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1. 05:25 AM - Re: Automobile lights (Cy Galley)
2. 06:33 AM - Re: Connectors for 4352 lamps (Robert L. Nuckolls, III)
3. 09:12 AM - Automobile lights (BAKEROCB@aol.com)
4. 09:43 AM - Re: Automobile lights (Mark Steitle)
5. 03:34 PM - Re: Re: Connectors for 4352 lamps (William Slaughter)
6. 03:52 PM - VIRUS (Ken Brooks)
7. 04:44 PM - Re: Radio Noise (rwilliams)
8. 06:45 PM - Automotive lights (Jim Duckett)
9. 07:18 PM - Re: Automobile lights (Mike Heinen)
10. 08:04 PM - Auto Lights (Jim Duckett)
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| Subject: | Re: Automobile lights |
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Cy Galley" <cgalley@qcbc.org>
Since these light have been around for over 10 years I believe, a Junk yard
should have the connectors.
Cy Galley, TC - Chair, Emergency Aircraft Repair, Oshkosh
Editor, EAA Safety Programs
cgalley@qcbc.org or experimenter@eaa.org
Always looking for articles for the Experimenter
----- Original Message -----
From: <BAKEROCB@aol.com>
Subject: AeroElectric-List: Automobile lights
> --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: BAKEROCB@aol.com
>
> AeroElectric-List message previously posted by: Mark Steitle
> <msteitle@mail.utexas.edu>
>
> <<OC, Bob has referenced a small, compact automotive headlight, #4352
that
> is
> only about 1-3/4 tall and about 5-1/2" wide. I have been going through
the
> same dilemma as you and I went and bought a #4352 type recently and it is
a
> very small, rectangular shaped sealed halogen unit. With that said, you
> got my interest with the dual beamed Pilot unit. Price is quite a bit
more
> than the 4352 ($24.99 @ Auto Zone), but it seems worth it. Can you buy
> those locally, or do you have to order them from Pilot? Mark S. >>
>
> 6/19/2003
>
> Hello Mark, I bought my Pilot lights from an Auto Zone store that had a
Pilot
> catalog. I looked in the catalog and picked out the ones that I wanted and
> they ordered them for me. I don't know if Pilot will sell direct, but you
can
> find their lights on some other internet automobile parts / accessories
sellers.
>
> One other factor that went into me rejecting the OEM lights was the fact
that
> most of them had a unique / proprietory connector on the rear of the
sealed
> beam lens unit. To get the matching connector one had to go to the
automobile
> dealer and pay big bucks for the matching connector (often more than the
light
> itself from the after market store).
>
> Also there was the added weight of the connector. I suppose one could just
> solder to the tabs or what ever is on the back of the glass blob, but I
went
> with the aftermarket driving lights.
>
> Are you having any problems coming up with a mounting scheme for the
#4352?
>
> 'OC' Baker, Builder of KIS TR-1 #116 4/14/97 - ?/?/?
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Connectors for 4352 lamps |
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Robert L. Nuckolls, III" <bob.nuckolls@cox.net>
At 07:26 AM 6/20/2003 -0500, you wrote:
>--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Cy Galley" <cgalley@qcbc.org>
>
>Since these light have been around for over 10 years I believe, a Junk yard
>should have the connectors.
>
>Cy Galley, TC - Chair, Emergency Aircraft Repair, Oshkosh
good point . . . one of the cars that used this lamp was
a 96 Olds Cutlass . . . there were some others but I don't
recall them. Further, the connector is common to many single
filament lamps so finding a mate shouldn't be difficult
or expensive.
Bob . . .
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| Subject: | Automobile lights |
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: BAKEROCB@aol.com
AeroElectric-List message previously posted by: Mark Steitle
<msteitle@mail.utexas.edu>
<<....skip.....How did you mount the PL-1068 bulbs? Or do they come with a
mounting bracket? (any pics?)Mark S.>>
6/20/2003
Hello Mark, Yes. The PL-1068 light units are a glass lens front clamped into
a stamped metal shell that accepts removable bulbs from the back. They come
with separate metal mounting brackets.
I did not use their brackets, but instead made up some brackets out of
aluminum angle both for weight savings and suitability purposes. A minor "gotcha"
--
the short bolts that thread through the brackets into the metal shell have
metric threads and metric hex head sizes.
I will take some pictures today and by very good fortune I am near the end of
the film roll (normally it takes me months and months to finish a roll). If
you will provide me a snail mail address by direct email I will mail you some
copies (I have no electronic picture capability) as soon as they are developed.
'OC' Baker, Builder of KIS TR-1 #116 4/14/97 - ?/?/?
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| Subject: | Re: Automobile lights |
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Mark Steitle <msteitle@mail.utexas.edu>
At 12:11 PM 6/20/2003 -0400, you wrote:
>--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: BAKEROCB@aol.com
>
> AeroElectric-List message previously posted by: Mark Steitle
><msteitle@mail.utexas.edu>
>
><<....skip.....How did you mount the PL-1068 bulbs? Or do they come with a
>mounting bracket? (any pics?)Mark S.>>
>
>6/20/2003
>
>Hello Mark, Yes. The PL-1068 light units are a glass lens front clamped into
>a stamped metal shell that accepts removable bulbs from the back. They come
>with separate metal mounting brackets.
