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1. 12:58 AM - Re: Cockpit "Audio out" to videocamera (HereBostonTim@aol.com)
2. 05:05 AM - Re: Cockpit "Audio out" to videocamera ()
3. 05:18 AM - Re: NiMH batteries (Dennis O'Connor)
4. 05:48 AM - Re: Cockpit "Audio out" to videocamera (James E. Clark)
5. 06:11 AM - Re: Cockpit "Audio out" to videocamera (Robert L. Nuckolls, III)
6. 06:58 AM - Re: Cockpit "Audio out" to videocamera (f1rocket@telus.net)
7. 07:21 AM - Re: Cockpit "Audio out" to videocamera (Robert L. Nuckolls, III)
8. 07:24 AM - Re: Turn Coord (Robert L. Nuckolls, III)
9. 07:33 AM - Re: Cockpit "Audio out" to videocamera (James E. Clark)
10. 08:24 AM - Re: Audio out to Camcorder (Treff, Arthur)
11. 09:00 AM - Re: Cooling fan (Bill Hibbing)
12. 09:13 AM - Re: Turn Coord (Matt Prather)
13. 09:19 AM - Re: NiMH batteries (kempthornes)
14. 01:32 PM - Re: Cooling fan (Larry Hackney)
15. 01:47 PM - Re: Cooling fan (Phil Collins)
16. 02:02 PM - Re: Cooling fan (Terry Watson)
17. 02:04 PM - Re: Cooling fan (flmike)
18. 02:23 PM - Re: Cooling fan (Jon Finley)
19. 02:47 PM - NiMH batteries (David.vonLinsowe)
20. 03:13 PM - Remember when we used batteries? (Ronald Cox)
21. 05:57 PM - Re: Cooling fan (Charlie & Tupper England)
22. 06:40 PM - Re: Cooling fan (Bruce Gray)
23. 07:25 PM - Re: Cooling fan (Charlie & Tupper England)
24. 08:32 PM - Reusing batteries (Fergus Kyle)
25. 08:34 PM - Pitch Trim Motor Slowdown (J. Oberst)
26. 08:47 PM - Audio out to vieo camera (Fergus Kyle)
27. 10:25 PM - To E-Buss or not To E-buss (Don Boardman)
28. 10:51 PM - Engine Controls & Grounding (Don Boardman)
29. 11:19 PM - Apollo stuff - last chance (Richard@riley.net)
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| Subject: | Re: Cockpit "Audio out" to videocamera |
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: HereBostonTim@aol.com
FUCK OFF AND DIE...
ONE MORE E-MAIL TO ME AND YOU WILL BE ARRESTED.
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| Subject: | Re: Cockpit "Audio out" to videocamera |
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: <marknlisa@hometel.com>
Dave,
Actually, it's even simpler than that. Take a standard walkman-style
headphone, the type that don't have a frame and are made to plug directly
into your ear. Plug the jack into the audio input on your camera, then
put the speakers inside the headphone cups on your head (don't put them in
your ears, just lay them inside the headset cup). Sounds weird, but it
works like a charm -- the camera will "hear" everything you do.
Mark
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| Subject: | Re: NiMH batteries |
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Dennis O'Connor" <doconnor@chartermi.net>
MAHA has the best rechargeable cells, both NiMh and NiCad... Just do a
search on the name...
BTW, NiMh is not always the best choice for a battery... They have a
significantly faster self discharge rate than NiCad... If the photo gear
<whatever> is to sit for weeks between useage and recharge sessions you will
be better off with NiCad, compared to NiMh... However, NiMh is definitely
better when the cells are being used often, only partially discharged, and
then recharged... They do not develop a discharge memory like NiCad does...
But if they sit for a few weeks they will be flat just when you want them...
The other option, is that when useage is sporadic, then alakline or lithium,
non rechargeables may be the best choice... Their capacity exceeds that of
rechargeables, their operational cost is far less, and when they are done
you simply toss them and put in new ones...
