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1. 02:36 AM - Electrical courses on aerolearn.com (Mike Rice)
2. 05:38 AM - master solenoid (cary rhodes)
3. 06:11 AM - Re: master solenoid (Jim Streit)
4. 06:21 AM - Re: master solenoid (Neville Kilford)
5. 06:40 AM - Panel markings (Neville Kilford)
6. 06:42 AM - Re: Electrics/electronics education question (John Slade)
7. 07:20 AM - alternator wires (cary rhodes)
8. 07:30 AM - Re: Panel markings ()
9. 07:41 AM - Re: old link (Jeff Point)
10. 07:46 AM - Re: Panel markings (Bruce Gray)
11. 08:05 AM - Re: Dynon/SL70 Encoding (Pat Hatch)
12. 08:07 AM - Re: Panel markings (Robert L. Nuckolls, III)
13. 09:08 AM - Re: Re: Panel markings (Randy Pflanzer)
14. 09:24 AM - Re: old link (Robert L. Nuckolls, III)
15. 10:58 AM - Re: Re: terminal strips (Robert L. Nuckolls, III)
16. 11:37 AM - DON'T E-MAIL ME (Lane, Stacey)
17. 12:03 PM - BatteryTerminalBoltCorrosion (DAVID REEL)
18. 01:15 PM - Re: BatteryTerminalBoltCorrosion (Cy Galley)
19. 01:16 PM - Re: DON'T E-MAIL ME (Cy Galley)
20. 01:31 PM - 4-conductor shielded wire source (Dan Checkoway)
21. 02:52 PM - Re: 4-conductor shielded wire source (TSaccio@aol.com)
22. 03:19 PM - wire current & Resistance for 26ga wire. (WHigg1170@aol.com)
23. 05:39 PM - Re: Electrical courses on aerolearn.com (drew.schumann@us.army.mil)
24. 06:17 PM - Re: Re: Electrics/electronics education question (drew.schumann@us.army.mil)
25. 06:43 PM - Professsional Panel Construction (BAKEROCB@aol.com)
26. 06:49 PM - Re: Panel markings (J. Oberst)
27. 07:43 PM - Re: Electrics/electronics education question (drew.schumann@us.army.mil)
28. 09:54 PM - Re: Re: Electrics/electronics education question (Tony Babb)
29. 10:04 PM - Re: 4-conductor shielded wire source (Larry Bowen)
30. 10:24 PM - Re: Re: Electrics/electronics education (richard@riley.net)
31. 10:47 PM - Re: Re: Electrics/electronics education question (drew.schumann@us.army.mil)
32. 11:11 PM - Re: Re: Electrics/electronics education question (drew.schumann@us.army.mil)
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| Subject: | Electrical courses on aerolearn.com |
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Mike Rice <mrice5@austin.rr.com>
> Drew-
> Some of Bob's Aeroconnection courses are available on Aerolearn.com,
> along with a variety of other electrical and electronic subjects. All
> courses on Aerolearn are free, and are primarily of interest to
> Aircraft Maintenance Technicians. You have to register to access the
> site.
>
> Hope this helps,
> Mike Rice
> Aerolearn.com
>
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--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: cary rhodes <rhodeseng@yahoo.com>
Gentlemen
I was checking out the function of the switches on the
firewall last nite.
The starter sol snapped closed when applying 12V to
the coil as it should.
The master didn't
It has one small electrical connection and two big
ones.
If I understand the machine, applying 12v to the small
pin would energize the coil and close the big switch.
The other side of the coil would be the firewall
ground.
it is bolted to the firewall.
I guess I could have a faulty solenoid
Any suggestions?
its a rv-7 and I'm working on misc wiring and panel.
thanks
cary rhodes
__________________________________
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| Subject: | Re: master solenoid |
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Jim Streit <wooody04@bellsouth.net>
Cary, You need to ground the small connection to activate the coil / (sol.)
Jim Streit
90073
cary rhodes wrote:
>--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: cary rhodes <rhodeseng@yahoo.com>
>
>Gentlemen
>
>I was checking out the function of the switches on the
>firewall last nite.
>
>The starter sol snapped closed when applying 12V to
>the coil as it should.
>
>The master didn't
>
>It has one small electrical connection and two big
>ones.
>
>If I understand the machine, applying 12v to the small
>pin would energize the coil and close the big switch.
>
>The other side of the coil would be the firewall
>ground.
>
>it is bolted to the firewall.
