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1. 04:15 AM - Re: Deer Strike Incident (rd2@evenlink.com)
2. 04:23 AM - GPS power adaptor cord (The Minearts)
3. 04:37 AM - Re: GPS power adaptor cord (BobsV35B@aol.com)
4. 04:43 AM - Re: Downside to powering headsets with ships power? (Mike)
5. 12:47 PM - the physics behind Rotax ignition switch ratings (D Wysong)
6. 02:49 PM - Re: GPS power adaptor cord (Speed 3 Guy)
7. 07:23 PM - Re: Plug for Turn & Bank (James Beeghly)
8. 07:51 PM - Re: Plug for Turn & Bank (Robert L. Nuckolls, III)
9. 10:26 PM - Iron (Bob Unternaehrer)
10. 10:27 PM - Z-13/8 some questions ()
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Subject: | Re: Deer Strike Incident |
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: rd2@evenlink.com
Thanks for sharing this, OC.
Rumen
do not archive
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(received from bakerocb@cox.net; Date: 06:37 PM 1/30/2006
-0500)
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: <bakerocb@cox.net>
1/30/2006
Hello Fellow Pilots, To expand on the subject of striking animal objects.
A few years back......................
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Subject: | GPS power adaptor cord |
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "The Minearts" <smineart@mahaska.org>
I got a cig lighter adaptor cord for my Garmin handheld, and was thinking of eliminating
the cigar-lighter socket and plug. I see that there are 4 connectors
in the gps end. Without dissecting the cord, what are the four wires for?
Steve Mineart, Zenith CH601
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Subject: | Re: GPS power adaptor cord |
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: BobsV35B@aol.com
Good Morning Steve,
Two are for power. One ground and one feed.
The other two are for data transfer. My recollection is that they are
crossed, that is, the power feed A+ is opposite the Ground, etc. For my Garmin
295, the pin out directions are in the addendum section of the manual. What
Garmin do you have?
Happy Skies,
Old Bob
AKA
Bob Siegfried
Ancient Aviator
Stearman N3977A
Brookeridge Air Park LL22
Downers Grove, IL 60516
630 985-8503
In a message dated 1/31/2006 6:25:20 A.M. Central Standard Time,
smineart@mahaska.org writes:
I got a cig lighter adaptor cord for my Garmin handheld, and was thinking of
eliminating the cigar-lighter socket and plug. I see that there are 4
connectors in the gps end. Without dissecting the cord, what are the four wires
for?
Steve Mineart, Zenith CH601
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Subject: | Downside to powering headsets with ships power? |
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Mike" <mlas@cox.net>
No, not really. The only draw back is if the passive (power off, not
active) noise canceling of the headset is poor like the Bose X in which
case you have very little effect from the headset without power for the
active system. If the headset is able to control the background noise
with the power off, then that is what will happen if you should lose
power to your headset.
Mike
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From: owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
rparigor@SUFFOLK.LIB.NY.US
Sent: Monday, January 30, 2006 8:43 AM
Subject: AeroElectric-List: Downside to powering headsets with ships
power?
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: <rparigor@suffolk.lib.ny.us>
I have 2 Lightspeed headsets will be using on our Europa.
Is there any downside using regulated ships power to run them?
Thx.
Sincerely
Ron Parigoris
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1/16/2006
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1/16/2006
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Subject: | the physics behind Rotax ignition switch ratings |
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: D Wysong <hdwysong@gmail.com>
The Rotax 914 manual calls for using ignition "kill" switches rated for
a minimum switching voltage of 250 V and a minimum switching current of
0.5 A. I've convinced myself that the Carling switches we have (from
B&C) are suitable after reading Bob's "Switch Rating" article. However,
I'm curious about the physics...
Is there really 250 V built up in that dual CDI just waiting for a path
to ground?
I assume that there is resistance in series to limit the current to 0.5
A when the ignition system is shorted. Would more resistance in series
with the "kill" switch act to increase the time constant of the shorted
ignition circuit (assuming it looks like an RC circuit) thus leading to
a longer "bleed" of energy from the CDI capacitors... and perhaps a
delayed shutdown?
Can anyone describe a "typical" time history of voltage and current
across the switch contacts for a "kill" event?
Thanks for entertaining such random thoughts!
D
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Subject: | GPS power adaptor cord |
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Speed 3 Guy" <speed3guy@comcast.net>
I think all Garmin cords are the same. From my 176 manual...Red:8-35 VDC,
Black: Ground, Brown: Data Out, White: Data In.
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From: owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of The
Minearts
Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2006 5:21 AM
Subject: AeroElectric-List: GPS power adaptor cord
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "The Minearts"
--> <smineart@mahaska.org>
I got a cig lighter adaptor cord for my Garmin handheld, and was thinking of
eliminating the cigar-lighter socket and plug. I see that there are 4
connectors in the gps end. Without dissecting the cord, what are the four
wires for?
Steve Mineart, Zenith CH601
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Subject: | Re: Plug for Turn & Bank |
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: James Beeghly <jbeeghly@earthlink.net>
Lynn or Paul,
I have a related question: I picked up one of these Cannon plugs at
the Osh Kosh fly market. Now I need to figure out what goes to what.
My particular used Turn and Bank was made by Precision Aero
Instruments, but my guess is that a three pin hook-up must be close to
universal?
Looking in to the plug on the back of the instrument there is a "key"
at about 11:00 to orient the plug with pins at about 2:00, 5:00 and
9:00. I'm guessing one of these pins is ground and one is 12 volt +?
