---------------------------------------------------------- AeroElectric-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sat 05/28/05: 12 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 04:53 AM - Re: Securing small wires (rd2@evenlink.com) 2. 06:35 AM - Headset pains (Larry McFarland) 3. 07:05 AM - Re: Headset pains (Ken) 4. 07:27 AM - Re: Headset pains (Earl_Schroeder) 5. 09:39 AM - Re: Headset pains (Kenneth Melvin) 6. 10:18 AM - Re: Headset pains (Dj Merrill) 7. 10:43 AM - Re: Headset pains (Cory Emberson) 8. 10:54 AM - Re: Headset pains (Cory Emberson) 9. 11:35 AM - Re: Securing small wires (rd2@evenlink.com) 10. 11:35 AM - Re: Headset pains (Mike Larkin) 11. 05:16 PM - Re: Re: AeroElectric-List Digest: toggle switch action? (Jim Stone) 12. 05:24 PM - (no subject) (Graham Singleton) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 04:53:36 AM PST US From: rd2@evenlink.com Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: Securing small wires --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: rd2@evenlink.com >The best was E-6000 or "Sho-Goo" Where are E-6000 and "sho-goo" sold? (Don't seem to be able to find them at my ususal local sources.) Rumen do not archive ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 06:35:36 AM PST US From: Larry McFarland Subject: AeroElectric-List: Headset pains --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Larry McFarland Hi Guys, My wife is a small gal and the headphone bows become a vise on the ears and pain at the top of the skull after too short a time. Has anyone seen a set of headphones that are lighter and smaller that were capable of passive noise cancellation in a light enclosed aircraft? Sennheiser have a set that has a double bows but are designed for jets. Not sure if they would be correct for conventional engine noise. Any recommendations for this problem? Larry McFarland - 601HDS ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 07:05:52 AM PST US From: Ken Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: Headset pains --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Ken I suspect that the "jet" ones just let them advertise a higher attenuation number at the higher frequency and will be fine. There are a couple of other possible issues though. Many headsets do not have enough depth in the ear cups for me and produce the symptoms you describe. The lightspeeds such as the -15 have deep comfortable ear cups and a nice headband. If you can possibly borrow a set to try (even though they are active) you might (like me) consider the price to be good value compared to Sennheiser. I don't find the double bows to be an advantage and I don't spread them apart anyway. Ken Larry McFarland wrote: >--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Larry McFarland > >Hi Guys, >My wife is a small gal and the headphone bows become a vise on the ears >and pain >at the top of the skull after too short a time. Has anyone seen a set >of headphones >that are lighter and smaller that were capable of passive noise >cancellation in a >light enclosed aircraft? Sennheiser have a set that has a double bows >but are >designed for jets. Not sure if they would be correct for conventional >engine noise. >Any recommendations for this problem? > >Larry McFarland - 601HDS > > ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 07:27:33 AM PST US From: Earl_Schroeder Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: Headset pains --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Earl_Schroeder Hi Larry, I would recommend Sigtronics with the 'child' band. They supply adult and child band sizes in one package. Mine work fine. Earl Larry McFarland wrote: > Has anyone seen a set of headphones >that are lighter and smaller that were capable of passive noise >cancellation in a light enclosed aircraft? > > ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 09:39:18 AM PST US From: Kenneth Melvin Subject: RE: AeroElectric-List: Headset pains --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Kenneth Melvin Check out Pantherelectronics.com Kenneth Melvin N36KM -----Original Message----- From: owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Larry McFarland Subject: AeroElectric-List: Headset pains --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Larry McFarland --> Hi Guys, My wife is a small gal and the headphone bows become a vise on the ears and pain at the top of the skull after too short a time. Has anyone seen a set of headphones that are lighter and smaller that were capable of passive noise cancellation in a light enclosed aircraft? Sennheiser have a set that has a double bows but are designed for jets. Not sure if they would be correct for conventional engine noise. Any recommendations for this problem? Larry McFarland - 601HDS ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 10:18:50 AM PST US From: Dj Merrill Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: Headset pains --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Dj Merrill > Hi Guys, > My wife is a small gal and the headphone bows become a vise on the ears and > pain at the top of the skull after too short a time. Has anyone seen a set > of headphones that are lighter and smaller that were capable of passive > noise cancellation in a light enclosed aircraft? Sennheiser have a set that > has a double bows but are designed for jets. Not sure if they would be > correct for conventional engine noise. > Any recommendations for this problem? > > Larry McFarland - 601HDS Hi Larry, How about no earcups, and no headband? Check out these from LightSpeed: http://www.anrheadsets.com/productsL1.asp -Dj -- Dj Merrill Sportsman 2+2 Builder #7118 "TSA: Totally Screwing Aviation" ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 10:43:57 AM PST US From: "Cory Emberson" Subject: RE: AeroElectric-List: Headset pains --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Cory Emberson" Hello - Quiet Technologies (www.quiettechnologies.com), Aloft