AeroElectric-List Digest Archive

Fri 02/25/05


Total Messages Posted: 33



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     1. 02:53 AM - Air pressure switch (Gianni Zuliani)
     2. 04:59 AM - Re: Air pressure switch (Trampas)
     3. 04:59 AM - Re: Air pressure switch (Ken)
     4. 05:05 AM - Re: Air pressure switch (plaurence@the-beach.net)
     5. 05:20 AM - No more fuel to transfer (Hans Teijgeler)
     6. 05:55 AM - Re: Stand-by and Second Alternators (subject line change) (Emrath)
     7. 06:06 AM - Re: No more fuel to transfer (pengilly@southwest.com.au)
     8. 06:12 AM - Re: No more fuel to transfer (Bob Kuc)
     9. 06:41 AM - SD-8 on a Rotax 914 (Kevin And Ann Klinefelter)
    10. 06:59 AM - Re: Air pressure switch (Joel Jacobs)
    11. 07:00 AM - Re: Battery cables (Angier & Gynna)
    12. 07:15 AM - Re: Air pressure switch (James Redmon)
    13. 07:26 AM - PMA-4000 audio panel (Jim Stone)
    14. 08:25 AM - Re: PMA-4000 audio panel (James E. Clark)
    15. 08:28 AM - Re: PMA-4000 audio panel (Denis Walsh)
    16. 09:11 AM - Re: Air pressure switch (Werner Schneider)
    17. 10:00 AM - What is this device - again as I seriously doubt that it is a capicator (Hal Kempthorne)
    18. 10:34 AM - Re: What is this device - again as I seriously (rv-9a-online)
    19. 10:47 AM - Re: What is this device - again as I seriously (Richard Tasker)
    20. 11:01 AM - Re: PMA-4000 audio panel (Jim Stone)
    21. 11:02 AM - Re: PMA-4000 audio panel (Jim Stone)
    22. 11:16 AM - Re: What is this device - again as I seriously doubt that it is a capicator (Matt Prather)
    23. 11:22 AM - Re: PMA-4000 audio panel (James E. Clark)
    24. 11:27 AM - Re: What is this device - again as I seriously doubt that it is a capicator (Matt Prather)
    25. 11:32 AM - ND Alternators (Richard Garforth)
    26. 11:36 AM - transponder antenna cable near other cables? (Mickey Coggins)
    27. 11:42 AM - Re: PMA-4000 audio panel (Mickey Coggins)
    28. 03:05 PM - Re: Re: Battery cables (Ken)
    29. 03:05 PM - Re: ND Alternators (Ken)
    30. 06:04 PM - equipment amp loads? (Mark Hall)
    31. 07:01 PM - Re: [Stinson] Genave marker receiver pinout? (cgalley)
    32. 07:34 PM - Re: Air pressure switch (Richard Riley)
    33. 09:37 PM - Switch type (Scott Winn (Matronics List))
 
 
 


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    Time: 02:53:31 AM PST US
    From: "Gianni Zuliani" <gz@comgz.com>
    Subject: Air pressure switch
    --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Gianni Zuliani" <gz@comgz.com> Good morning listers, On my Stag-EZRG canard I'd like to install a device which prevents retracting the landing gear below 90 Kt and arms an alarm in case my airspeed goes below 90 Kt and my landing gear is still retracted. To this end I'm looking for an air pressure switch which senses very low anemometric pressure ( I've calculated 0.2 PSI). Has anybody already faced this application or searched for such a switch? Thanks. Gianni Zuliani Tel/Fax +41 91 9710850 Mobile +41 79 3373439 Long-Ez >> Stag-Ez >>Stag-EzRG http://www.comgz.com/tristar.htm


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    Time: 04:59:03 AM PST US
    From: "Trampas" <tstern@nc.rr.com>
    Subject: Air pressure switch
    --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Trampas" <tstern@nc.rr.com> Goto www.digikey.com and search for MPX pressure sensors. These pressure sensors will do what you want. Note you will want a differential pressure sensor connected to pitot and static ports. Regards, Trampas -----Original Message----- From: owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gianni Zuliani Subject: AeroElectric-List: Air pressure switch --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Gianni Zuliani" <gz@comgz.com> Good morning listers, On my Stag-EZRG canard I'd like to install a device which prevents retracting the landing gear below 90 Kt and arms an alarm in case my airspeed goes below 90 Kt and my landing gear is still retracted. To this end I'm looking for an air pressure switch which senses very low anemometric pressure ( I've calculated 0.2 PSI). Has anybody already faced this application or searched for such a switch? Thanks. Gianni Zuliani Tel/Fax +41 91 9710850 Mobile +41 79 3373439 Long-Ez >> Stag-Ez >>Stag-EzRG http://www.comgz.com/tristar.htm


