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1. 12:11 AM - Re: 4-conductor shielded wire source (Dan Checkoway)
2. 06:40 AM - Re: Re: Electrics/electronics education question (drew.schumann@us.army.mil)
3. 06:51 AM - Re: Panel markings (BobsV35B@aol.com)
4. 09:47 AM - Re: BatteryTerminalBoltCorrosion (Jeff Point)
5. 10:00 AM - Re: Threadlocker on nuts (Mark Phillips)
6. 10:24 AM - Annunciator Panel on the cheap (Mark Phillips)
7. 10:31 AM - Re: BatteryTerminalBoltCorrosion (Cy Galley)
8. 10:36 AM - Switch Spacing (John Schroeder)
9. 11:20 AM - Lamp Assy. Need A Source.. (N2321G@aol.com)
10. 11:24 AM - Re: Threadlocker on nuts (John Schroeder)
11. 12:01 PM - Dynon encoder question (Russ Werner)
12. 12:13 PM - Temporairily off list (HCRV6@aol.com)
13. 12:21 PM - Re: Annunciator Panel on the cheap (Neville Kilford)
14. 12:57 PM - Re: Annunciator Panel on the cheap (John Schroeder)
15. 02:39 PM - Re: BatteryTerminalBoltCorrosion (DAVID REEL)
16. 03:24 PM - Re: Switch Spacing (Richard V. Reynolds)
17. 03:39 PM - Re: Switch Spacing (Dan Checkoway)
18. 08:57 PM - Re: Switch Spacing (Larry Bowen)
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| Subject: | Re: 4-conductor shielded wire source |
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Dan Checkoway" <dan@rvproject.com>
I spoke to Dynon and they said shielding isn't required, but it couldn't
hurt. They said what some people are doing is using 3-conductor shielded
wire and simply using the shield for ground. That's what I ended up doing
since I had plenty of 3-c wire around.
)_( Dan
----- Original Message -----
From: "Larry Bowen" <Larry@BowenAero.com>
Subject: RE: AeroElectric-List: 4-conductor shielded wire source
> --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Larry Bowen"
<Larry@BowenAero.com>
>
> Doh!! I just made that harness using unshielded wire. Where is
> shielded specified?
>
> -
> Larry Bowen
> Larry@BowenAero.com
> http://BowenAero.com
> 2003 - The year of flight!
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Dan Checkoway [mailto:dan@rvproject.com]
> > Sent: Friday, July 18, 2003 4:30 PM
> > To: aeroelectric-list@matronics.com
> > Subject: AeroElectric-List: 4-conductor shielded wire source
> >
> >
> > --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Dan Checkoway"
> > --> <dan@rvproject.com>
> >
> > Can anybody recommend a source for 4-conductor shielded wire?
> >
> > This is for the remote compass harness on the Dynon EFIS-D10.
> > Power, ground, tx, rx.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > )_( Dan
> > RV-7 N714D
> > http://www.rvproject.com
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| Subject: | Re: Electrics/electronics education question |
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: drew.schumann@us.army.mil
This message used to contain something that was derogatory, in a nice sort of way,
about the gentleman who rules our intranet with an iron fist. I find the
fact that he stripped the message and left the signature to be indicative of his
incredible sense of humor.
Drew
----- Original Message -----
From: drew.schumann@us.army.mil
Subject: Re: RE: AeroElectric-List: Electrics/electronics education question
> --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: drew.schumann@us.army.mil
>
>
> Drew
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: richard@riley.net
> Date: Saturday, July 19, 2003 9:23 am
> Subject: Re: RE: AeroElectric-List: Electrics/electronics
> education question
>
> > --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: richard@riley.net
> >
> > Drew, try it this way, this gets past the filters in China and
> > Iran right
> > now...