>
>I did not use their brackets, but instead made up some brackets out of
>aluminum angle both for weight savings and suitability purposes. A minor
>"gotcha" --
>the short bolts that thread through the brackets into the metal shell have
>metric threads and metric hex head sizes.
>
>I will take some pictures today and by very good fortune I am near the end of
>the film roll (normally it takes me months and months to finish a roll). If
>you will provide me a snail mail address by direct email I will mail you some
>copies (I have no electronic picture capability) as soon as they are
>developed.
>
>
>'OC' Baker, Builder of KIS TR-1 #116 4/14/97 - ?/?/?
OC,
That's very generous of you. Maybe I can get them scanned and post them
for the group to see, if that's ok with you.
Mark Steitle
24 Carriage House Ln
Austin, TX 78737
do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: Connectors for 4352 lamps |
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "William Slaughter" <willslau@alumni.rice.edu>
93 through 97 Camaros
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Robert
L. Nuckolls, III
Subject: AeroElectric-List: Re: Connectors for 4352 lamps
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Robert L. Nuckolls, III"
<bob.nuckolls@cox.net>
At 07:26 AM 6/20/2003 -0500, you wrote:
>--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Cy Galley" <cgalley@qcbc.org>
>
>Since these light have been around for over 10 years I believe, a Junk yard
>should have the connectors.
>
>Cy Galley, TC - Chair, Emergency Aircraft Repair, Oshkosh
good point . . . one of the cars that used this lamp was
a 96 Olds Cutlass . . . there were some others but I don't
recall them. Further, the connector is common to many single
filament lamps so finding a mate shouldn't be difficult
or expensive.
Bob . . .
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--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Ken Brooks" <kenbrooks@charter.net>
Dave, and fellow listers --
No reason to get your dander up just because you get suckered (yes, you
did, but so have a lot of us). It's a cryin' shame that some folks have
nothing better to do than manufacture paranoia for others, but I figure
God will have His way with them once they pass into the great "beyond"
and they will get their just desserts! In the meantime, I have learned
to suspect that something like this IS a hoax, and before I even mention
it to anyone else, I check it out on
www.snopes.com
This website is great, because it also deals with "urban legends" --
things that SOUND reasonable, but are pure fabrications aimed at getting
people to exclaim to all of their friends in their address books,
"Lookie what I heard (read) on the internet!! Isn't that awful?" Dave,
if it makes you feel any better, I got snookered 3 times about different
things and the same friend kept pointing me toward snopes.com to get the
point across (okay, so I'm a little s-l-o-w). All I'm saying is. .
.check it out first, then, if it's a legitimate virus let people know.
If you miss this all-important middle step (like deburring holes) --
GOTCHA!!
Now, back to those nutplates. . .and kindly do not archive.
Ken Brooks
RV-8QB in progress
N1903P reserved
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--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "rwilliams" <rwilliams@C1ama.net>
Mike:
I learned a great deal from your post. But usually when I learn something,
it raises more questions.
From what you wrote, I surmise that when wiring a composite aircraft, it
would be better to have two big ground leads coming off the battery, one to
electronics and the other to mechanicals (incl. lights?)-correct? Would it
also be a good idea to run these through a diode so that they could not
backfeed?
Thanks!
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| Subject: | Automotive lights |
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Jim Duckett <perfeng@3rivers.net>
Hi OC,
I'm using automotive lights of a sort too. They are a "modified" 4700
series ( same as used in 90's G.M. 4 light Camero's and P/U's). The
difference is these are similar to the ones you describe from pilot
except they are set up for a single capsule. I've mounted mine in both
wings using most of a Duckworks kit.
Haven't flown them yet but with a 100 watt capsule they definitely
throw the light down the road. They also have a wide enough flood
projection to see to the side for taxi. Another nice thing is they are
lighter than OEM and seem to be very well made. Seeing how the capsule
mounts from the rear I secured the housing to my cross rib with Fusor
adhesive (same thing we use to glue door hinges on vehicles).
I got these lights from AutoOptiks. They have a wide range of lights
and capsules from 35 Watts to 150 Watts in all shapes and sizes. You
can even order the housings with "city light" provisions but, why would
you want to unless you plan to taxi in downtown London.
I agree with you that after doing night drops in the garden spot of
Southeast Asia, landing on a improved runway is like driving in a major
city where lights are used so you are seen, not so much to see.
Jim Duckett -7A N708JD
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| Subject: | Re: Automobile lights |
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Mike Heinen" <mjheinen@adelphia.net>
I was wondering if a junk yard would be a source for less than $500 HID
lights too?
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--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Jim Duckett <perfeng@3rivers.net>
Mike,
All of the HID lights currently used by OEM are really spendy. At least
in the Northwest, most if not all salvage yards get at least 50% of new
cost for parts and more for special stuff like the HID lights. Short
answer, I don't think you'll find inexpensive OEM HID until a lot more
vehicles have them as standard equipment and a lot more of those
vehicles are being salvaged.
Do Not Archive
Jim Duckett, -7A
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