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1. 02:59 AM - Switch Configuration (SMITHBKN@aol.com)
2. 03:15 AM - Re: Switch Configuration (Bruce Gray)
3. 04:44 AM - Re: Switch Configuration (Sam Chambers)
4. 04:46 AM - Re: Voltage regulator (LarryRobertHelming)
5. 04:48 AM - Remote ELT Battery Change Timing (Glen Matejcek)
6. 06:06 AM - Re: Switch Configuration (Fiveonepw@aol.com)
7. 06:20 AM - Re: ELT Remote Gotcha (Mike)
8. 06:46 AM - Re: ELT Remote Gotcha (Mark R. Supinski)
9. 08:29 AM - Linux CAD Options (was: Re: Turbocad) (Dwight Frye)
10. 11:11 AM - Re: GRT/Lightspeed/Mags (Robert L. Nuckolls, III)
11. 11:26 AM - Re: "Flicker Filter" for low fuel warning float switches? (Robert L. Nuckolls, III)
12. 01:30 PM - EGT/CHT thermocouple cable (John Tvedte)
13. 01:46 PM - Re: EGT/CHT thermocouple cable (Robert L. Nuckolls, III)
14. 02:35 PM - 4 Conductor shielded cable (Paul McAllister)
15. 02:41 PM - Re: EGT/CHT thermocouple cable (rd2@evenlink.com)
16. 02:54 PM - Re: 4 Conductor shielded cable (Rogers, Bob J.)
17. 02:59 PM - Re: 4 Conductor shielded cable (D Wysong)
18. 03:05 PM - Re: 4 Conductor shielded cable (gert)
19. 03:23 PM - Re: 4 Conductor shielded cable (Ralph E. Capen)
20. 03:35 PM - Re: EGT/CHT thermocouple cable (Alan K. Adamson)
21. 03:36 PM - Re: EGT/CHT thermocouple cable (William)
22. 03:49 PM - Pitot Heat Indicator Color? (Scott)
23. 04:42 PM - Re: 4 Conductor shielded cable (John Schroeder)
24. 05:35 PM - Re: Pitot Heat Indicator Color? (Eric M. Jones)
25. 05:45 PM - Peak current handling of S604 gold "DB" style contacts (James Foerster)
26. 07:22 PM - Re: MD200-306 VOR/ILS Indicator (DEAN PSIROPOULOS)
27. 09:53 PM - Avionics and essential Buss? ()
28. 10:04 PM - Rotax 914, run fuel pump with no battery? ()
29. 11:00 PM - Alternator output wire size (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Mich=E8le_Delsol?=)
30. 11:13 PM - Re: "Flicker Filter" for low fuel warning float switches? (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Mich=E8le_Delsol?=)
31. 11:25 PM - 3 conductor AWG18 cable (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Mich=E8le_Delsol?=)
32. 11:41 PM - Re: 3 conductor AWG18 cable (Bruce Gray)
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| Subject: | Switch Configuration |
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: SMITHBKN@aol.com
Group,
I have an IO-360 with Slick Mags. I would like to know if I can use three
toggle switches to control start/operation.
1. Left Mag (Off-On)
2. Right Mag (Off-On)
3. Starter (Off-Momentary On) - This one will have a switch guard on it too.
Anything wrong with this setup?
Jeff
RV-7A
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| Subject: | Switch Configuration |
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Bruce Gray" <Bruce@glasair.org>
No, it's ok. I use a slight modification of that setup. I use double pole
switches for my mags such that the starter switch will only function if the
left mag is on and the right mag is off. This assumes that your impulse
coupler is on your left mag.
Bruce
www.glasair.org
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[mailto:owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
SMITHBKN@aol.com
Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2006 5:58 AM
Subject: AeroElectric-List: Switch Configuration
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: SMITHBKN@aol.com
Group,
I have an IO-360 with Slick Mags. I would like to know if I can use three
toggle switches to control start/operation.
1. Left Mag (Off-On)
2. Right Mag (Off-On)
3. Starter (Off-Momentary On) - This one will have a switch guard on it
too.
Anything wrong with this setup?
