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1. 10:26 AM - Re: Splitter (Mauri Morin)
2. 10:41 AM - Suggestions for software to create simple wiring diagrams (Greg Reid)
3. 11:34 AM - Re: Suggestions for software to create simple (Chad Robinson)
4. 12:04 PM - Re: Suggestions for software to create simple (Gerry Holland)
5. 12:59 PM - Re: Suggestions for software to create (Robert L. Nuckolls, III)
6. 01:01 PM - Re: Suggestions for software to create (Robert L. Nuckolls, III)
7. 05:01 PM - Re: Splitter (Malcolm Thomson)
8. 08:06 PM - Re: Splitter (Bobby Hester)
9. 08:37 PM - Re: AutoCAD Attachment for Starter Switches (Robert L. Nuckolls, III)
10. 08:44 PM - Re: Splitter (Robert L. Nuckolls, III)
11. 10:13 PM - Re: Splitter (Werner Schneider)
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--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Mauri Morin" <maurv8@bigsky.net>
Mickey,
Take alook at this and see if it will do your job.
http://www.rv-8.com/IdeasProducts.htm#PRODUCT:%20%20King%20Antenna%20Adapter
Mauri Morin\
RV-8 wings/tanks
Polson, Mt
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mickey Billings" <mbilli@cox.net>
Subject: AeroElectric-List: Splitter
> --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Mickey Billings"
<mbilli@cox.net>
>
> Does anyone know of a drawing to build a antenna switcher so I can plug my
> ICOM handheld into the aircraft antenna if needed? The aircraft is a RV7
> (antenna not yet mounted) the radio is a King KX125. Also, any
information
> regarding signal loss due to this device would be appreciated.
>
> Thanks
> Mickey Billings
>
>
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| Subject: | Suggestions for software to create simple wiring diagrams |
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Greg Reid" <AllTheGoodUseridsAreGone@hotmail.com>
Hey folks
I've been keeping my wiring diagrams on paper, with the intent of "one
day" getting them properly recorded for my construction and maintenance
logs. That day is fast approaching, as I've completed my fuselage and
wing wiring (nothing much FWF or panel as yet.)
I know that there are several-hundred-dollar CAD programs that will
certainly do the trick, with plenty of overkill. But what's a cheap and
easy program to use for simple hookup diagrams?
Thanks for any and all suggestions,
Greg Reid ( http://www.divorcemagazine.com/Vision132 )
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| Subject: | Re: Suggestions for software to create simple |
wiring diagrams
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Chad Robinson <crj@lucubration.com>
Greg Reid wrote:
> --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Greg Reid" <AllTheGoodUseridsAreGone@hotmail.com>
>
> Hey folks
>
> I've been keeping my wiring diagrams on paper, with the intent of "one
> day" getting them properly recorded for my construction and maintenance
> logs. That day is fast approaching, as I've completed my fuselage and
> wing wiring (nothing much FWF or panel as yet.)
>
> I know that there are several-hundred-dollar CAD programs that will
> certainly do the trick, with plenty of overkill. But what's a cheap and
> easy program to use for simple hookup diagrams?
Greg, there are inexpensive CAD packages available online, and Bob includes a
few demos (I believe) on his CD if you buy the Aeroelectric book. As another
option, if you have or can get a copy of Visio, I made a stencil set from
Bob's symbols that you can use there. I like Visio because it's easy to learn,
and lines stay connected when you drag symbols around (among other things).
http://www.lucubration.com/aero
Regards,
Chad
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wiring diagrams
| Subject: | Re: Suggestions for software to create simple |
wiring diagrams
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Gerry Holland <gnholland@onetel.com>
Greg Hi!
>>
>> I know that there are several-hundred-dollar CAD programs that will
>> certainly do the trick, with plenty of overkill. But what's a cheap and
>> easy program to use for simple hookup diagrams?
If you are an Apple user especially OSX it might be worth looking at
OmniGraffle Professional from http://www.omnigroup.com. About $89.00
You can try it as a Demo first
Regards
Gerry
Europa 384 G-FIZY
Trigear with Rotax and Arplast CS Prop.
Engine and Prop getting near to starting.
Painting completed. Just vinyl design scheme to be added.
Completing Wiring to Panel.
Includes Dynon EFIS, KMD 150, Icom A-200 and SL70 Transponder.
