AeroElectric-List Digest Archive

Sat 10/16/04


Total Messages Posted: 5



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     1. 04:59 AM - Re: Potter and Brumfield (D Fritz)
     2. 07:28 AM - Re: Potter and Brumfield (Robert L. Nuckolls, III)
     3. 08:14 AM - Genesis Switches (Larry Bowen)
     4. 09:53 PM - ADF sense antenna (Scott Jackson)
     5. 10:24 PM - Re: ADF sense antenna (Brian Lloyd)
 
 
 


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    Time: 04:59:32 AM PST US
    From: D Fritz <dfritzj@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: Potter and Brumfield
    --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: D Fritz <dfritzj@yahoo.com> "W31 are a whole lot more expensive than a simple switch. The only rational thought process for using them would be to eliminate the need for another breaker on the bus . . . but of course, using these switches forces you to have two busses - one for the breakers that don't "switch" and one for the switches that "break" Are you planning a breaker panel for non-switched functions?" Bob, I'm still on the fence between fuses and breakers, but it seems to me that using the W31 breakers for my switched loads (about a dozen), I avoid making jumpers from a fuse block (or circuit breaker) to a switch. This reduces the number of connections to fail as well as the parts count. Is there any reason the switched versus unswitched breakers can't be on the same bus? I would think one could arrange them in a fashion that allowed both to attach to the same bus and still allow adequate access to the breakers and the switches. Dan Fritz


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    Time: 07:28:07 AM PST US
    From: "Robert L. Nuckolls, III" <b.nuckolls@cox.net>
    Subject: Re: Potter and Brumfield
    --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Robert L. Nuckolls, III" <b.nuckolls@cox.net> At 04:58 AM 10/16/2004 -0700, you wrote: >--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: D Fritz <dfritzj@yahoo.com> > >"W31 are a whole lot more expensive than a simple switch. The only > rational thought process for using them would be to eliminate the > need for another breaker on the bus . . . but of course, using > these switches forces you to have two busses - one for the breakers > that don't "switch" and one for the switches that "break" > > Are you planning a breaker panel for non-switched functions?" > >Bob, >I'm still on the fence between fuses and breakers, but it seems to me that >using the W31 breakers for my switched loads (about a dozen), I avoid >making jumpers from a fuse block (or circuit breaker) to a switch. This >reduces the number of connections to fail as well as the parts count. Don't forget the parts count INSIDE the components. See: http://www.aeroelectric.com/Pictures/W31_1.jpg It becomes a trade off on your confidence for installing terminals (fast-ons at that) on two ends of a piece of wire versus your confidence that all that monkey motion inside the switch offers a superior solution for system reliability. > Is there any reason the switched versus unswitched breakers can't be on > the same bus? No, but generally the cockpit is arranged so that pilot controls (switches) are in front of pilot and maintenance controls (breakers) are more remote, like on sidewalls or far right side. It's all driven by your panel real estate budgets and ergonomics. Bob . . . ---


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    Time: 08:14:02 AM PST US
    From: "Larry Bowen" <Larry@BowenAero.com>
    Subject: Genesis Switches
    --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Larry Bowen" <Larry@BowenAero.com> Doh! - Larry Bowen Larry@BowenAero.com http://BowenAero.com Do not archive Backward drawings may be behind spacecraft crash LOS ANGELES - The fragile NASA spacecraft that smashed into the Utah desert last month as it brought home samples of the sun may have been doomed by engineering drawings that had been done backward, an investigating board said yesterday. Because of the backward drawings, the switches that were supposed to detect Genesis' re-entry into Earth's atmosphere and trigger its parachutes were placed incorrectly, said Michael G. Ryschkewitsch, the chairman of the board. He said, however, that the panel has not completed its findings on what went wrong with the $264 million mission to capture particles of the solar wind. The design drawings were produced by Lockheed Martin Astronautics, which built Genesis for NASA, Ryschkewitsch said.


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    Time: 09:53:37 PM PST US
    From: "Scott Jackson" <jayeandscott@telus.net>
    Subject: ADF sense antenna
    --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Scott Jackson" <jayeandscott@telus.net> Gentlemen: It looks like at least one of my four teenagers will train for their instrument rating in our RV-6. It already has a navcom with glidepath and I have a Narco ADF 140 that I'd like to put in, if only temporarily. But the ADF came with both a shoe antenna and the long wire sense antenna, which would be hard to mount on an RV-6. How would it work without the sense antenna, if at all? Is there an aftermarket combination antenna that I could use? I'm aware that ADF appears to be going the way of the do-do bird, but, in Canada, GPS can only be used for overlay approaches if the aircraft is equipped with the original receivers the approach required. Scott in Vancouver


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    Time: 10:24:41 PM PST US
    From: Brian Lloyd <brianl@lloyd.com>
    Subject: Re: ADF sense antenna
    --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Brian Lloyd <brianl@lloyd.com> > But the ADF came with both a shoe antenna and the long wire sense > antenna, which would be hard to mount on an RV-6. > How would it work without the sense antenna, if at all? It won't work. > Is there an aftermarket combination antenna that I could use? For the Narco? I don't think so. Both the KR-86 and KR-87 had a combined loop/sense antenna. Brian Lloyd 6501 Red Hook Plaza brianl@lloyd.com Suite 201 +1.340.998.9447 St. Thomas, VI 00802 I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things . . . Antoine de Saint-Exupry




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