Jeff
RV-7A
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| Subject: | Re: Switch Configuration |
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Sam Chambers" <schamber@glasgow-ky.com>
Jeff,
That is the set-up I used in my Long-EZ-except I have one electronic
ignition and one mag. I really like the set-up, but took the switch guard
off as they looked too out-of-scale for the panel. I used Eaton switches
MS35058-22/8801K22 for the mag/EI and MS35058-30/881K17 for the start
switch. The panel layout has them in a horizontal row with, from the left,
the Lmag, EI, start, alt, bat. These are located separate from the rest of
the switches. I used all 88 series switches to keep the look uniform. If
you would like a pic, let me know.
Thanks,
Sam Chambers
Glasgow,KY
Long-EZ N775AM
Co-Host, Rough River Fly-In
----- Original Message -----
From: <SMITHBKN@aol.com>
Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2006 4:57 AM
Subject: AeroElectric-List: Switch Configuration
> --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: SMITHBKN@aol.com
>
> Group,
>
> I have an IO-360 with Slick Mags. I would like to know if I can use
> three
> toggle switches to control start/operation.
>
> 1. Left Mag (Off-On)
> 2. Right Mag (Off-On)
> 3. Starter (Off-Momentary On) - This one will have a switch guard on it
> too.
>
> Anything wrong with this setup?
>
> Jeff
> RV-7A
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Voltage regulator |
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "LarryRobertHelming" <lhelming@sigecom.net>
You want to check the archives. a.. Archive Search Engine:
http://www.matronics.com/search
Change the list name to aeroelectric and enter external voltage regulator,
or external VR, or whatever into the search. There is tons of info there.
Now you know how to use the archives. Welcome to the system.
Indiana Larry
> --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "David Shani"
> <David.Shani@sanmina-sci.com>
>
> Hello=20all,
>
>
> I=20am=20looking=20for=20information=20on=20inexpensive=20external=20voltage=20regulator
> (automotive?)=20that=20will=20work=20well=20in=20our=20ships.
>
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> =20Thanks,
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> David
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| Subject: | Remote ELT Battery Change Timing |
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Glen Matejcek" <aerobubba@earthlink.net>
Hi Guys-
RE:
>In the last two weeks, every builder I talked to (including an inspector)
was not
>aware that most ELT remotes require a battery to operate.
>No big deal, you think? Well, it is if you've mounted the ELT remote
>on your panel and have no way to access the battery.
>So, be forewarned... ensure you can easily remove the ELT remote to
>insert/change the battery. I can access mine by removing my GPS, but a
>friend of mine building a SeaStar would have had a lot of trouble if I
>hadn't pointed it out.
>Vern Little
My remote head is in an extremely convenient spot for utility / ergonomics,
and a miserable / impossible spot for maintenance. I ended up using
nutserts in the panel. I was afraid that the nutserts would make for an
unsightly installation since their slightly proud face will leave a tiny
gap between the control head flange and the panel, but with them both being
black the only way you can notice is if you back light the installation.
The purists among us might be motivated to install a shim / gasket under
the flange...
Glen Matejcek
aerobubba@earthlink.net
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| Subject: | Re: Switch Configuration |
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Fiveonepw@aol.com
In a message dated 1/24/06 5:01:14 AM Central Standard Time, SMITHBKN@aol.com
writes:
> Anything wrong with this setup?
>>>
Nope- basically same as outlined on Bob's Z figures- I used one of the start
buttons with circular guard around it (from B&C) on far left side of panel.
This is on a -6A and the button is just under the canopy deck- hard to hit
unless you really want to...
http://websites.expercraft.com/n51pw/index.php?q=log_entry&log_id=5130
shows the arrangement.
Mark do not archive
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| Subject: | ELT Remote Gotcha |
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Mike" <mlas@cox.net>
Ameri-King requires nether.....
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bill
Denton
Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2006 1:01 PM
Subject: RE: AeroElectric-List: ELT Remote Gotcha
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Bill Denton"
<bdenton@bdenton.com>
JFTR...
Many Artex remote switch units DO NOT require a battery, but are instead
hardwired to ship's power.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of
rv-9a-online
Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2015 12:49 PM
Subject: AeroElectric-List: ELT Remote Gotcha
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: rv-9a-online
<rv-9a-online@telus.net>
In the last two weeks, every builder I talked to (including an
inspector) was not aware that most ELT remotes require a battery to
operate.
No big deal, you think? Well, it is if you've mounted the ELT remote on
your panel and have no way to access the battery.
So, be forewarned... ensure you can easily remove the ELT remote to
insert/change the battery. I can access mine by removing my GPS, but a
friend of mine building a SeaStar would have had a lot of trouble if I
hadn't pointed it out.
