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1. 12:13 AM - Comments... (Matt Dralle)
2. 04:26 AM - 12 Volt Ipod....Now Need Volume Help (Tinne maha)
3. 04:26 AM - Wig-wag wiring (Gary Casey)
4. 05:23 AM - Re: 12 Volt Ipod....Now Need Volume Help (Mickey Coggins)
5. 06:17 AM - Re: Wig-wag wiring (Ken)
6. 06:17 AM - (bob noffs)
7. 06:46 AM - Re: Wig-wag wiring (923te)
8. 07:09 AM - Re: (Ken)
9. 07:12 AM - Re: (Dave Morris \)
10. 02:29 PM - Re: Success . . . (dww0708@aol.com)
11. 04:59 PM - eis (bob noffs)
12. 05:38 PM - Re: eis (Dan Billingsley)
13. 06:56 PM - Re: eis (Fiveonepw@aol.com)
14. 07:00 PM - Re: eis (James H Nelson)
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| Subject: | 12 Volt Ipod....Now Need Volume Help |
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Tinne maha" <tinnemaha@hotmail.com>
Not sure if Y'all remember the posts a week or two ago regarding input
voltage for an Ipod.....if not, please read 'BACKGROUND INFO' below.
After scouring several sources (including this list) there was no clear,
'Yes, your ipod will definitely work on 12 volts' answer, but lots of 'I
don't see why it wouldn't work' or 'It will probably work fine' type of
answers. Nobody said it would NOT work. So yesterday I took a deep breath
& plugged in..........was both pleased & relieved to see the Ipod charging
fine while playing in my headphones.
Now I have another small issue: There is no volume contol. (Not a big
surprise....The salesperson told me I would lose use of the Ipod volume
contol if I used the plug on the bottom....I just had to see for myself) I
believe adding a volume control behind my panel is not too difficult, but I
did not find anything in the archives. Can someone please enlighten me?
I'm using a 2.5 mm input jack that feeds into my intercom. The intercom's
volume control does not effect the Ipod volume.
Any help will be appreciated.
Thanks,
Grant
BACKGROUND INFO: I'm installing an Ipod mini as a background music source to
my intercom. The Ipod (well, the mini at least) says that it runs on 5-30
Volts DC @ 1.0 amps max, but the cigarette lighter adapter (for some still
unknown reason) steps voltage down from buss voltage to 5 Volts. I want to
hardwire the charger to my main buss.
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--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Gary Casey <glcasey@adelphia.net>
I have decided to use the B and C wig-wag system in my plane with a
single pole 3-way switch (off-wigwag-on). The only way I can think
of to wire it requires 2 SPDT relays (I plan to use automotive-type
"DIN" relays everywhere for commonality) to switch the lights from
the wig wag position to the both on position. Is there a better,
simpler way? I know you could use a double-pole 3-way switch, but my
panel is already done and lighted rocker switches are what fit.
Lancair sells a lighted switch that is labeled correctly, so that's
what I'll use.
Gary Casey
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| Subject: | Re: 12 Volt Ipod....Now Need Volume Help |
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Mickey Coggins <mick-matronics@rv8.ch>
> Now I have another small issue: There is no volume contol. (Not a big
> surprise....The salesperson told me I would lose use of the Ipod volume
> contol if I used the plug on the bottom....I just had to see for myself) I
> believe adding a volume control behind my panel is not too difficult, but I
> did not find anything in the archives. Can someone please enlighten me?
I don't understand this. I have an external power adapter
for my ipod mini, and I can still use the volume on the
front. The power adapter is a 3rd party AC adapter, with
a plug that goes into the bottom of the ipod.
--
Mickey Coggins
http://www.rv8.ch/
#82007 finishing
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| Subject: | Re: Wig-wag wiring |
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Ken <klehman@albedo.net>
Hi Gary
If you have room for an extra switch, another possibility might be to
use one switch for lights on and off and a second separate switch to
choose wig wag or no wig wag. I think at least one of my switches is
double pole but they are both only 2-way. I find 3-way switches to be
awkward.
Ken
Gary Casey wrote:
>--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Gary Casey <glcasey@adelphia.net>
>
>I have decided to use the B and C wig-wag system in my plane with a
>single pole 3-way switch (off-wigwag-on). The only way I can think
>of to wire it requires 2 SPDT relays (I plan to use automotive-type
>"DIN" relays everywhere for commonality) to switch the lights from
>the wig wag position to the both on position. Is there a better,
>simpler way? I know you could use a double-pole 3-way switch, but my
>panel is already done and lighted rocker switches are what fit.
>Lancair sells a lighted switch that is labeled correctly, so that's
>what I'll use.
>
>Gary Casey
>
>
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--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "bob noffs" <icubob@newnorth.net>
hi all,
sorry to ask this brainlessly easy question but i know zip about electronics.
i have a jab 3300. manual states 15 amps continuous for the alternator. i will
be installing a crowbar for overvoltage protection. what size wire with what
size breaker do i use from the alternator? i am ordering some parts today. i
thought i would just flip open aeroelection and pick a wire size based on amp
but i dont find a chart. went to ''firewall forward'' and his chart says 30 amp
for breaker, 15 amp for fuse. so what started simple has raised more questions
than i can answer. thanks
bob noffs
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| Subject: | Re: Wig-wag wiring |
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "923te" <923te@cox.net>
Gary would this work?
http://www.newark.com/product-details/text/catalog/4869.html
or this:
http://www.newark.com/product-details/text/catalog/4870.html
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gary Casey" <glcasey@adelphia.net>
Subject: AeroElectric-List: Wig-wag wiring
> --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Gary Casey <glcasey@adelphia.net>
>
> I have decided to use the B and C wig-wag system in my plane with a
> single pole 3-way switch (off-wigwag-on). The only way I can think
> of to wire it requires 2 SPDT relays (I plan to use automotive-type
> "DIN" relays everywhere for commonality) to switch the lights from
> the wig wag position to the both on position. Is there a better,
> simpler way? I know you could use a double-pole 3-way switch, but my
> panel is already done and lighted rocker switches are what fit.
