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1. 01:41 AM - Re: Visio Symbols (Werner Schneider)
2. 06:26 AM - Slow starter redux (Fiveonepw@aol.com)
3. 06:54 AM - New Battery (Fiveonepw@aol.com)
4. 07:38 AM - Re: Visio Symbols (Jon Finley)
5. 07:53 AM - Re: Visio Symbols (Larry Bowen)
6. 08:15 AM - Re: King radio connectors (Hi There)
7. 08:50 AM - Re: King radio connectors (Neal A. Dillman)
8. 09:33 AM - Magnaflite Starter MZ-62 series (Jim Stone)
9. 09:51 AM - Re: King radio connectors (HCRV6@aol.com)
10. 10:13 AM - Re: King radio connectors (Hi There)
11. 10:24 AM - Re: Visio Symbols (Richard E. Tasker)
12. 10:41 AM - LR3C-14 low volts warning light (Matt Jurotich)
13. 12:16 PM - Re: King radio connectors (James Redmon)
14. 12:20 PM - Re: King radio connectors (Neal A. Dillman)
15. 12:32 PM - Re: King radio connectors (James Redmon)
16. 12:51 PM - Pondering changing from Z-13 to Z-12 (Scott Diffenbaugh)
17. 03:49 PM - Re: Visio Symbols (Chad Robinson)
18. 05:33 PM - Re: King radio connectors (HCRV6@aol.com)
19. 05:39 PM - Muse and Gold Mine (Troy Scott)
20. 06:08 PM - Avionics Master Switch (Dfsund@aol.com)
21. 06:09 PM - Re: LR3C-14 low volts warning light (Phil Collins)
22. 06:41 PM - Re: LR3C-14 low volts warning light - apology (Phil Collins)
23. 07:58 PM - Re: Visio Symbols (Steve Richard)
24. 09:11 PM - Sky-Tec starter (Troy Scott)
25. 09:26 PM - Re: Visio Symbols (Steve Richard)
26. 09:37 PM - Re: Visio Symbols (Robert Dufresne)
27. 09:41 PM - Re: Visio Symbols (Robert McCallum)
28. 09:49 PM - "mother of all electric systems" or just add SD-8 (Troy Scott)
29. 10:11 PM - IBMM (Troy Scott)
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Subject: | Re: Visio Symbols |
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Werner Schneider" <wernerschneider@compuserve.com>
Hi Chad,
I'm running Visio 2002 SR1 and the symbols do not work for me. How did you
create them?
Do you know, Visio 2002 at least has the explode function, with this I can
convert the CAD drawing into a Visio drawing (hovever tripling the size). I
think you could somehow import with this functionality however you need to
create then the handles manualy.
Let me know if you need more help.
For all others, copy the vss file into Program Files\Microsoft Office\Visio
10\1033\solutions or wherever your visio is installed and then under
file->stencils->open stencil you will find it.
Kind regards
Werner
----- Original Message -----
From: "Chad Robinson" <crobinson@rfgonline.com>
Subject: AeroElectric-List: Visio Symbols
> --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Chad Robinson
<crobinson@rfgonline.com>
>
> Hello all,
>
> I have been working on a Visio symbol stencil set based on Bob's CAD
symbols -
> Bob, I hope you don't mind. I'm doing 5-10 a day as time permits, so this
> first copy is just a test set to be sure it works, but I'd appreciate it
if a
> few people would download the file and check it out. Visio 2000 or higher
is
> required.
>
> If this works out I'll incorporate most of the major symbols this weekend,
> then do the rest a few at a time as time permits. Check back periodically
for
> updates.
>
> http://www.lucubration.com/aero/
>
> Regards,
> Chad
>
>
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Subject: | Slow starter redux |
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Fiveonepw@aol.com
Thanks to all for the input- Some more data: Battery is about 1.5 years old,
most of time on a shelf, but used for system checkout and occasionally
charged with smart charger. Contactors are on firewall with shortest possible
(mere
inches) of #4 welding cable connecting batt & contactors. Approx. 3' of #2
weld cable to direct-drive (no gearing) Delco-Remy boat anchor. Ground is #2
weld cable bolted to crankcase at base of dipstick tube, then to Bob's ground
lug on firewall next to battery. All fat lugs are crimped and soldered.