Vern Little
--
1/16/2006
--
1/16/2006
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| Subject: | Re: ELT Remote Gotcha |
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Mark R. Supinski" <mark.supinski@gmail.com>
Sorry, Mike -- but if you are referring to the Ameri-King AK-450 you are in
for a rude surprise. Here is a quote from their published feature list:
- Mini Remote Control Panel with independent Battery built-in,
therefore Interface with Aircraft Electrical Power is not required.
Having just installed a 450 last weekend, I can assure you that the AK-450
does in fact have a battery in the remote unit.
Mark Supinski
On 1/24/06, Mike <mlas@cox.net> wrote:
>
> --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Mike" <mlas@cox.net>
>
> Ameri-King requires nether.....
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bill
> Denton
> Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2006 1:01 PM
> To: aeroelectric-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RE: AeroElectric-List: ELT Remote Gotcha
>
> --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Bill Denton"
> <bdenton@bdenton.com>
>
> JFTR...
>
> Many Artex remote switch units DO NOT require a battery, but are instead
> hardwired to ship's power.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of
> rv-9a-online
> Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2015 12:49 PM
> To: aeroelectric-list@matronics.com
> Subject: AeroElectric-List: ELT Remote Gotcha
>
>
> --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: rv-9a-online
> <rv-9a-online@telus.net>
>
> In the last two weeks, every builder I talked to (including an
> inspector) was not aware that most ELT remotes require a battery to
> operate.
>
> No big deal, you think? Well, it is if you've mounted the ELT remote on
> your panel and have no way to access the battery.
>
> So, be forewarned... ensure you can easily remove the ELT remote to
> insert/change the battery. I can access mine by removing my GPS, but a
> friend of mine building a SeaStar would have had a lot of trouble if I
> hadn't pointed it out.
>
> Vern Little
>
>
> --
> 1/16/2006
>
>
> --
> 1/16/2006
>
>
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--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Dwight Frye <dwight@openweave.org>
Dan,
I've used Qcad and found a program called 'dwg2dxf' that will convert
the DWG to DXF. Works great. You can find it at :
https://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=30996
There are multiple items you can download there, but the second entry
is entitled "DWG to DXF" and has a "dwg2dxf-2.1.tar.gz" that you can
pull down. Get it, unbundle it, build it, and start converting.
-- Dwight
On Sat Jan 21 22:04:42 2006, Dan O'Brien wrote :
>Has anyone found a CAD program that works with Linux? I still have a
>Windows boot on which I can use Intellicad quite effectively, but I dual
>boot Linux and would like a Linux CAD program capable of reading dwg files.
>There is one that does dxf files (it's called QCad), but I don't know of a
>reasonably priced Linux variant that handles dwg files. Anyone know of one?
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| Subject: | Re: GRT/Lightspeed/Mags |
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Robert L. Nuckolls, III" <nuckollsr@cox.net>
At 06:50 PM 1/24/2006 +1100, you wrote:
>--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Allan Aaron" <aaaron@tvp.com.au>
>
>Hi all
>I have a GRT EIS 4000 and one lightspeed plasma III in my MustangII. I
>was going to take the tach signal from the lightspeed but did some web
>surfing and have come to the conclusion that it would be better to take
>the signal from the P-lead since that way, it would be obvious if the
>mag dies (no rpm signal) whereas if the lightspeed dies it will be
>obvious because of the rpm drop. Is this the right approach? I don't
>want to have to wire another switch in the panel.
It doesn't make much difference. RPM displays have almost
zero significance in effecting a no-sweat termination of
flight. Do whatever is easiest and lowest risk for noise
propagation. I'd tie it to the electronic tach output from
the electronic ignition.
>Second, related question ... I'm using single shielded wire for the
>p-lead. Core goes to the contact inside the ferrule (or whatever its
>called). I've attached a pigtail to the shield and bolted that to one of
>the 4 m/c screws that attached the HT leads. Is this the right
>approach?
Yes.
Bob . . .
< What is so wonderful about scientific truth...is that >
< the authority which determines whether there can be >
< debate or not does not reside in some fraternity of >
< scientists; nor is it divine. The authority rests >
< with experiment. >
< --Lawrence M. Krauss >
http://www.aeroelectric.com
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| Subject: | Re: ectric-List:"Flicker Filter" for low fuel warning float switches? |
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Robert L. Nuckolls, III" <nuckollsr@cox.net>
float switches?