I had NiCad in all my cameras, head sets, walkie talkies, etc... When NiMh
came out I jumped into it big time buying hundred of dollars worth of cells,
chargers, etc... A big mistake - keeping the backup batteries in my GPS
units, hand radios, Nikon F5, etc., charged and ready to go is a major chore
due to the rapid self discharge of NiMh... As those cells are now finally
beginning to wear out I am going back to NiCad for uses where I 'need' a
rechargeable... But more than that, I am changing back to alkaline cells...
I get them at the dollar store, flea markets, etc., anywhere I can get them
cheap and still fresh dated... I keep a supply on hand in the plane, car,
camera bag, etc., and simply toss the run down cells and install fresh...
The old days may have been better, after all...
Denny
The real advantage of Lithium non rechargeables is the zero self discharge
rate... These batteries can sit for many years waiting to be used and when
the time comes they are ready to go ... Of course, that advantage costs
more, but their ah capacity exceeds any other cell type and if your
equipment has a heavy current draw and ahving to shut down to change
batteries is a no-no they may be the best bang
for the buck...
----- Original Message -----
From: "David.vonLinsowe" <David.vonLinsowe@delphi.com>
Subject: AeroElectric-List: NiMH batteries
> --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "David.vonLinsowe"
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>
>
> A little off aircraft electronics, but while on the topic of NiMH
> batteries, where would you find the best rechargeable AA pencell type
> NiMH batteries? The ones in the camera stores don't list a mah rating.
>
> I'm heading over to the Wright reenactment and I don't want to worry
> about missing something because of the batteries in my digital camera.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Dave
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| Subject: | Cockpit "Audio out" to videocamera |
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "James E. Clark" <james@nextupventures.com>
"HereBostonTim" (and anyone that gets "unwanted" messages and is wondering
what is going on),
It looks like someone (a friend ... or enemy of yours) has "subscribed" you
to this email list. They had to know your email address. So that is the
person to whom you may want to direct your frustration.
Now, to get "UNSUBSCRIBED" to these messages, follow the instructions that
are listed at the BOTTOM of each message. I have cut and pasted the relevant
URL that you should click and follow. It is a straightforward process.
You will need to "unsubscribe" to each mailing list that your "friend" has
subscribed you to.
Have a nice day.
James
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| Subject: | Re: Cockpit "Audio out" to videocamera |
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Robert L. Nuckolls, III" <bob.nuckolls@cox.net>
At 03:57 AM 12/5/2003 -0500, you wrote:
>--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: HereBostonTim@aol.com
>
>FUCK OFF AND DIE...
>ONE MORE E-MAIL TO ME AND YOU WILL BE ARRESTED.
Sorry my foul-mouthed friend, but it seems that one
more e-mail is in order. For you to have received any
e-mail from this list service, you or someone using
your computer had to SIGN UP for it at
http://www.matronics.com/subscribe/
Soooo . . . if you will simply click the link above
and then enter your e-mail address in the space
provided followed by checking the appropriate box
to UNSUBSCRIBE to any and all lists from this service,
you will be relieved of hearing from any of us again.
In the mean time, if you're real desire is to have
someone arrested, have them contact me directly at
6936 Bainbridge, Wichita, KS and I'll go quietly
if indeed that is their mission. But given that
we won the last Big One, I believe we're still
relatively free from such off-hand action by those
with the power to infringe upon the liberty of
citizens.
May I further suggest that you invest in a simple
mail filter program that will have more benefits
to your life than a bucket of Vallium . . . I use
Mail Washer pro from:
http://www.firetrust.com/products/mailwasherpro/
It takes me seconds before opening the mail to
dump 95% of the e-mail arriving in my box and to
black-list offenders so that I don't need to
make a keep/dump decision on them in the future.
It also allows one to maintain a friends list that
will always accept e-mail from certain addresses.
One more potty-mouth response from you sir will get
you on my blacklist.
Bob . . .
