Today's Message Index:
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1. 05:16 AM - Re: Battery on Engine side of firewall (Robert L. Nuckolls, III)
2. 06:01 AM - Signs of alt starting to fail (Scott Bilinski)
3. 06:11 AM - Re: AVG / Grisoft antivirus (Robert L. Nuckolls, III)
4. 06:19 AM - Re: AVG / Grisoft antivirus (George Bass)
5. 07:39 AM - AOA Indicator (Eric M. Jones)
6. 09:11 AM - Battery Ground ()
7. 09:40 AM - Re: Failure analysis to plagiarize? (Robert L. Nuckolls, III)
8. 10:16 AM - LED position lights (Bob Kuc)
9. 12:00 PM - Re: Battery Ground (Robert L. Nuckolls, III)
10. 07:19 PM - Re: Signs of alt starting to fail (Robert L. Nuckolls, III)
11. 08:05 PM - Fw: RV-List: Ground block location (David Carter)
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| Subject: | Re: Battery on Engine side of firewall |
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Robert L. Nuckolls, III" <bob.nuckolls@cox.net>
At 09:06 PM 9/16/2003 -0500, you wrote:
>--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Ralph E. Capen"
><recapen@earthlink.net>
>
>Fellow listers,
>
>The RV 7 and 9 crowds (with new recomendations to the 6 guys) are putting
>their batteries (Odyssey)forward of the firewall according to the firewall
>forward info I'm now getting from Vans with the firewall forward kit.
>
>Are there compelling reasons NOT to do this?
>
>I can think of heat....! Maybe those batteries are immune!?
>
>I'm not too far past this point - is it time to go back and make this so?
>
>Thanks,
>Ralph Capen
>Already put my grounding block where this new battery box is supposed to
>go......
What reasons were given for the latest recommendations?
Batteries have lived happily under the cowl, under seats, and back
behind seats on hundreds of thousands of airplanes for over
60 years. There's no compelling environmental reason for selecting
one over the other. Most batteries are positioned to satisfy
space and/or weight and balance considerations. If you're happy
with where your battery is now, I wouldn't change it.
Bob . . .
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( Knowing about a thing is different than )
( understanding it. One can know a lot )
( and still understand nothing. )
( C.F. Kettering )
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| Subject: | Signs of alt starting to fail |
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Scott Bilinski <bilinski@kyocera-wireless.com>
Is there any way to tell if your alternator is on its last leg? What are
the signs?
Scott Bilinski
Eng dept 305
Phone (858) 657-2536
Pager (858) 502-5190
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| Subject: | Re: AVG / Grisoft antivirus |
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Robert L. Nuckolls, III" <bob.nuckolls@cox.net>
At 10:47 PM 9/16/2003 -0700, you wrote:
>--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Rob W M Shipley" <rob@robsglass.com>
>
>NOT RV RELATED
>I'm posting this to the list since I'm aware that many listers use this
>antivirus software.
>I've been using their free offering for a while now - in fact since turned
>on to it by another lister. In the last week I've been making some
>changes with my ISP and some server problems have arisen.
>I am now unable to receive my scheduled updates and after a complete
>reinstall on one computer I cannot get a response from AVG to the request
>for a password to activate the new installation.
>I would be very grateful if anyone can help me figure out if there is a
>problem with AVG or my ISP's server.
>I really would like to be able to continue using this program but since
>there is no reply to the activation code request I'm wondering if they
>have discontinued the free antivirus service.
>Any help appreciated.
We've used AVG here for years with excellent service. I
checked the orders server this morning and it had automatically
downloaded the latest update for the free version but the
computer on my desk had not. I did a manual download but
it was exceedingly slow . . . they usually take about 10
seconds, this one took several minutes. I suspect there
is a bottleneck in their connection somewhere.
If you're trying to install the free version, try
6-XFREE-522613-AVG for a serial number.
Bob . . .
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| Subject: | Re: AVG / Grisoft antivirus |
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "George Bass" <George_Bass_0@hotmail.com>
Rob;
I have no idea why you are experiencing the
problem you stated, with the AVG folks, but,
I can tell you that I had a similar problem a
few days ago (maybe a wek now) with my
copy of their anti-virus software.
For some unknown reason, I was unable to
do an update to the version/copy that I had on
my system (tried several methods). Finally,
I just did a COMPLETE un-install, re-booted
the machine and went to the AVG site again &
downloaded another copy, as a new user, and
it has been working fine ever since.
Sometimes these things seem to have a mind of
their own and I would be very rich if I could
come up with a method/device to analize one.
Good luck with your efforts, as I don't know
of any other software that is as good/any better
than AVG for protection.
George
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--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Eric M. Jones" <emjones@charter.net>
Check these out--
http://www.supercub.org/woe/woe0402.php
http://www.allstar.fiu.edu/aerojava/PSSI.htm
Then search Google (Whenever someone asks for info I shrug and say "Google", I
wish they had named it something powerful and elegant-sounding, because we're
probably going to wind up worshipping it!")
Then consider that maybe the pressure type is not the best type. A small flying
horizontal vane on the tail would work. As would two strain gauges on your pitot
tube. A million way to do this job if you want to build your own. .
Eric
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FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS, HTML_40_50, HTML_MESSAGE, NO_REAL_NAME
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: <jimk36@comcast.net>
Bob--
Re metal airframe, tractor engine, battery in aft fuselage -- do you recommend
ground wire from battery to firewall ground? In addition to grounding to airframe
at the battery location? Or not needed?
Sorry to bother you with such a basic [read dumb] question but it wasn't clear
to me in the "Connection".