> Lancair sells a lighted switch that is labeled correctly, so that's
> what I'll use.
>
> Gary Casey
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: ectric-List: |
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Ken <klehman@albedo.net>
I am not familiar with Jabiru's but if I was ordering new materials for
this I'd use awg12 wire and a 20 amp breaker.
15 amps might be OK but a 20 amp breaker should not nuisance trip. I
wouldn't trust a 15 amp fuse as they tend to be quick to trip and might
well trip when you apply power after an engine start. Your 15 amp
alternator rating is a nominal rating and it might well put out a little
more in some conditions. 12 awg wire fits yellow PIDG connectors so it
is easy to install and will handle 15 or so amps without excessive
heating or voltage drop for reasonable lengths and wire bundle sizes.
Ken
bob noffs wrote:
>--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "bob noffs" <icubob@newnorth.net>
>
>hi all,
> sorry to ask this brainlessly easy question but i know zip about electronics.
i have a jab 3300. manual states 15 amps continuous for the alternator. i will
be installing a crowbar for overvoltage protection. what size wire with what
size breaker do i use from the alternator? i am ordering some parts today. i
thought i would just flip open aeroelection and pick a wire size based on amp
but i dont find a chart. went to ''firewall forward'' and his chart says 30 amp
for breaker, 15 amp for fuse. so what started simple has raised more questions
than i can answer. thanks
>
> bob noffs
>
>
>
>
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--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Dave Morris \"BigD\"" <BigD@DaveMorris.com>
Here's what you are looking for:
www.aeroelectric.com/articles/wiresize.pdf
Dave Morris
At 08:16 AM 11/14/2005, you wrote:
>--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "bob noffs" <icubob@newnorth.net>
>
>hi all,
> sorry to ask this brainlessly easy question but i know zip about
> electronics. i have a jab 3300. manual states 15 amps continuous for the
> alternator. i will be installing a crowbar for overvoltage protection.
> what size wire with what size breaker do i use from the alternator? i am
> ordering some parts today. i thought i would just flip open aeroelection
> and pick a wire size based on amp but i dont find a chart. went to
> ''firewall forward'' and his chart says 30 amp for breaker, 15 amp for
> fuse. so what started simple has raised more questions than i can answer.
> thanks
>
> bob noffs
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Success . . . |
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: dww0708@aol.com
Bet those guys don t like the Concord RG series battery.
-----Original Message-----
From: Robert L. Nuckolls, III <nuckollsr@cox.net>
Subject: AeroElectric-List: Success . . .
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Robert L. Nuckolls, III"
<nuckollsr@cox.net>
Just blew in from Little Rock on the RAC Shuttle (B-1900 . . .
ugh!). We were able to identify and implement a kluged-fix
on a generator control unit that was designed in the late
70's and grand-fathered onto far too many modern airplanes.
Dee and I are driving back down Sunday night with hardware
and tools to develop, prototype and write work instructions
for a production fix. Need to figure out how to mount 16
capacitors inside a connector back shell and still bring
the 20 some wires out. I'm a whole lot more optimistic
about the second trip than I was about the first.
We'll be around Saturday and most of Sunday and then gone
again for a couple of days. This was an interesting trip
for a variety of reasons. The Hawker is a complicated
airplane, a very expensive airplane and the owners want and
are willing to pay for expensive toys both in the cockpit
and passenger cabin. No two airplanes are exactly alike
and the system integration problems are challenging . . .
especially for RFI/EMC issues.
Exciting stuff but I'm glad I don't work down there full
time!
Bob . . .
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--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "bob noffs" <icubob@newnorth.net>
hi all, anyone have any experience with either the grand rapids e.i.s. or the stratomaster
information system/ i had pretty much decided on the g.r. eis but
i read a lot about the relatively new stratomaster. i know g.r. has an excellent
reliability record and the company stands behind their product. any input
on either unit would be appeeciated.
bob noffs
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--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Dan Billingsley <dan@azshowersolutions.com>
Hi Bob,
I did a lot of research on both the EIS and the Startomaster. My findings led to
the EIS. All guys that fly behind it term it as bullet-proof and does a very
good job. It is not as graphical as the Stratomaster...but at least you can see
it. Every pilot that I found with the Stratomaster complained that it simply
isn't readable in sunlight. Two seperate guys said that in direct sun it actually
goes blank. Hope that helps.
Dan
Kitfox Lite Squared / 912s
bob noffs <icubob@newnorth.net> wrote:
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "bob noffs"
hi all, anyone have any experience with either the grand rapids e.i.s. or the stratomaster
information system/ i had pretty much decided on the g.r. eis but
i read a lot about the relatively new stratomaster. i know g.r. has an excellent
reliability record and the company stands behind their product. any input on
either unit would be appeeciated.
bob noffs
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--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Fiveonepw@aol.com
>>>>>>>>>>
Hi Bob-
I'm sure you'll get lots of responses to this, but I love mine, and among the
features you already mentioned, I haven't seen anything yet that offers more
bang for the buck in such a compact package- kinda low-tech looking, but the
info you need is right there, right now.
Mark -6A 250 hours, do not archive
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--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: James H Nelson <rv9jim@juno.com>
Hi Bob,
Say, would it be to much to ask you to use capital letters where
necessary? Your messages are difficult to read when those cap's are
missing. I have used the EIS system for two years and it works great.
So much so that I've gone for his EFIS system on my new build. Great
company and they stand behind their product.
Jim Nelson
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