---------------------------------------------------------- AeroElectric-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sun 05/02/04: 16 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 06:06 AM - Re: radio ariel placement (Steve Sampson) 2. 07:34 AM - HELP needed digitrak and Garmin 196 (Werner Schneider) 3. 10:56 AM - Re: HELP needed digitrak and Garmin 196 (Larry Bowen) 4. 12:06 PM - Re: HELP needed digitrak and Garmin 196 (Werner Schneider) 5. 01:17 PM - More electric trim stuff.... (Bob G) 6. 02:37 PM - Re: HELP needed digitrak and Garmin 196 (Larry Bowen) 7. 02:45 PM - Source for lower prices on fuseblocks (Bobby Hester) 8. 03:43 PM - Re: Source for lower prices on fuseblocks (AI Nut) 9. 04:07 PM - Re: Source for lower prices on fuseblocks (richard@riley.net) 10. 06:04 PM - ANL ring terminal (klehman@albedo.net) 11. 06:32 PM - Re: Spark plug wires... (Richard E. Tasker) 12. 06:34 PM - Re: Avionics Cooling fans - blowers (Richard E. Tasker) 13. 07:02 PM - ANL ring terminal (Wallace Enga) 14. 07:54 PM - short Vans master relay stud length, again... (czechsix@juno.com) 15. 09:20 PM - Re: short Vans master relay stud length, again... (Matt Prather) 16. 11:46 PM - Re: Z-Document to Start From? (Scott, Ian) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 06:06:17 AM PST US From: "Steve Sampson" Subject: RE: AeroElectric-List: radio ariel placement --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Steve Sampson" Thanks for all the help. Steve. --- ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 07:34:11 AM PST US From: "Werner Schneider" Subject: AeroElectric-List: HELP needed digitrak and Garmin 196 --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Werner Schneider" Hello Folks, who has a digitrak and a Garmin 196 hooked up and can use the flightplan feature? I've configured both according the guidelines of TruTrak, I get the bearing info of the GPS, but never an activated flightplan shows up with the -F- symbol on the digitrak. Any advice much appreciated crossposted on Avionics list Werner (Glastar HB-YKP) do not archive ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 10:56:10 AM PST US From: "Larry Bowen" Subject: RE: AeroElectric-List: HELP needed digitrak and Garmin 196 --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Larry Bowen" I have the same equipment, and believe it's functioning corrrectly -- but I'm not flying yet. I think I recall seeing in the documentaiton that you have to be in motion for the nav/flightplan stuff to work. Check the docs on their website. They have 196 specific directions. - Larry Bowen Larry@BowenAero.com http://BowenAero.com > -----Original Message----- > From: Werner Schneider [mailto:wernerschneider@compuserve.com] > Sent: Sunday, May 02, 2004 10:34 AM > To: aeroelectric-list@matronics.com > Subject: AeroElectric-List: HELP needed digitrak and Garmin 196 > > > --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Werner Schneider" > --> > > Hello Folks, > > who has a digitrak and a Garmin 196 hooked up and can use the > flightplan feature? > > I've configured both according the guidelines of TruTrak, I > get the bearing info of the GPS, but never an activated > flightplan shows up with the -F- symbol on the digitrak. > > Any advice much appreciated > > crossposted on Avionics list > > Werner (Glastar HB-YKP) ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 12:06:51 PM PST US From: "Werner Schneider" Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: HELP needed digitrak and Garmin 196 --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Werner Schneider" Larry, I did as their directions say, but it's not working =(;o(( And my plane is flying, just not according to the activated flightplan, just GPS bearings. Thanks Werner ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry Bowen" Subject: RE: AeroElectric-List: HELP needed digitrak and Garmin 196 > --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Larry Bowen" > > I have the same equipment, and believe it's functioning corrrectly -- > but I'm not flying yet. I think I recall seeing in the documentaiton > that you have to be in motion for the nav/flightplan stuff to work. > Check the docs on their website. They have 196 specific directions. > > - > Larry Bowen > Larry@BowenAero.com > http://BowenAero.com > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Werner Schneider [mailto:wernerschneider@compuserve.com] > > Sent: Sunday, May 02, 2004 10:34 AM > > To: aeroelectric-list@matronics.com > > Subject: AeroElectric-List: HELP needed digitrak and Garmin 196 > > > > > > --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Werner Schneider" > > --> > > > > Hello Folks, > > > > who has a digitrak and a Garmin 196 hooked up and can use the > > flightplan feature? > > > > I've configured both according the guidelines of TruTrak, I > > get the bearing info of the GPS, but never an activated > > flightplan shows up with the -F- symbol on the digitrak. > > > > Any advice much appreciated > > > > crossposted on Avionics list > > > > Werner (Glastar