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1. 06:24 AM - Understanding the E-Buss (Julia)
2. 07:29 AM - Re: Radio Antenna for CD player (flyv35b)
3. 07:44 AM - Re: Essential Bus, Aux Battery, with Z-30 (Mickey Coggins)
4. 07:53 AM - Re: Good Stuff from other Sources.... ()
5. 08:37 AM - Experience with TruTrack and Navaid Devices Auto Pilots (royt.or@netzero.com)
6. 10:44 AM - Re: Radio Antenna for CD player (Denny)
7. 10:56 AM - Re: Panel Lighting Options (jim jewell)
8. 11:15 AM - Diode polarity? (Rick Fogerson)
9. 11:17 AM - Re: Good Stuff from other Sources.... (Eric M. Jones)
10. 11:23 AM - Re: Panel Lighting Options (Dj Merrill)
11. 11:23 AM - Re: Panel Lighting Options (Dj Merrill)
12. 11:59 AM - Re: Diode polarity? (Vincent Welch)
13. 12:14 PM - Re: Panel Lighting Options (Dj Merrill)
14. 01:18 PM - FW: Battery maintainers ()
15. 01:43 PM - Re: FW: Battery maintainers (ALWAYSPDG@aol.com)
16. 01:46 PM - Re: FW: Battery maintainers (David E. Nelson)
17. 01:58 PM - Re: FW: Battery maintainers (Matt Prather)
18. 05:00 PM - Re: Panel Lighting Options (Neil Clayton)
19. 05:41 PM - aeroelectric seminar at Jefferson City (Dean)
20. 05:49 PM - Part number transposition in LVWABMM schematic (Dave Morris)
21. 07:38 PM - Re: Radio Antenna for CD player (Tammy and Mike Salzman)
22. 07:38 PM - FAA AC 20-27F.pdf (BAKEROCB@aol.com)
23. 07:38 PM - Panel Lighting Options (BAKEROCB@aol.com)
24. 09:47 PM - Re: RV-List: Dynon (David Carter)
25. 09:48 PM - Re: FAA AC 20-27F.pdf (TSaccio@aol.com)
26. 10:35 PM - Re: FAA AC 20-27F.pdf (Dj Merrill)
27. 10:52 PM - Re: FAA AC 20-27F.pdf (Bruce Gray)
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| Subject: | Understanding the E-Buss |
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Julia <wings97302@yahoo.com>
Hello
Im wiring my RV following Bobs diagram Z-xx (Generic light aircraft electrical
system (alternator w/built-in regulator).
Question: The E-Buss is fed from the Battery buss with 16 gage wire & a switch.
It is also fed via the diode with 16 gage wire. If all of the components listed
on the E-Buss are on, isnt that going to draw quite a bit of power more than
the 16 gage wire can handle?? In my case I have a booster pump for a fuel injected
engine it looks like it might draw quite a bit of juice what should
I do here this booster fuel pump is certainly an essential item and so should
go on the E-buss.
If you are going down you turn off the Master switch and then have NO power behind
the firewall a good thing. With this Battery buss you end up with a small
16 gage hot wire coming back behind the firewall is this not a big deal since
its a small wire and would short and fry quickly in a crash as opposed to
a scenario where one had a 6 gage wire, which might cause quite an electical mess
before it fried? Could someone please help me understand this.
Thanks.
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| Subject: | Re: Radio Antenna for CD player |
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "flyv35b" <flyv35b@juno.com>
I have a short piece (about 15") of RG-58AU co-ax connected to the FM
antenna in my Bonanza and it seems to work fine.
Cliff Hanson
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jeff Hildebrand" <jhildebrand@crownequip.com>
Subject: AeroElectric-List: Radio Antenna for CD player
> --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Jeff Hildebrand"
<jhildebrand@crownequip.com>
>
> I have installed a automotive CD player in our Lancair ES. I would like
> to put in an AM/FM antenna, but do not want to compromise any other part
> of electrical system or antennas.
>
>
> What do I use for an antenna? Can I keep this antenna inside? The
> plane is all fiberglass and I don't want any antennas outside.
