AeroElectric-List Digest Archive

Tue 01/28/03


Total Messages Posted: 17



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     1. 07:03 AM - Re: wiring switches (Robert L. Nuckolls, III)
     2. 07:14 AM - Re: Howto d-sub machined pins (Robert L. Nuckolls, III)
     3. 07:14 AM - Re: Re: be nice, please (Robert L. Nuckolls, III)
     4. 07:45 AM - Re: Re: be nice, please (Matt Prather)
     5. 09:32 AM - Re: Electric fuel valves (Shani, David)
     6. 09:38 AM - Re: Re: be nice, please (DHPHKH@aol.com)
     7. 09:52 AM - Re: Re: be nice, please (David Glauser)
     8. 10:08 AM - Re: wiring switches (Ron Raby)
     9. 10:42 AM - Re: Electric fuel valves (richard@riley.net)
    10. 11:16 AM - Re: Electric fuel valves (czechsix@juno.com)
    11. 11:41 AM - Re: wiring switches (Robert Dickson)
    12. 12:19 PM - Re: Re: be nice, please (Tony Babb)
    13. 01:56 PM - Re: wiring switches (Ron Raby)
    14. 06:59 PM - Re: Howto d-sub machined pins (Larry Bowen)
    15. 07:43 PM - Re: AeroElectric-List Digest: 10 Msgs - 01/27/03 (Ronald Cox)
    16. 08:47 PM - Wig-Wag switching (Frank Smidler)
    17. 08:55 PM - Position Lt and Inst Lt Switches (Frank Smidler)
 
 
 


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    Time: 07:03:16 AM PST US
    From: "Robert L. Nuckolls, III" <bob.nuckolls@cox.net>
    Subject: Re: wiring switches
    --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Robert L. Nuckolls, III" <bob.nuckolls@cox.net> At 09:14 PM 1/27/2003 -0500, you wrote: >--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Robert Dickson" ><robert@thenews-journal.com> > >I'm wiring the toggle switches for my RV-6A and have a question about >whether I'm doing so "acceptably." I'm using switches from B&C with fast-on >connections, and have a row of 14 switches along the bottom left of my >panel. >I've secured the main bundle of wires running to these switches with adel >clamps along the bottom of the bulkhead behind the panel. This makes the >distance from where the wires leave the bundle to the switch connections at >about 6", maybe a little less. >I'm planning on tying the wires in smaller bundles between the clamps and >the switches, but what I really want to know is whether it's ok to have this >kind of setup behind my switches. >I could, with some considerable effort, re-route the main bundle closer to >the rear of the panel, but it would mean somehow actually clamping that >bundle to the panel itself. For removability reasons I'd much prefer not to >do this. >It seems like I'm always thinking about something like this after I've >started do it another way. The way I've got the switches wired now really >looks fine to me just the way they are, but I thought I ought to ask. Just >another reason (besides having to learn *everything*) I'm so darned slow at >building this thing. What you are proposing sounds fine. Bob . . .


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    Time: 07:14:42 AM PST US
    From: "Robert L. Nuckolls, III" <bob.nuckolls@cox.net>
    Subject: Re: Howto d-sub machined pins
    --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Robert L. Nuckolls, III" <bob.nuckolls@cox.net> At 09:55 PM 1/27/2003 +0100, you wrote: >--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Werner Schneider" ><WernerSchneider@compuserve.com> > >Hello Bob and others been there done that, > >just received tonight the tool for crimping d-sub machined pins. I've >checked on the webpage, but could not find a howto. What I did, I did remove >about 1/8" of insulation, inserted the wire into the pin and crimped it, >therafter I fitted a small thin piece of heatshrink over it to make the >thing mechanical more stable. > >Is this correct, or did I do something wrong? > >Many thanks for your comment/feedback. Heat shrink will increase the diameter of the assembly to an extent that will prevent the pin from being inserted into the connector. Heat shrink is not necessary on crimped connectors. If you're concerned about mechanical support, you can put a back shell on the connector. However, a string tie or tye-wrap on the wire bundle within an inch or so of the connector body stiffens up the wire bundle to provide adequate support. Bob . . .


