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2. 07:37 AM - Re: extra (Robert Taylor)
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5. 11:37 AM - Re: Re: extra (Peter Pengilly)
6. 12:56 PM - Re: extra (raddatz)
7. 01:07 PM - Re: Re: extra (Monty Barrett Sr)
8. 02:17 PM - Re: Re: Aerobatic-List Digest: 0 Msgs - 11/28/07 (Gilles Thesee)
9. 04:34 PM - Re: extra (raddatz)
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Just bought an Extra, Most fun I ever had flying but it takes a little getting
use to the landings.
Steve Raddatz
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Steve,
Can you elaborate? What is it about the landings that takes getting used
to? What did you fly before? Just curious.
Bob
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From: "raddatz" <n667sr@comcast.net>
Sent: Friday, February 08, 2008 9:45 AM
Subject: Aerobatic-List: extra
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> Just bought an Extra, Most fun I ever had flying but it takes a little
> getting use to the landings.
> Steve Raddatz
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> Read this topic online here:
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> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=162994#162994
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I have got over 600 hours in RV's with 500 plus hours in taildraggers. My plane
is a Extra 260 with the mid wing design. so when I'm on final I lose site of
the runway at any speed under 80kts due to the angle of attack so what I have
learned is to slip my landing from downwind right to the numbers and that seems
to work well. But its still work in progress.
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Excellent! That's exactly the information I was looking for. Thank you!
Bob
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From: "raddatz" <n667sr@comcast.net>
Sent: Friday, February 08, 2008 10:49 AM
Subject: Aerobatic-List: Re: extra
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> I have got over 600 hours in RV's with 500 plus hours in taildraggers. My
> plane is a Extra 260 with the mid wing design. so when I'm on final I lose
> site of the runway at any speed under 80kts due to the angle of attack so
> what I have learned is to slip my landing from downwind right to the
> numbers and that seems to work well. But its still work in progress.
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=163004#163004
>
>
>
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Steve,
I had a mid wing 300 for a while. The best technique I found was to fly
a curving approach if at all possible, and convert that to a large slip
as I lined up on final, with plenty of power. I held the slip to the
absolute last minute (probably 20' or below), straightened up, cut the
power and landed. On take off I would leave the ground at 80kt in the 3
point attitude, so I approached at 80kt. Any more and I would float down
the runway completely blind. I want to know that the airplane would land
as soon as I shut the throttle. Kicking off the slip was enough to give
a little 'flare' to stop the rate of descent. Speed control +2kt -0 on
final was key to a good landing, at light weights I could get it down to
75kt without arriving too much tailwheel first. Using this technique I
did land on a 900ft runway one day with plenty to spare (but there was a
25kt wind blowing) - the alternative was 25kt across 1800' or land 25
miles away! Once on the ground I would pick the tail up so I could see
where I was going and could brake quite heavily controlling the attitude
with the elevator down to about 20 kt.
Hope this helps, Peter
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[mailto:owner-aerobatic-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of raddatz
Sent: 08 February 2008 15:49
Subject: Aerobatic-List: Re: extra
I have got over 600 hours in RV's with 500 plus hours in taildraggers.
My plane is a Extra 260 with the mid wing design. so when I'm on final I
lose site of the runway at any speed under 80kts due to the angle of
attack so what I have learned is to slip my landing from downwind right
to the numbers and that seems to work well. But its still work in
progress.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=163004#163004
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Peter that is beautiful, I also stand the tail during rollout. Thanks for the info
I'm also landing at my airpark which is narrow for a blind landing, but its
progressing nicely.
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You guys all need some Cessna 195 time. Talk about BLIND--------
Monty Barrett
C-195
Pitts 12
Former Skybolt
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From: owner-aerobatic-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-aerobatic-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Peter
Pengilly
Sent: Friday, February 08, 2008 1:25 PM
Subject: RE: Aerobatic-List: Re: extra
<peter@sportingaero.com>
Steve,
I had a mid wing 300 for a while. The best technique I found was to fly
a curving approach if at all possible, and convert that to a large slip
as I lined up on final, with plenty of power. I held the slip to the
absolute last minute (probably 20' or below), straightened up, cut the
power and landed. On take off I would leave the ground at 80kt in the 3
point attitude, so I approached at 80kt. Any more and I would float down
the runway completely blind. I want to know that the airplane would land
as soon as I shut the throttle. Kicking off the slip was enough to give
a little 'flare' to stop the rate of descent. Speed control +2kt -0 on
final was key to a good landing, at light weights I could get it down to
75kt without arriving too much tailwheel first. Using this technique I
did land on a 900ft runway one day with plenty to spare (but there was a
25kt wind blowing) - the alternative was 25kt across 1800' or land 25
miles away! Once on the ground I would pick the tail up so I could see
where I was going and could brake quite heavily controlling the attitude
with the elevator down to about 20 kt.
Hope this helps, Peter
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-aerobatic-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-aerobatic-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of raddatz
Sent: 08 February 2008 15:49
Subject: Aerobatic-List: Re: extra
I have got over 600 hours in RV's with 500 plus hours in taildraggers.
My plane is a Extra 260 with the mid wing design. so when I'm on final I
lose site of the runway at any speed under 80kts due to the angle of
attack so what I have learned is to slip my landing from downwind right
to the numbers and that seems to work well. But its still work in
progress.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=163004#163004
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| Subject: | Re: Aerobatic-List Digest: 0 Msgs - 11/28/07 |
Dan Farmer a crit :
> I am new to this site. Can anyone tell me anything about a CAP10 B?
>
> *//*
What do you want to know about the CAP 10 B ?
Nice airplane with beautifully harmonized controls.
Logged about 500-600 hrs in it, almost 98 % aerobatics.
Best regards,
--
Gilles
http://contrails.free.fr
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Monty you could mount a video camera under the wing and a tv screen in the panel
and still not affect useful load.
Monty, I'm going to put a full Slick ignition system on my extra 260 which has
a 315hp IO-540 that you built, What model slick mag would you use because it has
23* degree bendix on it now and would you install duel impulse mags.
Steve Raddatz
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