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1. 08:02 AM - .pdf download problems (Robert L. Nuckolls, III)
2. 08:31 AM - Coil Suppression Can Reduce Relay Life? (richard@riley.net)
3. 08:55 AM - Re: .pdf download problems (Robinson, Chad)
4. 01:58 PM - (no subject) (TimRhod@aol.com)
5. 02:16 PM - Re: (no subject) (Ageless Wings)
6. 02:19 PM - Re: (no subject) (John Slade)
7. 02:24 PM - Re: (no subject) (ivorphillips)
8. 02:40 PM - Re: (no subject) (William Slaughter)
9. 02:53 PM - Re: (no subject) (Bruce Gray)
10. 02:53 PM - Re: (no subject) (Canyon)
11. 03:36 PM - Re: jdbgmrg (Jeffrey W. Skiba)
12. 03:43 PM - Re: (no subject) (Cy Galley)
13. 04:28 PM - Bulkhead adapter for GPS antenna firewall pass-through (Dan Checkoway)
14. 05:01 PM - Re: (no subject) (Charlie & Tupper England)
15. 05:05 PM - Re: Bulkhead adapter for GPS antenna firewall pass-through (KITFOXZ@aol.com)
16. 05:23 PM - Re: Bulkhead adapter for GPS antenna firewall pass-through (David Carter)
17. 05:59 PM - Re: (no subject) ()
18. 07:59 PM - Re: Bulkhead adapter for GPS antenna firewall pass-through (James E. Clark)
19. 09:34 PM - Re: OBAM vs. Certified thread (Jeffrey)
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Subject: | .pdf download problems |
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Robert L. Nuckolls, III" <bob.nuckolls@cox.net>
>
>Comments/Questions: Hi Bob: having trouble downloading from your site;
>from "whatsnew" I've tried for a week to get DIY Audio Mixer . . . but it
>never downloads; looks like it tries to start, but never
>finishes. Problems with site? or is it on my end? Cheers, Bob Shumaker
>(ten year follower of AEC)
The .pdf files are downloaded by your browser and then handed off
to Adobe Acrobat Reader program. With some combinations of
hardware and software, Adobe is trying to open and display the
document while downloading is still in progress. If this takes
too long (like for a large document and/or slow Internet connection),
the software hangs up.
Try right-clicking the link and telling your browser where to
store the document on your hard drive. Wait until the download
is completed and then us Acrobat to open the document. This
technique has "fixed" the vast majority of reported download
problems. Let me know if this works for you.
Bob . . .
--------------------------------------------
( Knowing about a thing is different than )
( understanding it. One can know a lot )
( and still understand nothing. )
( C.F. Kettering )
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Subject: | Coil Suppression Can Reduce Relay Life? |
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: richard@riley.net
Take a look at
http://www.pandbrelays.com/app_pdfs/13c3264.pdf
Comments?
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Subject: | .pdf download problems |
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Robinson, Chad" <crobinson@rfgonline.com>
> The .pdf files are downloaded by your browser and then handed off
> to Adobe Acrobat Reader program. With some combinations of
> hardware and software, Adobe is trying to open and display the
> document while downloading is still in progress. If this takes
> too long (like for a large document and/or slow Internet
> connection),
> the software hangs up.
>
> Try right-clicking the link and telling your browser where to
> store the document on your hard drive. Wait until the download
> is completed and then us Acrobat to open the document. This
> technique has "fixed" the vast majority of reported download
> problems. Let me know if this works for you.
For those of you experiencing this issue, you can also completely disable this
"feature." (I recommmend it anyway, as it can be annoying even for those for whom
it "works.") Start Acrobat Reader, and click Edit->Preferences. Under the
"Internet" section, turn off "Allow Fast Web View" and "Allow Speculative Downloading
in Background." Older versions may not have both these options, or they
may not have the same names.
If you then click a PDF link, the file will be downloaded entirely before Acrobat
starts. It will still not be saved locally though, and the method Bob describes
above is the best answer to PDF browser integration problems. Nonetheless,
it's worth doing for those cases where you don't have a link to right-click.
Regards,
Chad
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ContactUs@performanceaeroengines.com, gary@aerotronics.com,
Gene@onemileup.com, 71663.675@compuserve.com,
GILDERMASTERMARSHALL@Prodigy.net, rgutowski@woh.rr.com, BK@newattaero.com,
info@bluemountainavionics.com, info@dynondevelopment.com,
info@lancairavionics.com, info@leadingedge-airfoils.com, jennie@jdovich.com,
JRun412@aol.com, KristaLynNorris@aol.com, MarkD.Brown@uscm.org,
JNesteroff@aol.com, pettittr@talawanda.org, Reflector@tvbf.org,
MM963@quicknet.net, Davidr@one.net, Jrhodenbaugh@kutol.com, K551@aol.com,
Wease61@hotmail.com, sales@approach-systems.com, sales@bandcspecialty.com,
scottb@velocityaircraft.com, smith@fadec.com, Sportsgirl632@aol.com,
support@bluemountainavionics.com, TimRhod@aol.com
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: TimRhod@aol.com
Subject: VERY,VERY,VERY IMPORTANT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I DID FIND THIS AND DELETED IT OFF MY COMPUTER.