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    Time: 07:14:42 AM PST US
    From: "Robert L. Nuckolls, III" <bob.nuckolls@cox.net>
    Subject: Re: be nice, please
    --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Robert L. Nuckolls, III" <bob.nuckolls@cox.net> At 10:06 PM 1/27/2003 -0600, you wrote: >--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Robert L. Nuckolls, III" ><bob.nuckolls@cox.net> > >At 07:30 PM 1/27/2003 -0500, you wrote: > >--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Rick D." <rsdec1@msn.com> > > > > What the heck, we are now getting health and academic reports from all > >over, why not some discussion about something that is at least an electrical > >component in an airplane. God, we have had all kinds of topics here. At one > >point some non-aircraft related software topics dominated days of the list. > > Arrogance? GO AHEAD, MAKE MY DAY, SHOW ME WHERE I"M WRONG! Wow, is that > >genuine arrogance or what? > > If you understood the meaning of the statement, you would > know that it is a simple and honest request to be called on > errors of fact or reasoning. It is incumbent upon us all as > teachers AND students to share simple ideas of fact and to > work together to assemble what we know into elegant designs. <snip> > If we give nobody permission to insult us, then > we can concentrate on the task of seeing what > > Bob . . . I'm sure I wasn't THAT dingy while crafting this response last night. I've had problems in the past where some of my cut-n-paste edits didn't go to file as displayed on the screen thus producing strange holes in the finished text. Anywho, I hope the spirit and intent came across okay. Bob . . .


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    Time: 07:45:06 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: be nice, please
    From: "Matt Prather" <mprather@spro.net>
    --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Matt Prather" <mprather@spro.net> Definitely. I hope it helps those that are prone to shouting understand that doing so in email form isn't any more effective than when sitting in the same room. Thanks again for all of the technical support, and for the occasional rational mediation. I am happier with my airplane because of the knowledge that I have gained from this forum. And I am certain that others have been equally well served. Regards, Matt Prather N34RD > --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Robert L. Nuckolls, III" > <bob.nuckolls@cox.net> > > At 10:06 PM 1/27/2003 -0600, you wrote: >>--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Robert L. Nuckolls, III" >> <bob.nuckolls@cox.net> >> >>At 07:30 PM 1/27/2003 -0500, you wrote: >> >--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Rick D." <rsdec1@msn.com> >> > >> > What the heck, we are now getting health and academic reports >> from all >> >over, why not some discussion about something that is at least an >> electrical component in an airplane. God, we have had all kinds of >> topics here. At one point some non-aircraft related software topics >> dominated days of the list. >> > Arrogance? GO AHEAD, MAKE MY DAY, SHOW ME WHERE I"M WRONG! Wow, >> is that >> >genuine arrogance or what? >> >> If you understood the meaning of the statement, you would >> know that it is a simple and honest request to be called on >> errors of fact or reasoning. It is incumbent upon us all as >> teachers AND students to share simple ideas of fact and to >> work together to assemble what we know into elegant designs. > > <snip> > > >> If we give nobody permission to insult us, then >> we can concentrate on the task of seeing what >> >> Bob . . . > > I'm sure I wasn't THAT dingy while crafting this response > last night. I've had problems in the past where some of > my cut-n-paste edits didn't go to file as displayed on > the screen thus producing strange holes in the finished > text. Anywho, I hope the spirit and intent came across > okay. > > Bob . . . > >


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    Time: 09:32:32 AM PST US
    From: "Shani, David" <David.Shani@sanmina-sci.com>
    Subject: Re: Electric fuel valves
    --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Shani, David" <David.Shani@sanmina-sci.com> Hi Bernie Could you share with the group the sources and technical details of the valves used in . N812SP ? Thanks, David


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    Time: 09:38:34 AM PST US
    From: DHPHKH@aol.com
    Subject: Re: be nice, please
    --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: DHPHKH@aol.com Gang, As I understand it, most of the great minds of the 20th century really enjoyed sitting around a kitchen table, arguing the fine points of their specialties with their peers. I'm sure sure everyone gained in the process. I'm equally sure the debate got heated at times, with "prove it" being the classic challenge. SIG e-mail lists are the world's largest kitchen tables. Enjoy and learn. Anybody need another beer? Dan Horton


