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1. 04:37 AM - Re: Iron (RV Builder (Michael Sausen))
2. 05:02 AM - Airline style 2-pin 12v power outlet jacks... (Greg Campbell)
3. 06:44 AM - Re: Iron (Ernest Christley)
4. 07:23 AM - Re: Iron (jerb)
5. 08:57 AM - Re: AeroElectric-List Digest: 14 Msgs - 01/27/06 (John Markey)
6. 09:03 AM - Warning lights with "Push To Test" (Gerry Filby)
7. 10:11 AM - Re: Re: Iron (Richard Dudley)
8. 10:22 AM - Re: Re: Iron (Harley)
9. 11:16 AM - Re: OV Module (Ken)
10. 02:18 PM - Re: Re: Iron (John Schroeder)
11. 02:18 PM - Re: Warning lights with "Push To Test" (John Schroeder)
12. 04:59 PM - Re: GPS power adaptor cordGPS power adaptor cord (Dale Ensing)
13. 05:02 PM - Re: Warning lights with "Push To Test" (Vern Little)
14. 08:01 PM - Zaon Traffic System (Brinker)
15. 08:01 PM - Re: Re: AeroElectric-List Digest: 14 Msgs - 01/27/06 (Brinker)
16. 10:28 PM - Re: Zaon Traffic System (David Lloyd)
17. 11:36 PM - Official AeroElectric-List Usage Guidelines (dralle@matronics.com)
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--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "RV Builder (Michael Sausen)" <rvbuilder@sausen.net>
If it says Cold Heat, stay away! POS Heats by arcing a current through the piece,
when it actually works.
Michael Sausen
-10 #352 Fuselage
Do not archive
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bob Unternaehrer
Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2006 12:24 AM
Subject: AeroElectric-List: Iron
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Bob Unternaehrer"
--> <shilocom@mcmsys.com>
Any body had any experiences, good or bad with these cordless soldering irons.
Will they generate enough heat to solder wires, or mainly for PC boards etc.
bob U.
Cold Heat Cordless Soldering Iron
NOW: $16.99
91298-1VGA
Blue Skies
Bob Unternaehrer
shilocom@mcmsys.com
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| Subject: | Airline style 2-pin 12v power outlet jacks... |
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Greg Campbell <gregcampbellusa@gmail.com>
I have a supply that plugs directly into a two pin
"power outlet" that they have on some airliners.
The inside has two little pins and a push button latch
to hold it more securely than a cigarette lighter.
I'd like to put one of those jacks into my homebuilt.
Does anybody know the part number or have a source for these?
Thanks,
Greg
REFERENCE: us.kensington.com/html/3877.html
<http://www.us.kensington.com/html/3877.html>
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--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Ernest Christley <echristley@nc.rr.com>
>Any body had any experiences, good or bad with these cordless soldering irons.
No, but I'd suggest one of the butane powered soldering irons.
Just as portable.
No batteries to run down while sitting in a drawer, where most soldering
irons spend the VAST majority of their time.
Doesn't cool quite as fast, but still really fast. It'll be cool and
ready to stow away before you can get the cover screwed back onto the
electo-gizmo that you were working on.
Can be used as a lighter, to put heat on shrink tubing, for instance.
The cordless iron will never light your barbecue grill.
Can be used to punch holes in fabric before rib tying.
Can be used to solder lugs onto battery cable (Go to one of Bob's
seminars. He'll demonstrate. Bring your battery cable and you might
end up with a free lug 8*) I was looking at those cordless irons until
I saw Bob demonstrate the butane irons abilities.
Cheap. The super deluxe versions are less than $10.
Every drugstore on Earth has the refill cans of butane for about $5.
Having limited space to store and limited time to maintain tools, I like
each to be as versatile as possible. The little butane soldering irons
are a clear winner.
--
,|"|"|, Ernest Christley |
----===<{{(oQo)}}>===---- Dyke Delta Builder |
o| d |o www.ernest.isa-geek.org |
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--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: jerb <ulflyer@verizon.net>
Can't say I've used one but watching the TV ad's it looks like your
going to get cold solder joints. For soldering a wire together or on
to something, it may work, but I don't think it would work well for
anything electronic. Kind of like those strap wrenches, they look
good but when you come to use them you find they stretch since the
straps do not have any strengthening web material. So just when you
get to the point of getting enough pressure applied to turn
something you find your self bottomed out against the part your
trying to turn. Lowe's sells one in their water filter area that's
much better and Sears has metal handle unit in their tool department.
jerb
At 12:23 AM 2/1/2006, you wrote:
>--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Bob Unternaehrer"
><shilocom@mcmsys.com>
>
>Any body had any experiences, good or bad with these cordless
>soldering irons. Will they generate enough heat to solder wires, or
>mainly for PC boards etc. bob U.
