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Fri 09/12/03


Total Messages Posted: 15



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     1. 04:18 AM - squelch adjustment om KX 99 handheld radio (Herbert Schmaderer)
     2. 05:39 AM - Battery drain (Fergus Kyle)
     3. 06:19 AM - Re: Re: Ground Strap Location? (Robert L. Nuckolls, III)
     4. 06:23 AM - Re: DC power panel minutia (Robert L. Nuckolls, III)
     5. 07:23 AM - KI 208 (Bobdeva@aol.com)
     6. 07:29 AM - Re: Little recognition lights (Brian & Debi Shannon)
     7. 11:22 AM - Re: Thanks for the explanation (N823ms@aol.com)
     8. 12:03 PM - Re: Thanks for the explanation (Robert L. Nuckolls, III)
     9. 12:16 PM - Re: KI 208 (Robert L. Nuckolls, III)
    10. 12:59 PM - Question! (Bell, Bruce B.)
    11. 02:32 PM - Landing & Taxi lights (David.vonLinsowe)
    12. 03:35 PM - Re: Landing & Taxi lights (William Slaughter)
    13. 04:12 PM - Re: OV Module question for Bob (Gilles.Thesee)
    14. 08:47 PM - Re: OV Module question for Bob (Robert L. Nuckolls, III)
    15. 08:51 PM - Re: Question! (Robert L. Nuckolls, III)
 
 
 


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    Time: 04:18:04 AM PST US
    From: "Herbert Schmaderer" <herbert.schmaderer@aon.at>
    Subject: squelch adjustment om KX 99 handheld radio
    --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Herbert Schmaderer" <herbert.schmaderer@aon.at> Good afternoon fellows! I own a KX 99 handheld for many years and it=B4s good quality. Since over one year I can=B4t use the squelch feature any more. Once i do adjust the squelch so that no noise is coming through also the incoming voice gets surpressed. I tryed various ways to get a maintenance manual but was not sucessful so far. Any comments are appreciated. best regards Herbert


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    Time: 05:39:18 AM PST US
    From: "Fergus Kyle" <VE3LVO@rac.ca>
    Subject: Battery drain
    --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Fergus Kyle" <VE3LVO@rac.ca> Phil is right (and the only other correspondent to mention current threats): "Oh don't hit the starter button with the ammeter in there unless you like watching smoke rapidly escape from electrical test equipment. :-)" The problem is finding the culprit before arranging for that size of current. Otherwise, on finding the fault - ammeter go poopoo. Select a large current to test, then (on suspicion) range downward to measure the fault accurately. Ferg Europa A064


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    Time: 06:19:08 AM PST US
    From: "Robert L. Nuckolls, III" <bob.nuckolls@cox.net>
    Subject: Re: Ground Strap Location?
    --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Robert L. Nuckolls, III" <bob.nuckolls@cox.net> At 07:08 AM 9/12/2003 +0200, you wrote: >--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Werner Schneider" ><wernerschneider@compuserve.com> > >A short side note, > >just make sure you clean the location where you add the strap very >toroughly, I had an engine start problem first, because I did not do it >good enough (was hard to get the backed paint from the lug). > >BTW on my O-320 it was an AN-5 hole. Someone mentioned an AN-3 (3/16") hardware connection, I'd MUCH rather see something larger. 1/4" is minimum, 5/16" is great. Clean mating surfaces well, torque to 50 in-lb for 1/4", 90 in-lb for 5/16" unless instructions for your engine says otherwise. It's that terminal deforming "mash" that gets you the gas-tight, works-good-lasts-a-long-time connection. Bob . . .


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    Time: 06:23:59 AM PST US
    From: "Robert L. Nuckolls, III" <bob.nuckolls@cox.net>
    Subject: Re: DC power panel minutia
    --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Robert L. Nuckolls, III" <bob.nuckolls@cox.net> At 09:58 PM 9/11/2003 -0500, you wrote: >--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "David Carter" ><dcarter@datarecall.net> > >Bob, sorry I missed the start of this discussion - "this simple system" - >are you & D J talking about a "low voltage warning module" that B&C sells? >What would I look for on the B&C website (I just looked and didn't see >anything like you all are talking about)? Or, are you only talking about a >lamp (LED) fixture that is fed from a pin of the the LR3 external voltage >regulator? B&C's regulators have low voltage warning built in. I have a Low Voltage Warning and Aux Battery Management Module that you can see at: http://www.aeroelectric.com/Catalog/AEC/9005/9005.html Either one or a DIY project like: http://www.aeroelectric.com/articles/lvwarn/LVWarn-ABMM.html http://www.aeroelectric.com/articles/lvwarn/9021-620.pdf is a good idea for any airplane. Bob . . .