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    Time: 09:52:38 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: be nice, please
    From: "David Glauser" <david.glauser@xpsystems.com>
    --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "David Glauser" <david.glauser@xpsystems.com> I'll have Scotch, please. And get your elbows off my table. :-) David -----Original Message----- From: DHPHKH@aol.com [mailto:DHPHKH@aol.com] Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: Re: be nice, please --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: DHPHKH@aol.com Gang, As I understand it, most of the great minds of the 20th century really enjoyed sitting around a kitchen table, arguing the fine points of their specialties with their peers. I'm sure sure everyone gained in the process. I'm equally sure the debate got heated at times, with "prove it" being the classic challenge. SIG e-mail lists are the world's largest kitchen tables. Enjoy and learn. Anybody need another beer? Dan Horton


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    Time: 10:08:03 AM PST US
    From: "Ron Raby" <ronr@advanceddesign.com>
    Subject: Re: wiring switches
    --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Ron Raby" <ronr@advanceddesign.com> Robert In our buisness we call that skywiring and we try to avoid it if possible. although I do not see a problem with what you are doing. Here are my suggestions: You may want to make the switch wires longer and ty them to the panel somehow or even tywrap them to the switch and loop them back to make the connection. Try to make the branches off the main trunk for two or more switches each. If you had to reach up behind the panel this would give you a little more room to get your hand by. another way I seen is to put a peice of heat shrink on the 6" branch for neatness. This looks better than using small tywraps or lacing cord. Ron Raby N829R ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert L. Nuckolls, III" <bob.nuckolls@cox.net> Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: wiring switches > --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Robert L. Nuckolls, III" <bob.nuckolls@cox.net> > > At 09:14 PM 1/27/2003 -0500, you wrote: > >--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Robert Dickson" > ><robert@thenews-journal.com> > > > >I'm wiring the toggle switches for my RV-6A and have a question about > >whether I'm doing so "acceptably." I'm using switches from B&C with fast-on > >connections, and have a row of 14 switches along the bottom left of my > >panel. > >I've secured the main bundle of wires running to these switches with adel > >clamps along the bottom of the bulkhead behind the panel. This makes the > >distance from where the wires leave the bundle to the switch connections at > >about 6", maybe a little less. > >I'm planning on tying the wires in smaller bundles between the clamps and > >the switches, but what I really want to know is whether it's ok to have this > >kind of setup behind my switches. > >I could, with some considerable effort, re-route the main bundle closer to > >the rear of the panel, but it would mean somehow actually clamping that > >bundle to the panel itself. For removability reasons I'd much prefer not to > >do this. > >It seems like I'm always thinking about something like this after I've > >started do it another way. The way I've got the switches wired now really > >looks fine to me just the way they are, but I thought I ought to ask. Just > >another reason (besides having to learn *everything*) I'm so darned slow at > >building this thing. > > What you are proposing sounds fine. > > Bob . . . > >


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    Time: 10:42:50 AM PST US
    From: richard@riley.net
    Subject: Re: Electric fuel valves
    --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: richard@riley.net At 10:29 PM 1/27/03 +0000, you wrote: >--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: czechsix@juno.com > >Mark et al, > >Thanks for the note. > >As co-owner or N812SP and primary designer of the electric fuel valve >installation, let me share some facts about our experience with the valves >... so far. Was 812SP also known as "Ten Forward?" Richard Riley N1701V


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    Time: 11:16:27 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Electric fuel valves
    From: czechsix@juno.com
    --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: czechsix@juno.com Guys, FYI, if anyone else is interested in contacting Bernie Hayes about the electric fuel valves in his Long-EZ, please write him at ebhayes@rockwellcollins.com. I work with him and forwarded his comments to the List yesterday, but he is not on the List and if you reply to yesterday's message you'll be sending the e-mail to me, not him. Thanks, --Mark Navratil (czechsix@juno.com) Cedar Rapids, Iowa RV-8A N2D finishing...