HB-YKP) > > ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 01:17:14 PM PST US From: "Bob G" Subject: AeroElectric-List: More electric trim stuff.... --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Bob G" Fellow electron people/aviators, I built an electronic trim system/altitude hold in my Rocket and it continues to work well. My buddy is also building an F1 Rocket and prompted me to build him a similar system. Why mention this here? Because many of the points mentioned recently have been addressed. In short, this tiny box accepts two sets of trim buttons, provides two trim motor speeds via PWM (pulse width modulation), gives limited runaway trim protection and replaces mechanical relays with highly reliable solid state components. It also uses logic to give the pilots trim buttons priority while ignoring the other buttons. The pilot may also disable the other guys buttons anytime via push button. More entertainment is available here... http://www.f1-rocketboy.com/tcm.html As this is still in development, your opinions are gladly accepted! (next years model will have pitot static sense ports for true variable speed trim) Warmest Regards, Bob Gross For the latest F1 progress, click here.. www.F1-Rocketboy.com ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 02:37:21 PM PST US From: "Larry Bowen" Subject: RE: AeroElectric-List: HELP needed digitrak and Garmin 196 --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Larry Bowen" Oh. Sorry. Give TruTrak a call Monday -- and let us know what the fix is..... - Larry Bowen, RV-8 in progress..... Larry@BowenAero.com http://BowenAero.com > -----Original Message----- > From: Werner Schneider [mailto:wernerschneider@compuserve.com] > Sent: Sunday, May 02, 2004 3:06 PM > To: aeroelectric-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: HELP needed digitrak and Garmin 196 > > > --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Werner Schneider" > --> > > Larry, > > I did as their directions say, but it's not working =(;o(( > > And my plane is flying, just not according to the activated > flightplan, just GPS bearings. > > Thanks > > Werner > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Larry Bowen" > To: > Subject: RE: AeroElectric-List: HELP needed digitrak and Garmin 196 > > > > --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Larry Bowen" > > > > > I have the same equipment, and believe it's functioning > corrrectly -- > > but I'm not flying yet. I think I recall seeing in the > documentaiton > > that you have to be in motion for the nav/flightplan stuff to work. > > Check the docs on their website. They have 196 specific directions. > > > > - > > Larry Bowen > > Larry@BowenAero.com > > http://BowenAero.com > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Werner Schneider [mailto:wernerschneider@compuserve.com] > > > Sent: Sunday, May 02, 2004 10:34 AM > > > To: aeroelectric-list@matronics.com > > > Subject: AeroElectric-List: HELP needed digitrak and Garmin 196 > > > > > > > > > --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Werner Schneider" > > > --> > > > > > > Hello Folks, > > > > > > who has a digitrak and a Garmin 196 hooked up and can use the > > > flightplan feature? > > > > > > I've configured both according the guidelines of TruTrak, > I get the > > > bearing info of the GPS, but never an activated > flightplan shows up > > > with the -F- symbol on the digitrak. > > > > > > Any advice much appreciated > > > > > > crossposted on Avionics list > > > > > > Werner (Glastar HB-YKP) > > > > > > > ============ > Matronics Forums. > ============ > ============ > http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/AeroElectric-List.htm > Search Engine: http://www.matronics.com/search > ============ > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 02:45:29 PM PST US From: Bobby Hester Subject: AeroElectric-List: Source for lower prices on fuseblocks --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Bobby Hester I just got back form the AeroElectric Seminar in Nashville. Before I went I was doing a search for the Buss Blade Type Fuseblocks that are used in Bob's wiring systems. I found the exact same fuseblocks on this website: http://www.pegasusautoracing.com/ they have the best prices I have found. I just ordered 1 of each 6,10,20. Bob asked me to let everybody know, so there you go! Someone brought a catalog of electrical supplies that Bob really liked also. I went to there website http://www.waytekwire.com/ and tried to request a catalog but got an error so I'll call them Monday and request one. Really good seminar, good information, and I won a BNC crimping tool :-) -- Surfing the Web from Hopkinsville, KY Visit my web site at: http://www.geocities.com/hester-hoptown/RVSite/ RV7A Slowbuild wings-QB Fuse :-) ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 03:43:03 PM PST US From: "AI Nut" Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: Source for lower prices on fuseblocks --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "AI Nut" Dang! Wish I'd know about that seminar. I'm only about 100 miles from Nashville and would have gone had I known 8-(. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bobby Hester" Subject: AeroElectric-List: Source for lower prices on fuseblocks > --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Bobby Hester > > I just got back form the AeroElectric Seminar in Nashville. Before I > went I was doing a search for the Buss Blade Type Fuseblocks that are > used in Bob's wiring systems. I found the exact same fuseblocks on this > website: http://www.pegasusautoracing.com/ they have the best prices I > have found. I just ordered 1 of each 6,10,20. Bob asked me to let > everybody know, so there you go! > > Someone brought a catalog of electrical supplies that Bob really liked > also. I went to there website http://www.waytekwire.com/ and tried to > request a catalog but got an error so I'll call them Monday and request one. > > Really good seminar, good information, and I won a BNC crimping tool :-) > > -- > Surfing the Web from Hopkinsville, KY > Visit my web site at: http://www.geocities.com/hester-hoptown/RVSite/ > RV7A Slowbuild wings-QB Fuse :-) ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 04:07:28 PM PST US From: richard@riley.net Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: Source for lower prices on fuseblocks --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: richard@riley.net I've bought from Pegasus for years. Always great service, fast delivery, reasonably low prices - I can sometimes find better prices, but never by much. A good vendor to deal with, I keep going back. At 02:49 PM 5/2/04, you wrote: >--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Bobby Hester > > >I just got back form the AeroElectric Seminar in Nashville. Before I >went I was doing a search for the Buss Blade Type Fuseblocks that are >used in Bob's wiring systems. I found the exact same fuseblocks on this >website: http://www.pegasusautoracing.com/ they have the best prices I >have found. I just ordered 1 of each 6,10,20. Bob asked me to let >everybody know, so there you go! > >Someone brought a catalog of electrical supplies that Bob really liked >also. I went to there website http://www.waytekwire.com/ and tried to >request a catalog but got an error so I'll call them Monday and request one. > >Really good seminar, good information, and I won a BNC crimping tool :-) > >-- >Surfing the Web from Hopkinsville, KY >Visit my web site at: http://www.geocities.com/hester-hoptown/RVSite/ >RV7A Slowbuild wings-QB Fuse :-) > > ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 06:04:24 PM PST US From: klehman@albedo.net Subject: AeroElectric-List: ANL ring terminal --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: klehman@albedo.net Hi Would anyone happen to know what size ring terminal fits the ANL fuse holder. Can't seem to find the spec on the B&C site or the Bussman site. thanks Ken ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 06:32:12 PM PST US From: "Richard E. Tasker" Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: Spark plug wires... --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Richard E. Tasker" William wrote: >----------------------------------------------- >Actually, insulation does not increase with altitude. > >Bill schertz > > Actually it does if you go high enough. But then the least of your troubles would be ignition failures. Planes do not fly well in a vacuum, nor do engines operate well :-) . So, for all practical purposes you are correct. Dick Tasker ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 06:34:20 PM PST US From: "Richard E. Tasker" Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: Avionics Cooling fans - blowers --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Richard E. Tasker" The comments below are all correct. However, if you want the el-cheapo fans to work for long, make sure you get the ones with ball bearings rather than sleeve bearings. Dick Tasker Robert McCallum wrote: >--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Robert McCallum > > > > >>--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Jeffrey W. Skiba" >> >>Okay, I am about to give up trying to figure this out, >> >>Why are FAA TSO bla bla bla avionics cooling fans so special?? >> >> >> >They're not. > > > >>I know they >>have all that paper work to drive the price up but other than that, >> >>I mean they are brushless, Made of plastic and run from dc voltage either 12 >>or 24 volts? >> >> >> >Correct. > > > >>So other than the TSO paper work what else makes them so expensive?? >> >> >> >Nothing, other than the fact that those with certified aircraft must use >them by regulation and therefore the seller can get what the market will >bear. > > > >>Is there something special there doing to contain EMI - RFI ??? >> >> >> >No. > > > >>I mean >>computer cooling fans are dirt cheap, and able to cool electronics parts in >>computers, why can't they be used for Experimental aircraft ? >> >> >> >They can. You can use anything you want in an experimental. That's why >it's an