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Sun 11/14/04


Total Messages Posted: 23



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     1. 12:14 AM - Re: Re: 406 Mhz GPS ELT (Mickey Coggins)
     2. 03:17 AM - AW: Rotax 914, dual alt (Europa (Alfred Buess))
     3. 04:28 AM - ELT's (John Fulp)
     4. 06:24 AM - Re: Re: 406 Mhz GPS ELT (Ken)
     5. 07:17 AM - Re: [Bulk] Re: 406 Mhz GPS ELT (D Fritz)
     6. 07:39 AM - smaller fast-on connectors for microswitches (Mickey Coggins)
     7. 09:46 AM - Re: smaller fast-on connectors for microswitches (Richard E. Tasker)
     8. 09:51 AM - Re: smaller fast-on connectors for microswitches (Robert McCallum)
     9. 11:52 AM - AOA ()
    10. 12:43 PM - Re: smaller fast-on connectors for microswitches (N1deltawhiskey@aol.com)
    11. 12:59 PM - Re: smaller fast-on connectors for (Robert L. Nuckolls, III)
    12. 01:05 PM - Re: AW: Rotax 914, dual alt (Robert L. Nuckolls, III)
    13. 01:06 PM - Re: smaller fast-on connectors for (Mickey Coggins)
    14. 03:24 PM - Collins 331H-3G CDI Pinout? (NEMuzzy)
    15. 04:29 PM - Re: AW: Rotax 914, dual alt (Jim Stone)
    16. 05:25 PM - Shunt with essential bus (Mitch Faatz)
    17. 05:38 PM - Re: Shunt with essential bus (Matt Prather)
    18. 06:21 PM - Re: Shunt with essential bus (Walter Tondu)
    19. 07:08 PM - Re: Shunt with essential bus (Mitch Faatz)
    20. 08:49 PM - Re: smaller fast-on connectors for (Robert L. Nuckolls, III)
    21. 08:50 PM - Re: Shunt with essential bus (Robert L. Nuckolls, III)
    22. 08:52 PM - Re: Shunt with essential bus (Robert L. Nuckolls, III)
    23. 09:20 PM - Re: Shunt with essential bus (Mitch Faatz)
 
 
 


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    Time: 12:14:01 AM PST US
    From: Mickey Coggins <mick-matronics@rv8.ch>
    Subject: Re: RE: 406 Mhz GPS ELT
    --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Mickey Coggins <mick-matronics@rv8.ch> >> Beyond that, I would carry a handheld Comm unit and a handheld >> GPS in a small emergency bag that could be easily removed from the >> aircraft. > >And don't forget a cell phone. Seems lately there are news reports of >stranded people in really remote areas able to use a cell phone to >call 911. The GPS is key. There was a crash recently in the hills of Oregon where the guys survived the crash, called 911, and it still took them over 10 hours to be found. One died in the meantime. >The gov't couldn't prove aircraft ELT's save hardly anybody. I >searched many years of the NTSB database, and could not find many >cases where an ELT assisted search much at all, much less an actual >"save." If the Feds can home in on a low power pirate radio station in about 15 minutes, it seems like if they wanted to, they should be able to find an ELT that is actually designed to be found. Not sure why this does not seem to be the case. -- Mickey Coggins http://www.rv8.ch/ #82007 QB Wings/Fuselage _-===================================================================== _-_-= -- Please Support Your Lists This Month -- _-= (And Get Some AWESOME FREE Gifts!) _-_-= November is the Annual List Fund Raiser. Click on the _-= Contribution link below to find out more about this _-= year's Terrific Free Incentive Gifts provided by the _-= The Builder's Bookstore www.buildersbooks.com! _-_-= List Contribution Web Site _-_-= http://www.matronics.com/contribution _-_-= Thank you for your generous support! _-= -Matt Dralle, List Admin. _-_-===================================================================== _-= - The AeroElectric-List Email Forum - _-= This forum is sponsored entirely through the Contributions _-= of List members. You'll never see banner ads or any other _-= form of direct advertising on the Matronics Forums. _-===================================================================== _-= List Related Information _-= Post Message: aeroelectric-list@matronics.com _-= UN/SUBSCRIBE: http://www.matronics.com/subscription _-= List FAQ: http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/AeroElectric-List.htm _-= Search Engine: http://www.matronics.com/search _-= 7-Day Browse: http://www.matronics.com/browse/aeroelectric-list _-= Browse Digests: http://www.matronics.com/digest/aeroelectric-list _-= Live List Chat: http://www.matronics.com/chat _-= Archives: http://www.matronics.com/archives _-= Photo Share: http://www.matronics.com/photoshare _-= List Specific: http://www.matronics.com/aeroelectric-list _-= Other Lists: http://www.matronics.com/emaillists _-= Trouble Report http://www.matronics.com/trouble-report _-= Contributions: http://www.matronics.com/contribution _-=====================================================================


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    Time: 03:17:50 AM PST US
    From: "Europa (Alfred Buess)" <ykibuess@bluewin.ch>
    Subject: Rotax 914, dual alt
    --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Europa (Alfred Buess)" <ykibuess@bluewin.ch> Manuel, The electrical system of my Europa XS (not yet flying) with a Rotax 912S is based on two alternators working in parallel if the power consumtion needs it. The setpoint of the regulator for the Rotax alternator is set at 14.3 V, the setpoint of the regulator for the vacuum drive pad alternator (a SD-8 in my case) is set at 13.8 V. If the power consumption exceeds the output of the Rotax alternator, the bus voltage will fall below 14.3 V and at 13.8 V the SD-8 will come alive. This means the SD-8 works more like a boost alternator than an emergency alternator. If you are interested, I could send you a CAD-file (.dwg) of my electrical system. Alfred Alfred Buess Laenggasse 81, CH-3052 Zollikofen, Switzerland Tel.: +41 (0)31 911 63 32, Fax: +41 (0)31 911 56 32 E-Mail: ykibuess@bluewin.ch Europa XS #097, Monowheel, Foam shortwing, Rotax 912S, Airmaster 332 CS --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "manuel bonniot" --> <mbonniot@hotmail.com> Hi Bob and all I am working on a Dyn Aero MCR 4S, to be equipped for IFR flying (ad-hoc avionics, pitot heat...), powered by a Rotax 914 (electrically dependant). I know the Rotax alt won't deliver enough power for all my stuff. So I need to add a second alternator. I don't have enough room in the cowling to put a belt driven one, so my only reasonable option is the SD 20. With the vacuum pump pad turning at 0.54 the engine rpm, it could nearly deliver 20 amp at 5200 RPM, which is not so bad. Well, I studied all your wiring diagrams in appendix Z, and none consider using the rotax alternator, a second alternator running permanently, and 1 battery. I realise the Z-14 is best of the best, but I'd really rather have only 1 battery. The Z-16, with the 2nd alt wired as per Z-13 would fit my needs, but what about the compatibility of both alt running at same time ? Is it possible to keep the OV module on the Rotax alt, and also benefit from the LR3 OV protection ? If an OV occurs, how to know from which regulator it comes ? Finally, what kind of wiring diagram seems to you to be most appropriate to my situation ? Thanks in advance for your help Manuel Bonniot Luxembourg _-===================================================================== _-_-= -- Please Support Your Lists This Month -- _-= (And Get Some AWESOME FREE Gifts!) _-_-= November is the Annual List Fund Raiser. Click on the _-= Contribution link below to find out more about this _-= year's Terrific Free Incentive Gifts provided by the _-= The Builder's Bookstore www.buildersbooks.com! _-_-= List Contribution Web Site _-_-= http://www.matronics.com/contribution _-_-= Thank you for your generous support! _-= -Matt Dralle, List Admin. _-_-===================================================================== _-= - The AeroElectric-List Email Forum - _-= This forum is sponsored entirely through the Contributions _-= of List members. You'll never see banner ads or any other _-= form of direct advertising on the Matronics Forums. _-===================================================================== _-= List Related Information _-= Post Message: aeroelectric-list@matronics.com _-= UN/SUBSCRIBE: http://www.matronics.com/subscription _-= List FAQ: http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/AeroElectric-List.htm _-= Search Engine: http://www.matronics.com/search _-= 7-Day Browse: http://www.matronics.com/browse/aeroelectric-list _-= Browse Digests: http://www.matronics.com/digest/aeroelectric-list _-= Live List Chat: http://www.matronics.com/chat _-= Archives: http://www.matronics.com/archives _-= Photo Share: http://www.matronics.com/photoshare _-= List Specific: http://www.matronics.com/aeroelectric-list _-= Other Lists: http://www.matronics.com/emaillists _-= Trouble Report http://www.matronics.com/trouble-report _-= Contributions: http://www.matronics.com/contribution _-=====================================================================


