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1. 03:33 AM - Please do not archive (Sam Hoskins)
2. 04:31 AM - Re: Please do not archive (Jon Finley)
3. 05:00 AM - Radio Noise (RVEIGHTA@aol.com)
4. 05:01 AM - Re: Please do not archive / do not crash (Carlos Sa)
5. 05:46 AM - Re: GPS antenna in wingtip? (Robert Miller)
6. 05:47 AM - Switches ()
7. 05:51 AM - Re: Radio Noise (Benford2@aol.com)
8. 06:07 AM - Automobile lights (BAKEROCB@aol.com)
9. 06:17 AM - Re: Windows crashes (Robert L. Nuckolls, III)
10. 06:31 AM - Re: Automobile lights (Mark Steitle)
11. 07:27 AM - Re: Re: Windows crashes (Rob Housman)
12. 07:54 AM - Re: Re: Windows crashes ()
13. 08:15 AM - Re: Re: Windows crashes (Carlos Sa)
14. 08:45 AM - Re: Re: Windows crashes (klwerner@comcast.net)
15. 09:18 AM - Re: Pilot Automotive landing lights (rwilliams)
16. 10:07 AM - Re: Switches (Robert L. Nuckolls, III)
17. 10:11 AM - Re: Radio Noise (Robert L. Nuckolls, III)
18. 10:26 AM - Re: Re: Windows crashes (Bert Penney)
19. 10:48 AM - Re: Pilot Automotive landing lights (Rob Housman)
20. 11:43 AM - Re: Pilot Automotive landing lights (Mark Steitle)
21. 12:30 PM - Re: Re: Windows crashes (Cy Galley)
22. 12:57 PM - Re: Pilot Automotive landing lights (Scot Stambaugh)
23. 02:00 PM - Re: Pilot Automotive landing lights (Robert L. Nuckolls, III)
24. 02:59 PM - Re: Re: Windows crashes (klwerner@comcast.net)
25. 03:11 PM - Re[2]: Re: Windows crashes (Freddie Freeloader)
26. 03:13 PM - Thanks... (David J. Spencer)
27. 04:00 PM - Re: Push-to-test, indicator lamps, etc. (Neville Kilford)
28. 07:50 PM - Re: Re: Windows crashes (fellowsw)
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| Subject: | Please do not archive |
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Sam Hoskins" <shoskins@globaleyes.net>
Aero list guys,
Just out of curiosity, is the archiving done automatically, or does a person
do it?
If you say "Please do not archive" does that really keep the post out of the
record?
Just curious.
Sam Hoskins
Quickie Q-200, ready to get back in the air.
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| Subject: | Please do not archive |
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Jon Finley" <jon@finleyweb.net>
Hi Sam,
Automatically. Basically, this string of text (DO NOT ARCHIVE) tells
the message processing engine to NOT add the message to the archive. It
is very similar to the DO NOT CRASH switch on our planes.
Check out the AeroElectric list FAQ
(http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/AeroElectric-List.htm) and search for "DO
NOT ARCHIVE".
Jon
DO NOT ARCHIVE
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com] On
> Behalf Of Sam Hoskins
> Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2003 5:34 AM
> To: Aerolectric List
> Subject: AeroElectric-List: Please do not archive
>
>
> --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Sam Hoskins"
> --> <shoskins@globaleyes.net>
>
> Aero list guys,
>
> Just out of curiosity, is the archiving done automatically,
> or does a person do it?
>
> If you say "Please do not archive" does that really keep the
> post out of the record?
>
> Just curious.
>
> Sam Hoskins
> Quickie Q-200, ready to get back in the air.
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--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: RVEIGHTA@aol.com
Bob, I have a Microair radio which has worked perfectly during taxi tests of
my RV-8A, but recently on my first flight, although my ground crew had heard
me perfectly when I taxiied out to the runway, once I was in the air, they
heard nothing but static when I transmitted.
I have since tracked the noise down to my turn coordinator. When the turn
coordinator is not running, transmissions are clear. When it is, i'm unreadable.
Does the turn coordinator require a shielded power supply wire?
Walt Shipley
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| Subject: | Please do not archive / do not crash |
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Carlos Sa <carlosfsa@yahoo.com>
Where can I get a "do not crash" switch?
I'd like to install one on Windows.
Carlos
(just to be sure, do not archive)
--- Jon Finley <jon@finleyweb.net> wrote: > --> AeroElectric-List message posted
by: "Jon Finley" <jon@finleyweb.net>
>
> Hi Sam,
>
> Automatically. Basically, this string of text (DO NOT ARCHIVE) tells
> the message processing engine to NOT add the message to the archive. It
> is very similar to the DO NOT CRASH switch on our planes.