At 07:06 PM 1/23/2006 -0600, you wrote:
>--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Jerry Fisher
><jeremyfisher@verizon.net> switches?
>
>Bob,
>
>You asked about the requirement for a flicker free fuel low warning light.
>
>Yes, I for one have been looking for just such a circuit. I am
>installing an automatic transfer system from the wing tanks to the
>header tank on a Lancair 360, and would like to include a warning light
>that means what it says. Where can we find this circuit or circuit
>diagram? Thanks
I don't have a circuit to publish . . . there have been numerous
approaches to delayed annunciation of a uncertain output from
many level sensing switches at the operation level.
While working another task . . .
http://www.aeroelectric.com/Catalog/AEC/9011/9011-700-1.pdf
. . . it just came to mind that without changing any
of the hardware, this product could be re-programmed
to do the flicker-filtering task but with more agility
than commercial off the shelf timer options.
We haven't decided to tackle that task yet. We're
mulling over a whole new approach to low liquid
level sensing combined with perhaps some programmable
fuel management options. I was just putting a dipstick
into the marketplace on the rudimentary flicker-filter
as a stand-alone item.
Bob . . .
< What is so wonderful about scientific truth...is that >
< the authority which determines whether there can be >
< debate or not does not reside in some fraternity of >
< scientists; nor is it divine. The authority rests >
< with experiment. >
< --Lawrence M. Krauss >
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| Subject: | EGT/CHT thermocouple cable |
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "John Tvedte" <JohnT@comp-sol.com>
Does anyone know of a source for twisted pair stranded non sheathed J &
K thermocouple cable (extension grade is fine)- with tefzel insulation?
Also what is being used to provide connect/disconnect capability?
Thanks,
John
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| Subject: | Re: EGT/CHT thermocouple cable |
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Robert L. Nuckolls, III" <nuckollsr@cox.net>
At 03:29 PM 1/24/2006 -0600, you wrote:
>--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "John Tvedte" <JohnT@comp-sol.com>
>
>Does anyone know of a source for twisted pair stranded non sheathed J &
>K thermocouple cable (extension grade is fine)- with tefzel insulation?
>Also what is being used to provide connect/disconnect capability?
http://www.omega.com/pptst/EXGG_JX_WIRE.html
http://www.omega.com/pptst/EXGG_KX_WIRE.html
http://www.omega.com/pptst/GMP.html
Bob . . .
< What is so wonderful about scientific truth...is that >
< the authority which determines whether there can be >
< debate or not does not reside in some fraternity of >
< scientists; nor is it divine. The authority rests >
< with experiment. >
< --Lawrence M. Krauss >
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| Subject: | 4 Conductor shielded cable |
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Paul McAllister" <paul.mcallister@qia.net>
Hi all,
I am looking for a source of 4 conductor shielded cable. The inner
conductors need to be around 22g. I have trolled through B&C's website but
I couldn't see anything.
Thanks, Paul
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| Subject: | Re: EGT/CHT thermocouple cable |
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: rd2@evenlink.com
I didn't ask the question, but was about to.
Thanks, Bob!
Rumen
do not archive
_____________________Original message __________________________
(received from Robert L. Nuckolls, III; Date: 03:45 PM
1/24/2006 -0600)
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Robert L. Nuckolls, III"
<nuckollsr@cox.net>
At 03:29 PM 1/24/2006 -0600, you wrote:
>--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "John Tvedte" <JohnT@comp-sol.com>
>
>Does anyone know of a source for twisted pair stranded non sheathed J &
>K thermocouple cable (extension grade is fine)- with tefzel insulation?
>Also what is being used to provide connect/disconnect capability?
http://www.omega.com/pptst/EXGG_JX_WIRE.html
http://www.omega.com/pptst/EXGG_KX_WIRE.html
http://www.omega.com/pptst/GMP.html
Bob . . .
< What is so wonderful about scientific truth...is that >
< the authority which determines whether there can be >
< debate or not does not reside in some fraternity of >
< scientists; nor is it divine. The authority rests >
< with experiment. >
< --Lawrence M. Krauss >
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| Subject: | 4 Conductor shielded cable |
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Rogers, Bob J." <BRogers@fdic.gov>
You should be able to order the 4 conductor shielded cable from Vision
Microsystems. The wires are 22 awg. They supply it with their engine
management systems, so I know that they have it. The only question is
whether they will sell it as a separate item. Here is a contact web
site. http://www.visionmicrosystems.com/contacts/contacts_index.html
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Paul
McAllister
Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2006 4:34 PM
Subject: AeroElectric-List: 4 Conductor shielded cable
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Paul McAllister"
<paul.mcallister@qia.net>
Hi all,
I am looking for a source of 4 conductor shielded cable. The inner
conductors need to be around 22g. I have trolled through B&C's website
but
I couldn't see anything.
