---------------------------------------------------------- Aerobatic-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Thu 08/05/04: 2 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 07:07 AM - remove (Scott Tanner) 2. 08:00 AM - Re: Yak-List: Tail Slides (Richard Basiliere) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 07:07:36 AM PST US From: "Scott Tanner" Subject: Aerobatic-List: remove 1.2 MIME_HTML_MOSTLY BODY: Multipart message mostly text/html MIME --> Aerobatic-List message posted by: "Scott Tanner" ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 08:00:30 AM PST US From: "Richard Basiliere" Subject: Aerobatic-List: Re: Yak-List: Tail Slides --> Aerobatic-List message posted by: "Richard Basiliere" Egon; First...good for you. Does that fill your hangar or are there to be others? Tailslides, ahhhh! I was trained in my -52 (also -55 and SU-29) by Azat Zaydullin, Ukraine National Champ with 1000's of -52 hours. We did tailslides, I believe the manual was shown to me to indicate "All Aresti maneuver" are acceptable in the -52, the tailslides both wheels up and wheels down are listed in Aresti. The key, same in the Sukhoi, is to "freeze" the controls as the slide initiates and absolutely- positively do not allow the controls to be slammed around during the slide. This will take some effort at least initially until you learn the pressures that will occur trying to rip the stick out of your hands sometimes. When ailerons and rudder are not perfectly centered and elevator is not forced to remain against the stop. I was also taught three tumbles (gyroscopics) in the -52, also flying backwards somewhat during the tumble. Lomcevak, Abra-ca-dab-ra, Adel Weiss. The -52 tolerates "Ulimited" figures well also prop @ 100% (I know that gives some of you chills - and I respect that). An authoritative source here in the US, I would say, is Nikolay Timofeev. As an Aeronautical Engineer and as Russian three time World Champion with at least 100's of -52 hours I would listen to him (as I do RE:my SU-29). His e-mail niktim@earthlink.net Also a great one to teach you proper tailslides or whatever, and available from FL. You'll love the -52, do it all, get the best dual, make sure there is nothing besides you and what clothes you decide to wear (pockets totally empty) inside prior to any acro. Oh yes, learn all the emergency recoveries, flat spins et al. You will not - for sure - flat spin out of any tailslides. Why? Because, other than landing and power off spins, the other time ALL power is removed (prior to slide). No power - no flat spin. She may slide more or less depending on technique but will always "play lawn dart" sooner or later with that M14P on the front. Any power left on at the time of slide makes her torque and not a pretty slide. Respectfully, Rick B Comments? Mark - you there? >>> egon@hinet.net.au 8/4/2004 11:03:43 PM >>> --> Yak-List message posted by: "egon" Gday all! I have just purchased a Yak 52 to keep my CJ company in the hangar and to feel twice as insulted the next time there is a Yak vs CJ discussion! Seriously though, one of the Yak manuals I have has several question marks next to tail slides under the Aerobatics section. What is the consensus amongst you Yak 52 gurus out there? Are tail slides ok or not? Thanks in advance. Egon. P.S. Life sucks, dont it?