>
> Check out the AeroElectric list FAQ
> (http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/AeroElectric-List.htm) and search for "DO
> NOT ARCHIVE".
>
> Jon
> DO NOT ARCHIVE
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| Subject: | Re: GPS antenna in wingtip? |
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Robert Miller <rmiller3@earthlink.net>
Any photos of this available?
Thanks.
Robert
Mark Phillips wrote:
> --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Mark Phillips <ripsteel@edge.net>
>
> Another option for GPS antenna location for tip-ups is on top of the support
> channel for the cabin frame. Lower the front edge to be flush with the bottom
of
> the rollbar and mount the rear a half inch or so lower than shown in the plans.
> (this was blessed by a call to Vans support) My Garmin 35 sits nicely on top
of
> the channel. I originally did this to make the glass easier to clean, and saw
it
> would be a good spot for the reciever...
>
> >From The PossumWorks in TN
> Mark -6A FWF "almost" done, staring at emp fairing...
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--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: <315@cox.net>
Hi Bob,
I ordered the S700-2-3 2 position switch based on page 11-18 of the "Connection"
where you mention that it is recommended for combination battery-master/alternator-field
switching. I installed it not utilizing the upper poles. In the
down position all is off. In the up postion both the battery and the alternator
contactors are energized.
Now looking at:
http://216.55.140.222/temp/Switches.pdf
I see the labeling of the switch for "DC Power master, Battery" appears to show
an Off-On-On 3 position switch where the battery can be turned on by itself and
then the alternator can be engaged. I would like to be able to turn on the
battery without the alternator for power supply without the alternator energized.
I don't see an Off-On-On switch listed on page 11-16. What am I missing about
the Swich indicated in the PDF file above? Is there a Off-On-On 3 position
switch? Or can another be wired in this way?
Also, I need a 2-1 3 position switch to switch from one ignition coil to the other
ignition coil so that only one is on at a time. This switch is not listed
on the Aeroelectric parts list on the B&C web site. Where is a good place to find
it?
Thanks,
Ned Thomas
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--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Benford2@aol.com
In a message dated 6/18/2003 6:01:20 AM Mountain Daylight Time,
RVEIGHTA@aol.com writes:
>
> Bob, I have a Microair radio which has worked perfectly during taxi tests of
>
> my RV-8A, but recently on my first flight, although my ground crew had heard
>
> me perfectly when I taxiied out to the runway, once I was in the air, they
> heard nothing but static when I transmitted.
>
> I have since tracked the noise down to my turn coordinator. When the turn
> coordinator is not running, transmissions are clear. When it is, i'm
> unreadable.
> Does the turn coordinator require a shielded power supply wire?
>
> Walt Shipley
>
Is it the Waltrud / Falcon TC ?????
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| Subject: | Automobile lights |
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: BAKEROCB@aol.com
AeroElectric-List message previously posted by: "Eric M. Jones"
<emjones@charter.net>
<<....skip.....Bob mentions in his book the sensible system of using
automotive hi-low beam lamps. This makes great sense especially in single light
aircraft; in fact I can't imagine a reason not to do it....skip.... >>
6/18/2003
Hello Eric, I researched and even bought some automobile OEM version lights
before I finally settled on the Pilot after market driving lights.
The problem that I encountered with all of the OEM type equipment is that
they were just too large to put into the leading edge of my wings and creating
a
mounting system for what amounted to a glass blob was a significant burden /
challenge.
Also no space available in the engine cowling area. This left some sort of
bracket arrangement fastened to my fixed landing gear -- that didn't appeal to
me at all.
'OC' Baker, Builder of KIS TR-1 #116 4/14/97 - ?/?/?
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| Subject: | RE: Windows crashes |
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Robert L. Nuckolls, III" <bob.nuckolls@cox.net>
At 08:00 AM 6/18/2003 -0400, you wrote:
>--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Carlos Sa <carlosfsa@yahoo.com>
>
>Where can I get a "do not crash" switch?
>
>
>I'd like to install one on Windows.
>
>
>Carlos
>
>(just to be sure, do not archive)
If you're not already using it, try WinXp. Of all
the versions I've used (3.11, 95, 98, ME, XP) it
has proven the most stable . . . (I believe ME
and XP have WinNT heritages. NT was more graceful
than the DOS versions of Windows from square-one).
You might still have PROGRAMS that crash but the
NT descendants of Windows have better behavior
for closing and cleaning up after an application
crash without causing you to reboot the whole
computer.
Bob . . .