Would the third be for a light, if present?
Jim Beeghly
<--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Lynn Riggs
<riggs_la@yahoo.com>
<Try Aircraft Spruce part # 10-00789 Cannon Plu MS3106A-10SL-3S and
<part # 10-00959
<Cable Clamp MS3057-4A. That is what I used.
<<Paul McAllister <paul.mcallister@qia.net> wrote: -->
<<AeroElectric-List message
<<posted by: "Paul McAllister"
<<Hi all,
<< Could someone point me towards a surce for a 3 pin plug for a Turn
<< & Bank.
<< It appears to be a fairly standard fitting, this particular
<< instruments is
<< a Unites Instruments.
<< Thanks, Paul
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Lynn or Paul,
I have a related question: I picked up one of these Cannon plugs at the Osh Kosh
fly market. Now I need to figure out what goes to what. My particular used Turn
and Bank was made by Precision Aero Instruments, but my guess is that a three
pin hook-up must be close to universal?
Looking in to the plug on the back of the instrument there is a "key" at about
11:00 to orient the plug with pins at about 2:00, 5:00 and 9:00. I'm guessing
one of these pins is ground and one is 12 volt +? Would the third be for a light,
if present?
Jim Beeghly
-- AeroElectric-List message posted by: Lynn Riggs riggs_la@yahoo.com
Try Aircraft Spruce part # 10-00789 Cannon Plu MS3106A-10SL-3S and part # 10-00959
Cable Clamp MS3057-4A. That is what I used.
Paul McAllister paul.mcallister@qia.net wrote: -- AeroElectric-List message
posted by: "Paul McAllister"
Hi all,
Could someone point me towards a surce for a 3 pin plug for a Turn Bank.
It appears to be a fairly standard fitting, this particular
instruments is
a Unites Instruments.
Thanks, Paul
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Subject: | Re: Plug for Turn & Bank |
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Robert L. Nuckolls, III" <nuckollsr@cox.net>
At 09:18 PM 1/31/2006 -0600, you wrote:
>--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: James Beeghly
><jbeeghly@earthlink.net>
>
>Lynn or Paul,
>
>I have a related question: I picked up one of these Cannon plugs at
>the Osh Kosh fly market. Now I need to figure out what goes to what.
>My particular used Turn and Bank was made by Precision Aero
>Instruments, but my guess is that a three pin hook-up must be close to
>universal?
>
>Looking in to the plug on the back of the instrument there is a "key"
>at about 11:00 to orient the plug with pins at about 2:00, 5:00 and
>9:00. I'm guessing one of these pins is ground and one is 12 volt +?
>Would the third be for a light, if present?
>
>Jim Beeghly
Here's a view looking into the pin face of a male
connector (on the back of the instrument).
http://www.aeroelectric.com/Pictures/Connectors/MS3102E10SL3P.jpg
Last one I hooked up 25 years ago had pin A was (+) and B was
ground. Pin C was not used. This jives with data presented at:
http://www.wingsandwheels.com/page22.htm
down near the bottom of the page.
Bob . . .
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--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Bob Unternaehrer" <shilocom@mcmsys.com>
Any body had any experiences, good or bad with these cordless soldering irons.
Will they generate enough heat to solder wires, or mainly for PC boards etc.
bob U.
Cold Heat Cordless Soldering Iron
NOW: $16.99
91298-1VGA
Blue Skies
Bob Unternaehrer
shilocom@mcmsys.com
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Subject: | Z-13/8 some questions |
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: <rparigor@suffolk.lib.ny.us>
I am trying to shoehorn my needs into a Z-13/8 and have some questions.
Our Europa has a Rotax 914 and want to use a ND alternator on the vacuum
pad as primary alternator with a LR3C regulator and use the internal
generator as Aux alternator. The battery will be between 12 and 18 amps
located aft of the motor and Main-Bus and E-Bus by 7 feet (~ 14 feet of
wire) run will be using #4 wire.
1) Will the LR3C be happy if I connect the #6 Bus to my Main Bus, or
should it really go closer to the battery?
2) Will the LR3C be happy if I connect the #3 OV sense wire to my Main
Bus, or should it really go closer to the battery?
3) Rotax install manual wants difference between terminal C of the
regulator and the battery to be less than .2V, is this achievable with 12
feet of wire and a max load of 30 amps? What would happen if more than .2V
difference?
4)Rotax Install manual states" never sever connection between terminal C
and +B of regulator e.g. by removal of fuse"
Z-16 which is designed for only use of internal Rotax generator looks like
it disconnects C and +B, Z-13/8 which uses a SD8 as a aux alternator only
makes or breaks the output of SD-8.
When using Rotax internal generator as Aux on Z-13/8 do I want to follow
Z-16 and sever, or follow Z-13/8 and leave C and +B connected and only
make and break output?
5) Rotax install manual recommends a 30 amp slow blow fuse on output of
regulator, is a 16AWG Fuselink as used in Z-16 equivalent to a 30 amp slow
blow fuse?
6) On Z-13/7 E-Bus has a 20 AWG Fuse-link,16AWG wire, switch and 7 amp
fuse:
Z-32 Heavy Duty E-Bus Feed bumps up wire to 14AWG, a 10 amp fuse and a
relay instead of a switch
a) For the 3 additional amp fuse, why did a relay replace switch?
b) Why was Fuse-link dropped?
Thx.
Sincerely
Ron Parigoris
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