>
>I guess I could have a faulty solenoid
>
>Any suggestions?
>
>its a rv-7 and I'm working on misc wiring and panel.
>
>thanks
>
>cary rhodes
>
>
>__________________________________
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: master solenoid |
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Neville Kilford" <nkilford@etravel.org>
Hi Cary,
It's the other way round for a battery contactor -- the coil is connected to
the fat input terminal internally (i.e. it's at 12V), so you must put
negative on to the small terminal. The master switch should route this small
terminal to the ground.
Cheers.
Nev
----- Original Message -----
From: "cary rhodes" <rhodeseng@yahoo.com>
Subject: AeroElectric-List: master solenoid
> --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: cary rhodes <rhodeseng@yahoo.com>
>
> Gentlemen
>
> I was checking out the function of the switches on the
> firewall last nite.
>
> The starter sol snapped closed when applying 12V to
> the coil as it should.
>
> The master didn't
>
> It has one small electrical connection and two big
> ones.
>
> If I understand the machine, applying 12v to the small
> pin would energize the coil and close the big switch.
>
> The other side of the coil would be the firewall
> ground.
>
> it is bolted to the firewall.
>
> I guess I could have a faulty solenoid
>
> Any suggestions?
>
> its a rv-7 and I'm working on misc wiring and panel.
>
> thanks
>
> cary rhodes
>
>
> __________________________________
>
>
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--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Neville Kilford" <nkilford@etravel.org>
Hi guys,
I've noted on Bob's toggle switch layouts that they look fantastic with all
the text and boxes marked on the panel. How does one get a neat job of this,
and other placarding, on a real panel? I can only think of screen printing,
but it would be pretty expensive for a one-off.
Any suggestions or experiences gratefully appreciated.
Cheers.
Nev
--
Jodel D150 in progress
UK
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| Subject: | Electrics/electronics education question |
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "John Slade" <sladerj@bellsouth.net>
> So. My question to the list, is, "What would be a good way to
> gain experience with electronic stuff, having rather limited
> access to equipment I can actually touch a mess with?"
You could build one of the marker beacon / audio panel kits at
http://rst-engr.com/
John Slade
Cozy IV
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| Subject: | alternator wires |
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: cary rhodes <rhodeseng@yahoo.com>
You guys did such a good job w/ the first question, I
will see it I can solve another.
My nippon Denso alternator has a plug w/ three wires.
There are marked IG, DL and L. Big white, black w/
yellow stripe, and yellow respectively.
I got it on the big white wire, its the current out
wire.
One of the others is the field or excitation and the
other may be a indicator light or something.
Which which is which.
thanks
cary
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| Subject: | Re: Panel markings |
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: <racker@rmci.net>
Nev,
I used Chris Good's labeling method. Looks good, durable in actual use,
and not permanent in case you need to switch things around (as I have):
http://www.rv.supermatrix.com/ , click on Photo Log and then Panel.
Rob Acker (RV-6 flying)
do not archive
> --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Neville Kilford"
> <nkilford@etravel.org>
>
> Hi guys,
>
> I've noted on Bob's toggle switch layouts that they look fantastic with
> all the text and boxes marked on the panel. How does one get a neat job
> of this, and other placarding, on a real panel? I can only think of
> screen printing, but it would be pretty expensive for a one-off.
>
> Any suggestions or experiences gratefully appreciated.
>
> Cheers.
>
> Nev
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--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Jeff Point <jpoint@mindspring.com>
That's just the one. I was looking for the picture of the E-bus diode
showing the proper way to wire it.
Like others, I am finding B & C's website less useful and more difficult
to navigate after the recent "upgrade" and I will make my feelings known
to them. Perhaps a link on the Aeroelectric home page to your picture
page would be a useful and easy upgrade.
Jeff Point
Robert L. Nuckolls, III wrote:
>--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Robert L. Nuckolls, III" <bob.nuckolls@cox.net>
>
>At 07:38 AM 7/17/2003 -0500, you wrote:
>
>
>>--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Jeff Point <jpoint@mindspring.com>
>>
>>Bob,
>>
>>Found this old link in the archives, which is no longer active. Is this
>>file available elsewhere on your site?
>>http://aeroelectric.com/Catalog/wiring/s401-25.jpg
>>
>>
>
> That photo was part of the website catalog for parts
> and materials that are no longer offered for sale
> from my website. Many of the pictures associated with
> the catalog are still useful for illustrative purposes
> so I've created a directory on the server as a repository
> for photos. You can find the one you're looking for
> at:
> http://www.aeroelectric.com/Pictures
>
> Bob. . .