Subject: IMPORTANT!!!!!! YOU MIGHT HAVE A VIRUS
a virus has been passed on to me by a contact, whose address book was
infected. This virus does not come in as an e-mail. Since you are in my
book, there is a good chance you have been infected too. The virus,
which was hiding in my c:/Windows/system 32 directory, is called
jdbgmgr.exe and is not detected by Norton or McAfee Anti-virus system.
The virus sits quietly for 14 days before damaging the system. It is
automatically transmitted by the address book, whether or not you sent
emails to your contacts! Here is how to check for the virus, and how to
get rid of it:
1. Go to Start, click on Find or Search option
2. In the file folder option, type the name jdbgmgr.exe
3. Be sure you search your C: drive and all subfolders and all other
drives you may have
4. Click "find now"
5. The virus has a Teddy Bear icon with name jdbgmgr.exe -- DO NOT OPEN
IT!!!
6. Go to "Edit" on the Menu Bar and "select all" to highlight the file
without opening it.
7. Now go to "File" on the Menu Bar and select "Delete". It will then go
to the recycle bin -- open the recycle bin and then delete it without
opening it.
8. If you find the virus, you must contact all the people in your
address book so they can eradicate it in their own address books.
To do this:
a. Open a new email message
b. Click on the icon of the address book next to the "to"
c. Highlight every name and add to "BCC"
d. Copy this message and paste into email.
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--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Ageless Wings" <harley@agelesswings.com>
THIS IS A HOAX!! DON'T DELETE THIS FILE!!!
Just in case you haven't heard this old one yet, this file, jdbgmgr.exe, is
NOT A VIRUS OR WORM OR ANYTHING ELSE THAT IS DANGEROUS. This email is a
hoax, that is trying to get you to delete one of Windows legitimate files.
You can read all about it here at Symantec:
http://www.symantec.com/avcenter/venc/data/jdbgmgr.exe.file.hoax.html
Harley
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com
>> [mailto:owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of
>> TimRhod@aol.com
>> Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2003 4:57 PM
>> To: aeroelectric-list@matronics.com; avionics@garmin.com;
>> Bobnuckolls@cox.net; ContactUs@performanceaeroengines.com;
>> gary@aerotronics.com; Gene@onemileup.com; 71663.675@compuserve.com;
>> GILDERMASTERMARSHALL@Prodigy.net; rgutowski@woh.rr.com;
>> BK@newattaero.com; info@bluemountainavionics.com;
>> info@dynondevelopment.com; info@lancairavionics.com;
>> info@leadingedge-airfoils.com; jennie@jdovich.com; JRun412@aol.com;
>> KristaLynNorris@aol.com; MarkD.Brown@uscm.org; JNesteroff@aol.com;
>> pettittr@talawanda.org; Reflector@tvbf.org; MM963@quicknet.net;
>> Davidr@one.net; Jrhodenbaugh@kutol.com; K551@aol.com;
>> Wease61@hotmail.com; sales@approach-systems.com;
>> sales@bandcspecialty.com; scottb@velocityaircraft.com; smith@fadec.com;
>> Sportsgirl632@aol.com; support@bluemountainavionics.com; TimRhod@aol.com
>> Subject: AeroElectric-List: (no subject)
>>
>>
>> --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: TimRhod@aol.com
>>
>> Subject: VERY,VERY,VERY IMPORTANT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>
>>
>> I DID FIND THIS AND DELETED IT OFF MY COMPUTER.
>>
>> Subject: IMPORTANT!!!!!! YOU MIGHT HAVE A VIRUS
>>
>> a virus has been passed on to me by a contact, whose address book was
>> infected. This virus does not come in as an e-mail. Since you are in my
>> book, there is a good chance you have been infected too. The virus,
>> which was hiding in my c:/Windows/system 32 directory, is called
>> jdbgmgr.exe and is not detected by Norton or McAfee Anti-virus system.
>> The virus sits quietly for 14 days before damaging the system. It is
>> automatically transmitted by the address book, whether or not you sent
>> emails to your contacts! Here is how to check for the virus, and how to
>> get rid of it:
>> 1. Go to Start, click on Find or Search option
>> 2. In the file folder option, type the name jdbgmgr.exe
>> 3. Be sure you search your C: drive and all subfolders and all other
>> drives you may have
>> 4. Click "find now"
>> 5. The virus has a Teddy Bear icon with name jdbgmgr.exe -- DO NOT OPEN
>> IT!!!
>> 6. Go to "Edit" on the Menu Bar and "select all" to highlight the file
>> without opening it.
>> 7. Now go to "File" on the Menu Bar and select "Delete". It will then go
>> to the recycle bin -- open the recycle bin and then delete it without
>> opening it.
>> 8. If you find the virus, you must contact all the people in your
>> address book so they can eradicate it in their own address books.