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    Time: 04:59:04 AM PST US
    From: Ken <klehman@albedo.net>
    Subject: Re: Air pressure switch
    --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Ken <klehman@albedo.net> A motorola solid state pressure sensor/Digi-Key MPXV5004GC6U-ND will do it. $26., good for 0 to 4 kpa or 0 to 0.6 psi. Outputs 0 to 5 volts so is a good match for a comparator with a bit of hysterisis and set the trip point for 90 Kt. or wherever. Or there are some commercial gear alarms available if you don't want to do it yourself. Ken Gianni Zuliani wrote: >--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Gianni Zuliani" <gz@comgz.com> > >Good morning listers, >On my Stag-EZRG canard I'd like to install a device which prevents >retracting the landing gear below 90 Kt and arms an alarm in case my >airspeed goes below 90 Kt and my landing gear is still retracted. To this >end I'm looking for an air pressure switch which senses very low anemometric >pressure ( I've calculated 0.2 PSI). >Has anybody already faced this application or searched for such a switch? >Thanks. >Gianni Zuliani >Tel/Fax +41 91 9710850 >Mobile +41 79 3373439 >Long-Ez >> Stag-Ez >>Stag-EzRG >http://www.comgz.com/tristar.htm > >


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    Time: 05:05:01 AM PST US
    From: plaurence@the-beach.net
    Subject: Re: Air pressure switch
    --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: plaurence@the-beach.net I may have some info for you. We installed a device like this on a Velocity. When my hangar mate gets back into town I'll get the info for you. Peter Laurence On 25 Feb 2005 at 11:48, Gianni Zuliani wrote: > --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Gianni Zuliani" > <gz@comgz.com> > > Good morning listers, > On my Stag-EZRG canard I'd like to install a device which prevents > retracting the landing gear below 90 Kt and arms an alarm in case my > airspeed goes below 90 Kt and my landing gear is still retracted. To > this end I'm looking for an air pressure switch which senses very low > anemometric pressure ( I've calculated 0.2 PSI). Has anybody already > faced this application or searched for such a switch? Thanks. Gianni > Zuliani Tel/Fax +41 91 9710850 Mobile +41 79 3373439 Long-Ez >> > Stag-Ez >>Stag-EzRG http://www.comgz.com/tristar.htm > > > advertising on the Matronics Forums. > > > > > >


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    Time: 05:20:24 AM PST US
    From: "Hans Teijgeler" <hans@jodel.com>
    Subject: No more fuel to transfer
    --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Hans Teijgeler" <hans@jodel.com> Hi guys, My Jodel has a two-tank setup with a main tank from which the engine gets its fuel and an aux tank under the rear bench. There is a facet fuel pump to transfer fuel from the aux to the main tank. The problem: How do I detect when to shut down the transfer pump when the aux tank runs dry? I could think of a flow switch in the fuel line. Probably works well, but is fairly expensive I could envision using a pressure switch right after the fuel pump, but before the inline filter and the 6 ft of fuel line. If the switch is sensitive enough, it will at least allow me to light a LED and/or a buzzer to warn me. Question would be if I could locate a pressure switch with enough sensitivity to trigger on this low pressure. Or option three: and here's my question: couldn't I simply monitor the current that goes to the fuel pump and deduct from that wether the pump is pumping fuel or air? And then what? A shunt, some electronics, a comparator and a light + buzzer?? Thanks! Hans


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    Time: 05:55:45 AM PST US
    From: "Emrath" <emrath@comcast.net>
    Subject: Re: Stand-by and Second Alternators (subject line change)
    --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Emrath" <emrath@comcast.net> If anyone manages to fit one of the J.D. units onto a Lyc like the SD8 is mounted, I'm interested in do this too. The cost seems very favorable for the J.D. device. A while back there was some "chatter" about the SD8 having output problems at both low RPM and at high temperatures. The low RPM issue isn't much of a factor in flight but not being able to actually put out 8amps at it rated rpm due to temperature issues is not helpful if this is the case. Bob, did this testing ever get completed? Marty in Brentwood TN Time: 07:05:56 PM PST US From: "Dean" <dvanwinkle@royell.net> Subject: Re: Mixing Z13 and Z14 --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Dean" <dvanwinkle@royell.net> Vern Try http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford/corvair/dynamo.html . It has some of the info that you are looking for. Dean Van Winkle RV-9A Fuselage/Finish ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rick Girard" <fly.ez@verizon.net> Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: Re: Mixing Z13 and Z14 > --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Rick Girard <fly.ez@verizon.net> > > Vern, Your local John Deere dealer has PM alternators up to 60 amps, > IIRC. Sorry I don't have part numbers, but you might be able to find > them by searching the archives of the Aircraft Rotary Engine (ACRE) web > site. > > Rick Girard > >