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| Subject: | Re: Automobile lights |
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Mark Steitle <msteitle@mail.utexas.edu>
At 09:06 AM 6/18/2003 -0400, you wrote:
>--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: BAKEROCB@aol.com
>
> AeroElectric-List message previously posted by: "Eric M. Jones"
><emjones@charter.net>
>
><<....skip.....Bob mentions in his book the sensible system of using
>automotive hi-low beam lamps. This makes great sense especially in single
>light
>aircraft; in fact I can't imagine a reason not to do it....skip.... >>
<snip>
>The problem that I encountered with all of the OEM type equipment is that
>they were just too large to put into the leading edge of my wings and
>creating a
>mounting system for what amounted to a glass blob was a significant burden /
>challenge.
<snip>
OC,
Bob has referenced a small, compact automotive headlight, #4352 that is
only about 1-3/4 tall and about 5-1/2" wide. I have been going through the
same dilemma as you and I went and bought a #4352 type recently and it is a
very small, rectangular shaped sealed halogen unit. With that said, you
got my interest with the dual beamed Pilot unit. Price is quite a bit more
than the 4352 ($24.99 @ Auto Zone), but it seems worth it. Can you buy
those locally, or do you have to order them from Pilot?
Mark S.
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| Subject: | RE: Windows crashes |
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Rob Housman" <RobH@hyperion-ef.com>
Win xp is as close to crash proof as any MS OS has ever been, and it
tolerates old programs very well. Windows ME is Win98 with a Win2000 "front
end" so while it may look like Win2000 it is not. Win 2000 and Win xp are
built on Win NT.
Best regards,
Rob Housman
Europa XS Tri-Gear A070
Airfarame complete
Irvine, CA
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Robert L.
Nuckolls, III
Subject: AeroElectric-List: RE: Windows crashes
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Robert L. Nuckolls, III"
<bob.nuckolls@cox.net>
At 08:00 AM 6/18/2003 -0400, you wrote:
>--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Carlos Sa <carlosfsa@yahoo.com>
>
>Where can I get a "do not crash" switch?
>
>
>I'd like to install one on Windows.
>
>
>Carlos
>
>(just to be sure, do not archive)
If you're not already using it, try WinXp. Of all
the versions I've used (3.11, 95, 98, ME, XP) it
has proven the most stable . . . (I believe ME
and XP have WinNT heritages. NT was more graceful
than the DOS versions of Windows from square-one).
You might still have PROGRAMS that crash but the
NT descendants of Windows have better behavior
for closing and cleaning up after an application
crash without causing you to reboot the whole
computer.
Bob . . .
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| Subject: | Re: RE: Windows crashes |
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: <chaskuss@bellsouth.net>
>
> From: "Robert L. Nuckolls, III" <bob.nuckolls@cox.net>
> Date: 2003/06/18 Wed AM 09:16:40 EDT
> To: aeroelectric-list@matronics.com
> Subject: AeroElectric-List: RE: Windows crashes
>
>
Bob,
ME was the last version of Windows based on DOS. Windows 2000 Pro could be considered
NT 5, as it is based on NTFS, as is Windows XP.
Charlie Kuss
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| Subject: | Re: RE: Windows crashes |
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Carlos Sa <carlosfsa@yahoo.com>
My joke with the "no crash button" relates to the frequent crashes I have with
Windows.
(In my case, Win 2000 Pro)
Each release of Windows is, indeed, less crash-prone than the previous.
However, it still is a unreliable OS, at least for my requirements.
nything that goes belly up on my every other day doesn't qualify as reliable.
Now I have to end this note, as I just got a msg from WIndows saying I'm low on
memory, what means that Windows (or Windows applications) did not clean up memory
properly.
Shall we get back to airplanes and electric stuff, please ?
do not archive
Carlos
... CRASH ...
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| Subject: | Re: RE: Windows crashes |
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: klwerner@comcast.net
Does everyone think that the because of the "FLYING Windows" Screensaver, it automatically
qualifies to be on the "AERO Electric" List ??? I am sure there is
a more appropriate MS-Windows List somewhere else on the Net.
DO NOT ARCHIVE
----- Original Message -----
From: chaskuss@bellsouth.net
To: aeroelectric-list@matronics.com
Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2003 8:53 AM
Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: RE: Windows crashes
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: <chaskuss@bellsouth.net>
>
> From: "Robert L. Nuckolls, III" <bob.nuckolls@cox.net>
> Date: 2003/06/18 Wed AM 09:16:40 EDT
> To: aeroelectric-list@matronics.com
> Subject: AeroElectric-List: RE: Windows crashes
>
>
Bob,
ME was the last version of Windows based on DOS. Windows 2000 Pro could be considered
NT 5, as it is based on NTFS, as is Windows XP.
Charlie Kuss
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| Subject: | Re: Pilot Automotive landing lights |
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "rwilliams" <rwilliams@C1ama.net>
I'm a total electrical ignoramus, so please be patient with my questions
about landing/taxi lights!