>> To do this:
>> a. Open a new email message
>> b. Click on the icon of the address book next to the "to"
>> c. Highlight every name and add to "BCC"
>> d. Copy this message and paste into email.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "John Slade" <sladerj@bellsouth.net>
Someone said:
> 8. If you find the virus, you must contact all the people in your
> address book so they can eradicate it in their own address books.
> To do this:
> a. Open a new email message
> b. Click on the icon of the address book next to the "to"
> c. Highlight every name and add to "BCC"
> d. Copy this message and paste into email.
No! No! No!
You are advocating thousands and thousands of emails about how to get rid of
a virus, which are almost as annoying as the viruses themselves. It's the
responsibility of each computer user to get the protection and use it. Let's
not fill the bandwidth with chain emails about how to deal with this stuff.
John Slade
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Subject: | Re: (no subject) |
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "ivorphillips" <ivor@ivorphillips.flyer.co.uk>
This a hoax and should be ignored
----- Original Message -----
From: <TimRhod@aol.com>
<Bobnuckolls@cox.net>; <ContactUs@performanceaeroengines.com>;
<gary@aerotronics.com>; <Gene@onemileup.com>; <71663.675@compuserve.com>;
<GILDERMASTERMARSHALL@Prodigy.net>; <rgutowski@woh.rr.com>;
<BK@newattaero.com>; <info@bluemountainavionics.com>;
<info@dynondevelopment.com>; <info@lancairavionics.com>;
<info@leadingedge-airfoils.com>; <jennie@jdovich.com>; <JRun412@aol.com>;
<KristaLynNorris@aol.com>; <MarkD.Brown@uscm.org>; <JNesteroff@aol.com>;
<pettittr@talawanda.org>; <Reflector@tvbf.org>; <MM963@quicknet.net>;
<Davidr@one.net>; <Jrhodenbaugh@kutol.com>; <K551@aol.com>;
<Wease61@hotmail.com>; <sales@approach-systems.com>;
<sales@bandcspecialty.com>; <scottb@velocityaircraft.com>;
<smith@fadec.com>; <Sportsgirl632@aol.com>;
<support@bluemountainavionics.com>; <TimRhod@aol.com>
Subject: AeroElectric-List: (no subject)
> --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: TimRhod@aol.com
>
> Subject: VERY,VERY,VERY IMPORTANT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
>
> I DID FIND THIS AND DELETED IT OFF MY COMPUTER.
>
> Subject: IMPORTANT!!!!!! YOU MIGHT HAVE A VIRUS
>
> a virus has been passed on to me by a contact, whose address book was
> infected. This virus does not come in as an e-mail. Since you are in my
> book, there is a good chance you have been infected too. The virus,
> which was hiding in my c:/Windows/system 32 directory, is called
> jdbgmgr.exe and is not detected by Norton or McAfee Anti-virus system.
> The virus sits quietly for 14 days before damaging the system. It is
> automatically transmitted by the address book, whether or not you sent
> emails to your contacts! Here is how to check for the virus, and how to
> get rid of it:
> 1. Go to Start, click on Find or Search option
> 2. In the file folder option, type the name jdbgmgr.exe
> 3. Be sure you search your C: drive and all subfolders and all other
> drives you may have
> 4. Click "find now"
> 5. The virus has a Teddy Bear icon with name jdbgmgr.exe -- DO NOT OPEN
> IT!!!
> 6. Go to "Edit" on the Menu Bar and "select all" to highlight the file
> without opening it.
> 7. Now go to "File" on the Menu Bar and select "Delete". It will then go
> to the recycle bin -- open the recycle bin and then delete it without
> opening it.
> 8. If you find the virus, you must contact all the people in your
> address book so they can eradicate it in their own address books.
> To do this:
> a. Open a new email message
> b. Click on the icon of the address book next to the "to"
> c. Highlight every name and add to "BCC"
> d. Copy this message and paste into email.
>
>
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--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "William Slaughter" <willslau@alumni.rice.edu>
This is a hoax that comes around periodically. jdbgmgr.exe is a real
file and part of the Windows operating system. Do not delete it, and
don't email everybody about it.
William
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
TimRhod@aol.com
Bobnuckolls@cox.net; ContactUs@performanceaeroengines.com;
gary@aerotronics.com; Gene@onemileup.com; 71663.675@compuserve.com;
GILDERMASTERMARSHALL@Prodigy.net; rgutowski@woh.rr.com;
BK@newattaero.com; info@bluemountainavionics.com;
info@dynondevelopment.com; info@lancairavionics.com;
info@leadingedge-airfoils.com; jennie@jdovich.com; JRun412@aol.com;
KristaLynNorris@aol.com; MarkD.Brown@uscm.org; JNesteroff@aol.com;
pettittr@talawanda.org; Reflector@tvbf.org; MM963@quicknet.net;
Davidr@one.net; Jrhodenbaugh@kutol.com; K551@aol.com;
Wease61@hotmail.com; sales@approach-systems.com;
sales@bandcspecialty.com; scottb@velocityaircraft.com; smith@fadec.com;
Sportsgirl632@aol.com; support@bluemountainavionics.com; TimRhod@aol.com
Subject: AeroElectric-List: (no subject)
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: TimRhod@aol.com
Subject: VERY,VERY,VERY IMPORTANT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I DID FIND THIS AND DELETED IT OFF MY COMPUTER.
