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Thu 05/20/04


Total Messages Posted: 14



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     1. 05:15 AM - Re: Alarm System (Chuck Jensen)
     2. 07:18 AM - palms and PocketFMS (Joa Harrison)
     3. 08:41 AM - Re: palms and PocketFMS (Steve Thomas)
     4. 12:16 PM - fast on terminal strips (Jim Stone)
     5. 01:14 PM - Re: Making FM Antenna (Charlie)
     6. 02:38 PM - Re: fast on terminal strips (Richard Tasker)
     7. 03:33 PM - Re: fast on terminal strips (N1deltawhiskey@aol.com)
     8. 05:52 PM - Re: Re: Making FM Antenna (Chris Krieg)
     9. 06:00 PM - Re: fast on terminal strips (David Schaefer)
    10. 07:48 PM - Re: Re: Making FM Antenna (Ernest Christley)
    11. 07:51 PM - Re: fast on terminal strips (Jim Stone)
    12. 08:21 PM - Re: Re: Making FM Antenna (MMcs139808@aol.com)
    13. 09:03 PM - Re: Re: Making FM Antenna (Chris Krieg)
    14. 09:41 PM - Re: Alarm System (J. Oberst)
 
 
 


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    Time: 05:15:07 AM PST US
    From: Chuck Jensen <cjensen@dts9000.com>
    Subject: Alarm System
    --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Chuck Jensen <cjensen@dts9000.com> Brian Lloyd wrote... So how are things in Knoxville? ;-) > Chuck > N27GV Exp. Velocity at TYS Man, you really blew my cover. Fortunately, there's a guard tower overlooking my plane and the near-by machine gun nests, so anyone thinking of stocking up on new avionics had better.........bring a cart. I'd hate to see any of my nice radios dropped on the tarmac as you furtively scurry about the ramp. For any low-life that would steal my radios, know that there is a Greater Justice, and they will rot-in-hell---though while there, they will not get lost, they can download weather (forecast; HOT) and will always be in direct communications with Center. Thanks for all the ideas. Chuck -- Brian Lloyd 6501 Red Hook Plaza brianl@lloyd.com Suite 201 http://www.lloyd.com St. Thomas, VI 00802 +1.340.998.9447 (voice) +1.360.838.9669 (fax) There is a time to laud one's country and a time to protest. A good citizen is prepared to do either as the need arises.


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    Time: 07:18:43 AM PST US
    From: Joa Harrison <flyasuperseven@yahoo.com>
    Subject: palms and PocketFMS
    --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Joa Harrison <flyasuperseven@yahoo.com> Has anyone tried PocketFMS (www.pocketfms.com) ? It looks like a *great* idea. Provide a very low cost moving map software package and then have a community of users that continually update it with local waypoints and airport info. Just what the owner-built community needs. If enough people contributed maybe we could get the developers to create artificial horizon (GPS based only) shareware too. Also, I've heard that the Tungsten T3 palm is the best out there for daylight viewing and screen size. Can anyone that owns one of these concur? Joa ---------------------------------


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    Time: 08:41:22 AM PST US
    From: Steve Thomas <lists@stevet.net>
    Subject: Re: palms and PocketFMS
    --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Steve Thomas <lists@stevet.net> Hello Joa, Thursday, May 20, 2004, 7:15:32 AM, you wrote: JH> Also, I've heard that the Tungsten T3 palm is the best out JH> there for daylight viewing and screen size. Can anyone that owns JH> one of these concur? Why would you want a Palm at all for this software? According to their web site: "There is no support for Palm or MIPS, nor will there be." I sure like my Palm Tungsten C - but it won't work with this software. -- Best regards, Steve


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    Time: 12:16:29 PM PST US
    From: "Jim Stone" <jrstone@insightbb.com>
    Subject: fast on terminal strips
    --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Jim Stone" <jrstone@insightbb.com> Can someone give me a steer to a terminal block or strip that uses fast on tabs. Can't find it at B&C, Mouser or Digikey. Thanks, Jim


