---------------------------------------------------------- AeroElectric-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Wed 09/28/05: 26 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 04:26 AM - Re: (Sam Chambers) 2. 04:26 AM - Re: (Sam Chambers) 3. 04:27 AM - Re: switch tabs (Rodney Dunham) 4. 05:37 AM - Re: Hobbs meter wiring (Charlie Kuss) 5. 05:43 AM - Re: (John Schroeder) 6. 05:46 AM - GMA340 and marker beacon (bob rundle) 7. 06:04 AM - Re: Hobbs meter wiring (Werner Schneider) 8. 06:24 AM - Re: GMA340 and marker beacon (Stewart, Michael (ISS Atlanta)) 9. 06:56 AM - Wiring details for Vans 60A alternator (Glen Matejcek) 10. 07:11 AM - Re: (Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis)) 11. 07:29 AM - ND two-lead alternator question (Mickey Coggins) 12. 08:12 AM - Re: ND two-lead alternator question (Robert L. Nuckolls, III) 13. 08:13 AM - Re: ND two-lead alternator question (Bob White) 14. 08:13 AM - Solid State Gyros (Fox5flyer) 15. 08:13 AM - Re: Wiring details for Vans 60A alternator (Mickey Coggins) 16. 08:20 AM - Re: Not quite electrical (Fiveonepw@aol.com) 17. 09:08 AM - Re: Not quite electrical (Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis)) 18. 09:22 AM - Re: Solid State Gyros (Phil Birkelbach) 19. 10:10 AM - Re: Solid State Gyros (John Schroeder) 20. 11:22 AM - Re: Not quite electrical (Fiveonepw@aol.com) 21. 11:47 AM - Re: Solid State Gyros (Earl_Schroeder) 22. 01:26 PM - Re: Solid State Gyros (AI Nut) 23. 01:53 PM - Re: Solid State Gyros (Mark Cochran) 24. 05:18 PM - Noise Clarification (Roger Evenson) 25. 05:59 PM - Re: Solid State Gyros (Fiveonepw@aol.com) 26. 09:59 PM - switch washers (bob noffs) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 04:26:15 AM PST US From: "Sam Chambers" Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Sam Chambers" Put the holes and washers on the back side of the panel, don't drill thru-holes. Sam Chambers Long-EZ N775AM Glasgow, KY ----- Original Message ----- From: "bob noffs" Subject: AeroElectric-List: > --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "bob noffs" > > hi all, > i have the washers for toggle switches that have the small tab which locks > into a 1/8'' hole drilled in the ins. panel. before i drill all these > 1/8'' holes in a so far perfect panel does anyone have any opinions or > experience with this system? can the holes be hidden with the control > labels? etc. seems like a good idea to keep all the switches from turning. > thanks for any input. > bob noffs > > > ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 04:26:15 AM PST US From: "Sam Chambers" Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Sam Chambers" Oh, yeah, your panel may be too thin for my previous posting. In that case, follow Bob's advice (always a good idea). Sam Chambers ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert L. Nuckolls, III" Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: > --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Robert L. Nuckolls, III" > > > At 10:06 PM 9/27/2005 -0500, you wrote: > >>--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "bob noffs" >> >>hi all, >> i have the washers for toggle switches that have the small tab which >> locks into a 1/8'' hole drilled in the ins. panel. before i drill all >> these 1/8'' holes in a so far perfect panel does anyone have any opinions >> or experience with this system? can the holes be hidden with the control >> labels? etc. seems like a good idea to keep all the switches from >> turning. >> thanks for any input. >> bob noffs > > I recommend them. You can put anti rotation washers on the back > side of the panel, trim the tabs to be flush with the front > surface and the cover them with an engraved overlay that > labels the switches. > > Bob . . . > > > ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 04:27:43 AM PST US From: "Rodney Dunham" Subject: RE: AeroElectric-List: switch tabs --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Rodney Dunham" Bob The only thing I would add to the others is this. Lay out the small 1/8" holes at the same time you lay out the switch holes. In other words, draw out the whole switch plan, including the tab holes, before drilling the first hole. I drilled the big holes without thinking ahead and it is very difficult to get the small holes lined up just right afterwords. You can get the exact dimensions in the Connection. I think it's in the chapter on switches. Imagine that :o) One other tip: If you use the ON-ON, I think it's switch 3-3, you can drill the tab hole below the switch hole and hide it without losing the up-is-on architecture on the panel. You just have to remember that the pin numbers are now upside down but that's easy, the tab reminds you. Rodney in Tennessee >From: "bob noffs" >Reply-To: aeroelectric-list@matronics.com >To: "aeroelectric list" >Subject: AeroElectric-List: Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2005 22:06:16 -0500 > >--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "bob noffs" > >hi all, > i have the washers for toggle switches that have the small