>
>
>
>
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--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Bruce Gray" <Bruce@glasair.org>
Check out www.engravers.net
Bruce
www.glasair.org
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
Neville Kilford
Subject: AeroElectric-List: Panel markings
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Neville Kilford"
<nkilford@etravel.org>
Hi guys,
I've noted on Bob's toggle switch layouts that they look fantastic with
all
the text and boxes marked on the panel. How does one get a neat job of
this,
and other placarding, on a real panel? I can only think of screen
printing,
but it would be pretty expensive for a one-off.
Any suggestions or experiences gratefully appreciated.
Cheers.
Nev
--
Jodel D150 in progress
UK
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| Subject: | Re: Dynon/SL70 Encoding |
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Pat Hatch" <pat_hatch@msn.com>
Larry,
Pin 35 is not required, D4 is a gray-code input from the encoder that is
only required above 30,750 feet or something like that. Not a problem.
Pat Hatch
RV-4
RV-6
RV-7 QB (Building)
Vero Beach, FL
----- Original Message -----
From: "Larry Bowen" <Larry@BowenAero.com>
Subject: RE: AeroElectric-List: Dynon/SL70 Encoding
> --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Larry Bowen"
<Larry@BowenAero.com>
>
> I'm confused then. Looking at their documentation, D4 is pin 35. Or am
> I looking at it wrong?
>
> http://www.upsat.com/dwnlds/stackdoc/fullstackwiring.pdf <--bottom,
> right corner.
>
> Thanks,
>
> -
> Larry Bowen
> Larry@BowenAero.com
> http://BowenAero.com
> 2003 - The year of flight!
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: N67BT@aol.com [mailto:N67BT@aol.com]
> > Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2003 11:54 PM
> > To: aeroelectric-list@matronics.com
> > Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: Dynon/SL70 Encoding
> >
> >
> > --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: N67BT@aol.com
> >
> > Larry,
> >
> > According to UPSAT tech support the D4 is left unconnected.
> >
> > Bob Trumpfheller
> >
> > > The SL70 diagram from their web site illustrates everything nicely.
> > > Everything matches my pre-wire job. Except pin 35 (AKA
> > input "D4") is
> > > not wired. Hmm. Why not?
> >
> >
> > ==========
> > Matronics Forums.
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> > Search Engine: http://www.matronics.com/search
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> >
> >
> >
> >
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| Subject: | Re: Panel markings |
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Robert L. Nuckolls, III" <bob.nuckolls@cox.net>
At 02:40 PM 7/18/2003 +0100, you wrote:
>--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Neville Kilford"
><nkilford@etravel.org>
>
>Hi guys,
>
>I've noted on Bob's toggle switch layouts that they look fantastic with all
>the text and boxes marked on the panel. How does one get a neat job of this,
>and other placarding, on a real panel? I can only think of screen printing,
>but it would be pretty expensive for a one-off.
>
>Any suggestions or experiences gratefully appreciated.
I make panels like that for a dollar or two every so often
by printing the artwork onto a piece of paper, laminate
it in my office laminator (Sam's Club $70), center-punch
hole centers on panel through placard, cut holes with
punches, spot facers and/or step-drill, stick placard
down over holes with photographic dry-mount (large sheets
of double sided sticky tape), cut holes in placards
with Xacto knife and mount parts.
Here are a few examples:
http://216.55.140.222/temp/panela.jpg
http://216.55.140.222/temp/panelb.jpg
http://216.55.140.222/temp/panelc.jpg
Some of these panels are several years old and have
stood up against quite a bit of handling stresses.
You can lay out such panel placards using
any of the CAD programs on the CD offered from
my website for either $10 for hard CD or
free if you download
http://216.55.140.222/CD/AEC8_0.zip
FUTURA, TECHNIC, and VELVET-L (on the CD)
are good panel labeling fonts.
One builder resized the published
layout at
http://216.55.140.222/temp/Switches.pdf
in a copy machine, cut out the one he liked,
had it laminated and stuck it onto his
panel.
This is a labor intensive but very low material
cost approach to panel placard building. It's
so easy that if you don't like the way it came
out first time, or it gets damaged, it's easy
to revise and/or replace.
Bob . . .