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    Time: 06:06:03 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: No more fuel to transfer
    From: pengilly@southwest.com.au
    --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: pengilly@southwest.com.au Try a pillar point fuel tank monitor this is what you need http://www.ppavionics.com/ Regards Paul P Glasair in progress > --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Hans Teijgeler" <hans@jodel.com> > > Hi guys, > > My Jodel has a two-tank setup with a main tank from which the engine gets > its fuel and an aux tank under the rear bench. There is a facet fuel pump > to > transfer fuel from the aux to the main tank. > > The problem: How do I detect when to shut down the transfer pump when the > aux tank runs dry? > > I could think of a flow switch in the fuel line. Probably works well, but > is > fairly expensive > > I could envision using a pressure switch right after the fuel pump, but > before the inline filter and the 6 ft of fuel line. If the switch is > sensitive enough, it will at least allow me to light a LED and/or a buzzer > to warn me. Question would be if I could locate a pressure switch with > enough sensitivity to trigger on this low pressure. > > Or option three: and here's my question: couldn't I simply monitor the > current that goes to the fuel pump and deduct from that wether the pump is > pumping fuel or air? And then what? A shunt, some electronics, a > comparator > and a light + buzzer?? > > Thanks! > > Hans > >


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    Time: 06:12:23 AM PST US
    From: "Bob Kuc" <bkuc1@verizon.net>
    Subject: Re: No more fuel to transfer
    --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Bob Kuc" <bkuc1@verizon.net> If you can, you can put in a liquid sensor and mount it low. When it comes on, you have very little fuel left. If you have a fuel guage in the main tank, then another indication would be that the fuel guage stops rising. Bob Kuc ----- Original Message ----- From: "Hans Teijgeler" <hans@jodel.com> Subject: AeroElectric-List: No more fuel to transfer > --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Hans Teijgeler" <hans@jodel.com> > > Hi guys, > > My Jodel has a two-tank setup with a main tank from which the engine gets > its fuel and an aux tank under the rear bench. There is a facet fuel pump to > transfer fuel from the aux to the main tank. > > The problem: How do I detect when to shut down the transfer pump when the > aux tank runs dry? > > I could think of a flow switch in the fuel line. Probably works well, but is > fairly expensive > > I could envision using a pressure switch right after the fuel pump, but > before the inline filter and the 6 ft of fuel line. If the switch is > sensitive enough, it will at least allow me to light a LED and/or a buzzer > to warn me. Question would be if I could locate a pressure switch with > enough sensitivity to trigger on this low pressure. > > Or option three: and here's my question: couldn't I simply monitor the > current that goes to the fuel pump and deduct from that wether the pump is > pumping fuel or air? And then what? A shunt, some electronics, a comparator > and a light + buzzer?? > > Thanks! > > Hans > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 266.4.0 - Release Date: 2/22/2005 > > -- Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.


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    Time: 06:41:37 AM PST US
    From: Kevin And Ann Klinefelter <kevann@verizon.net>
    Subject: SD-8 on a Rotax 914
    2.00 DATE_IN_FUTURE_24_48 Date": is.24.to.48.hours.after.Received:date@matronics.com --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Kevin And Ann Klinefelter <kevann@verizon.net> Hi All I have a 914 which is dependent on electric fuel pumps. I am thinking of putting an SD-8 on the empty vacume pump pad. Does anyone know what output I might expect from the SD-8 in cruise, say 5200 rpm? Kevin Europa nearing completion, no electrical plan started yet.