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( A beginning of the end is marked by )
( replacement of experience and common )
( sense with policy and procedures. )
( R. L. Nuckolls III )
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| Subject: | Re: Cockpit "Audio out" to videocamera |
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: f1rocket@telus.net
I have to defend this Tim fellow. A freind of mine sent me the same e-mail at
home, and what happened was he had one of those nasty worms. So please ignore
any e-mails like this, I'm sure he didn't really send it, as it is worded
exactly like the one I received.
Jeff
Quoting "Robert L. Nuckolls, III" <bob.nuckolls@cox.net>:
> --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Robert L. Nuckolls, III"
> <bob.nuckolls@cox.net>
>
> At 03:57 AM 12/5/2003 -0500, you wrote:
> >--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: HereBostonTim@aol.com
> >
> >FUCK OFF AND DIE...
> >ONE MORE E-MAIL TO ME AND YOU WILL BE ARRESTED.
>
> Sorry my foul-mouthed friend, but it seems that one
> more e-mail is in order. For you to have received any
> e-mail from this list service, you or someone using
> your computer had to SIGN UP for it at
> http://www.matronics.com/subscribe/
>
> Soooo . . . if you will simply click the link above
> and then enter your e-mail address in the space
> provided followed by checking the appropriate box
> to UNSUBSCRIBE to any and all lists from this service,
> you will be relieved of hearing from any of us again.
>
> In the mean time, if you're real desire is to have
> someone arrested, have them contact me directly at
> 6936 Bainbridge, Wichita, KS and I'll go quietly
> if indeed that is their mission. But given that
> we won the last Big One, I believe we're still
> relatively free from such off-hand action by those
> with the power to infringe upon the liberty of
> citizens.
>
> May I further suggest that you invest in a simple
> mail filter program that will have more benefits
> to your life than a bucket of Vallium . . . I use
> Mail Washer pro from:
>
> http://www.firetrust.com/products/mailwasherpro/
>
> It takes me seconds before opening the mail to
> dump 95% of the e-mail arriving in my box and to
> black-list offenders so that I don't need to
> make a keep/dump decision on them in the future.
> It also allows one to maintain a friends list that
> will always accept e-mail from certain addresses.
>
> One more potty-mouth response from you sir will get
> you on my blacklist.
>
>
> Bob . . .
>
> --------------------------------------------
> ( A beginning of the end is marked by )
> ( replacement of experience and common )
> ( sense with policy and procedures. )
> ( R. L. Nuckolls III )
> --------------------------------------------
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Cockpit "Audio out" to videocamera |
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Robert L. Nuckolls, III" <bob.nuckolls@cox.net>
At 06:58 AM 12/5/2003 -0800, you wrote:
>--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: f1rocket@telus.net
>
>I have to defend this Tim fellow. A freind of mine sent me the same
>e-mail at
>home, and what happened was he had one of those nasty worms. So please
>ignore
>any e-mails like this, I'm sure he didn't really send it, as it is worded
>exactly like the one I received.
>
>Jeff
Good data point, thanks! Sounds like he may need a good firewall
as opposed to a mail filter!
Bob . . .
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--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Robert L. Nuckolls, III" <bob.nuckolls@cox.net>
At 11:02 PM 12/4/2003 -0800, you wrote:
>--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Larry Hackney"
><lhackney@rglobal.net>
>
>Robert,
>
>I was at your seminar in Watsonville last month. I'd mentioned that I had
>a Falcon turn coordinator and I'd read that they had a reputation for
>producing radio noise. You said I should get some roof flashing and wrap
>around it 2 or 3 times to control the noise.
>
>I'm just wondering if there's anything lighter, simpler that would
>work? How about aluminum foil? Or some kind of duct insulation or even
>sound proofing material?
It isn't "sound proofing" your looking for. It's magnetic
shielding. This requires a shell of material that will
trap lines of magnetic force emanating from within the
T/C. First, see if you have a noise problem. Then do
the detective work to see if it's magnetic radiation or
electrical conduction. Then craft an experiment for
breaking the propagation mode that causes the
noise problem.
