---------------------------------------------------------- AeroElectric-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Tue 01/21/03: 23 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 06:34 AM - Totally Electric Dependent RV-7 (Tom Parks) 2. 07:38 AM - Re: pre-heaters (Rob Logan) 3. 07:38 AM - (Gary Casey) 4. 07:42 AM - aux fuel transfer done light. (Rob Logan) 5. 09:13 AM - unsuscribe (nknobil@gwi.net) 6. 09:39 AM - Re: unsuscribe (SportAV8R@aol.com) 7. 12:03 PM - Re: unsuscribe (Peter Spear) 8. 02:36 PM - Wire Sizing Questions (Shannon Knoepflein) 9. 03:26 PM - Re: unsuscribe (Jim Jewell) 10. 03:46 PM - Re: unsuscribe (RSwanson) 11. 03:54 PM - Re: unsuscribe (Matt Prather) 12. 04:43 PM - Re: unsuscribe (Mike) 13. 04:45 PM - Re: unsuscribe (RSwanson) 14. 05:05 PM - Aux and Main Battery Bus for RV-7 (Tom Parks) 15. 05:26 PM - Re: unsuscribe (Jim Jewell) 16. 06:19 PM - Wire Size.... (Benford2@aol.com) 17. 07:37 PM - Re: unsuscribe (Cy Galley) 18. 08:25 PM - Off line for a time . . . (Robert L. Nuckolls, III) 19. 08:49 PM - Re: Off line for a time . . . (Larry Bowen) 20. 09:16 PM - Re: Off line for a time . . . (Jim Jewell) 21. 09:48 PM - Re: Wire Size.... (Shannon Knoepflein) 22. 10:02 PM - wire size and redundant spark (Benford2@aol.com) 23. 10:19 PM - Wing tip strobes. (Rob W M Shipley) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 06:34:07 AM PST US From: "Tom Parks" Subject: AeroElectric-List: Totally Electric Dependent RV-7 --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Tom Parks" Bob! I'm building a RV-7 which will have Powersport Aviation's Rotary Power Aircraft Engine as its powerplant. I'm into the wiring of the aircraft using your Z-11a design (two batteries 18 amp each and one 60 amp alternator) and using your LVMM and OVM. The engine is a two rotor design with two separate ECU's(one per rotor) and two electric fuel pumps(one on at all times). Which battery bus would you recommend powering the ECU's and fuel pumps from? Appreciate any comments you might offer. regards Tom Parks RV-7 N620CF ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 07:38:43 AM PST US From: Rob Logan Subject: AeroElectric-List: Re: pre-heaters --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Rob Logan > I've been researched engine pre-heaters. There is a graph of how long it takes to heat in http://rob.com/cht/oil/ -- Utopian Maturity: Eternity, Liberty, Equality and now Fraternity & Altruism. ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 07:38:51 AM PST US From: "Gary Casey" Subject: AeroElectric-List: --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Gary Casey" <> Agreed. Just to add a little, my system (probably any system that drives an inductive ignition) creates very sharp current transients on the supply line when it shuts off a coil. These current transients can conceivably create voltage transients that propagate throughout the electrical system. I have found no problems with any other automotive system and also haven't seen a problem in an aircraft environment. A much larger conducted noise source is probably the alternator. The large diodes don't conduct immediately when forward biased and create very narrow, but high amplitude voltage transients. In applying our pressure sensors to automotive applications this seems to be the most severe source of conducted noise. This tends to show up every time the customer bolts on a higher-current alternator, with diesel trucks seeming to be the biggest offenders. The offending frequency spectrum seems to be between 100 and 150 mHz. And this is all CONDUCTED noise, not RADIATED. Gary Casey ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 07:42:25 AM PST US From: Rob Logan Subject: AeroElectric-List: aux fuel transfer done light. --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Rob Logan I have a center aux tank that transfers into the left wing with a cessna diaphragm fuel pump. ( http://ppavionics.com/FuelPump.htm would have been better with its built in check valve ) It would be nice to have a light come on when its DONE transferring all the fuel.. The pump draws .65 to .70 amps dry and .88 to .92 amps while pumping fuel through my system at 13.8V ( in-flight it will see 14.2V ) Tried to design a comparator circuit watching a shunt and my reference voltage to turn on a light, but the pump pulses cause too much noise for it to work. ( http://ppavionics.com/XFR.htm counts the pulses and stops the pump when the freq changes ) The next thought was to use a H-bridge SCR motor controller that has built in current sensor.. (used for gripers in stepper motors) but that was getting too complicated. or mount a small amp meter like: http://www.allelectronics.com/cgi-bin/category.cgi?category=385&item=PMD-1A http://www.bach-simpson.com/wilbac02.htm http://www.surplussales.com/Meters/MtrDCAmps.html and glance down at it to see if the needle dropped, but I'd prefer to have a light... how do I invert the amp drop to drive a light? -- Utopian Maturity: Eternity, Liberty, Equality and now Fraternity & Altruism. ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 09:13:29 AM PST US From: "nknobil@gwi.net" Subject: AeroElectric-List: unsuscribe --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "nknobil@gwi.net" unsuscribe ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 09:39:23 AM PST US From: SportAV8R@aol.com Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: unsuscribe --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: SportAV8R@aol.com In a message dated 01/21/2003 12:14:11 PM Eastern Standard Time, nknobil@gwi.net writes: > --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "nknobil@gwi.net" > > unsuscribe > Nice try, but you have to spell it using _all_ the letters ;-) do not archive ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 12:03:40 PM PST US From: "Peter Spear" Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: unsuscribe --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Peter Spear" >I didn't type unsuscribe!!! I don't even use spell check as spelling is one of my forte's. You should in fact check your automated unsuscribe/suscribe system before sending out your smiley note - the error is yours and I wish to unsuscribe. smiles - peter -> AeroElectric-List message posted by: SportAV8R@aol.com > > In a message dated 01/21/2003 12:14:11 PM Eastern Standard > Time, nknobil@gwi.net writes: > > > --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "nknobil@gwi.net" > > > > unsuscribe > > > > Nice try, but you have to spell it using _all_ the letters > ;-) > > do not archive > > This forum is sponsored entirely through the Contributions > with other List members. aeroelectric-list@matronics.com > List FAQ: http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/AeroElectric-List.htm > Browse: http://www.matronics.com/browse/aeroelectric-list -- Peter ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 02:36:33 PM PST US From: "Shannon Knoepflein" Subject: AeroElectric-List: Wire Sizing Questions --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Shannon Knoepflein" Ok, time to order some wire. If anyone recalls, I'm building a Lancair Legacy with a Z14 system. My load analysis spreadsheet is published at http://shannon.v8eaters.com/images/lancair/ Now my question is for wire sizing for the main buss feeds from the batteries to the instrument panel. My batteries, dual 17ah, are behind the seat. From my spreadsheet, I show a total MAX possible load of 73.4A on the Main Buss, and a total MAX possible load on the Aux Buss as 26.2A. These are MAX ratings, ie, if everything was on at the same time, all sucking max power.....basically, never gonna happen. Now, I have the loads configured for the different segments of flight, and I show the continuous ratings on each buss to be 45.4A and 19.7A respectively. Main Buss 45.4A Aux/Ess Buss 19.7A Also, my alternators are 70A and 35A respectively, just for info. So, I have batteries behind the seat, battery contactors at the batteries, and my starter and crossfeed contactors on the firewall, so I need main power wires to run from battery to firewall, about 10' in length. The amperage leads me to 4 gauge, which is good for 72A. So, that works out to 10' of it having a 0.113 voltage drop on the Main, and 0.049 on the Aux/Ess, at normal loads. Sound good? My only concern is when or if I was ever at MAX possible load, but I don't even think this is an issue, being it is only at 73.4A? Can I run a single common ground of 2 gauge for both busses? Last question....when running the 10 gauge for my Ess Buss Alternate Feed, I'm figuring a 0.22 volt drop on it just due to the wire, not including the drop across the diode (one of Eric's Super Diodes). This could be up around 1.0 volt total drop. Is this too much? --- Shannon Knoepflein <---> kycshann@kyol.net ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 03:26:14 PM PST US From: "Jim Jewell" Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: unsuscribe --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Jim Jewell" Try "unsubscribe", that is unsu 'b' scribe sir :)! Jim in Kelowna do not archive ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Spear" Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: unsuscribe > --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Peter Spear" > > >I didn't type unsuscribe!!! I don't even use spell check as spelling > is one of my forte's. You should in fact check your