Most have mentioned high resistance connections but all check OK. Might just
"borrow" the Biddle meter from work and ring it out anyway. (Biddle meter is
an instrument used to accurately measure resistance in micro-ohms- we use it
to measure resistance spotweld gun secondaries- neat tool!)
Others cite that a healthy battery and motor work well, so plan is to
purchase fresh battery from DigiKey and go from there. Bob has warned us to get
a
fresh one for flying anyway!
Also talked to Dick Waters (Air-Tec) about his Lexus starter, but he is
unsure if it will fit the cowling on a -6 (his earlier models would not he says).
He is investigating and may send one anyway for a trial-fit.
Thanks again to all and especially to Bob- many of you know what a thrill it
is to start bringing your project to life and everything (mostly!) actually
WORKS!!
From The PossumWorks in TN
Mark - getting close............
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--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Fiveonepw@aol.com
Howdy again-
Battery shopping in new DigiKey catalog I just got and saw new 20 Ah
Panasonic with exact same case dimensions as the 17Ah model. Pulled up the data
sheets and it appears the only difference is case material (thinner) at a slightly
higher weight.
New batt:
http://www.panasonic.com/industrial/battery/oem/images/pdf/Panasonic_VRLA_LC-X1220P_LC_X1220AP.pdf
Old batt:
http://www.panasonic.com/industrial/battery/oem/images/pdf/Panasonic_VRLA_LC-RD1217P.pdf
Ordering the new one today- will let y'all know if it cures the problem-
Mark
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--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Jon Finley" <jon@finleyweb.net>
Hi Chad,
Sorry to report that the symbols don't work too well for me. I've
opened them as a stencil. When I pull them onto a page the left side is
cut off (they are also VERY large).
Keep trying, this is good stuff!
Jon
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com] On
> Behalf Of Chad Robinson
> Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2004 12:56 AM
> To: aeroelectric-list@matronics.com
> Subject: AeroElectric-List: Visio Symbols
>
>
> --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Chad Robinson
> --> <crobinson@rfgonline.com>
>
> Hello all,
>
> I have been working on a Visio symbol stencil set based on
> Bob's CAD symbols -
> Bob, I hope you don't mind. I'm doing 5-10 a day as time
> permits, so this
> first copy is just a test set to be sure it works, but I'd
> appreciate it if a
> few people would download the file and check it out. Visio
> 2000 or higher is
> required.
>
> If this works out I'll incorporate most of the major symbols
> this weekend,
> then do the rest a few at a time as time permits. Check back
> periodically for
> updates.
>
> http://www.lucubration.com/aero/
>
> Regards,
> Chad
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--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Larry Bowen" <Larry@BowenAero.com>
Very timely. Just last night, I LOST a lot of work I had done in visio.
Apparently, if visio doesn't shut down gracefully it can corrupt it's
data files, giving you the error "Visio cannot open the file because
it's not a Visio file. " You can prevent this by downloading a visio
patch here:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;278261.
Your symbols worked great. They are different sizes, but otherwise
great. Thanks.
-
Larry Bowen
Larry@BowenAero.com
http://BowenAero.com
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Chad Robinson [mailto:crobinson@rfgonline.com]
> Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2004 1:56 AM
> To: aeroelectric-list@matronics.com
> Subject: AeroElectric-List: Visio Symbols
>
>
> --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Chad Robinson
> --> <crobinson@rfgonline.com>
>
> Hello all,
>
> I have been working on a Visio symbol stencil set based on
> Bob's CAD symbols -
> Bob, I hope you don't mind. I'm doing 5-10 a day as time
> permits, so this
> first copy is just a test set to be sure it works, but I'd
> appreciate it if a
> few people would download the file and check it out. Visio
> 2000 or higher is
> required.