I know how normal tungsten lights work and how halogen lights operate. What
are the advantages and disadvantages of Xenon and HID lights?
What are the FAA requirements (if any) for landing lights?
Thanks!
Bob Williams
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--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Robert L. Nuckolls, III" <bob.nuckolls@cox.net>
At 07:47 AM 6/18/2003 -0500, you wrote:
>--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: <315@cox.net>
>
>Hi Bob,
>
>I ordered the S700-2-3 2 position switch based on page 11-18 of the
>"Connection" where you mention that it is recommended for combination
>battery-master/alternator-field switching. I installed it not utilizing
>the upper poles. In the down position all is off. In the up postion both
>the battery and the alternator contactors are energized.
Earliest versions of power distribution diagrams suggested the 2-3 on-on
switch for both battery and alternator because (1) there is no operational
imperative or advantage in NOT having an alternator ON during cranking, (2)
it reduces the number of checklist items by one step because you don't
have to set DC PWR MASTER switch to ALT position after engine start and
(3) if you have a breaker supplied crowbar OVM and use a PULLABLE breaker,
then there is still a handy way to turn off a misbehaving alternator in
flight and disable the alternator for battery-only, ground-ops.
If I were building an airplane today, I'd probably go the 2-3 switch and
crowbar-breaker route as the simplest, lowest cost approach to DC power
system management.
>Now looking at:
>
>http://216.55.140.222/temp/Switches.pdf
>
>I see the labeling of the switch for "DC Power master, Battery" appears to
>show an Off-On-On 3 position switch where the battery can be turned on by
>itself and then the alternator can be engaged. I would like to be able to
>turn on the battery without the alternator for power supply without the
>alternator energized. I don't see an Off-On-On switch listed on page
>11-16. What am I missing about the Swich indicated in the PDF file above?
>Is there a Off-On-On 3 position switch? Or can another be wired in this way?
. . . 2-10 switch is an ON-ON-ON . . . you make it an OFF-ON-ON by
not connecting a wire to one of the ON positions. Later revisions
to Z-figures show how the 2-10 switch can be wired to provide the
OFF-ON-ON feature you've noted.
>Also, I need a 2-1 3 position switch to switch from one ignition coil to
>the other ignition coil so that only one is on at a time. This switch is
>not listed on the Aeroelectric parts list on the B&C web site. Where is a
>good place to find it?
Carling 2GM51-73 on http://www.mouser.com/catalog/613/645.pdf
Bob . . .
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--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Robert L. Nuckolls, III" <bob.nuckolls@cox.net>
At 07:59 AM 6/18/2003 -0400, you wrote:
>--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: RVEIGHTA@aol.com
>
>Bob, I have a Microair radio which has worked perfectly during taxi tests of
>my RV-8A, but recently on my first flight, although my ground crew had heard
>me perfectly when I taxiied out to the runway, once I was in the air, they
>heard nothing but static when I transmitted.
>
>I have since tracked the noise down to my turn coordinator. When the turn
>coordinator is not running, transmissions are clear. When it is, i'm
>unreadable.
>Does the turn coordinator require a shielded power supply wire?
>
>Walt Shipley
Sounds like you may have one of those famously noisy turn
coordinators that pop up with problems here on the list. You
can try a DC power filter
http://www.aeroelectric.com/articles/filter/filter.html
If your noise turns out to be magnetically coupled (also common
with this instrument) you can try cutting a piece of flashing
steel to a width equal to case length behind panel and long
enough to wrap around the instrument about three times.
Hold strip of metal on instrument with tye-wrap or glass
fiber strapping tape.
Bob . . .
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| Subject: | RE: Windows crashes |
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Bert Penney" <van@entechnos.com>
Carlos,
If your W2K machine is crashing every other day, I suggest that you run
"winnt32 /checkupgradeonly" to verify that all your hardware is W2K
compliant. I have a number of W2K machines here and I rarely reboot any
of them.
Bert
-----Original Message-----
From: Carlos Sa [mailto:carlosfsa@yahoo.com]
Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: RE: Windows crashes
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Carlos Sa <carlosfsa@yahoo.com>
My joke with the "no crash button" relates to the frequent crashes I
have with
Windows.
(In my case, Win 2000 Pro)
Each release of Windows is, indeed, less crash-prone than the previous.
However, it still is a unreliable OS, at least for my requirements.
nything that goes belly up on my every other day doesn't qualify as
reliable.
Now I have to end this note, as I just got a msg from WIndows saying I'm
low on
memory, what means that Windows (or Windows applications) did not clean
up memory
properly.
Shall we get back to airplanes and electric stuff, please ?
do not archive
Carlos
... CRASH ...
