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1. 04:13 AM - Re: non-adhesive stretchy tape (Jim Jewell)
2. 04:25 AM - Re: non-adhesive stretchy tape (Harley)
3. 04:54 AM - Re: non-adhesive stretchy tape (Harley)
4. 05:08 AM - Re: non-adhesive stretchy tape (Fiveonepw@aol.com)
5. 05:23 AM - Re: non-adhesive stretchy tape (Harley)
6. 06:56 AM - Re: Re: Architecture for 2 batteries (Robert L. Nuckolls, III)
7. 07:00 AM - Re: Wig Wag help on juliet (Robert L. Nuckolls, III)
8. 07:03 AM - Re: non-adhesive stretchy tape (Robert L. Nuckolls, III)
9. 07:32 AM - Re: non-adhesive stretchy tape (Harley)
10. 07:46 AM - E-bus Alternate Feed - Fuse (Clinchy, Dave)
11. 08:08 AM - Re: Elevating the state of our art . . . (Robert L. Nuckolls, III)
12. 08:18 AM - Re: Question about Switches (Robert L. Nuckolls, III)
13. 08:52 PM - Really good deal on silicone rubber tape (Robert L. Nuckolls, III)
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| Subject: | Re: non-adhesive stretchy tape |
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Jim Jewell" <jjewell@telus.net>
Hello Joa,
I have a package of two rolls of tape in front of me that I bought at the
EAA Arlington event. One roll of black and one of white. They threw in a
roll of red as a show special.
Would this be the same stuff you saw at Osh.?
The label says:
"silicone
ATOMIC TAPE
just stretch wrap and go"
"Self bonding- Cutting edge technology- Air tight- Water tight- withstands
700 lb.PSI
Resists 500 degree F.(260 C) insulates 8,000 volts"
Made in USA, each roll 20 mil 1" wide 12" long
The label on the back of the pack says:
RESCUE TAPE (with a trade mark indication)
sales@rescuetape.com
877-847-2628 ~ www.rescuetape.com
www.flyshowproducts.com
They claim to have the highest quality tape of this type publicly available.
They said they where out of California.
Happy wrapping,
Jim in Kelowna
----- Original Message -----
From: "Joa Harrison" <flyasuperseven@yahoo.com>
Subject: AeroElectric-List: non-adhesive stretchy tape
> --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Joa Harrison
<flyasuperseven@yahoo.com>
>
>
> Anybody know the name and maybe a place to buy the stretchy tape that
sticks to itself (really well) without adhesive? They had it on demo at
Oshkosh and it was pretty impressive. Anybody use it for large wire
bundles?
>
>
> Joa
>
>
> ---------------------------------
>
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| Subject: | Re: non-adhesive stretchy tape |
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Harley <harley@agelesswings.com>
Morning, Jim...
After checking out their website www.rescuetape.com I'd have to say that
it is indeed what we've been discussing. I was not aware it came in
colors, though. I've been using the plain ol' gray stuff for about 20
years (first ran into it in a former life as control system designer for
a pharmaceutical company...unique and VERY expensive back then!)
Harley Dixon
Jim Jewell wrote:
>--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Jim Jewell" <jjewell@telus.net>
>
>Hello Joa,
>
>I have a package of two rolls of tape in front of me that I bought at the
>EAA Arlington event. One roll of black and one of white. They threw in a
>roll of red as a show special.
>Would this be the same stuff you saw at Osh.?
>
>The label says:
>"silicone
>ATOMIC TAPE
>just stretch wrap and go"
>
>"Self bonding- Cutting edge technology- Air tight- Water tight- withstands
>700 lb.PSI
>Resists 500 degree F.(260 C) insulates 8,000 volts"
>
>Made in USA, each roll 20 mil 1" wide 12" long
>
>The label on the back of the pack says:
>
>RESCUE TAPE (with a trade mark indication)
>sales@rescuetape.com
>877-847-2628 ~ www.rescuetape.com
>
>www.flyshowproducts.com
>
>They claim to have the highest quality tape of this type publicly available.
>They said they where out of California.
>
>Happy wrapping,
>
>Jim in Kelowna
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Joa Harrison" <flyasuperseven@yahoo.com>
>To: <aeroelectric-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: AeroElectric-List: non-adhesive stretchy tape
>
>
>
>
>>--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Joa Harrison
>>
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><flyasuperseven@yahoo.com>
>
>
>>Anybody know the name and maybe a place to buy the stretchy tape that
>>
>>
>sticks to itself (really well) without adhesive? They had it on demo at
>Oshkosh and it was pretty impressive. Anybody use it for large wire
>bundles?