automated > unsuscribe/suscribe system before sending out your smiley note - the error is > yours and I wish to unsuscribe. smiles - -> > AeroElectric-List message posted by: SportAV8R@aol.com > > > > In a message dated 01/21/2003 12:14:11 PM Eastern Standard > > Time, nknobil@gwi.net writes: > > > > > --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "nknobil@gwi.net" > > > > > > unsuscribe > > > > > > > Nice try, but you have to spell it using _all_ the letters > > ;-) > > > > do not archive > > > > This forum is sponsored entirely through the Contributions > > with other List members. > aeroelectric-list@matronics.com > > List FAQ: http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/AeroElectric-List.htm > > Browse: http://www.matronics.com/browse/aeroelectric-list > > > -- > > Peter > > ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 03:46:33 PM PST US From: RSwanson Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: unsuscribe --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: RSwanson And you might try the correct email address, too. R ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Jewell" Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: unsuscribe > --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Jim Jewell" > > Try "unsubscribe", that is unsu 'b' scribe sir :)! > > > Jim in Kelowna > > do not archive > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Peter Spear" > To: > Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: unsuscribe > > > > --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Peter Spear" > > > > >I didn't type unsuscribe!!! I don't even use spell check as spelling > > is one of my forte's. You should in fact check your automated > > unsuscribe/suscribe system before sending out your smiley note - the error > is > > yours and I wish to unsuscribe. smiles - > -> > > AeroElectric-List message posted by: SportAV8R@aol.com > > > > > > In a message dated 01/21/2003 12:14:11 PM Eastern Standard > > > Time, nknobil@gwi.net writes: > > > > > > > --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "nknobil@gwi.net" > > > > > > > > > unsuscribe > > > > > > > > > > Nice try, but you have to spell it using _all_ the letters > > > ;-) > > > > > > do not archive > > > > > > This forum is sponsored entirely through the Contributions > > > with other List members. > > aeroelectric-list@matronics.com > > > List FAQ: http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/AeroElectric-List.htm > > > Browse: http://www.matronics.com/browse/aeroelectric-list > > > > > > -- > > > > Peter > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 03:54:15 PM PST US Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: unsuscribe From: "Matt Prather" --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Matt Prather" I am not convinced that even when spelled correctly, that sending the server an "unsubscribe" message will stop the flow of emails. I looked through the web links at the bottom and wasn't able to find reference to this procedure. It works on some servers, but I couldn't see where it would on this one. Someone may wish to educate me. Regards, Matt Prather N34RD do not archive. > --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Jim Jewell" > > > Try "unsubscribe", that is unsu 'b' scribe sir :)! > > > Jim in Kelowna > > do not archive > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Peter Spear" > To: > Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: unsuscribe > > >> --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Peter Spear" >> >> >> >I didn't type unsuscribe!!! I don't even use spell check as spelling >> is one of my forte's. You should in fact check your automated >> unsuscribe/suscribe system before sending out your smiley note - the >> error > is >> yours and I wish to unsuscribe. smiles - > -> >> AeroElectric-List message posted by: SportAV8R@aol.com >> > >> > In a message dated 01/21/2003 12:14:11 PM Eastern Standard >> > Time, nknobil@gwi.net writes: >> > >> > > --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "nknobil@gwi.net" > >> > > >> > > unsuscribe >> > > >> > >> > Nice try, but you have to spell it using _all_ the letters >> > ;-) >> > >> > do not archive >> > >> > This forum is sponsored entirely through the Contributions >> > with other List members. >> aeroelectric-list@matronics.com >> > List FAQ: http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/AeroElectric-List.htm >> > Browse: http://www.matronics.com/browse/aeroelectric-list >> >> >> -- >> >> Peter >> >> > > ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 04:43:02 PM PST US From: "Mike" Subject: RE: AeroElectric-List: unsuscribe --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Mike" Come