> >
> > http://web.archive.org/web/20020122175550/http://rst-engr.com/
> >
> >
> > At 05:16 AM 7/19/03 +0400, you wrote:
> > >--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: drew.schumann@us.army.mil
> > >
> > >Thanks for the suggestion, John. Unfortunately, the army (who
> so
> > kindly
> > >allows me access to this computer) has capriciously decided to
> > filter out
> > >that site, as an evil "hobbies" site.
> > >
> > >I'll try to find a workaround to hack through the filter, (a
> guy
> > has to
> > >have interests) but for now, that site is on the face of the
> > moon, for me.
> > >
> > >Thanks for the interest. I really appreciate it.
> > >
> > >Drew
> > >
> > >----- Original Message -----
> > >From: John Slade <sladerj@bellsouth.net>
> > >Date: Friday, July 18, 2003 5:41 pm
> > >Subject: RE: AeroElectric-List: Electrics/electronics education
> > question>
> > > > --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "John Slade"
> > > > <sladerj@bellsouth.net>
> > > > > So. My question to the list, is, "What would be a good
> way to
> > > > > gain experience with electronic stuff, having rather limited
> > > > > access to equipment I can actually touch a mess with?"
> > > > You could build one of the marker beacon / audio panel kits at
> > > > http://rst-engr.com/
> > > > John Slade
> > > > Cozy IV
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| Subject: | Re: Panel markings |
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: BobsV35B@aol.com
In a message dated 7/18/03 10:07:42 AM Central Daylight Time,
bob.nuckolls@cox.net writes:
> I make panels like that for a dollar or two every so often
> by printing the artwork onto a piece of paper, laminate
> it in my office laminator (Sam's Club $70), center-punch
> hole centers on panel through placard, cut holes with
> punches, spot facers and/or step-drill, stick placard
> down over holes with photographic dry-mount (large sheets
> of double sided sticky tape), cut holes in placards
> with Xacto knife and mount parts.
>
Good Morning Bob,
Have you ever tried it using the spray on photomount stuff instead of the
dry-mount material.
This is not a suggestion, just my curiosity!
Happy Skies,
Old Bob
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| Subject: | Re: BatteryTerminalBoltCorrosion |
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Jeff Point <jpoint@mindspring.com>
Of course, how much battery acid will a sealed RG battery like this
emit? I used a cad AN3 with a nut and lock washer. I'm happy to report
no corrosion in the week or so since making this change!
Jeff Point
Cy Galley wrote:
>--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Cy Galley" <cgalley@qcbc.org>
>
>What would you gain by using fine threads? I just put a new battery in my
>Bellanca today and they were coarse thread. Cad plate doesn't last long in
>battery acid.
>Cy Galley, TC - Chair, Emergency Aircraft Repair, Oshkosh
>
>Editor, EAA Safety Programs
>cgalley@qcbc.org or experimenter@eaa.org
>
>Always looking for articles for the Experimenter
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Threadlocker on nuts |
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Mark Phillips <ripsteel@edge.net>
Thanks Neville, Dick & Bob for clarifying this, the A-list does it again!
Mark do not archive
>I'd hesitate to use any thread sealant- I am doubtful it is very conductive stuff-
>if you wanted to use a thread locking compound on the nut, it won't hurn anything.
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| Subject: | Annunciator Panel on the cheap |
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Mark Phillips <ripsteel@edge.net>
Howdy A-list-
Several of y'all expressed an interest in the annunciator panel I
fabricated from the LED modules from DigiKey. Bob has graciously posted
the circuit diagram and board layout in pdf format on his server at:
http://216.55.140.222/temp/Annunciator_LVWM.pdf
If there is enough interest, I will try to send photos of the finished
unit to Matts photoshare.
Mark Phillips -do not archive-
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| Subject: | Re: BatteryTerminalBoltCorrosion |
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Cy Galley" <cgalley@qcbc.org>
Good point!
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jeff Point" <jpoint@mindspring.com>
Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: BatteryTerminalBoltCorrosion
> --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Jeff Point
<jpoint@mindspring.com>
>
> Of course, how much battery acid will a sealed RG battery like this
> emit? I used a cad AN3 with a nut and lock washer. I'm happy to report
> no corrosion in the week or so since making this change!