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| Subject: | Pilot Automotive landing lights |
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Rob Housman" <RobH@hyperion-ef.com>
Both Xe and HID lamps are gas discharge lamps, with the primary advantage of
being resistant to damage from vibration (no filament to break), and since
there is no free lunch the disadvantage of both is initial cost especially
for Xe lamps which require an expensive high voltage power supply. Both
types provide illumination that is closer to daylight than tungsten or
halogen lamps - Xe is essentially the same color temperature as sunlight
which is why Xe lamps are used for studio lighting and cinema projection.
For a landing light on an aircraft with a limited power budget the HID lamp
would be a good choice because a 10 watt HID lamp will give approximately as
much light as a conventional 55 watt halogen headlight. Lamp life would be
on the order of the typical aircraft engine's TBO.
A quick search turned up this link for a small HID lamp suitable for either
a landing or taxi light (the beam is adjustable):
http://www.sarind.com/acatalog/hid.html Cheap it is not at US$380 but it
is mounted in a housing suitable for underwater use so rain would not affect
it. For about $100 more check out an automotive lighting HID conversion kit
with two "low beam" lamps at
http://www.eautoworks.com/html/ORD-1-1-1-5667.cfm (but these are rather
large lamps).
The FAR 91.205 (c) (4) requires "If the aircraft is operated for hire, one
electric landing light. " That's all.
Best regards,
Rob Housman
Europa XS Tri-Gear A070
Airfarame complete
Irvine, CA
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of rwilliams
Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: Pilot Automotive landing lights
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "rwilliams" <rwilliams@C1ama.net>
I'm a total electrical ignoramus, so please be patient with my questions
about landing/taxi lights!
I know how normal tungsten lights work and how halogen lights operate. What
are the advantages and disadvantages of Xenon and HID lights?
What are the FAA requirements (if any) for landing lights?
Thanks!
Bob Williams
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| Subject: | Pilot Automotive landing lights |
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Mark Steitle <msteitle@mail.utexas.edu>
FWIW, Pilot Automotive has a 4" round HID. No price quoted. Supposedly
available at Pep Boys, Auto Zone, and others.
See http://www.pilotautomotive.com/pilot2ad1.htm
At 10:48 AM 6/18/2003 -0700, you wrote:
>--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Rob Housman" <RobH@hyperion-ef.com>
>
>Both Xe and HID lamps are gas discharge lamps, with the primary advantage of
>being resistant to damage from vibration (no filament to break), and since
>there is no free lunch the disadvantage of both is initial cost especially
>for Xe lamps which require an expensive high voltage power supply. Both
>types provide illumination that is closer to daylight than tungsten or
>halogen lamps - Xe is essentially the same color temperature as sunlight
>which is why Xe lamps are used for studio lighting and cinema projection.
>
>For a landing light on an aircraft with a limited power budget the HID lamp
>would be a good choice because a 10 watt HID lamp will give approximately as
>much light as a conventional 55 watt halogen headlight. Lamp life would be
>on the order of the typical aircraft engine's TBO.
>
>A quick search turned up this link for a small HID lamp suitable for either
>a landing or taxi light (the beam is adjustable):
>http://www.sarind.com/acatalog/hid.html Cheap it is not at US$380 but it
>is mounted in a housing suitable for underwater use so rain would not affect
>it. For about $100 more check out an automotive lighting HID conversion kit
>with two "low beam" lamps at
>http://www.eautoworks.com/html/ORD-1-1-1-5667.cfm (but these are rather
>large lamps).
>
>The FAR 91.205 (c) (4) requires "If the aircraft is operated for hire, one
>electric landing light. " That's all.
>
>
>Best regards,
>
>Rob Housman
>Europa XS Tri-Gear A070
>Airfarame complete
>Irvine, CA
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com
>[mailto:owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of rwilliams
>To: aeroelectric-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: Pilot Automotive landing lights
>
>--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "rwilliams" <rwilliams@C1ama.net>
>
>I'm a total electrical ignoramus, so please be patient with my questions
>about landing/taxi lights!
>
>I know how normal tungsten lights work and how halogen lights operate. What
>are the advantages and disadvantages of Xenon and HID lights?
>
>What are the FAA requirements (if any) for landing lights?
>
>Thanks!
>
>Bob Williams
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: RE: Windows crashes |
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Cy Galley" <cgalley@qcbc.org>
I use Windows 2000 Pro, seldom shut it off, seldom crashes. My biggest
problem is that it will slow down after I open several internet explorer
windows (16 or more). I like the ability to do the 3 finger salute and shut
down links that are left after using such programs as acrobat and a couple
others. I check these when I remember. But I just don't shut my computer
off. I use a fire wall. It generally runs from install of some software or
update to the next before I even re-boot. This was not the case with
windows 95 or 98.