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| Subject: | Re: Panel markings |
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Randy Pflanzer <F1Rocket@comcast.net>
Better yet, check out www.frontpanelexpress.com
Randy
F1 Rocket
http://mywebpages.comcast.net/F1Rocket/
----- Original Message -----
From: Bruce Gray <Bruce@glasair.org>
Subject: RE: AeroElectric-List: Panel markings
> --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Bruce Gray"
> <Bruce@glasair.org>
> Check out www.engravers.net
>
> Bruce
> www.glasair.org
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com
> [owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
> Neville Kilford
> To: aeroelectric-list@matronics.com
> Subject: AeroElectric-List: Panel markings
>
>
> --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Neville Kilford"
> <nkilford@etravel.org>
>
> Hi guys,
>
> I've noted on Bob's toggle switch layouts that they look fantastic
> withall
> the text and boxes marked on the panel. How does one get a neat
> job of
> this,
> and other placarding, on a real panel? I can only think of screen
> printing,
> but it would be pretty expensive for a one-off.
>
> Any suggestions or experiences gratefully appreciated.
>
> Cheers.
>
> Nev
>
> --
> Jodel D150 in progress
> UK
>
>
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--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Robert L. Nuckolls, III" <bob.nuckolls@cox.net>
At 09:49 AM 7/18/2003 -0500, you wrote:
>--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Jeff Point <jpoint@mindspring.com>
>
>That's just the one. I was looking for the picture of the E-bus diode
>showing the proper way to wire it.
>
>Like others, I am finding B & C's website less useful and more difficult
>to navigate after the recent "upgrade" and I will make my feelings known
>to them. Perhaps a link on the Aeroelectric home page to your picture
>page would be a useful and easy upgrade.
Keep in mind that as "owner" of the webite's format
I could easily integrate the "how to" information with
"what to" information. Our primary mission is
"how to" . . . B&C's mission is "what to" and
further, they don't own the format and they're
not in the business of writing "how to" articles.
Todd spent a LOT of time poking our catalog
into their existing format. He's still trimming
for errors. As you run across disconnects between
what we used to do and B&C is doing, let me or
Todd know and we'll see if we can pick up the
loose ends.
When you make suggestions to B&C, make them
constructive and remember that Todd and the folks
that you get to talk to with regularity are NOT
the folks who make major marketing decisions.
So don't hammer on 'em, just provide useful
input. If you think a product could use some
"how to" information, let 'em know . . . if practical,
I'll do a Shop Notes or other article to
support that activity.
They'll forward your comments to powers that be
and MAYBE it will have an effect that pleases you,
maybe it won't . . . but it is certain that without
feedback from the customer, what you see is
what you get.
This shouldn't become a contest or turf war . . .
but it can be a useful activity that ultimately
benefits us all.
Bob . . .
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| Subject: | Re: terminal strips |
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Robert L. Nuckolls, III" <bob.nuckolls@cox.net>
At 10:05 PM 7/17/2003 -0700, you wrote:
>--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Dan Checkoway" <dan@rvproject.com>
>
> > oooohhhh . . . how did you decide to insert so many threaded
> > fasteners into your system? I really do my best to inject no
> > threaded fastener where it can be avoided.
>
>Good question. I do have a 10-circuit AMP Commercial MATE-N-LOK connector
>and pins...I suppose that's just as good as a terminal strip for being able
>to reassign functions by simply moving pins, huh (this is for stick switch
>wiring assignments). Hm...maybe I'll switch to the connector.
How about a d-sub? Smaller, has strain-relief hoods.
Can use machined pins . . .
Bob . . .
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--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Lane, Stacey" <Stacey.Lane@cingular.com>
DO NOT SEND ME ANY MORE OF THESE E-MAILS.... I HAVE NOT REQUESTED NOR DO I
WANT THEM
-----Original Message-----
From: Robert L. Nuckolls, III [mailto:bob.nuckolls@cox.net]
Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: Re: terminal strips
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Robert L. Nuckolls, III"
<bob.nuckolls@cox.net>
At 10:05 PM 7/17/2003 -0700, you wrote:
>--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Dan Checkoway"
<dan@rvproject.com>
>
> > oooohhhh . . . how did you decide to insert so many threaded
> > fasteners into your system? I really do my best to inject no
> > threaded fastener where it can be avoided.
>
>Good question. I do have a 10-circuit AMP Commercial MATE-N-LOK connector
>and pins...I suppose that's just as good as a terminal strip for being able
>to reassign functions by simply moving pins, huh (this is for stick switch
>wiring assignments). Hm...maybe I'll switch to the connector.
