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1. 12:43 AM - Re: Cheap terminal crimper (Olivier Le Carbonnier)
2. 12:48 AM - Re: Crimpers (william mills)
3. 06:07 AM - Crimpers (Glaeser, Dennis A)
4. 08:37 AM - Instrument wiring (Charlie Brame)
5. 08:37 AM - Avg Power Consumption (Tinne maha)
6. 09:14 AM - Re: Avg Power Consumption (Scott Bilinski)
7. 09:40 AM - Crimpers ()
8. 03:54 PM - Re: AeroElectric-List Digest: 21 Msgs - 10/05/04 (Frankhsmit@wmconnect.com)
9. 04:51 PM - Re: 9V Power supply (Frankhsmit@wmconnect.com)
10. 07:03 PM - Re: Re: 9V Power supply (Tim Olson)
11. 10:09 PM - Re: Crimpers (Guy Buchanan)
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| Subject: | Cheap terminal crimper |
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Olivier Le Carbonnier" <olcdlm@laposte.net>
i got the same crimper by Steinair.
Olivier
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[mailto:owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com]De la part de
glaesers
Envoy : mardi 5 octobre 2004 03:32
: AeroElectric-List@matronics.com
Objet : AeroElectric-List: Cheap terminal crimper
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "glaesers"
<glaesers@wideopenwest.com>
I was browsing on eBay and found the following wire crimper - an OTC-4497
"Stinger" for $19. It looks very similar to the tool on the B&C website.
I then did a Google search on the part number - hoping for more info - found
the second link but the same description.
Has anyone used one of these crimpers? Any chance these will make good
crimps on PIDG terminals??
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=31483&item=3843657281
&rd=1
also
http://www.ntxtools.com/Merchant/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=01&Prod
uct_Code=OTC-4497&Category_Code=251
Thanks,
Dennis Glaeser
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--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: william mills <courierboy@earthlink.net>
Guy -
Here's Bob's shop notes comparing two crimpers:
http://www.aeroelectric.com/articles/CrimpTools/crimptools.html
Bill
>--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Guy Buchanan <bnn@nethere.com>
>
>Hi all!
> I purchased Bob Ducar's Kitfox IV a little while back. Bob had nearly
>finished it; only the wiring was left to do. I'm working on that now. (Yes,
>I've got Bob Nucholls' book and will be installing his Z-17 system pretty
>much as drawn.) Unfortunately that leads me to raise a subject probably
>already discussed to death, even though I couldn't find much in the
>archives. I want to use some PIDG FASTONs and other PIDG connectors and
>need a crimp tool. I found Bob Nucholl's on B&C for $40. I checked on the
>AMP site and they said I had to use their ~$350 TETRA-CRIMP for PIDG
>FASTONs. I called them and asked why I couldn't use the ~$66 PRO-CRIMPER II
>and they said that the resulting crimps would not meet CSA (?) approval,
>even though the PRO-CRIMPER is approved for all other PIDG terminals and
>splices. I'd like to do it right, but am I getting entirely too anal? Maybe
>I should buy the expensive one and donate it to the local EAA chapter?
>
>Guy Buchanan
>K-IV 1200 w/ 582.
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--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Glaeser, Dennis A" <dennis.glaeser@eds.com>
Guy,
I found the same crimpers on the B&C site for less than $20 on the web:
eBay (may not be there anymore):
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=31483&item=3843657281
&rd=1
Also that vendor's website:
http://www.ntxtools.com/Merchant/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=01&Prod
uct_Code=OTC-4497&Category_Code=251
Or do a Google or eBay search for 'OTC-4497' or 'wire crimper'.
Whatever you get, your local EAA chapter would, I'm sure, appreciate the
donation. Alternatively, you can sell things on eBay to recoup some costs
when you are done ...
Good luck!
Dennis Glaeser
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From: Guy Buchanan <bnn@nethere.com>
Subject: AeroElectric-List: Crimpers
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Guy Buchanan <bnn@nethere.com>
Hi all!
