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1. 08:17 AM - Re: Really good deal on silicone rubber tape (Robert L. Nuckolls, III)
2. 08:41 AM - Clear Heat Shrink (Records)
3. 08:44 AM - Re: E-bus Alternate Feed - Fuse (Robert L. Nuckolls, III)
4. 09:18 AM - Re: Clear Heat Shrink (Dan Checkoway)
5. 11:21 AM - Electrical failure in flight.... (Mark Doble)
6. 01:07 PM - Re: Clear Heat Shrink (ivorphillips)
7. 01:38 PM - Re: Clear Heat Shrink (Michael D Crowe)
8. 02:05 PM - Re: Clear Heat Shrink (Franz Fux)
9. 05:43 PM - Re: AeroElectric-List Digest: Silicone tape source (Alex Balic)
10. 07:35 PM - Re: Noise filter (Robert L. Nuckolls, III)
11. 07:37 PM - Re: Strobe supply question (Robert L. Nuckolls, III)
12. 09:25 PM - FW: [SoCAL-RVlist] Fw: [lycoming] New Electronic Ignition System and Supplier (DonVS)
13. 09:27 PM - Re: Strobe supply question (Charlie Kuss)
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| Subject: | Re: Really good deal on silicone rubber tape |
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Robert L. Nuckolls, III" <rnuckolls@aeroelectric.com>
At 10:48 PM 8/13/2004 -0500, you wrote:
>--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Robert L. Nuckolls, III"
><bob.nuckolls@cox.net>
>
>See
>
>http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=42891&item=3833440686&rd=1
>
>He has two offerings . . . a lot of ten rolls and another lot of 9 single
>rolls. $7 for a 30' roll + $3 shipping is a really good deal.
Boy, that disappeared fast! I note this morning that all the single
rolls in his offering are sold. You might drop him a not and see if
he has any more.
Bob . . .
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| Subject: | Clear Heat Shrink |
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Records" <records@socal.rr.com>
Does anybody know of a source of clear heat shrink?
Thanks
David
Europa XS Tri-Gear
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of
sjhdcl@kingston.net
Subject: AeroElectric-List: Heat Shrink
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: sjhdcl@kingston.net
Bob,
Do you prefer double walled heat shrink over single walled? I have used
both and lean towards double walled.
Do you know a source for double walled heat shrink in white?
Steve
RV7A
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| Subject: | Re: E-bus Alternate Feed - Fuse |
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Robert L. Nuckolls, III" <rnuckolls@aeroelectric.com>
At 07:45 AM 8/13/2004 -0700, you wrote:
>--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Clinchy, Dave" <clinchd@losrios.edu>
>
>Hi Bob and Listers,
>
>
>I'm reading the 'Connection and planning my wiring based on your z11
>diagram. But I noticed the alternate feed for the E-bus, in drawing z11,
>does not show any fuse or fuse link as is shown in the figures in
>section 17 that discuss the principles of the e-bus. Am I missing
>something?
Something folks need to be aware of for ALL the diagrams in
the 'Connection and in many articles I publish. They are illustrative
and demonstrative of simple-ideas. They are intended to offer
the beginnings of failure tolerant, user friendly systems
with architectures tuned to the perceived mission of the airplane.
They are not intended to be wire-book pages that describe a
bag of parts to buy and install in your airplane. The values
and sizes of things are illustrations only . . . and may need
to be adjusted for your particular installation.
Yes, you are "missing something" . . . you need to sift through
all the simple-ideas offered and select those which apply to
your mission for design and fabrication of your airplane. The
fact that a fuse isn't indicated in some sketch discussing system
architecture doesn't mean that a simple-idea about overload
protection of some feeder at the bus shouldn't be part of your
consideration.
My goal in the production of the 'Connection and companion
website is to offer lots of simple-ideas along with examples
of how each idea can serve your mission. I leave it up to
you to make the final decision about which ideas are gathered
together in satisfaction of YOUR design philosophy for your
airplane. It's okay if this wasn't what you want/need. There
a numerous cook-books and factory suggested wiring diagrams
that service the market for hook-it-up-like-this-and-trust-
me-it-will-work designs. These are largely patterned after
the decades old ideas offered by certified aviation. For many,
if not most OBAM aircraft builders, these approaches
suffice. They've become the devil-we-know component of system
design . . . and that's okay too.