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    Time: 04:28:25 AM PST US
    From: "John Fulp" <jrfulp@ncia.net>
    Subject: ELT's
    --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "John Fulp" <jrfulp@ncia.net> These ELT's are FAA-FCC-TSO-C91a approved. Some have panel mounted on/off and are much less expensive. Hope this helps. http://store.wagaero.com John _-===================================================================== _-_-= -- Please Support Your Lists This Month -- _-= (And Get Some AWESOME FREE Gifts!) _-_-= November is the Annual List Fund Raiser. Click on the _-= Contribution link below to find out more about this _-= year's Terrific Free Incentive Gifts provided by the _-= The Builder's Bookstore www.buildersbooks.com! _-_-= List Contribution Web Site _-_-= http://www.matronics.com/contribution _-_-= Thank you for your generous support! _-= -Matt Dralle, List Admin. _-_-===================================================================== _-= - The AeroElectric-List Email Forum - _-= This forum is sponsored entirely through the Contributions _-= of List members. You'll never see banner ads or any other _-= form of direct advertising on the Matronics Forums. _-===================================================================== _-= List Related Information _-= Post Message: aeroelectric-list@matronics.com _-= UN/SUBSCRIBE: http://www.matronics.com/subscription _-= List FAQ: http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/AeroElectric-List.htm _-= Search Engine: http://www.matronics.com/search _-= 7-Day Browse: http://www.matronics.com/browse/aeroelectric-list _-= Browse Digests: http://www.matronics.com/digest/aeroelectric-list _-= Live List Chat: http://www.matronics.com/chat _-= Archives: http://www.matronics.com/archives _-= Photo Share: http://www.matronics.com/photoshare _-= List Specific: http://www.matronics.com/aeroelectric-list _-= Other Lists: http://www.matronics.com/emaillists _-= Trouble Report http://www.matronics.com/trouble-report _-= Contributions: http://www.matronics.com/contribution _-=====================================================================


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    Time: 06:24:29 AM PST US
    From: Ken <klehman@albedo.net>
    Subject: Re: RE: 406 Mhz GPS ELT
    clamav-milter version 0.80j on juliet.albedo.net --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Ken <klehman@albedo.net> Yup, unless something dramatic has happened in the last couple of decades, there is likely still a high probability that the closest units/aircraft dispatched to investigate an ELT do not have VHF direction finding equipment. Politicians want a response for the press. A successful rescue is secondary. Add in the probability of poor weather for a visual search, how large the search area is, and the life of ELT batteries, and you can begin to see why the GPS coordinates can be so important. Too often it takes more than a day to find a wreck only a couple of miles from the runway in non-urban areas. There have certainly been cases where the ELT's value was many hours sooner notice of a crash and narrowing the search are dramatically, but the coordinates are still key to a rescue. For controlling search costs alone, you can bank on having to buy a 406 mhz gps enabled ELT fairly soon! Ken Mickey Coggins wrote: >--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Mickey Coggins <mick-matronics@rv8.ch> > > > >>>Beyond that, I would carry a handheld Comm unit and a handheld >>>GPS in a small emergency bag that could be easily removed from the >>>aircraft. >>> >>> >>And don't forget a cell phone. Seems lately there are news reports of >>stranded people in really remote areas able to use a cell phone to >>call 911. >> >> > >The GPS is key. There was a crash recently in the hills of Oregon >where the guys survived the crash, called 911, and it still >took them over 10 hours to be found. One died in the meantime. > > > >>The gov't couldn't prove aircraft ELT's save hardly anybody. I >>searched many years of the NTSB database, and could not find many >>cases where an ELT assisted search much at all, much less an actual >>"save." >> >> > >If the Feds can home in on a low power pirate radio station >in about 15 minutes, it seems like if they wanted to, they >should be able to find an ELT that is actually designed to >be found. Not sure why this does not seem to be the case. > >-- > >Mickey Coggins >http://www.rv8.ch/ >#82007 QB Wings/Fuselage > > _-===================================================================== _-_-= -- Please Support Your Lists This Month -- _-= (And Get Some AWESOME FREE Gifts!) _-_-= November is the Annual List Fund Raiser. Click on the _-= Contribution link below to find out more about this _-= year's Terrific Free Incentive Gifts provided by the _-= The Builder's Bookstore www.buildersbooks.com! _-_-= List Contribution Web Site _-_-= http://www.matronics.com/contribution _-_-= Thank you for your generous support! _-= -Matt Dralle, List Admin. _-_-===================================================================== _-= - The AeroElectric-List Email Forum - _-= This forum is sponsored entirely through the Contributions _-= of List members. You'll never see banner ads or any other _-= form of direct advertising on the Matronics Forums. _-===================================================================== _-= List Related Information _-= Post Message: aeroelectric-list@matronics.com _-= UN/SUBSCRIBE: http://www.matronics.com/subscription _-= List FAQ: http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/AeroElectric-List.htm _-= Search Engine: http://www.matronics.com/search _-= 7-Day Browse: http://www.matronics.com/browse/aeroelectric-list _-= Browse Digests: http://www.matronics.com/digest/aeroelectric-list _-= Live List Chat: http://www.matronics.com/chat _-= Archives: http://www.matronics.com/archives _-= Photo Share: http://www.matronics.com/photoshare _-= List Specific: http://www.matronics.com/aeroelectric-list _-= Other Lists: http://www.matronics.com/emaillists _-= Trouble Report http://www.matronics.com/trouble-report _-= Contributions: http://www.matronics.com/contribution _-=====================================================================


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    Time: 07:17:25 AM PST US
    DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; b=v4IWbN12X7nAQq5MiL5Fxx408NiikXqVs4TACA/U1luQGL8TDI2cJ9Hm6QTJWhd5Sag/mp4HQwEA91QKCqiAiA6xeSH2A/4D3C7Pjz8u+dwFm6cCdc9YYJcEh49WNI+nXr95ZyhRQVEaqoroonP74Vwo4XpbDszjGEYmSwtMRMo= ;
    From: D Fritz <dfritzj@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: [Bulk] RE: 406 Mhz GPS ELT
    --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: D Fritz <dfritzj@yahoo.com> > >Since I was sworn to absolute secrecy on this, I only posted it on my >website. But this looks like the ticket. Prices (I hope) soon. > >http://www.periheliondesign.com/AeroFix%20FCC%20Approved.pdf Looks like a very interesting device, indeed. Please keep us posted when they put out a price for it. Since the price of "approved" 406MHz ELTs probably won't come down for quite some time, and since the old 121.5 ELTs are so rarely useful in effecting survivor recoveries, I think I'll just get a unit similar to the above as well as an inexpensive (relative) 121.5 ELT and just activate the 406 unit prior to any off-airport landing. Alternatively, I'm sure some enterprising EE could hack into one of the non-approved 406 units and devise a G-activated switch to turn it on. I'd be an interested customer for something like this. The advantages of of transmitting a GPS position on a 406 unit seem clear to me. The quicker they can find me (should the need arise) the better I feel Dan Fritz --------------------------------- _-===================================================================== _-_-= -- Please Support Your Lists This Month -- _-= (And Get Some AWESOME FREE Gifts!) _-_-= November is the Annual List Fund Raiser. Click on the _-= Contribution link below to find out more about this _-= year's Terrific Free Incentive Gifts provided by the _-= The Builder's Bookstore www.buildersbooks.com! _-_-= List Contribution Web Site _-_-= http://www.matronics.com/contribution _-_-= Thank you for your generous support! _-= -Matt Dralle, List Admin. _-_-===================================================================== _-= - The AeroElectric-List Email Forum - _-= This forum is sponsored entirely through the Contributions _-= of List members. You'll never see banner ads or any other _-= form of direct advertising on the Matronics Forums. _-===================================================================== _-= List Related Information _-= Post Message: aeroelectric-list@matronics.com _-= UN/SUBSCRIBE: http://www.matronics.com/subscription _-= List FAQ: http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/AeroElectric-List.htm _-= Search Engine: http://www.matronics.com/search _-= 7-Day Browse: http://www.matronics.com/browse/aeroelectric-list _-= Browse Digests: http://www.matronics.com/digest/aeroelectric-list _-= Live List Chat: http://www.matronics.com/chat _-= Archives: http://www.matronics.com/archives _-= Photo Share: http://www.matronics.com/photoshare _-= List Specific: http://www.matronics.com/aeroelectric-list _-= Other Lists: http://www.matronics.com/emaillists _-= Trouble Report http://www.matronics.com/trouble-report _-= Contributions: http://www.matronics.com/contribution _-=====================================================================


