. Total bummer. I was really looking forward to earning
my private certificate in that plane. Hopefully one day (when I'm finally out
of school) I'll buy one for myself. That'll be sweet.
Oh, and I too am on the list. I'm not a big contributor, more of a
listener, but encourage activity and will poke in an e-mail or two when I feel
that
my comments can be of assistance or encouragement.
-Wayne
Penniless Private Pilot and Airplane Addict
Murfreesboro, TN
In a message dated 7/30/2004 12:38:38 AM Central Daylight Time,
ThomasTholmes512@aol.com writes:
Yes, but I'm new to the list. Have a Decathlon in pieces, but coming
together.
Tom
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--> Aerobatic-List message posted by: Scott Bilinski <bilinski@kyocera-wireless.com>
How did you like that out side snap at about 500 AGL! Scared the crap out
of me!
At 09:10 AM 8/2/2004 -0600, you wrote:
>--> Aerobatic-List message posted by: Rick Basiliere <discrab@earthlink.net>
>
>Tom, et al:
>I just got back from OSH and saw Bobby Younkin fly a stock 8KCAB
>acro. UNBELIEVABLE. In your face, tailslides, snaps, hammers... If I
>had not seen it for my self I would not believe how well the Decathlon
>did. Tom, you will have a ton of fun with yours. PS. My first...was an 8KCAB.
>Ricky B
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: N925WB1@aol.com
>To: aerobatic-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Re: Aerobatic-List: Decathalon
>
>--> Aerobatic-List message posted by: N925WB1@aol.com
>
>
>Tom,
>
>If you haven't flown a Decathalon yet, you'll surely love it. I did my
>first 20 hours of flight instruction in one, soloed it, and then some schmoe
>pancaked it on landing. Total bummer. I was really looking forward to
>earning
>my private certificate in that plane. Hopefully one day (when I'm
>finally out
>of school) I'll buy one for myself. That'll be sweet.
>
>Oh, and I too am on the list. I'm not a big contributor, more of a
>listener, but encourage activity and will poke in an e-mail or two when I
>feel that
>my comments can be of assistance or encouragement.
>
>-Wayne
>Penniless Private Pilot and Airplane Addict
>Murfreesboro, TN
>
>In a message dated 7/30/2004 12:38:38 AM Central Daylight Time,
>ThomasTholmes512@aol.com writes:
>
>Yes, but I'm new to the list. Have a Decathlon in pieces, but coming
>together.
>Tom
>
>
Scott Bilinski
Eng dept 305
Phone (858) 657-2536
Pager (858) 502-5190
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--> Aerobatic-List message posted by: "Neil McLeod" <bedrock@theriver.com>
I, for one, would like to hear about your experiences, I'm building a RV-7
with inverted systems.
Neil McLeod
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-aerobatic-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-aerobatic-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
CBRxxDRV@aol.com
Subject: Re: Aerobatic-List: RV Acro
--> Aerobatic-List message posted by: CBRxxDRV@aol.com
In a message dated 8/1/04 4:32:59 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
racaldwell@hotmail.com writes:
> I missed the question about RV aerobatics. I built & have a RV-6 and also
a
>
> One Design and fly aerobatics in both. If someone wants some ideas of
these
> planes, let me know & I'll discuss my experiences. Or come to Central Fl &
> go flying with me.
>
***Lurk mode off ***
Central FL :)
Sal Capra
Lakeland, FL
My Home Page
http://hometown.aol.com/cbrxxdrv/index.html
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--> Aerobatic-List message posted by: Scott Bilinski <bilinski@kyocera-wireless.com>
The best information I have seen is in the back of the builders manual.
At 11:39 AM 8/2/2004 -0700, you wrote:
>--> Aerobatic-List message posted by: "Neil McLeod" <bedrock@theriver.com>
>
>I, for one, would like to hear about your experiences, I'm building a RV-7
>with inverted systems.