>
>
>>Joa
>>
>>
>>---------------------------------
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| Subject: | Re: non-adhesive stretchy tape |
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Harley <harley@agelesswings.com>
All...
RE: Silicone Fusible Tape
Been thinking about this tape and did a quick google search...all the
usual electrical houses have it (Radio Shack, Mouser, Newark, etc.) as
well as The Home Depot! Guess it's still pretty expensive, tho...$3.99 a
3 foot roll at the Shack...Home depot has it for $4.99 a roll...didn't
say how long...and the 3M 70 version (which I am familiar with) is $35
for a 30 foot roll.
Good to see it in red and black as well as the gray color I am used to.
Good stuff, though...used it to seal connections and prevent possible
cross contamination of pharmaceutical ingredients when equipment was
used for more than one product.
BTW...you can request a free sample from this manufacturer:
http://www.mocap.com/silicone_tape.asp
I'm not, nor have I ever been, affiliated with any of the above
companies...or any companies at all anymore since I retired! <G>)
Harley
Harley wrote:
>--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Harley <harley@agelesswings.com>
>
>Morning, Jim...
>
>After checking out their website www.rescuetape.com I'd have to say that
>it is indeed what we've been discussing. I was not aware it came in
>colors, though. I've been using the plain ol' gray stuff for about 20
>years (first ran into it in a former life as control system designer for
>a pharmaceutical company...unique and VERY expensive back then!)
>
>Harley Dixon
>
>Jim Jewell wrote:
>
>
>
>>--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Jim Jewell" <jjewell@telus.net>
>>
>>Hello Joa,
>>
>>I have a package of two rolls of tape in front of me that I bought at the
>>EAA Arlington event. One roll of black and one of white. They threw in a
>>roll of red as a show special.
>>Would this be the same stuff you saw at Osh.?
>>
>>The label says:
>>"silicone
>>ATOMIC TAPE
>>just stretch wrap and go"
>>
>>"Self bonding- Cutting edge technology- Air tight- Water tight- withstands
>>700 lb.PSI
>>Resists 500 degree F.(260 C) insulates 8,000 volts"
>>
>>Made in USA, each roll 20 mil 1" wide 12" long
>>
>>The label on the back of the pack says:
>>
>>RESCUE TAPE (with a trade mark indication)
>>sales@rescuetape.com
>>877-847-2628 ~ www.rescuetape.com
>>
>>www.flyshowproducts.com
>>
>>They claim to have the highest quality tape of this type publicly available.
>>They said they where out of California.
>>
>>Happy wrapping,
>>
>>Jim in Kelowna
>>
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: "Joa Harrison" <flyasuperseven@yahoo.com>
>>To: <aeroelectric-list@matronics.com>
>>Subject: AeroElectric-List: non-adhesive stretchy tape
>>
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>>>--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Joa Harrison
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>><flyasuperseven@yahoo.com>
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>>>Anybody know the name and maybe a place to buy the stretchy tape that
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>>sticks to itself (really well) without adhesive? They had it on demo at
>>Oshkosh and it was pretty impressive. Anybody use it for large wire
>>bundles?
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>>>Joa
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>>>---------------------------------
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| Subject: | Re: non-adhesive stretchy tape |
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Fiveonepw@aol.com
In a message dated 8/12/04 12:10:58 PM Central Daylight Time,
dan@rvproject.com writes:
> --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Dan Checkoway" <dan@rvproject.com>
>
>
> Uni-wrap silicone tape.
>
> http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/appages/uniwrap.php
>
> You get better value in the roll from Spruce than you do from B&C.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
I used this stuff with excellent results- also very handy for wrapping around
fuel lines where they are secured to brackets, anti-chafe for scat tube etc.
$30 for 30' roll.
Go to: http://www.mcmaster.com/
and type "76455A35 " into the search window.
From The PossumWorks in TN
Mark -6A
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| Subject: | Re: non-adhesive stretchy tape |
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Harley <harley@agelesswings.com>
Now how could I have forgotten McMaster Carr! Used them all the time
when I was working...just not much since I retired...have to get used to
going to their site first!