Thanks, Paul
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| Subject: | Re: 4 Conductor shielded cable |
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: D Wysong <hdwysong@gmail.com>
Steinair (www.steinair.com) has some. SA-444
D
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Paul McAllister wrote:
> --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Paul McAllister" <paul.mcallister@qia.net>
>
> Hi all,
>
> I am looking for a source of 4 conductor shielded cable. The inner
> conductors need to be around 22g. I have trolled through B&C's website but
> I couldn't see anything.
>
> Thanks, Paul
>
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| Subject: | Re: 4 Conductor shielded cable |
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: gert <gert.v@sbcglobal.net>
Hi Paul
try SteinAir, near bottom of page
*SA-444 **MIL-27500 Tefzel * /*AWG22 - 4* /Conductor Shielded Cable
http://www.steinair.com/wire.htm
Gert
Paul McAllister wrote:
>--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Paul McAllister" <paul.mcallister@qia.net>
>
>Hi all,
>
>I am looking for a source of 4 conductor shielded cable. The inner
>conductors need to be around 22g. I have trolled through B&C's website but
>I couldn't see anything.
>
>Thanks, Paul
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: 4 Conductor shielded cable |
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Ralph E. Capen" <recapen@earthlink.net>
I think I got some from wiremasters.....
How much do you need? I think I have some leftovers......
----- Original Message -----
From: "Paul McAllister" <paul.mcallister@qia.net>
Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2006 4:33 PM
Subject: AeroElectric-List: 4 Conductor shielded cable
> --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Paul McAllister"
> <paul.mcallister@qia.net>
>
> Hi all,
>
> I am looking for a source of 4 conductor shielded cable. The inner
> conductors need to be around 22g. I have trolled through B&C's website
> but
> I couldn't see anything.
>
> Thanks, Paul
>
>
>
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| Subject: | EGT/CHT thermocouple cable |
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Alan K. Adamson" <aadamson@highrf.com>
Mcmaster carr also carries these. Page 527 of the current website or search
for thermocouple wire. I didn't check to see who's prices were cheaper.
Alan
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Robert L.
Nuckolls, III
Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2006 4:46 PM
Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: EGT/CHT thermocouple cable
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Robert L. Nuckolls, III"
--> <nuckollsr@cox.net>
At 03:29 PM 1/24/2006 -0600, you wrote:
>--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "John Tvedte"
>--> <JohnT@comp-sol.com>
>
>Does anyone know of a source for twisted pair stranded non sheathed J &
>K thermocouple cable (extension grade is fine)- with tefzel insulation?
>Also what is being used to provide connect/disconnect capability?
http://www.omega.com/pptst/EXGG_JX_WIRE.html
http://www.omega.com/pptst/EXGG_KX_WIRE.html
http://www.omega.com/pptst/GMP.html
Bob . . .
< What is so wonderful about scientific truth...is that >
< the authority which determines whether there can be >
< debate or not does not reside in some fraternity of >
< scientists; nor is it divine. The authority rests >
< with experiment. >
< --Lawrence M. Krauss >
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| Subject: | Re: EGT/CHT thermocouple cable |
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "William" <wschertz@ispwest.com>
McMaster Carr
Bill Schertz
KIS Cruiser # 4045
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Tvedte" <JohnT@comp-sol.com>
Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2006 3:29 PM
Subject: AeroElectric-List: EGT/CHT thermocouple cable
> --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "John Tvedte"
> <JohnT@comp-sol.com>
>
> Does anyone know of a source for twisted pair stranded non sheathed J &
> K thermocouple cable (extension grade is fine)- with tefzel insulation?
> Also what is being used to provide connect/disconnect capability?
>
> Thanks,
>
> John
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Pitot Heat Indicator Color? |
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Scott" <scott428@tds.net>
I seem to remember a post quite a while back (years?) that suggested that
"Pitot Heat" (switch or annunciator) color was covered by an FAR. What
color was specified and where is the reg?
