AeroElectric-List Digest Archive

Sun 10/26/03


Total Messages Posted: 13



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     1. 12:28 AM - Re: New member ... (Michel RIAZUELO)
     2. 08:35 AM - Van's Windscreen Antenna (Neil Henderson)
     3. 09:00 AM - "flag" style fast-ons (Dan Checkoway)
     4. 09:37 AM - Re: "flag" style fast-ons (Terry Watson)
     5. 10:14 AM - grounding hardware (Steve Mineart)
     6. 10:32 AM - Re: "flag" style fast-ons (Terry Watson)
     7. 10:38 AM - Re: "flag" style fast-ons (Dan Checkoway)
     8. 11:12 AM - Re: "flag" style fast-ons (N566u@aol.com)
     9. 02:03 PM - Re: "flag" style fast-ons (Dan Checkoway)
    10. 04:32 PM - Hot Seat (BAKEROCB@aol.com)
    11. 05:58 PM - Re: Hot Seat (melvinke@direcway.com)
    12. 08:12 PM - Re: Hot Seat (Charlie Kuss)
    13. 08:44 PM - Re: Hot Seat (BTomm)
 
 
 


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    Time: 12:28:13 AM PST US
    From: "Michel RIAZUELO" <mt.riazuelo@wanadoo.fr>
    Subject: Re: New member ...
    --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Michel RIAZUELO" <mt.riazuelo@wanadoo.fr> Hi Bob, Thanks for your answer. >Does the flap motor and gear reduction system have the capability to bend >airplane parts if the flap jams or fails to stop at extend or retract >limits? Not, fortunately! >On the other hand, if your airplane has any risk of becoming >an unmanageable beast because of inability to operate the >flaps, a more cautious approach to flap controls and backups >is in order. I suspect this is not the case. MCR SPORTSTER flies, takes off, land and climb in all flaps configurations. I would have to think I made an error by putting my question. >It's uncommon for a reasonably sized relay to stick >closed carrying flap motor current. And it is even truer with two S704-1!!!!! And I make http://www.aeroelectric.com/articles/flaps.pdf mine ! Michel . . . MCR SPORTSTER in progress . . .


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    Time: 08:35:41 AM PST US
    From: "Neil Henderson" <neil.mo51@btopenworld.com>
    <rv-list@matronics.com>
    Subject: Van's Windscreen Antenna
    --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Neil Henderson" <neil.mo51@btopenworld.com> Listers I'm thinking of using the Van's style windscreen mounted comm's antenna. At $7 I assume it can only be a BNC bulkhead connector and a length of self adhisive copper tape. As I have both items to hand in my tool box this could be a very economic route to take. Could anyone who has installed one confirm my assumption and does the installation perform sarisfactorily. Neil Henderson RV9-A Nr Aylesbury UK


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    Time: 09:00:21 AM PST US
    From: "Dan Checkoway" <dan@rvproject.com>
    Subject: "flag" style fast-ons
    --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Dan Checkoway" <dan@rvproject.com> I'm wiring my LightSpeed coils, which are mounted aft on top of my IO-360's case. Trouble is, there's very little clearance (about 1/2") between the terminals on the coils and the rear baffle wall. The issue this raises is that I'm not comfortable using traditional straight fast-on connectors, since the wires would have to bend sharply immediately behind the connector. So I've been looking for "flag" style fast-ons. The one I found is a Molex 19006-0001: http://www.molex.com/pdm_docs/sd/190060001_sd.pdf From what I've read in the archives, these flag connectors cannot be crimped using my run of the mill red/blue/yellow ratcheting crimper, but rather require crimpers that cost hundreds. I've only got 4 of these puppies to crimp, so it's um...difficult...to justify spending hundreds if there's another option. If there's a better or alternative technique for sharply right-angling wires at the fast-on, please let me know. Thanks in advance, )_( Dan RV-7 N714D http://www.rvproject.com


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    Time: 09:37:59 AM PST US
    From: "Terry Watson" <terry@tcwatson.com>
    Subject: "flag" style fast-ons
    --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Terry Watson" <terry@tcwatson.com> Dan, I haven't fit the baffles or wired the Lightspeed yet, but for some reason I mounted the coils with the connectors pointed forward. Would that let you make a bigger radius turn and put less stress on the connector? Terry --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Dan Checkoway" <dan@rvproject.com> I'm wiring my LightSpeed coils, which are mounted aft on top of my IO-360's case. Trouble is, there's very little clearance (about 1/2") between the terminals on the coils and the rear baffle wall.