tab which >locks into a 1/8'' hole drilled in the ins. panel. before i drill all these >1/8'' holes in a so far perfect panel does anyone have any opinions or >experience with this system? can the holes be hidden with the control >labels? etc. seems like a good idea to keep all the switches from turning. > thanks for any input. > bob noffs > > ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 05:37:53 AM PST US From: Charlie Kuss Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: Hobbs meter wiring --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Charlie Kuss Werner, Could you give us the Manufacturer and model number of the switch you are using? Charlie Kuss >--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Werner Schneider > >I'm using a pressure switch adjusted a tad over the Vs0 hooked into the >pitot line to get flying time. > >br > >Werner > >Rodney Dunham wrote: > > >--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Rodney Dunham" > > > > >I've noticed on the Rotax 912UL wiring diagrams that the "L" pin on the VR > >is for a lamp which indicates charge and is usually only "on" at run-up > >speed or greater. > > > >Has anyone tried using this as a DCV source for the Hobbs meter? Seems it > >would give good "flying time" readings and, or course, no falsely high "I > >left the master switch on overnight" readings! Only engine on and RPM's > >above warm-up times. > > > >I was thinking run a wire to the meter with an in-line fuse, say 3 amps, > >would do the trick. > > > >Any thoughts? > > > >Rodney in Tennessee > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 05:43:57 AM PST US Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: From: "John Schroeder" --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "John Schroeder" Bob - Drill the holes for the tabs on the back of the panel and don't drill all the way through - if you can help it. John Schroeder On Tue, 27 Sep 2005 22:06:16 -0500, bob noffs wrote: > --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "bob noffs" > > > hi all, > i have the washers for toggle switches that have the small tab which > locks into a 1/8'' hole drilled in the ins. panel. before i drill all > these 1/8'' holes ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 05:46:45 AM PST US From: "bob rundle" Subject: AeroElectric-List: GMA340 and marker beacon --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "bob rundle" I have a GMA340 audio panel with marker beacon indicator lights. I also have a marker beacon antenna which is just a simple copper tape. How do I hook up the marker antenna to the GMA340? I see no antenna connection on the back of the unit. THKX BOB Dont just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/ ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 06:04:07 AM PST US From: Werner Schneider Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: Hobbs meter wiring --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Werner Schneider Hello Charlie, I will look it up when I'm at the plane next time and let the group no Werner do not archive Charlie Kuss wrote: >--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Charlie Kuss > >Werner, > Could you give us the Manufacturer and model number of the switch you are >using? >Charlie Kuss > > > > >>--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Werner Schneider >> >>I'm using a pressure switch adjusted a tad over the Vs0 hooked into the >>pitot line to get flying time. >> >>br >> >>Werner >> >>Rodney Dunham wrote: >> >> >> >>>--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Rodney Dunham" >>> >>> >> >> >> >>>I've noticed on the Rotax 912UL wiring diagrams that the "L" pin on the VR >>>is for a lamp which indicates charge and is usually only "on" at run-up >>>speed or greater. >>> >>>Has anyone tried using this as a DCV source for the Hobbs meter? Seems it >>>would give good "flying time" readings and, or course, no falsely high "I >>>left the master switch on overnight" readings! Only engine on and RPM's >>>above warm-up times. >>> >>>I was thinking run a wire to the meter with an in-line fuse, say 3 amps, >>>would do the trick. >>> >>>Any thoughts? >>> >>>Rodney in Tennessee >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> > > > > ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 06:24:25 AM PST US Subject: RE: AeroElectric-List: GMA340 and marker beacon From: "Stewart, Michael (ISS Atlanta)" --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Stewart, Michael (ISS Atlanta)" Referring to the installation manual, it is wired to pins 1&2 on connector J1. Page 15 of the manual. You do have one right? Well if you don't then you can d/l it here: http://www.garmin.com/manuals/GMA340AudioPanel_InstallationManual.pdf You can figure out how to d/l virtually any Garmin manual from rv list message number 124785. Or from here: http://www2.mstewart.net:8080/Downloads/howtogetagarminmanual.htm Enjoy, Mike -----Original Message----- From: owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of bob rundle Subject: AeroElectric-List: GMA340 and marker beacon --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "bob rundle" I have a GMA340 audio panel with marker beacon indicator lights. I also have a marker beacon antenna which is just a simple copper tape. How do I hook up the marker antenna to the GMA340? I see no antenna connection on the back of the unit. THKX BOB Dont just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/ ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 06:56:47 AM PST US From: "Glen Matejcek" Subject: AeroElectric-List: Wiring details for Vans 60A alternator --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Glen Matejcek" Hi Mickey- >My ND alternator does not have an independent bus sense >lead, but perhaps it is sensing this via the IGN terminal? > > >Mickey Coggins Try the Tech Dept of Worldwide Auto, 300 W. Brooker, Winchester, VA 22603, 540-667-9100. I gave them my part number, and they gave me all the specs I wanted. Very helpful folks. Glen Matejcek aerobubba@earthlink.net ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 07:11:29 AM PST US Subject: RE: AeroElectric-List: From: "Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis)" --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis)" I forgot the washers and use a dab of shoe glue or silicone sealant on the back of the panel to glue the switch in place...it won't rotate anywhere with that and it saves messing with holes and stuff and not hard to get off if you have to replace the switch. Frank -----Original Message----- From: owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of HCRV6@comcast.net Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: HCRV6@comcast.net I drilled a very small hole, #40 I think, and then used a needle file to elongate the hole just enough to fit the tang on the washer. The holes are competely filled by the tang and don't show at all. -- Harry Crosby RV-6 N16CX, 133 hours I drilled a very small hole, #40 I think, and then used a needle file to elongate the hole just enough to fit the tang on the washer. The holes are competely filled by the tang and don't show at all. -- Harry Crosby RV-6 N16CX, 133 hours ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 07:29:25 AM PST US From: Mickey Coggins Subject: AeroElectric-List: ND two-lead alternator question --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Mickey Coggins Thanks for all the help getting me up to speed on this alternator. Another quick question... I'd like to install the "idiot light" on my two-lead ND alternator, but I read earlier that I should either use a lamp or a a (100 ohm?) resistance. I've got some LEDs but I can't quite figure out if they have enough resistance. Here are some pictures of the LEDs. http://www.rv8.ch/article.php?story=2004112513263691 If I can't use a LED, I guess I'll just tie in the L terminal to the IGN terminal with the 100 ohm resistance. Thanks, Mickey -- Mickey Coggins http://www.rv8.ch/ #82007 finishing ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 08:12:10 AM PST US From: "Robert L. Nuckolls, III" Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: ND two-lead alternator question --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Robert L. Nuckolls, III" At 04:28 PM 9/28/2005 +0200, you wrote: >--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Mickey Coggins > > >Thanks for all the help getting me up to speed on >this alternator. Another quick question... > >I'd like to install the "idiot light" on my two-lead >ND alternator, but I read earlier that I should either >use a lamp or a a (100 ohm?) resistance. I've got some LEDs >but I can't quite figure out if they have enough >resistance. Here are some pictures of the LEDs. > > http://www.rv8.ch/article.php?story=2004112513263691 > >If I can't use a LED, I guess I'll just tie in the >L terminal to the IGN terminal with the 100 ohm resistance. > >Thanks, >Mickey Do you have a low voltage warning light? Again, like the so called "OV Protection" built into the regulator chip, there are reliability issues with using the same chip to annunciate non-operation as well as control an alternator. A battery voltage less than 13.0 volts says it all and this is best accomplished with a system that gets pre-flight tested and is independent of the alternator or its regulator. Bob . . . ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 08:13:31 AM PST US From: Bob White Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: ND two-lead alternator question --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Bob White Hi Mickey, Your LED says 12 V, 30 mA, so that's a 400 ohm load. I don't know if that's close enough to 100 ohms to make the alternator happy. To be sure, put a 120 to 150 ohm resistor in parallel with it and it will be about right. The resistor will be dissipating about a watt, so use at least 2 W resistor. Bob White On Wed, 28 Sep 2005 16:28:46 +0200 Mickey Coggins wrote: > --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Mickey Coggins > > Thanks for all the help getting me up to speed on > this alternator. Another quick question... > > I'd like to install the "idiot