>
>Neil McLeod
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-aerobatic-list-server@matronics.com
>[mailto:owner-aerobatic-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
>CBRxxDRV@aol.com
>To: aerobatic-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Re: Aerobatic-List: RV Acro
>
>--> Aerobatic-List message posted by: CBRxxDRV@aol.com
>
>In a message dated 8/1/04 4:32:59 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
>racaldwell@hotmail.com writes:
>
>
> > I missed the question about RV aerobatics. I built & have a RV-6 and also
>a
> >
> > One Design and fly aerobatics in both. If someone wants some ideas of
>these
> > planes, let me know & I'll discuss my experiences. Or come to Central Fl &
>
> > go flying with me.
> >
>
>***Lurk mode off ***
>
>Central FL :)
>
>
>Sal Capra
>Lakeland, FL
> My Home Page
>http://hometown.aol.com/cbrxxdrv/index.html
>
>
Scott Bilinski
Eng dept 305
Phone (858) 657-2536
Pager (858) 502-5190
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--> Aerobatic-List message posted by: Neil McLeod <neilmcleod@direcway.com>
Yep, I've read that. I'd still like to hear the thoughts folks with
aerobatic experience both RV's and other types of aerobatic planes and any
comparisons they would like to make. I realize that the RV series is not
intended to be as aerobaticly capable as the One Design.
Neil
----- Original Message -----
From: "Scott Bilinski" <bilinski@kyocera-wireless.com>
Subject: RE: Aerobatic-List: RV Acro
> --> Aerobatic-List message posted by: Scott Bilinski
<bilinski@kyocera-wireless.com>
>
> The best information I have seen is in the back of the builders manual.
>
>
> At 11:39 AM 8/2/2004 -0700, you wrote:
> >--> Aerobatic-List message posted by: "Neil McLeod"
<bedrock@theriver.com>
> >
> >I, for one, would like to hear about your experiences, I'm building a
RV-7
> >with inverted systems.
> >
> >Neil McLeod
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: owner-aerobatic-list-server@matronics.com
> >[mailto:owner-aerobatic-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
> >CBRxxDRV@aol.com
> >To: aerobatic-list@matronics.com
> >Subject: Re: Aerobatic-List: RV Acro
> >
> >--> Aerobatic-List message posted by: CBRxxDRV@aol.com
> >
> >In a message dated 8/1/04 4:32:59 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
> >racaldwell@hotmail.com writes:
> >
> >
> > > I missed the question about RV aerobatics. I built & have a RV-6 and
also
> >a
> > >
> > > One Design and fly aerobatics in both. If someone wants some ideas of
> >these
> > > planes, let me know & I'll discuss my experiences. Or come to Central
Fl &
> >
> > > go flying with me.
> > >
> >
> >***Lurk mode off ***
> >
> >Central FL :)
> >
> >
> >Sal Capra
> >Lakeland, FL
> > My Home Page
> >http://hometown.aol.com/cbrxxdrv/index.html
> >
> >
>
>
> Scott Bilinski
> Eng dept 305
> Phone (858) 657-2536
> Pager (858) 502-5190
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: RV aerobatic maneuver parameters |
Date: Tue, 3 Aug 2004 07:56:25 +0200 (\214rodkowoeuropejs...
--> Aerobatic-List message posted by: "Tedi" <f.t@wp.pl>
ooo
:-o
I have to get it! (RV)
Tedi, PL
ps. of course -3,5 is ok. I made -4,5 on MDM-Fox but it was training.
-------Original Message-------
From: aerobatic-list@matronics.com
Subject: Re: Aerobatic-List: Re: RV aerobatic maneuver parameters
--> Aerobatic-List message posted by: Tedd McHenry <tedd@vansairforce.org>
Tedi:
The RV-3, RV-4, RV-7, and RV-8 are designed for +6/-6 G at their aerobatic
gross weight
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