>
> If this works out I'll incorporate most of the major symbols
> this weekend,
> then do the rest a few at a time as time permits. Check back
> periodically for
> updates.
>
http://www.lucubration.com/aero/
Regards,
Chad
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Subject: | Re: King radio connectors |
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Hi There <rv90619@yahoo.com>
KX-125, sorry, thought all Kings where the same.
Cam
"Neal A. Dillman" <neald@glyph.com> wrote:
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Neal A. Dillman"
Cam,
You will need to be more specific. Which King radio?
-Neal-
Hi There wrote:
>--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Hi There
>
>Where can I find the connectors for the back of a King radio. I bought a used
radio and want to rewire it.
>
>Thanks
>Cam
>
>
>---------------------------------
>
>
>
>
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Subject: | Re: King radio connectors |
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Neal A. Dillman" <neald@glyph.com>
Nope, All Kings are different. Check out:
http://www.aeroelectric.com/Installation_Data/KX125.pdf
-Neal-
Hi There wrote:
>--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Hi There <rv90619@yahoo.com>
>
>KX-125, sorry, thought all Kings where the same.
>
>Cam
>
>
>"Neal A. Dillman" <neald@glyph.com> wrote:
>--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Neal A. Dillman"
>
>Cam,
>
>You will need to be more specific. Which King radio?
>
>-Neal-
>
>Hi There wrote:
>
>
>
>>--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Hi There
>>
>>Where can I find the connectors for the back of a King radio. I bought a used
radio and want to rewire it.
>>
>>Thanks
>>Cam
>>
>>
>>---------------------------------
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>---------------------------------
>
>
>
>
hn
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Subject: | Magnaflite Starter MZ-62 series |
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Jim Stone" <jrstone@insightbb.com>
Builders,
I've got my eye on the Magnaflite MZ-6222 starter and would like to hear
of any experience in the field with this unit. It is probably the
lightest on the market and priced very competitively.
Thanks,
Jim
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Subject: | Re: King radio connectors |
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: HCRV6@aol.com
In a message dated 1/2/04 6:20:13 PM Pacific Standard Time, rv90619@yahoo.com
writes:
<< Where can I find the connectors for the back of a King radio. I bought a
used radio and want to rewire it.
>>
Try Allied Signal/Honeywell Product support at 1-800-257-0726 or
913-712-1400.
Harry Crosby
Pleasanton, California
RV-6, firewall forward
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Subject: | Re: King radio connectors |
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Hi There <rv90619@yahoo.com>
I have the wiring diagram, it's the actual little connector that I need. The part
that you crimp onto the end of each wire then put in the back of the rack.
Thanks
Cam
"Neal A. Dillman" <neald@glyph.com> wrote:
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Neal A. Dillman"
Nope, All Kings are different. Check out:
http://www.aeroelectric.com/Installation_Data/KX125.pdf
-Neal-
Hi There wrote:
>--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Hi There
>
>KX-125, sorry, thought all Kings where the same.
>
>Cam
>
>
>"Neal A. Dillman" wrote:
>--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Neal A. Dillman"
>
>Cam,
>
>You will need to be more specific. Which King radio?
>
>-Neal-
>
>Hi There wrote:
>
>
>
>>--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Hi There
>>
>>Where can I find the connectors for the back of a King radio. I bought a used
radio and want to rewire it.
>>
>>Thanks
>>Cam
>>
>>
>>---------------------------------
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>---------------------------------
>
>
>
>
hn
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Subject: | Re: Visio Symbols |
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Richard E. Tasker" <retasker@optonline.net>
Is there any reason you could not post a version of this file saved in
an earlier version of Visio? I have Visio Technical 4 and can save
visio files in version 2, 3 and 4. Or did Microsoft, in its fine
monopolistic way remove the capability to save in previous version's
file formats?