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    Time: 07:39:26 AM PST US
    From: Mickey Coggins <mick-matronics@rv8.ch>
    Subject: smaller fast-on connectors for microswitches
    --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Mickey Coggins <mick-matronics@rv8.ch> Hi Listers, I've got a Omron microswitch for my AOA flap sensor, and it has some tabs that look like of like faston tabs, but they are a bit smaller. Can anyone suggest a place where I can buy some of these terminals? I tried slogging through the digikey website, but if you don't know exactly what you want there, you're hosed. Is it possible that these 0.187" (3/16"?) terminals are the right size? http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/elpages/pidg.php Many thanks, Mickey -- Mickey Coggins http://www.rv8.ch/ #82007 QB Wings/Fuselage _-===================================================================== _-_-= -- Please Support Your Lists This Month -- _-= (And Get Some AWESOME FREE Gifts!) _-_-= November is the Annual List Fund Raiser. Click on the _-= Contribution link below to find out more about this _-= year's Terrific Free Incentive Gifts provided by the _-= The Builder's Bookstore www.buildersbooks.com! _-_-= List Contribution Web Site _-_-= http://www.matronics.com/contribution _-_-= Thank you for your generous support! _-= -Matt Dralle, List Admin. _-_-===================================================================== _-= - The AeroElectric-List Email Forum - _-= This forum is sponsored entirely through the Contributions _-= of List members. You'll never see banner ads or any other _-= form of direct advertising on the Matronics Forums. _-===================================================================== _-= List Related Information _-= Post Message: aeroelectric-list@matronics.com _-= UN/SUBSCRIBE: http://www.matronics.com/subscription _-= List FAQ: http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/AeroElectric-List.htm _-= Search Engine: http://www.matronics.com/search _-= 7-Day Browse: http://www.matronics.com/browse/aeroelectric-list _-= Browse Digests: http://www.matronics.com/digest/aeroelectric-list _-= Live List Chat: http://www.matronics.com/chat _-= Archives: http://www.matronics.com/archives _-= Photo Share: http://www.matronics.com/photoshare _-= List Specific: http://www.matronics.com/aeroelectric-list _-= Other Lists: http://www.matronics.com/emaillists _-= Trouble Report http://www.matronics.com/trouble-report _-= Contributions: http://www.matronics.com/contribution _-=====================================================================


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    Time: 09:46:11 AM PST US
    From: "Richard E. Tasker" <retasker@optonline.net>
    Subject: Re: smaller fast-on connectors for microswitches
    --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Richard E. Tasker" <retasker@optonline.net> Those are certainly all the standard faston sizes. You have to either look at the switch datasheet or carefully measure the switch tabs to determine which (if any) are suitable. To choose the correct part you have to determine: 1. the width of the tabs 2. the thickness of the tabs 3. the wire size to be used Dick Tasker Mickey Coggins wrote: >--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Mickey Coggins <mick-matronics@rv8.ch> > >Hi Listers, > >I've got a Omron microswitch for my AOA flap sensor, >and it has some tabs that look like of like faston >tabs, but they are a bit smaller. > >Can anyone suggest a place where I can buy some of >these terminals? I tried slogging through the >digikey website, but if you don't know exactly what >you want there, you're hosed. > >Is it possible that these 0.187" (3/16"?) terminals are the >right size? > > http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/elpages/pidg.php > >Many thanks, >Mickey > >-- >Mickey Coggins >http://www.rv8.ch/ >#82007 QB Wings/Fuselage > > >_-===================================================================== >_->_-= -- Please Support Your Lists This Month -- >_-= (And Get Some AWESOME FREE Gifts!) >_->_-= November is the Annual List Fund Raiser. Click on the >_-= Contribution link below to find out more about this >_-= year's Terrific Free Incentive Gifts provided by the >_-= The Builder's Bookstore www.buildersbooks.com! >_->_-= List Contribution Web Site >_->_-= http://www.matronics.com/contribution >_->_-= Thank you for your generous support! >_-= -Matt Dralle, List Admin. >_->_-===================================================================== >_-= - The AeroElectric-List Email Forum - >_-= This forum is sponsored entirely through the Contributions >_-= of List members. You'll never see banner ads or any other >_-= form of direct advertising on the Matronics Forums. >_-===================================================================== >_-= List Related Information >_-= Post Message: aeroelectric-list@matronics.com >_-= UN/SUBSCRIBE: http://www.matronics.com/subscription >_-= List FAQ: http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/AeroElectric-List.htm >_-= Search Engine: http://www.matronics.com/search >_-= 7-Day Browse: http://www.matronics.com/browse/aeroelectric-list >_-= Browse Digests: http://www.matronics.com/digest/aeroelectric-list >_-= Live List Chat: http://www.matronics.com/chat >_-= Archives: http://www.matronics.com/archives >_-= Photo Share: http://www.matronics.com/photoshare >_-= List Specific: http://www.matronics.com/aeroelectric-list >_-= Other Lists: http://www.matronics.com/emaillists >_-= Trouble Report http://www.matronics.com/trouble-report >_-= Contributions: http://www.matronics.com/contribution >_-===================================================================== > > > > _-===================================================================== _-_-= -- Please Support Your Lists This Month -- _-= (And Get Some AWESOME FREE Gifts!) _-_-= November is the Annual List Fund Raiser. Click on the _-= Contribution link below to find out more about this _-= year's Terrific Free Incentive Gifts provided by the _-= The Builder's Bookstore www.buildersbooks.com! _-_-= List Contribution Web Site _-_-= http://www.matronics.com/contribution _-_-= Thank you for your generous support! _-= -Matt Dralle, List Admin. _-_-===================================================================== _-= - The AeroElectric-List Email Forum - _-= This forum is sponsored entirely through the Contributions _-= of List members. You'll never see banner ads or any other _-= form of direct advertising on the Matronics Forums. _-===================================================================== _-= List Related Information _-= Post Message: aeroelectric-list@matronics.com _-= UN/SUBSCRIBE: http://www.matronics.com/subscription _-= List FAQ: http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/AeroElectric-List.htm _-= Search Engine: http://www.matronics.com/search _-= 7-Day Browse: http://www.matronics.com/browse/aeroelectric-list _-= Browse Digests: http://www.matronics.com/digest/aeroelectric-list _-= Live List Chat: http://www.matronics.com/chat _-= Archives: http://www.matronics.com/archives _-= Photo Share: http://www.matronics.com/photoshare _-= List Specific: http://www.matronics.com/aeroelectric-list _-= Other Lists: http://www.matronics.com/emaillists _-= Trouble Report http://www.matronics.com/trouble-report _-= Contributions: http://www.matronics.com/contribution _-=====================================================================