I'm not picking on you Dave . . . just want it to be clear
for yourself and others that the 'Connection, the List and
the website are tailored for folks who want something better-
than-cookbook airplanes. The fact that you noticed the
"discrepancy" in the drawings demonstrates that you were
sufficiently attuned to some simple-ideas that the
variability was noticed and caused you to ask the question.
Good eye!
>Thanks
>
>Dave Clinchy
>
>RV7, Trying to learn how to keep the smoke in the wires!
Given that you bothered to post the question suggests
a high probability of success not just for keeping your
cockpit smoke-free but for having a very user/owner friendly
system for what should be years of enjoyment from your airplane.
Bob . . .
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| Subject: | Re: Clear Heat Shrink |
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Dan Checkoway" <dan@rvproject.com>
McMaster Carr
http://www.mcmaster.com
)_( Dan
----- Original Message -----
From: "Records" <records@socal.rr.com>
Subject: AeroElectric-List: Clear Heat Shrink
> --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Records" <records@socal.rr.com>
>
> Does anybody know of a source of clear heat shrink?
>
> Thanks
>
> David
> Europa XS Tri-Gear
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of
> sjhdcl@kingston.net
> To: aeroelectric-list@matronics.com
> Subject: AeroElectric-List: Heat Shrink
>
>
> --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: sjhdcl@kingston.net
>
> Bob,
>
> Do you prefer double walled heat shrink over single walled? I have used
> both and lean towards double walled.
>
> Do you know a source for double walled heat shrink in white?
>
> Steve
> RV7A
>
>
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| Subject: | Electrical failure in flight.... |
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Mark Doble" <mark.doble@mddesigns.com>
Electrical failure in flight....e-bus works great.
I flew from north east Atlanta to Raleigh on Friday and had a weird
electrical problem. With all the bad weather about it was not a great time
dealing with my electrical issues and flying!
Every few minutes the transponder (Garmin GTX 327) and the engine monitor
(my design) would cycle on/off. Note the Garmin GNS430 never had a
problem..worked great the whole time. The ammeter showed normal load the
voltage @ 14.4 (or at least when I was looking...spent most of the time
trying to avoid weather as I was VFR).
I thought that I had some type of wire short or noise causing these
components to recycle....so once I was out from under class B...i switched
off the transponder and used the engine monitor occasionally to check out
the usual temps, etc...
I finally made it near Raleigh...about 30min out and the low voltage warning
light turned on.....i assume the alternator or voltage reg had failed....i
used my essential bus and shut off the master switch and all was fine. I
had plenty of juice for 2 hours at my ebus load.
What was strange is that I never expected a failure like
that....surges/noise/whatever on the bus for 2 hours and then a failure. I
also heard some static in the headset that got worse..until the total
failure.
The alternator is B&C L-60 and the voltage regulator is a LR3C-14. I'm
using essentially a Z1 electrical system.
What are some good tests to determine the if the voltage reg or alternator
failed....? I know the field voltage @2000rpm should be 4volts< field volt
<8volts.
Very much thanks in advance....
Mark
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| Subject: | Re: Clear Heat Shrink |
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "ivorphillips" <ivor@ivorphillips.flyer.co.uk>
Ivor Phillips
XS486 London UK
> Does anybody know of a source of clear heat shrink?
>
> Thanks
>
> David
> Europa XS Tri-Gear
>
> -----Original Message-----
B&C sell it
http://www.bandcspecialty.com/cgi-bin/ez-catalog/cat_display.cgi?13X358218
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| Subject: | Clear Heat Shrink |
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Michael D Crowe" <rv8a@bellsouth.net>
David,
Try http://www.steinair.com They have it. Nice guy too.
Mike Crowe
RV8A
Does anybody know of a source of clear heat shrink?
Thanks
David
Europa XS Tri-Gear
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| Subject: | Clear Heat Shrink |
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Franz Fux" <franz@lastfrontierheli.com>
B&C also have it in different sizes,
Franz
RV7
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of
Michael D Crowe
Subject: RE: AeroElectric-List: Clear Heat Shrink
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Michael D Crowe"
<rv8a@bellsouth.net>
David,
Try http://www.steinair.com They have it. Nice guy too.
Mike Crowe
RV8A
Does anybody know of a source of clear heat shrink?