>
>
> Jeff Hildebrand
>
> Lancair ES C-GSPH
>
> http://lancair.northstartraffic.ca <http://lancair.northstartraffic.ca/>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Essential Bus, Aux Battery, with Z-30 |
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Mickey Coggins <mick-matronics@rv8.ch>
Hi Bob,
Thanks for getting back to me so quickly.
I'm building a day/night VFR RV8 that will be running
a car engine, so I will have electronic ignition
and fuel pumps. I have not yet chosen the final
engine package I will use, so I don't know if it
will have two ignitions or not. No vacuum pump.
The only items I have on my endurance bus are the
ECM, fuel pumps, Navcom, and the transponder. I
have not yet decided how essential a Dynon would
be.
I'm not planning on any Atlantic crossings, but
I do fly over the Alps, and hope to visit my
buddies up in the UK.
Depending on the situation, I'll be happy if
the ECM(s) and fuel pumps keep working. I will
have a courtesy light hooked directly
to the main and/or aux battery bus.
I'm deducing as fast as I can, but I still don't
see the best way to get juice from the aux battery
to the endurance bus.
Thanks,
Mickey
> First, what kind of airplane are you building? Does it
> have an electrically dependent engine? If so, does the engine
> have DUAL systems such that either system will run
> the engine? Do you plan a vacuum system? Do you plan
> to fly at night . . . or long periods of IMC?
> What equipment would you put on the ENDURANCE bus
> (we need to quit calling it an essential bus)?
>
> After you post answers to the above, lets see
> if we can provide some information that allows
> you to deduce the answers to questions you cited
> above.
--
Mickey Coggins
http://www.rv8.ch/
#82007 Wings
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| Subject: | Good Stuff from other Sources.... |
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: <beecho@beecho.org>
Hi Eric
Can you give some internet links for some of these sites?
Tom, beecho@beecho.org
Do not archive
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Eric
M. Jones
Subject: AeroElectric-List: Good Stuff from other Sources....
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Eric M. Jones"
<emjones@charter.net>
There's lots of good stuff for airplanes in magazines and catalogs aimed
at
a completely different crowd. Half of everything you ever wanted can be
found in yachting magazines. But my stepson will be 16 next month so hot
cars and hot babes percolate through his brain. I am thus heir to a
growing
catalog library of Tune-O-Rama souped-up imports a la "The Fast and
Furious"
.
I learn a lot by looking over his shoulder-new designs in vehicles,
winged
or not, is booming in the Oriental-Mexican-Laid-Off-High-Tech land of El
Monte, Pomona, and Santa Fe Springs. And some of these designs are
positively brilliant! Prices are not bad either.
Entertainment systems have gone over to huge shock mounted remotely
located
hard-drives, with displays and controls on flat screen videos on the
panel.
Available touch-screen selections include, Audio, Video, DVD,
Cameras(!).
NAV (GPS), Games, etc. See www.TRC12Volt.com.
Cool Instruments-Analog gauges were never completely taken over by
digits.
Now the analog gauges are better than ever and many meters are little
flat-screens that do tricks. Round analog gauges have found a new home
on
"pods" located on what they used to call the A-pillar. A great place for
high-visual value gauges. Superb lighting too, lots of Indiglo. I'd look
at
these before buying from the aircraft folks.
More neat tricks-Beltronics has a neat little Performance Timer
Accelerometer. Since the thing is a timer and accelerometer coupled to a
microprocessor, they do amazing things with it. Among other things it
measures horsepower. How neat would it be to build a device that tells
you
if you're going to be able to take off in the available runway using
such a
device as a start?
Heads-up displays-see www.holosport.com.
Titanium mufflers, HID lights, LEDs, racing seats, mixture gauges (I
never
suspected that anyone made these!), control stick booties-you WISH your
engine compartment and interior could look this good! Now where do they
get
those young babes in the carbon-fiber bikinis?
Regards,
Eric M. Jones
www.PerihelionDesign.com
113 Brentwood Drive
Southbridge MA 01550-2705
Phone (508) 764-2072
Email: emjones@charter.net
ps: Bob---That's a battery am you best filter ...