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    Time: 09:51:24 AM PST US
    From: Robert McCallum <robert.mccallum2@sympatico.ca>
    Subject: Re: smaller fast-on connectors for microswitches
    --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Robert McCallum <robert.mccallum2@sympatico.ca> Mickey; It's possible. All you have to do is check the width and thickness of the tabs you have, with a vernier calliper, micrometer or like instrument and compare the measurements you get with the chart you linked to. When you find a connector with matching dimensions and the wire size you desire, you've found the right one. This is the reason the chart you show gives the width and thickness dimensions of the tab the connector is designed to work with. Hope this clarifies the problem for you Bob McC Mickey Coggins wrote: >Hi Listers, > >I've got a Omron microswitch for my AOA flap sensor, >and it has some tabs that look like of like faston >tabs, but they are a bit smaller. > >Is it possible that these 0.187" (3/16"?) terminals are the >right size? > > http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/elpages/pidg.php > >Many thanks, >Mickey > > _-===================================================================== _-_-= -- Please Support Your Lists This Month -- _-= (And Get Some AWESOME FREE Gifts!) _-_-= November is the Annual List Fund Raiser. Click on the _-= Contribution link below to find out more about this _-= year's Terrific Free Incentive Gifts provided by the _-= The Builder's Bookstore www.buildersbooks.com! _-_-= List Contribution Web Site _-_-= http://www.matronics.com/contribution _-_-= Thank you for your generous support! _-= -Matt Dralle, List Admin. _-_-===================================================================== _-= - The AeroElectric-List Email Forum - _-= This forum is sponsored entirely through the Contributions _-= of List members. You'll never see banner ads or any other _-= form of direct advertising on the Matronics Forums. _-===================================================================== _-= List Related Information _-= Post Message: aeroelectric-list@matronics.com _-= UN/SUBSCRIBE: http://www.matronics.com/subscription _-= List FAQ: http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/AeroElectric-List.htm _-= Search Engine: http://www.matronics.com/search _-= 7-Day Browse: http://www.matronics.com/browse/aeroelectric-list _-= Browse Digests: http://www.matronics.com/digest/aeroelectric-list _-= Live List Chat: http://www.matronics.com/chat _-= Archives: http://www.matronics.com/archives _-= Photo Share: http://www.matronics.com/photoshare _-= List Specific: http://www.matronics.com/aeroelectric-list _-= Other Lists: http://www.matronics.com/emaillists _-= Trouble Report http://www.matronics.com/trouble-report _-= Contributions: http://www.matronics.com/contribution _-=====================================================================


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    Time: 11:52:54 AM PST US
    From: <bakerocb@cox.net>
    Subject: AOA
    --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: <bakerocb@cox.net> From: "Olivier Le Carbonnier" <olcdlm@laposte.net> Subject: RE: AeroElectric-List: Stall Horn << ....skip....The difference is that our AOA works....skip....>> 11/14/2004 Hello Olivier, Would you please identify which AOA is *ours* and where to get some information on it? Thanks, OC _-===================================================================== _-_-= -- Please Support Your Lists This Month -- _-= (And Get Some AWESOME FREE Gifts!) _-_-= November is the Annual List Fund Raiser. Click on the _-= Contribution link below to find out more about this _-= year's Terrific Free Incentive Gifts provided by the _-= The Builder's Bookstore www.buildersbooks.com! _-_-= List Contribution Web Site _-_-= http://www.matronics.com/contribution _-_-= Thank you for your generous support! _-= -Matt Dralle, List Admin. _-_-===================================================================== _-= - The AeroElectric-List Email Forum - _-= This forum is sponsored entirely through the Contributions _-= of List members. You'll never see banner ads or any other _-= form of direct advertising on the Matronics Forums. _-===================================================================== _-= List Related Information _-= Post Message: aeroelectric-list@matronics.com _-= UN/SUBSCRIBE: http://www.matronics.com/subscription _-= List FAQ: http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/AeroElectric-List.htm _-= Search Engine: http://www.matronics.com/search _-= 7-Day Browse: http://www.matronics.com/browse/aeroelectric-list _-= Browse Digests: http://www.matronics.com/digest/aeroelectric-list _-= Live List Chat: http://www.matronics.com/chat _-= Archives: http://www.matronics.com/archives _-= Photo Share: http://www.matronics.com/photoshare _-= List Specific: http://www.matronics.com/aeroelectric-list _-= Other Lists: http://www.matronics.com/emaillists _-= Trouble Report http://www.matronics.com/trouble-report _-= Contributions: http://www.matronics.com/contribution _-=====================================================================


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    Time: 12:43:00 PM PST US
    From: N1deltawhiskey@aol.com
    Subject: Re: smaller fast-on connectors for microswitches
    --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: N1deltawhiskey@aol.com Mickey, I am using a similar switch to detect flap position, also an Omron with 3/16" tabs. FWIW, I found suitable fast-ons for 20-22 ga wire at the local Napa store. Doug Windhorn In a message dated 11/14/2004 7:40:01 AM Pacific Standard Time, mick-matronics@rv8.ch writes: > Hi Listers, > > I've got a Omron microswitch for my AOA flap sensor, > and it has some tabs that look like of like faston > tabs, but they are a bit smaller. > > Can anyone suggest a place where I can buy some of > these terminals? I tried slogging through the > digikey website, but if you don't know exactly what > you want there, you're hosed. > > Is it possible that these 0.187" (3/16"?) terminals are the > right size? > > http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/elpages/pidg.php > > Many thanks, > Mickey _-===================================================================== _-_-= -- Please Support Your Lists This Month -- _-= (And Get Some AWESOME FREE Gifts!) _-_-= November is the Annual List Fund Raiser. Click on the _-= Contribution link below to find out more about this _-= year's Terrific Free Incentive Gifts provided by the _-= The Builder's Bookstore www.buildersbooks.com! _-_-= List Contribution Web Site _-_-= http://www.matronics.com/contribution _-_-= Thank you for your generous support! _-= -Matt Dralle, List Admin. _-_-===================================================================== _-= - The AeroElectric-List Email Forum - _-= This forum is sponsored entirely through the Contributions _-= of List members. You'll never see banner ads or any other _-= form of direct advertising on the Matronics Forums. _-===================================================================== _-= List Related Information _-= Post Message: aeroelectric-list@matronics.com _-= UN/SUBSCRIBE: http://www.matronics.com/subscription _-= List FAQ: http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/AeroElectric-List.htm _-= Search Engine: http://www.matronics.com/search _-= 7-Day Browse: http://www.matronics.com/browse/aeroelectric-list _-= Browse Digests: http://www.matronics.com/digest/aeroelectric-list _-= Live List Chat: http://www.matronics.com/chat _-= Archives: http://www.matronics.com/archives _-= Photo Share: http://www.matronics.com/photoshare _-= List Specific: http://www.matronics.com/aeroelectric-list _-= Other Lists: http://www.matronics.com/emaillists _-= Trouble Report http://www.matronics.com/trouble-report _-= Contributions: http://www.matronics.com/contribution _-=====================================================================


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    Time: 12:59:23 PM PST US
    From: "Robert L. Nuckolls, III" <b.nuckolls@cox.net> microswitches
    Subject: Re: smaller fast-on connectors for
    microswitches --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Robert L. Nuckolls, III" <b.nuckolls@cox.net> microswitches At 04:15 PM 11/14/2004 +0100, you wrote: >--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Mickey Coggins ><mick-matronics@rv8.ch> > >Hi Listers, > >I've got a Omron microswitch for my AOA flap sensor, >and it has some tabs that look like of like faston >tabs, but they are a bit smaller. > >Can anyone suggest a place where I can buy some of >these terminals? I tried slogging through the >digikey website, but if you don't know exactly what >you want there, you're hosed. > >Is it possible that these 0.187" (3/16"?) terminals are the >right size? Here's the Digikey page with all the PIDG Fast-On terminals: http://dkc3.digikey.com/PDF/T043/0196.pdf Most basic switches ("microswitches") use the .187 (3/16") size (AMP 640917-1) Bob . . . _-===================================================================== _-_-= -- Please Support Your Lists This Month -- _-= (And Get Some AWESOME FREE Gifts!) _-_-= November is the Annual List Fund Raiser. Click on the _-= Contribution link below to find out more about this _-= year's Terrific Free Incentive Gifts provided by the _-= The Builder's Bookstore www.buildersbooks.com! _-_-= List Contribution Web Site _-_-= http://www.matronics.com/contribution _-_-= Thank you for your generous support! _-= -Matt Dralle, List Admin. _-_-===================================================================== _-= - The AeroElectric-List Email Forum - _-= This forum is sponsored entirely through the Contributions _-= of List members. You'll never see banner ads or any other _-= form of direct advertising on the Matronics Forums. _-===================================================================== _-= List Related Information _-= Post Message: aeroelectric-list@matronics.com _-= UN/SUBSCRIBE: http://www.matronics.com/subscription _-= List FAQ: http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/AeroElectric-List.htm _-= Search Engine: http://www.matronics.com/search _-= 7-Day Browse: http://www.matronics.com/browse/aeroelectric-list _-= Browse Digests: http://www.matronics.com/digest/aeroelectric-list _-= Live List Chat: http://www.matronics.com/chat _-= Archives: http://www.matronics.com/archives _-= Photo Share: http://www.matronics.com/photoshare _-= List Specific: http://www.matronics.com/aeroelectric-list _-= Other Lists: http://www.matronics.com/emaillists _-= Trouble Report http://www.matronics.com/trouble-report _-= Contributions: http://www.matronics.com/contribution _-=====================================================================