I purchased Bob Ducar's Kitfox IV a little while back. Bob had
nearly
finished it; only the wiring was left to do. I'm working on that now. (Yes,
I've got Bob Nucholls' book and will be installing his Z-17 system pretty
much as drawn.) Unfortunately that leads me to raise a subject probably
already discussed to death, even though I couldn't find much in the
archives. I want to use some PIDG FASTONs and other PIDG connectors and
need a crimp tool. I found Bob Nucholl's on B&C for $40. I checked on the
AMP site and they said I had to use their ~$350 TETRA-CRIMP for PIDG
FASTONs. I called them and asked why I couldn't use the ~$66 PRO-CRIMPER II
and they said that the resulting crimps would not meet CSA (?) approval,
even though the PRO-CRIMPER is approved for all other PIDG terminals and
splices. I'd like to do it right, but am I getting entirely too anal? Maybe
I should buy the expensive one and donate it to the local EAA chapter?
Guy Buchanan
K-IV 1200 w/ 582.
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| Subject: | Instrument wiring |
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Charlie Brame <Charleyb@earthlink.net>
I recently installed a MD40-67 GPS CDI in my instrument panel. The
pinout shows three separate 14 VDC power leads to the instrument;
however, no amperage information is provided. Can I connect all three
leads to the same fuzed power source or should each lead be separately
powered and fuzed? I have queried MidContinent about the wiring, but
have received no answers.
Charlie Brame
RV-6A N11CB
San Antonio
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| Subject: | Avg Power Consumption |
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Tinne maha" <tinnemaha@hotmail.com>
Hello Listers,
In an attempt to size my alternator appropriately I am trying to find out average
current consumption for a few different components. I have called the manufacturers
directly, but for the most part they only give me maximum current values
for their devices. Can anyone help or direct me to a reliable source?
Specifically I'm looking for average current values for a King KT-76A transponder
a Garmin GNC 250 XL GPS/Com.
I would like very much to put a BC 20 amp, vacuum pad driven alternator in my O-235
powered Kitfox, but the current values I have are adding up to about 19 amps
or so. I feel like (20-19)=1 amp is too thin a margin of error. Besides, my
friend's mustang replica only runs about 15 amps according to him, so my 19
amps seems real high. Anyadvice?
The only rule of thumb I've been told about sizing an alternatoris the sum of continuous
loads should not exceed 80% of rated alternator output. Sounds good
to me. Are there other guidelines commonly used?
Any input will be appreciated. Thanks,
Grant Krueger
Rock, jazz, country, soul & more. Find the music you love on MSN Music!
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| Subject: | Re: Avg Power Consumption |
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Scott Bilinski <bilinski@kyocera-wireless.com>
With Dual EI, 1 gyro, 1 radio, 1 transponder, and a VM-1000, I run 6~8 amps
continuous. Turn on position lights,boost pump,strobes and I am over 20 amps
At 08:34 AM 10/6/2004 -0700, you wrote:
>--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Tinne maha" <tinnemaha@hotmail.com>
>
>Hello Listers,
>
>In an attempt to size my alternator appropriately I am trying to find out
>average current consumption for a few different components. I have called
>the manufacturers directly, but for the most part they only give me
>maximum current values for their devices. Can anyone help or direct me to
>a reliable source?
>
>Specifically I'm looking for average current values for a King KT-76A
>transponder a Garmin GNC 250 XL GPS/Com.
>
>I would like very much to put a BC 20 amp, vacuum pad driven alternator in
>my O-235 powered Kitfox, but the current values I have are adding up to
>about 19 amps or so. I feel like (20-19)=1 amp is too thin a margin of
>error. Besides, my friend's mustang replica only runs about 15 amps
>according to him, so my 19 amps seems real high. Anyadvice?
>
>The only rule of thumb I've been told about sizing an alternatoris the sum
>of continuous loads should not exceed 80% of rated alternator output.
>Sounds good to me. Are there other guidelines commonly used?
>
> Any input will be appreciated. Thanks,
> Grant Krueger
> Rock, jazz, country, soul & more. Find the music you love on MSN Music!