==
==
==
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| Subject: | Experience with TruTrack and Navaid Devices Auto Pilots |
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: royt.or@netzero.com
(Cross post on Zenith List and Aeroelectric list)
I purchased a ($1300) Navaid Devices single axis autopilot in early 02 (http://navaid-devices.com/index.htm). When the Digitrak was introduced at Oshkosk in 02 with an introductory price of ~$1600 (now $1795), I decided I would return the Navaid Device AP and get the Digitrak (http://www.trutrakflightsystems.com/).
My Digitrak performs great. I did break the servo shear screws after I had flow
my plane for about 60 hours. Trutrak had GREAT customer service. Before I understood
why the AP no longer worked correctly, Trutrak said to ship the controller
and the servo to them, AT THEIR COST, and they would repair and return the
unit. When I realized the shear screws broke, I returned the servo, AT TRUTRAKS
COST, and they exchanged the servo for a more powerful unit. The new servo
was shipped the same day Trutrak received my original servo.
The Navaid Device guarantee states The customer has 60 days in which to return
the equipment for a full refund. In the case of an aircraft under construction,
the clock starts whenever you start flying; we take your word on that date.
So, when I started flying my plane, I contacted Navaid Devices to find out what
needed to be done to return the unit per the guarantee. I shipped the unit back
(at my cost) per directions, with instructions to apply the refund to my credit
card. After calling to get confirmation that the unit was delivered, I was
told all the returned AP was complete and my refund would appear shortly. Shortly
took about 4 months, multiple phone calls, emails and faxes. Each time I
talked to Richard, he told me something like he had not gotten around to processing
the refund and would do it that day.
Im very glad I have the Digitrak. The total cost of the Digitrak is higher than
the cost of a Navaid Devices. In addition to the higher cost of the AP, you need
to supply a GPS data stream to the Digitrak and the Digitrak does not include
a turn coordinator.
Trutrak is a company who continues to develop innovative auto pilots. In my experience,
they have great customer support.
Navaid Devices is a company who produces an existing product, but does not have
designers on staff and may not understand all the intricacies of the design.
My experience was poor response/suppport from Navaid Devices.
Regards,
Roy
N601RT: CH601HDS, nose gear, Rotax 912ULS, All electric, IFR equipped, 160 hrs.
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| Subject: | Radio Antenna for CD player |
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Denny" <dennymortensen@cableone.net>
Hi Jeff you need to make a dipole with each side being 26.2 inches long.
I highly recommend the book by Jim Weir from RST Engineering
http://www.rst-engr.com It will explain the how's and whys of all of
this and the proper placement. You can bye the book alone or the book
and the kit of parts all extremely reasonable.
Good luck
Denny
-----Original Message-----
Subject: AeroElectric-List: Radio Antenna for CD player
I have installed a automotive CD player in our Lancair ES. I would like
to put in an AM/FM antenna, but do not want to compromise any other part
of electrical system or antennas.
What do I use for an antenna? Can I keep this antenna inside? The
plane is all fiberglass and I don't want any antennas outside.
Jeff Hildebrand
Lancair ES C-GSPH
http://lancair.northstartraffic.ca <http://lancair.northstartraffic.ca/>
_
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| Subject: | Re: Panel Lighting Options |
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "jim jewell" <jjewell@telus.net>
Ben,
Thanks for the info. I have at least 3" of of glare sheild to work with if I
decide to go with
the light strips.
Jim in Kelowna
do not archive - message re-sent due to delivery failure notice.
----- Original Message -----
From: <Benford2@aol.com>
Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: Panel Lighting Options
> --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Benford2@aol.com
>
> In a message dated 1/18/2004 6:20:56 PM Mountain Standard Time,
> jjewell@telus.net writes:
>
> > Hello Ben,
> >
> > How far from the control panel are your strip lights?
> > A measurement from the center of the strip light to the panel surface To
the
> > nearest 1/4" will do.
> > Thanks,
> > Jim in Kelowna
>
> Strips are about an inch wide. The inner part is 3/8" away and the
outside
> is 1 3/8". If I had one more inch or so to move it out I bet it would be
much
> better.