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    Time: 01:05:37 PM PST US
    From: "Robert L. Nuckolls, III" <b.nuckolls@cox.net>
    Subject: Re: Rotax 914, dual alt
    --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Robert L. Nuckolls, III" <b.nuckolls@cox.net> At 12:16 PM 11/14/2004 +0100, you wrote: >--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Europa (Alfred Buess)" ><ykibuess@bluewin.ch> > >Manuel, > >The electrical system of my Europa XS (not yet flying) with a Rotax 912S >is based on two alternators working in parallel if the power consumtion >needs it. The setpoint of the regulator for the Rotax alternator is set >at 14.3 V, the setpoint of the regulator for the vacuum drive pad >alternator (a SD-8 in my case) is set at 13.8 V. If the power >consumption exceeds the output of the Rotax alternator, the bus voltage >will fall below 14.3 V and at 13.8 V the SD-8 will come alive. This >means the SD-8 works more like a boost alternator than an emergency >alternator. If you are interested, I could send you a CAD-file (.dwg) of >my electrical system. > >Alfred To my knowledge, there are no vacuum-pump, pad-driven alternators that will produce useful amounts of snort on the 912/914 series engines. Their pads are just too slow. Didn't somebody on the list point us to a successful belt driven add-on to the Rotax in a Europa? I seem to recall having seen photos. >I am working on a Dyn Aero MCR 4S, to be equipped for IFR flying (ad-hoc > >avionics, pitot heat...), powered by a Rotax 914 (electrically >dependant). I know the Rotax alt won't deliver enough power for all my >stuff. So I need >to add a second alternator. I don't have enough room in the cowling to >put a >belt driven one, so my only reasonable option is the SD 20. With the >vacuum >pump pad turning at 0.54 the engine rpm, it could nearly deliver 20 amp >at >5200 RPM, which is not so bad. This puts your pad at which is 2800. The pad on a lycoming or continental runs at 1.25 to 1.4 of crankshaft which is about 3200 RPM where the SD-20 is rated. Further, I'm not sure the SD-20 fits the Rotax. Have you discussed this with B&C? Bob . . . _-===================================================================== _-_-= -- Please Support Your Lists This Month -- _-= (And Get Some AWESOME FREE Gifts!) _-_-= November is the Annual List Fund Raiser. Click on the _-= Contribution link below to find out more about this _-= year's Terrific Free Incentive Gifts provided by the _-= The Builder's Bookstore www.buildersbooks.com! _-_-= List Contribution Web Site _-_-= http://www.matronics.com/contribution _-_-= Thank you for your generous support! _-= -Matt Dralle, List Admin. _-_-===================================================================== _-= - The AeroElectric-List Email Forum - _-= This forum is sponsored entirely through the Contributions _-= of List members. You'll never see banner ads or any other _-= form of direct advertising on the Matronics Forums. _-===================================================================== _-= List Related Information _-= Post Message: aeroelectric-list@matronics.com _-= UN/SUBSCRIBE: http://www.matronics.com/subscription _-= List FAQ: http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/AeroElectric-List.htm _-= Search Engine: http://www.matronics.com/search _-= 7-Day Browse: http://www.matronics.com/browse/aeroelectric-list _-= Browse Digests: http://www.matronics.com/digest/aeroelectric-list _-= Live List Chat: http://www.matronics.com/chat _-= Archives: http://www.matronics.com/archives _-= Photo Share: http://www.matronics.com/photoshare _-= List Specific: http://www.matronics.com/aeroelectric-list _-= Other Lists: http://www.matronics.com/emaillists _-= Trouble Report http://www.matronics.com/trouble-report _-= Contributions: http://www.matronics.com/contribution _-=====================================================================


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    Time: 01:06:57 PM PST US
    From: Mickey Coggins <mick-matronics@rv8.ch> microswitches
    Subject: Re: smaller fast-on connectors for
    microswitches --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Mickey Coggins <mick-matronics@rv8.ch> microswitches Thanks, guys, for the feedback. I've ordered some fast-ons from ACS - they'll be here in about a week. No NAPA out in my neck of the woods! Best regards, Mickey At 21:52 14-11-04, N1deltawhiskey@aol.com wrote: -----Start of Original Message----- >--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: N1deltawhiskey@aol.com > >Mickey, > >I am using a similar switch to detect flap position, also an Omron with 3/16" >tabs. FWIW, I found suitable fast-ons for 20-22 ga wire at the local Napa >store. > >Doug Windhorn > >In a message dated 11/14/2004 7:40:01 AM Pacific Standard Time, >mick-matronics@rv8.ch writes: > >> Hi Listers, >> >> I've got a Omron microswitch for my AOA flap sensor, >> and it has some tabs that look like of like faston >> tabs, but they are a bit smaller. >> >> Can anyone suggest a place where I can buy some of >> these terminals? I tried slogging through the >> digikey website, but if you don't know exactly what >> you want there, you're hosed. >> >> Is it possible that these 0.187" (3/16"?) terminals are the >> right size? >> >> http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/elpages/pidg.php >> >> Many thanks, >> Mickey -- Mickey Coggins http://www.rv8.ch/ #82007 QB Wings/Fuselage do not archive _-===================================================================== _-_-= -- Please Support Your Lists This Month -- _-= (And Get Some AWESOME FREE Gifts!) _-_-= November is the Annual List Fund Raiser. Click on the _-= Contribution link below to find out more about this _-= year's Terrific Free Incentive Gifts provided by the _-= The Builder's Bookstore www.buildersbooks.com! _-_-= List Contribution Web Site _-_-= http://www.matronics.com/contribution _-_-= Thank you for your generous support! _-= -Matt Dralle, List Admin. _-_-===================================================================== _-= - The AeroElectric-List Email Forum - _-= This forum is sponsored entirely through the Contributions _-= of List members. You'll never see banner ads or any other _-= form of direct advertising on the Matronics Forums. _-===================================================================== _-= List Related Information _-= Post Message: aeroelectric-list@matronics.com _-= UN/SUBSCRIBE: http://www.matronics.com/subscription _-= List FAQ: http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/AeroElectric-List.htm _-= Search Engine: http://www.matronics.com/search _-= 7-Day Browse: http://www.matronics.com/browse/aeroelectric-list _-= Browse Digests: http://www.matronics.com/digest/aeroelectric-list _-= Live List Chat: http://www.matronics.com/chat _-= Archives: http://www.matronics.com/archives _-= Photo Share: http://www.matronics.com/photoshare _-= List Specific: http://www.matronics.com/aeroelectric-list _-= Other Lists: http://www.matronics.com/emaillists _-= Trouble Report http://www.matronics.com/trouble-report _-= Contributions: http://www.matronics.com/contribution _-=====================================================================