Subject: IMPORTANT!!!!!! YOU MIGHT HAVE A VIRUS
a virus has been passed on to me by a contact, whose address book was
infected. This virus does not come in as an e-mail. Since you are in my
book, there is a good chance you have been infected too. The virus,
which was hiding in my c:/Windows/system 32 directory, is called
jdbgmgr.exe and is not detected by Norton or McAfee Anti-virus system.
The virus sits quietly for 14 days before damaging the system. It is
automatically transmitted by the address book, whether or not you sent
emails to your contacts! Here is how to check for the virus, and how to
get rid of it: 1. Go to Start, click on Find or Search option 2. In the
file folder option, type the name jdbgmgr.exe 3. Be sure you search your
C: drive and all subfolders and all other drives you may have 4. Click
"find now" 5. The virus has a Teddy Bear icon with name jdbgmgr.exe --
DO NOT OPEN IT!!! 6. Go to "Edit" on the Menu Bar and "select all" to
highlight the file without opening it. 7. Now go to "File" on the Menu
Bar and select "Delete". It will then go to the recycle bin -- open the
recycle bin and then delete it without opening it. 8. If you find the
virus, you must contact all the people in your address book so they can
eradicate it in their own address books. To do this: a. Open a new email
message b. Click on the icon of the address book next to the "to" c.
Highlight every name and add to "BCC" d. Copy this message and paste
into email.
direct advertising on the Matronics Forums.
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--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Bruce Gray" <Bruce@glasair.org>
This is a valid file. Please see,
http://www.symantec.com/avcenter/venc/data/jdbgmgr.exe.file.hoax.html
For details.
Bruce
www.glasair.org
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
TimRhod@aol.com
Bobnuckolls@cox.net; ContactUs@performanceaeroengines.com;
gary@aerotronics.com; Gene@onemileup.com; 71663.675@compuserve.com;
GILDERMASTERMARSHALL@Prodigy.net; rgutowski@woh.rr.com;
BK@newattaero.com; info@bluemountainavionics.com;
info@dynondevelopment.com; info@lancairavionics.com;
info@leadingedge-airfoils.com; jennie@jdovich.com; JRun412@aol.com;
KristaLynNorris@aol.com; MarkD.Brown@uscm.org; JNesteroff@aol.com;
pettittr@talawanda.org; Reflector@tvbf.org; MM963@quicknet.net;
Davidr@one.net; Jrhodenbaugh@kutol.com; K551@aol.com;
Wease61@hotmail.com; sales@approach-systems.com;
sales@bandcspecialty.com; scottb@velocityaircraft.com; smith@fadec.com;
Sportsgirl632@aol.com; support@bluemountainavionics.com; TimRhod@aol.com
Subject: AeroElectric-List: (no subject)
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: TimRhod@aol.com
Subject: VERY,VERY,VERY IMPORTANT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I DID FIND THIS AND DELETED IT OFF MY COMPUTER.
Subject: IMPORTANT!!!!!! YOU MIGHT HAVE A VIRUS
a virus has been passed on to me by a contact, whose address book was
infected. This virus does not come in as an e-mail. Since you are in my
book, there is a good chance you have been infected too. The virus,
which was hiding in my c:/Windows/system 32 directory, is called
jdbgmgr.exe and is not detected by Norton or McAfee Anti-virus system.
The virus sits quietly for 14 days before damaging the system. It is
automatically transmitted by the address book, whether or not you sent
emails to your contacts! Here is how to check for the virus, and how to
get rid of it:
1. Go to Start, click on Find or Search option
2. In the file folder option, type the name jdbgmgr.exe
3. Be sure you search your C: drive and all subfolders and all other
drives you may have
4. Click "find now"
5. The virus has a Teddy Bear icon with name jdbgmgr.exe -- DO NOT OPEN
IT!!!
6. Go to "Edit" on the Menu Bar and "select all" to highlight the file
without opening it.
7. Now go to "File" on the Menu Bar and select "Delete". It will then go
to the recycle bin -- open the recycle bin and then delete it without
opening it.
8. If you find the virus, you must contact all the people in your
address book so they can eradicate it in their own address books.
To do this:
a. Open a new email message
b. Click on the icon of the address book next to the "to"
c. Highlight every name and add to "BCC"
d. Copy this message and paste into email.
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--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Canyon <steve.canyon@verizon.net>
TimRhod@aol.com wrote:
>Subject: VERY,VERY,VERY IMPORTANT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
>
>I DID FIND THIS AND DELETED IT OFF MY COMPUTER.