PSS AoA Fitted.
http://www.g-fizy.com
+44 7808 402404
gnholland@onetel.com
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| Subject: | Re: Suggestions for software to create |
simple wiring diagrams
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Robert L. Nuckolls, III" <rnuckolls@aeroelectric.com>
simple wiring diagrams
At 01:42 PM 7/20/2004 -0400, you wrote:
>--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Greg Reid"
><AllTheGoodUseridsAreGone@hotmail.com>
>
>Hey folks
>
>I've been keeping my wiring diagrams on paper, with the intent of "one
>day" getting them properly recorded for my construction and maintenance
>logs. That day is fast approaching, as I've completed my fuselage and
>wing wiring (nothing much FWF or panel as yet.)
>
>I know that there are several-hundred-dollar CAD programs that will
>certainly do the trick, with plenty of overkill. But what's a cheap and
>easy program to use for simple hookup diagrams?
>
>Thanks for any and all suggestions,
> Greg Reid ( http://www.divorcemagazine.com/Vision132 )
How about free? You can download my CD offering at no
cost from http://www.aeroelectric.com/CD/
There are three cad programs on the CD that will open,
edit, print and save any of the AutoCAD drawings also
included on the CD. There are a couple of wirebooks-in-progress
on the CD. I suspect that 90% or more of your wirebook is
already done. Just download the package and drop by a bookstore
for a used tutorial on one of the cad programs (the AutoCAD LT1.0
is my recommendation).
Bob . . .
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| Subject: | Re: Suggestions for software to create |
simple wiring diagrams
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Robert L. Nuckolls, III" <rnuckolls@aeroelectric.com>
simple wiring diagrams
At 02:31 PM 7/20/2004 -0400, you wrote:
>--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Chad Robinson <crj@lucubration.com>
>
>Greg Reid wrote:
> > --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Greg Reid"
> <AllTheGoodUseridsAreGone@hotmail.com>
> >
> > Hey folks
> >
> > I've been keeping my wiring diagrams on paper, with the intent of "one
> > day" getting them properly recorded for my construction and maintenance
> > logs. That day is fast approaching, as I've completed my fuselage and
> > wing wiring (nothing much FWF or panel as yet.)
> >
> > I know that there are several-hundred-dollar CAD programs that will
> > certainly do the trick, with plenty of overkill. But what's a cheap and
> > easy program to use for simple hookup diagrams?
>
>Greg, there are inexpensive CAD packages available online, and Bob includes a
>few demos (I believe) on his CD if you buy the Aeroelectric book. . .
One doesn't need to buy anything to take advantage of the CD
data package. It's free at:
http://www.aeroelectric.com/CD/
If someone doesn't have access to a high-speed Internet connection,
we'll send a copy out for $10 but that's a nuisance fee . . . has
nothing to do with buying anything else from us.
Similarly, if anyone has copies of the CD via download, purchased,
or handed out at one of our seminars, feel free to duplicate and
distribute the CD to your local builder's community.
Bob . . .
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--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Malcolm Thomson" <mdthomson@attglobal.net>
King makes an adapter for this purpose. KX-99A costs about $55.
Icom also has one IC-ANT-SB about the same price.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Mauri
Morin
Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: Splitter
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Mauri Morin"
--> <maurv8@bigsky.net>
Mickey,
Take alook at this and see if it will do your job.
http://www.rv-8.com/IdeasProducts.htm#PRODUCT:%20%20King%20Antenna%20Ada
pter
Mauri Morin\
RV-8 wings/tanks
Polson, Mt
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mickey Billings" <mbilli@cox.net>
Subject: AeroElectric-List: Splitter
> --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Mickey Billings"
<mbilli@cox.net>
>
> Does anyone know of a drawing to build a antenna switcher so I can
> plug my ICOM handheld into the aircraft antenna if needed? The
> aircraft is a RV7 (antenna not yet mounted) the radio is a King KX125.
> Also, any
information
> regarding signal loss due to this device would be appreciated.
>
> Thanks
> Mickey Billings
>
>
==
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--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Bobby Hester <bhester@hopkinsville.net>
Malcolm Thomson wrote:
>--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Malcolm Thomson" <mdthomson@attglobal.net>
>
>King makes an adapter for this purpose. KX-99A costs about $55.