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    Time: 07:23:21 AM PST US
    From: Bobdeva@aol.com
    Subject: KI 208
    --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Bobdeva@aol.com Would anyone happen to have a pin-out for a KI-208 cdi? Will be used with a KX125. Thanks, Bob Devaney


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    Time: 07:29:43 AM PST US
    From: "Brian & Debi Shannon" <wings@theshannons.net>
    Subject: Re: Little recognition lights
    --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Brian & Debi Shannon" <wings@theshannons.net> Check out these lights.... http://www.leadingedgeaircraft.com/airlite1.html ---


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    Time: 11:22:34 AM PST US
    From: N823ms@aol.com
    Subject: Re: Thanks for the explanation
    --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: N823ms@aol.com In a message dated 09/11/2003 11:07:11 PM Central Standard Time, bob.nuckolls@cox.net writes: Do you plan to crank with both Batteries? Yes: I thought that is what the Z-14 allows you to do. I have already done a load analysis, its been awhile since you have seen it. I briefly showed it to you in Nashville this past Feb. Ed Silvanic


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    Time: 12:03:03 PM PST US
    From: "Robert L. Nuckolls, III" <bob.nuckolls@cox.net>
    Subject: Re: Thanks for the explanation
    --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Robert L. Nuckolls, III" <bob.nuckolls@cox.net> At 02:18 PM 9/12/2003 -0400, you wrote: >--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: N823ms@aol.com > >In a message dated 09/11/2003 11:07:11 PM Central Standard Time, >bob.nuckolls@cox.net writes: >Do you plan to crank with both > Batteries? >Yes: > > I thought that is what the Z-14 allows you to do. I have already done a >load analysis, its been awhile since you have seen it. I briefly showed it to >you in Nashville this past Feb. > >Ed Silvanic Okay . . . very good. Z-14 with even the most rudimentary level of battery maintenance gives you an order of system reliability not found on any other airplanes I've seen. Sounds like you're well under control. Bob . . .


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    Time: 12:16:01 PM PST US
    From: "Robert L. Nuckolls, III" <bob.nuckolls@cox.net>
    Subject: Re: KI 208
    --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Robert L. Nuckolls, III" <bob.nuckolls@cox.net> At 10:22 AM 9/12/2003 -0400, you wrote: >--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Bobdeva@aol.com > >Would anyone happen to have a pin-out for a KI-208 cdi? Will be used with a >KX125. >Thanks, Bob Devaney > http://216.55.140.222/Installation_Data/KI208-209.pdf http://216.55.140.222/Installation_Data/KI208A-209A.pdf Bob . . .


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    Time: 12:59:04 PM PST US
    From: "Bell, Bruce B." <rv4bell@door.net>
    Subject: Question!
    --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Bell, Bruce B." <rv4bell@door.net> Good afternoon Bob, I installed two 17 amp batteries and one 40 amp alternator in my RV4. I thought you had a drawing showing this set up. I can't seem to find it on your web site. Is it still a good idea? Regards, Bruce Bell Lubbock, Texas RV4 # 2888 DO NOT ARCHIVE


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    Time: 02:32:45 PM PST US
    Subject: Landing & Taxi lights
    From: "David.vonLinsowe" <David.vonLinsowe@delphi.com>
    --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "David.vonLinsowe" <David.vonLinsowe@delphi.com> Hi all, I'm going to upgrade my panel and electrical architecture this winter. I'm doing the panel layout phase and was wondering about the landing and taxi lights. Currently the landing and taxi lights are individually operated through their own switches. What would be the pros and cons of this setup vs. having them both on the same switch? Beyond that, how about a 3 position switch with one position wig-wag? Then does it make more sense to have the wig-wag come on first or the continuous first (middle switch position)? Thanks, Dave All electric, Aero Electric E.I., GRT Horizon 1, Digiflight II 200 & Garmin 430. Haven't decided, dual batteries or dual alternators...