>
>Subject: IMPORTANT!!!!!! YOU MIGHT HAVE A VIRUS
---
Sorry -- not a chance! It is simply a hoax and you've been conned into
deleting a standard part of the Windows OS. Check out www.snopes.com
first next time and save yourself (and all those you just mailed) the
trouble of figuring it out. All you've managed to do is perpetuate the
hoax. But -- everyone has to learn somewhere... :-)
Steve
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--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Jeffrey W. Skiba" <jskiba@icosa.net>
This is a bunch of bull *&*&&**
Take a look at the microsoft.com website for yours self !!! At
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;322993
here is the title of the tech article
Virus Hoax: Microsoft Debugger Registrar for Java (Jdbgmgr.exe) Is Not a
Virus
FYI
Jeff
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: TimRhod@aol.com
Subject: VERY,VERY,VERY IMPORTANT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I DID FIND THIS AND DELETED IT OFF MY COMPUTER.
Subject: IMPORTANT!!!!!! YOU MIGHT HAVE A VIRUS
a virus has been passed on to me by a contact, whose address book was
infected. This virus does not come in as an e-mail. Since you are in my
book, there is a good chance you have been infected too. The virus, which
was hiding in my c:/Windows/system 32 directory, is called jdbgmgr.exe and
is not detected by Norton or McAfee Anti-virus system. The virus sits
quietly for 14 days before damaging the system. It is automatically
transmitted by the address book, whether or not you sent emails to your
contacts! Here is how to check for the virus, and how to get rid of it: 1.
Go to Start, click on Find or Search option 2. In the file folder option,
type the name jdbgmgr.exe 3. Be sure you search your C: drive and all
subfolders and all other drives you may have 4. Click "find now" 5. The
virus has a Teddy Bear icon with name jdbgmgr.exe -- DO NOT OPEN IT!!! 6. Go
to "Edit" on the Menu Bar and "select all" to highlight the file without
opening it. 7. Now go to "File" on the Menu Bar and select "Delete". It will
then go to the recycle bin -- open the recycle bin and then delete it
without opening it. 8. If you find the virus, you must contact all the
people in your address book so they can eradicate it in their own address
books. To do this: a. Open a new email message b. Click on the icon of the
address book next to the "to" c. Highlight every name and add to "BCC" d.
Copy this message and paste into email.
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<gary@aerotronics.com>, <Gene@onemileup.com>, <71663.675@compuserve.com>,
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<BK@newattaero.com>, <info@bluemountainavionics.com>,
<info@dynondevelopment.com>, <info@lancairavionics.com>,
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<KristaLynNorris@aol.com>, <MarkD.Brown@uscm.org>, <JNesteroff@aol.com>,
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--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Cy Galley" <cgalley@qcbc.org>
THIS IS A HOAX! see http://www.snopes.com/computer/virus/jdbgmgr.htm -----
Original Message -----
From: <TimRhod@aol.com>
<Bobnuckolls@cox.net>; <ContactUs@performanceaeroengines.com>;
<gary@aerotronics.com>; <Gene@onemileup.com>; <71663.675@compuserve.com>;
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<Davidr@one.net>; <Jrhodenbaugh@kutol.com>; <K551@aol.com>;
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Subject: AeroElectric-List: (no subject)
> --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: TimRhod@aol.com
>
> Subject: VERY,VERY,VERY IMPORTANT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
>
> I DID FIND THIS AND DELETED IT OFF MY COMPUTER.
>
> Subject: IMPORTANT!!!!!! YOU MIGHT HAVE A VIRUS
>
> a virus has been passed on to me by a contact, whose address book was
> infected. This virus does not come in as an e-mail. Since you are in my
> book, there is a good chance you have been infected too. The virus,
> which was hiding in my c:/Windows/system 32 directory, is called
> jdbgmgr.exe and is not detected by Norton or McAfee Anti-virus system.
> The virus sits quietly for 14 days before damaging the system. It is
> automatically transmitted by the address book, whether or not you sent
> emails to your contacts! Here is how to check for the virus, and how to
> get rid of it:
> 1. Go to Start, click on Find or Search option
> 2. In the file folder option, type the name jdbgmgr.exe
> 3. Be sure you search your C: drive and all subfolders and all other
> drives you may have
> 4. Click "find now"
> 5. The virus has a Teddy Bear icon with name jdbgmgr.exe -- DO NOT OPEN
> IT!!!
> 6. Go to "Edit" on the Menu Bar and "select all" to highlight the file
> without opening it.
> 7. Now go to "File" on the Menu Bar and select "Delete". It will then go
> to the recycle bin -- open the recycle bin and then delete it without
> opening it.
> 8. If you find the virus, you must contact all the people in your
> address book so they can eradicate it in their own address books.
> To do this:
> a. Open a new email message
> b. Click on the icon of the address book next to the "to"
> c. Highlight every name and add to "BCC"
> d. Copy this message and paste into email.