>Icom also has one IC-ANT-SB about the same price.
>
>
>
These devises brake the connection to the main radio while the hand held
is connected. If you want to be able to use both do you need two
antennas? Can a hand held be wired thru your audio panel as a second radio?
--
Surfing the Web from Hopkinsville, KY
Visit my web site at: http://www.geocities.com/hester-hoptown/RVSite/
RV7A Slowbuild wings-QB Fuse :-)
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| Subject: | Re: AutoCAD Attachment for Starter Switches |
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Robert L. Nuckolls, III" <rnuckolls@aeroelectric.com>
At 04:48 PM 7/13/2004 -0700, you wrote:
>Hi Bob,
>
>Sorry the posting on the Matronics list didn't work; the AutoCAD file is
>attached to this message.
>
>The drawing shows a starter switch scheme I'm considering for my
>project. The idea is
>to have a separate 2-5 toggle switch (Off-On-(Start)) for each magneto. The
>12 volt power for the starter contactor coil comes from the main bus into the
>right mag switch and then to the left mag switch so that when both toggle
>switches
>are held in the top position, three things happen:
>
>1. The right, non-impulse, magneto is grounded.
>
>2. The left, impulse, magneto is not grounded.
>
>3. The starter contactor closes because the coil is energized and the starter
>engages.
>
>This is a modification of Z-11. It seems to me to provide the benefit of
>eliminating
>the need for a pushbutton starter switch. It also seems to provide the
>same benefit; namely, disabling the right mag during start.
>
>Any comments?
I guess I don't see what's driving your "modification" . . . Z-11 doesn't
show or need a separate push-button for starter. The mod you suggest
has the same "disadvantage" as a key-type switch. A rejected start
effort opens the start contacts of the right mag and immediately ungrounds
the right mag making it "hot". IF the mag decides to fire a cylinder (rare
but we think it happens) you get a BTDC ignition and kickback which has been
known to break starter parts.
This is why Figure Z-11 shows starter enabled and right mag grounded through
a switch that is not moved until AFTER the engine is running. I'd recommend
you stay with the published configuration.
Bob . . .
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--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Robert L. Nuckolls, III" <bob.nuckolls@cox.net>
At 10:11 PM 7/20/2004 -0500, you wrote:
>--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Bobby Hester
><bhester@hopkinsville.net>
>
>Malcolm Thomson wrote:
>
> >--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Malcolm Thomson"
> <mdthomson@attglobal.net>
> >
> >King makes an adapter for this purpose. KX-99A costs about $55.
> >Icom also has one IC-ANT-SB about the same price.
> >
> >
> >
>These devises brake the connection to the main radio while the hand held
>is connected. If you want to be able to use both do you need two
>antennas? Can a hand held be wired thru your audio panel as a second radio?
There are no practical duplexers to allow simultaneous
use of a single antenna by two transceivers in airplanes.
The practical approach is to install two antennas or provide
a means for switching the single antenna between radios.
Bob . . .
-----------------------------------------
( Experience and common sense cannot be )
( replaced with policy and procedures. )
( R. L. Nuckolls III )
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--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Werner Schneider" <wernerschneider@compuserve.com>
Hello Bobby,
I have a KX-125 and a Icom A-20 each with his own antenna wired to a GMA 340
audio pannel, however as the Icom is a bit an old radio I did need an
interface box which was designed by joe Fisher from flighttech, I'm happy
using the Icom as a second radio! The newer Icom's however should be able to
be connected directly.
I do have some pictures of this box if needed.
Werner
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bobby Hester" <bhester@hopkinsville.net>
Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: Splitter
> --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Bobby Hester
<bhester@hopkinsville.net>
>
> Malcolm Thomson wrote:
>
> >--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Malcolm Thomson"
<mdthomson@attglobal.net>
> >
> >King makes an adapter for this purpose. KX-99A costs about $55.
> >Icom also has one IC-ANT-SB about the same price.
> >
> >
> >
> These devises brake the connection to the main radio while the hand held
> is connected. If you want to be able to use both do you need two
> antennas? Can a hand held be wired thru your audio panel as a second
radio?
>
> --
> Surfing the Web from Hopkinsville, KY
> Visit my web site at: http://www.geocities.com/hester-hoptown/RVSite/
> RV7A Slowbuild wings-QB Fuse :-)
>
>
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