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--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Rick Fogerson" <rickf@cableone.net>
Hi Bob,
I bought two Radio Shack diodes (V7D N5400) to jumper the coil on the two relays
you recommended for the dual E.I.'s that are located in the back of the RV3
with the dual batteries. Your book designates the polarity of a diode with a
black stripe at one end. However, the diodes I bought are 3/4 black with one
end (about 1/4 of the diode length) silver?
Thanks for your assistance,
Rick Fogerson
Boise, ID
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| Subject: | RE: Good Stuff from other Sources.... |
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Eric M. Jones" <emjones@charter.net>
>From: beecho@beecho.org
> AeroElectric-List message posted by: <beecho@beecho.org>
>Can you give some internet links for some of these sites?
>Tom, beecho@beecho.org
Do not archive
Tom and others, I would suggest swinging by your local magazine rack and
grabbing a couple of the magazines devoted to hot cars. The one I perused
was "Import Tuner"l. They do have a website at www.importtuner.com but
you'll have to plow thorough the pretty models to find the car parts. There
are lots more of these site online. Google!
Eric
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| Subject: | Re: Panel Lighting Options |
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Dj Merrill <deej@thayer.dartmouth.edu>
(by way of Matt Dralle <nospam@matronics.com>)
John Wiegenstein wrote:
>--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "John Wiegenstein"
><n727jw@hellerwiegenstein.com>
>I've got 3 of the Van's eyeball lights but am waffling over whether to go
>with those (either on the cockpit sides, or more likely recessed at
>intervals in a foam mounting block run along the underside of the glare
>shield skin) or something like the strip lighting kit from Aero Enhancements
>(www.aeroenhancements.com), which looks neat and provides an easy mounting
>setup on the underside of the glare shield skin, but kind of spendy. Any
>recent experience by any listers with either option? I've got a tip-up 6
>with a few internally lit instruments, but the flight instruments are
>unlighted. Any other options that people are using with good results?
>John Wiegenstein
>Hansville, WA
>RV-6 N727JW (reserved)
I just retrofited all of my flight instruments with the
Nulite units (available from Aircraft Spruce for about $38 each).
End result is that the instruments appear as if they have
internal lighting built in. I coupled it to a
dimmer system from B&C
http://www.bandc.biz/cgi-bin/ez-catalog/cat_display.cgi?10X358218#dim50-14
I like the end result a lot.
http://www.directron.com/bluelightstrip.html
I bought some, but have not installed it yet due to the
frigid cold weather up here in the NE.
-Dj
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| Subject: | Re: Panel Lighting Options |
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Dj Merrill <deej@thayer.dartmouth.edu>
(by way of Matt Dralle <nospam@matronics.com>)
John Wiegenstein wrote:
>--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "John Wiegenstein"
><n727jw@hellerwiegenstein.com>
>I've got 3 of the Van's eyeball lights but am waffling over whether to go
>with those (either on the cockpit sides, or more likely recessed at
>intervals in a foam mounting block run along the underside of the glare
>shield skin) or something like the strip lighting kit from Aero Enhancements
>(www.aeroenhancements.com), which looks neat and provides an easy mounting
>setup on the underside of the glare shield skin, but kind of spendy. Any
>recent experience by any listers with either option? I've got a tip-up 6
>with a few internally lit instruments, but the flight instruments are
>unlighted. Any other options that people are using with good results?
>John Wiegenstein
>Hansville, WA
>RV-6 N727JW (reserved)
I just retrofited all of my flight instruments with the
Nulite units (available from Aircraft Spruce for about $38 each).
End result is that the instruments appear as if they have
internal lighting built in. I coupled it to a
dimmer system from B&C
http://www.bandc.biz/cgi-bin/ez-catalog/cat_display.cgi?10X358218#dim50-14
I like the end result a lot.
For glareshield strip lighting, try these at $10:
http://www.directron.com/bluelightstrip.html
I bought some, but have not installed yet due to the
frigid cold weather up here in the NE.
-Dj
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--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Vincent Welch" <welchvincent@hotmail.com>
It doesn't matter the stripe, be it white or black denotes the cathode end.
Wire according to Bob's drawing regardless of the color of the stripe on
your particular diode.
Vince
>From: "Rick Fogerson" <rickf@cableone.net>
>Reply-To: aeroelectric-list@matronics.com
>To: <aeroelectric-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: AeroElectric-List: Diode polarity?
>Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 12:17:33 -0700
>
>--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Rick Fogerson"
><rickf@cableone.net>
>
>Hi Bob,
>I bought two Radio Shack diodes (V7D N5400) to jumper the coil on the two
>relays you recommended for the dual E.I.'s that are located in the back of
>the RV3 with the dual batteries. Your book designates the polarity of a
>diode with a black stripe at one end. However, the diodes I bought are 3/4
>black with one end (about 1/4 of the diode length) silver?
>
>Thanks for your assistance,
>Rick Fogerson
>Boise, ID
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Panel Lighting Options |
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Dj Merrill <deej@thayer.dartmouth.edu>
This is weird. I sent this out on Sunday (yesterday)
early afternoon, and it is just showing up now...
-Dj
On Mon, 2004-01-19 at 14:23, Dj Merrill wrote:
> I just retrofited all of my flight instruments with the
> Nulite units (available from Aircraft Spruce for about $38 each).
> End result is that the instruments appear as if they have
> internal lighting built in. I coupled it to a
> dimmer system from B&C
> http://www.bandc.biz/cgi-bin/ez-catalog/cat_display.cgi?10X358218#dim50-14
> I like the end result a lot.
>
> For glareshield strip lighting, try these at $10:
> http://www.directron.com/bluelightstrip.html
> I bought some, but have not installed yet due to the
> frigid cold weather up here in the NE.
>
> -Dj
>
--
Dj Merrill Thayer School of Engineering
ThUG Sr. Unix Systems Administrator 8000 Cummings Hall
deej@thayer.dartmouth.edu - N1JOV Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH 03755
"On the side of the software box, in the 'System Requirements' section,
it said 'Requires Windows 95 or better'. So I installed Linux."
-Anonymous
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| Subject: | FW: Battery maintainers |
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: <beecho@beecho.org>
-----Original Message-----
From: beecho@beecho.org [mailto:beecho@beecho.org]
Subject: Battery maintainers
Does anyone have experience with battery maintainers that one can leave
installed on a sealed battery without risk of damaging it? Aircraft
Spruce shows three different ones. Batteryminder, Battery Tender, and
Electronic power Systems.
Thanks
Tom Friedland
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| Subject: | Re: FW: Battery maintainers |
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: ALWAYSPDG@aol.com
Tom, I have used the Battery Tender for many years and it has worked very
well for me. I have used them on motorcycles, airplanes, and cars. I highly
recommend this charger. It is completely automatic. You just plug it in and you
are
done. It does all the work for you.
I don't have any experience with the others therefore I just thought I would
give my opinion on the one I do.
Michael Valentine
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| Subject: | Re: FW: Battery maintainers |
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "David E. Nelson" <david.nelson@pobox.com>
Hi Tom,
I've been using a Battery Tender Plus on my motorcycle batfteries. Both
traditional water/acid based and the Panasonic "Sealed Lead-Acid" w/o any
problems. Been using for the Battery Tender for several years and have left it
on for months at a time with great success.
Regards,
/\/elson
RV-7A - Emp
Austin, TX
On Mon, 19 Jan 2004 beecho@beecho.org wrote:
> --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: <beecho@beecho.org>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: beecho@beecho.org [mailto:beecho@beecho.org]
> To: AeroElectric Forum
> Subject: Battery maintainers
>
>
> Does anyone have experience with battery maintainers that one can leave
> installed on a sealed battery without risk of damaging it? Aircraft
> Spruce shows three different ones. Batteryminder, Battery Tender, and
> Electronic power Systems.
>
> Thanks
>
> Tom Friedland
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| Subject: | Re: FW: Battery maintainers |
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Matt Prather" <mprather@spro.net>
Covered at some length in the archive. Search for 'battery tender'.
Regards,
Matt
N34RD
do not archive
> --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: <beecho@beecho.org>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: beecho@beecho.org [mailto:beecho@beecho.org]
> To: AeroElectric Forum
> Subject: Battery maintainers
>
>
> Does anyone have experience with battery maintainers that one can leave
> installed on a sealed battery without risk of damaging it? Aircraft
> Spruce shows three different ones. Batteryminder, Battery Tender, and
> Electronic power Systems.