>
> Jeff Point
>
> Cy Galley wrote:
>
> >--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Cy Galley" <cgalley@qcbc.org>
> >
> >What would you gain by using fine threads? I just put a new battery in
my
> >Bellanca today and they were coarse thread. Cad plate doesn't last long
in
> >battery acid.
> >Cy Galley, TC - Chair, Emergency Aircraft Repair, Oshkosh
> >
> >Editor, EAA Safety Programs
> >cgalley@qcbc.org or experimenter@eaa.org
> >
> >Always looking for articles for the Experimenter
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: John Schroeder <jschroeder@perigee.net>
Bob -
What is a suggested spacing between the Carling switches on the panel?
Thanks,
John
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| Subject: | Lamp Assy. Need A Source.. |
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: N2321G@aol.com
Im working on a project for an some industrial equipment and I need a lamp
assembly as follows, (I seem to recall seeing these on GA airplanes)
Panel indicator lamp, made in a fashion similar to a Whelan instrument post
light, but the bulb is about 5/16" in diameter.
The bulb has a smooth, flanged base, no threads.
The bulb fits inside a 1/2" plastic "cube" that pushes into a flush mounted
socket from the front of the panel.
As I recall they were used in applications such as landing gear position
indicator lights, where you could pull the bulb from one socket and stick it in
the other to check if the gear had malfunctioned, or if the bulb was burned out.
Does anyone know who makes these and what the source might be?
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| Subject: | Re: Threadlocker on nuts |
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: John Schroeder <jschroeder@perigee.net>
Mark -
One more choice: Sport Aviation, Feb 03, p115: Nylock has a self sealing
patch to spray on the threads that will lock the bolts. Interesting
concept. Let me know if you try it.
John
O
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| Subject: | Dynon encoder question |
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Russ Werner" <russ@wernerworld.com>
A friend at the hangar is wiring up his Dynon encoder functions to a KT76
Transponder. The encoder has a "strobe" line out. The old Ameriking
encoder manual said to put this line to ground when using a KT76.
Is this the case with any encoder and should the Dynon "strobe" line also be
grounded? We're guessing so, but anyone with some knowledge here that can
point us right would be appreciated.
Russ Werner
HRII
Copy:
rv-list
aeroelectric-list
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| Subject: | Temporairily off list |
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: HCRV6@aol.com
Signing off the list for about 10 days.
Harry Crosby
Pleasanton, California
RV-6, firewall forward
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| Subject: | Re: Annunciator Panel on the cheap |
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Neville Kilford" <nkilford@etravel.org>
Mark,
I'm definitely in on this, and I've been meaning to ask you about connecting
to different input levels... but I just twigged that you can support both
those indicator feeds that are +ve and those that are -ve. Cunning.
I've got some of the LED light bars on order. I've gone for the 30 x 7mm
ones.
Here's a further question for you or Bob, or anyone else using the LR3C
alternator controller -- can I use your LED setup in place of the
B&C-supplied bulb? It looks as though the output from the LR3C could fit
right into the "+ve feed" part of your annunciator.
Cheers.
Nev
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mark Phillips" <ripsteel@edge.net>
Subject: AeroElectric-List: Annunciator Panel on the cheap
> --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Mark Phillips <ripsteel@edge.net>
>
> Howdy A-list-
>
> Several of y'all expressed an interest in the annunciator panel I
> fabricated from the LED modules from DigiKey. Bob has graciously posted
> the circuit diagram and board layout in pdf format on his server at:
>
> http://216.55.140.222/temp/Annunciator_LVWM.pdf
>
> If there is enough interest, I will try to send photos of the finished
> unit to Matts photoshare.
>
> Mark Phillips -do not archive-
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Annunciator Panel on the cheap |
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: John Schroeder <jschroeder@perigee.net>
Nev -
I'm going to pipe both of our LR3C regulator lights to the annunciator. Bob
drew up the resistor arrangement (needs 2 per LED). I have a copy and will
send it to you via separate email.