Dick Tasker, RV9A #90573
Chad Robinson wrote:
>--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Chad Robinson <crobinson@rfgonline.com>
>
>Hello all,
>
>I have been working on a Visio symbol stencil set based on Bob's CAD symbols -
>Bob, I hope you don't mind. I'm doing 5-10 a day as time permits, so this
>first copy is just a test set to be sure it works, but I'd appreciate it if a
>few people would download the file and check it out. Visio 2000 or higher is
>required.
>
>If this works out I'll incorporate most of the major symbols this weekend,
>then do the rest a few at a time as time permits. Check back periodically for
>updates.
>
>http://www.lucubration.com/aero/
>
>Regards,
>Chad
>
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Subject: | LR3C-14 low volts warning light |
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Matt Jurotich <mjurotich@hst.nasa.gov>
My LR3C-14 seems to working fine since it delivers 14.2 to 14.4 volts with
the engine running and when I connect an external test light between 14
volt buss and terminal 5 I get a blinking light. I assume that little low
voltage warning light bulb is burned out. How do I get the bulb out of the
holder? Access form the back of the panel is impossible without removing
the panel from the plane and that is not scheduled till mid Feb.
Matthew M. Jurotich
NASA/Goddard Space Flight Center
JWST ISIM Systems Engineer
m/c : 443
e-mail mailto: mjurotich@hst.nasa.gov
phone : 301-286-5919
fax : 301-286-7021
JWST URL: <http://ngst1.gsfc.nasa.gov>
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Subject: | Re: King radio connectors |
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "James Redmon" <james@berkut13.com>
No problem - don't mess with the manufacturers...they want $5 a pin, and
$100 for a connector - total BS!!! Those avionics guys are smokin something
and they ain't sharing! ;-)
Checkout this page on my web site - it has the data you need.
You can get the pin extractor, the pins, AND the connector for less than $5.
You will still need to get a mounting tray if you don't already have one.
Enjoy,
James Redmon
Berkut #013 N97TX
www.berkut13.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Hi There" <rv90619@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: King radio connectors
> --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Hi There <rv90619@yahoo.com>
>
> I have the wiring diagram, it's the actual little connector that I need.
The part that you crimp onto the end of each wire then put in the back of
the rack.
>
> Thanks
> Cam
>
> "Neal A. Dillman" <neald@glyph.com> wrote:
> --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Neal A. Dillman"
>
> Nope, All Kings are different. Check out:
>
> http://www.aeroelectric.com/Installation_Data/KX125.pdf
>
>
> -Neal-
>
> Hi There wrote:
>
> >--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Hi There
> >
> >KX-125, sorry, thought all Kings where the same.
> >
> >Cam
> >
> >
> >"Neal A. Dillman" wrote:
> >--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Neal A. Dillman"
> >
> >Cam,
> >
> >You will need to be more specific. Which King radio?
> >
> >-Neal-
> >
> >Hi There wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >>--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Hi There
> >>
> >>Where can I find the connectors for the back of a King radio. I bought a
used radio and want to rewire it.
> >>
> >>Thanks
> >>Cam
> >>
> >>
> >>---------------------------------
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >---------------------------------
> >
> >
> >
> >
> hn
>
>
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Subject: | Re: King radio connectors |
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Neal A. Dillman" <neald@glyph.com>
Cam,
OK. I think I understand what you want (let me make sure). You want
the pins for the molex connectors on the back of the unit.
(or do you want the connectors themselves??)
Either way, I think the other gentleman was correct. You could either
check with Honeywell or your local avionics shop. It is unlikely that
any local electronics shop would have either the connectors or the pins.
Best of luck.
Regards,
Neal
Hi There wrote:
>--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Hi There <rv90619@yahoo.com>
>
>I have the wiring diagram, it's the actual little connector that I need. The
part that you crimp onto the end of each wire then put in the back of the rack.
