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Sat 10/15/05


Total Messages Posted: 6



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     1. 05:05 AM - Re: Controlling IR ND Alternators (Ken)
     2. 05:48 AM - Re: Controlling IR ND Alternators (BobsV35B@aol.com)
     3. 03:44 PM - Re: Alternator recall (Charlie Kuss)
     4. 05:15 PM - Re: Icom A200 issues (Rodney Dunham)
     5. 06:58 PM - First Operational GQM Target Flight ()
     6. 07:29 PM - Re: Re: Icom A200 issues (Jim Baker)
 
 
 


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    Time: 05:05:00 AM PST US
    From: Ken <klehman@albedo.net>
    Subject: Re: Controlling IR ND Alternators
    --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Ken <klehman@albedo.net> Hi Bob Once again this darn computer didn't type what I meant ;) I was not suggesting speeding up the alternator but rather the opposite. I was thinking that if there was a problem with belt slippage etc, that I might try a larger pulley on the alternator to slow it down. That would normally reduce belt load and slippage. Also reduced alternator output might be preferable to no output or having to turn off the alternator for high loads such as that quote implied. Ken BobsV35B@aol.com wrote: >--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: BobsV35B@aol.com > > >In a message dated 10/14/2005 5:21:35 P.M. Central Standard Time, >klehman@albedo.net writes: > >Hi Bob >That is certainly a plausible explanation but I don't understand why one >would tolerate such a situation. If that is really the issue I'd want to >upgrade the belt or mount, fit a larger pulley, or whatever it took to >eliminate the concern... >Ken > > >Good Evening Ken, > >No argument here, but I could perceive a situation where the airplane is >taxiing or otherwise in a situation where a higher power is not reasonable. At >that time, it may be reasonable to avoid trying to carry a high amperage >load. It could be that if the alternator was geared so as to be at a high enough >speed to put out the maximum power when at idle it would be spinning way too > fast at cruise. Most airplanes that I flew fifty years ago had electrical >systems where we had to use electrical power judiciously during almost all >ground operations. > >Happy Skies, > >Old Bob >AKA >Bob Siegfried >Ancient Aviator >Stearman N3977A >Brookeridge Air Park LL22 >Downers Grove, IL 60516 >630 985-8503 > > >


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    Time: 05:48:36 AM PST US
    From: BobsV35B@aol.com
    Subject: Re: Controlling IR ND Alternators
    --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: BobsV35B@aol.com In a message dated 10/15/2005 7:06:27 A.M. Central Standard Time, klehman@albedo.net writes: Hi Bob Once again this darn computer didn't type what I meant ;) I was not suggesting speeding up the alternator but rather the opposite. I was thinking that if there was a problem with belt slippage etc, that I might try a larger pulley on the alternator to slow it down. That would normally reduce belt load and slippage. Also reduced alternator output might be preferable to no output or having to turn off the alternator for high loads such as that quote implied. Ken These computers are pesky devils at that! Do Not Archive Happy Skies, Old Bob AKA Bob Siegfried Ancient Aviator Stearman N3977A Brookeridge Air Park LL22 Downers Grove, IL 60516 630 985-8503


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    Time: 03:44:00 PM PST US
    From: Charlie Kuss <chaztuna@adelphia.net>
    Subject: Re: Alternator recall
    --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Charlie Kuss <chaztuna@adelphia.net> >snipped >If you are talking about Nissan I think 99% of their alternators are >Hitachi or brands other than ND. > > >If you are referring to the Nissan Murano recall, I can't tell you what >model alternator it is, likely a 110amp Hitachi. Regardless the recall is >benign, a wire comes off and the battery stops being charged according to >the info I quickly looked up. The symptom besides the battery gets no >charge is the ALT idiot light illuminates. > > >As far as fire anyone with a computer can look this stuff up with a little >effort. The web site is NSTSA, or just google combos of words like: >alternator, recall, fires, electrical, Nissan, nippondenso, hitachi, >mitsubishi, delco, prestolite, motorolla. You will not find any fire >produced by a denso alternator. Many fires are from external wiring near >the alternator or from other components on the engine near the wiring. >Lesson is keep your alternator and wiring shielded and protected very well. snipped George, I just got around to reading all the posts which have piled up from the AeroElectric List. I noted your comment above. Since I have AllData and Mitchell On Demand (automotive tech info software) on my computers, I looked it up. You are correct. The Murano uses a Hitachi model LR1110-723 110 amp alternator on the 2003 model year products. Interestingly, the 2004 models use a Hitachi model LR1110-723B unit. I will second George's opinion to avoid Hitachi alternators. This is based on my professional experience with these units. Charlie Kuss