If you do need magnetic shielding, roof flashing is
thin, easily worked and readily acquired. MuMetal is
also thin, light and much more effective than soft
steels . . . but it's a bear to work with and hard
to acquire. But don't do anything until you know you
need it and then use only those techniques that
mitigate your particular problem.
Bob . . .
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| Subject: | Cockpit "Audio out" to videocamera |
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "James E. Clark" <james@nextupventures.com>
oops. Left off the "direct line". Here it is. Just "click it" to "fix it".
:-)
UN/SUBSCRIBE: http://www.matronics.com/subscription
James
>
> --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "James E. Clark"
> <james@nextupventures.com>
>
> "HereBostonTim" (and anyone that gets "unwanted" messages and is wondering
> what is going on),
>
> It looks like someone (a friend ... or enemy of yours) has
> "subscribed" you
> to this email list. They had to know your email address. So that is the
> person to whom you may want to direct your frustration.
>
> Now, to get "UNSUBSCRIBED" to these messages, follow the instructions that
> are listed at the BOTTOM of each message. I have cut and pasted
> the relevant
> URL that you should click and follow. It is a straightforward process.
>
>
> You will need to "unsubscribe" to each mailing list that your "friend" has
> subscribed you to.
>
> Have a nice day.
>
> James
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Audio out to Camcorder |
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Treff, Arthur" <Arthur.Treff@Smartm.com>
David,
They have what you need at Aircraft Spruce. $28.95. Plugs between your headset
and the panel. I got one and it works great. No noise, only radios and intercom
talk. Crystal clear. The part number is: 11-00692.
Arthur Treff
Rv-8 Wiring
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--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Bill Hibbing" <n744bh@bellsouth.net>
Larry;
On my Garmin GPS/comm the tray has a built in fitting for attaching a tube
and feeding outside fresh air into the unit. If any of your avionics have
something like this you can fabricate some tubing (vinyl, etc.) to get cool
air to your avionics for almost free. Don't know if this will work with
your installation but it might be something to look into.
Bill
Glasair
> Robert,
>
> Could you recommend a cheaper avionics cooling fan than the one's in the
Spruce catalog? Prices range from $129 up to $272?
>
> Larry
>
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--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Matt Prather" <mprather@spro.net>
Hi everyone,
Here is a basic discussion regarding magnetic sheilding relevant
to little airplanes...
http://www.physlink.com/Education/AskExperts/ae512.cfm
It appears that roof flashing has the requisite magnetic permeability,
is cheap, and readily available.
Regards,
Matt-
N34RD
> --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Robert L. Nuckolls, III"
> <bob.nuckolls@cox.net>
>
> At 11:02 PM 12/4/2003 -0800, you wrote:
>>--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Larry Hackney"
>><lhackney@rglobal.net>
>>
>>Robert,
>>
>>I was at your seminar in Watsonville last month. I'd mentioned that I
>> had a Falcon turn coordinator and I'd read that they had a reputation
>> for producing radio noise. You said I should get some roof flashing
>> and wrap around it 2 or 3 times to control the noise.
>>
>>I'm just wondering if there's anything lighter, simpler that would
>> work? How about aluminum foil? Or some kind of duct insulation or
>> even sound proofing material?
>
> It isn't "sound proofing" your looking for. It's magnetic
> shielding. This requires a shell of material that will
> trap lines of magnetic force emanating from within the
> T/C. First, see if you have a noise problem. Then do
> the detective work to see if it's magnetic radiation or
> electrical conduction. Then craft an experiment for
> breaking the propagation mode that causes the
> noise problem.
>
> If you do need magnetic shielding, roof flashing is
> thin, easily worked and readily acquired. MuMetal is
> also thin, light and much more effective than soft
> steels . . . but it's a bear to work with and hard
> to acquire. But don't do anything until you know you
> need it and then use only those techniques that
> mitigate your particular problem.
>
> Bob . . .