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    Time: 06:59:39 AM PST US
    From: "Joel Jacobs" <jj@sdf.lonestar.org>
    Subject: Re: Air pressure switch
    --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Joel Jacobs" <jj@sdf.lonestar.org> My high efficient furnace has a combustion blower to blow the gasses outside. There is a pressure switch to sense that the blower is running. It's about 3" diameter diaphragm type switch with a hose to the blower housing. Not sure what the trip point is but it's likely low and may be worth looking at.. Do not archive Joel ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gianni Zuliani" <gz@comgz.com> Subject: AeroElectric-List: Air pressure switch > --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Gianni Zuliani" <gz@comgz.com> > > Good morning listers, > On my Stag-EZRG canard I'd like to install a device which prevents > retracting the landing gear below 90 Kt and arms an alarm in case my > airspeed goes below 90 Kt and my landing gear is still retracted. To this > end I'm looking for an air pressure switch which senses very low anemometric > pressure ( I've calculated 0.2 PSI). > Has anybody already faced this application or searched for such a switch? > Thanks. > Gianni Zuliani > Tel/Fax +41 91 9710850 > Mobile +41 79 3373439 > Long-Ez >> Stag-Ez >>Stag-EzRG > http://www.comgz.com/tristar.htm > >


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    Time: 07:00:38 AM PST US
    From: Angier & Gynna <N2811A@comcast.net>
    Subject: Re: Battery cables
    --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Angier & Gynna <N2811A@comcast.net> The battery is behind the co-pilot seat in my Lancair. When installing the +/- cables going forward through the firewall, should these cables have several twists or is it ok to simply run then parallel to eachother? > > Thanks, > > Angier Ames


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    Time: 07:15:39 AM PST US
    From: "James Redmon" <james@berkut13.com>
    Subject: Re: Air pressure switch
    --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "James Redmon" <james@berkut13.com> > On my Stag-EZRG canard I'd like to install a device which prevents > retracting the landing gear below 90 Kt and arms an alarm in case my > airspeed goes below 90 Kt and my landing gear is still retracted. To this > end I'm looking for an air pressure switch which senses very low > anemometric > pressure ( I've calculated 0.2 PSI). > Has anybody already faced this application or searched for such a switch? Airspeed Switch Value Engineered Products 3541 Old Conejo Road, Ste #117 Newbury Park, CA 91320 (805) 499-1959 (805) 499-1955 email: vep1@pacbell.net www.veproducts.com Part #654A53.2 set at 80 knots It's a little pricy, but it works perfectly. I've installed one on two Berkuts now. James Redmon Berkut #013 N97TX http://www.berkut13.com


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    Time: 07:26:03 AM PST US
    From: "Jim Stone" <jrstone@insightbb.com>
    Subject: PMA-4000 audio panel
    --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Jim Stone" <jrstone@insightbb.com> Can anyone recommend (or not), the PMA-4000 audio panel from PS engineering? I'll have two radios, one nav, and want to have a high quality ICS with music input. This unit is not stereo but I am under the impression that having stereo is not really important due to the high ambient noise levels. Is this true? Thanks, Jim Harmon Rocket final year (2nd anniversary)


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    Time: 08:25:14 AM PST US
    From: "James E. Clark" <james@nextupventures.com>
    Subject: PMA-4000 audio panel
    --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "James E. Clark" <james@nextupventures.com> I can definitely tell the difference between stereo and mono. Especially with good ANR headsets. You might want to get a stereo model now and not regret it later if you plan to listen to "tunes" in flight. James | -----Original Message----- | From: owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner- | aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim Stone | Sent: Friday, February 25, 2005 10:24 AM | To: aeroelectric-list@matronics.com | Subject: AeroElectric-List: PMA-4000 audio panel | | --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Jim Stone" | <jrstone@insightbb.com> | | Can anyone recommend (or not), the PMA-4000 audio panel from PS | engineering? | | I'll have two radios, one nav, and want to have a high quality ICS with | music input. This unit is not stereo but I am under the impression that | having stereo is not really important due to the high ambient noise | levels. Is this true? | | Thanks, | Jim | Harmon Rocket | final year (2nd anniversary) | | | | |


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    Time: 08:28:06 AM PST US
    From: Denis Walsh <denis.walsh@comcast.net>
    Subject: Re: PMA-4000 audio panel
    --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Denis Walsh <denis.walsh@comcast.net> One man's opinion on stereo: I have a mono intercom and wish I had gone with stereo. My original thinking was as you said, high noise level in cockpit, plus my ears are shot from overexposure to jet noise and aging of same. HOWEVER what has changed in this century is the ANR headsets, and digital music. Whole nother ball game. Noise goes away. Music sounds wonderful. Go for the stereo. Hang the cost. Full speed ahead. Unless of course you are just going to fly that rocket like a spam can. Music is not essential for straight and level flight. Denis On Feb 25, 2005, at 8:24 AM, Jim Stone wrote: > --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Jim Stone" > <jrstone@insightbb.com> > > Can anyone recommend (or not), the PMA-4000 audio panel from PS > engineering? > > I'll have two radios, one nav, and want to have a high quality ICS > with music input. This unit is not stereo but I am under the > impression that having stereo is not really important due to the high > ambient noise levels. Is this true? > > Thanks, > Jim > Harmon Rocket > final year (2nd anniversary) > >