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    Time: 11:41:59 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: wiring switches
    From: "Robert Dickson" <robert@thenews-journal.com>
    --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Robert Dickson" <robert@thenews-journal.com> thanks, Ron, that's a great reply and pretty much what I was looking for. Is it better to run the bundle just behind the switches leaving it supported only by the switches, but with very short runs to the connectors? I've checked several web sites since I posted my query and have seen what look to be bundles right behind the row of switches with perhaps the only support at the start of the run behind the row. Does this make any sense? I could probably make this modification if it is a clearly more acceptable (read more durable) way to do it. I really appreciate your input. Robert Dickson RV-6A electrical ---------- >From: "Ron Raby" <ronr@advanceddesign.com> >To: <aeroelectric-list@matronics.com> >Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: wiring switches >Date: Tue, Jan 28, 2003, 1:10 PM > > --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Ron Raby" <ronr@advanceddesign.com> > > > Robert > > In our buisness we call that skywiring and we try to avoid it if possible. > although I do not see a problem with what you are doing. > Here are my suggestions: > You may want to make the switch wires longer and ty them to the panel > somehow or even tywrap them to the switch and loop them back to make the > connection. Try to make the branches off the main trunk for two or more > switches each. If you had to reach up behind the panel this would give you a > little more room to get your hand by. another way I seen is to put a peice > of heat shrink on the 6" branch for neatness. This looks better than using > small tywraps or lacing cord. > > Ron Raby > > N829R > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Robert L. Nuckolls, III" <bob.nuckolls@cox.net> > To: <aeroelectric-list@matronics.com> > Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: wiring switches > > >> --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Robert L. Nuckolls, III" > <bob.nuckolls@cox.net> >> >> At 09:14 PM 1/27/2003 -0500, you wrote: >> >--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Robert Dickson" >> ><robert@thenews-journal.com> >> > >> >I'm wiring the toggle switches for my RV-6A and have a question about >> >whether I'm doing so "acceptably." I'm using switches from B&C with > fast-on >> >connections, and have a row of 14 switches along the bottom left of my >> >panel. >> >I've secured the main bundle of wires running to these switches with adel >> >clamps along the bottom of the bulkhead behind the panel. This makes the >> >distance from where the wires leave the bundle to the switch connections > at >> >about 6", maybe a little less. >> >I'm planning on tying the wires in smaller bundles between the clamps and >> >the switches, but what I really want to know is whether it's ok to have > this >> >kind of setup behind my switches. >> >I could, with some considerable effort, re-route the main bundle closer > to >> >the rear of the panel, but it would mean somehow actually clamping that >> >bundle to the panel itself. For removability reasons I'd much prefer not > to >> >do this. >> >It seems like I'm always thinking about something like this after I've >> >started do it another way. The way I've got the switches wired now really >> >looks fine to me just the way they are, but I thought I ought to ask. > Just >> >another reason (besides having to learn *everything*) I'm so darned slow > at >> >building this thing. >> >> What you are proposing sounds fine. >> >> Bob . . . >> >> > > >


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    Time: 12:19:41 PM PST US
    From: "Tony Babb" <tonybabb@alejandra.net>
    Subject: Re: be nice, please
    --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Tony Babb" <tonybabb@alejandra.net> > SIG e-mail lists are the world's largest kitchen tables. Enjoy and > learn. Anybody need another beer? I'll drink to that.