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: NiMH batteries |
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: kempthornes <kempthornes@earthlink.net>
At 08:17 AM 12/5/2003 -0500, you wrote:
>--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Dennis O'Connor"
><doconnor@chartermi.net>
>
>The other option, is that when useage is sporadic, then alakline or lithium,
>non rechargeables may be the best choice... Their capacity exceeds that of
>rechargeables, their operational cost is far less, and when they are done
>you simply toss them and put in new ones...
I have some that are rechargeable alkaline. I have used them for a year or
two in various devices but never really measured them. Why do I see them
not mentioned at all?
K. H. (Hal) Kempthorne
RV6-a N7HK - Three trips to OSH now.
PRB (El Paso de Robles, CA)
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--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Larry Hackney" <lhackney@rglobal.net>
Thanks Bill,
I too have Garmin radios, guess I'll have to look a little closer at the
radio trays.
Little sidenote: I was at Radio Snack this morning and saw their biggest,
best cooling fan for computers. It was $18.99... Hmmm...
Larry
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bill Hibbing" <n744bh@bellsouth.net>
Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: Cooling fan
> --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Bill Hibbing"
<n744bh@bellsouth.net>
>
> Larry;
>
> On my Garmin GPS/comm the tray has a built in fitting for attaching a tube
> and feeding outside fresh air into the unit. If any of your avionics have
> something like this you can fabricate some tubing (vinyl, etc.) to get
cool
> air to your avionics for almost free. Don't know if this will work with
> your installation but it might be something to look into.
>
> Bill
> Glasair
>
> > Robert,
> >
> > Could you recommend a cheaper avionics cooling fan than the one's in the
> Spruce catalog? Prices range from $129 up to $272?
> >
> > Larry
> >
>
>
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--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Phil Collins" <philc1@ix.netcom.com>
There are differences among Garmin radios. When I was searching for
radios, I was told by several avionics shops that the traditional Garmin
line of products should have cooling air ducted to the radios to avoid
shortening the life of the radio, while the UPSAT line was engineered
for lower power consumption and did not require additional cooling. Now
that UPSAT has been acquired by Garmin, we should be clear that not all
Garmins have similar requirements.
Phil
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Larry
Hackney
Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: Cooling fan
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Larry Hackney"
<lhackney@rglobal.net>
Thanks Bill,
I too have Garmin radios, guess I'll have to look a little closer at the
radio trays.
Little sidenote: I was at Radio Snack this morning and saw their
biggest,
best cooling fan for computers. It was $18.99... Hmmm...
Larry
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bill Hibbing" <n744bh@bellsouth.net>
Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: Cooling fan
> --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Bill Hibbing"
<n744bh@bellsouth.net>
>
> Larry;
>
> On my Garmin GPS/comm the tray has a built in fitting for attaching a
tube
> and feeding outside fresh air into the unit. If any of your avionics
have
> something like this you can fabricate some tubing (vinyl, etc.) to get
cool
> air to your avionics for almost free. Don't know if this will work
with
> your installation but it might be something to look into.
>
> Bill
> Glasair
>
> > Robert,
> >
> > Could you recommend a cheaper avionics cooling fan than the one's in
the
> Spruce catalog? Prices range from $129 up to $272?
> >
> > Larry
> >
>
>
=
==
==
==
==
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--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Terry Watson" <terry@tcwatson.com>
Larry,
I know I didn't come up with this idea but it made sense to me so I bought a
computer cooling fan to do it. I intend to install the cooling fan under an
opening in the top skin of my RV-8A, behind the windscreen and over the
avionics. The label on the switch that turns it on and off will say
"Defrost".
Hope it works!
Terry
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Larry
Hackney
Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: Cooling fan
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Larry Hackney"
<lhackney@rglobal.net>
Thanks Bill,
I too have Garmin radios, guess I'll have to look a little closer at the
radio trays.
Little sidenote: I was at Radio Snack this morning and saw their biggest,
best cooling fan for computers. It was $18.99... Hmmm...
Larry
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--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: flmike <flmike2001@yahoo.com>
You might consider one of these if you don't mind
making up some sort of mount and/or tubing adapter:
http://www.allelectronics.com/cgi-bin/category.cgi?category=220300&item=CF-150&type=store
Also, for those of you looking for EL strip lighting,
I bought a couple of these and other than the adhesive
maybe being a bit wanting, they seem to work fine.