Harley
Fiveonepw@aol.com wrote:
>I used this stuff with excellent results- also very handy for wrapping around
>fuel lines where they are secured to brackets, anti-chafe for scat tube etc.
>$30 for 30' roll.
>
>Go to: http://www.mcmaster.com/
>
>and type "76455A35 " into the search window.
>
>>From The PossumWorks in TN
>Mark -6A
>
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| Subject: | Re: Architecture for 2 batteries |
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Robert L. Nuckolls, III" <rnuckolls@aeroelectric.com>
At 09:08 AM 8/11/2004 -0500, you wrote:
>--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Glen Matejcek"
><aerobubba@earthlink.net>
>
>Bob-
>
>What about failure of the power line to the regulator or failure of the
>regulator itself?
Regulators have two options: (1) fail in ov condition whereupon we expect
the ov protection system to take the alternator off line. This generates
an immediate lv condition which we expect to see annunciated by the
lv warning system. (2) fail in a lv condition which immediately illuminates
the lv warning light.
In either case, when the lv condition is noted, one takes steps, depending
on the architecture of the system to bring standby alternators on line
and/or
to manipulate controls so as to minimize loads on batteries such that
comfortable continued flight to intended destination is assured.
There is no reason to be unaware of an alternator failure such that
the event progresses into an electrical emergency.
Bob . . .
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| Subject: | Re: Wig Wag help on juliet |
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Robert L. Nuckolls, III" <rnuckolls@aeroelectric.com>
At 10:09 AM 8/11/2004 -0400, you wrote:
>--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Ken <klehman@albedo.net>
>
>Is there an automotive application (or part number) for such a two way
>flasher that I could look for the next time I'm in the auto wrecker's?
>thanks
>Ken
Virtually every manufacturer that builds automotive flashers
has a part number . . . there are dozens. They're so cheap new,
why take the time to dig around in the junk hoping to find
one that's suited to this task. The biggest driver is that they
be of the sold state timer/high current spdt relay type. You're
not likely to find this in an automobile.
Here's one on Ebay
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=7914574481&category=33710
Bob . .
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| Subject: | Re: non-adhesive stretchy tape |
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Robert L. Nuckolls, III" <rnuckolls@aeroelectric.com>
At 07:54 AM 8/13/2004 -0500, you wrote:
>--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Harley <harley@agelesswings.com>
>
>All...
>
>RE: Silicone Fusible Tape
B&C has 36" rolls for $2.00
Less than the going rate of $1/ft.
See http://bandc.biz/cgi-bin/ez-catalog/cat_display.cgi?9X358218#S894
Bob . . .
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| Subject: | Re: non-adhesive stretchy tape |
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Harley <harley@agelesswings.com>
>>B&C has 36" rolls for $2.00<<
Great!
That's the high temp version, too...some of the lower cost versions are
only rated at 250 deg. F. and 300% stretch ... not sure what the stretch
factor is on this one, (they go up to 800%) but the price and temp are
right!
Harley
Robert L. Nuckolls, III wrote:
>--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Robert L. Nuckolls, III" <rnuckolls@aeroelectric.com>
>
>At 07:54 AM 8/13/2004 -0500, you wrote:
>
>
>
>>--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Harley <harley@agelesswings.com>
>>
>>All...
>>
>>RE: Silicone Fusible Tape
>>
>>
>
> B&C has 36" rolls for $2.00
> Less than the going rate of $1/ft.
>
> See http://bandc.biz/cgi-bin/ez-catalog/cat_display.cgi?9X358218#S894
>
> Bob . . .
>
>
>---
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | E-bus Alternate Feed - Fuse |
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Clinchy, Dave" <clinchd@losrios.edu>
Hi Bob and Listers,
I'm reading the 'Connection and planning my wiring based on your z11
diagram. But I noticed the alternate feed for the E-bus, in drawing z11,
does not show any fuse or fuse link as is shown in the figures in
section 17 that discuss the principles of the e-bus. Am I missing
something?
Thanks
Dave Clinchy
RV7, Trying to learn how to keep the smoke in the wires!