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    Time: 03:24:44 PM PST US
    From: "NEMuzzy" <list01@GourmetDamage.com>
    Subject: Collins 331H-3G CDI Pinout?
    --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "NEMuzzy" <list01@GourmetDamage.com> Would anyone have a pinout for a Collins 331H-3G glideslope indicator? I will be connecting it to a KNS-80 RNAV. The KING equipment is no problem to find pinouts for, but the Collins info seems to be hiding from me. Regards- Norm _-===================================================================== _-_-= -- Please Support Your Lists This Month -- _-= (And Get Some AWESOME FREE Gifts!) _-_-= November is the Annual List Fund Raiser. Click on the _-= Contribution link below to find out more about this _-= year's Terrific Free Incentive Gifts provided by the _-= The Builder's Bookstore www.buildersbooks.com! _-_-= List Contribution Web Site _-_-= http://www.matronics.com/contribution _-_-= Thank you for your generous support! _-= -Matt Dralle, List Admin. _-_-===================================================================== _-= - The AeroElectric-List Email Forum - _-= This forum is sponsored entirely through the Contributions _-= of List members. You'll never see banner ads or any other _-= form of direct advertising on the Matronics Forums. _-===================================================================== _-= List Related Information _-= Post Message: aeroelectric-list@matronics.com _-= UN/SUBSCRIBE: http://www.matronics.com/subscription _-= List FAQ: http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/AeroElectric-List.htm _-= Search Engine: http://www.matronics.com/search _-= 7-Day Browse: http://www.matronics.com/browse/aeroelectric-list _-= Browse Digests: http://www.matronics.com/digest/aeroelectric-list _-= Live List Chat: http://www.matronics.com/chat _-= Archives: http://www.matronics.com/archives _-= Photo Share: http://www.matronics.com/photoshare _-= List Specific: http://www.matronics.com/aeroelectric-list _-= Other Lists: http://www.matronics.com/emaillists _-= Trouble Report http://www.matronics.com/trouble-report _-= Contributions: http://www.matronics.com/contribution _-=====================================================================


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    Time: 04:29:10 PM PST US
    From: "Jim Stone" <jsto1@tampabay.rr.com>
    Subject: Rotax 914, dual alt
    --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Jim Stone" <jsto1@tampabay.rr.com> Bob, I had a similar issue using the vacuum pad on a Jabiru engine and have talked to B&C at Oshkosh and Sun-N-Fun for the past 2 years. They basicly said, "Sorry". So I designed a flat belt drive for a Toyota alternator, and use the built in Jabiru alternator just to manage the backup battery and tach input. Anyone can drop me an E-mail if they want some photos. Jabiru had ~7" space to fit in a 90 Amp alternator, a new 55 A Nippon Denso that's 5 lb lighter is regularly on EBay for ~$110. Jim Stone -----Original Message----- From: owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Robert L. Nuckolls, III Subject: Re: AW: AeroElectric-List: Rotax 914, dual alt --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Robert L. Nuckolls, III" --> <b.nuckolls@cox.net> At 12:16 PM 11/14/2004 +0100, you wrote: >--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Europa (Alfred Buess)" ><ykibuess@bluewin.ch> > >Manuel, > >The electrical system of my Europa XS (not yet flying) with a Rotax >912S is based on two alternators working in parallel if the power >consumtion needs it. The setpoint of the regulator for the Rotax >alternator is set at 14.3 V, the setpoint of the regulator for the >vacuum drive pad alternator (a SD-8 in my case) is set at 13.8 V. If >the power consumption exceeds the output of the Rotax alternator, the >bus voltage will fall below 14.3 V and at 13.8 V the SD-8 will come >alive. This means the SD-8 works more like a boost alternator than an >emergency alternator. If you are interested, I could send you a >CAD-file (.dwg) of my electrical system. > >Alfred To my knowledge, there are no vacuum-pump, pad-driven alternators that will produce useful amounts of snort on the 912/914 series engines. Their pads are just too slow. Didn't somebody on the list point us to a successful belt driven add-on to the Rotax in a Europa? I seem to recall having seen photos. >I am working on a Dyn Aero MCR 4S, to be equipped for IFR flying >(ad-hoc > >avionics, pitot heat...), powered by a Rotax 914 (electrically >dependant). I know the Rotax alt won't deliver enough power for all my >stuff. So I need to add a second alternator. I don't have enough room >in the cowling to put a >belt driven one, so my only reasonable option is the SD 20. With the >vacuum >pump pad turning at 0.54 the engine rpm, it could nearly deliver 20 amp >at >5200 RPM, which is not so bad. This puts your pad at which is 2800. The pad on a lycoming or continental runs at 1.25 to 1.4 of crankshaft which is about 3200 RPM where the SD-20 is rated. Further, I'm not sure the SD-20 fits the Rotax. Have you discussed this with B&C? 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    Time: 05:25:07 PM PST US
    From: "Mitch Faatz" <mitchf@skybound.com>
    Subject: Shunt with essential bus
    --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Mitch Faatz" <mitchf@skybound.com> Bob (and anyone else) - I'm trying to figure out how to wire my shunt for my ammeter. The problem is I'm planning on a small battery bus, and the main bus and essential bus. How can I wire the shunt so it shows the total load on the system (all three buses)? Is it possible? I guess at a minimum I want to see the load on the main and essential buses. TIA - Mitch Faatz - RV-6A Finish Kit _-===================================================================== _-_-= -- Please Support Your Lists This Month -- _-= (And Get Some AWESOME FREE Gifts!) _-_-= November is the Annual List Fund Raiser. Click on the _-= Contribution link below to find out more about this _-= year's Terrific Free Incentive Gifts provided by the _-= The Builder's Bookstore www.buildersbooks.com! _-_-= List Contribution Web Site _-_-= http://www.matronics.com/contribution _-_-= Thank you for your generous support! _-= -Matt Dralle, List Admin. _-_-===================================================================== _-= - The AeroElectric-List Email Forum - _-= This forum is sponsored entirely through the Contributions _-= of List members. You'll never see banner ads or any other _-= form of direct advertising on the Matronics Forums. _-===================================================================== _-= List Related Information _-= Post Message: aeroelectric-list@matronics.com _-= UN/SUBSCRIBE: http://www.matronics.com/subscription _-= List FAQ: http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/AeroElectric-List.htm _-= Search Engine: http://www.matronics.com/search _-= 7-Day Browse: http://www.matronics.com/browse/aeroelectric-list _-= Browse Digests: http://www.matronics.com/digest/aeroelectric-list _-= Live List Chat: http://www.matronics.com/chat _-= Archives: http://www.matronics.com/archives _-= Photo Share: http://www.matronics.com/photoshare _-= List Specific: http://www.matronics.com/aeroelectric-list _-= Other Lists: http://www.matronics.com/emaillists _-= Trouble Report http://www.matronics.com/trouble-report _-= Contributions: http://www.matronics.com/contribution _-=====================================================================