Unfortunately, my son stole mine for use on his Jeep
as an under dash flood light, so I don't know if there
are any aircraft application issues. Works great on a
Jeep though... Guess I'll have to order some more.
http://www.directron.com/bluelightstrip.html
At $10 a pop for 5' with the inverter, it's worth a
shot. (Just don't show it to your kids. If you plan
to, order some extras.)
For fun, check out all the other wacky stuff they sell
for PC case modifications, lights, water cooling kits,
etc. The LM317 based fan speed controllers look an
awful lot like a multi channel panel light
dimmer...hmmm.
Mike
RV-6A
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--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Jon Finley" <jon@finleyweb.net>
Hi Larry,
Not sure exactly which fan you were looking at but I have generally
found CompUSA type stores to have big computer fans for around $8-$12.
Jon Finley
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From: owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Larry
Hackney
Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: Cooling fan
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Larry Hackney"
<lhackney@rglobal.net>
Thanks Bill,
I too have Garmin radios, guess I'll have to look a little closer at the
radio trays.
Little sidenote: I was at Radio Snack this morning and saw their
biggest,
best cooling fan for computers. It was $18.99... Hmmm...
Larry
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--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "David.vonLinsowe" <David.vonLinsowe@delphi.com>
Thank you Bob!
Dave
From: "Robert L. Nuckolls, III" <bob.nuckolls@cox.net>
Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: NiMH batteries
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Robert L. Nuckolls, III" <bob.nuckolls@cox.net>
At 07:16 PM 12/4/2003 -0500, you wrote:
>--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "David.vonLinsowe"
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>
>
>A little off aircraft electronics, but while on the topic of NiMH
>batteries, where would you find the best rechargeable AA pencell type
>NiMH batteries? The ones in the camera stores don't list a mah rating.
>
>I'm heading over to the Wright reenactment and I don't want to worry
>about missing something because of the batteries in my digital camera.
Check out
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=45096&item=3062108120
I've got 32 of these cells coming in for specific job. I'll be running
some capacity tests on them. If they're even close to 2200 maH, these
are a deal.
Bob . . .
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| Subject: | Remember when we used batteries? |
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Ronald Cox" <racox@ix.netcom.com>
Neat idea.
I suspect someone else will have said it by the time I got around to reading
this, but I'll be amazed if FAA allows the use of this device any time soon
on an airliner. And that, I'd think, would be one of the primary markets
for long-duration portable use.
These are the same folks who still act like a cell phone (even though it
doesn't work worth a damn airborne) will make my Boeing snap roll and die.
Now an Airbus, well ... <g>
Ron
> Time: 08:45:41 PM PST US
> From: "Robert L. Nuckolls, III" <bob.nuckolls@cox.net>
> Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: Remember when we used batteries?
>
> --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Robert L. Nuckolls, III"
<bob.nuckolls@cox.net>
>
> At 08:21 PM 11/10/2003 -0500, you wrote:
> >--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Eric M. Jones"
<emjones@charter.net>
> >
> >Here's the very near term future in fuel cell power.
> >
> >http://www.toshiba.co.jp/about/press/2003_03/pr0501.htm
>
> I saw some butane fueled prototypes a couple of years
> ago. You could "fuel" then with the butane lighter
> cans available from most hardware stores. Don't know
> if that product has made it to the marketplace yet or
> not.
>
> Bob . . .
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--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Charlie & Tupper England <cengland@netdoor.com>
Bill Hibbing wrote:
>--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Bill Hibbing" <n744bh@bellsouth.net>
>
>Larry;
>
>On my Garmin GPS/comm the tray has a built in fitting for attaching a tube
>and feeding outside fresh air into the unit. If any of your avionics have
>something like this you can fabricate some tubing (vinyl, etc.) to get cool
>air to your avionics for almost free. Don't know if this will work with
>your installation but it might be something to look into.