Technologies (www.clarityaloft.com) and Panther Electronics (www.pantherelectronics.com) all have similar no-band-or-earcup headsets. I saw the L1s at Sun n Fun, and they are light as a feather! best, Cory -----Original Message----- From: owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Dj Merrill Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: Headset pains --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Dj Merrill > Hi Guys, > My wife is a small gal and the headphone bows become a vise on the ears and > pain at the top of the skull after too short a time. Has anyone seen a set > of headphones that are lighter and smaller that were capable of passive > noise cancellation in a light enclosed aircraft? Sennheiser have a set that > has a double bows but are designed for jets. Not sure if they would be > correct for conventional engine noise. > Any recommendations for this problem? > > Larry McFarland - 601HDS Hi Larry, How about no earcups, and no headband? Check out these from LightSpeed: http://www.anrheadsets.com/productsL1.asp -Dj -- Dj Merrill Sportsman 2+2 Builder #7118 "TSA: Totally Screwing Aviation" ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 10:54:30 AM PST US From: "Cory Emberson" Subject: RE: AeroElectric-List: Headset pains --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Cory Emberson" P.S. To Larry - my headsets are a nice set of Peltors that are incredibly comfortable, even for long trips. I'm a small gal, too, and don't like the heavy feel of David Clam- ... Clarks. They feel like they weigh more than my head! best, Cory -----Original Message----- From: owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Ken Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: Headset pains --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Ken I suspect that the "jet" ones just let them advertise a higher attenuation number at the higher frequency and will be fine. There are a couple of other possible issues though. Many headsets do not have enough depth in the ear cups for me and produce the symptoms you describe. The lightspeeds such as the -15 have deep comfortable ear cups and a nice headband. If you can possibly borrow a set to try (even though they are active) you might (like me) consider the price to be good value compared to Sennheiser. I don't find the double bows to be an advantage and I don't spread them apart anyway. Ken Larry McFarland wrote: >--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Larry McFarland > >Hi Guys, >My wife is a small gal and the headphone bows become a vise on the ears >and pain >at the top of the skull after too short a time. Has anyone seen a set >of headphones >that are lighter and smaller that were capable of passive noise >cancellation in a >light enclosed aircraft? Sennheiser have a set that has a double bows >but are >designed for jets. Not sure if they would be correct for conventional >engine noise. >Any recommendations for this problem? > >Larry McFarland - 601HDS > > ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 11:35:40 AM PST US From: rd2@evenlink.com Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: Securing small wires --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: rd2@evenlink.com Thanks. This was answered in detail in the next messages, sorry I had not kept up. Rumen do not archive _____________________Original message __________________________ (received from rd2@evenlink.com; Date: 07:43 AM 5/28/2005 -0400) --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: rd2@evenlink.com >The best was E-6000 or "Sho-Goo" Where are E-6000 and "sho-goo" sold? (Don't seem to be able to find them at my ususal local sources.) Rumen do not archive ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 11:35:41 AM PST US From: "Mike Larkin" Subject: RE: AeroElectric-List: Headset pains --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Mike Larkin" I have tried them all.... The Bose 10X is very comfortable.............. A little on the pricey...... Mike Larkin -----Original Message----- From: owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Larry McFarland Subject: AeroElectric-List: Headset pains --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Larry McFarland Hi Guys, My wife is a small gal and the headphone bows become a vise on the ears and pain at the top of the skull after too short a time. Has anyone seen a set of headphones that are lighter and smaller that were capable of passive noise cancellation in a light enclosed aircraft? Sennheiser have a set that has a double bows but are designed for jets. Not sure if they would be correct for conventional engine noise. Any recommendations for this problem? Larry McFarland - 601HDS -- -- ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 05:16:55 PM PST US From: "Jim Stone" Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: Re: AeroElectric-List Digest: toggle switch action? --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Jim Stone" > > Before we had a low cost offering for the 2-10 functionality, > all the Z-figures recommended a 2-3/breaker combination for > DC power control. > > Bob . . . > > Hey Bob, So that I am clear on this, does a 2-10 switch replace the 2-3 switch plus breaker for field? If so, then a second 2-10 switch will operate the AUX batt manager. Thanks, Jim HRII > > > ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 05:24:30 PM PST US From: Graham Singleton Subject: AeroElectric-List: (no subject) --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Graham Singleton The stuff is sold under a ton of brand names including GOOP who sells lots of stickums besides the E-6000. Hobby lobby and most hardware stores handle E-6000 as does Walmart in the hobbies/crafts department. Bob isn't this stuff a "moisture cure polyurethane"? There may be solvent too but once that has gone the urethane reacts with atmospheric water vapour and cures, eventually it will be sovent resistant. Graham