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    Time: 01:14:28 PM PST US
    From: Charlie <charleyb@earthlink.net>
    Aeroelectric List <aeroelectric-list@matronics.com>
    Subject: Re: Making FM Antenna
    --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Charlie <charleyb@earthlink.net> The neatest and easiest FM antenna I have seen was on Razzmatazz, an award winning RV-6A out of Tampa, FL. The builder used a rubber ducky antenna mounted low on the forward right side of the firewall and extending horizontally into the engine compartment. As I remember, he had a panel mounted AM/FM/CD radio. The pilot reported he got great AM and FM reception. Charlie San Antonio Time: 11:31:48 AM PST US From: SportAV8R@aol.com Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: Making FM Antenna --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: SportAV8R@aol.com In a message dated 5/19/2004 1:06:31 PM Eastern Daylight Time, N27160 writes: > Can anybody send me to a site that might have material on > making a D.I.Y. > flexible wire antenna for a auto type FM radio?


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    Time: 02:38:23 PM PST US
    From: Richard Tasker <retasker@optonline.net>
    Subject: Re: fast on terminal strips
    --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Richard Tasker <retasker@optonline.net> Not sure what you are asking for? Do you mean like the standard terminal/barrier blocks that traditionally use screws? If so, you can get adapters for those that just screw down and which have Faston tabs. Both Mouser and Digikey have the adapters with the terminal strips. For example look at pg 185 of the latest Digikey catalog (or look up A0138-ND on their web site). Additionally, McMaster-Carr (www.mcmaster.com) also has them. As far as I know no one makes a terminal block that only consists of faston connections (but I could be wrong). If this is not want you are referring to, please be more specific in your description. Dick Tasker Jim Stone wrote: >--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Jim Stone" <jrstone@insightbb.com> > >Can someone give me a steer to a terminal block or strip that uses fast on tabs. Can't find it at B&C, Mouser or Digikey. >Thanks, >Jim > >


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    Time: 03:33:00 PM PST US
    From: N1deltawhiskey@aol.com
    Subject: Re: fast on terminal strips
    --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: N1deltawhiskey@aol.com In a message dated 5/20/2004 12:17:41 PM Pacific Daylight Time, jrstone@insightbb.com writes: > Jim Stone" <jrstone@insightbb.com> > > Can someone give me a steer to a terminal block or strip that uses fast on > tabs. Jim, B & C does have the tabs, in 12 pair strips (they solder them to flat brass to make their ground terminal strips). Though not listed in their catalog, I bought some of these a while back at $5 per. You need to request them directly. They can also be shortened to any number of tabs you want. They are not insulated, so you will have to do that. I used a piece of 1/4" thick high density polypropylene plastic. Drilled holes where the tabs were going to go (tab strips had 1/8" holes in them already) then used a piloted drill bit to countersink the hole in the plastic about 1/16" on the side opposite where the tabs would reside (a pop rivet from the plastic side into the strip holds it in place). But before securing the tabs, you need to locate and drill your holes for securing the platic to you metal or fiberglass mounting plate. If you pop rivet through the metal sheet into the plastic strip, you may need to use a washer to keep from pulling the pop rivet through the plastic. Doug Windhorn Doug Windhorn


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    Time: 05:52:32 PM PST US
    From: Chris Krieg <rv6a@mac.com>
    Subject: Re: Making FM Antenna
    --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Chris Krieg <rv6a@mac.com> What is a rubber ducky antenna? On May 20, 2004, at 1:10 PM, Charlie wrote: > --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Charlie > <charleyb@earthlink.net> > > The neatest and easiest FM antenna I have seen was on Razzmatazz, an > award winning RV-6A out of Tampa, FL. The builder used a rubber ducky > antenna mounted low on the forward right side of the firewall and > extending horizontally into the engine compartment. As I remember, he > had a panel mounted AM/FM/CD radio. The pilot reported he got great AM > and FM reception. > > Charlie > San Antonio > > > Time: 11:31:48 AM PST US > From: SportAV8R@aol.com > Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: Making FM Antenna > > --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: SportAV8R@aol.com > > In a message dated 5/19/2004 1:06:31 PM Eastern Daylight Time, N27160 > writes: > >> Can anybody send me to a site that might have material on >> making a D.I.Y. >> flexible wire antenna for a auto type FM radio? > > > _- > ======================================================================= > _- > ======================================================================= > _- > ======================================================================= > _- > ======================================================================= > > > >