>
>Thanks
>Cam
>
>"Neal A. Dillman" <neald@glyph.com> wrote:
>--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Neal A. Dillman"
>
>Nope, All Kings are different. Check out:
>
>http://www.aeroelectric.com/Installation_Data/KX125.pdf
>
>
>-Neal-
>
>Hi There wrote:
>
>
>
>>--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Hi There
>>
>>KX-125, sorry, thought all Kings where the same.
>>
>>Cam
>>
>>
>>"Neal A. Dillman" wrote:
>>--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Neal A. Dillman"
>>
>>Cam,
>>
>>You will need to be more specific. Which King radio?
>>
>>-Neal-
>>
>>Hi There wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Hi There
>>>
>>>Where can I find the connectors for the back of a King radio. I bought a used
radio and want to rewire it.
>>>
>>>Thanks
>>>Cam
>>>
>>>
>>>---------------------------------
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>---------------------------------
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>hn
>
>
>---------------------------------
>
>
>
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Subject: | Re: King radio connectors |
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "James Redmon" <james@berkut13.com>
> Checkout this page on my web site - it has the data you need.
I hate it when I forget to paste the URL....sorry.
http://www.berkut13.com/extractor.htm
James Redmon
Berkut #013 N97TX
www.berkut13.com
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Subject: | Pondering changing from Z-13 to Z-12 |
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Scott Diffenbaugh" <diff@foothill.net>
Bob,
>On Z-12, you responded to a previous post that if the bat contactor fails,
>the E bus will be operating off of battery only. Can I hook the SD20's B
>lead to the battery side of the contactor and it's field to the bat bus?
That's a long, always hot feed wire. Not sanitary but then, it's
YOUR OBAM airplane.
For my continued education, can you elaborate on why it's not sanitary?
The 10AWG B lead would be about 12" long with a 20A ANL current limiter at
the contactor. If the B lead wire or SD-20 shorts, wouldn't the current
limiter open, saving the battery, just like the fusible link between the
contactor and SD-8 on Z-13 (while in backup mode)? Or might there be
leakage through the backup devices, draining the battery after shutdown?
>Would this give me the best of all worlds, ie with contactor closed, retain
>autoswitching and all busses? With contactor open, keep the battery
charged
>while operating on the E bus, ie somewhat the same idea as Z-13? If this
is
>ok, what would be a reasonable design load for the E bus?
Contactor failure is rare. Probability of contactor failure during
instances where high endurance bus loads are necessary are even
more rare. If that's a major concern for you, I'd consider Z-12, dual
battery contactors, with SD-20+FAT altenrator and eliminate the
e-bus entirely. With 20A of standby power, there's no probability
of wanting to operate battery-only and the value of a dual-feed
e-bus is diminished.
This has a nice ring to it! Looks like it eliminates my contactor failure
concerns, my always hot B lead issue above, provides dual feed to the bus,
retains autoswitching, eliminates the extra complexity of the E bus, gives
the pilot choices in what devices to unload during backup (until overload
light stops flashing, right?). There has to be a catch????---besides $ &
weight.
If I go with dual contactors, & eliminate the E-bus, what failure modes (if
any) might I encounter during flight which would require me to open both
contactors?
Would the contactors be wired in parallel, ie one simply backs up the other
by jumping the fat wire terminals and replacing the existing 1-3 AUX
alternator switch with another 2-3 master switch?
This may sound like overkill, but any merit to using 3 position master
switches like on Z-13 and reset only field breakers? Or stick with 2
position switches and pull breakers? (I guess I am asking if with dual
contactors, there may be a need to open either field without opening its
contactor?)
PS: To help me with my decision whether to go with the SD20, do you
estimate weeks of months before you have some test results & direction on
the SD-8 voltage regulator concerns?
Thank you! Scott RV7A
Scott Diffenbaugh
diff@foothill.net
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Subject: | Re: Visio Symbols |
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Chad Robinson <crobinson@rfgonline.com>
Dick Tasker wrote:
> Is there any reason you could not post a version of this file saved in
> an earlier version of Visio? I have Visio Technical 4 and can save
> visio files in version 2, 3 and 4. Or did Microsoft, in its fine
> monopolistic way remove the capability to save in previous version's
> file formats?
