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1. 08:21 AM - Re: Firewall penetration questions (Larry Landucci)
2. 09:45 AM - Re: Firewall penetration questions (GMC)
3. 10:11 AM - Re: radio wiring (Steve Sampson)
4. 10:21 AM - attitude indicator on E-Buss or Main Buss?? (Julia)
5. 10:46 AM - Re: radio wiring (Jeffrey W. Skiba)
6. 11:14 AM - Re: attitude indicator on E-Buss or Main Buss?? (Matt Prather)
7. 11:14 AM - Re: attitude indicator on E-Buss or Main Buss?? (Matt Prather)
8. 11:28 AM - Re: attitude indicator on E-Buss or Main Buss?? (James E. Clark)
9. 08:03 PM - connectors on AML34 (Troy Scott)
10. 08:26 PM - Re: connectors on AML34 (Bruce Gray)
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| Subject: | Re: Firewall penetration questions |
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Larry Landucci <lllanducci@tds.net>
The most economical solution is to fabricate your own firewall shields
from scrap stainless steel. It is easy to do and is fully described in
"Firewall Forward" by Tony Bingelis.
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| Subject: | Firewall penetration questions |
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "GMC" <gmcnutt@uniserve.com>
Save a bundle, go to a aircraft salvage yard and see if you can purchase and
remove the firewall swivel penetrations from a Bonanza, these usually go
un-sold so are left on the firewall.
George in Langley
Do not archive
Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: Firewall penetration questions
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Larry Landucci <lllanducci@tds.net>
The most economical solution is to fabricate your own firewall shields
from scrap stainless steel. It is easy to do and is fully described in
"Firewall Forward" by Tony Bingelis.
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--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Steve Sampson" <SSampson.SLN21@london.edu>
Bob - I dont know if it is just me but my copy of Adobe insists the file is
damaged and cant open it....................... Steve.
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From: owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Robert
L. Nuckolls, III
Subject: RE: AeroElectric-List: radio wiring
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Robert L. Nuckolls, III"
<bob.nuckolls@cox.net>
See http://www.aeroelectric.com/Catalog/avionics/760imB.pdf
for an exemplar wiring diagram for comm transceiver. Also,
if you DO decide to install the 760VHF, I still have a few
wire harnesses for that radio.
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| Subject: | attitude indicator on E-Buss or Main Buss?? |
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Julia <wings97302@yahoo.com>
would the ELECTRIC attitude indicator go on the e-buss or main?
if on the e-buss and I don't have a switch for it - then if in VFR with failed
alternator - I would not need it yet it would be running and so draining the battery?
How about the electric booster pump - main buss or e-buss??
should the comm/gps/transponder all go on the e-buss- they all have indipendend
on/off switches on them - so if not needed, I could shut them off.
Would it also be a good idea not to put the attitude indicator and turn coordinator
on the same fuse?? - I would think one would want both on the e-buss??
I'd like NOT to have another switch - how can I avoid one for the attitude indicator.
I'm of the understanding that I ask myself "is it essential for the completion
of the flight" if so I put it on the e-buss. Well then I would think instrument
lights, radios, gps,electric booster pump, attitude indicator, would all go
on the e-buss - am I right here??
I'm having troubles located B&C Electrical - the company Bob used to own - what's
their website
thanks
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--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Jeffrey W. Skiba" <jskiba@icosa.net>
Steve,
I just tried the link and the file opened just fine on my machine, you might
want to try re-installing your program.
Just a suggestion
Jeff.
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From: owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Steve
Sampson
Subject: RE: AeroElectric-List: radio wiring
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Steve Sampson"
--> <SSampson.SLN21@london.edu>
Bob - I dont know if it is just me but my copy of Adobe insists the file is
damaged and cant open it....................... Steve.
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From: owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Robert L.
Nuckolls, III
Subject: RE: AeroElectric-List: radio wiring
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Robert L. Nuckolls, III"
<bob.nuckolls@cox.net>
See http://www.aeroelectric.com/Catalog/avionics/760imB.pdf
for an exemplar wiring diagram for comm transceiver. Also,
if you DO decide to install the 760VHF, I still have a few
wire harnesses for that radio.
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| Subject: | Re: attitude indicator on E-Buss or Main Buss?? |
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Matt Prather" <mprather@spro.net>
BandC is http://www.bandcspecialty.com/ though I don't know if Bob
actually owned them... I think BandC are the initials of Bill and Celesta
Bainbridge, the founders.
Regards,
Matt-
N34RD
> --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Julia <wings97302@yahoo.com>
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>
> I'm having troubles located B&C Electrical - the company Bob used to own
> - what's their website thanks
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| Subject: | Re: attitude indicator on E-Buss or Main Buss?? |
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Matt Prather" <mprather@spro.net>
BandC is http://www.bandcspecialty.com/ though I don't know if Bob
actually owned them... I think BandC are the initials of Bill and Celesta
Bainbridge, the founders.