light" on my two-lead > ND alternator, but I read earlier that I should either > use a lamp or a a (100 ohm?) resistance. I've got some LEDs > but I can't quite figure out if they have enough > resistance. Here are some pictures of the LEDs. > > http://www.rv8.ch/article.php?story=2004112513263691 > > If I can't use a LED, I guess I'll just tie in the > L terminal to the IGN terminal with the 100 ohm resistance. > > Thanks, > Mickey > -- http://www.bob-white.com N93BD - Rotary Powered BD-4 (real soon) Prewired EC2 Cables - http://www.roblinphoto.com/shop/ ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 08:13:36 AM PST US From: "Fox5flyer" Subject: AeroElectric-List: Solid State Gyros --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Fox5flyer" Thanks for the feedback. My airplane has been flying for 5 years and I already have the Grand Rapids EIS system which I've been very happy with. Because of this I don't really need an instrument like the Dynon which has a lot of information, most of which I already have. If I were building a new panel I'd seriously consider the Dynon or Blue Mountain unit. All I really need is the AH gyro itself with perhaps heading/track. The most important thing is that it fit in a 3.125 instrument hole because I don't want to have to build a new panel. It'll fit in a hole that is already cut and plugged, waiting for me to decide what to do. Currently I'm considering the Trutrack ADI. http://www.trutrakflightsystems.com/ttfsinstruments.html Does anyone out there have real time behind this instrument that is pro or con? The thing I like most about it is that it's simple without a lot of other information that I don't need. What I need to ensure is that it will do the job I'm looking for, which is to get me out of trouble should that time ever arise. Deke Kitfox Series 5 Time: 04:22:32 AM PST US From: Rico Voss Subject: Re: Solid State Gyros > Take a serious look at their Model 4000 pictured on the > link below, for > the new Horizon EFIS. > http://hometown.aol.com/enginfosys/ > Seriously good people to deal with. Also-- I dont think I've seen mentioned the Blue Mountain EFIS-Lite/G3. Looks similar, but includes internal GPS w. moving map for the same $2800. Is it time for some competitive price-reductions?? See: http://www.bluemountainavionics.com/elitemain.php --Richard, 601-XL, Jab3300 ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 08:13:39 AM PST US From: Mickey Coggins Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: Wiring details for Vans 60A alternator --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Mickey Coggins >>My ND alternator does not have an independent bus sense >>lead, but perhaps it is sensing this via the IGN terminal? >> >> > > Try the Tech Dept of Worldwide Auto, 300 W. Brooker, Winchester, VA 22603, > 540-667-9100. I gave them my part number, and they gave me all the specs I > wanted. Very helpful folks. Hi Glen, Thanks for the pointer. I spoke to Jim in the tech department, and he told me that I should use the L terminal to turn on and off the alternator. Good info! I've also sent a e-mail to Denso to see if they have any data sheets or spec sheets or any technical information about this alternator. (Denso 100211-1680) Jim also said that the alternator wants to see a slightly lower voltage on the L terminal than that of the IG terminal. He also said that a LED is fine to use as an "idiot light". -- Mickey Coggins http://www.rv8.ch/ #82007 finishing ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 08:20:13 AM PST US From: Fiveonepw@aol.com Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: Not quite electrical --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Fiveonepw@aol.com In a message dated 9/27/05 6:42:52 PM Central Daylight Time, frank.hinde@hp.com writes: > So I thought I would ask....Is the Vert card compass completely > unworkable in this location? >>>> My PAI-700 works well in the position shown here: http://websites.expercraft.com/n51pw/index.php?q=log_entry&log_id=5256 Click on foto for larger view... Mark ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 09:08:27 AM PST US Subject: RE: AeroElectric-List: Not quite electrical From: "Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis)" --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis)" Thanks Mark.... I have much more avionics gear than you do near the hole for my compass I have delusions of flying lots of IFR when I get my ticket...:) What I really want to know is how much you paid for your paint job and how many coast of paint did they apply for such a beautiful job??? Thanks Frank -----Original Message----- From: owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Fiveonepw@aol.com Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: Not quite electrical --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Fiveonepw@aol.com In a message dated 9/27/05 6:42:52 PM Central Daylight Time, frank.hinde@hp.com writes: > So I thought I would ask....Is the Vert card compass completely > unworkable in this location? >>>> My PAI-700 works well in the position