>
> Thanks
>
> Tom Friedland
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Panel Lighting Options |
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Neil Clayton <harvey4@earthlink.net>
At 10:41 AM 1/18/2004, you wrote:
>.....My only regret is I should have left a longer
>overhang to my top skin over the panel.
Ben....how much "overhang" did you leave? I'm thinking of using the same
strip lighting feature.
Thanks
Neil
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| Subject: | aeroelectric seminar at Jefferson City |
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Dean" <dvanwinkle@royell.net>
Bob
Belated thank you for the excellent seminar last weekend. You provided the extra
knowledge and instilled the confidence I needed to start wiring my RV-9A.
With my electrically dependent engine, I am sure that I will have more questions
as time goes on. We discussed use of bonding brushes at the seminar and just
this week, The Yard Catalog # 61 arrived in the mail and confirmed my recollection
that they were my source. They have the brushes with 3/32, 1/8, 5/32,
and 3/16 pilots at $1.50 each or a set of four for $3.95. They are new stock,
not used , see page 35.
Best Regards
Alden Van Winkle
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| Subject: | Part number transposition in LVWABMM schematic |
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Dave Morris <dave@davemorris.com>
Bob,
While keying in a Digikey order for parts for the Low Voltage Warning and
Aux Battery Management Module, I discovered that the 1.0uF 16V tantalum cap
was mislabeled on the schematic diagram (page 2 of
http://www.aeroelectric.com/articles/lvwarn/9021-620.pdf) as Digikey Part
Number P2015, but should actually be P2105. The part number as currently
listed is the wrong value and the wrong voltage.
Regards,
Dave Morris
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| Subject: | Re: Radio Antenna for CD player |
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Tammy and Mike Salzman <arrow54t@yahoo.com>
Bob and all,
Sorry for not including it. Thought you could read my mind, ..er
something. I feel like a dutz. Here it is:
http://www.julianos.com/in-car_antenna.html
Mike Salzman
Fairfield, CA
LNCE
--- BobsV35B@aol.com wrote:
> --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: BobsV35B@aol.com
>.....
> Good Evening Mike,
>
> Is there a link here that I missed?
.......
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| Subject: | FAA AC 20-27F.pdf |
pulsar-builders@caseyk.org
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: BAKEROCB@aol.com
1/19/2004
Hello Fellow Builders, Advisory Circular 20-27F, CERTIFICATION AND OPERATION
OF AMATEUR-BUILT AIRCRAFT is the latest version of this AC. Anyone thinking of
building an aircraft, building an aircraft, registering an aircraft, or
having an aircraft inspected should have this AC.
I have downloaded this AC from the FAA web site and have it in my computer in
pdf format. Anyone desiring a copy may email me direct and I will respond
with an email with the pdf file attached. You can then down load the file and,
with Adobe reader software, read or print the file or selected portions of it.
The Adobe reader software may be downloaded free from the Adobe web site if
you don't already have a copy in your computer.
'OC' Baker, Builder of KIS TR-1 #116 4/14/97 - 11/17/03
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| Subject: | Panel Lighting Options |
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: BAKEROCB@aol.com
AeroElectric-List message previously posted by: "John Wiegenstein"
<n727jw@hellerwiegenstein.com>
<<.......skip.......... Any other options that people are using with good
results?
John Wiegenstein >>
1/19/2004
Hello John, I went with internally lighted instruments. Very nice lighting,
very expensive, and not easy to change bulbs.
If I had it to do over again I'd take a very close look at Nulites. See
<<www.nulite.net>>
'OC' Baker, Builder of KIS TR-1 #116 4/14/97 - 11/17/03
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<rv-list@matronics.com>
| Subject: | Re: RV-List: Dynon |
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "David Carter" <dcarter@datarecall.net>
Maybe you could post this noise problem on Bob Nuckoll's Aeroelectric e-mail
list - he could suggest an approach to finding and eliminating the noise.
He just needs as much info as you have to know what to advise. The address
is in the "To" field above.