Cy Galley - Bellanca Champion Club
Newsletter Editor & EAA TC
www.bellanca-championclub.com
Actively supporting Aeroncas every day
Quarterly newsletters on time
Reasonable document reprints
1-518-731-6800
----- Original Message -----
From: "Carlos Sa" <carlosfsa@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: RE: Windows crashes
> --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Carlos Sa <carlosfsa@yahoo.com>
>
> My joke with the "no crash button" relates to the frequent crashes I have
with
> Windows.
> (In my case, Win 2000 Pro)
>
> Each release of Windows is, indeed, less crash-prone than the previous.
> However, it still is a unreliable OS, at least for my requirements.
> nything that goes belly up on my every other day doesn't qualify as
reliable.
>
> Now I have to end this note, as I just got a msg from WIndows saying I'm
low on
> memory, what means that Windows (or Windows applications) did not clean up
memory
> properly.
>
> Shall we get back to airplanes and electric stuff, please ?
>
>
> do not archive
>
> Carlos
>
> ... CRASH ...
>
>
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| Subject: | Pilot Automotive landing lights |
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Scot Stambaugh <sstambaugh@qualcomm.com>
If you are looking for a turnkey solution for the RV family of aircraft
take a look at the link below and click on "New Products" under the picture
of the 2 RV's. I just got two kits (landing and taxi) for my Rocket and
the package is very nice. it could be modified to fit a lot of different
installation applications.
http://www.duckworksaviation.com/
scot
At 01:42 PM 6/18/2003 -0500, Mark Steitle wrote:
>--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Mark Steitle
><msteitle@mail.utexas.edu>
>
>FWIW, Pilot Automotive has a 4" round HID. No price quoted. Supposedly
>available at Pep Boys, Auto Zone, and others.
> See http://www.pilotautomotive.com/pilot2ad1.htm
>
>
>At 10:48 AM 6/18/2003 -0700, you wrote:
> >--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Rob Housman"
> <RobH@hyperion-ef.com>
> >
> >Both Xe and HID lamps are gas discharge lamps, with the primary advantage of
> >being resistant to damage from vibration (no filament to break), and since
> >there is no free lunch the disadvantage of both is initial cost especially
> >for Xe lamps which require an expensive high voltage power supply. Both
> >types provide illumination that is closer to daylight than tungsten or
> >halogen lamps - Xe is essentially the same color temperature as sunlight
> >which is why Xe lamps are used for studio lighting and cinema projection.
> >
> >For a landing light on an aircraft with a limited power budget the HID lamp
> >would be a good choice because a 10 watt HID lamp will give approximately as
> >much light as a conventional 55 watt halogen headlight. Lamp life would be
> >on the order of the typical aircraft engine's TBO.
> >
> >A quick search turned up this link for a small HID lamp suitable for either
> >a landing or taxi light (the beam is adjustable):
> >http://www.sarind.com/acatalog/hid.html Cheap it is not at US$380 but it
> >is mounted in a housing suitable for underwater use so rain would not affect
> >it. For about $100 more check out an automotive lighting HID conversion kit
> >with two "low beam" lamps at
> >http://www.eautoworks.com/html/ORD-1-1-1-5667.cfm (but these are rather
> >large lamps).
> >
> >The FAR 91.205 (c) (4) requires "If the aircraft is operated for hire, one
> >electric landing light. " That's all.
> >
> >
> >Best regards,
> >
> >Rob Housman
> >Europa XS Tri-Gear A070
> >Airfarame complete
> >Irvine, CA
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com
> >[mailto:owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of rwilliams
> >To: aeroelectric-list@matronics.com
> >Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: Pilot Automotive landing lights
> >
> >--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "rwilliams" <rwilliams@C1ama.net>
> >
> >I'm a total electrical ignoramus, so please be patient with my questions
> >about landing/taxi lights!
> >
> >I know how normal tungsten lights work and how halogen lights operate. What
> >are the advantages and disadvantages of Xenon and HID lights?
> >
> >What are the FAA requirements (if any) for landing lights?
> >
> >Thanks!
> >
> >Bob Williams
> >
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | Pilot Automotive landing lights |
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Robert L. Nuckolls, III" <bob.nuckolls@cox.net>
At 10:48 AM 6/18/2003 -0700, you wrote:
>--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Rob Housman" <RobH@hyperion-ef.com>
>
>Both Xe and HID lamps are gas discharge lamps, with the primary advantage of
>being resistant to damage from vibration (no filament to break), and since
>there is no free lunch the disadvantage of both is initial cost especially
>for Xe lamps which require an expensive high voltage power supply. Both
>types provide illumination that is closer to daylight than tungsten or
>halogen lamps - Xe is essentially the same color temperature as sunlight
>which is why Xe lamps are used for studio lighting and cinema projection.