> --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Julia <wings97302@yahoo.com>
>
>
> I'm having troubles located B&C Electrical - the company Bob used to own
> - what's their website thanks
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| Subject: | attitude indicator on E-Buss or Main Buss?? |
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "James E. Clark" <james@nextupventures.com>
Comments (OPINIONS) below ...
James
[snip]
>
> would the ELECTRIC attitude indicator go on the e-buss or main?
I think the basic idea is if you NEED it to get home safely in the
conditions under which you might fly then put it there.
> if on the e-buss and I don't have a switch for it - then if in
> VFR with failed alternator - I would not need it yet it would be
> running and so draining the battery?
There should be adequate battery to run the things you **REALLY NEED** to
get home for the period that you feel you would have to stay in the air
under the conditions for which you fly. In other words determine what is
gonna be your limits.
- Wanna run til the tanks are dry? then you will need say 4 hours in an RV
of "battery time". The more stuff you hang out there, the bigger the
battery.
- Want to use a particular battery? Then that says how much "juice" you have
to work with ... limit things to fit how long you will need to be in the
air.
- Will "never" be more than 30 minutes from an airport? Then with a
particular battery and a particular mix of "things" you can fit.
I think you will find that Bob (and others) would suggest that you make the
list of stuff you will have in the plane and then determine which of that is
REQUIRED to get home. Next do a "load" analysis, i.e. mark down what the
current consumption is for each item.
Determine how long you will want to be upor determine the battery and you
will be told how long you can stay up. If this works, you're done. If not,
change the "required" list or the battery or the time you want to be up and
reiterate.
So you see there is no fixed answer. "It depends" on your preferences, but
there is a "process" that you can use.
>
> How about the electric booster pump - main buss or e-buss??
Your call but I would not. It is NOT required to fly me home (unless of
course the engine mechanical pump fails [in a low wing]). You probably would
not have had it on when the alternator failed anyway unless you were
climbing out.
>
> should the comm/gps/transponder all go on the e-buss- they all
> have indipendend on/off switches on them - so if not needed, I
> could shut them off.
Which ones do **you** need to get home safely? The less you have on the
"E-Buss", the longer the endurance and/or the smaller the battery required.
Opinon ... the transponder does not help as much with 1) aviate, 2)
navigate, 3) communicate. Doesn't generate lift, doesn't show me the way
home, and doesn't do that much for the communication of the problem I have
as it doesn't have voice, even though once I tell ATC I have a problem, if
all else is well, I don't plan to talk much more.
>
> Would it also be a good idea not to put the attitude indicator
> and turn coordinator on the same fuse?? - I would think one
I would NOT. Your call. The last thing I want is to have a FAULTY turn
coordinator fry the fuse and then take out my PERFECTLY healthy AI that I
was hoping to be able to depend upon to help get me home (assuming there
might have been some visibility issues).
> would want both on the e-buss??
If I had power limitations, I would do at least one ... t he one I would
want to depend upon in a crunch.
> I'd like NOT to have another switch - how can I avoid one for the
> attitude indicator.
>
Why a switch???
> I'm of the understanding that I ask myself "is it essential for
> the completion of the flight" if so I put it on the e-buss.
> Well then I would think instrument lights, radios, gps,electric
> booster pump, attitude indicator, would all go on the e-buss - am
> I right here??
See commentay above. It's your call. No "right" or "wrong" answer. Different
"opinions" from many and some solid facts and experience from a few. I am in
the "opinion" category. ;-)
>
> I'm having troubles located B&C Electrical - the company Bob used
> to own - what's their website
> thanks
Try: http://www.bandc.biz/ or http://www.bandc.info/
James
RV6 flying
RV6A-QB under long term construction
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| Subject: | connectors on AML34 |
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Troy Scott" <tscott1217@bellsouth.net>
Gentlemen,
The red fast-on connectors from B&C seem to fit very well on the
Honeywell/Micro Switch AML34 rocker switches, but they are really difficult
to pull off once installed. Is this hardware meant to work together, or
does it just happen to work?
Regards,
Troy Scott
tscott1217@bellsouth.net
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| Subject: | connectors on AML34 |
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Bruce Gray" <Bruce@glasair.org>
.187 fastons are what is needed. www.steinair.com has them. They are all
difficult to come off. I would hope.
Bruce
www.glasair.org
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From: owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Troy
Scott
Subject: AeroElectric-List: connectors on AML34
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Troy Scott"
<tscott1217@bellsouth.net>
Gentlemen,
The red fast-on connectors from B&C seem to fit very well on the
Honeywell/Micro Switch AML34 rocker switches, but they are really
difficult
to pull off once installed. Is this hardware meant to work together, or
does it just happen to work?
Regards,
Troy Scott
tscott1217@bellsouth.net
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