shown here: http://websites.expercraft.com/n51pw/index.php?q=log_entry&log_id=5256 Click on foto for larger view... Mark ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 09:22:59 AM PST US From: Phil Birkelbach Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: Solid State Gyros --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Phil Birkelbach My transition trainer had one in his RV-6. I flew in it for about 7 hours. I didn't look at it much but it did work well. All in all TruTrak has a stellar reputation. Their autopilots have been flying for years and I can't remember a single complaint about them. An attitude indicator would be childs play compared to an autopilot. I think that you'd be very happy with that instrument given the mission you describe. I know the Dynon is overkill but it does make a good backup and does fit in the 3.125 instrument hole. It's all a factor of $$$, but I'd never consider an instrument in my panel that had a spinning gyro with the options that we have. Pick one that fits and I'm sure that you'll be happy. Godspeed, Phil Birkelbach - Houston Texas RV-7 N727WB - Phase I http://www.myrv7.com Fox5flyer wrote: >--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Fox5flyer" > > Thanks for the feedback. My airplane has been flying for 5 years and I already have the Grand Rapids EIS system which I've been very happy with. Because of this I don't really need an instrument like the Dynon which has a lot of information, most of which I already have. If I were building a new panel I'd seriously consider the Dynon or Blue Mountain unit. All I really need is the AH gyro itself with perhaps heading/track. The most important thing is that it fit in a 3.125 instrument hole because I don't want to have to build a new panel. It'll fit in a hole that is already cut and plugged, waiting for me to decide what to do. >Currently I'm considering the Trutrack ADI. http://www.trutrakflightsystems.com/ttfsinstruments.html >Does anyone out there have real time behind this instrument that is pro or con? The thing I like most about it is that it's simple without a lot of other information that I don't need. What I need to ensure is that it will do the job I'm looking for, which is to get me out of trouble should that time ever arise. >Deke >Kitfox Series 5 > > >Time: 04:22:32 AM PST US From: Rico Voss Subject: Re: Solid State Gyros > > Take a serious look at their Model 4000 pictured on the > > link below, for > > the new Horizon EFIS. > > http://hometown.aol.com/enginfosys/ > > Seriously good people to deal with. > > Also-- > I dont think I've seen mentioned the Blue Mountain > EFIS-Lite/G3. Looks similar, but includes internal GPS w. > moving map for the same $2800. Is it time for some > competitive price-reductions?? See: > > http://www.bluemountainavionics.com/elitemain.php > > --Richard, 601-XL, Jab3300 > > > > > ________________________________ Message 19 ____________________________________ Time: 10:10:55 AM PST US Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: Solid State Gyros From: "John Schroeder" --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "John Schroeder" Deke - Anything from TruTrak is very good. A friend here installed the Digitrak with both roll & pitch and loves it. I have flown it and it is rock solid is some reasonably bad turbulence. We are installing the DFC 250 in our ES, but have not flown. The quality of everything is great. Their tech support is excellent and they fix anything that isn't right. Excellent company. Hope this helps. John Schroeder On Wed, 28 Sep 2005 11:13:14 -0400, Fox5flyer wrote: > Currently I'm considering the Trutrack ADI. > http://www.trutrakflightsystems.com/ttfsinstruments.html > Does anyone out there have real time behind this instrument that is pro > or con? -- ________________________________ Message 20 ____________________________________ Time: 11:22:31 AM PST US From: Fiveonepw@aol.com Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: Not quite electrical --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Fiveonepw@aol.com In a message dated 9/28/05 11:09:54 AM Central Daylight Time, frank.hinde@hp.com writes: > What I really want to know is how much you paid for your paint job and > how many coast of paint did they apply for such a beautiful job??? >>> Thanks, Frank! I've gotten a lot of the same from most folks who've seen it, and I'm purty durn tickled too. Bobby Potts at TCL done the honors, and it's one coat color, then trim, one coat clear (Dupont Chromabase). Sure makes a difference when someone who knows what they're doing is on the job. Damage was $7K. See: http://websites.expercraft.com/n51pw/index.php?q=log_entry&log_id=5270 for the rrrrrrrest of the story (click "next>>" at top of each page for subsequent log entries) Mark do not archive ________________________________ Message 21 ____________________________________ Time: 11:47:43 AM PST US From: Earl_Schroeder Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: Solid State Gyros --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Earl_Schroeder My Lancair has one