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    Time: 05:15:14 PM PST US
    From: "Rodney Dunham" <rdunhamtn@hotmail.com>
    Subject: Re: Icom A200 issues
    --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Rodney Dunham" <rdunhamtn@hotmail.com> Charlie, Well, you probably wouldn't have succumbed to the "gotchas" like I did. I'm new at this. But here are my "tips". 1) Be sure to install the tray such that the PC board and coax can seat completely when the radio is inserted and tightened up. 2) Be sure to install the little clip on the back of the tray that holds the coax about 2 to 3 inches from the connector so it is stabilized. Mine broke here and caused problems. 3) Be sure to construct good "subpanels" so you can take the whole thing over to the bench to work on it. 4) While on the bench with intercom and radio positioned for maximum exposure, make wiring harnesses with multi-wire shielded cables and Molex (or similar) connectors for easy in and out. 5) Crimp and solder! Those intercom wires are small. I crimped the insulation in both grips on the barrel connectors then soldered the stripped wire inside the barrel. It's quite easy now that I have the hang of it. Maybe Bob can teach me how to make a comic book :o) 6) Speaking of comic books, www.aeroelectric.com/articles/matenlok/matenlok.html is a must read for the beginner. That's this beginners 2 cents worth. Rodney in Tennessee PS A good education is no excuse for bad manners.


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    Time: 06:58:52 PM PST US
    From: <bakerocb@cox.net>
    Subject: First Operational GQM Target Flight
    --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: <bakerocb@cox.net> AeroElectric-List message previously posted by: "Robert L. Nuckolls, III" <nuckollsr@cox.net> <<...skip.....The first non-experimental GQM-163 target was launched recently.....skip......Here's a picture of the launch. http://www.aeroelectric.com/Pictures/Misc/1st_Operational_GQM.jpg ........skip......Bob . . .>> 10/15/2005 Hello Bob Nuckolls, Any idea where that launch took place? From the nearby plant life (called "ice plant") and the ocean it looks very much like a beach launch from NAS Point Mugu / Pacific Missile Range. Many years ago I had occasion to chase launches from those beach sites while flying tactical jets. I must admit that the objects that I was chasing were a bit slower than a GQM, but it was still pretty sporting to be in position (both spatially and velocity wise) to join up on a vertically launched itty-bitty cruise missile before it disappeared out of sight and then fly formation on it a few feet off the surface. Next step up in difficulty was to join up and track a cruise missile being launched from a submerged submarine. The lack of reference land marks out in the ocean made prelaunch positioning for chase and join up a real challenge. We also chased the cruise missiles over US continental land as they navigated a route using an onboard terrain comparison database -- this was pre GPS days. The recovery of a crashed cruise missile was always a very quick and quiet affair. OC


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    Time: 07:29:13 PM PST US
    From: "Jim Baker" <jlbaker@telepath.com>
    Subject: Re: Icom A200 issues
    --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Jim Baker" <jlbaker@telepath.com> Speaking of > comic books, www.aeroelectric.com/articles/matenlok/matenlok.html is a > must read for the beginner. Once you've looked that over, take a look at a DB-9/15/25/etc connector, pin and socket crimp style (type used in serial connectors). Had a recent project that involved a broken Centronics 24 position male connector for the back of a Century III autopilot console. The harness to the console was already very short so had to make up a pigtail of a DB-25 female to Centronics 24 male, with a DB-25 male on the very short harness up under the panel (Bellanca Viking). Five of the wires were 20awg and so broke out to seperate 6 position Molex. No other way to do this without wholesale wiring carnage. Those 19 itty-bitty Centronics pins were each hand crimped to 24awg wire with nothing more than a set of electronics dykes and a pair of small, angled needle nose. Quick wick of solder, too. I envy anyone who has the luxury of .092 pins for the whole project..... Jim Baker 580.788.2779 '71 SV, 492TC Elmore City, OK




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