>
>
Scott Bilinski
Eng dept 305
Phone (858) 657-2536
Pager (858) 502-5190
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--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: <bakerocb@cox.net>
AeroElectric-List message previously posted by: Guy Buchanan <bnn@nethere.com>
<<SKIPI want to use some PIDG FASTONs and other PIDG connectors and need a crimp
tool. I found Bob Nucholl's on B&C for $40. I checked on
the AMP site and they said I had to use their ~$350 TETRA-CRIMP for PIDG
FASTONs. I called them and asked why I couldn't use the ~$66 PRO-
CRIMPER II and they said that the resulting crimps would not meet CSA (?)
approval, even though the PRO-CRIMPER is approved for all other PIDG terminals
and splices. I'd like to do it right, but am I getting entirely too anal?
Maybe I should buy the expensive one and donate it to the local EAA chapter? Guy
Buchanan>>
10/6/2004
Hello Guy, You raise two interesting questions:
(1)Do the PIDG Faston connectors require different crimping than other forms of
PIDG connectors?
(2)What particular CSA (Canadian Standards Association) standard says that the
answer to the previous question is yes (at least in the Canadians minds) and why
do they say so?
You seem like the kind of person that would want to know the answers to those two
questions. Can we leave it in your good hands to pursue the answers and inform
us?
OC
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| Subject: | Re: AeroElectric-List Digest: 21 Msgs - 10/05/04 |
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Frankhsmit@wmconnect.com
In a message dated 10/6/04 2:57:08 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
aeroelectric-list-digest@matronics.com writes:
> 6. 10:00 AM - 9 v power supply (czechsix@juno.com)
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| Subject: | Re: 9V Power supply |
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Frankhsmit@wmconnect.com
I have been using the Headsets Inc conversion with a single 9V power supply
for two years with no problems. The power supply, if you can call it that is a
positive fixed VR, with input of 10 to 20 V, and fixed output of 9V. It
could be just this one component, but I put a 100 mike condenser across the output
in deference to their stable requirements. It supplies both headsets, and
also a recorder of the audio, that will repeat the last 45 seconds, in case you
are wondering what ATC really said. I can't tell any difference in operation
now and when I was using two 9V batteries. Can't imagine why a separate
supply is needed for each headset. The VR cost $1.49. FWIW Frank
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| Subject: | Re: 9V Power supply |
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
While you're correct that this would give you the proper voltage,
it doesn't accomplish the same thing as what you get when they
sell their jacks to you. Those are isolated.
The circuit that I used was something like this:
The 3-pin regulator providing 12V regulated power to the input of
a DC/DC converter. They sell you individual DC/DC converters
per headset jack. I purchased a MicroPower Direct B1200RU 12W
Ultra-Wide input Range Single and Dual Output DC/DC converter.
Then I regulated the output to 9V. It was all so that I'd have
"sacrificial" components (there was a fuse in there too), so
that you could short it out and not affect either the headset,
or the rest of the airplane wiring. I knew it was overkill
when I built it, but they are using DC/DC converters, and I'm
sure they don't do it just so they can sell them to you, so
I did it that way too. All in all, I should have just bought
the jacks they sold. My cost wasn't too far away from what
their parts were.
Tim
Frankhsmit@wmconnect.com wrote:
> --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Frankhsmit@wmconnect.com
>
> I have been using the Headsets Inc conversion with a single 9V power supply
> for two years with no problems. The power supply, if you can call it that is
a
> positive fixed VR, with input of 10 to 20 V, and fixed output of 9V. It
> could be just this one component, but I put a 100 mike condenser across the output
> in deference to their stable requirements. It supplies both headsets, and
> also a recorder of the audio, that will repeat the last 45 seconds, in case you
> are wondering what ATC really said. I can't tell any difference in operation
> now and when I was using two 9V batteries. Can't imagine why a separate
> supply is needed for each headset. The VR cost $1.49. FWIW Frank
>
>
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--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Guy Buchanan <bnn@nethere.com>
Well, I was hoping someone would have found out long ago, but if not I will
track it down. I had good success reaching technical support at AMP and I'm
sure they have the answer. I'll let the list know what I find.
Guy
At 12:40 PM 10/6/2004 -0400, you wrote:
>You seem like the kind of person that would want to know the answers to
>those two questions. Can we leave it in your good hands to pursue the
>answers and inform us?
>
>OC
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