Thanks-
Scott Fifield
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| Subject: | Re: 4 Conductor shielded cable |
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "John Schroeder" <jschroeder@perigee.net>
Paul -
Try www.steinair.com
If you need a fair amount of it and you have need of different sizes and
it adds up to their $50 minimum order, Wiremasters is by far the best
price for wire. Call 800 635-5342 and ask for Deb Sullivan.
Cheers,
John
On Tue, 24 Jan 2006 16:33:34 -0600, Paul McAllister
<paul.mcallister@qia.net> wrote:
> --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Paul McAllister"
> <paul.mcallister@qia.net>
>
> Hi all,
>
> I am looking for a source of 4 conductor shielded cable. The inner
> conductors need to be around 22g. I have trolled through B&C's website
> but
> I couldn't see anything.
>
> Thanks, Paul
>
>
--
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| Subject: | Re: Pitot Heat Indicator Color? |
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Eric M. Jones" <emjones@charter.net>
For transport category aircraft....
Sec. 25.1326 - Pitot heat indication systems.
If a flight instrument pitot heating system is installed, an indication system
must be provided to indicate to the flight crew when that pitot heating system
is not operating. The indication system must comply with the following requirements:
(a) The indication provided must incorporate an amber light that is in clear view
of a flight crewmember.
(b) The indication provided must be designed to alert the flight crew if either
of the following conditions exist:
(1) The pitot heating system is switched "off".
(2) The pitot heating system is switched "on" and any pitot tube heating element
is inoperative.
[Amdt. 25-43, 43 FR 10339, Mar. 13, 1978]
--------
Eric M. Jones
www.PerihelionDesign.com
113 Brentwood Drive
Southbridge, MA 01550
(508) 764-2072
emjones@charter.net
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=6610#6610
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| Subject: | Peak current handling of S604 gold "DB" style contacts |
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "James Foerster" <jmfpublic@comcast.net>
Bob, or anyone,
I'm wiring my engine compartment to the instrument panel with a CPC2 series
Amp connector to allow the panel to be removed from the plane and assembled
on the bench. One of the wire pairs from the engine compartment is the 5 amp
breaker switch to the field terminal on the BC20 alternator. I recall that Bob
has suggested a mean current draw of 4 amps max for the gold plated 0.040 DB
style pins and sockets, which have the part number S604 on the B&C site. Could
I use a pair of these to carry the current through the field circuit breaker
and switch? If the overvoltage crowbar on the LR-3 regulator shorts the field,
there will be a momentary current draw of much larger magnitude. The data
sheets for this series of breakers at 5 amps suggests 50 milliohms internal resistance,
and if I use 12 feet of 20 gauge wire, this will add 120 milliohms
to the circuit. I don't know the internal resistance of the crowbar. If set
to zero, this leaves 170 milliohms plus the contact resistance of two series pairs
of the pin and socket. I have not measured this resistance, but the Tyco
(Amp) site suggests 10 millohm maximum. After doing some reading, I find that
the CPC series with "size 20" pins and sockets is rated at a single circuit
of 8.34 amps continuous with a 30 degree C rise in temperature. The breaker will
open in 0.2 to 0.6 sec at 1000% load.
When the crowbar fires, the instantaneous current before heating is 16 volts/0.18
ohms, or 89 amps. The bimetal thermal breaker should raise its electrical
resistance much faster than the wiring because it is enclosed. I'm not sure.
The convenience of routing all wires through this one or two CPC connector set
is attractive, but I could run the wires through a grommet in the panel, directly
to the breaker. It is harder to take apart this way, but at this point,
I have convinced myself that the direct route to the Fast-On tab on the breaker
is the best way. Having spent several hours researching this, I thought I'd
share it with the list.
The two Tyco PDF documents of interest are: instruction sheet 408-7593 and 108-10024-3
on the web site.
Jim Foerster, J400, still wiring...
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| Subject: | RE: MD200-306 VOR/ILS Indicator |
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "DEAN PSIROPOULOS" <dean.psiropoulos@verizon.net>
Thanks for all the info on the MD200-306 VOR/ILS Indicator lighting. I got a
little confused looking at the pinouts on the connector and there wasn't any
elaboration about it in the rest of the manual. But I figured the answers
could be found on the list. Where would I be without it!
Dean Psiropoulos
RV-6A N197DM
Panel
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| Subject: | Avionics and essential Buss? |
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: <rparigor@suffolk.lib.ny.us>
Working on schametic for Europa Rotax 914.