that has an external GPS [mouse type] to provide heading. That and the Alt hold [AlTrak] are the two most liked items in the aircraft. If you have any specific questions, let me know. Earl Fox5flyer wrote: >Currently I'm considering the Trutrack ADI. http://www.trutrakflightsystems.com/ttfsinstruments.html >Does anyone out there have real time behind this instrument that is pro or con? The thing I like most about it is that it's simple without a lot of other information that I don't need. What I need to ensure is that it will do the job I'm looking for, which is to get me out of trouble should that time ever arise. > > > > ________________________________ Message 22 ____________________________________ Time: 01:26:39 PM PST US From: AI Nut Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: Solid State Gyros --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: AI Nut I'd like to incorporate on in my bird, too, but I don't want a 'complete' unit like the Dynon's etc. Guess I'm looking for a chip, or MEMS unit, or what? Preferably, it will have a 0-5vdc output, or a USB output. Thanks. Earl_Schroeder wrote: >--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Earl_Schroeder > >My Lancair has one that has an external GPS [mouse type] to provide >heading. That and the Alt hold [AlTrak] are the two most liked items in >the aircraft. If you have any specific questions, let me know. Earl > >Fox5flyer wrote: > > > >>Currently I'm considering the Trutrack ADI. http://www.trutrakflightsystems.com/ttfsinstruments.html >>Does anyone out there have real time behind this instrument that is pro or con? The thing I like most about it is that it's simple without a lot of other information that I don't need. What I need to ensure is that it will do the job I'm looking for, which is to get me out of trouble should that time ever arise. >> >> >> >> >> ________________________________ Message 23 ____________________________________ Time: 01:53:07 PM PST US From: "Mark Cochran" Subject: RE: AeroElectric-List: Solid State Gyros --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Mark Cochran" Here's one very simple alternative: http://www.pcflightsystems.com/ Mark Cochran GAI Sportsman at 55% -----Original Message----- From: owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of AI Nut Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: Solid State Gyros --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: AI Nut I'd like to incorporate on in my bird, too, but I don't want a 'complete' unit like the Dynon's etc. Guess I'm looking for a chip, or MEMS unit, or what? Preferably, it will have a 0-5vdc output, or a USB output. Thanks. Earl_Schroeder wrote: >--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Earl_Schroeder > >My Lancair has one that has an external GPS [mouse type] to provide >heading. That and the Alt hold [AlTrak] are the two most liked items in >the aircraft. If you have any specific questions, let me know. Earl > >Fox5flyer wrote: > > > >>Currently I'm considering the Trutrack ADI. http://www.trutrakflightsystems.com/ttfsinstruments.html >>Does anyone out there have real time behind this instrument that is pro or con? The thing I like most about it is that it's simple without a lot of other information that I don't need. What I need to ensure is that it will do the job I'm looking for, which is to get me out of trouble should that time ever arise. >> >> >> >> >> ________________________________ Message 24 ____________________________________ Time: 05:18:28 PM PST US From: "Roger Evenson" Subject: AeroElectric-List: Noise Clarification --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Roger Evenson" Bob: Reviewing cha. 16 on noise, I'm trying to understand the following apparent contradiction: One recommendation is to avoid the 'bad hair' look, and instead run wires bundled close together as long as possible, with short breakouts. Yet, two of the four listed noise propagation modes (magnetic and electrostatic) result from wires in close parallel proximity. Care to comment? Roger. ________________________________ Message 25 ____________________________________ Time: 05:59:52 PM PST US From: Fiveonepw@aol.com Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: Solid State Gyros --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Fiveonepw@aol.com Did you look at stuff by PCFlightSystems? Maybe they have something you can use. I use their PDA based EFIS/GPS Nav stuff as my main PFD/NAV (VFR) and it works quite nicely... http://pcflightsystems.com/ Mark Phillips, RV-6A N51PW Columbia TN ________________________________ Message 26 ____________________________________ Time: 09:59:15 PM PST US From: "bob noffs" Subject: AeroElectric-List: switch washers --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "bob noffs" hi all, the solution i liked best was strip of alum on the panel backside but my design wont allow it. my plan is to try to drill part way thru. maybe shape the washertabs like the end of a drill bit or after starting a holedeepen the hole with a 1/8'' router bit.thanks for the ideas bob noffs