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    Time: 03:35:52 PM PST US
    From: "William Slaughter" <willslau@alumni.rice.edu>
    Subject: Landing & Taxi lights
    --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "William Slaughter" <willslau@alumni.rice.edu> I'm planning to have the landing and taxi lights on one switch with positions off, taxi, and both with the wig-wag a separate switch, since it's a recognition function similar to the strobes. Since mine is a taildragger, I'm assuming that the taxi light will need to be aimed quite a bit lower, but I'll want both lights on during landing so that the taxi light will come into play as the tail settles and the landing light rotates up too high. Right now I'm planning a row of four switches for lights in this order: strobes, wig-wag, position lights, taxi/landing. William Slaughter Houston Texas RV-8 -----Original Message----- From: owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of David.vonLinsowe Subject: AeroElectric-List: Landing & Taxi lights --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "David.vonLinsowe" --> <David.vonLinsowe@delphi.com> Hi all, I'm going to upgrade my panel and electrical architecture this winter. I'm doing the panel layout phase and was wondering about the landing and taxi lights. Currently the landing and taxi lights are individually operated through their own switches. What would be the pros and cons of this setup vs. having them both on the same switch? Beyond that, how about a 3 position switch with one position wig-wag? Then does it make more sense to have the wig-wag come on first or the continuous first (middle switch position)? Thanks, Dave All electric, Aero Electric E.I., GRT Horizon 1, Digiflight II 200 & Garmin 430. Haven't decided, dual batteries or dual alternators... direct advertising on the Matronics Forums.


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    Time: 04:12:17 PM PST US
    From: "Gilles.Thesee" <Gilles.Thesee@ac-grenoble.fr>
    Subject: Re: OV Module question for Bob
    --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Gilles.Thesee" <Gilles.Thesee@ac-grenoble.fr> > > What's preventing you from putting in a 2-10? They're > exactly the same size and wire up the same way. I don't > see that it's a grinding "requirement " to label the > mid position and the existing labels are true and > correct for the extreme positions. > For panel space reasons our switches are miniature models. My buddy carefully chose them, installed them, even aligned the screw slots. When -and if- I tell him he has to change to a different and bigger model for the master switch I'm afraid he'll get some tar and feathers ;-) The engine is a Rotax and your OV setup is the only one I heard of for this type of engine. So I'd better stick to it. After reading those messages about nuisance trips and the newer version of your OV module, I was only asking just in case. Cheers Gilles


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    Time: 08:47:06 PM PST US
    From: "Robert L. Nuckolls, III" <bob.nuckolls@cox.net>
    Subject: Re: OV Module question for Bob
    --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Robert L. Nuckolls, III" <bob.nuckolls@cox.net> At 01:08 AM 9/13/2003 +0200, you wrote: >--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Gilles.Thesee" ><Gilles.Thesee@ac-grenoble.fr> > > > > > > What's preventing you from putting in a 2-10? They're > > exactly the same size and wire up the same way. I don't > > see that it's a grinding "requirement " to label the > > mid position and the existing labels are true and > > correct for the extreme positions. > > >For panel space reasons our switches are miniature models. My buddy >carefully chose them, installed them, even aligned the screw slots. >When -and if- I tell him he has to change to a different and bigger model >for the master switch I'm afraid he'll get some tar and feathers ;-) Hmmmm . . . miniature toggles? you can get the 2-10 function in these as well. >The engine is a Rotax and your OV setup is the only one I heard of for this >type of engine. So I'd better stick to it. After reading those messages >about nuisance trips and the newer version of your OV module, I was only >asking just in case. Okay, for the moment, let's get your airplane flying by pulling the breaker during startup. You have plenty of other issues to address with getting a new airplane flying. When this one bubbles back to the top of the list, we'll do some experimenting to see if we can identify and implement a fix. Bob . . .


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    Time: 08:51:57 PM PST US
    From: "Robert L. Nuckolls, III" <bob.nuckolls@cox.net>
    Subject: Re: Question!
    --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Robert L. Nuckolls, III" <bob.nuckolls@cox.net> At 02:57 PM 9/12/2003 -0500, you wrote: >--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Bell, Bruce B." <rv4bell@door.net> > >Good afternoon Bob, >I installed two 17 amp batteries and one 40 amp alternator in my RV4. I >thought you had a drawing showing this set up. I can't seem to find it on >your web site. Is it still a good idea? >Regards, >Bruce Bell >Lubbock, Texas >RV4 # 2888 sure. don't know why not. You can add an extra battery to any existing battery with addition of a battery contactor, battery, battery bus and battery master switch. This is illustrated in Figure Z-30 of http://www.aeroelectric.com/articles/Rev10/z10.pdf Bob . . .




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