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    Time: 09:11:40 AM PST US
    From: "Werner Schneider" <glastar@gmx.net>
    Subject: Re: Air pressure switch
    --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Werner Schneider" <glastar@gmx.net> Gianni, I have a switch built in from Conrad electronics which switches on my Hoobs meter when I reach 43 kts. It's just to cold in Buttwil to check, but should be no problem. Werner (HB-YKP) ----- Original Message ----- From: <plaurence@the-beach.net> Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: Air pressure switch > --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: plaurence@the-beach.net > > I may have some info for you. We installed a device like this on a Velocity. When my > hangar mate gets back into town I'll get the info for you. > > Peter Laurence > > On 25 Feb 2005 at 11:48, Gianni Zuliani wrote: > > > --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Gianni Zuliani" > > <gz@comgz.com> > > > > Good morning listers, > > On my Stag-EZRG canard I'd like to install a device which prevents > > retracting the landing gear below 90 Kt and arms an alarm in case my > > airspeed goes below 90 Kt and my landing gear is still retracted. To > > this end I'm looking for an air pressure switch which senses very low > > anemometric pressure ( I've calculated 0.2 PSI). Has anybody already > > faced this application or searched for such a switch? Thanks. Gianni > > Zuliani Tel/Fax +41 91 9710850 Mobile +41 79 3373439 Long-Ez >> > > Stag-Ez >>Stag-EzRG http://www.comgz.com/tristar.htm > > > > > > advertising on the Matronics Forums. > > > > > > > > > > > > >


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    Time: 10:00:44 AM PST US
    From: Hal Kempthorne <hal_kempthorne@sbcglobal.net>
    Subject: What is this device - again as I seriously doubt that
    it is a capicator --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Hal Kempthorne <hal_kempthorne@sbcglobal.net> I know I have already been told what it is. Can someone say for sure and tell me what the numbers mean? Where can I get another one? I don't see anything in Digikey catalog. I've been told it is a capacitor, a resistor and a MOV. hal What the heck is this part? It is red, about half an inch square and about 1/16th thick plastic with two leads . Marked ERIE 3.3 M 100V


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    Time: 10:34:54 AM PST US
    From: rv-9a-online <rv-9a-online@telus.net>
    Subject: Re: What is this device - again as I seriously
    doubt that it is a capicator --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: rv-9a-online <rv-9a-online@telus.net> Here's my take: Murata is the manufacturer. Erie is no longer in business, purchased by Murata apparently. check http://www.murata.com/catalog/c49e15.pdf It looks like a 3.3 nF 20% (Z5U) capacitor. Murata does not specify the parts the same, so the nF is inferred. It's too big to by 3.3 pF, and too small to be 3.3 uF. A photo would be useful in identification. Vern Little Hal Kempthorne wrote: >--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Hal Kempthorne <hal_kempthorne@sbcglobal.net> > >I know I have already been told what it is. Can someone say for sure and tell me what the numbers mean? Where can I get another one? I don't see anything in Digikey catalog. > >I've been told it is a capacitor, a resistor and a MOV. > >hal > > >What the heck is this part? It is red, about half an inch square and about 1/16th thick plastic with two leads . > >Marked > >ERIE > >3.3 M > >100V > > > >


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    Time: 10:47:43 AM PST US
    From: Richard Tasker <retasker@optonline.net>
    Subject: Re: What is this device - again as I seriously
    doubt that it is a capicator --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Richard Tasker <retasker@optonline.net> It is probably a capacitor. With nothing more than the markings and a general description it is really hard to specifically identify it. Where is it? What is it connected to? It is very likely NOT a resistor. There are hardly any resistors that come in a thin square package (none that I know of and I am an EE). Do you have any sort of test equipment? A DVM even? Erie no longer exists, but I know that they made capacitors when they did. I do not know whether they made MOVs but probably not. A picture would be nice... Dick Tasker Hal Kempthorne wrote: >--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Hal Kempthorne <hal_kempthorne@sbcglobal.net> > >I know I have already been told what it is. Can someone say for sure and tell me what the numbers mean? Where can I get another one? I don't see anything in Digikey catalog. > >I've been told it is a capacitor, a resistor and a MOV. > >hal > > >What the heck is this part? It is red, about half an inch square and about 1/16th thick plastic with two leads . > >Marked > >ERIE > >3.3 M > >100V > > > >