>
>Cold Heat Cordless Soldering Iron
>NOW: $16.99
>91298-1VGA
>
>Blue Skies
>Bob Unternaehrer
>shilocom@mcmsys.com
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: AeroElectric-List Digest: 14 Msgs - 01/27/06 |
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: John Markey <markeypilot@yahoo.com>
Rich,
I flew a Vari-EZ with Kuntzelman strobes. They worked great and were the original
strobes when the FAA inspector signed the plane off for nighttime VFR. The
units are steamlined and can be mounted on a flat surface or on curved surfaces.
The lenses are clear, but I have seen folks color red one of the two units.
I put a new set on my Glasair this spring - one on top behind the canopy and
one on bottom behind the wing. I asked several pilots for feedback on visibility
of the plane, both on the ground, in the pattern when viewed from the ground,
and air-to-air en route and in the pattern. All comments were favorable. This
is in distinct contrast to the negative feedback I received with the wing tip
units, which are recessed on the Glasair.
I have had good service getting a new bulb - I banged it hard on the Vari-EZ
while doing other maintenance work - oops. For the new units, the lady was very
friendly and threw in enough cabling so that I wouldn't have to make any splices.
I do pick up a bit of strobe signature over the LightSpeed 20's when the engine
is off and things are real quiet in the cockpit. Under normal ops, I can't
hear the strobes. NOTE: This soft noise was present with the original Whelans
still in the wing tip units, so I cannot point to the new Kuntzelman strobes as
generating any noise.
John Markey
Glasair II
http://www.kestrobes.com/
________________________________________
Time: 11:11:44 AM PST US
From: Richard Hughes
Subject: AeroElectric-List: Automotive Strobes & LED replacement bulbs
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Richard Hughes
Greetings,
I am asking for a friend who is nearing completion of
his airplane.
Strobe sets cost $900
Thee police cares in the Long Island New York area
have strobes in their marker lights.
Is anyone familiar with them?
Any possibility that they could be used in out
aircraft?
And likewise with the automotive LED replacement
bulbs?
-Rich
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| Subject: | Warning lights with "Push To Test" |
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Gerry Filby <gerf@gerf.com>
In the trainer I flew there was a block of rectangular warning
lights that indicated things like canopy open, alternator fault
etc. You could depress the lense of the warning lamp to light
and thus test the bulbs. Does anyone know of a source of such
- preferrably compatible with B&C's LR-3 Alternator Controller
OV lamp feed.
Thx in advance for any suggestions...
__g__
==========================================================
Gerry Filby gerf@gerf.com
Tel: 415 203 9177
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--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Richard Dudley <rhdudley@att.net>
Hi Ernest,
Where are these butane irons avialable??
Regards,
Richard Dudley
-6A flying
Ernest Christley wrote:
>--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Ernest Christley <echristley@nc.rr.com>
>
>
>
>>Any body had any experiences, good or bad with these cordless soldering irons.
>>
>>
>
>No, but I'd suggest one of the butane powered soldering irons.
>
>Just as portable.
>No batteries to run down while sitting in a drawer, where most soldering
>irons spend the VAST majority of their time.
>Doesn't cool quite as fast, but still really fast. It'll be cool and
>ready to stow away before you can get the cover screwed back onto the
>electo-gizmo that you were working on.
>Can be used as a lighter, to put heat on shrink tubing, for instance.
>The cordless iron will never light your barbecue grill.
>Can be used to punch holes in fabric before rib tying.
>Can be used to solder lugs onto battery cable (Go to one of Bob's
>seminars. He'll demonstrate. Bring your battery cable and you might
>end up with a free lug 8*) I was looking at those cordless irons until
>I saw Bob demonstrate the butane irons abilities.
>Cheap. The super deluxe versions are less than $10.
>Every drugstore on Earth has the refill cans of butane for about $5.
>
>Having limited space to store and limited time to maintain tools, I like
>each to be as versatile as possible. The little butane soldering irons
>are a clear winner.