>
>
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Subject: | Bulkhead adapter for GPS antenna firewall pass-through |
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Dan Checkoway" <dan@rvproject.com>
Bob, et al,
I'm wiring my GPS antenna, for which I've built a little shelf on the
firewall of my RV-7. As you can see in this photo...
http://rvproject.com/images/2003/20030830_bulkhead_location.jpg
...the antenna wire will pass through the firewall roughly where the X is
marked. I could run one continuous wire of RG-400 all the way to the
antenna, but what I would *much prefer* to do is use a bulkhead connector
like this one:
http://rvproject.com/images/2003/20030830_bulkhead_connector.jpg
The reason I prefer that is because then I have the option of removing the
antenna from the firewall at some point, and I won't have this dangling coax
out there. I would have a short jumper from the firewall to the antenna.
My questions are:
1) If I use such a connector through the firewall, does the fact that the
connector body is in direct contact with the firewall (ground) play any part
in the equation? I presume not, but I wanted to ask.
2) Other than the obvious potential issue of introducing more possible
failure spots (two more connections) into the system, is there any
possibility of signal degradation by using the connector as opposed to a
continuous coax wire?
Please set me straight if this bulkhead adapter is a bad idea. Thanks!
)_( Dan
RV-7 N714D
http://www.rvproject.com
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Subject: | Re: (no subject) |
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Charlie & Tupper England <cengland@netdoor.com>
TimRhod@aol.com wrote:
>--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: TimRhod@aol.com
>
>Subject: VERY,VERY,VERY IMPORTANT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
>
>I DID FIND THIS AND DELETED IT OFF MY COMPUTER.
>
>Subject: IMPORTANT!!!!!! YOU MIGHT HAVE A VIRUS
>
>a virus has been passed on to me by a contact, whose address book was
>infected. This virus does not come in as an e-mail. Since you are in my
>book, there is a good chance you have been infected too. The virus,
>which was hiding in my c:/Windows/system 32 directory, is called
>jdbgmgr.exe and is not detected by Norton or McAfee Anti-virus system.
>The virus sits quietly for 14 days before damaging the system. It is
>automatically transmitted by the address book, whether or not you sent
>emails to your contacts! Here is how to check for the virus, and how to
>get rid of it:
>1. Go to Start, click on Find or Search option
>2. In the file folder option, type the name jdbgmgr.exe
>3. Be sure you search your C: drive and all subfolders and all other
>drives you may have
>4. Click "find now"
>5. The virus has a Teddy Bear icon with name jdbgmgr.exe -- DO NOT OPEN
>IT!!!
>6. Go to "Edit" on the Menu Bar and "select all" to highlight the file
>without opening it.
>7. Now go to "File" on the Menu Bar and select "Delete". It will then go
>to the recycle bin -- open the recycle bin and then delete it without
>opening it.
>8. If you find the virus, you must contact all the people in your
>address book so they can eradicate it in their own address books.
>To do this:
>a. Open a new email message
>b. Click on the icon of the address book next to the "to"
>c. Highlight every name and add to "BCC"
>d. Copy this message and paste into email.
>
See:
http://hoaxbusters.ciac.org/cgi-bin/mfs/www/hoaxbusters/archive?link=http://hoaxbusters.ciac.org/HBMalCode.shtml&file=/www/hoaxbusters/HBMalCode.shtml&line=1616#mfs
or go to Google & type "virus hoax" then pick a site & search for
'jdbgmgr.exe'
or,
The Jdbgmgr Hoax/Worm
April 2002/June 2003
There are now two jdbmgr messagess; a hoax and a real worm. Some
miscreant has decided to make a hoax real so you need to be careful what
you do. The jdbgmgr.exe program is a real part of the Windows operating
system. It should normally not be removed though doing so will not
inconvenience most people. The miscreant has created a computer worm
called Recory that overwrites the jdbgmgr.exe program with the worm
code. In either case, do not run the jdbgmgr.exe program if it is sent
to you in an e-mail. In most cases, you do not need to run the real
jdbgmgr.exe program.
The easiest way to recognize the difference between the hoax and the
real version of jdbgmgr.exe is to look at the icon. The program with the
bear icon is the good one and the one with the tools icon is the bad one.
The real jdbgmgr program. The recory worm.
Jump to the hoax
<http://hoaxbusters.ciac.org/HBMalCode.shtml#jdbgmgrhoax> or the worm
<http://hoaxbusters.ciac.org/HBMalCode.shtml#jdbgmgrworm>.
The Jdbgmgr Hoax
The jdbgmgr hoax is almost the same as the sulfnbk hoax
<http://hoaxbusters.ciac.org/HBMalCode.shtml#sulfnbk> in that it tells
you to delete a program that was installed with Windows. jdbmgr.exe is
the Java Debugger Manager and does have an icon that looks like a Teddy
Bear. It is not, normally, a virus. As with all executables, it is not
impossible to have a copy of jdbmgr.exe that is infected by a virus but
that virus will be detected by your antivirus software.
Microsoft has posted the article Q322993
<http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;Q322993> with
information on how to replace jdbgmgr.exe if you have deleted it.
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Subject: | Re: Bulkhead adapter for GPS antenna firewall pass-through |
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: KITFOXZ@aol.com
In a message dated 8/30/2003 7:29:01 PM Eastern Standard Time,
dan@rvproject.com writes:
My questions are:
1) If I use such a connector through the firewall, does the fact that the
connector body is in direct contact with the firewall (ground) play any part
in the equation? I presume not, but I wanted to ask.