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    Time: 06:00:54 PM PST US
    From: "David Schaefer" <dschaefer1@kc.rr.com>
    Subject: fast on terminal strips
    --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "David Schaefer" <dschaefer1@kc.rr.com> Depends on your use. The B&C ones are great for ground ... but I needed strips for the power side at the wing roots. I used strips from Electronic Supply in Kansas City http://eskc.com . These are really cool in that they are a build it yourself tab. You pick the number of connections you need and then you can stack the tabs on top of each other under a central screw to make the connection. One tab on one side for the input and three on the other for an output etc. Regards, David RV6-A Finish Kit. -----Original Message----- From: owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of N1deltawhiskey@aol.com Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: fast on terminal strips --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: N1deltawhiskey@aol.com In a message dated 5/20/2004 12:17:41 PM Pacific Daylight Time, jrstone@insightbb.com writes: > Jim Stone" <jrstone@insightbb.com> > > Can someone give me a steer to a terminal block or strip that uses fast on > tabs. Jim, B & C does have the tabs, in 12 pair strips (they solder them to flat brass to make their ground terminal strips). Though not listed in their catalog, I bought some of these a while back at $5 per. You need to request them directly. They can also be shortened to any number of tabs you want. They are not insulated, so you will have to do that. I used a piece of 1/4" thick high density polypropylene plastic. Drilled holes where the tabs were going to go (tab strips had 1/8" holes in them already) then used a piloted drill bit to countersink the hole in the plastic about 1/16" on the side opposite where the tabs would reside (a pop rivet from the plastic side into the strip holds it in place). But before securing the tabs, you need to locate and drill your holes for securing the platic to you metal or fiberglass mounting plate. If you pop rivet through the metal sheet into the plastic strip, you may need to use a washer to keep from pulling the pop rivet through the plastic. Doug Windhorn Doug Windhorn


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    Time: 07:48:46 PM PST US
    From: Ernest Christley <echristley@nc.rr.com>
    Subject: Re: Making FM Antenna
    --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Ernest Christley <echristley@nc.rr.com> Chris Krieg wrote: > --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Chris Krieg <rv6a@mac.com> > > What is a rubber ducky antenna? > You remember the song: We got a great big convoy Rolling through the night Come on and join our convoy Ain't she a beautiful sight. Rubber ducky antenna was used by one of those guys. -- http://www.ernest.isa-geek.org/ "Ignorance is mankinds normal state, alleviated by information and experience." Veeduber