How about a d-sub? Smaller, has strain-relief hoods.
Can use machined pins . . .
Bob . . .
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| Subject: | BatteryTerminalBoltCorrosion |
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "DAVID REEL" <dreel@cox.net>
I'm thinking of replacing the 3/16 coarse thread bolts that came with my Panasonic
LC-RD1217P battery with cadmium plated fine thread AN bolts. Do the Panasonic
bolts have any special corrosion prevention properties that would be lost
by going to cadmium plate?
Dave Reel - RV8A
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| Subject: | Re: BatteryTerminalBoltCorrosion |
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Cy Galley" <cgalley@qcbc.org>
What would you gain by using fine threads? I just put a new battery in my
Bellanca today and they were coarse thread. Cad plate doesn't last long in
battery acid.
Cy Galley, TC - Chair, Emergency Aircraft Repair, Oshkosh
Editor, EAA Safety Programs
cgalley@qcbc.org or experimenter@eaa.org
Always looking for articles for the Experimenter
----- Original Message -----
From: "DAVID REEL" <dreel@cox.net>
Subject: AeroElectric-List: BatteryTerminalBoltCorrosion
> --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "DAVID REEL" <dreel@cox.net>
>
> I'm thinking of replacing the 3/16 coarse thread bolts that came with my
Panasonic LC-RD1217P battery with cadmium plated fine thread AN bolts. Do
the Panasonic bolts have any special corrosion prevention properties that
would be lost by going to cadmium plate?
>
> Dave Reel - RV8A
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: DON'T E-MAIL ME |
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Cy Galley" <cgalley@qcbc.org>
Why don't you just scroll down and use the link for subscriptions and
unsubscribe? No one else can do this simple job but you!
Cy Galley - Bellanca Champion Club
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Actively supporting Aeroncas every day
Quarterly newsletters on time
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From: "Lane, Stacey" <Stacey.Lane@cingular.com>
Subject: AeroElectric-List: DON'T E-MAIL ME
> --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Lane, Stacey"
<Stacey.Lane@cingular.com>
>
> DO NOT SEND ME ANY MORE OF THESE E-MAILS.... I HAVE NOT REQUESTED NOR DO I
> WANT THEM
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Robert L. Nuckolls, III [mailto:bob.nuckolls@cox.net]
> To: aeroelectric-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: Re: terminal strips
>
>
> --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Robert L. Nuckolls, III"
> <bob.nuckolls@cox.net>
>
> At 10:05 PM 7/17/2003 -0700, you wrote:
> >--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Dan Checkoway"
> <dan@rvproject.com>
> >
> > > oooohhhh . . . how did you decide to insert so many threaded
> > > fasteners into your system? I really do my best to inject no
> > > threaded fastener where it can be avoided.
> >
> >Good question. I do have a 10-circuit AMP Commercial MATE-N-LOK
connector
> >and pins...I suppose that's just as good as a terminal strip for being
able
> >to reassign functions by simply moving pins, huh (this is for stick
switch
> >wiring assignments). Hm...maybe I'll switch to the connector.
>
> How about a d-sub? Smaller, has strain-relief hoods.
> Can use machined pins . . .
>
> Bob . . .
>
>
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| Subject: | 4-conductor shielded wire source |
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Dan Checkoway" <dan@rvproject.com>
Can anybody recommend a source for 4-conductor shielded wire?
This is for the remote compass harness on the Dynon EFIS-D10. Power,
ground, tx, rx.
Thanks,
)_( Dan
RV-7 N714D
http://www.rvproject.com
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| Subject: | Re: 4-conductor shielded wire source |
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: TSaccio@aol.com
Try wire master @ 800 635-5342 or www.wiremasters.net
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| Subject: | wire current & Resistance for 26ga wire. |
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: WHigg1170@aol.com
Hello need some help on wire sizing, all my wire size charts only go up to 24
GA wire The vans instruments have 26 GA wire for the instrument lighting and
the charts don't give me the maximum current (amps) and resistance (ohms/ft)
IM looking for. What I want to do is connect one light to the next for six
lights but the wire coming from the lights is only 26 gage and I don't know if
at
the end when I have one 26 GA wire powering 6 instrument lights is big enough.
maybe this is not the way to wire them but how do I get 6 wires onto the one
screw on the circuit breaker. Thanks for any input.