experimental. >Why would you suppose you can't? > > > >>Can anybody shed some light on this one ?? >> >> >> >You are required to use TSO'd parts only in certified aircraft, you can >use anything you deem suitable for the task at hand in an experimental. > > > >>Thanks in advance >>Jeff. >> >> >> >Bob McC > > > >> >> >> >> > > > > ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 07:02:13 PM PST US From: Wallace Enga Subject: AeroElectric-List: ANL ring terminal --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Wallace Enga A 5/16" ring terminal fits snuggly around the one I have from B&C. Wally Enga At 09:03 PM 5/2/04 -0400, you wrote: >--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: klehman@albedo.net > >Hi >Would anyone happen to know what size ring terminal fits the ANL fuse >holder. Can't seem to find the spec on the B&C site or the Bussman site. >thanks >Ken > ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 07:54:19 PM PST US Subject: AeroElectric-List: short Vans master relay stud length, again... From: czechsix@juno.com --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: czechsix@juno.com Guys, I know this has come up before...I've got the Vans master relay with the oh-so-short little studs which will barely hold a single terminal let alone the multiple ones that I need (battery lead, e-bus feed, Lightspeed #1, and aux battery feed). Before I toss it in the useless parts bin and order a manly B&C relay on Viagra with a stud size worthy of my 21st Century electrical system, I'm just curious as to why I can't stack the aformentioned terminals directly on the + battery terminal? Seems I recall hearing somewhere that this is bad practice, but can't think of how the physics of the connection would be any different (i.e. less convenient or less secure) this way as opposed to attaching them all to the master relay stud. But I don't have my battery yet (planning Odyssey PC680) so I'm not sure if there are issues I'm unaware of.... Thanks, --Mark Navratil Cedar Rapids, Iowa RV-8A N2D fwf stuff.... ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 09:20:47 PM PST US Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: short Vans master relay stud length, again... From: "Matt Prather" --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Matt Prather" I think its a matter of convenience... During the life of the airplane, you will have to disconnect the battery many times. If the battery lug has a bunch of stacked connecters, you have to wrestle with all of the each time you disconnect the battery. If they are attached to the contactor stud, they can remain in place. Regards, Matt- N34RD > --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: czechsix@juno.com > > Guys, > > I know this has come up before...I've got the Vans master relay with the > oh-so-short little studs which will barely hold a single terminal let > alone the multiple ones that I need (battery lead, e-bus feed, > Lightspeed #1, and aux battery feed). > > Before I toss it in the useless parts bin and order a manly B&C relay on > Viagra with a stud size worthy of my 21st Century electrical system, I'm > just curious as to why I can't stack the aformentioned terminals > directly on the + battery terminal? Seems I recall hearing somewhere > that this is bad practice, but can't think of how the physics of the > connection would be any different (i.e. less convenient or less secure) > this way as opposed to attaching them all to the master relay stud. But > I don't have my battery yet (planning Odyssey PC680) so I'm not sure if > there are issues I'm unaware of.... > > Thanks, > > --Mark Navratil > Cedar Rapids, Iowa > RV-8A N2D fwf stuff.... > > ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 11:46:20 PM PST US Subject: RE: AeroElectric-List: Z-Document to Start From? From: "Scott, Ian" --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Scott, Ian" out of curiosity why 2 computers and also what 2 computers specifically, you may be making a reliable system (the factory ECU) less reliable by replacing it with 2 aftermarket systems, and how are you going to deal with the fact that there are only one spark plug per cylinder? Ian (owner of many a Subaru, though none in a plane) -----Original Message----- From: Kenny Bauman [mailto:kennybauman@yahoo.com] Subject: AeroElectric-List: Z-Document to Start From? --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Kenny Bauman Bob, What Z diagram would you recomend taking a look at for the following: Subaru engine 4 coils (1 per cyl) 4 injectors (1 per cyl) 2 computers 2 batteries 1 alternator I'm thinking it would be nice to have a main bus, essential bus (backup), overvoltage protection, and the ability to tie the batteries together for a "self jump". I'm also thinking that feeding the injector and coil 12 volt feeds from both bus's would be a good idea. Switching the ground leads via a relay board. If this has been discussed please point me to an approximate date and I will try the archives. 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