---------------------------------------------------------- AeroElectric-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Tue 04/17/05:10 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 05:05 AM - Re: Do I need an audio panel? (Charles Heathco) 2. 05:15 AM - Re: Do I need an audio panel? (Ron Brown) 3. 06:01 AM - Re: AOA Pro and Garmin GMA340 (John Schroeder) 4. 06:59 AM - Re: Do I need an audio panel? (Earl_Schroeder) 5. 12:48 PM - Garmin Jeppssen Database (DAVID REEL) 6. 02:35 PM - Re: Garmin Jeppssen Database (ivorphillips) 7. 03:41 PM - Re: Garmin Jeppssen Database (rd2@evenlink.com) 8. 06:45 PM - Re: Do I need an audio panel? () 9. 07:31 PM - Electrical cutting out--problem solved (dave) 10. 09:34 PM - [Please Read] Matronics Email Server Upgrade Complete! (Matt Dralle) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 05:05:36 AM PST US From: "Charles Heathco" Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: Do I need an audio panel? --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Charles Heathco" Toney, Its certainly possible to have 2 nav/comms without an audio pnl., and have music. In my RV6a I only have one comm and a mono Icom without the external jack wired, but my cherokee has dual nav/coms + ADF and it is controlled with a single swt on the pnl with a jack on the pnl for music input which goes into the Icom and is muted if radio xmit or rec.Adf comes thru radio 2 swt side (turn up vol and turn radio 2 vol down) I didnt wire it so can tell you how. I bought a set of newere radios along with a Collins audio pnl, which I have never installed. If you want a pnl, I will sell you the collins for $150, I bought it working as removed. Charlie heathco ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 05:15:40 AM PST US From: "Ron Brown" Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: Do I need an audio panel? --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Ron Brown" I am using PS Engineering's PMA4000. It is compact, highly functional and doesn't have all of the buttons and switches that you don't need. I have 2 Coms and one Nav wired into my PMA4000. See http://www.avionicswest.com/pma4000.html Price is $775 or less if you shop around. Your requirements listed: 1. Have an intercom 2. Listen to stereo music 3. Have the music mute for radio traffic or intercom communications 4. Hear audio warnings from my AOA and engine monitor 5. Switch radios, if I decide to use a second comm. Radio It does all that you ask except stereo. It does have an audio input that is automatically muted (or the auto mute can be disabled for those times that you want back ground music but still listen to ATC.). If you must have stereo music (instead of mono), Aeroelectric has a do it your self isolation amp that you can build: http://www.aeroelectric.com/Catalog/AEC/9009/9009-700E.pdf I have been very pleased with my PMA4000. I have my Monroy traffic monitor, uEncoder, and alarm panel, and wired into the audio. Ronnie Brown Velocity 173 RG ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 06:01:15 AM PST US Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: AOA Pro and Garmin GMA340 From: "John Schroeder" --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "John Schroeder" Walter - We have the Proprietary Software Sport model AOA from Jim Franz. We also have the Garmin 340 (and the other stack items) that we got from John Stark at Stark Avionics in Columbus, GA. He did all the wiring between the stack and to other items we specified. Our problem was that the Dynon D-10A has an input to the 340; as did the Garmin 330 Modes S, the TruTrak autopilot and the AOA. John wired the the transponder directly to the 340 at pin 31 of Plug #1 ("Altitude Warning In") and the ground goes to Pin 32 ("Altitude Warning Return"). This is for unswitched audio input to the 340 and can also be used for other audio inputs. The cabling to the Dynon (Encoder Data) also contained one shielded two wire that was labelled "EFIS Audio" and pinned to the same pins on the 340. So, we had lots of questions as to how to get the other two pieces and the Dynon wired into the 340. If you do have other audio inputs, John said to put a 300 ohm resistor in the signal line of each unit and parallel the signals to pin 31 of plug 1 on the 340. This resistor has something to do with the impedances and signal. The grounds go to pin 32. An alternative to unswitched audio is noted in the 340 manual. You can route it thru the ADF Radio pins 7 (hi) & 8 (lo) of Plug 1 on the 340. But, you then have the input on a switch (ADF) and can turn it on or off. However you then have to placard the ADF button accordingly. Hope this helps. John > --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Walter Tondu > I'm a bit stumped. Specifically, which pin on the Garmin 340 does the > AOA audio get wired too? It's the last wire I have to run. It's > killing me. ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 06:59:14 AM PST US From: Earl_Schroeder Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: Do I need an audio panel? --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Earl_Schroeder Hi Tony, You might check out the RST kit site if you enjoy building.. http://www.rst-engr.com/rst/catalog/audio_panel.html Earl Tony Johnson wrote: >--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Tony Johnson" > >I am considering the options for configuring the RV8A that I am building, >with respect to controlling the intercom, radios and audio inputs. Perhaps >some of you who have been where I am now in the process can share your >experiences and thoughts. > > >I have not yet decided whether to have two panel mounted com radios, or have >only one and use a handheld as a backup. That decision my drive other >decisions. I am trying to figure out if I need an audio panel, or whether I >can save that expense and panel space. I would like to be able to do the >following: > > >1. Have an intercom >2. Listen to stereo