Cheers,
John
On Sat, 19 Jul 2003 20:22:10 +0100, Neville Kilford <nkilford@etravel.org>
wrote:
> --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Neville Kilford"
> <nkilford@etravel.org>
>
> Mark,
>
> I'm definitely in on this, and I've been meaning to ask you about
> connecting
> to different input levels... but I just twigged that you can support both
> those indicator feeds that are +ve and those that are -ve. Cunning.
>
> I've got some of the LED light bars on order. I've gone for the 30 x 7mm
> ones.
>
> Here's a further question for you or Bob, or anyone else using the LR3C
> alternator controller -- can I use your LED setup in place of the
> B&C-supplied bulb? It looks as though the output from the LR3C could fit
> right into the "+ve feed" part of your annunciator.
>
> Cheers.
>
> Nev
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Phillips" <ripsteel@edge.net>
> To: "AeroElectric List" <AeroElectric-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: AeroElectric-List: Annunciator Panel on the cheap
>
>
>> --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Mark Phillips
>> <ripsteel@edge.net>
>>
>> Howdy A-list-
>>
>> Several of y'all expressed an interest in the annunciator panel I
>> fabricated from the LED modules from DigiKey. Bob has graciously posted
>> the circuit diagram and board layout in pdf format on his server at:
>>
>> http://216.55.140.222/temp/Annunciator_LVWM.pdf
>>
>> If there is enough interest, I will try to send photos of the finished
>> unit to Matts photoshare.
>>
>> Mark Phillips -do not archive-
>>
>>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: BatteryTerminalBoltCorrosion |
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "DAVID REEL" <dreel@cox.net>
My goal would be higher compression pressure giving a lower resistance and more
moisture resistant connection. Also the bolts supplied with the battery have
an odd whitish cast making them appear to be a bit brittle whether they are or
not.
Dave Reel - RV8A
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| Subject: | Re: Switch Spacing |
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Richard V. Reynolds" <rvreynolds@macs.net>
Use 1.0 inches for all switches.
Richard Reynolds, Norfolk, VA RV-6A, 3rd panel, I got it right.
John Schroeder wrote:
> --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: John Schroeder <jschroeder@perigee.net>
>
> Bob -
>
> What is a suggested spacing between the Carling switches on the panel?
>
> Thanks,
>
> John
>
> --
>
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| Subject: | Re: Switch Spacing |
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Dan Checkoway" <dan@rvproject.com>
I ended up using 1.0", which is a fair bit wider than what most people seem
to use (0.8 I belive).
http://www.rvproject.com/20030615.html
That page shows what I call a "switch spacing matrix," which is just a piece
of scrap with switch holes drilled in various spacings. Just do this and
you can play with it yourself before committing to it, feel what you're
comfortable with, etc.
)_( Dan
RV-7 N714D
http://www.rvproject.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Schroeder" <jschroeder@perigee.net>
Subject: AeroElectric-List: Switch Spacing
> --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: John Schroeder
<jschroeder@perigee.net>
>
> Bob -
>
> What is a suggested spacing between the Carling switches on the panel?
>
> Thanks,
>
> John
>
> --
>
>
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--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Larry Bowen" <Larry@BowenAero.com>
I used 0.8 inches. Seems to have worked out fine.
-
Larry Bowen
Larry@BowenAero.com
http://BowenAero.com
2003 - The year of flight!
> -----Original Message-----
> From: John Schroeder [mailto:jschroeder@perigee.net]
> Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2003 1:35 PM
> To: aeroelectric-list@matronics.com
> Subject: AeroElectric-List: Switch Spacing
>
>
> --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: John Schroeder
> --> <jschroeder@perigee.net>
>
> Bob -
>
> What is a suggested spacing between the Carling switches on the panel?
>
> Thanks,
>
> John
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