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Fri 01/31/03


Total Messages Posted: 15



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     1. 03:43 AM - Re: landing lights (Wendell & Jean Durr)
     2. 03:57 AM - cycling voltmeter and ammeter (N223RV@aol.com)
     3. 05:29 AM - Re: King connector (Ron Raby)
     4. 06:58 AM - Re: landing lights (Shannon Knoepflein)
     5. 07:08 AM - Low Cost Ground Power Jack ..... (Richard Dudley)
     6. 07:15 AM - Re: landing lights (Matt Prather)
     7. 07:20 AM - Subject: (Stucklen, Frederic IFC)
     8. 09:16 AM - Re: Narco Com 120 gears (I-Blackler, Wayne R)
     9. 09:42 AM - Re: Narco Com 120 gears (Brad Benson)
    10. 12:08 PM - Re: Narco Com 120 gears (Cy Galley)
    11. 04:16 PM - Re: Right Angle BNC (Jim & Jeanette Oberst)
    12. 07:47 PM - Re: Low Cost Ground Power Jack ..... (Richard Dudley)
    13. 08:34 PM - Re: Narco Com 120 gears (Rick)
    14. 09:50 PM - Coaxial cables (Wayne Sweet)
    15. 10:05 PM - Re: Right Angle BNC (richard@riley.net)
 
 
 


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    Time: 03:43:19 AM PST US
    From: "Wendell & Jean Durr" <legacy147@cableone.net>
    Subject: Re: landing lights
    --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Wendell & Jean Durr" <legacy147@cableone.net> Interesting. I plan a 75W taxi light and a 75W landing light on each gear door, so 2 light per side, 4 total Will the added weight on the doors impact their remaining closed under air loads? 'Twas Lancair's concern Wendell Durr


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    Time: 03:57:20 AM PST US
    From: N223RV@aol.com
    Subject: cycling voltmeter and ammeter
    --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: N223RV@aol.com have about 16 hours on my RV-4 and have a question.=A0 My voltmeter and ammeter cycle between 13-14.5 V on the voltmeter and between 5-10 amps every 1/2 second or so.=A0 The volt meter rapidly rises from 13 volts to 14.5 volts and back almost like the voltage is rising, gets too high, cuts out, drops below 13 volts, kicks back in, rises to 14.5 volts, cuts out......=A0 It just rapidly cycles up and down.=A0 I have tried adjusting the voltage regulator lower but does not seem to help the cycling..... I have a 35 amp Van's supplied alternator, a Van's supplied $35ish voltage regulator, and an Aeroelectric overvoltage protection device.=A0 This issue does not seem to cause any problems, but it does not seem right.=A0 Last night I turned on all my electrical accessories and it seemed to steady out at about 13 V, but if I turn off just a couple of items, it goes right back to cycling.=A0 I don't understand what is going on or if it is an issue, but it just does not seem right. Does anyone have any ideas on what to check? Thanks Mike Kraus N223RV - 16 hours and loving it!


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    Time: 05:29:39 AM PST US
    From: "Ron Raby" <ronr@advanceddesign.com>
    Subject: Re: King connector
    --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Ron Raby" <ronr@advanceddesign.com> amphenol or amp should have a cheaper version. Ron Raby N829R ----- Original Message ----- From: <N2165v@aol.com> Subject: AeroElectric-List: King connector > --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: N2165v@aol.com > > I just got a price on a King 030-00101-0002 coax connector of $46. First > question is why so much? Second question would be is there a "generic" > replacement for this connector? It is the antenna connector on the KT-76C > and the KY-97A. Using RG-400 coax. > Thanks > >


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    Time: 06:58:38 AM PST US
    From: "Shannon Knoepflein" <kycshann@kyol.net>
    Subject: landing lights
    --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Shannon Knoepflein" <kycshann@kyol.net> They are on the outer gear door which is directly connected to the strut, so I think they will be alright....we'll see. --- Shannon Knoepflein <---> kycshann@kyol.net -----Original Message----- From: owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Wendell & Jean Durr Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: landing lights --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Wendell & Jean Durr" <legacy147@cableone.net> Interesting. I plan a 75W taxi light and a 75W landing light on each gear door, so 2 light per side, 4 total Will the added weight on the doors impact their remaining closed under air loads? 'Twas Lancair's concern Wendell Durr


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    Time: 07:08:31 AM PST US
    From: Richard Dudley <rhdudley@att.net>
    Subject: Low Cost Ground Power Jack .....
    --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Richard Dudley <rhdudley@att.net> Bob, I like the idea of having a ground power jack for the reasons you list in your paper. I have ordered the parts to install one. In re-reviewing the schematic (Fig. 3) I am having a problem understanding how the ground power contactor can release when the external power is removed. It seems to me that, since it is connected to the aircraft battery positive, that contactor will remain energized after the external power is removed; with the only recourse being to pull the circuit breaker to unlatch the contactor. What am I missing? Regards, Richard Dudley