>
>
>
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--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Harley <harley@agelesswings.com>
Radio Shack, for one, Dick...
http://tinyurl.com/85cfj
I had one of these for several years where I worked...very convenient in
remote areas...best part was the little blow torch tip that came with
it...best thing for shrink tubing. Kinda wish I hadn't left it behind
when I retired....in fact, now that we've been talking about it, think
I'll stop over there this afternoon and get one again! Getting tired of
plugging in the army surplus one I use and wait for it to heat up (and
cool down when done). Nice set of tips with the government issue one,
though <G>
Harley Dixon
Richard Dudley wrote:
>--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Richard Dudley <rhdudley@att.net>
>
>Hi Ernest,
>Where are these butane irons avialable??
>
>Regards,
>
>Richard Dudley
>-6A flying
>
>Ernest Christley wrote:
>
>
>
>>--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Ernest Christley <echristley@nc.rr.com>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>Any body had any experiences, good or bad with these cordless soldering irons.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>No, but I'd suggest one of the butane powered soldering irons.
>>
>>Just as portable.
>>No batteries to run down while sitting in a drawer, where most soldering
>>irons spend the VAST majority of their time.
>>Doesn't cool quite as fast, but still really fast. It'll be cool and
>>ready to stow away before you can get the cover screwed back onto the
>>electo-gizmo that you were working on.
>>Can be used as a lighter, to put heat on shrink tubing, for instance.
>>The cordless iron will never light your barbecue grill.
>>Can be used to punch holes in fabric before rib tying.
>>Can be used to solder lugs onto battery cable (Go to one of Bob's
>>seminars. He'll demonstrate. Bring your battery cable and you might
>>end up with a free lug 8*) I was looking at those cordless irons until
>>I saw Bob demonstrate the butane irons abilities.
>>Cheap. The super deluxe versions are less than $10.
>>Every drugstore on Earth has the refill cans of butane for about $5.
>>
>>Having limited space to store and limited time to maintain tools, I like
>>each to be as versatile as possible. The little butane soldering irons
>>are a clear winner.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Ken <klehman@albedo.net>
Hi Bob
Below I believe the link below should be to rev E at:
http://www.aeroelectric.com/articles/Crowbar_OV_Protection//Crowbar_E.pdf
On page one I see you've revised R5 to 6.04K probably to reduce the
number of different parts. However on page 3 it is still shown as the
old 10K value.
On page 4, paragraph 2 refers to the 12 volt reference measured at (C).
However the diagram on page 3 now shows TWO C points and it shows them
as the revised added capacitors. It might be less confusing to designate
the capacitors in some other way and put point C back as designating the
reference voltage point.
thanks again
Ken
Robert L. Nuckolls, III wrote:
>--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Robert L. Nuckolls, III" <nuckollsr@cox.net>
>
>At 11:07 AM 1/23/2006 -0600, you wrote:
>
>
>
>>--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Robert L. Nuckolls, III"
>><nuckollsr@cox.net>
>>
>>At 07:41 AM 1/23/2006 -0800, you wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Ron" <rondefly@rtriano.com>
>>>
>>>Hi, Could someone please point me in the right direction on the parts needed
>>>for the OV Module, My question is on the Potentiometer R2, the parts list
>>>calls it out as
>>>
>>>3292W501, DigiKey has no such number. I am not electronically qualified to
>>>guess at what it is.
>>>
>>>
>> I'm glad you posted this note. The search phrase to find it in Digikey
>> is 3192W-501. I'm pleased that this error was called to my attention
>> because it highlights another more serious error on my part. The 3292
>>series
>> pots are unnecessarily expensive (15.00/ea!) for this task. I'm going to
>> change the call-out to a 3296W-501 for $2.70 each in single lots.
>>
>> Appreciate the heads-up on this!
>>
>>
>
>
> The drawing has been fixed and Rev D posted at:
>
>http://aeroelectric.com/articles/Crowbar_OV_Protection/Crowbar_D.pdf
>
> Bob . . .
>
>
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--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "John Schroeder" <jschroeder@perigee.net>
Harbor Freight has a couple models.
On Wed, 01 Feb 2006 13:06:31 -0500, Richard Dudley <rhdudley@att.net>
wrote:
> --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Richard Dudley
> <rhdudley@att.net>
>
> Hi Ernest,
> Where are these butane irons avialable??