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    Time: 11:01:35 AM PST US
    From: "Jim Stone" <jrstone@insightbb.com>
    Subject: Re: PMA-4000 audio panel
    --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Jim Stone" <jrstone@insightbb.com> Thanks, Tunes are very important. Can you recommend a great unit? Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: "James E. Clark" <james@nextupventures.com> Subject: RE: AeroElectric-List: PMA-4000 audio panel > --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "James E. Clark" > <james@nextupventures.com> > > I can definitely tell the difference between stereo and mono. Especially > with good ANR headsets. > > You might want to get a stereo model now and not regret it later if you > plan > to listen to "tunes" in flight. > > James > > > that > > >


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    Time: 11:02:14 AM PST US
    From: "Jim Stone" <jrstone@insightbb.com>
    Subject: Re: PMA-4000 audio panel
    --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Jim Stone" <jrstone@insightbb.com> Alright, now to find a high quality Stereo unit. Thanks, Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: "Denis Walsh" <denis.walsh@comcast.net> Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: PMA-4000 audio panel > --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Denis Walsh > <denis.walsh@comcast.net> > > One man's opinion on stereo: > > I have a mono intercom and wish I had gone with stereo. > > My original thinking was as you said, high noise level in cockpit, plus > my ears are shot from overexposure to jet noise and aging of same. > > HOWEVER what has changed in this century is the ANR headsets, and > digital music. Whole nother ball game. Noise goes away. Music sounds > wonderful. > > Go for the stereo. Hang the cost. Full speed ahead. > > Unless of course you are just going to fly that rocket like a spam > can. Music is not essential for straight and level flight. > > Denis > On Feb 25, 2005, at 8:24 AM, Jim Stone wrote: > >> --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Jim Stone" >> <jrstone@insightbb.com> >> >> Can anyone recommend (or not), the PMA-4000 audio panel from PS >> engineering? >> >> I'll have two radios, one nav, and want to have a high quality ICS >> with music input. This unit is not stereo but I am under the >> impression that having stereo is not really important due to the high >> ambient noise levels. Is this true? >> >> Thanks, >> Jim >> Harmon Rocket >> final year (2nd anniversary) >> >> > > >


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    Time: 11:16:44 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: What is this device - again as I seriously doubt
    that it is a capicator
    From: "Matt Prather" <mprather@spro.net>
    <aeroelectric-list@matronics.com.doubt.that.it.is.a.capicator> --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Matt Prather" <mprather@spro.net> Agree.. And I would add that the particular value of the capacitor is not of any real concern. I am not even convinced that a capacitor that small will have a beneficial effect on system performance. Capacitors are added to a bus to reduce noise propagation at a particular point on the bus. Generally, the smaller the capacitor, because of reduced lead inductance, the higher the frequency that it is useful for filtering. Conversely, the smaller the capacitor, the less it is able to damp the large voltage swings that may be on a power bus. I would guess that a cap that is as physically small as you have described would be most effective at reducing electrical noise in the RF frequency range. Chances are that it was added to combat some kind of noise that was audible on the radio. Is the capacitor damaged? Getting the absolutely correct capacitor value is only critical where you intend to design a resonant circuit which will oscillate at a particular frequency, or timing. Regards, Matt- > --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Richard Tasker > <retasker@optonline.net> > > It is probably a capacitor. With nothing more than the markings and a > general description it is really hard to specifically identify it. > Where is it? What is it connected to? > > It is very likely NOT a resistor. There are hardly any resistors that > come in a thin square package (none that I know of and I am an EE). > > Do you have any sort of test equipment? A DVM even? > > Erie no longer exists, but I know that they made capacitors when they > did. I do not know whether they made MOVs but probably not. > > A picture would be nice... > > Dick Tasker > > Hal Kempthorne wrote: > >>--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Hal Kempthorne >> <hal_kempthorne@sbcglobal.net> >> >>I know I have already been told what it is. Can someone say for sure >> and tell me what the numbers mean? Where can I get another one? I >> don't see anything in Digikey catalog. >> >>I've been told it is a capacitor, a resistor and a MOV. >> >>hal >> >> >>What the heck is this part? It is red, about half an inch square and >> about 1/16th thick plastic with two leads . >> >>Marked >> >>ERIE >> >>3.3 M >> >>100V >> >> >> >> > >