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    Time: 07:15:07 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: landing lights
    From: "Matt Prather" <mprather@spro.net>
    --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Matt Prather" <mprather@spro.net> I can't see any reason to sheild the wiring for the landing lights. > --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: TSaccio@aol.com > > I'm installing Whalen strobes and landing lights on a Seawind that I'm > building. Do all wires including the ones going to the landing lights > have to be shielded. I can't seam to find any information on this. Tom > Saccio > >


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    Time: 07:20:17 AM PST US
    From: "Stucklen, Frederic IFC" <Fred.Stucklen@UTCFuelCells.com>
    Subject: Subject:
    --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Stucklen, Frederic IFC" <Fred.Stucklen@UTCFuelCells.com> Rick, NARCO now does all their own repairs - no dealer repairs anymore, so you're stuck with them unless you can find a avionics repair shop that has some old ones laying around....... Fred Stucklen RV-6A I need to replace one of the little plastic gears in the frequency selector mechanism on a Narco Com 120.I called the factory and they want me to ship them the radio and $400 or $500. It's obviously not worth spending that much on a 20 year old radio. Is there another source for these gears? Rick Pitcher


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    Time: 09:16:55 AM PST US
    Subject: Narco Com 120 gears
    From: "I-Blackler, Wayne R" <wayne.blackler@boeing.com>
    --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "I-Blackler, Wayne R" <wayne.blackler@boeing.com> Rick, A mate of mine back in Australia had the same problem with his Narco transponder. He was quoted same, except US$500 is $1000 to an Australian.. Solution: He made an aluminium version of the gear on his lathe, installed it, and is living happily ever after. NB: He had to synchronise the actual frequency with the number on the dial (Note: It was only one XPDR dial of the four). You could probably get an Avionics shop to install your own gear and bench synchronise. The tech wont look twice when he sees the stripped plastic version he's replacing. Personally, if your not breaking a warranty seal on the old box, I'd do it mys.... (Ooops, can I say that?) - Wayne -----Original Message----- From: Rick [mailto:rick.pitcher@verizon.net] Subject: AeroElectric-List: Narco Com 120 gears --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Rick <rick.pitcher@verizon.net> I need to replace one of the little plastic gears in the frequency selector mechanism on a Narco Com 120.I called the factory and they want me to ship them the radio and $400 or $500. It's obviously not worth spending that much on a 20 year old radio. Is there another source for these gears? Rick Pitcher


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    Time: 09:42:08 AM PST US
    From: "Brad Benson" <brad@cds-inc.com>
    Subject: Re: Narco Com 120 gears
    --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Brad Benson" <brad@cds-inc.com> I don't know about the gears, but I've seen Com 120s on Ebay for relatively cheap : http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2401916981&category=26436 Certainly better than handing over a fistful of cash to Narco or redoing your panel around something else.... Thanks! Brad "Sharpie" Benson RV6AQB underway... "Please buy my software, it's funding my RV6A project!" - http://www.notamd.com *********** REPLY SEPARATOR *********** On 1/31/2003 at 12:07 AM Rick wrote: >--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Rick <rick.pitcher@verizon.net> > > >I need to replace one of the little plastic gears in the frequency >selector mechanism on a Narco Com 120.I called the factory and they want >me to ship them the radio and $400 or $500. >It's obviously not worth spending that much on a 20 year old radio. Is >there another source for these gears? > >Rick Pitcher > >


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    Time: 12:08:48 PM PST US
    From: "Cy Galley" <cgalley@qcbc.org>
    Subject: Re: Narco Com 120 gears
    --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Cy Galley" <cgalley@qcbc.org> Might check to see if the older non-approved COMs have the same gears. Cy Galley - Bellanca Champion Club Newsletter Editor & EAA TC www.bellanca-championclub.com We support Aeroncas ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brad Benson" <brad@cds-inc.com> Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: Narco Com 120 gears > --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Brad Benson" <brad@cds-inc.com> > > > I don't know about the gears, but I've seen Com 120s on Ebay for relatively cheap : > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2401916981&cat egory=26436 > > Certainly better than handing over a fistful of cash to Narco or redoing your panel around something else.... > > Thanks! > Brad "Sharpie" Benson > RV6AQB underway... > "Please buy my software, it's funding my RV6A project!" - http://www.notamd.com > > *********** REPLY SEPARATOR *********** > > On 1/31/2003 at 12:07 AM Rick wrote: > > >--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Rick <rick.pitcher@verizon.net> > > > > > >I need to replace one of the little plastic gears in the frequency > >selector mechanism on a Narco Com 120.I called the factory and they want > >me to ship them the radio and $400 or $500. > >It's obviously not worth spending that much on a 20 year old radio. Is > >there another source for these gears? > > > >Rick Pitcher > > > > > >