2) Other than the obvious potential issue of introducing more possible
failure spots (two more connections) into the system, is there any
possibility of signal degradation by using the connector as opposed to a
continuous coax wire?
Please set me straight if this bulkhead adapter is a bad idea. Thanks!
)_( Dan
RV-7 N714D
http://www.rvproject.com
Hello Dan,
I am sure Bob will have some impressive quantitative performance numbers for
you on this one. The long and the short answer to your question is that your
GPS receiver will experience a decrease in sensitivity due to the antenna
system's decreased performance.(by antenna system, is meant, antenna, transmission
line (coax) and all connections) Coaxial cable is a poor transmission line
in the first place that adds tons of loss to the received signal. Adding a
firewall bulkhead connector will degrade it further. I don't have the experience
to give you numbers with a GPS signal, but adding another connector could
make the difference of cutting the number of satellites that you can reliably
receive at any one time in half.
John P. Marzluf
Columbus, Ohio
Kitfox Outback (out back in the garage)
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Subject: | Re: Bulkhead adapter for GPS antenna firewall pass-through |
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "David Carter" <dcarter@datarecall.net>
Dan, were you on this list last Spring when Bob gave us a link to his
website article on using the end of a stainless steel towel bar/handicapped
grab bar over a hole in firewall through which all wires, etc can pass from
the engine compartment to the cockpit, and be very fire-safe by packing and
wrapping the wires with firesleeve material and using two stainless steel
clamps to secure the wire bundle so no flames are going to go through the
firewall "blow torch" like? Your GPS coax could come through with other
wires, if you are talking of putting the GPS antenna ona shelf in the engine
compartment under a fiberglas cowl.
David Carter
----- Original Message -----
From: <KITFOXZ@aol.com>
Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: Bulkhead adapter for GPS antenna firewall
pass-through
> --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: KITFOXZ@aol.com
>
> In a message dated 8/30/2003 7:29:01 PM Eastern Standard Time,
> dan@rvproject.com writes:
> My questions are:
>
> 1) If I use such a connector through the firewall, does the fact that the
> connector body is in direct contact with the firewall (ground) play any
part
> in the equation? I presume not, but I wanted to ask.
>
> 2) Other than the obvious potential issue of introducing more possible
> failure spots (two more connections) into the system, is there any
> possibility of signal degradation by using the connector as opposed to a
> continuous coax wire?
>
> Please set me straight if this bulkhead adapter is a bad idea. Thanks!
>
> )_( Dan
> RV-7 N714D
> http://www.rvproject.com
>
>
> Hello Dan,
>
> I am sure Bob will have some impressive quantitative performance numbers
for
> you on this one. The long and the short answer to your question is that
your
> GPS receiver will experience a decrease in sensitivity due to the antenna
> system's decreased performance.(by antenna system, is meant, antenna,
transmission
> line (coax) and all connections) Coaxial cable is a poor transmission
line
> in the first place that adds tons of loss to the received signal. Adding
a
> firewall bulkhead connector will degrade it further. I don't have the
experience
> to give you numbers with a GPS signal, but adding another connector could
> make the difference of cutting the number of satellites that you can
reliably
> receive at any one time in half.
>
> John P. Marzluf
> Columbus, Ohio
> Kitfox Outback (out back in the garage)
>
>
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<ContactUs@performanceaeroengines.com>, <gary@aerotronics.com>,
<Gene@onemileup.com>, <71663.675@compuserve.com>,
<GILDERMASTERMARSHALL@Prodigy.net>, <rgutowski@woh.rr.com>,
<BK@newattaero.com>, <info@bluemountainavionics.com>,
<info@dynondevelopment.com>, <info@lancairavionics.com>,
<info@leadingedge-airfoils.com>, <jennie@jdovich.com>, <JRun412@aol.com>,
<KristaLynNorris@aol.com>, <MarkD.Brown@uscm.org>, <JNesteroff@aol.com>,
<pettittr@talawanda.org>, <Reflector@tvbf.org>, <MM963@quicknet.net>,
<Davidr@one.net>, <Jrhodenbaugh@kutol.com>, <K551@aol.com>,
<Wease61@hotmail.com>, <sales@approach-systems.com>,
<sales@bandcspecialty.com>, <scottb@velocityaircraft.com>,
<smith@fadec.com>, <Sportsgirl632@aol.com>,
<support@bluemountainavionics.com>, <TimRhod@aol.com>
Subject: | Re: (no subject) |
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: <chaskuss@bellsouth.net>
Folks,
Please ignore the previous post. The alleged "virus" is actually a legitimate
part of Windows. The previous post is an attempt to trick you into damaging your
Windows operating system.