2 Questions:
1) What is the benefit to installing a Avionics Buss master switch when
all the Avionics have a switch of their own?
2) What does and does not belongs on a Essential Buss?
Thx.
Ron Parigoris
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| Subject: | Rotax 914, run fuel pump with no battery? |
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: <rparigor@suffolk.lib.ny.us>
Studying Rotax 914 schematic, the main fuel pump is wired to the B+ of the
regulator.
It appears if you open the alternator output switch, they expect the
alternator could run the fuel pump with no battery in circuit???
They do have a 22000mF capacitor from B+ to ground.
OK another question comes to mind. On Bobs Z-8 which uses a SD-8, if the
output relay was opened (not connected to battery or Buss) and you
connected a 3 amp fuel pump motor to the red output of the regulator would
it run and be happy for an emergency?
Called for on Z-8 is a 20000 to 50000mF capacitor connected to red output.
Thx.
Ron Parigoris
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| Subject: | Alternator output wire size |
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Mich=E8le_Delsol?= <michele.delsol@microsigma.fr>
Hi all =96 I have been following this list for some time mainly to educate
myself as to putting together the electrics on my RV8, now at the canoe
stage. I purchased Van=92s harness, figured it would give me a head start but
I find that I question some of the choices made, namely the size of the
Alternator output. Am planning on a 40amp alternator, aft mounted battery.
Vans has chosen #8 awg =96 if I look at BK=92s figure 8-4 on temp rise vs wire
size, I read 21 amps for a 10=B0C rise and 40amps for 35=B0C rise. Since I shall
be running a 40amp alternator I figure that 35=B0C is too much since the wire
will be bundled with others =96 I=92d be better of with a larger wire. If I put
a #6, temperature rise at 40amps is somewhere around 20=B0C.
My question to you guys who have been there : should I go for #8 or # 6?
Thanks,
Mich=E8le
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| Subject: | "Flicker Filter" for low fuel warning float switches? |
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Mich=E8le_Delsol?= <michele.delsol@microsigma.fr>
You might want to look at the AE fuel guardian at www.aircraftextras.com.
I installed one in each tank of my RV8 - not flying yet.
Michele
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
Fiveonepw@aol.com
Sent: lundi 23 janvier 2006 15:33
Subject: Re: AeroElectric-List: "Flicker Filter" for low fuel warning float
switches?
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Fiveonepw@aol.com
In a message dated 1/23/06 12:03:50 AM Central Standard Time,
nuckollsr@cox.net writes:
> I have hardware in hand that can be programmed to accomplish
> this task. We can watch for switch behavior to exhibit
> some characteristic like "switch closed more than 50% of the time
> over a 1 minute period" before the warning light is latched
> on. Given the flexibility of software, we can probably address
> any other low-fuel trip protocol. Does anyone have a need for
> this capability?
>>>>>
I used a couple of Altronix 6062 timer boards suggested by John P. Marzluf
several years ago- they perform fine, but your solution is likely a more
elegant
way to accomplish this.
Here's a message from archives:
http://www.matronics.com/searching/getmsg_script.cgi?INDEX=17746345?KEYS=out
back?LISTNAME=AeroElectric?HITNUMBER=84?SERIAL=0627595069?SHOWBUTTONS=YES
and my implementation of them:
http://websites.expercraft.com/n51pw/index.php?q=log_entry&log_id=5003
They are the blue boards on the tray.
Would like to see what ya got in mind, Bob- probably something about the
size
of a postage stamp, no doubt...
Mark Phillips
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| Subject: | 3 conductor AWG18 cable |
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Mich=E8le_Delsol?= <michele.delsol@microsigma.fr>
I am looking for 3 conductor AWG18 cable to hook up the strobe lights.
Steinair does not have it =96 does any one have a thought on a source for
this?
Thanks,
Michele
RV8 fuselage
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| Subject: | 3 conductor AWG18 cable |
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Bruce Gray" <Bruce@glasair.org>
Wheelen Install kit.
Bruce
www.glasair.org
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Michle
Delsol
Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2006 2:25 AM
Subject: AeroElectric-List: 3 conductor AWG18 cable
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Mich=E8le_Delsol?<michele.delsol@microsigma.fr>
I am looking for 3 conductor AWG18 cable to hook up the strobe lights.
Steinair does not have it =96 does any one have a thought on a source for
this?
Thanks,
Michele
RV8 fuselage
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