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    Time: 07:51:59 PM PST US
    From: "Jim Stone" <jrstone@insightbb.com>
    Subject: Re: fast on terminal strips
    --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Jim Stone" <jrstone@insightbb.com> Thanks for your input guys. I don't want to spend time building the strips so I'm thinking the B&C one is out. I do have the ground block for the firewall but need the strips for mostly positive connections. I didn't know that you have to order the standard strip (with screws) and then order the tab as an accessory. So, that tidbit helps a lot. Thanks again. Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Schaefer" <dschaefer1@kc.rr.com> Subject: RE: AeroElectric-List: fast on terminal strips > --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "David Schaefer" <dschaefer1@kc.rr.com> > > Depends on your use. The B&C ones are great for ground ... but I needed > strips for the power side at the wing roots. I used strips from Electronic > Supply in Kansas City http://eskc.com . These are really cool in that they > are a build it yourself tab. You pick the number of connections you need > and then you can stack the tabs on top of each other under a central screw > to make the connection. One tab on one side for the input and three on the > other for an output etc. > > Regards, > > David > > RV6-A > Finish Kit. > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of > N1deltawhiskey@aol.com > To: aeroelectric-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: fast on terminal strips > > --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: N1deltawhiskey@aol.com > > In a message dated 5/20/2004 12:17:41 PM Pacific Daylight Time, > jrstone@insightbb.com writes: > > > Jim Stone" <jrstone@insightbb.com> > > > > Can someone give me a steer to a terminal block or strip that uses fast > on > > tabs. > > Jim, > > B & C does have the tabs, in 12 pair strips (they solder them to flat brass > to make their ground terminal strips). Though not listed in their catalog, > I > bought some of these a while back at $5 per. You need to request them > directly. They can also be shortened to any number of tabs you want. > > They are not insulated, so you will have to do that. I used a piece of 1/4" > > thick high density polypropylene plastic. Drilled holes where the tabs were > > going to go (tab strips had 1/8" holes in them already) then used a piloted > drill bit to countersink the hole in the plastic about 1/16" on the side > opposite > where the tabs would reside (a pop rivet from the plastic side into the > strip > holds it in place). > > But before securing the tabs, you need to locate and drill your holes for > securing the platic to you metal or fiberglass mounting plate. If you pop > rivet > through the metal sheet into the plastic strip, you may need to use a washer > > to keep from pulling the pop rivet through the plastic. > > Doug Windhorn > > > Doug Windhorn > >


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    Time: 08:21:02 PM PST US
    From: MMcs139808@aol.com
    Subject: Re: Making FM Antenna
    --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: MMcs139808@aol.com A short rubber coated antenna as used on industrial wakie talkies eg:Motorola.


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    Time: 09:03:48 PM PST US
    From: Chris Krieg <rv6a@mac.com>
    Subject: Re: Making FM Antenna
    --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Chris Krieg <rv6a@mac.com> Thanks. Chris On May 20, 2004, at 8:17 PM, MMcs139808@aol.com wrote: > --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: MMcs139808@aol.com > > A short rubber coated antenna as used on industrial wakie talkies > eg:Motorola. > > > _- > ======================================================================= > _- > ======================================================================= > _- > ======================================================================= > _- > ======================================================================= > > > >


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    Time: 09:41:11 PM PST US
    From: "J. Oberst" <joberst@cox-internet.com>
    Subject: Re: Alarm System
    --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "J. Oberst" <joberst@cox-internet.com> Chuck, I've put an alarm system in my Glasair. I bought a standard auto system. I hooked up two sensors: a shock sensor, which chirps if the airplane is bumped and sets off the siren if it is hit, and a door open sensor. My door open sensor is a circuit connected through the latches on the two doors; if either door is unlatched, it goes off, and turns on the siren. I also use it as a cockpit annunciator... with my airplane, an open door during flight is a disaster. The system comes with a relay that could also drive the landing lights, but I didn't bother with that. I turn it on when I leave the airplane in the hangar for just the reason you mention... I don't want to lose my avionics. Let the crooks go next door where there is no alarm. Just go to your local auto aftermarket store and pick up a reasonably priced alarm system. Jim Oberst ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chuck Jensen" <cjensen@dts9000.com> Subject: AeroElectric-List: Alarm System > --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Chuck Jensen <cjensen@dts9000.com> > > Is there an alarm system available for exp. aircraft that has been used. I > have a keyed door but, having just installed avionics that has the > equivalent value of the GNP of a developing nation, I'd like to give > potential thieves a better run for their money than some winky door lock. > An audible alarm and potentially activation of strobe and canard flashers > would seem to be a minimu. I assume some "good" solutions have been worked > out but didn't find it in the archives. Ideas? > > Chuck, in East Tennessee > Velocity XLRG > >




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