Charlie Kuss
>
> From: TimRhod@aol.com
> Date: 2003/08/30 Sat PM 04:57:02 EDT
> To: aeroelectric-list@matronics.com, avionics@garmin.com, Bobnuckolls@cox.net,
> ContactUs@performanceaeroengines.com, gary@aerotronics.com,
> Gene@onemileup.com, 71663.675@compuserve.com,
> GILDERMASTERMARSHALL@Prodigy.net, rgutowski@woh.rr.com, BK@newattaero.com,
> info@bluemountainavionics.com, info@dynondevelopment.com,
> info@lancairavionics.com, info@leadingedge-airfoils.com, jennie@jdovich.com,
> JRun412@aol.com, KristaLynNorris@aol.com, MarkD.Brown@uscm.org,
> JNesteroff@aol.com, pettittr@talawanda.org, Reflector@tvbf.org,
> MM963@quicknet.net, Davidr@one.net, Jrhodenbaugh@kutol.com, K551@aol.com,
> Wease61@hotmail.com, sales@approach-systems.com, sales@bandcspecialty.com,
> scottb@velocityaircraft.com, smith@fadec.com, Sportsgirl632@aol.com,
> support@bluemountainavionics.com, TimRhod@aol.com
> Subject: AeroElectric-List: (no subject)
>
>
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Subject: | Bulkhead adapter for GPS antenna firewall pass-through |
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "James E. Clark" <james@nextupventures.com>
We have our GPS antenna under the cowl as you describe.
I **THINK** I used a bulkhead connector. Don't think I would have tried to
run one cable for the reasons you mention.
Our system (KMD 150) works just fine.
Now, here is what I did to feel OK about doing this.
1. Connected GPS to antenna that was on its "shelf/perch"
2. Went to part of GPS "pages" that shows GPS "signal strength"
3. Compared numbers under different scenarios (cowl off/cowl on etc. ...I
know you are concerned about connectors)
4. On **ALL** scenarios of interest the signal level never varied from "99"
on a given set of satellites with the airplane in a given position.
5. Bolted it all down and flew the plane with no problems do date (~200
hours).
So ... I suggest that instead of the various theories, you simply connect a
cable from the antenna to a bulhead connector and then another cable to the
GPS from the bulkhead connect and see what "signal strength" YOUR GPS gets
on YOUR airplane under YOUR cowl.
But just inc ase you really DO want theories :-) ... My theory ... It will
work just fine. Remember to put the GPS as high up without touching the cowl
as possible. And remember to use good cable with good connectors/crimps.
James
Your mileage may vary ...
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of
> KITFOXZ@aol.com
> Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2003 8:05 PM
> To: aeroelectric-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: Bulkhead adapter for GPS antenna
> firewall pass-through
>
>
> --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: KITFOXZ@aol.com
>
> In a message dated 8/30/2003 7:29:01 PM Eastern Standard Time,
> dan@rvproject.com writes:
> My questions are:
>
> 1) If I use such a connector through the firewall, does the fact that the
> connector body is in direct contact with the firewall (ground)
> play any part
> in the equation? I presume not, but I wanted to ask.
>
> 2) Other than the obvious potential issue of introducing more possible
> failure spots (two more connections) into the system, is there any
> possibility of signal degradation by using the connector as opposed to a
> continuous coax wire?
>
> Please set me straight if this bulkhead adapter is a bad idea. Thanks!
>
> )_( Dan
> RV-7 N714D
> http://www.rvproject.com
>
>
> Hello Dan,
>
> I am sure Bob will have some impressive quantitative performance
> numbers for
> you on this one. The long and the short answer to your question
> is that your
> GPS receiver will experience a decrease in sensitivity due to the antenna
> system's decreased performance.(by antenna system, is meant,
> antenna, transmission
> line (coax) and all connections) Coaxial cable is a poor
> transmission line
> in the first place that adds tons of loss to the received signal.
> Adding a
> firewall bulkhead connector will degrade it further. I don't
> have the experience
> to give you numbers with a GPS signal, but adding another connector could
> make the difference of cutting the number of satellites that you
> can reliably
> receive at any one time in half.
>
> John P. Marzluf
> Columbus, Ohio
> Kitfox Outback (out back in the garage)
>
>
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Subject: | Re: OBAM vs. Certified thread |
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Jeffrey" <dump@relaypoint.net>
For 43 years at a 4% average inflation rate over that period I get $2.16
cents. What inflation rate did you use over that period, I gather it was
4.22%??? Where did you get that figure? Was it on a public website? If it
was I'd love to see it.
jeff
----- Original Message -----
From: <Aucountry@aol.com>
Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: OBAM vs. Certified thread
> --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Aucountry@aol.com
>
>
> In a message dated 08/28/03 10:07:34 PM, bob.nuckolls@cox.net writes:
>
>
> > He's got that right.=A0 Check out the inflation
> > calculators on the 'net.=A0 One that I use suggests
> > that gasoline I used to pay $0.40/gallon for in 1960
> > is CHEAPER today than it was back then. Had $0.40
> > gas grown at the rate of inflation, it would cost
> > $2.37/gallon today.
> >
>
> Gas here in California is $2.15 for cheap stations and up to $2.95 for
full
> serve.
>
>
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