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    Time: 11:22:15 AM PST US
    From: "James E. Clark" <james@nextupventures.com>
    Subject: PMA-4000 audio panel
    --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "James E. Clark" <james@nextupventures.com> Cannot recommend a great unit as I don't know yet. I am considering the Garmin (because the radios are gonna be Garmin) GMA340 ***BUT*** may revisit and go with PS Engineering. See http://www.ps-engineering.com/audio.shtml . In two airplanes at present I use the DRE 244e and it works great. But it is not an audio panel ... just an intercom. James {SNIP} | Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: PMA-4000 audio panel | | --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Jim Stone" | <jrstone@insightbb.com> | | Thanks, Tunes are very important. | Can you recommend a great unit? | Jim | ----- Original Message ----- {SNIP}


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    Time: 11:27:41 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: What is this device - again as I seriously doubt
    that it is a capicator
    From: "Matt Prather" <mprather@spro.net>
    --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Matt Prather" <mprather@spro.net> One more thing... I found a pretty handy guide for identifying capacitor values. http://www.twysted-pair.com/capidcds.htm Looks to me like you have a 3.3uF cap there. Google is great. Regards, Matt- > --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Richard Tasker > <retasker@optonline.net> > > It is probably a capacitor. With nothing more than the markings and a > general description it is really hard to specifically identify it. > Where is it? What is it connected to? > > It is very likely NOT a resistor. There are hardly any resistors that > come in a thin square package (none that I know of and I am an EE). > > Do you have any sort of test equipment? A DVM even? > > Erie no longer exists, but I know that they made capacitors when they > did. I do not know whether they made MOVs but probably not. > > A picture would be nice... > > Dick Tasker > > Hal Kempthorne wrote: > >>--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Hal Kempthorne >> <hal_kempthorne@sbcglobal.net> >> >>I know I have already been told what it is. Can someone say for sure >> and tell me what the numbers mean? Where can I get another one? I >> don't see anything in Digikey catalog. >> >>I've been told it is a capacitor, a resistor and a MOV. >> >>hal >> >> >>What the heck is this part? It is red, about half an inch square and >> about 1/16th thick plastic with two leads . >> >>Marked >> >>ERIE >> >>3.3 M >> >>100V >> >> >> >> > >


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    Time: 11:32:51 AM PST US
    From: "Richard Garforth" <richard@hawk.flyer.co.uk>
    Subject: ND Alternators
    --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Richard Garforth" <richard@hawk.flyer.co.uk> Ken, Thanks for the ideas - unfortunately whoever rebuilds these Alternators for Vans blasts the numbers away when they clean up the casings ! Richard


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    Time: 11:36:14 AM PST US
    From: Mickey Coggins <mick-matronics@rv8.ch>
    Subject: transponder antenna cable near other cables?
    --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Mickey Coggins <mick-matronics@rv8.ch> Hi, The most convenient routing for my transponder antenna cable is along with cables for my flap motor cables, autopilot servo cables, and aileron trim cables. Does anyone know if this might cause any problems with electrical interference? Thanks, Mickey -- Mickey Coggins http://www.rv8.ch/ #82007 Wiring


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    Time: 11:42:10 AM PST US
    From: Mickey Coggins <mick-matronics@rv8.ch>
    Subject: Re: PMA-4000 audio panel
    --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Mickey Coggins <mick-matronics@rv8.ch> I'm also considering the Garmin GMA 340. It's not too expensive, actually cheaper than the equivalent PMA unit, and seems to do a lot. All our club's Pipers have them, and they seem to work fine. It is really overkill for what I need, but I can't find a cheap stereo equivalent of the PMA-4000, unfortunately. Mickey James E. Clark wrote: > --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "James E. Clark" <james@nextupventures.com> > > Cannot recommend a great unit as I don't know yet. > > I am considering the Garmin (because the radios are gonna be Garmin) GMA340 > ***BUT*** may revisit and go with PS Engineering. > > See http://www.ps-engineering.com/audio.shtml . > > In two airplanes at present I use the DRE 244e and it works great. But it is > not an audio panel ... just an intercom. > > James > > > {SNIP} > > {SNIP} > -- Mickey Coggins http://www.rv8.ch/ #82007 Wiring