>
>For a landing light on an aircraft with a limited power budget the HID lamp
>would be a good choice because a 10 watt HID lamp will give approximately as
>much light as a conventional 55 watt halogen headlight. Lamp life would be
>on the order of the typical aircraft engine's TBO.
>
>A quick search turned up this link for a small HID lamp suitable for either
>a landing or taxi light (the beam is adjustable):
>http://www.sarind.com/acatalog/hid.html Cheap it is not at US$380 but it
>is mounted in a housing suitable for underwater use so rain would not affect
>it. For about $100 more check out an automotive lighting HID conversion kit
>with two "low beam" lamps at
>http://www.eautoworks.com/html/ORD-1-1-1-5667.cfm (but these are rather
>large lamps).
>
>The FAR 91.205 (c) (4) requires "If the aircraft is operated for hire, one
>electric landing light. " That's all.
A caveat on HID lamps . . . we installed on the AGATE Bonanza
at RAC a couple of years ago. It was the Lopresti kit I believe.
Really nice for night ops . . . however . . . because its color
temperature is so much higher that incandescent lamps, it's
practically invisible against daylight blue sky. Not nearly
so practical for daytime collision avoidance as lamps with
filaments in them.
For those wanting to know a bit more about these products,
here are some general informational links
http://www.plasmacoalition.org/plasma_writeups/lighting-plasmas.pdf
http://www.solarc.net/docs/divefaqs.html
http://www.livermoreperformance.com/Xenarc.html
http://www.autoresearchanalysts.com/feat06.html
http://www.xenon-hid.com/HID_HEADLIGHTS.htm
. . . and some technical ones . . .
http://www.ec-central.org/magazine/PDF/art_9_may_jun_00.pdf
http://www.ee.bgu.ac.il/~pel/pdf-files/conf56.pdf
Bob . . .
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| Subject: | Re: RE: Windows crashes |
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: klwerner@comcast.net
Cy,
That's Beautiful, just plain Beautiful, for whatever reason.
Do not archive
----- Original Message -----
From: Cy Galley
To: aeroelectric-list@matronics.com
Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2003 1:31 PM
Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: RE: Windows crashes
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Cy Galley" <cgalley@qcbc.org>
I use Windows 2000 Pro, seldom shut it off, seldom crashes. My biggest
problem is that it will slow down after I open several internet explorer
windows (16 or more). I like the ability to do the 3 finger salute and shut
down links that are left after using such programs as acrobat and a couple
others. I check these when I remember. But I just don't shut my computer
off. I use a fire wall. It generally runs from install of some software or
update to the next before I even re-boot. This was not the case with
windows 95 or 98.
Cy Galley - Bellanca Champion Club
Newsletter Editor & EAA TC
www.bellanca-championclub.com
Actively supporting Aeroncas every day
Quarterly newsletters on time
Reasonable document reprints
1-518-731-6800
----- Original Message -----
From: "Carlos Sa" <carlosfsa@yahoo.com>
To: <aeroelectric-list@matronics.com>
Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: RE: Windows crashes
> --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Carlos Sa <carlosfsa@yahoo.com>
>
> My joke with the "no crash button" relates to the frequent crashes I have
with
> Windows.
> (In my case, Win 2000 Pro)
>
> Each release of Windows is, indeed, less crash-prone than the previous.
> However, it still is a unreliable OS, at least for my requirements.
> nything that goes belly up on my every other day doesn't qualify as
reliable.
>
> Now I have to end this note, as I just got a msg from WIndows saying I'm
low on
> memory, what means that Windows (or Windows applications) did not clean up
memory
> properly.
>
> Shall we get back to airplanes and electric stuff, please ?
>
>
> do not archive
>
> Carlos
>
> ... CRASH ...
>
>
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| Subject: | RE: Windows crashes |
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Freddie Freeloader <lists@stevet.net>
Hello Cy,
Wednesday, June 18, 2003, 12:31:22 PM, you wrote:
-->> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Cy Galley" <cgalley@qcbc.org>
CG> I use Windows 2000 Pro, seldom shut it off, seldom crashes. My biggest
CG> problem is that it will slow down after I open several internet explorer
CG> windows (16 or more). I like the ability to do the 3 finger salute and shut
CG> down links that are left after using such programs as acrobat and a couple
CG> others. I check these when I remember. But I just don't shut my computer
CG> off. I use a fire wall. It generally runs from install of some software or
CG> update to the next before I even re-boot. This was not the case with
CG> windows 95 or 98.