Thanks
David
Europa XS Tri-Gear
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| Subject: | RE: AeroElectric-List Digest: Silicone tape source |
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Alex Balic <alex157@direcway.com>
Radio Shack sells it in orange....... Self bonding silicone tape
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| Subject: | Re: Noise filter |
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Robert L. Nuckolls, III" <rnuckolls@aeroelectric.com>
At 02:58 PM 8/12/2004 -0700, you wrote:
>--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Mark Sherman
><msherman95632@yahoo.com>
>
>Good afternoon all.
>
>I am having a problem with strobe noise in the
>headsets. I have searched the archives and tried all
>the fixes. Everything wired per AeroElectric
>Connection.
>
>I have decided to install a choke filter, but the one
>described in Bob's notes will only handle 2.0
>continuous amps. I need at least 8 amps for the
>ValCom 760 I'm using.
>
>Can anyone recommend the size, part numbers and
>supplier for parts to handle the 8 amps?
What tests have you run to demonstrate to yourself that
the noise is coming in through the +14v supply lead
to the ValCom radio? 8A seems pretty big for
the current draw on this radio. Where does that
number come from? Have you measured it yourself
to confirm?
Bob . . .
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| Subject: | Re: Strobe supply question |
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Robert L. Nuckolls, III" <rnuckolls@aeroelectric.com>
At 12:43 PM 8/12/2004 -0400, you wrote:
>--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Charlie Kuss <chaztuna@adelphia.net>
>
>Bob & Listers,
> Is there any "minimum" distance that one should keep between a strobe
>power supply and your intercom wiring? Is this a potential issue? All
>intercom and strobe wiring will be shielded.
If the strobe supply is capable of injecting noise into
adjacent wires, then it will be magnetically coupled and
shielding of the wires probably wouldn't matter. Most folks
can find places for strobe power supplies that are no where
near wires for any other potential vicitim system. Exactly
how close do you NEED to mount it?
I suspect there's no practical requirement for separation.
Give it a try using your current best-wishes situation. The
worst that can happen is that you have to move it later.
Bob . . .
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| Subject: | FW: [SoCAL-RVlist] Fw: [lycoming] New Electronic Ignition |
System and Supplier
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "DonVS" <dsvs@comcast.net>
Bob,
Could you check on this device and comment? I am just about to order my
engine and am looking for input on ignitions. Thanks. Don
-----Original Message-----
From: Dan Checkoway [mailto:dan@rvproject.com]
Subject: [SoCAL-RVlist] Fw: [lycoming] New Electronic Ignition System
and Supplier
http://emagair.com
This may be yet-another-EI, but I do like that the "brain" and coil(s) are
self-contained. It doesn't seem to get much easier to set up.
They even have a self-powered setup...best of both worlds?
http://emagair.com/P-MAGII.htm
)_( Dan
----- Original Message -----
From: "mahlon_r" <mahlon_russell@teledyne.com>
Subject: [lycoming] New Electronic Ignition System and Supplier
> Came across a new supplier of electronic ignition for aircraft engines.
> I am trying to get a system to evaluate but in the mean time I thought
> some of you might be interested in checking out their website:
> http://emagair.com/Intro.htm
> Good Luck,
> Mahlon
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| Subject: | Re: Strobe supply question |
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Charlie Kuss <chaztuna@adelphia.net>
Bob
Thanks for the info. I'd like to mount the power supply under my cockpit
floor for ease of access. It will be about 4 feet from the intercom head
and about 2 feet from the co-pilot's harness (at the nearest point).
Charlie
>--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Robert L. Nuckolls, III"
><rnuckolls@aeroelectric.com>
>
>At 12:43 PM 8/12/2004 -0400, you wrote:
>
> >--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Charlie Kuss
> <chaztuna@adelphia.net>
> >
> >Bob & Listers,
> > Is there any "minimum" distance that one should keep between a strobe
> >power supply and your intercom wiring? Is this a potential issue? All
> >intercom and strobe wiring will be shielded.
>
> If the strobe supply is capable of injecting noise into
> adjacent wires, then it will be magnetically coupled and
> shielding of the wires probably wouldn't matter. Most folks
> can find places for strobe power supplies that are no where
> near wires for any other potential vicitim system. Exactly
> how close do you NEED to mount it?
>
> I suspect there's no practical requirement for separation.
> Give it a try using your current best-wishes situation. The
> worst that can happen is that you have to move it later.
>
> Bob . . .
>
>
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>
>
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