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    Time: 03:05:43 PM PST US
    From: Ken <klehman@albedo.net>
    Subject: Re: Battery cables
    --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Ken <klehman@albedo.net> Mine are all parallel. It's neater and just as effective as twisting AFAIK. Either way should cancel the magnetic effects. The only ones I twisted were the AC feed from the PM alternator to make sure they stayed close together when bundled. Ken Angier & Gynna wrote: >--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Angier & Gynna <N2811A@comcast.net> > >The battery is behind the co-pilot seat in my Lancair. When installing the +/- cables going forward through the firewall, should these cables have several twists or is it ok to simply run then parallel to eachother? > > >>Thanks, >> >>Angier Ames >> >>


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    Time: 03:05:44 PM PST US
    From: Ken <klehman@albedo.net>
    Subject: Re: ND Alternators
    --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Ken <klehman@albedo.net> Too bad, that probably turns it into a throw away item and it says a lot about the rebuilder. Bet the rebuilders name is not on it either then! Ken Richard Garforth wrote: >--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Richard Garforth" <richard@hawk.flyer.co.uk> > >Ken, > >Thanks for the ideas - unfortunately whoever rebuilds these Alternators for Vans blasts the numbers away when they clean up the casings ! > > >Richard > > >


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    Time: 06:04:24 PM PST US
    From: "Mark Hall" <mhall67@carolina.rr.com>
    Subject: equipment amp loads?
    --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Mark Hall" <mhall67@carolina.rr.com> I thought some time ago I saw a list on the web that had amp load for equipment (ie Garmin engine monoters and such)? Could any one point me to that sight? Regards, Mark


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    Time: 07:01:49 PM PST US
    From: "cgalley" <cgalley@qcbc.org>
    Subject: Re: [Stinson] Genave marker receiver pinout?
    --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "cgalley" <cgalley@qcbc.org> http://www.aeroelectric.com/Installation_Data Bob Nuckolls has a data base of radio pin-outs/ But it doesn't seem to be on the site. I am forwarding your request to the aeroelectric-list@matronics list Cy Galley EAA Safety Programs Editor Always looking for ideas and articles for EAA Sport Pilot ----- Original Message ----- From: fixbritishcars To: Stinson@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, February 25, 2005 9:27 AM Subject: [Stinson] Genave marker receiver pinout? I an have a Genave Delta 300 marker beacon receiver that I want to install in my Stinson. I have no diagram for it. Does anyone have the pin out for this? If so please e-mail me, phone me 314-808-0281 or fax inro to 573-237-3605. MANY THANKS Andy 8968K ADVERTISEMENT a.. To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Stinson/ b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: Stinson-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com


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    Time: 07:34:11 PM PST US
    From: Richard Riley <Richard@RILEY.NET>
    Subject: Re: Air pressure switch
    --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Richard Riley <Richard@Riley.net> I have a pamphlet from UMA instruments saying they have such a switch, but I don't find it on their website. At 02:48 AM 2/25/05, you wrote: >--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Gianni Zuliani" <gz@comgz.com> > >Good morning listers, >On my Stag-EZRG canard I'd like to install a device which prevents >retracting the landing gear below 90 Kt and arms an alarm in case my >airspeed goes below 90 Kt and my landing gear is still retracted. To this >end I'm looking for an air pressure switch which senses very low anemometric >pressure ( I've calculated 0.2 PSI). >Has anybody already faced this application or searched for such a switch? >Thanks.


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    Time: 09:37:45 PM PST US
    From: "Scott Winn (Matronics List)" <swmat@cox.net>
    Subject: Switch type
    --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Scott Winn (Matronics List)" <swmat@cox.net> I have a switching application on my panel that selects between Off, Primary and Aux. The switch I selected to perform the switching is a 2-1 type switch. The problem I am having is that everything else on my panel is pointed down for the off positsion. The 2-1 switch has it's off position in the middle which isn't what I want. I would really like to be consistent with the operation of the switches on my panel so that when something is turned Off, it is pointed down. I need a DP3T switch to perform this task, but B & C doesn't carry one. It is also very important to me to have identical size and feel of switches on the panel, so I'd prefer to get a switch that exactly matches the size, shape and operation of the B & C switches. Since I ordered a bunch of switches from them, I Iooked up the manufacturer and it appears that they do not manufacture a DP3T switch. Does anyone know of a DP3T switch that has the same size bat toggle as the B&C switches? --Scott




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