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Yes John, it is very quiet, and has been that way for some time. No
one 'chats' about acro, all the secrets are very secret.....
I fly comp aero's in my RV-4 at Sportsman level, but have done one comp
at Intermediate. I believe there is a guy in the US that flies
Intermediate in an RV-8 (I'm in Australia). Most RVs (not a -9) will
walk through Sportsman if flown right. The low drag and relatively
slow roll rate can be a problem though. Be very aware of speed build
up when nose low, and 45=B0 down lines are steep! I try and keep the
speed back below 140KIAS, as above that the roll rate seems to decrease
and the forces go up. I use mid power, about 20"MAP for most normal
acro, only using full power when going vertical, but also go back to
idle when going down hill. This is very different than flying a Pitts,
so beware 'good' advice from traditional acro aircraft pilots. Try and
get some instruction from someone used to clean aircarft, say
ex-military jet trainer or similar.
The RV-4 and -6 feel very similar to me, the -7 I flew felt heavier in
the controls. I haven't flown an -8, but cannot see why it would not
be suitable either. I think it is more about getting good advice and
practice so you are very familiar with your aircraft. You can get
through Sportsman without inverted fuel and oil systems, but it means
you can't draw long inverted lines or do really s-l-o-w rolls.
I'm happy to talk more if you need to.
Grant Piper
RV-4 VH-PIO
2006 Australian Sportsman Champion
----- Original Message -----
From: DrJSherm@aol.com
To: aerobatic-list@matronics.com
Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2007 3:16 PM
Subject: Aerobatic-List: ANYBODY DOING IT?
I see NO activity on this site...considering an RV, and would like to
see some info on current activity....Chute info, maneuver criteria,
....I would hope to engage in basic aerobatics if I buy such an
A/C...what's going on in 2007???? JOHN SHERM, Wilmington, NC
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20MP but what RPM(s) for entry into ? maneuvers?
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From: "Grant Piper" <grant.piper@bigpond.com>
Yes John, it is very quiet, and has been that way for some time. No one 'chats'
about acro, all the secrets are very secret.....
I fly comp aero's in my RV-4 at Sportsman level, but have done one comp at Intermediate.
I believe there is a guy in the US that flies Intermediate in an RV-8
(I'm in Australia). Most RVs (not a -9) will walk through Sportsman if flown
right. The low drag and relatively slow roll rate can be a problem though.
Be very aware of speed build up when nose low, and 45 down lines are steep!
I try and keep the speed back below 140KIAS, as above that the roll rate
seems to decrease and the forces go up. I use mid power, about 20"MAP for most
normal acro, only using full power when going vertical, but also go back to
idle when going down hill. This is very different than flying a Pitts, so
beware 'good' advice from traditional acro aircraft pilots. Try and get some
instruction from someone used to clean aircarft, say ex-military jet trainer
or similar.
The RV-4 and -6 feel very similar to me, the -7 I flew felt heavier in the controls.
I haven't flown an -8, but cannot see why it would not be suitable either.
I think it is more about getting good advice and practice so you are very
familiar with your aircraft. You can get through Sportsman without inverted
fuel and oil systems, but it means you can't draw long inverted lines or do
really s-l-o-w rolls.
I'm happy to talk more if you need to.
Grant Piper
RV-4 VH-PIO
2006 Australian Sportsman Champion
----- Original Message -----
From: DrJSherm@aol.com
Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2007 3:16 PM
Subject: Aerobatic-List: ANYBODY DOING IT?
I see NO activity on this site...considering an RV, and would like to see some
info on current activity....Chute info, maneuver criteria, ....I would hope to
engage in basic aerobatics if I buy such an A/C...what's going on in 2007????
JOHN SHERM, Wilmington, NC
href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Aerobatic-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Aerobatic-List
href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com
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<DIV>20MP but what RPM(s) for entry into ? maneuvers?</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2>Yes John, it is very quiet, and has been that way for some time.