Bill
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| Subject: | Re: Electrical courses on aerolearn.com |
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: drew.schumann@us.army.mil
Cool! Thanks a bunch.
Drew
----- Original Message -----
From: Mike Rice <mrice5@austin.rr.com>
Subject: AeroElectric-List: Electrical courses on aerolearn.com
> --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Mike Rice
> <mrice5@austin.rr.com>
> > Drew-
> > Some of Bob's Aeroconnection courses are available on
> Aerolearn.com,
> > along with a variety of other electrical and electronic
> subjects. All
> > courses on Aerolearn are free, and are primarily of interest to
> > Aircraft Maintenance Technicians. You have to register to access
> the
> > site.
> >
> > Hope this helps,
> > Mike Rice
> > Aerolearn.com
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Electrics/electronics education question |
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: drew.schumann@us.army.mil
Thanks for the suggestion, John. Unfortunately, the army (who so kindly allows
me access to this computer) has capriciously decided to filter out that site,
as an evil "hobbies" site.
I'll try to find a workaround to hack through the filter, (a guy has to have interests)
but for now, that site is on the face of the moon, for me.
Thanks for the interest. I really appreciate it.
Drew
----- Original Message -----
From: John Slade <sladerj@bellsouth.net>
Subject: RE: AeroElectric-List: Electrics/electronics education question
> --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "John Slade"
> <sladerj@bellsouth.net>
> > So. My question to the list, is, "What would be a good way to
> > gain experience with electronic stuff, having rather limited
> > access to equipment I can actually touch a mess with?"
> You could build one of the marker beacon / audio panel kits at
> http://rst-engr.com/
> John Slade
> Cozy IV
>
>
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| Subject: | Professsional Panel Construction |
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: BAKEROCB@aol.com
AeroElectric-List message previously posted by: Ron Patterson
<scc_ron@yahoo.com>
<<Anybody know where I can get a panel for my RV-4 that is custom made? I
have most of the avionics and need a fabricated unit to bolt up my radios to and
plug
in the wiring. (also want a pre-wired package prepared for me by an expert)
Ron Patterson scc_ron@yahoo.com 510-421-2316>>
7/18/2003
Hello Ron, It is a fur piece (as we say down home) from California to
Virginia, but I can highly recommend David Buckwalter (Avionics Systems Inc) right
here in Leesburg VA.
See his ad on page 25 of the July 2003 issue of Sport Aviation. His web site
is <<www.avionikits.com>>.
'OC' Baker, Builder of KIS TR-1 #116 4/14/97 - ?/?/?
PS: If you want to see a picture of the panel that he built for my plane send
me a mailing address by direct email and I'll send one or two to you.
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| Subject: | Re: Panel markings |
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "J. Oberst" <joberst@cox-internet.com>
I had vinyl lettering made by the local sign-maker. He had to try a couple
of times to get the vinyl cut just right so the small letters separated
well. I think we used 12-point. I had to separate the letters from the
background and pick out the centers... I couldn't pay that guy enough to do
it. But it wasn't very difficult, and it looks real good.
Jim Oberst
----- Original Message -----
From: "Neville Kilford" <nkilford@etravel.org>
Subject: AeroElectric-List: Panel markings
> --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Neville Kilford"
<nkilford@etravel.org>
>
> Hi guys,
>
> I've noted on Bob's toggle switch layouts that they look fantastic with
all
> the text and boxes marked on the panel. How does one get a neat job of
this,
> and other placarding, on a real panel? I can only think of screen
printing,
> but it would be pretty expensive for a one-off.
>
> Any suggestions or experiences gratefully appreciated.
>
> Cheers.
>
> Nev
>
> --
> Jodel D150 in progress
> UK
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Electrics/electronics education question |
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: drew.schumann@us.army.mil
Sorry, donations are not necessary. I just need to know where to order it from.
I'll be surfing as I'm able to find something appropriate.
Thanks for the thought, though.
Drew
----- Original Message -----
From: richard@riley.net
Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: Electrics/electronics education question
> --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: richard@riley.net
>
> I don't have the expertise to put together a kit that would be
> useful, but
> I'll contribute $20 toward it if anyone will put it together and
> send it out.