>
> Regards,
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| Subject: | Re: Warning lights with "Push To Test" |
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "John Schroeder" <jschroeder@perigee.net>
Gerry -
NKK has a line of lamps that are LED's. I installed two B&C voltage
regulators (dual battery Z-14) and wired them to their own low voltage
lamp. They work great. There is no press-to-test feature, but you could
design a circuit to test them all at once. I did not feel that the
press-to-test feature is all that critical with LED's and their inherent
longevity. Also for the regulators, you will get a light as soon as you
turn the battery switch on for each circuit. If they do not come on, you
should not go anywhere until you know why this is so. Same for oil
pressure, canopy open. For boost high and low, we check for fuel pressure
before start and check the light then.
I have the annunciator circuit on a .pdf if you need it. The resistor
values for the LED's are a little different than the ones Bob shows in a
diagram he published. Check this for a view of the annunciator panel:
http://w1.lancair.net/pix/jschroeder-panel/Panel_Test_4
The low volts are off because we have number 2 battery on at about 13.1
volts and are checking the crossfeed function. Normally you would see the
external power light on during our full testing as well, and probably no
crossfeed light.
Cheers,
John Schroeder
Lancair ES - painting
> In the trainer I flew there was a block of rectangular warning
> lights that indicated things like canopy open, alternator fault
> etc. You could depress the lense of the warning lamp to light
> and thus test the bulbs. Does anyone know of a source of such
> - preferrably compatible with B&C's LR-3 Alternator Controller
> OV lamp feed.
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| Subject: | Re: GPS power adaptor cordGPS power adaptor cord |
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Dale Ensing" <densing@carolina.rr.com>
I was told by Garmin that the power cord for my 295 could not be used for the 296
because of the wires to charge the batteries in the 296.
Dale Ensing
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| Subject: | Re: Warning lights with "Push To Test" |
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Vern Little <rv-9a-online@telus.net>
Gerry, if you are happy with regular incandescent or LED lamps (like
John Schroeder's), and want a handy circuit to drive them, allow for
dimming and lamp test with an *external* pushbutton, look at the IL-4A
or IL-12A at www.vx-aviation.com
Thanks,
Vern Little
RV-9A
Gerry Filby wrote:
> --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Gerry Filby <gerf@gerf.com>
>
>
> In the trainer I flew there was a block of rectangular warning
> lights that indicated things like canopy open, alternator fault
> etc. You could depress the lense of the warning lamp to light
> and thus test the bulbs. Does anyone know of a source of such
> - preferrably compatible with B&C's LR-3 Alternator Controller
> OV lamp feed.
>
> Thx in advance for any suggestions...
>
> __g__
>
> ==========================================================
> Gerry Filby gerf@gerf.com
> Tel: 415 203 9177
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| Subject: | Zaon Traffic System |
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Brinker" <brinker@cox-internet.com>
Anyone fimiliar with the Zaon flight systems traffic avoidance system ?
Looks promising and has a RS232 output which may make it compatible for
showing traffic on the GRT. And from what I've read it will pick up traffic
pretty much anywhere in the USA.
Randy
Sorry on first post did'nt change subject
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| Subject: | Re: AeroElectric-List Digest: 14 Msgs - 01/27/06 |
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Brinker" <brinker@cox-internet.com>
Anyone fimiliar with the Zaon flight systems traffic avoidance system ?
Looks promising and has a RS232 output which may make it compatible for
showing traffic on a PFD. And from what I've read it will pick up traffic
pretty much anywhere in the USA.
Randy
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| Subject: | Re: Zaon Traffic System |
--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "David Lloyd" <skywagon@charter.net>
Randy,
Their XRX is the newest of the model line and can also detect 8 regions or
sectors around you to give some idea of where the target is in angular
relation to you. I just received this unit as an upgrade from the VRX and
have not installed nor operated yet.
D
----- Original Message -----
From: "Brinker" <brinker@cox-internet.com>
Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2006 7:57 PM
Subject: AeroElectric-List: Zaon Traffic System
> --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Brinker"
> <brinker@cox-internet.com>
>
> Anyone fimiliar with the Zaon flight systems traffic avoidance system ?
> Looks promising and has a RS232 output which may make it compatible for
> showing traffic on the GRT. And from what I've read it will pick up
> traffic
> pretty much anywhere in the USA.
>
> Randy
>
> Sorry on first post did'nt change subject
>
>
>
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