Jim
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| Subject: | Re: Failure analysis to plagiarize? |
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Robert L. Nuckolls, III" <bob.nuckolls@cox.net>
At 11:43 PM 9/15/2003 -0400, you wrote:
>--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Eric M. Jones" <emjones@charter.net>
>
>Type into Google "free fault tree analysis" and see what happens.
>
>Eric
A "failure analysis" or as cited in my writings "failure mode
effects analysis" (FMEA) is much different than a fault tree
analysis. The later is used to guestimate the probability
of any particular system becoming unusable due to failure
of an associated component or sub-system. Those-who-would-
protect-us-from-ourselves are fond of this tool for deciding
whether or not some proposed system will be blessed for use
in flight-for-hire aircraft . . .
The goal of this tool is to help drive a system design down to
less than 1 failure per million flight hours. Not easy,
always difficult, and not particularly exact.
FMEA is different. Here we can sort airframe components
into two categories . . . necessary and convenient for
comfortable completion of flight. When a component falls
into the "necessary" category, what's required to make sure
the services of this system and/or its backup are available?
The basic reliability assumption we're making here is
the probability of DUAL failure of primary and backup
systems in any single three-hour flight is exceedingly
low . . .
Beyond that, system configuration by FMEA is more of
a design and operating philosophy exercise where
as fault tree analysis is an analytical approach
to reliability prediction. I much prefer the latter
because it makes us think in terms of failure tolerance
as opposed to failure proofing . . .
I'll suggest FMEA is much preferred for our purposes
because it is so easy to understand and depends
on perfectly ordinary logic and makes good
use of inexpensive components.
Bob . . .
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| Subject: | LED position lights |
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Bob Kuc" <bkuc1@tampabay.rr.com>
While sitting at the local FSDO, and looking through a few mags, there was
an advertisement for Whelen. Apparently they now sell position and
anti-collision LED lights that have been TSO'd.
Bob
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| Subject: | Re: Battery Ground |
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Robert L. Nuckolls, III" <bob.nuckolls@cox.net>
At 12:19 PM 9/17/2003 -0400, you wrote:
>--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: <jimk36@comcast.net>
>
>Bob--
>
>Re metal airframe, tractor engine, battery in aft fuselage -- do you
>recommend ground wire from battery to firewall ground? In addition to
>grounding to airframe at the battery location? Or not needed?
>
>Sorry to bother you with such a basic [read dumb] question but it wasn't
>clear to me in the "Connection".
If it were my airplane, I'd avoid using any
structure for electrical conductivity aside from
the few components I've cited recently. Obviously,
this argues with apparently successful machines that
ground engines through the mounts and tie system
grounds to what ever structure is handiest . . .
Your system will not refuse to function if you
choose the traditional route.
Bob . . .
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| Subject: | Re: Signs of alt starting to fail |
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Robert L. Nuckolls, III" <bob.nuckolls@cox.net>
At 06:00 AM 9/17/2003 -0700, you wrote:
>--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Scott Bilinski
><bilinski@kyocera-wireless.com>
>
>Is there any way to tell if your alternator is on its last leg? What are
>the signs?
Do you have a doubtful alternator? Progressive failures
tend to be wear-out issues. Bearings getting noisy, brushes
worn so that voltage regulator is having trouble keeping
output steady . . . failure beyond these two issues
tend to be catastrophic . . . something breaks rendering
the alternator crippled or inoperative.
A balanced ND alternator should run to TBO on your
engine with no more effort than to keep a good belt
on it and properly tensioned.
Bob . . .
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| Subject: | Fw: RV-List: Ground block location |
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "David Carter" <dcarter@datarecall.net>
Fwd'g this nice reply from Paul Bessing on the RV-list to Aeroelectric
list - WHigg 1170 had asked a few days ago.
(Very nice Website, Paul Besing!! Can you e-mail me off-list how you "do"
that website? Special software? Lots of work?! <grin>)
David Carter
----- Original Message -----
From: "Paul Besing" <azpilot@extremezone.com>
Subject: RV-List: Ground block location
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Paul Besing" <azpilot@extremezone.com>
>
> Here is a picture of mine. Worked fine here.
>
> http://www.lacodeworks.com/besing/wiring.htm
>
> Paul Besing
> RV-6A Sold (Waiting on the RV-10)
> http://www.lacodeworks.com/besing
> Kitlog Pro Builder's Log Software
> http://www.kitlog.com
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "David Carter" <dcarter@datarecall.net>
> To: "RV-list" <rv-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: RV-List: Fw: AeroElectric-List: Ground block location
>
>
> > --> RV-List message posted by: "David Carter" <dcarter@datarecall.net>
> >
> > Fwd'd from Aeroelectric List for RV-specific response.
> >
> > DC
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Robert L. Nuckolls, III" <bob.nuckolls@cox.net>
> > To: <aeroelectric-list@matronics.com>
> > Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: Ground block location
> >
> >
> > > --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Robert L. Nuckolls, III"
> > <bob.nuckolls@cox.net>
> > >
> > > At 12:18 PM 9/13/2003 -0400, you wrote:
> > > >--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: WHigg1170@aol.com
> > > >
> > > >Hello I have a question on the B&C 24 terminal ground block location.
I
> > don't
> > > >have the engine or mount and I want to place the ground block on the
> > cabin
> > > >side of the firewall but don't know were to put it so it won't be in
> the
> > > >way and
> > > >also still use vans #2 cables that came with the wiring harness kit.
> > Thanks
> > > >
> > > >Bill
> > > >RV-6
> > >
> > > Can any RV builders help Bill out with this?
> > >
> > > Bob . . .
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
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