No one 'chats' about acro, all the secrets are very secret.....</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2>I fly comp aero's in my RV-4 at Sportsman level, but have done
one comp at Intermediate. I believe there is a guy in the US that
flies Intermediate in an RV-8 (I'm in Australia). Most RVs (not
a -9) will walk through Sportsman if flown right. The low drag and
relatively slow roll rate can be a problem though. Be very aware
of speed build up when nose low, and 45 down lines are steep! I try
and keep the speed back below 140KIAS, as above that the roll rate seems to
decrease and the forces go up. I use mid power, about 20"MAP for most
normal acro, only using full power when going vertical, but also go back to
idle when going down hill. This is very different than flying a
Pitts, so beware 'good' advice from traditional acro aircraft pilots.
Try and get some instruction from someone used to clean aircarft, say ex-military
jet trainer or similar.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>The RV-4 and -6 feel very similar to me, the -7 I flew felt heavier
in the controls. I haven't flown an -8, but cannot see why
it would not be suitable either. I think it is more about getting
good advice and practice so you are very familiar with your aircraft.
You can get through Sportsman without inverted fuel and oil systems, but it
means you can't draw long inverted lines or do really s-l-o-w rolls.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>I'm happy to talk more if you need to.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Grant Piper</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>RV-4 VH-PIO</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>2006 Australian Sportsman Champion</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=aerobatic-list@matronics.com href="mailto:aerobatic-list@matronics.com">aerobatic-list@matronics.com</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, February 13, 2007 3:16 PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Aerobatic-List: ANYBODY DOING IT?</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV><STRONG>I see NO activity on this site...considering an RV, and
would like to see some info on current activity....Chute info, maneuver criteria,
....I would hope to engage in basic aerobatics if I buy such an A/C...what's
going on in 2007???? JOHN SHERM, Wilmington, NC</STRONG> <PRE><B><FONT face="courier
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href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com</A>
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I have a FP wood prop, so its about 24-2500 for me. You can loop,
barrell roll, slow roll stall turn anywhere from 110-140KIAS. Roilling
manoeuvres above 140 get hard to do nicely due to high forces.
Grant
----- Original Message -----
From: lucky
To: aerobatic-list@matronics.com
Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2007 11:07 PM
Subject: Re: Aerobatic-List: ANYBODY DOING IT?
20MP but what RPM(s) for entry into ? maneuvers?
-------------- Original message --------------
From: "Grant Piper" <grant.piper@bigpond.com>
Yes John, it is very quiet, and has been that way for some time.
No one 'chats' about acro, all the secrets are very secret.....
I fly comp aero's in my RV-4 at Sportsman level, but have done one
comp at Intermediate. I believe there is a guy in the US that flies
Intermediate in an RV-8 (I'm in Australia). Most RVs (not a -9) will
walk through Sportsman if flown right. The low drag and relatively
slow roll rate can be a problem though. Be very aware of speed build
up when nose low, and 45=B0 down lines are steep! I try and keep the
speed back below 140KIAS, as above that the roll rate seems to decrease
and the forces go up. I use mid power, about 20"MAP for most normal
acro, only using full power when going vertical, but also go back to
idle when going down hill. This is very different than flying a Pitts,
so beware 'good' advice from traditional acro aircraft pilots. Try and
get some instruction from someone used to clean aircarft, say
ex-military jet trainer or similar.
The RV-4 and -6 feel very similar to me, the -7 I flew felt heavier
in the controls. I haven't flown an -8, but cannot see why it would
not be suitable either. I think it is more about getting good advice
and practice so you are very familiar with your aircraft. You can get
through Sportsman without inverted fuel and oil systems, but it means
you can't draw long inverted lines or do really s-l-o-w rolls.
I'm happy to talk more if you need to.
Grant Piper
RV-4 VH-PIO
2006 Australian Sportsman Champion
----- Original Message -----
From: DrJSherm@aol.com
To: aerobatic-list@matronics.com
Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2007 3:16 PM
Subject: Aerobatic-List: ANYBODY DOING IT?
I see NO activity on this site...considering an RV, and would like
to see some info on current activity....Chute info, maneuver criteria,
....I would hope to engage in basic aerobatics if I buy such an
A/C...what's going on in 2007???? JOHN SHERM, Wilmington, NC
href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Aerobatic-List">http://www.mat
ronics.com/Navigator?Aerobatic-List
href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com
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