Sorry folks, I only have Visio 2000, and there does not appear to be any
option to control the version of the files. I'll keep looking. Meanwhile,
expect another release in a day or two that fixes the other comments you've
all sent, and thanks for the feedback.
I'll make announcements to this list as the file is updated. Bob, any chance
you could drop me a line if you post any new ones?
Regards,
Chad
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Subject: | Re: King radio connectors |
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: HCRV6@aol.com
In a message dated 1/3/04 10:14:24 AM Pacific Standard Time,
rv90619@yahoo.com writes:
<< I have the wiring diagram, it's the actual little connector that I need.
The part that you crimp onto the end of each wire then put in the back of the
rack.>>
Ok, it now sounds like what you are looking for are the pins, not the
connector body. I have a few extra left over from my KX-125 install, how many
do you
need?
Do not archive
Harry Crosby
Pleasanton, California
RV-6, firewall forward
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Subject: | Muse and Gold Mine |
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Troy Scott" <tscott1217@bellsouth.net>
Charles Brame,
The PS Engineering MUSE will do exactly what you want.
Regards,
Troy Scott
tscott1217@bellsouth.net
All, Especially Bob Nuckells:
I've spent most of the last several days finishing THE BOOK and printing
nuggets from the AeroElectric discussion list archives. What a GOLD MINE!!
Thanks, everybody!
Troy
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Subject: | Avionics Master Switch |
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Dfsund@aol.com
Bob,
I've been wiring my RV-7 per Z-11 and for convenience would like to add an
Avionics Master Switch. I've read your article reguarding their necessity (or
lack thereof) which included a schematic showing the switch wired between the
Main Power Bus and the E-Buss (after the diode). I also read on page 11-3 of the
Connection, "The avionics master switch controls e-bus connection to main
bus, selects an emergency mode e-bus feed directly from battery and also disables
the starter circuits if the switch is not positioned to shut off the
avionics". This sounds like you're combining the functions of the avionics master,
e-bus alternate feed and bat/alt master switch into one switch. Is this
correct? Could you direct me to a schematic showing this switch set up or explain
it
with switch type, etc. so an electrically challenged person (like me) can
understand? Thanks for the help...............
Dave
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Subject: | LR3C-14 low volts warning light |
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Phil Collins" <philc1@ix.netcom.com>
1. Grasp yellow bulb between thumb and forefingers...
2. Rotate counter-clockwise until bulb is free of receptacle
3. Install new bulb with clockwise rotation
How many NASA Scientists does it take to change a light bulb? :)
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Matt
Jurotich
Subject: AeroElectric-List: LR3C-14 low volts warning light
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Matt Jurotich
<mjurotich@hst.nasa.gov>
My LR3C-14 seems to working fine since it delivers 14.2 to 14.4 volts
with
the engine running and when I connect an external test light between 14
volt buss and terminal 5 I get a blinking light. I assume that little
low
voltage warning light bulb is burned out. How do I get the bulb out of
the
holder? Access form the back of the panel is impossible without
removing
the panel from the plane and that is not scheduled till mid Feb.
Matthew M. Jurotich
NASA/Goddard Space Flight Center
JWST ISIM Systems Engineer
m/c : 443
e-mail mailto: mjurotich@hst.nasa.gov
phone : 301-286-5919
fax : 301-286-7021
JWST URL: <http://ngst1.gsfc.nasa.gov>
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Subject: | LR3C-14 low volts warning light - apology |
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Phil Collins" <philc1@ix.netcom.com>
I need to apologize publicly for that last comment. It was out of line
and I regretted it as soon as I clicked send. This board is about
offering useful assistance. I have been helped many times by the wealth
of knowledge offered by fellow listers.
In that light that a couple of additional suggestions. Can you test the
bulb without removing it by judicious application of power/ground at the
regulator? It could be a broken connection at the holder.