Try using Mozilla (www.mozilla.org) as you web browser, instead. It
has built-in pop-up blocking, and you can open either multiple
windows, or multiple tabs in a single window. I often have many tabs
and windows open on Win2K with no slowness noted at all.
--
Best regards,
Freddie mailto:lists@stevet.net
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--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "David J. Spencer" <djs@54Transmission.com>
I just want to thank everybody who gave advice, tips and pointers about my
radio noise and static in our Beech A23-24 (Super3).
After installing a centre-point ground system along with new positive
battery cable, ammeter cable and circuit breakers for the alternator...
THERE IS NO NOISE OF ANY KIND... except the people I'm communicating with.
This is the best communication I've ever had in any of our planes and
especially the old renters we used to use...
Again... THANKS
David J. Spencer
Super3
djs@54Transmission.com
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| Subject: | Re: Push-to-test, indicator lamps, etc. |
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Neville Kilford" <nkilford@etravel.org>
Mark,
Thanks for that info. There are so many good bright LEDs that you're
right -- they probably are the way to go. A schematic would be very useful;
I'm rather hazy on the whole diode / ptt thing. Shall I download it from
somewhere or will you send?
Many thanks.
Nev
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mark Phillips" <ripsteel@edge.net>
Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: Push-to-test, indicator lamps, etc.
> --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Mark Phillips <ripsteel@edge.net>
>
> Hi Neville-
>
> I was originally going to build an annunciator panel with some neat
incandescent
> blocks that locked together, but after wrestling with the required diodes
and
> additional connections required for PTT, I took Bob Nuckolls' suggestion
and used
> LEDs instead. They are virtually permanent and are tested on every
preflight (well,
> most of them anyway) I just finished putting together a panel on the cheap
with 10
> main LED lamp units and four spares- the display is 140mm wide and 15mm
high (two
> rows of seven lamps). They are pretty much for the same functions you
mention, plus
> low fuel R/L, EIS main warning light, canopy latched, low oil pressure etc.
Here's a
> link to DigiKey's catalog page:
>
> http://dkc3.digikey.com/PDF/T032/1150.pdf
>
> The ones I used were Fig. 3 at the bottom of the page, MU04-X101, available
in red
> yellow and green, three LEDs in each unit for $1.32 ea. After some
testing, I opted
> to run them at 30ma to increase brightness (240 ohm resistors) which should
be okay
> as their duty cycle should be quite low. (I ran one for 4 weeks solid at
about 45ma
> without appreciable dimming) They are soldered direct to a phenolic
project board
> (fiberglass would probably be better) and wired to a 15 pin d-sub connector
on a 5"
> long pigtail. I've probably got about $40 in the whole thing. I'm also
planning to
> add a couple of zeners and a DPDT switch for a dimmer, just not sure what
value to
> use yet. The lettering overlay is simply part of an AutoCAD drawing
printed on clear
> plastic with a laser printer. Neat little roll yer own project.
>
> I've got the schematic in AutoCAD if you'd like a copy.
>
> >From The PossumWorks in TN
> Mark
>
> Neville Kilford wrote:
>
> > I'd like a handful of indicators on the panel -- fuel pump on, starter
> > engaged, flaps extended, lo-v, etc. Can I simply wire them in parallel
with
> > their related equipment, e.g. wire a "starter engaged" light in parallel
with
> > the starter motor? And do you have any suggestions about good places to
buy
> > annunciator lamps and whatnot? I guess there must be some nice looking
kit
> > around.
>
>
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| Subject: | RE: Windows crashes |
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "fellowsw" <fellows.w@ewcapital.net>
I have had more problems with windows xp pro than with 98. I know this is
contrary to conventional wisdom but true. The hanging up seems related to
network/internet settings and it has gotten much better after installing the
50 or more patches available since I got it.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Robert L.
Nuckolls, III
Subject: AeroElectric-List: RE: Windows crashes
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Robert L. Nuckolls, III"
<bob.nuckolls@cox.net>
At 08:00 AM 6/18/2003 -0400, you wrote:
>--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Carlos Sa <carlosfsa@yahoo.com>
>
>Where can I get a "do not crash" switch?
>
>
>I'd like to install one on Windows.
>
>
>Carlos
>
>(just to be sure, do not archive)
If you're not already using it, try WinXp. Of all
the versions I've used (3.11, 95, 98, ME, XP) it
has proven the most stable . . . (I believe ME
and XP have WinNT heritages. NT was more graceful
than the DOS versions of Windows from square-one).
You might still have PROGRAMS that crash but the
NT descendants of Windows have better behavior
for closing and cleaning up after an application
crash without causing you to reboot the whole
computer.
Bob . . .
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