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    Time: 10:14:26 AM PST US
    From: "Steve Mineart" <smineart@kdsi.net>
    Subject: grounding hardware
    --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Steve Mineart" <smineart@kdsi.net> I'm brand new to the list, looking forward to learning. I'm building a Zenith CH601XL, and I knew I was electrically challenged, just didn't know it would be so telling so soon. I need to know what the best materials and method are for grounding to the aluminum airframe, so I can install my fuel sender in the most permanent and fail-safe way. By the way, I have really enjoyed my forst time through the Aeroelectric Connection, and plan to read it over again and again until I really understand the wealth of information. Thanks! Steve Mineart


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    Time: 10:32:34 AM PST US
    From: "Terry Watson" <terry@tcwatson.com>
    Subject: "flag" style fast-ons
    --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Terry Watson" <terry@tcwatson.com> Oops, I just looked at my coils and my answer doesn't make sense. I was thinking about the banana plugs instead of the fastons. Sorry. Terry Do not archive -----Original Message----- From: owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Terry Watson Subject: RE: AeroElectric-List: "flag" style fast-ons --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Terry Watson" <terry@tcwatson.com> Dan, I haven't fit the baffles or wired the Lightspeed yet, but for some reason I mounted the coils with the connectors pointed forward. Would that let you make a bigger radius turn and put less stress on the connector? Terry --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Dan Checkoway" <dan@rvproject.com> I'm wiring my LightSpeed coils, which are mounted aft on top of my IO-360's case. Trouble is, there's very little clearance (about 1/2") between the terminals on the coils and the rear baffle wall.


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    Time: 10:38:37 AM PST US
    From: "Dan Checkoway" <dan@rvproject.com>
    Subject: Re: "flag" style fast-ons
    --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Dan Checkoway" <dan@rvproject.com> > I haven't fit the baffles or wired the Lightspeed yet, but for some reason I > mounted the coils with the connectors pointed forward. Would that let you > make a bigger radius turn and put less stress on the connector? With the .250" terminals pointing forward, there wouldn't be enough room for the spark plug wires to attach on the back. Thanks for the suggestion, though, )_( Dan


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    Time: 11:12:29 AM PST US
    From: N566u@aol.com
    Subject: Re: "flag" style fast-ons
    --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: N566u@aol.com In a message dated 10/26/2003 10:00:53 AM US Mountain Standard Time, dan@rvproject.com writes: I mounted mine on the top of the engine on a bracket I made. By moving the coils forward some, I avioded the problem you are describing. The bracket supplied caused the coils to be mounted to far to the rear. More than one way to skin that rabbit! > I'm wiring my LightSpeed coils, which are mounted aft on top of my IO-360's > case. Trouble is, there's very little clearance (about 1/2") between the > terminals on the coils and the rear baffle wall. The issue this raises is > that I'm not comfortable using traditional straight fast-on connectors, > since the wires would have to bend sharply immediately behind the connector > > Ron Smith > n566u@aol.com


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    Time: 02:03:45 PM PST US
    From: "Dan Checkoway" <dan@rvproject.com>
    Subject: Re: "flag" style fast-ons
    --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Dan Checkoway" <dan@rvproject.com> > I mounted mine on the top of the engine on a bracket I made. By moving the > coils forward some, I avioded the problem you are describing. The bracket > supplied caused the coils to be mounted to far to the rear. More than one way to > skin that rabbit! Trust me, I tried to come up with a way to do it that way, moving the coils forward. Problem is I've got the flow divider and distribution lines spanning the top of the case right there, and I can't move the coils forward without performing surgery on the injector lines (undesirable, last resort). Jim Jewell sent me email showing me how he ground down his ratcheting crimper (same one I have) to accommodate the flag connector without damaging it. I think I might give that a try if nothing else pops up. Thanks again, everybody! )_( Dan RV-7 N714D http://www.rvproject.com


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    Time: 04:32:08 PM PST US
    From: BAKEROCB@aol.com
    Subject: Hot Seat
    --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: BAKEROCB@aol.com AeroElectric-List message previously posted by: Nick Gaglia <ngaglia@calpine.com> <<Does anyone know anything about seat heaters. Like they put in nice cars these days. Where to get them How much do they cost How much current do the take Has anyone used them in an experimental I'm building an RV-8 and I'm told the rear seat can be cold and not easy way to get heat back there, My wife is already cold blooded and I'm always to warm. In our car she turns on her seat heater and loves it. So I thought ??? Nick RV-8 >> 10/26/2003 Hello Nick, Instead why not go for electrically heated clothing like the motorcycle types use? Several advantages: weight, portability, availability, flexibility, style, ease of installation, electrical efficiency, body coverage, etc. etc. See <<www.gerbing.com>> for one source. Visit a motorcycle place or google search for more ideas. 'OC' Baker, Builder of KIS TR-1 #116 4/14/97 - ?/?/?