>
>Bill
>Glasair
>
If the fitting actually feeds into the unit & not to an external heat
sink, you might want to rethink plumbing it to outside air. Even if you
never fly in the rain, overnight condensation collecting in the tube can
get blown into the circuitry.
Charlie
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--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Bruce Gray" <Bruce@glasair.org>
One day, when I had nothing else to do, the urge to remove the top cover
from my Garmin 530 just overwhelmed me. Anyway, the air inlet led from
back to front, the passage was filled with heat sinks. The heat sinks
and passage were completely sealed off from the electronics of the unit.
I don't think moist air would hurt it. YMMV
Bruce
www.glasair.org
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From: owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
Charlie & Tupper England
Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: Cooling fan
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Charlie & Tupper England
<cengland@netdoor.com>
Bill Hibbing wrote:
>--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Bill Hibbing"
<n744bh@bellsouth.net>
>
>Larry;
>
>On my Garmin GPS/comm the tray has a built in fitting for attaching a
tube
>and feeding outside fresh air into the unit. If any of your avionics
have
>something like this you can fabricate some tubing (vinyl, etc.) to get
cool
>air to your avionics for almost free. Don't know if this will work
with
>your installation but it might be something to look into.
>
>Bill
>Glasair
>
If the fitting actually feeds into the unit & not to an external heat
sink, you might want to rethink plumbing it to outside air. Even if you
never fly in the rain, overnight condensation collecting in the tube can
get blown into the circuitry.
Charlie
=
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--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Charlie & Tupper England <cengland@netdoor.com>
Effectively an external heat sink. Thanks for the info.
Charlie
Bruce Gray wrote:
>--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Bruce Gray" <Bruce@glasair.org>
>
>One day, when I had nothing else to do, the urge to remove the top cover
>from my Garmin 530 just overwhelmed me. Anyway, the air inlet led from
>back to front, the passage was filled with heat sinks. The heat sinks
>and passage were completely sealed off from the electronics of the unit.
>I don't think moist air would hurt it. YMMV
>
>Bruce
>www.glasair.org
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com
>[mailto:owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
>Charlie & Tupper England
>To: aeroelectric-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: Cooling fan
>
>
>--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Charlie & Tupper England
><cengland@netdoor.com>
>
>Bill Hibbing wrote:
>
>
>
>>--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Bill Hibbing"
>>
>>
><n744bh@bellsouth.net>
>
>
>>Larry;
>>
>>On my Garmin GPS/comm the tray has a built in fitting for attaching a
>>
>>
>tube
>
>
>>and feeding outside fresh air into the unit. If any of your avionics
>>
>>
>have
>
>
>>something like this you can fabricate some tubing (vinyl, etc.) to get
>>
>>
>cool
>
>
>>air to your avionics for almost free. Don't know if this will work
>>
>>
>with
>
>
>>your installation but it might be something to look into.
>>
>>Bill
>>Glasair
>>
>>
>>
>If the fitting actually feeds into the unit & not to an external heat
>sink, you might want to rethink plumbing it to outside air. Even if you
>never fly in the rain, overnight condensation collecting in the tube can
>
>get blown into the circuitry.
>
>Charlie
>
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| Subject: | Reusing batteries |
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Fergus Kyle" <VE3LVO@rac.ca>
" The most life any one battery would see would be three years (one in the
plane and two in the car)."
I don't think so.
Ferg
Europa A064
do not archive
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| Subject: | Pitch Trim Motor Slowdown |
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "J. Oberst" <joberst@cox-internet.com>
I previously posted a question on how to cut down the speed of my 12V DC
pitch trim motor. I got one response, which suggested I use the the
Matronics Mark III adjustable speed governor. I have two issues with
this... first, it is unclear to me what the current capacity of this unit is
(does anyone know that? - I am not using MAC servos)... second, it looks
like a bit of overkill, as I don't want adjustable speed, ground-actuation,
multiple switches - just a permanent slowdown to one speed.