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    Time: 01:56:52 PM PST US
    From: "Ron Raby" <ronr@advanceddesign.com>
    Subject: Re: wiring switches
    --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Ron Raby" <ronr@advanceddesign.com> Robert This is what I would do. If you could come on to the switch panel from one side and run the wires either over the top or underneath the switches that would be good. If the switch panel can be removed try and make it so that you can pull this panel off to work on it with out taking the wires off. I would try not to use the switches for support of the wiring bundle if possible. Use Adel clamps, wallmounts etc. Try this catalog they have all kinds of mounts you can use. Branch the wires out at each switch aprox 4" long and put on your lugs. Make sure that this service loop will allow you to change these lugs a couple of times if needed. Make all the branched wires the same length for looks. http://onlinecatalog.panduit.com/Panduit/Templates/Panduit/browse.asp?newrec ordset=yes&classlevel=316 Ron Raby N829R ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Dickson" <robert@thenews-journal.com> Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: wiring switches > --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Robert Dickson" <robert@thenews-journal.com> > > thanks, Ron, that's a great reply and pretty much what I was looking for. Is > it better to run the bundle just behind the switches leaving it supported > only by the switches, but with very short runs to the connectors? I've > checked several web sites since I posted my query and have seen what look to > be bundles right behind the row of switches with perhaps the only support at > the start of the run behind the row. Does this make any sense? > I could probably make this modification if it is a clearly more acceptable > (read more durable) way to do it. > I really appreciate your input. > > Robert Dickson > RV-6A electrical > > ---------- > >From: "Ron Raby" <ronr@advanceddesign.com> > >To: <aeroelectric-list@matronics.com> > >Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: wiring switches > >Date: Tue, Jan 28, 2003, 1:10 PM > > > > > --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Ron Raby" <ronr@advanceddesign.com> > > > > > > Robert > > > > In our buisness we call that skywiring and we try to avoid it if possible. > > although I do not see a problem with what you are doing. > > Here are my suggestions: > > You may want to make the switch wires longer and ty them to the panel > > somehow or even tywrap them to the switch and loop them back to make the > > connection. Try to make the branches off the main trunk for two or more > > switches each. If you had to reach up behind the panel this would give you a > > little more room to get your hand by. another way I seen is to put a peice > > of heat shrink on the 6" branch for neatness. This looks better than using > > small tywraps or lacing cord. > > > > Ron Raby > > > > N829R > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Robert L. Nuckolls, III" <bob.nuckolls@cox.net> > > To: <aeroelectric-list@matronics.com> > > Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: wiring switches > > > > > >> --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Robert L. Nuckolls, III" > > <bob.nuckolls@cox.net> > >> > >> At 09:14 PM 1/27/2003 -0500, you wrote: > >> >--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Robert Dickson" > >> ><robert@thenews-journal.com> > >> > > >> >I'm wiring the toggle switches for my RV-6A and have a question about > >> >whether I'm doing so "acceptably." I'm using switches from B&C with > > fast-on > >> >connections, and have a row of 14 switches along the bottom left of my > >> >panel. > >> >I've secured the main bundle of wires running to these switches with adel > >> >clamps along the bottom of the bulkhead behind the panel. This makes the > >> >distance from where the wires leave the bundle to the switch connections > > at > >> >about 6", maybe a little less. > >> >I'm planning on tying the wires in smaller bundles between the clamps and > >> >the switches, but what I really want to know is whether it's ok to have > > this > >> >kind of setup behind my switches. > >> >I could, with some considerable effort, re-route the main bundle closer > > to > >> >the rear of the panel, but it would mean somehow actually clamping that > >> >bundle to the panel itself. For removability reasons I'd much prefer not > > to > >> >do this. > >> >It seems like I'm always thinking about something like this after I've > >> >started do it another way. The way I've got the switches wired now really > >> >looks fine to me just the way they are, but I thought I ought to ask. > > Just > >> >another reason (besides having to learn *everything*) I'm so darned slow > > at > >> >building this thing. > >> > >> What you are proposing sounds fine. > >> > >> Bob . . . > >> > >> > > > > > > > >


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    Time: 06:59:28 PM PST US
    From: "Larry Bowen" <Larry@BowenAero.com>
    Subject: Howto d-sub machined pins
    --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Larry Bowen" <Larry@BowenAero.com> That what I did on my AP wiring and it worked out nice. I put 1/4" flex-sleeve on the entire bundle. It made a 10', 7-wire bundle very manageable and clean looking. Without it it was chaos. - Larry Bowen Larry@BowenAero.com http://BowenAero.com 2003 - The year of flight! > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com] On > Behalf Of Robert L. Nuckolls, III > > Heat shrink will increase the diameter of the assembly to > an extent that will prevent the pin from being inserted > into the connector. Heat shrink is not necessary on > crimped connectors. If you're concerned about mechanical > support, you can put a back shell on the connector. > However, a string tie or tye-wrap on the wire bundle > within an inch or so of the connector body stiffens up > the wire bundle to provide adequate support. > > Bob . . .