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    Time: 05:38:08 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Shunt with essential bus
    From: "Matt Prather" <mprather@spro.net>
    --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Matt Prather" <mprather@spro.net> You could use multiple shunts driving the same meter via a switch... Matt- > --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Mitch Faatz" > <mitchf@skybound.com> > > Bob (and anyone else) - > > I'm trying to figure out how to wire my shunt for my ammeter. The > problem is I'm planning on a small battery bus, and the main bus and > essential bus. How can I wire the shunt so it shows the total load on > the system (all three buses)? Is it possible? I guess at a minimum I > want to see the load on the main and essential buses. > > TIA - Mitch Faatz - RV-6A Finish Kit > > > _-===================================================================== > _-> _-= -- Please Support Your Lists This Month -- > _-= (And Get Some AWESOME FREE Gifts!) > _-> _-= November is the Annual List Fund Raiser. Click on the > _-= Contribution link below to find out more about this > _-= year's Terrific Free Incentive Gifts provided by the > _-= The Builder's Bookstore www.buildersbooks.com! > _-> _-= List Contribution Web Site > _-> _-= http://www.matronics.com/contribution > _-> _-= Thank you for your generous support! > _-= -Matt Dralle, List Admin. > _-> _-===================================================================== > _-= - The AeroElectric-List Email Forum - > _-= This forum is sponsored entirely through the Contributions > _-= of List members. You'll never see banner ads or any other > _-= form of direct advertising on the Matronics Forums. > _-===================================================================== > _-= List Related Information > _-= Post Message: aeroelectric-list@matronics.com > _-= UN/SUBSCRIBE: http://www.matronics.com/subscription > _-= List FAQ: http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/AeroElectric-List.htm > _-= Search Engine: http://www.matronics.com/search > _-= 7-Day Browse: http://www.matronics.com/browse/aeroelectric-list > _-= Browse Digests: http://www.matronics.com/digest/aeroelectric-list > _-= Live List Chat: http://www.matronics.com/chat > _-= Archives: http://www.matronics.com/archives > _-= Photo Share: http://www.matronics.com/photoshare > _-= List Specific: http://www.matronics.com/aeroelectric-list > _-= Other Lists: http://www.matronics.com/emaillists > _-= Trouble Report http://www.matronics.com/trouble-report > _-= Contributions: http://www.matronics.com/contribution > _-===================================================================== _-===================================================================== _-_-= -- Please Support Your Lists This Month -- _-= (And Get Some AWESOME FREE Gifts!) _-_-= November is the Annual List Fund Raiser. Click on the _-= Contribution link below to find out more about this _-= year's Terrific Free Incentive Gifts provided by the _-= The Builder's Bookstore www.buildersbooks.com! _-_-= List Contribution Web Site _-_-= http://www.matronics.com/contribution _-_-= Thank you for your generous support! _-= -Matt Dralle, List Admin. _-_-===================================================================== _-= - The AeroElectric-List Email Forum - _-= This forum is sponsored entirely through the Contributions _-= of List members. You'll never see banner ads or any other _-= form of direct advertising on the Matronics Forums. _-===================================================================== _-= List Related Information _-= Post Message: aeroelectric-list@matronics.com _-= UN/SUBSCRIBE: http://www.matronics.com/subscription _-= List FAQ: http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/AeroElectric-List.htm _-= Search Engine: http://www.matronics.com/search _-= 7-Day Browse: http://www.matronics.com/browse/aeroelectric-list _-= Browse Digests: http://www.matronics.com/digest/aeroelectric-list _-= Live List Chat: http://www.matronics.com/chat _-= Archives: http://www.matronics.com/archives _-= Photo Share: http://www.matronics.com/photoshare _-= List Specific: http://www.matronics.com/aeroelectric-list _-= Other Lists: http://www.matronics.com/emaillists _-= Trouble Report http://www.matronics.com/trouble-report _-= Contributions: http://www.matronics.com/contribution _-=====================================================================


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    Time: 06:21:51 PM PST US
    From: Walter Tondu <walter@tondu.com>
    Subject: Re: Shunt with essential bus
    --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Walter Tondu <walter@tondu.com> On 11/14 5:24, Mitch Faatz wrote: > I'm trying to figure out how to wire my shunt for my ammeter. The problem is I'm planning on a small battery bus, and the main bus and essential bus. How can I wire the shunt so it shows the total load on the system (all three buses)? Is it possible? I guess at a minimum I want to see the load on the main and essential buses. How about using a hall effect sensor instead of shunts? -- Walter Tondu http://www.rv7-a.com _-===================================================================== _-_-= -- Please Support Your Lists This Month -- _-= (And Get Some AWESOME FREE Gifts!) _-_-= November is the Annual List Fund Raiser. Click on the _-= Contribution link below to find out more about this _-= year's Terrific Free Incentive Gifts provided by the _-= The Builder's Bookstore www.buildersbooks.com! _-_-= List Contribution Web Site _-_-= http://www.matronics.com/contribution _-_-= Thank you for your generous support! _-= -Matt Dralle, List Admin. _-_-===================================================================== _-= - The AeroElectric-List Email Forum - _-= This forum is sponsored entirely through the Contributions _-= of List members. You'll never see banner ads or any other _-= form of direct advertising on the Matronics Forums. _-===================================================================== _-= List Related Information _-= Post Message: aeroelectric-list@matronics.com _-= UN/SUBSCRIBE: http://www.matronics.com/subscription _-= List FAQ: http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/AeroElectric-List.htm _-= Search Engine: http://www.matronics.com/search _-= 7-Day Browse: http://www.matronics.com/browse/aeroelectric-list _-= Browse Digests: http://www.matronics.com/digest/aeroelectric-list _-= Live List Chat: http://www.matronics.com/chat _-= Archives: http://www.matronics.com/archives _-= Photo Share: http://www.matronics.com/photoshare _-= List Specific: http://www.matronics.com/aeroelectric-list _-= Other Lists: http://www.matronics.com/emaillists _-= Trouble Report http://www.matronics.com/trouble-report _-= Contributions: http://www.matronics.com/contribution _-=====================================================================


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    Time: 07:08:12 PM PST US
    From: "Mitch Faatz" <mitchf@skybound.com>
    Subject: Re: Shunt with essential bus
    --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Mitch Faatz" <mitchf@skybound.com> I'm using a little three gauge cluster from Mitchell, which uses a shunt. I don't want to have to switch between shunts either, I wonder if you can just have two or three shunts tie onto the same gauge input and have it work. I think the output of the shunts is just a 0-50 mv so perhaps it would be additive? -Mitch > > I'm trying to figure out how to wire my shunt for my ammeter. The problem is I'm planning on a small battery bus, and the main bus and essential bus. How can I wire the shunt so it shows the total load on the system (all three buses)? Is it possible? I guess at a minimum I want to see the load on the main and essential buses. > > How about using a hall effect sensor instead of shunts? > _-===================================================================== _-_-= -- Please Support Your Lists This Month -- _-= (And Get Some AWESOME FREE Gifts!) _-_-= November is the Annual List Fund Raiser. Click on the _-= Contribution link below to find out more about this _-= year's Terrific Free Incentive Gifts provided by the _-= The Builder's Bookstore www.buildersbooks.com! _-_-= List Contribution Web Site _-_-= http://www.matronics.com/contribution _-_-= Thank you for your generous support! _-= -Matt Dralle, List Admin. _-_-===================================================================== _-= - The AeroElectric-List Email Forum - _-= This forum is sponsored entirely through the Contributions _-= of List members. You'll never see banner ads or any other _-= form of direct advertising on the Matronics Forums. _-===================================================================== _-= List Related Information _-= Post Message: aeroelectric-list@matronics.com _-= UN/SUBSCRIBE: http://www.matronics.com/subscription _-= List FAQ: http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/AeroElectric-List.htm _-= Search Engine: http://www.matronics.com/search _-= 7-Day Browse: http://www.matronics.com/browse/aeroelectric-list _-= Browse Digests: http://www.matronics.com/digest/aeroelectric-list _-= Live List Chat: http://www.matronics.com/chat _-= Archives: http://www.matronics.com/archives _-= Photo Share: http://www.matronics.com/photoshare _-= List Specific: http://www.matronics.com/aeroelectric-list _-= Other Lists: http://www.matronics.com/emaillists _-= Trouble Report http://www.matronics.com/trouble-report _-= Contributions: http://www.matronics.com/contribution _-=====================================================================