music >3. Have the music mute for radio traffic or intercom communications >4. Hear audio warnings from my AOA and engine monitor >5. Switch radios, if I decide to use a second comm. Radio > > >I know that there are audio panels that will allow me to do all of the >above, but they are expensive. There are intercoms that will do most of the >above. Dave Clark makes a small intercom that has stereo and can switch >between radios. It is about $700. I do not know if it will allow audio >inputs for warnings. > > >I am using an infinity grip, and would like to switch between radios and >flip-flop channels using the cooley hat switch. Even if I could arrange to >do that without an audio panel, how would I be able to tell which radio I am >connected to? Perhaps a light on the panel? > > >It may be simpler just to go with an audio panel in the long run, if I >decide to use two comm radios. If I use only one panel mounted radio I will >save the cost of both the second radio, and the audio panel. I am leaning >in that direction. > > >Any input or suggestions would be appreciated. > > >Tony Johnson > >RV8A Orlando > > > > ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 12:48:15 PM PST US From: "DAVID REEL" Subject: AeroElectric-List: Garmin Jeppssen Database --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "DAVID REEL" Attempting to get the latest database for my GPS90, the j90-amrn-0306.exe file produces the message "not a valid win32 application" when I try to execute it in Windows 2000. Has anyone overcome a problem like this that could steer me in the right direction? Email to Garmin has gone unanswered for quite some time. Dave Reel - still want to use my old GPS. ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 02:35:06 PM PST US From: "ivorphillips" Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: Garmin Jeppssen Database --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "ivorphillips" I read somewhere that garmin were withdrawing support for the early handheld GPS's, That may include the Database updates, Ivor Phillips XS486 London UK From: "DAVID REEL" Subject: AeroElectric-List: Garmin Jeppssen Database > --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "DAVID REEL" > > Attempting to get the latest database for my GPS90, the j90-amrn-0306.exe > file produces the message "not a valid win32 application" when I try to > execute it in Windows 2000. Has anyone overcome a problem like this that > could steer me in the right direction? Email to Garmin has gone > unanswered for quite some time. > > Dave Reel - still want to use my old GPS. > > > ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 03:41:37 PM PST US From: rd2@evenlink.com Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: Garmin Jeppssen Database --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: rd2@evenlink.com Dave- This does not necessarily look as what the message says. Win2K handles win16 and dos calls. I'd call Gamrin at 800-800-1020. Rumen do not archive _____________________Original message __________________________ (received from DAVID REEL; Date: 03:42 PM 4/17/2005 -0400) --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "DAVID REEL" Attempting to get the latest database for my GPS90, the j90-amrn-0306.exe file produces the message "not a valid win32 application" when I try to execute it in Windows 2000. Has anyone overcome a problem like this that could steer me in the right direction? Email to Garmin has gone unanswered for quite some time. Dave Reel - still want to use my old GPS. ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 06:45:39 PM PST US From: Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: Do I need an audio panel? --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: RST Engineering makes a audio panel/intercom kit that may work for what you are doing. Here's a link to their website. http://www.rst-engr.com good luck, Kent Orr > > From: "Tony Johnson" > Date: 2005/04/17 Sun AM 02:28:32 GMT > To: > Subject: AeroElectric-List: Do I need an audio panel? > > ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 07:31:54 PM PST US From: "dave" Subject: AeroElectric-List: Electrical cutting out--problem solved --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "dave" I've been chasing an intermittent power failure "blinking" or a 2 second cutout of power enough to lose radio, reset gps flight planning and overall nuisiance. I've been checking wire connections, possible loose terminals/wires. The trouble until recently has been difficult to troubleshoot since it took a while to determine exactly everything that was cutting out. Everything on the ESS buss was losing power for just an instant. Sometimes this would happen as I keyed the mic to transmit. I recently shut down everything to load a passenger and when turning on master, all power going to items on the ESS buss were dead. Further checking revealed no power through the ESS buss bridge diode. One section of the AC to + terminal was open, connecting to the other AC input restored power to ESS buss. Dave Ford RV6 ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 09:34:32 PM PST US From: Matt Dralle Subject: AeroElectric-List: [Please Read] Matronics Email Server Upgrade Complete! --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Matt Dralle 9:24pm PDT 4/17/2005 Dear Listers, The upgrade of the Matronics Email Server can be considered complete at this time. All known issues related to the upgrade process have been resolved and email services are running normal. The Nightly Digest processing has not yet been tested and will wait for tonight's update. If you encounter any odd behavior with respect to the Matronics Email Server over the next few days, please contact me via email at dralle@matronics.com or if that fails try dralle@speakeasy.net. Thanks to everyone for being patient through this arduous process of a major system upgrade! 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