>
> You may be beyond it, but Bob has a Navy electronics course on his
> server,
> zipped PDF files. You can download it at
> http://216.55.140.222/CD/Text.zip
>
> At 09:36 AM 7/18/03 +0400, you wrote:
> >--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: drew.schumann@us.army.mil
> >
> >I am a new listmember and a new A&P. I was hired by a local
> airport, in
> >the hopes that I could "grow into" the job, and become an
> avionics
> >technician as well. After four weeks on the job, I was called to
> active
> >duty and am currently in Iraq. As a result of my MOS not being
> in very
> >big demand, I have a lot of spare time, and I'd like to make the
> maximum
> >use of that time. I am currently studying for my FCC General
> license
> >using a pre-programmed curriculum and have a good theoretical
> knowledge of
> >electricity/electronics, but what I lack is actual experience.
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Electrics/electronics education question |
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Tony Babb" <tonybabb@alejandra.net>
Drew,
Ok, so we need to find a site that the army hasn't filtered, right. Once
that's found all we need to do is put "stuff" there temporarily that you can
download right? Can you access www.alejandra.net/velocity ? If so perhaps
Bob can suggest some suitable articles/ materials that can be downloaded
from his site or elsewhere and uploaded to www.alejandra.net/velocity. We
can leave them there until you're done downloading then I'll delete them.
Cheers,
----- Original Message -----
From: <drew.schumann@us.army.mil>
Subject: Re: RE: AeroElectric-List: Electrics/electronics education question
> --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: drew.schumann@us.army.mil
>
> Thanks for the suggestion, John. Unfortunately, the army (who so kindly
allows me access to this computer) has capriciously decided to filter out
that site, as an evil "hobbies" site.
>
> I'll try to find a workaround to hack through the filter, (a guy has to
have interests) but for now, that site is on the face of the moon, for me.
>
> Thanks for the interest. I really appreciate it.
>
> Drew
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: John Slade <sladerj@bellsouth.net>
> Date: Friday, July 18, 2003 5:41 pm
> Subject: RE: AeroElectric-List: Electrics/electronics education question
>
> > --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "John Slade"
> > <sladerj@bellsouth.net>
> > > So. My question to the list, is, "What would be a good way to
> > > gain experience with electronic stuff, having rather limited
> > > access to equipment I can actually touch a mess with?"
> > You could build one of the marker beacon / audio panel kits at
> > http://rst-engr.com/
> > John Slade
> > Cozy IV
> >
> >
> > _-
> > _-
> > _-
> > _-
> > ======================================================================
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | 4-conductor shielded wire source |
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Larry Bowen" <Larry@BowenAero.com>
Doh!! I just made that harness using unshielded wire. Where is
shielded specified?
-
Larry Bowen
Larry@BowenAero.com
http://BowenAero.com
2003 - The year of flight!
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dan Checkoway [mailto:dan@rvproject.com]
> Sent: Friday, July 18, 2003 4:30 PM
> To: aeroelectric-list@matronics.com
> Subject: AeroElectric-List: 4-conductor shielded wire source
>
>
> --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Dan Checkoway"
> --> <dan@rvproject.com>
>
> Can anybody recommend a source for 4-conductor shielded wire?
>
> This is for the remote compass harness on the Dynon EFIS-D10.
> Power, ground, tx, rx.
>
> Thanks,
> )_( Dan
> RV-7 N714D
> http://www.rvproject.com
>
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question
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: richard@riley.net
Drew, try it this way, this gets past the filters in China and Iran right
now...
http://web.archive.org/web/20020122175550/http://rst-engr.com/
At 05:16 AM 7/19/03 +0400, you wrote:
>--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: drew.schumann@us.army.mil
>
>Thanks for the suggestion, John. Unfortunately, the army (who so kindly
>allows me access to this computer) has capriciously decided to filter out
>that site, as an evil "hobbies" site.
>
>I'll try to find a workaround to hack through the filter, (a guy has to
>have interests) but for now, that site is on the face of the moon, for me.
>
>Thanks for the interest. I really appreciate it.
>
>Drew
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: John Slade <sladerj@bellsouth.net>
>Date: Friday, July 18, 2003 5:41 pm
>Subject: RE: AeroElectric-List: Electrics/electronics education question
>
> > --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "John Slade"
> > <sladerj@bellsouth.net>
> > > So. My question to the list, is, "What would be a good way to
> > > gain experience with electronic stuff, having rather limited
> > > access to equipment I can actually touch a mess with?"