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    Time: 08:49:34 PM PST US
    From: "Robert L. Nuckolls, III" <b.nuckolls@cox.net> microswitches
    Subject: Re: smaller fast-on connectors for
    microswitches --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Robert L. Nuckolls, III" <b.nuckolls@cox.net> microswitches At 10:06 PM 11/14/2004 +0100, you wrote: >--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Mickey Coggins ><mick-matronics@rv8.ch> microswitches > >Thanks, guys, for the feedback. I've ordered some fast-ons from >ACS - they'll be here in about a week. No NAPA out in my neck >of the woods! NAPA is very unlikely to stock PIDG style terminals . . . Bob . . . _-===================================================================== _-_-= -- Please Support Your Lists This Month -- _-= (And Get Some AWESOME FREE Gifts!) _-_-= November is the Annual List Fund Raiser. Click on the _-= Contribution link below to find out more about this _-= year's Terrific Free Incentive Gifts provided by the _-= The Builder's Bookstore www.buildersbooks.com! _-_-= List Contribution Web Site _-_-= http://www.matronics.com/contribution _-_-= Thank you for your generous support! _-= -Matt Dralle, List Admin. _-_-===================================================================== _-= - The AeroElectric-List Email Forum - _-= This forum is sponsored entirely through the Contributions _-= of List members. You'll never see banner ads or any other _-= form of direct advertising on the Matronics Forums. _-===================================================================== _-= List Related Information _-= Post Message: aeroelectric-list@matronics.com _-= UN/SUBSCRIBE: http://www.matronics.com/subscription _-= List FAQ: http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/AeroElectric-List.htm _-= Search Engine: http://www.matronics.com/search _-= 7-Day Browse: http://www.matronics.com/browse/aeroelectric-list _-= Browse Digests: http://www.matronics.com/digest/aeroelectric-list _-= Live List Chat: http://www.matronics.com/chat _-= Archives: http://www.matronics.com/archives _-= Photo Share: http://www.matronics.com/photoshare _-= List Specific: http://www.matronics.com/aeroelectric-list _-= Other Lists: http://www.matronics.com/emaillists _-= Trouble Report http://www.matronics.com/trouble-report _-= Contributions: http://www.matronics.com/contribution _-=====================================================================


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    Time: 08:50:54 PM PST US
    From: "Robert L. Nuckolls, III" <b.nuckolls@cox.net>
    Subject: Re: Shunt with essential bus
    --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Robert L. Nuckolls, III" <b.nuckolls@cox.net> At 05:24 PM 11/14/2004 -0800, you wrote: >--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Mitch Faatz" <mitchf@skybound.com> > >Bob (and anyone else) - > >I'm trying to figure out how to wire my shunt for my ammeter. The problem >is I'm planning on a small battery bus, and the main bus and essential >bus. How can I wire the shunt so it shows the total load on the system >(all three buses)? Is it possible? I guess at a minimum I want to see >the load on the main and essential buses. When you put a loadmeter in the alternator b-lead, then it does exactly what you've asked for . . . total load on the system. Understand that while the battery is recharging, it is part of total load but that all goes away after 30 minutes or so of operation. Bob . . . _-===================================================================== _-_-= -- Please Support Your Lists This Month -- _-= (And Get Some AWESOME FREE Gifts!) _-_-= November is the Annual List Fund Raiser. Click on the _-= Contribution link below to find out more about this _-= year's Terrific Free Incentive Gifts provided by the _-= The Builder's Bookstore www.buildersbooks.com! _-_-= List Contribution Web Site _-_-= http://www.matronics.com/contribution _-_-= Thank you for your generous support! _-= -Matt Dralle, List Admin. _-_-===================================================================== _-= - The AeroElectric-List Email Forum - _-= This forum is sponsored entirely through the Contributions _-= of List members. You'll never see banner ads or any other _-= form of direct advertising on the Matronics Forums. _-===================================================================== _-= List Related Information _-= Post Message: aeroelectric-list@matronics.com _-= UN/SUBSCRIBE: http://www.matronics.com/subscription _-= List FAQ: http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/AeroElectric-List.htm _-= Search Engine: http://www.matronics.com/search _-= 7-Day Browse: http://www.matronics.com/browse/aeroelectric-list _-= Browse Digests: http://www.matronics.com/digest/aeroelectric-list _-= Live List Chat: http://www.matronics.com/chat _-= Archives: http://www.matronics.com/archives _-= Photo Share: http://www.matronics.com/photoshare _-= List Specific: http://www.matronics.com/aeroelectric-list _-= Other Lists: http://www.matronics.com/emaillists _-= Trouble Report http://www.matronics.com/trouble-report _-= Contributions: http://www.matronics.com/contribution _-=====================================================================


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    Time: 08:52:46 PM PST US
    From: "Robert L. Nuckolls, III" <b.nuckolls@cox.net>
    Subject: Re: Shunt with essential bus
    --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Robert L. Nuckolls, III" <b.nuckolls@cox.net> At 07:07 PM 11/14/2004 -0800, you wrote: >--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Mitch Faatz" <mitchf@skybound.com> > >I'm using a little three gauge cluster from Mitchell, which uses a shunt. I >don't want to have to switch between shunts either, I wonder if you can just >have two or three shunts tie onto the same gauge input and have it work. I >think the output of the shunts is just a 0-50 mv so perhaps it would be >additive? No, it takes some special gyrations to "add" the total value of shunts in different parts of the system. How would you use this information? Bob . . . _-===================================================================== _-_-= -- Please Support Your Lists This Month -- _-= (And Get Some AWESOME FREE Gifts!) _-_-= November is the Annual List Fund Raiser. Click on the _-= Contribution link below to find out more about this _-= year's Terrific Free Incentive Gifts provided by the _-= The Builder's Bookstore www.buildersbooks.com! _-_-= List Contribution Web Site _-_-= http://www.matronics.com/contribution _-_-= Thank you for your generous support! _-= -Matt Dralle, List Admin. _-_-===================================================================== _-= - The AeroElectric-List Email Forum - _-= This forum is sponsored entirely through the Contributions _-= of List members. You'll never see banner ads or any other _-= form of direct advertising on the Matronics Forums. _-===================================================================== _-= List Related Information _-= Post Message: aeroelectric-list@matronics.com _-= UN/SUBSCRIBE: http://www.matronics.com/subscription _-= List FAQ: http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/AeroElectric-List.htm _-= Search Engine: http://www.matronics.com/search _-= 7-Day Browse: http://www.matronics.com/browse/aeroelectric-list _-= Browse Digests: http://www.matronics.com/digest/aeroelectric-list _-= Live List Chat: http://www.matronics.com/chat _-= Archives: http://www.matronics.com/archives _-= Photo Share: http://www.matronics.com/photoshare _-= List Specific: http://www.matronics.com/aeroelectric-list _-= Other Lists: http://www.matronics.com/emaillists _-= Trouble Report http://www.matronics.com/trouble-report _-= Contributions: http://www.matronics.com/contribution _-=====================================================================


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    Time: 09:20:10 PM PST US
    From: "Mitch Faatz" <mitchf@skybound.com>
    Subject: Re: Shunt with essential bus
    --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Mitch Faatz" <mitchf@skybound.com> > When you put a loadmeter in the alternator b-lead, then it > does exactly what you've asked for . . . total load on the > system. ... Okay, so I'll put the shunt between the starter contactor and the master/battery contactor and it will work perfectly except when the battery contactor is shut off and the essential bus feed turned on, correct? Thanks again Bob Mitch Faatz RV-6A Perpetual Finish Kit _-===================================================================== _-_-= -- Please Support Your Lists This Month -- _-= (And Get Some AWESOME FREE Gifts!) _-_-= November is the Annual List Fund Raiser. Click on the _-= Contribution link below to find out more about this _-= year's Terrific Free Incentive Gifts provided by the _-= The Builder's Bookstore www.buildersbooks.com! _-_-= List Contribution Web Site _-_-= http://www.matronics.com/contribution _-_-= Thank you for your generous support! _-= -Matt Dralle, List Admin. _-_-===================================================================== _-= - The AeroElectric-List Email Forum - _-= This forum is sponsored entirely through the Contributions _-= of List members. You'll never see banner ads or any other _-= form of direct advertising on the Matronics Forums. _-===================================================================== _-= List Related Information _-= Post Message: aeroelectric-list@matronics.com _-= UN/SUBSCRIBE: http://www.matronics.com/subscription _-= List FAQ: http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/AeroElectric-List.htm _-= Search Engine: http://www.matronics.com/search _-= 7-Day Browse: http://www.matronics.com/browse/aeroelectric-list _-= Browse Digests: http://www.matronics.com/digest/aeroelectric-list _-= Live List Chat: http://www.matronics.com/chat _-= Archives: http://www.matronics.com/archives _-= Photo Share: http://www.matronics.com/photoshare _-= List Specific: http://www.matronics.com/aeroelectric-list _-= Other Lists: http://www.matronics.com/emaillists _-= Trouble Report http://www.matronics.com/trouble-report _-= Contributions: http://www.matronics.com/contribution _-=====================================================================




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