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| Subject: | Re: Elevating the state of our art . . . |
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Robert L. Nuckolls, III" <rnuckolls@aeroelectric.com>
At 11:17 PM 8/11/2004 -0400, you wrote:
>--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Richard E. Tasker"
><retasker@optonline.net>
>
>Point taken. I am sorry. I had assumed that the file was already on
>your site and that you were just pointing it out to the requester,
>assuming that you would have originally saved it in a relatively
>universal format when you put it there in the first place. I should
>have known that you would have gone out of your way to find one and put
>it there when he asked for it - I don't know how you find the time to do
>all you do.
>
>Regarding the others who answered/chastised me, I have not upgraded
>beyond 98 for the simple reason that the newer versions do not do
>anything more that I need. In fact, 98 doesn't do anything more than
>the original LT version that I need. The only reason I have that
>version is because that is what was available when I bought it.
>
>And, yes, I can now read the file just fine.
>
>Thank You,
>
>Dick Tasker
No biggie my friend. I received a couple of direct e-mails
from folks with their shorts in bunch about what they perceived
as an attack on my good will. I reminded them that 99% of strife
in the world is founded on mis-communication and/or ignorance
of simple-ideas. All things considered, I found the incident
delightful. Five or six years ago when I began to offer the
CAD drawings and applications that would edit them, conversation
about utilization of the drawings on the list was VERY rare.
Today were having conversation on CAD topics to discuss which versions
of any particular application are suited to the task! In my mind, this
is a quantum leap forward. If some one jumps on me next week
about using polylines versus solids in the generation of certain
shapes in my drawings, I'll be ecstatic!
I understand and agree about capabilities of various "improvements"
in CAD programs. Nothing I do cannot be accomplished by AutoCAD LT
V1.0 but I've invested $thousands$ in upgrades just to keep lines of
CAD communication open with my customers. It's one of the prices
we pay for progress. I'll suggest inconveniences are minuscule
compared to power that now resides on our desktops. I could not
do 1/10th of what I accomplish without these computers and the
programs they run.
I bought my first computer 15 years ago (Used Kaypro II for
$1700). If someone told me then that by the year 2004 I would
have owned several dozen machines, currently own 8-10 computers
and personally expend $50,000 on computers and software, I would
have accused them suffering several ugly maladies of the gray-
matter. None the less, that prediction would have come to pass.
Further, return on investment has been huge.
Don't give these little kerfuffles much attention. They're
inevitable components of any leading-edge endeavor.
Bob . . .
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| Subject: | Re: Question about Switches |
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Robert L. Nuckolls, III" <rnuckolls@aeroelectric.com>
At 08:36 PM 8/12/2004 -0700, you wrote:
>--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Dennis Johnson"
><pinetownd@volcano.net>
>
>Hi Bob,
>
>In a recent reply about switches, you said:
>
> My personal preference would be a 4 pole, progressive transfer,
> three position toggle which can be wired to provide double-pole,
> three position operation as described in Figure 11-16 of the
> 'Connection (except you have two poles of circuit instead of
> one). A good switch for this task is a ITT-Cannon/CK 7411SYZQE
> which you can also find in Digikey's catalog at:
>
> http://dkc3.digikey.com/PDF/T042/1005.pdf
>
>My question is how could you tell just by looking at the info in the
>catalog that it is a progressive transfer switch? Are all 4 pole, three
>position, switches progressive transfer? Unless a switch comes with your
>standardized numbering system, I'm lost.
Check out Chapter 11 on switches, specifically table 11-1 where
I describe a convention for describing the action of toggle switches.
The convention is a little different in the digikey listing but
still obvious. A 2-10 option is cited as double pole, three position,
on-on-on. The middle "on" implies the progressive transfer action as
opposed to a synchronous transfer switch like a 2-7 where the description
is on-off-on. Compare the 2-10 description with the functionality
described in the switch listing in the Digikey catalog for a 7411
switch.
Digikey does their spring loaded positions a little different. I
use parens around the momentary positions like for a 2-50 switch
having on-on-(on) operation. This same action in a miniature C&K
7413 switch is described as on-on-mom.
Does this help?
Bob . . .
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| Subject: | Really good deal on silicone rubber tape |
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Robert L. Nuckolls, III" <bob.nuckolls@cox.net>
See
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=42891&item=3833440686&rd=1
He has two offerings . . . a lot of ten rolls and another lot of 9 single
rolls. $7 for a 30' roll + $3 shipping is a really good deal.
Bob . . .
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( Experience and common sense cannot be )
( replaced with policy and procedures. )
( R. L. Nuckolls III )
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