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    Time: 07:43:52 PM PST US
    From: "Ronald Cox" <racox@ix.netcom.com>
    Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List Digest: 10 Msgs - 01/27/03
    --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Ronald Cox" <racox@ix.netcom.com> Hey guys, let these things sit on your computers a minute before you click SEND and I'll bet most of them don't get sent at all. "Old Bob" asked if folks wanted his repeated discussion on the T&B vs. TC debate. Folks said yes, so he re-posted it. Not a problem for anyone, IMHO. As for the "Go ahead, make my day" line from the OTHER Bob, if you think it's arrogant, you obviously don't get it at all. Bob (Nuckolls) enjoys nothing more than having someone show him if/when he's wrong, and that's why he says that. It really does make his day. It's not arrogance, though he would have the right to be so. I've never met anyone who knows so much about a subject who is so willing to explain and support his opinions, and identify them as such, WITHOUT being arrogant. And he does it all for free. I, for one, greatly appreciate what he, and others here, post for us all to wade through. As for the "off topic" posts, that's not nearly as annoying to me as the endless complaining about the occasional "off topic" posts. And the endless, indiscriminate "quoting" of messages one is responding to. (One list a week or so ago was over 75% "quoted" material.) I dug through it and deleted the "chaff". If something on this list bugs you, just delete it. Just like this message. And you can have back the money you paid for mine... And yes, lighten up, "all y'all"... There's far too much good info here (among the other) to chase so many knowledgeable folks away. Ron Time: 04:31:53 PM PST US From: "Rick D." <rsdec1@msn.com> Subject: AeroElectric-List: Re: be nice, please --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Rick D." <rsdec1@msn.com> What the heck, we are now getting health and academic reports from all over, why not some discussion about something that is at least an electrical component in an airplane. God, we have had all kinds of topics here. At one point some non-aircraft related software topics dominated days of the list. Arrogance? GO AHEAD, MAKE MY DAY, SHOW ME WHERE I"M WRONG! Wow, is that genuine arrogance or what? I could point out hundreds of mistakes made here on this site and related literature but I don't feel as though I need to rub anyone's nose in it. Mistakes are made by EVERYONE. This list is frequented by some of the most arrogant, pompous, know-it-all individuals that I have ever had the displeasure of reading. It seems as though someone is always looking for an argument and/or a fight at this list. Simple suggestions or opinions are met with arrogant, discourteous responses because they have not been supported and backed up by scienticific fact. Opinions offered by some individuals here are offered as gospel and to disagree with them or to offer alternatives only opens one up to more arrogant responses. One only needs to go back and read some of the past posts to verify this. Fortunatly, there are still some intelligent, courteous, non-arrogant and genuine opinions that people such as "Old Bob" can contribute. And, N919RV, just who DO you think is responsible for the mentioned pilot differences noted by "Old Bob"? Never mind I don't want your OPINION unless you can back it up with hard data. I don't think Denny was arrogant or rude at all, he simply asks a question. He did not state his opinion that it was "old Bob's" fault. You interpreted Denny's question for him. If Denny wanted to say he thought it was Bob's fault, he probably would have said just that. How about some discussion about some of the solid state gyro's from people like the Icarus/IPAQ. Will these replace the dreaded T/C and AI? Lighten up yourself N919RV, see ya later, ha, ha, ha,


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    Time: 08:47:48 PM PST US
    From: Frank Smidler <smidler@dcwi.com>
    Subject: Wig-Wag switching
    --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Frank Smidler <smidler@dcwi.com> I have been looking at Bobs schmatics for Wig-Wag and I was wondering if it is feasable on the third layout to split the 4LT1-10 switch into tow 2-10 switches, one for taxi and one for landing lights. The idea is to be able to have both lights on, just the taxi light, wig-wag or off with only two switches. I prefer not to use three switches as on the first layout to save panel room. As I see it only when BOTH switches are at the center will wig-wag work. If the taxi switch is up then it will be on, no matter what position the landing lt switch is at and visa-versa. I came to this conclusion based on Note #1 that states both 2 & 3 pins of the SSF-1 flasher must be loaded to a lamp in order for it to actually flash. The only reason I am looking at seperating the taxi and landing light is that I have a tail dragging RV-6 that I am assuming I will have to adjust the taxi light different then the landing light. The second assumption I am making is that I will need to turn off the landing light on the ground since it will be pointing up and may blind other pilots. Are these valid assumptions? Any comments would be appreciated.


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    Time: 08:55:55 PM PST US
    From: Frank Smidler <smidler@dcwi.com>
    Subject: Position Lt and Inst Lt Switches
    --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Frank Smidler <smidler@dcwi.com> Has anyone set up a single switch to turn on both the position lights and the instrument lights (still two circuits)? I am thinking of doing this with a 2-2 switch but I would like to hear of any down side to doing it, such as a need to shut off the instrument lights when the position lights are on. I will state that I plan on utilizing an AEC dimmer on the instrument light circuit. This is another attempt to simplify the instrument panel and to save space. While we are on the subject, I am assuming that the AEC dimmer does not have an off function. Thank You Frank Smidler RV-6




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