> > You could build one of the marker beacon / audio panel kits at
> > http://rst-engr.com/
> > John Slade
> > Cozy IV
> >
> >
> > _-
> > _-
> > _-
> > _-
> > ======================================================================
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Electrics/electronics education question |
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: drew.schumann@us.army.mil
Tony,
I can get to that site, and to Bob's. Not necessary to bring stuff from Bob's
to yours. Thank you very much for your efforts. As far as reading material is
concerned, I have plenty. I don't know how long it will take, but the aeroelectric
manual, I ordered yesterday and can keep quite busy through downloaded
stuff I can actually get to.
I enrolled in the elearn site and that is also very well. If you find anything
in the form of projects, please feel free to let me know, and if you'd like,
we could execute it much like you've described, if I cannot access it through
the army's filter.
Thank you for your help and concern. My compliments to your generous spouse, as
well. My wife, Ellen, who is the family pilot, is the wind under my wings as
well.
Drew
----- Original Message -----
From: Tony Babb <tonybabb@alejandra.net>
Subject: Re: RE: AeroElectric-List: Electrics/electronics education question
> --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Tony Babb"
> <tonybabb@alejandra.net>
> Drew,
>
> Ok, so we need to find a site that the army hasn't filtered,
> right. Once
> that's found all we need to do is put "stuff" there temporarily
> that you can
> download right? Can you access www.alejandra.net/velocity ? If so
> perhapsBob can suggest some suitable articles/ materials that can
> be downloaded
> from his site or elsewhere and uploaded to
> www.alejandra.net/velocity. We
> can leave them there until you're done downloading then I'll
> delete them.
>
> Cheers,
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <drew.schumann@us.army.mil>
> To: <aeroelectric-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Re: RE: AeroElectric-List: Electrics/electronics
> education question
>
>
> > --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: drew.schumann@us.army.mil
> >
> > Thanks for the suggestion, John. Unfortunately, the army (who
> so kindly
> allows me access to this computer) has capriciously decided to
> filter out
> that site, as an evil "hobbies" site.
> >
> > I'll try to find a workaround to hack through the filter, (a guy
> has to
> have interests) but for now, that site is on the face of the moon,
> for me.
> >
> > Thanks for the interest. I really appreciate it.
> >
> > Drew
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: John Slade <sladerj@bellsouth.net>
> > Date: Friday, July 18, 2003 5:41 pm
> > Subject: RE: AeroElectric-List: Electrics/electronics education
> question>
> > > --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "John Slade"
> > > <sladerj@bellsouth.net>
> > > > So. My question to the list, is, "What would be a good way to
> > > > gain experience with electronic stuff, having rather limited
> > > > access to equipment I can actually touch a mess with?"
> > > You could build one of the marker beacon / audio panel kits at
> > > http://rst-engr.com/
> > > John Slade
> > > Cozy IV
> > >
> > >
> > > _-
> > > _-
> > > _-
> > > _-
> > >
> ======================================================================> >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
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--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: drew.schumann@us.army.mil
Drew
----- Original Message -----
From: richard@riley.net
Subject: Re: RE: AeroElectric-List: Electrics/electronics education question
> --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: richard@riley.net
>
> Drew, try it this way, this gets past the filters in China and
> Iran right
> now...
>
> http://web.archive.org/web/20020122175550/http://rst-engr.com/
>
>
> At 05:16 AM 7/19/03 +0400, you wrote:
> >--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: drew.schumann@us.army.mil
> >
> >Thanks for the suggestion, John. Unfortunately, the army (who so
> kindly
> >allows me access to this computer) has capriciously decided to
> filter out
> >that site, as an evil "hobbies" site.
> >
> >I'll try to find a workaround to hack through the filter, (a guy
> has to
> >have interests) but for now, that site is on the face of the
> moon, for me.
> >
> >Thanks for the interest. I really appreciate it.
> >
> >Drew
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: John Slade <sladerj@bellsouth.net>
> >Date: Friday, July 18, 2003 5:41 pm
> >Subject: RE: AeroElectric-List: Electrics/electronics education
> question>
> > > --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "John Slade"
> > > <sladerj@bellsouth.net>
> > > > So. My question to the list, is, "What would be a good way to
> > > > gain experience with electronic stuff, having rather limited
> > > > access to equipment I can actually touch a mess with?"
> > > You could build one of the marker beacon / audio panel kits at
> > > http://rst-engr.com/
> > > John Slade
> > > Cozy IV
> > >
> > >
> > > _-
> > > _-
> > > _-
> > > _-
> > >
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> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
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>
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