Can anyone explain to me what the design goal is for a DC motor slowdown
circuit? I've been told that a simple dropping resistor could cause the
motor to overheat. Also, I don't want to do something to reduce the torque.
Will a fixed voltage regulator do it, or does it need to be pulsed, or??
Thanks.
Jim Oberst
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| Subject: | Audio out to vieo camera |
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Fergus Kyle" <VE3LVO@rac.ca>
"This is going to both the Aeroelectric and RV-lists, in hopes of increasing
probability of someone being able to help with this issue.
I want to put cockpit audio into my video camera when doing test flying to
get pictures of instruments & audio comments I make - should greatly reduce
"head down in cockpit" time taking notes and greatly increase amount of
instrument reading data collected."
I did this fore selected flights but just stuck the recorder mike into one
earphone and taped the wires for neatness. Adjusted input and it worked
fine.
Took ten minutes.
Ferg Europa A064
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| Subject: | To E-Buss or not To E-buss |
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Don Boardman <dboardm3@twcny.rr.com>
Hi Bob and list,
We are installing the All Electric Airplane on a Budget using Z-13.
We have a 50 amp main alt. and the SD-8 on the vac. pad.
My thoughts are about the elimination of the E-buss.
If we loose the main alternator we would bring the SD-8 on line and simply
turn off non-essential items bringing the total load on the system to 8 amps
or less.
In reviewing the loads on the system we come up with only a few that are not
controlled by a switch. Clock and CD player keep alive and engine
instruments. Clock and CD use less than a mA and will be on the always hot
buss. That leaves the engine instruments as the only other loads not
controlled by a switch. Instrument loads total .94 amps and if we add the
battery contactor at 1 amp this results in a 2 amp load that we would not
have control over. Leaving the question, is 6 amps enough to run the items
we will need for a safe completion of the flight. If the answer is yes, then
why not simply leave the load reduction to the pilot who would switch off
the non essential items and illiminate the E-buss. This gives the pilot the
option of turning on an item that might have been relligated to the main
buss but could be useful for a short period of time and then turned off
again.
It looks like the items we would place on our E-buss run between 5-6 amps.
So the loss of the 2 amps (instruments and contactor) buy simply staying
with the main bus and turning off items to reduce load would seem to make
sense.
So in the event we lost the main alt. ...we would... move the Master to Bat,
move the Aux Alt to on, turn off all unnecissary loads. At the airport,
battery still up, put the gear down and land.
Am I missing something?
Bob your critic of my thinking would be appreciated.
Regards,
Don Boardman
& Partner, Randy Bowers
Super Moose #130 M-14PF 400HP, MT-prop/beta, Aerocet 3500 amphibs, Rome, NY
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| Subject: | Engine Controls & Grounding |
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Don Boardman <dboardm3@twcny.rr.com>
Hi Bob and list.
Bob in your book under note 5 you write: "make sure that jackets for engine
controls do not ELECTRICALLY ground both a metal panel and the engine ...
they can easily become a SECOND ground path on the wrong side of the
airplane and create the same problems we're striving to eliminate.
This was for airplanes with battery and engine on opposite ends of the
airplane. I have the conventional engine on front, firewall, panel, battery
under the passenger seat. Do I need to worry about insulating my throttle
and prop controls from the metal panel?
I will also have several other (8 ) push pulls on the panel operating in the
engine compartment. Though none will be connected directly to the engine.
(9 cyl radial M-14). Any concerns?
Another point. In the engine compartment we are using all stainless steel
braided hoses. Several of which run from the metal firewall bulkhead fitting
to the engine. Any concerns?
I am planning on having all electrical equipment grounds run to a instrument
panel ground bus located on the firewall as per your book.
Regards,
Don Boardman
& Partner, Randy Bowers
Super Moose #130 M-14PF 400HP, MT-prop/beta, Aerocet 3500 amphibs, Rome, NY
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| Subject: | Apollo stuff - last chance |
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Richard@Riley.net
My account with Apollo absolutely, positively closes Christmas day. Last
chance. About 3k off a CNX 80, $900 off an SL30.
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