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    Time: 05:58:59 PM PST US
    From: melvinke@direcway.com
    Subject: Re: Hot Seat
    --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: melvinke@direcway.com Try AT-LAST thermal products (www.4atlast.com). I have their heated seats in my car and RV4. wonderful product! Kenneth Melvin, N36KM. ----- Original Message ----- From: BAKEROCB@aol.com Subject: AeroElectric-List: Hot Seat > --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: BAKEROCB@aol.com > > AeroElectric-List message previously posted by: Nick Gaglia > <ngaglia@calpine.com> > > <<Does anyone know anything about seat heaters. Like they put in > nice cars > these days. > > Where to get them > How much do they cost > How much current do the take > Has anyone used them in an experimental > > I'm building an RV-8 and I'm told the rear seat can be cold and > not easy way > to get heat back there, My wife is already cold blooded and I'm > always to > warm. In our car she turns on her seat heater and loves it. So I > thought ??? > Nick RV-8 >> > > 10/26/2003 > > Hello Nick, Instead why not go for electrically heated clothing > like the > motorcycle types use? Several advantages: weight, portability, > availability, > flexibility, style, ease of installation, electrical efficiency, > body coverage, > etc. etc. > > See <<www.gerbing.com>> for one source. Visit a motorcycle place > or google > search for more ideas. > > 'OC' Baker, Builder of KIS TR-1 #116 4/14/97 - ?/?/? > > > _- > _- > report_- > _- > ======================================================================== > > > >


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    Time: 08:12:44 PM PST US
    From: Charlie Kuss <chaskuss@bellsouth.net>
    Subject: Re: Hot Seat
    --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Charlie Kuss <chaskuss@bellsouth.net> Kenneth, I tried the link you supplied below, but it appears that it is not a valid web address. Charlie Kuss >--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: melvinke@direcway.com > >Try AT-LAST thermal products (www.4atlast.com). I have their heated seats in my car and RV4. wonderful product! >Kenneth Melvin, N36KM. > >----- Original Message ----- >From: BAKEROCB@aol.com >Date: Sunday, October 26, 2003 4:31 pm >Subject: AeroElectric-List: Hot Seat > >> --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: BAKEROCB@aol.com >> >> AeroElectric-List message previously posted by: Nick Gaglia >> <ngaglia@calpine.com> >> >> <<Does anyone know anything about seat heaters. Like they put in >> nice cars >> these days. >> >> Where to get them >> How much do they cost >> How much current do the take >> Has anyone used them in an experimental >> >> I'm building an RV-8 and I'm told the rear seat can be cold and >> not easy way >> to get heat back there, My wife is already cold blooded and I'm >> always to >> warm. In our car she turns on her seat heater and loves it. So I >> thought ??? >> Nick RV-8 >> >> >> 10/26/2003 >> >> Hello Nick, Instead why not go for electrically heated clothing >> like the >> motorcycle types use? Several advantages: weight, portability, >> availability, >> flexibility, style, ease of installation, electrical efficiency, >> body coverage, >> etc. etc. >> >> See <<www.gerbing.com>> for one source. Visit a motorcycle place >> or google >> search for more ideas. >> >> 'OC' Baker, Builder of KIS TR-1 #116 4/14/97 - ?/?/? >> >> >> _- >> _- >> report_- >> _- >> ======================================================================== >> >> >> >> > >


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    Time: 08:44:16 PM PST US
    From: BTomm <fvalarm@rapidnet.net>
    Subject: Hot Seat
    --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: BTomm <fvalarm@rapidnet.net> Ken Could you check the link you posted for the seat warmers. It seems incorrect. Bevan On Sunday, October 26, 2003 5:49 PM, melvinke@direcway.com [SMTP:melvinke@direcway.com] wrote: > --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: melvinke@direcway.com > > Try AT-LAST thermal products (www.4atlast.com). I have their heated seats in my car and RV4. wonderful product! > Kenneth Melvin, N36KM. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: BAKEROCB@aol.com > Date: Sunday, October 26, 2003 4:31 pm > Subject: AeroElectric-List: Hot Seat > > > --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: BAKEROCB@aol.com > > > > AeroElectric-List message previously posted by: Nick Gaglia > > <ngaglia@calpine.com> > > > > <<Does anyone know anything about seat heaters. Like they put in > > nice cars > > these days. > > > > Where to get them > > How much do they cost > > How much current do the take > > Has anyone used them in an experimental > > > > I'm building an RV-8 and I'm told the rear seat can be cold and > > not easy way > > to get heat back there, My wife is already cold blooded and I'm > > always to > > warm. In our car she turns on her seat heater and loves it. So I > > thought ??? > > Nick RV-8 >> > > > > 10/26/2003 > > > > Hello Nick, Instead why not go for electrically heated clothing > > like the > > motorcycle types use? Several advantages: weight, portability, > > availability, > > flexibility, style, ease of installation, electrical efficiency, > > body coverage, > > etc. etc. > > > > See <<www.gerbing.com>> for one source. Visit a motorcycle place > > or google > > search for more ideas. > > > > 'OC' Baker, Builder of KIS TR-1 #116 4/14/97 - ?/?/? > > > > > > _- > > _- > > report_- > > _- > > ======================================================================== > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >




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