on guys, read the bottom of each and every post and you'll see the link you need to go to subscribe/unsubscribe. Follow the directions. http://www.matronics.com/subscription Mike Nellis RV-6 Fuselage N699BM 1947 Stinson 108-2 NC9666K http://bmnellis.com > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Matt > Prather > Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2003 5:53 PM > To: aeroelectric-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: unsuscribe > > > --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Matt Prather" > > > I am not convinced that even when spelled correctly, that sending > the server > an "unsubscribe" message will stop the flow of emails. I looked through > the web > links at the bottom and wasn't able to find reference to this > procedure. It > works on some servers, but I couldn't see where it would on this one. > Someone > may wish to educate me. > > Regards, > > Matt Prather > N34RD > > do not archive. > > > --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Jim Jewell" > > > > > > Try "unsubscribe", that is unsu 'b' scribe sir :)! > > > > > > Jim in Kelowna > > > > do not archive > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Peter Spear" > > To: > > Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: unsuscribe > > > > > >> --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Peter Spear" > >> > >> > >> >I didn't type unsuscribe!!! I don't even use spell check as spelling > >> is one of my forte's. You should in fact check your automated > >> unsuscribe/suscribe system before sending out your smiley note - the > >> error > > is > >> yours and I wish to unsuscribe. smiles - > > -> > >> AeroElectric-List message posted by: SportAV8R@aol.com > >> > > >> > In a message dated 01/21/2003 12:14:11 PM Eastern Standard > >> > Time, nknobil@gwi.net writes: > >> > > >> > > --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "nknobil@gwi.net" > > > >> > > > >> > > unsuscribe > >> > > > >> > > >> > Nice try, but you have to spell it using _all_ the letters > >> > ;-) > >> > > >> > do not archive > >> > > >> > This forum is sponsored entirely through the Contributions > >> > with other List members. > >> aeroelectric-list@matronics.com > >> > List FAQ: http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/AeroElectric-List.htm > >> > Browse: http://www.matronics.com/browse/aeroelectric-list > >> > >> > >> -- > >> > >> Peter > >> > >> > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 04:45:09 PM PST US From: RSwanson Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: unsuscribe --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: RSwanson I just tried to reply to your message and it bounced with a letter starting with: WARNING WARNING WARNING ! You have sent a SUB*CRIBE or UNSU*SCRIBE request directly to the entire email list itself! Normally this request would have been sent to the hundreds of su*scribers on the email list! A special filter has been put in place to catch these requests now and your request has been forwarded to the correct email address and will be processed normally. ---snip--- I don't know how yours got through, but it works from here. R ----- Original Message ----- From: "Matt Prather" Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: unsuscribe > --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Matt Prather" > > I am not convinced that even when spelled correctly, that sending the server > an "unsu*scribe" message will stop the flow of emails. I looked through > the web > links at the bottom and wasn't able to find reference to this procedure. It > works on some servers, but I couldn't see where it would on this one. > Someone > may wish to educate me. > > Regards, > > Matt Prather > N34RD > > do not archive. > > > --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Jim Jewell" > > > > > > Try "unsubscribe", that is unsu 'b' scribe sir :)! > > > > > > Jim in Kelowna > > > > do not archive > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Peter Spear" > > To: > > Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: unsuscribe > > > > > >> --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Peter Spear" > >> > >> > >> >I didn't type unsuscribe!!! I don't even use spell check as spelling > >> is one of my forte's. You should in fact check your automated > >> unsuscribe/suscribe system before sending out your smiley note - the > >> error > > is > >> yours and I wish to unsuscribe. smiles - > > -> > >> AeroElectric-List message posted by: SportAV8R@aol.com > >> > > >> > In a message dated 01/21/2003 12:14:11 PM Eastern Standard > >> > Time, nknobil@gwi.net writes: > >> > > >> > > --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "nknobil@gwi.net" > > > >> > > > >> > > unsuscribe > >> > > > >> > > >> > Nice try, but you have to spell it using _all_ the letters > >> > ;-) > >> > > >> > do not archive > >> > > >> > This forum is sponsored entirely through the Contributions > >> > with other List members. > >> aeroelectric-list@matronics.com > >> > List FAQ: http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/AeroElectric-List.htm > >> > Browse: http://www.matronics.com/browse/aeroelectric-list > >> > >> > >> -- > >> > >> Peter > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 05:05:34 PM PST US From: "Tom Parks" Subject: AeroElectric-List: Aux and Main Battery Bus for RV-7 --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Tom Parks" Bob I'm building a RV-7 powered by Powersport Aviation's Rotary Aviation and I am starting to wire the electrical system. I'm using the z-11a layout with LVMM and OVM crowbar and (all electric configuration) with two SLA 18 amp batteries and a 60 amp internally regulated alternator furnished with the FWF engine package. The engine is a two rotor design utilizing FADEC engine control having two ECU's (one for each rotor) and two electric Bosch fuel pumps connected in parallel. First of many questions to follow: Which bus would you suggest wiring the ECU's and fuel pumps too; Aux or Main battery bus or both and why? I'm using a Aeroconnection's DPDT relay for each pump (draw/fused at 5 amps each); ECU's draw/fused at 5 amps each, Ignition coil draw/fused at 5 amps and Fuel injector supply draw/fused at 7.5 amps. Appreciate any advice/discussion you can provide and planning on attending your Ft. Worth seminar in March. regards' Tom Parks RV-7, N620CF ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 05:26:22 PM PST US From: "Jim Jewell" Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: unsuscribe --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Jim Jewell" Hi Matt, If memory serves, the "unsubscribe" should be in the subject box with nothing at all entered in the massage area. Jim in Kelowna do not archive ----- Original Message ----- From: "Matt Prather" Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: unsuscribe > --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Matt Prather" > > I am not convinced that even when spelled correctly, that sending the server > an "unsubscribe" message will stop the flow of emails. I looked through > the web > links at the bottom and wasn't able to find reference to this procedure. It > works on some servers, but I couldn't see where it would on this one. > Someone > may wish to educate me. > > Regards, > > Matt Prather > N34RD > > do not archive. > > > --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Jim Jewell" > > > > > > Try "unsubscribe", that is unsu 'b' scribe sir :)! > > > > > > Jim in Kelowna > > > > do not archive > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Peter Spear" > > To: > > Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: unsuscribe > > > > > >> --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Peter Spear" > >> > >> > >> >I didn't type unsuscribe!!! I don't even use spell check as spelling > >> is one of my forte's. You should in fact check your automated > >> unsuscribe/suscribe system before sending out your smiley note - the > >> error > > is > >> yours and I wish to unsuscribe. smiles - > > -> > >> AeroElectric-List message posted by: SportAV8R@aol.com > >> > > >> > In a message dated 01/21/2003 12:14:11 PM Eastern Standard > >> > Time, nknobil@gwi.net writes: > >> > > >> > > --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "nknobil@gwi.net" > > > >> > > > >> > > unsuscribe > >> > > > >> > > >> > Nice try, but you have to spell it using _all_ the letters > >> > ;-) > >> > > >> > do not archive > >> > > >> > This forum is sponsored entirely through the Contributions > >> > with other List members. > >> aeroelectric-list@matronics.com > >> > List FAQ: http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/AeroElectric-List.htm > >> > Browse: http://www.matronics.com/browse/aeroelectric-list > >> > >> > >> -- > >> > >> Peter > >> > >> > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 06:19:07 PM PST US From: Benford2@aol.com Subject: AeroElectric-List: Wire Size.... --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Benford2@aol.com You need to take into account the max draw for the starter. You show 72 amps max. The starter is gonna consume twice to three times that. I am runnig a V-8 Ford and my 10.3' run from the battery to the solonoid is #2 both ways. ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 07:37:33 PM PST US From: "Cy Galley" Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: unsuscribe --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Cy Galley" Try clicking on this... But you have to read and follow the directions. This link is at the bottom of ALL messages. UN/SUBSCRIBE: http://www.matronics.com/subscription ----- Original Message ----- From: "Matt Prather" Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: unsuscribe > --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Matt Prather" > > I am not convinced that even when spelled correctly, that sending the server > an "unsubscribe" message will stop the flow of emails. I looked through > the web > links at the bottom and wasn't able to find reference to this procedure. It > works on some servers, but I couldn't see where it would on this one. > Someone > may wish to educate me. > > Regards, > > Matt Prather > N34RD > > do not archive. > > > --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Jim Jewell" > > > > > > Try "unsubscribe", that is unsu 'b' scribe sir :)! > > > > > > Jim in Kelowna > > > > do not archive > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Peter Spear" > > To: > > Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: unsuscribe > > > > > >> --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Peter Spear" > >> > >> > >> >I didn't type unsuscribe!!! I don't even use spell check as spelling > >> is one of my forte's. You should in fact check your automated > >> unsuscribe/suscribe system before sending out your smiley note - the > >> error > > is > >> yours and I wish to unsuscribe. smiles - > > -> > >> AeroElectric-List message posted by: SportAV8R@aol.com > >> > > >> > In a message dated 01/21/2003 12:14:11 PM Eastern Standard > >> > Time, nknobil@gwi.net writes: > >> > > >> > > --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "nknobil@gwi.net" > > > >> > > > >> > > unsuscribe > >> > > > >> > > >> > Nice try, but you have to spell it using _all_ the letters > >> > ;-) > >> > > >> > do not archive > >> > > >> > This forum is sponsored entirely through the Contributions > >> > with other List members. > >> aeroelectric-list@matronics.com > >> > List FAQ: http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/AeroElectric-List.htm > >> > Browse: http://www.matronics.com/browse/aeroelectric-list > >> > >> > >> -- > >> > >> Peter > >> > >> > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 08:25:52 PM PST US From: "Robert L. Nuckolls, III" Subject: AeroElectric-List: Off line for a time . . . --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Robert L. Nuckolls, III" Almost-a-doctor Dee had surgery this morning to remove a kidney with a cancerous tumor growing on it. Doctors were happy with the outcome and called it a 99% chance of a cure . . . no further treatment necessary. However, she's a very unhappy camper right now. Given that about 2x more folks croak in hospitals due to medical accident than accidents on our hazardous highways, the family is providing 100% assistance/monitoring for the next few days. I'm just waiting for my Stanley full of coffee to finish perking and I'll be off to relieve my sister-in-law for the 11pm to 8am shift. Not sure how coherent I'm going to be with electrical matters in the near term but this too will pass . . . Bob . . . |-------------------------------------------------------| | The man who does not read good books has no advantage | | over the man who cannot read them. | | - Mark Twain | |-------------------------------------------------------| ________________________________ Message 19 ____________________________________ Time: 08:49:18 PM PST US From: "Larry Bowen" Subject: RE: AeroElectric-List: Off line for a time . . . --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Larry Bowen" Wish her a "get well" from everyone on the list. - Larry Bowen Larry@BowenAero.com http://BowenAero.com 2003: The year of flight! Do not archive > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com] On > Behalf Of Robert L. Nuckolls, III > Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2003 11:25 PM > To: aeroelectric-list@matronics.com > Subject: AeroElectric-List: Off line for a time . . . > > > --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Robert L. Nuckolls, III" > --> > > Almost-a-doctor Dee had surgery this morning to remove a > kidney with a cancerous tumor growing on it. Doctors were > happy with the outcome and called it a 99% chance of a cure . > . . no further treatment necessary. However, she's a very > unhappy camper right now. > > Given that about 2x more folks croak in hospitals due to > medical accident than accidents on our hazardous highways, > the family is providing 100% assistance/monitoring for the > next few days. I'm just waiting for my Stanley full of > coffee to finish perking and I'll be off to relieve my > sister-in-law for the 11pm to 8am shift. > > Not sure how coherent I'm going to be with electrical matters > in the near term but this too will pass . . . > > > Bob . . . > > |-------------------------------------------------------| > | The man who does not read good books has no advantage | > | over the man who cannot read them. | > | - Mark Twain | > |-------------------------------------------------------| > > ________________________________ Message 20 ____________________________________ Time: 09:16:16 PM PST US From: "Jim Jewell" Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: Off line for a time . . . --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Jim Jewell" The same from us up north Bob Jim do not archive ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry Bowen" Subject: RE: AeroElectric-List: Off line for a time . . . > --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Larry Bowen" > > Wish her a "get well" from everyone on the list. > > - > Larry Bowen > Larry@BowenAero.com > http://BowenAero.com > 2003: The year of flight! > Do not archive > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com > > [mailto:owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com] On > > Behalf Of Robert L. Nuckolls, III > > Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2003 11:25 PM > > To: aeroelectric-list@matronics.com > > Subject: AeroElectric-List: Off line for a time . . . > > > > > > --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Robert L. Nuckolls, III" > > --> > > > > Almost-a-doctor Dee had surgery this morning to remove a > > kidney with a cancerous tumor growing on it. Doctors were > > happy with the outcome and called it a 99% chance of a cure . > > . . no further treatment necessary. However, she's a very > > unhappy camper right now. > > > > Given that about 2x more folks croak in hospitals due to > > medical accident than accidents on our hazardous highways, > > the family is providing 100% assistance/monitoring for the > > next few days. I'm just waiting for my Stanley full of > > coffee to finish perking and I'll be off to relieve my > > sister-in-law for the 11pm to 8am shift. > > > > Not sure how coherent I'm going to be with electrical matters > > in the near term but this too will pass . . . > > > > > > Bob . . . > > > > |-------------------------------------------------------| > > | The man who does not read good books has no advantage | > > | over the man who cannot read them. | > > | - Mark Twain | > > |-------------------------------------------------------| > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 21 ____________________________________ Time: 09:48:00 PM PST US From: "Shannon Knoepflein" Subject: RE: AeroElectric-List: Wire Size.... --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Shannon Knoepflein" Good call...glad I asked. So, a single #2 AWG for ground, and a #2 for Main, and a #4 for Aux/ESS. Sound good to everyone for a 10' run? -----Original Message----- From: owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Benford2@aol.com Subject: AeroElectric-List: Wire Size.... --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Benford2@aol.com You need to take into account the max draw for the starter. You show 72 amps max. The starter is gonna consume twice to three times that. I am runnig a V-8 Ford and my 10.3' run from the battery to the solonoid is #2 both ways. ________________________________ Message 22 ____________________________________ Time: 10:02:42 PM PST US From: Benford2@aol.com Subject: AeroElectric-List: wire size and redundant spark --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Benford2@aol.com I am running duel MSD 6AL ignition boxes. Box 1 is getting power from the main buss. Box 2 gets its feed straight from the Positive post of the battery with a fuse inline. I was concerned that if for some reason the master relay died and both boxes were fed by that circuit I would be looking for a place to land. This way the whole electrical system can die and I will make it down safely. Ben. N801BH. ________________________________ Message 23 ____________________________________ Time: 10:19:52 PM PST US From: "Rob W M Shipley" Subject: AeroElectric-List: Wing tip strobes. --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Rob W M Shipley" I'm still debating the best way of arranging my lighting. Has anyone tried the combination postion/strobe/tail lights, (Whelen A600PG/PR)? This seems the simplest way to provide the lighting but I'm not quite convinced as to the ease of mounting these to an RV wing tip to give the necessary coverage and also wonder about the vulnerability issues. Your thoughts please gentlemen. Fly safe Rob Rob W M Shipley RV9A N919RV Fuselage.