If you do remove the bulb use caution not to allow the holder to rotate
in its hole. The connections to the holder are likely to be 22 gauge
soldered connections not happy with a lot of strain.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Matt
Jurotich
Subject: AeroElectric-List: LR3C-14 low volts warning light
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Matt Jurotich
<mjurotich@hst.nasa.gov>
My LR3C-14 seems to working fine since it delivers 14.2 to 14.4 volts
with
the engine running and when I connect an external test light between 14
volt buss and terminal 5 I get a blinking light. I assume that little
low
voltage warning light bulb is burned out. How do I get the bulb out of
the
holder? Access form the back of the panel is impossible without
removing
the panel from the plane and that is not scheduled till mid Feb.
Matthew M. Jurotich
NASA/Goddard Space Flight Center
JWST ISIM Systems Engineer
m/c : 443
e-mail mailto: mjurotich@hst.nasa.gov
phone : 301-286-5919
fax : 301-286-7021
JWST URL: <http://ngst1.gsfc.nasa.gov>
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--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Steve Richard" <steve@oasissolutions.com>
Does this file help anyone?
Steve Richard
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Chad
Robinson
Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: Visio Symbols
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Chad Robinson
<crobinson@rfgonline.com>
Dick Tasker wrote:
> Is there any reason you could not post a version of this file saved in
> an earlier version of Visio? I have Visio Technical 4 and can save
> visio files in version 2, 3 and 4. Or did Microsoft, in its fine
> monopolistic way remove the capability to save in previous version's
> file formats?
Sorry folks, I only have Visio 2000, and there does not appear to be any
option to control the version of the files. I'll keep looking. Meanwhile,
expect another release in a day or two that fixes the other comments you've
all sent, and thanks for the feedback.
I'll make announcements to this list as the file is updated. Bob, any chance
you could drop me a line if you post any new ones?
Regards,
Chad
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--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Troy Scott" <tscott1217@bellsouth.net>
Bob Nuckells,
you wrote: "If getting the best starter wasn't an option for me, then adding
the run-on eliminator would be a good idea."
OK. When I bought the DemarsAero IO360B1E (several years ago), Demars
suggested the Sky-Tec starter for it's lightness. At the time I knew
NOTHING about starters except that they are expensive and they sometimes
break. I've spent most of the last several days studying your book and the
AeroElectric discussion group archives. I've read several of your posts in
which you discuss the run-on problem of the PM starters and the high inrush
current, which could even drop the system voltage to the point that the EI
wouldn't fire. WOW! The Sky-Tec starter sounds awful! How do they stay in
business? Anyway, you've offered fixes like the buffer relay to prevent
run-on and a second battery so the engine can start on one while the EI is
powered from the other. I could deal with the buffer relay, but having to
add a second battery just to keep the EI firing seems ridiculous. What
happens when the two batteries are connected to assist cold-weather
starting? Bottom Line: Do I need to try to sell the Sky-Tec starter and
buy a B&C starter?
Regards,
Troy Scott
tscott1217@bellsouth.net
Glasair Super IISRG, SOMEDAY!
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--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Steve Richard" <steve@oasissolutions.com>
Sorry, the first file must have been too big (over 1M) and did not show up
with the e-mail. I have zipped it and attached it to this e-mail. If it
doesn't come across this time, I'm not sure what the problem is. The file
contains over 50 visio symbols converted from AeroElectric CAD drawings.
Steve
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Steve Richard"
<steve@oasissolutions.com>
Does this file help anyone?
Steve Richard
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Chad
Robinson
Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: Visio Symbols
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Chad Robinson
<crobinson@rfgonline.com>
Dick Tasker wrote:
> Is there any reason you could not post a version of this file saved in
> an earlier version of Visio? I have Visio Technical 4 and can save
> visio files in version 2, 3 and 4. Or did Microsoft, in its fine
> monopolistic way remove the capability to save in previous version's
> file formats?
