---------------------------------------------------------- AeroElectric-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sat 09/18/04: 11 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 04:17 AM - Re: yellow and blue wires? (LarryRobertHelming) 2. 07:05 AM - Re: yellow and blue wires? (Robert L. Nuckolls, III) 3. 07:48 AM - PIDG terminal sizes (Ken) 4. 11:15 AM - Re: PIDG terminal sizes on juliet (Paul Messinger) 5. 12:43 PM - Wire colors by function (Stanley Blanton) 6. 01:22 PM - Re: Wire colors by function (John Schroeder) 7. 01:56 PM - Re: Wire colors by function (Eric M. Jones) 8. 02:19 PM - RG Batt () 9. 08:45 PM - Re: RG Batt (Bobby Hester) 10. 09:46 PM - Re: RG Batt (Brian Lloyd) 11. 11:22 PM - Re: RG Batt (ALWAYSPDG@aol.com) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 04:17:25 AM PST US From: "LarryRobertHelming" Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: yellow and blue wires? --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "LarryRobertHelming" I bought mine at Radio Shack. Indiana Larry, RV7 TipUp "SunSeeker" The sincerest satisfactions in life come in doing and not dodging duty; in meeting and solving problems, in facing facts, in being a dependable person. - Richard L. Evans ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bobby Hester" Subject: AeroElectric-List: yellow and blue wires? > --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Bobby Hester > > Ok, I know I've seen them on Bob's or B&C's site but I can't find them > anywhere. It's those diodes that go on the Battery and Starter > contactors. I saw them premade for sale, I thought. Where are they? > > -- > Surfing the Web from Hopkinsville, KY > Visit my web site at: http://www.geocities.com/hester-hoptown/RVSite/ > RV7A Slowbuild wings-QB Fuse :-) > > ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 07:05:22 AM PST US From: "Robert L. Nuckolls, III" Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: yellow and blue wires? --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Robert L. Nuckolls, III" At 11:28 PM 9/17/2004 -0500, you wrote: >--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Bobby Hester > > >Ok, I know I've seen them on Bob's or B&C's site but I can't find them >anywhere. It's those diodes that go on the Battery and Starter >contactors. I saw them premade for sale, I thought. Where are they? Why premade? You can get 3A plastic diodes from Radio Shack in blister pak 2/$1 Install terminals and wire as suggested in http://www.aeroelectric.com/temp/s701-1.jpg and/or http://www.aeroelectric.com/temp/s701-2.jpg Bob . . . --- ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 07:48:16 AM PST US From: Ken Subject: AeroElectric-List: PIDG terminal sizes on juliet --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Ken Gentleman Is there any reason not to use the smallest grip PIDG terminal that a wire fits into comfortably even though it is outside the ratings? I've noticed that my 16awg wire fits into red PIDG terminals with room to spare and seems to crimp fine (if not better) even though the larger blue PIDG terminals are spec'd for 16 awg wire. It seems like common sense to use the smaller terminal but I'm new at this... thanks Ken ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 11:15:43 AM PST US From: "Paul Messinger" Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: PIDG terminal sizes on juliet --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Paul Messinger" Interesting you ask. The AMP PIDG Terminals are listed as 22-18 for aircraft and 22-16 for commercial. As long as you use Tefzel insulation I have found no problems doing what you suggest. Meets my pull test with My crimpers. Paul ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ken" Subject: AeroElectric-List: PIDG terminal sizes on juliet > --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Ken > > Gentleman > > Is there any reason not to use the smallest grip PIDG terminal that a > wire fits into comfortably even though it is outside the ratings? I've > noticed that my 16awg wire fits into red PIDG terminals with room to > spare and seems to crimp fine (if not better) even though the larger > blue PIDG terminals are spec'd for 16 awg wire. It seems like common > sense to use the smaller terminal but I'm new at this... > > thanks > Ken > > ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 12:43:24 PM PST US From: "Stanley Blanton" Subject: AeroElectric-List: Wire colors by function --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Stanley Blanton" Is there a standard that wires should (or could) be color coded to by function? The availability of different colors of tefzel wires now seems to make this a little easier to do. I have looked at MIL-STD-681D but I don't see where it would apply much in small aircraft. Stan Blanton ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 01:22:21 PM PST US Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: Wire colors by function From: "John Schroeder" --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "John Schroeder" Stan I have not seen a standard for aircraft. However, other "modern electrical systems" like cars and computers seem to have one. It is one heck of a lot easier to use color than some complex labelling system in an all-white-wire electrical installation. We are wiring our Lancair ES with colored wire. The trim system is far easier to do and track if you use orange, blue and green wires to mate up with the wires on the Ray Allen servos, relay decks. etc. I wire 22 awg 22759/16 green wire to their & white and so on. I'm using black for all ground wires because some of the sensors use the following wiring: Red = power, black = ground and white = signal. All of our power wires for solenoids and voltage regulators will be red. Yellow is also used for power to mate up with a device that has yellow for its power input. If you need colored Tefzel 22759 in 22 thru 12 AWG, contact Deb Sullivan at WireMasters. They have the best prices by far. 22 AWG is 5 cents a foot. They sell in 100 foot minimums, except for 2 and 4 AWG. There is a $50 minimum order. Their number is: 800 635-5342 Cheers, John > Is there a standard that wires should (or could) be color coded to by > function? > ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 01:56:40 PM PST US From: "Eric M. Jones" Subject: AeroElectric-List: Re: Wire colors by function --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Eric M. Jones" --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Stanley Blanton" >is there a standard that wires should (or could) be color coded to by function? Stan, What a good question! Certainly there are more color codes than colors, and there are a zillion special codes used for Blasting, Telephones, etc. but there are some things that engineers consider standard practices First the household wiring (There are codes for these) Function North American International Hot Black Brown Neutral White Blue Earth (Ground) Green Green with yellow stripe DC Battery stuff (Codes...What's a code?) Positive Red Negative Black Ground (Not necessarily negative!) green or green/yellow stripes There really aren't any official function-color correspondences other than these. Generally speaking use the red, black and green as above, and make your own codes. And always remember when defusing bombs, cut the green wire first....or is it the blue wire? Regards, Eric M. Jones www.PerihelionDesign.com 113 Brentwood Drive Southbridge MA 01550-2705 Phone (508) 764-2072 Email: emjones@charter.net ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 02:19:47 PM PST US From: Subject: AeroElectric-List: RG Batt --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: I just found that the RG battery in my Beech was discharged down to 5 volts since putting it the hangar 3 weeks ago. [ Gee! Wonder how that could have happened? Take pity and don't answer.] The problem now is that it does not want to take a charge. What is the proper way to re-charge a seriously depleted RG batt? Thanks for any advice. Jim ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 08:45:54 PM PST US From: Bobby Hester Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: RG Batt --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Bobby Hester jimk36@comcast.net wrote: >--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: > >I just found that the RG battery in my Beech was discharged down to 5 volts since putting it the hangar 3 weeks ago. [ Gee! Wonder how that could have happened? Take pity and don't answer.] > >The problem now is that it does not want to take a charge. What is the proper way to re-charge a seriously depleted RG batt? > >Thanks for any advice. > >Jim > > I not sure but my best guess would be to discharge your wallet :-) -- Surfing the Web from Hopkinsville, KY Visit my web site at: http://www.geocities.com/hester-hoptown/RVSite/ RV7A Slowbuild wings-QB Fuse :-) ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 09:46:36 PM PST US From: Brian Lloyd Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: RG Batt --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Brian Lloyd On Sep 18, 2004, at 11:47 PM, Bobby Hester wrote: >> The problem now is that it does not want to take a charge. What is >> the proper way to re-charge a seriously depleted RG batt? Find and use a constant-current charger to get the battery up to standard potential. Brian Lloyd 6501 Red Hook Plaza brianl@lloyd.com Suite 201 +1.340.998.9447 St. Thomas, VI 00802 ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 11:22:28 PM PST US From: ALWAYSPDG@aol.com Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: RG Batt --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: ALWAYSPDG@aol.com I would try the "Battery Tender". It has worked for me in the past. It charges at a very low amperage and is fully automatic. Here is the website for more info. _http://www.batterytender.com/_ (http://www.batterytender.com/) Mike