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    Time: 04:16:32 PM PST US
    From: "Jim & Jeanette Oberst" <joberst@cox-internet.com>
    Subject: Re: Right Angle BNC
    --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Jim & Jeanette Oberst" <joberst@cox-internet.com> I recently bought a male-to-female right angle BNC connector at Radio Shack. Jim Oberst ----- Original Message ----- From: <DHPHKH@aol.com> Subject: AeroElectric-List: Right Angle BNC > --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: DHPHKH@aol.com > > Gang, > A few months ago somebody asked about crimp-on right angle female BNC connectors. Bob mentioned using a right angle adapter. Has anyone yet found a source for a decent crimp-on right angle? > > Dan > >


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    Time: 07:47:44 PM PST US
    From: Richard Dudley <rhdudley@att.net>
    Subject: Re: Low Cost Ground Power Jack .....
    --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Richard Dudley <rhdudley@att.net> Bob, I believe that I have found the answer to my own question. The symbol that I took as a circuit breaker is a switch breaker. Then the operating procedure would be to connect the external power which could be confirmed by the push-to-test light. The switch breaker would have control of the contactor and would have to be switched off at the end of the transfer to avoid the battery holding the contactor closed. Regards, Richard Dudley Richard Dudley wrote: > > --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Richard Dudley <rhdudley@att.net> > > Bob, > > I like the idea of having a ground power jack for the reasons you list > in your paper. I have ordered the parts to install one. > > In re-reviewing the schematic (Fig. 3) I am having a problem > understanding how the ground power contactor can release when the > external power is removed. It seems to me that, since it is connected to > the aircraft battery positive, that contactor will remain energized > after the external power is removed; with the only recourse being to > pull the circuit breaker to unlatch the contactor. > > What am I missing? > > Regards, > > Richard Dudley >


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    Time: 08:34:12 PM PST US
    From: Rick <rick.pitcher@verizon.net>
    Subject: Re: Narco Com 120 gears
    --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Rick <rick.pitcher@verizon.net> You guys sure are a helpful lot : ) Besides the answers I got here on the list, I got several more emails at home with suggestions. I was thinking about making an aluminum replacement on a lathe, but went out to the local avionics shop and was able to buy a "core" with a decent set of gears in it. I went through 3 radios before I found one that didn't have too much damage on the same gear. The one I ended up buying had a little crack already starting, but I laid a bead of epoxy alongside the gear and bonded it to the aluminum hub it is pressed onto. It works great, hopefully it will KEEP working. Thanks, Rick Pitcher http://lightflyers.com/Zodiac.html


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    Time: 09:50:41 PM PST US
    From: "Wayne Sweet" <wsweet@attbi.com>
    Subject: Coaxial cables
    --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Wayne Sweet" <wsweet@attbi.com> The Chief Aircraft catalog has 3 different types of coaxial cable: RG-58 (50 ohm), RG-142 (low loss for DME/TPX/GPS) and RG-400(low loss for GPS). I have used only the multi-stranded RG58 in my homebuilt for all the radios, not knowing about the other two. Why the other two??? Wayne


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    Time: 10:05:28 PM PST US
    From: richard@riley.net
    Subject: Re: Right Angle BNC
    --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: richard@riley.net At 06:00 PM 1/30/03 -0600, you wrote: >--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Robert L. Nuckolls, III" ><bob.nuckolls@cox.net> > >At 05:53 PM 1/30/2003 -0500, you wrote: > >--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: DHPHKH@aol.com > > > >Gang, > > A few months ago somebody asked about crimp-on right angle female BNC > > connectors. Bob mentioned using a right angle adapter. Has anyone yet > > found a source for a decent crimp-on right angle? > > There are a number of sources . . . but none that > I know of that will install with the tool we sell. > AMP 225974-2 is a suitable part that sells for $22.00 > qty of 1. The hand tool that installs it is about $400.00 Ouch. > If it were my airplane, I'd install a cable male connector, > mate it with a right angle adapter and shrink a chunk > of double walled tubing over the interface to make it > permanent. . . . the po' boy's right angle connector. I've done that in the past, and it's seemed to work fine for me. But someone who *says* that they know RF tells me that you loose a lot of energy out the angle unless it's a super special very expensive right angle that has a little horseshoe magnet in it. Any truth to that?




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