Sorry folks, I only have Visio 2000, and there does not appear to be any
option to control the version of the files. I'll keep looking. Meanwhile,
expect another release in a day or two that fixes the other comments you've
all sent, and thanks for the feedback.
I'll make announcements to this list as the file is updated. Bob, any chance
you could drop me a line if you post any new ones?
Regards,
Chad
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Subject: | Re: Visio Symbols |
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Robert Dufresne <robertdufresne@videotron.ca>
Chad,
Same problem for me , i use Visio 2003
Robert
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jon Finley" <jon@finleyweb.net>
Subject: RE: AeroElectric-List: Visio Symbols
> --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Jon Finley" <jon@finleyweb.net>
>
> Hi Chad,
>
> Sorry to report that the symbols don't work too well for me. I've
> opened them as a stencil. When I pull them onto a page the left side is
> cut off (they are also VERY large).
>
> Keep trying, this is good stuff!
>
> Jon
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com
> > [mailto:owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com] On
> > Behalf Of Chad Robinson
> > Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2004 12:56 AM
> > To: aeroelectric-list@matronics.com
> > Subject: AeroElectric-List: Visio Symbols
> >
> >
> > --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Chad Robinson
> > --> <crobinson@rfgonline.com>
> >
> > Hello all,
> >
> > I have been working on a Visio symbol stencil set based on
> > Bob's CAD symbols -
> > Bob, I hope you don't mind. I'm doing 5-10 a day as time
> > permits, so this
> > first copy is just a test set to be sure it works, but I'd
> > appreciate it if a
> > few people would download the file and check it out. Visio
> > 2000 or higher is
> > required.
> >
> > If this works out I'll incorporate most of the major symbols
> > this weekend,
> > then do the rest a few at a time as time permits. Check back
> > periodically for
> > updates.
> >
> > http://www.lucubration.com/aero/
> >
> > Regards,
> > Chad
>
>
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Subject: | Re: Visio Symbols |
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Robert McCallum <robert.mccallum2@sympatico.ca>
Steve Richard wrote:
>--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Steve Richard" <steve@oasissolutions.com>
>
>Sorry, the first file must have been too big (over 1M) and did not show up
>with the e-mail. I have zipped it and attached it to this e-mail. If it
>doesn't come across this time, I'm not sure what the problem is. The file
>contains over 50 visio symbols converted from AeroElectric CAD drawings.
>
>Steve
>
>
The problem Steve is you can't send ANY attachments to the list. They
are automatically stripped as insurance against viruses. You need to
send a URL as you did earlier where people can pick up the file.
Bob McC
do not archive
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Subject: | "mother of all electric systems" or just add SD-8 |
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Troy Scott" <tscott1217@bellsouth.net>
Bob Nuckolls,
First, I apologize! I've just realized I've been mis-spelling your name.
In reading your book, I discovered the Fig's 17-5 and Z-14 dual battery,
dual alternator, split bus "mother of all electrical systems" design. The
clever name you've given this plan sounds like high praise to me. I assumed
that meant that's what I, as a serious pilot, should do. But I've since
come across more of your writings, particularly messages 3573, 3865, 2539,
3160, 4090 (and probably several others I haven't found yet) which all sound
like you really think the "all electric airplane on a budget" architecture
shown in Z-13 is very adequate and possibly preferable. It's certainly
lighter. As I've mentioned before I have the IO360 Lycoming with dual
ElectroAir EI and normal compression, and an all-electric (but not too
power-hungry) IFR panel. I thought I had decided to proceed with the
"mother of all...." plan, but if you think the "all electric on a budget"
plan is sufficient, that's what I'll do. Anxiously awaiting your reply to
this and the PM starter question I am
Troy Scott
tscott1217@bellsouth.net
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--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Troy Scott" <tscott1217@bellsouth.net>
OK, guys, I'm sure I could find it, but it's late and I'm tired. What does
IBMM mean?
Troy
tscott1217@bellsouth.net
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