David Carter
----- Original Message -----
From: "Stewart, Michael (ISS Atlanta)" <mstewart@iss.net>
Subject: RE: RV-List: Dynon
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Stewart, Michael (ISS Atlanta)"
<mstewart@iss.net>
>
> It was a problem with white noise, sometime called broad band noise by
> engineers), also called EMI, breaking squelch on the com. Many many
> days spent trying different things to make it go away. Dynon is aware of
> the problem and offers only the standard solutions. You know, shield,
> protect, rewire, etc. Ultimately I was unable to find a satisfactory
> solution and pulled the unit(external mag compass) out. It does provide
> an accurate heading, but the EMI is unacceptable.
>
> See archived message number 116261 for details on my EMI problem. I know
> of 6 others personally, that is people I know and fly with, who also
> experienced this problem, and about 10 more through emails around the
> country, that also experienced this problem and hoped I could find a
> solution. Some have been able to get the problem under control, although
> I know of none personally have have been able to make it go away
> completelynot. Others, as in my case, have only been able to make it go
> from really really bad, to bad.
>
> Anyway, that's why I say the external mag "sucks"
> Mike
> Do not archive.
>
> Oh and PS, Doug at Dynon did call me this morning after reading my post
> to ask that I do some data logging as they have seen this problem, the
> tilting problem that is, before. I will be happy to do this as long as I
> can reproduce the problem reliably. So far I have only the first
> repeated occurrence in light to moderate chop with the occasional head
> canopy smashing. Ill have to keep flying to find out how to reproduce
> the problem. Poor me.
>
> Also Doug said, to his credit, that one occurrence (which I already knew
> cause I fly with this guy every week), showed upwards of a 45 degree
> roll on level wings. These are isolated incidences for sure. But I know
> of several myself, and I am just one guy.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Wheeler North
> To: 'rv-list@matronics.com'
> Subject: RV-List: Dynon
>
> --> RV-List message posted by: Wheeler North <wnorth@sdccd.cc.ca.us>
>
> Mike, why do you say the external mag on the dynon sucks?
>
> It took a little fiddling to get it installed accurately, but mine is
> now as
> accurate as my SIRS compass.
>
> W
>
> do not archive
>
>
> ==
> ==
> ==
> ==
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: FAA AC 20-27F.pdf |
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: TSaccio@aol.com
Please send me a copy of the Advisory Circular.
Thanks,
Tom Saccio
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| Subject: | Re: FAA AC 20-27F.pdf |
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Dj Merrill <deej@thayer.dartmouth.edu>
On Mon, 19 Jan 2004 BAKEROCB@aol.com wrote:
> I have downloaded this AC from the FAA web site and have it in my computer in
> pdf format. Anyone desiring a copy may email me direct and I will respond
Hi,
Any chance you might be able to post the FAA web site link
where you downloaded this?
Thanks!
-Dj
--
Dj Merrill Thayer School of Engineering
ThUG Sr. Unix Systems Administrator 8000 Cummings Hall
deej@thayer.dartmouth.edu - N1JOV Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH 03755
"On the side of the software box, in the 'System Requirements' section,
it said 'Requires Windows 95 or better'. So I installed Linux." -Anonymous
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| Subject: | FAA AC 20-27F.pdf |
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Bruce Gray" <Bruce@glasair.org>
Every AC you ever wanted.
http://www.airweb.faa.gov/Regulatory_and_Guidance_Library/rgAdvisoryCirc
ular.nsf
Bruce
www.glasair.org
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dj
Merrill
Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: FAA AC 20-27F.pdf
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Dj Merrill
<deej@thayer.dartmouth.edu>
On Mon, 19 Jan 2004 BAKEROCB@aol.com wrote:
> I have downloaded this AC from the FAA web site and have it in my
computer in
> pdf format. Anyone desiring a copy may email me direct and I will
respond
Hi,
Any chance you might be able to post the FAA web site link
where you downloaded this?
Thanks!
-Dj
--
Dj Merrill Thayer School of Engineering
ThUG Sr. Unix Systems Administrator 8000 Cummings Hall
deej@thayer.dartmouth.edu - N1JOV Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH 03755
"On the side of the software box, in the 'System Requirements' section,
it said 'Requires Windows 95 or better'. So I installed Linux."
-Anonymous
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